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DAIWA ALPHAS AIR VS SHIMANO SCORPION BFS! TOE TO TOE ULTRA LIGHT LURE DISTANCE CAST BATTLE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- The underrated Daiwa Alphas Air gets called out by Shimano's equally underrated Scorpion BFS to see who casts ultralight lures the farthest against the measuring wheel!
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Lets be clear, from my testing of the Revo LTX, the Revo ALF BF7 will dust both of these reels!
Would like to see how far behind the DIY style spools for other reels compare to these primary BFS reels. My 1016 spool (used in a Zillion SV TW) from Aliexpress weighed 8 grams WITH bearing and so far casts great with 8lb Sufix 832 and 7lb leader. Don't fish as many cranks, but it will bomb a 3" Easy Shiner w/ 1/8oz head and a 1/16oz head w/ Bobbby Garland Baby Shad casts pretty well (with Tsurinoya Proflex 2 UL 6'3" rod).
Measure out some casts and compare with my results. That rod is only 2 inches shorter than the Corzza I was using.
Up to six commercials? Too many for me.
G'dat the reel test how much line can them reels hold please let men know?
@@frankleaney6267 adblock plus , we are in 2021 bro , lern to use the tools internet give you, if you watch from phone Rip :D
been waiting for this video because I'm planning on buying the scorpion bfs LETS GO!!
Just ordered mine today. 🤪
I’m glad I didn’t sell my scorpion. And I plan on getting a BF7 soon
The ALC BF7 has really unforgiving breaks, so it takes quite some time to get accustomed to it. At least to me when I got to try one out. Phenomenal performance, but rather inexperienced anglers with blow it up a lot, period
Thanks for sharing how to setup the scorpion
i wrote down a ton of geeky notes so i can figure out what reel i need to get next lol! thx for the info :)
You will get more distance out of the Scorpion, but the Alphas will have less overrun issues. The Revo ALC BF7 will outcast them both but have more overrun issues than both
@@THEREELTEST geebus lol ton of more notes. i guess i gotta weigh the pros and cons now hmmmm
i had the scorpion bfs, i use the scropion for more heavy application like throwing 1/8 oz to 1/4 oz lure
@@leepao6302 sweet! My goal is to throw 1/16, if i can get to 1/32 short range that'll be still good. just using it for small stream trout fishing like folks in japan! distance usually aren't far, but for 1/8th oz stuff i would have the distance as portrayed in this video! thx for sharing your experience!
@@rawrfishing maybe you might know this already, but to get the best experience throw that size weight, just use 2-4 mono or fluro and for braid 5-10 lb test, but usually i leader roughly about 1-2 foot long of mono or fluro and to then the rest is 8 lb test briad for my main line to max my line capacity
Looks good. I did record some casting footage of the BF7 + UL king with trout magnets. I'm going to save that footage, and make a video sometime later this year, after I get some some fish catches with it. It was still a bit tricky casting that light bait. I was glad to pick up the xf50 and easily throw some heavier things, like homemade inline spinners and spinner baits ranging from 2-3.5 grams. I ended up taking some line off my xf50 with the 10 pound braid. I think it casts a lot smoother now. I built 2 more tiny homemade spinner baits the other night after losing one in a tree, the same night I recorded the footage. Hate when that shit happens, damn hungry trees.
Awesome dude! cant wait to see the footage. I
@@THEREELTEST in the footage I don't exactly have precise measurements on the casts. Maybe I'll make some more footage with measurements, and fish catches. I'l slap all that together in due time. It definately does better than the xf50 hands down.
Strong work as always. No one gets the good info like u do out.. ur alright.
What are the other 3 bfs reels?
Revo LTX BF8 vs Daiwa SS Air vs Aldebaran BFS vs secret reel lol
THE REEL TEST hmm..I’m going with that xr50
Good guess but no. You will have to wait and find out
Nice Video Thanks for that, I own several of both of them =) . And I really like them !
I own and use several of both reels and it matches exactly what I see by myself. The Scorpion casts a little bit more far as the alphas. Thanks a lot for that Video , I really like all your vids =)
Thanks brother! nice to see someone that actually has experience with both reels :)
@@THEREELTEST thanks for your reply. Yes I am very interested in Baitcast Reels and own lots n lots of Shimano Reels since the old 51e Curado and lots of Daiwa and Megabass Reels. Bait Finess Reels in my collection are Scorpion BFS, Aldebaran 51MG7 , Aldebaran BFS XG , Aldebaran BFS ltd. Alphas Air , Megabass PX68 Hedgehog Custome and a Calcutta Conquest BFS . Yeah thats all my bfs reels.
this gonna be good
I was surprised of the outcome. I have both and always seem to reach for the alphas just because the air brake makes it a lot easier to skip. I have noticed that these sv reels feel restricted when casting more so on my ss sv103.
Tks for sharing
It will be great if u can show the results with other tested reels too. Even if they were not tested on the same day, or might not be on the same rod too. But it would still be nice as a general references. Using a same rod, same lures and same line to test those reels might surprise u even not in the same day
That will be another video
I love my scorpion bfs! But my aldebaran bfs smokes it 😍
watch for a future aldebaran bfs shootout video vs revo ltx and ss air
Hi, my name is Massimiliano Martini and I write from Italy. I have a Majort Kraft casting bait mod. Fax-B642UL, with g-1-5 launch power. I would like to know from you that you are an expert, which coil would fit to my rod. I have seen your demonstration with Daiwa Alpha air, the Shimano Aldebaran BFS or the XG variant, the ABU Garcia Revo MGX and also the Shimano Scorpion BFS or the XG variant. I can't decide. Can you help me ? I thank you in advance. Best regards Massimiliano Martini
Hey bro you should do a steez a vs metanium mgl. In a crisis here lol
Will you do a 1/8 ounce battle with the aldebaran mgl? The weird thing about the aldebaran mgl 50 is on Shimano’s website it says it has 65 yard capacity of 12 lb while on japan lure shop the 30 size has the 65 meters of 12lb capacity. IDK if the aldebaran mgl 50 is just the the 30 with a letter change or a spool change. I would need to see a aldebaran mgl 50 in person to really tell as online sources seem inaccurate.
The reason I’m asking is because for my spinning I decided to get a Tatula lt reel which the drag doesn’t seem to work properly. A example is when the reel is under pressure from a fish I can increase the drag, but not lower unless there is no tension then the drag a I lowered comes into play. This will probably screw my over at some point (especially when I fish the river near me) and I’d rather have a baitcaster then a spinning reel. So I’m thinking about getting the baitcaster like the aldebaran 30 mgl for the application. That I would cover otherwise with the spinning gear. Mainly small 4 inch swimbaits killer for smallies also small bitsy bug jigs are too a good lure.m
GrandFishing ask a nearby tackleshop about the problem!
You have to consider whether 12lb is with U.S diameter (0.30mm) or JDM (0.28mm)
Benjamin S I don’t have a local tackle shop near for probably 3-4 hours that has a aldebaran mgl 50.
Vire well if it is a 50 size it should have the same line capacity of the old aldebaran.
What rod are you using. You said you have two, sounds like you like the rod?
6'5 Major Craft Corzza. I bought 2 for the purpose of testing bfs reels side by side
test abu 1500c / 2500c
any recommendations on were to purchase a scorpion bfs XG left for good price, availability, and shipping
Digitaka.com, good price and free shipping on reels.
digitaka will ultimately be the cheapest place with its free shipping
check ebay
@@THEREELTEST thanks you good sr
@@snubbebubbe thank you very much
I have Abu Garcia Revo LTX BF8...it's incredible...i cast 1g with it...;) (sorry for my english) :)
The body of Alphas Air seen more tough and its magnetic brake is easier to adjust while the texture of the scorpion bfs is so plastic feeling . However , I think the FTB system is much more maturity than the Daiwa's brake system (Magforce) for the bait finesse . So I do choose scorpion bfs . Besides the initial speed of scorpion for light lure is better than Alphas Air.
the Scorpion feels more solid than the Alphas
@@THEREELTEST o...really , so the bad thing of scorpion is its magnetic brake , it is difficult to push
theres nothing bad about the Scorpion.
@@THEREELTEST o..ya, I do make a right choose , already order one 😂, thank you
cue the fanboys "yeah but" comments...
XF-50 is best for the money all the way^)
got 2 of em, and love em
Can you test the tatula ct with diy spoon ? I see there are many people use it for bait finnese in China
@@stevekwong3993 I have a tatula ct and a diy spool. It works nicely, but you have cast it more gentle, or you'll blow up the spool. The break system wasn't meant for handling light spools, casting light lures.
@@sgtpavlov Thanks .
@@sgtpavlov Btw , what is the lightest grams of lure you can cast with the diy spoon ?
Daiwa’s braking system isn’t suited well for baitfinesse! Now, nothing wrong with daiwa’s bfs reels (their control is better) but I rather go with castlength for my needs. I think daiwa can do better, they just need to create a better braking system!
Talking a few feet, probably need to try both and find out which "fishes" best. I have bought more Shimano's over the years, they are just "different". For sure not better and for sure not worse. That free casting THE REEL TEST speaks of can wreck some people's casting, that is why some love the SV/AIR brake style braking systems. I have Daiwa's where I wish I had Shimano's for distance, and I am primarily a Daiwa reel user.
Yup for BFS stuff I am lean towards range with micro lure.
Edit: but for saltwater, I prefer non ported spool.
They already have good braking system - Magforce 3D.
My best BFS reel is a T3 MX (or T3 Balistic in USDM) with custom spool weight 6.7g (or 5.6g without bearing)
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The braking system is awesome and stable.
I also owned a ALC-BF7 (also with custom spool), but the braking system is not quite stable, especially in windy situation
That daiwa alphas air is it a custom reel because the other one is green alphas air custom that’s the color green
Have you ever tested a steez? Would like to see the results before I buy one.
Nope but I said 2019 would be the year lol.. I still see the Steez as not worth $500, especially since the Metanium DC is now sold officially here for that same price.
Have you tested a zillion?
what is Zion?
fancy naming of plastic
Doesn't matter who gets butt hurt.. He is still biased toward Shimano.. realistically distance is pointless in BFS accuracy is where it's at..Shimano and Daiwa are head and shoulders better than all other reel companies..not only are they good reliable reels there also durable .. Lew's and Abu after one season of hard fishing and there noticeable beat up and in need of servicing
realistically you have no clue what you are talking about. distance is key when finesse fishing, especially clear waters for spooky fish. and calling me biased towards Shimano is like a fanboy getting mad and calling someone else a fanboy
Only when you put the reel to some real fishing test. Like fishing for big salmons or Steelheads, fish that peel out drag and run for awhile, then you will see which reel is stronger in term of drag consistency, power and rigidity. If casting alone then maybe Shimano is a distance winner, what about all other aspects of the reel? Like ease of casting and cast control break setting? Drag and rigidity, strong frame and no play in handle. You guys can all love shimano, but Daiwa made in Japan reels are for me.
Lol "ease of casting" is fanboy talk for slow spool and shorter distance. Thats why its so fun to trigger you fanboys, you make up all sorts of stupid categories trying to convince people that your favorite brand is better lol
@@SamNguyenV
You don't need strong drag and rigidity for BFS, the spool are not design for it. If it has strong drag you'll get bended spool.
@@SamNguyenV
Also for big salmon you should use deeper spool or fly reel. BFS and even 500 size spinning are not design for big fish
Which line did u use ?
4lb mono
While you guys wasting your times watching these delusional videos. Someone else is working hard making money to buy a Daiwa Steez.
Sounds like your tampon needs changing lol
Lol, I still hate Shimano fan boy.