2013 Ford Focus SE Hatch Review, Walkaround, Start Up, Test Drive

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    Specification Update The SE is available with MFT, Sony Audio System, NAV, and dual zone auto climate control, it's a $1495 single option that includes all four. The trim levels we specified only applies to the hatchback, the sedan is still available as the entry level S model. We are unsure as to whether the 2012 SEL's 4 auto up/down windows and soft touch door panels are included in that $1495 option. A Focus Electric is also new for 2013.
    "The well-rounded, well-built 2013 Ford Focus stands as one of the top choices in an increasingly competitive segment."
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  • @Hella_Bored1
    @Hella_Bored1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got a 2013 ford focus titanium hatchback for my first car, i love it, its a beautiful car and feels fast, and overall is a good reliable car

  • @alecsandrhopp3512
    @alecsandrhopp3512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've had my 2014 SE up to 80,000 miles now, no transmission problems, worked on it a bit adding my own stuff, honestly the car is amazing and reliable don't know about all of you.

    • @stephenmccabe9507
      @stephenmccabe9507 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a 2014 SE also over 50k now with NONE of these transmission problems others whine about...either they revised it the next model year (as they should have), I'm one of the lucky few, or these idiots don't know how to properly drive a DCT and were putting intense unecessary wear on their clutches

    • @Martingamgs
      @Martingamgs ปีที่แล้ว

      I have 2018 with 100k miles I driver a lot I use for Uber no issues

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The shutter/lag when pulling away is normal. It's the characteristic of the Power Shift transmission which is not a traditional automatic with a torque converter. Instead, think of it as a manual with 2 clutches that shift automatically for you. It's designed to give you quicker shifts and it puts less drag on the engine vs a regular automatic.

  • @LukeO-1234
    @LukeO-1234 9 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    If you say sel one more time lol

  • @rafa.gastro
    @rafa.gastro 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your reviews because you analyze intermediate versions of cars. Most of the times the reviews in TH-cam are about the top of the equipment.

  • @AntonGumiran
    @AntonGumiran 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how you review cars! It's more of you talking to your viewers rather than selling a car to a customer

  • @Skins4Life1989
    @Skins4Life1989 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought this car in May with the 5 speed transmission. I love it, consistently get 35-38 mpg and the car is very fun to drive for a 2.0 4 cyl. I'm glad i bought it, plan to keep it for a long time.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, that combination is available

  • @theredline
    @theredline  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, very nice eye catching that detail, looks like they just took out the label for the increments of 10, they are still there but just aren't labeled anymore

  • @Jake.Gentry
    @Jake.Gentry 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I drive this car for work and I have to say I'm impressed with the direct injection in this motor, u can feel the power and it responds quickly.

    • @crazycat862
      @crazycat862 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Add a throttle controller and you’ll have for fun

  • @bennet2366
    @bennet2366 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice video review ... i'm getting one next week

  • @sarahsitas
    @sarahsitas 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting this comment. I'm shopping for a 2013 Ford Focus SE Hatch and, after reading your post, I went back to the dealer to test it. They don't lie ENTIRELY flat in the SE hatch, but it's pretty dang close -- certainly closer than just laying them down on the seat cushion. Appreciate it!

  • @JorgeMoren0
    @JorgeMoren0 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i bought this same car in black and it feels so good, i really love the wheels and it behaves great in cornering

  • @RedRhinoMusic
    @RedRhinoMusic 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The back seats do fold down all the way flat, you have to lift up the seat part first and then fold them down.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We think the Powershift transmission has been improved greatly from the earlier 2012 models, however, we still prefer the manual, but the automatic is still better than the 4AT in the corolla, or the slow reacting 6AT in the cruze, it's just a transmission that you have to get used to.

  • @sideskraft
    @sideskraft 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review -- I like your comparison of the SE with the 201A and the SEL. I wonder how rough the ST rides compared to the SE -- I'll find out shortly after a test drive. I rented an SE for a 3000-mile/9-day trip and completely fell in love. Ford has done one heck of a job.

  • @BoschExxcel
    @BoschExxcel 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video!

  • @DaveXSU
    @DaveXSU 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really want an ST, hopefully you'll do a video on it sometime.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, it is limited to the Sedan only

  • @stargasm1000
    @stargasm1000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    rear disc brakes [ Customers "surprisingly' care about?? Hmm.... I'll never have a car with drum brakes EVER again!! This is because drum brakes don't stay adjusted and when they're out of adjustment, the front brakes get hotter and the rotors warp. Additionally, disc brakes stop better compared to drums. Drum brakes shouldn't even be offered on cars anymore.

  • @marylawson6060
    @marylawson6060 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have a 2000 Focus when they first came out. She has 90,689 miles. Not even broke in yet and can peel rubber if you know how. Looks brand new. Metallic Fort Knox Gold.

  • @SamPlayClown
    @SamPlayClown 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear @2theredline . Can you do an in depth and test dive review for the new 2014 civic si coupe? I test drove it and i must say it's a really fun car to toss around. In addition, honda have noticeable updates in the car that you might want to check out.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Car & Driver Data:
    Focus ST 0-60: 5.9 secs
    Civic Si: 6.5 secs

  • @emilsponga2081
    @emilsponga2081 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice job - again

  • @theredline
    @theredline  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    We agree, the upper trims get pricey but they have the tech to show for it. If you skip the upper trims and expensive options, the price is right where all its competitors fall.

  • @memphis407
    @memphis407 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get you. I went used simple because I could get more car than I could get new. I got my focus july 5 and love every minute of it. the EPA numbers are spot on. I am averaging 26mpg city right now and that is with my daily commute being low spends with allot of lights. Also allot of people complain about the dual clutch transmission but for me it is just fine.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ST rides a tad stiffer bc of the 18" rims but it's not punishing at all. If you have rid in a GTI both vehicles ride very similarly. The Speed3 has the most punishing ride of the 3 vehicles while the Civic Si has the softest ride.

  • @balistikmax
    @balistikmax 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your review videos, but I have yet to find a Ford Focus Titanium video.

  • @DominicA24
    @DominicA24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    got a used 2013 Ford Focus SE Hatchback in August of 2020, 18,000 miles and a great price. I love driving it.

    • @browneyez.
      @browneyez. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Found this car at 4990$ with 165000km do you think it's worth buying?

    • @stanleychen7466
      @stanleychen7466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any issue with the powershift transmission?

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was edmunds, their times are often slower than everyone else's.

  • @wsmiteh
    @wsmiteh 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I drove both back to back yesterday, and road/wind noise is significantly quieter in the focus. However, the exhaust is a bit louder, but does not drone, and is deeper and more pleasing to the ear. It drives tighter, and the interior is SIGNIFICANTLY better.

  • @SubieSean
    @SubieSean 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those wheels are a great upgrade.

  • @dudelivestrong
    @dudelivestrong 10 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I hated the look of the focus until this style came out.

  • @swedishvolvo3677
    @swedishvolvo3677 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a good way to put it. After driving a manually for my past two cars I don't ever want to go back to an autotragic.

  • @swedishvolvo3677
    @swedishvolvo3677 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ford has been on a winning streak since 2008. The Focus is great, do everyone well vehicle, fun yet functional.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    we have two up already

  • @MrWhitelightning73
    @MrWhitelightning73 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at these , also considering, cmax , and Mini Cooper clubman, any advice would be appreciated 😎

  • @Rosso488
    @Rosso488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What’s that deal with people saying that the DCT is a bad transmission? I’ve not had any of the problems I’ve been hearing about and my car was one of the first ones built. I love my eight year old 210k miles Focus SEL. Really the only problems I’ve had is the infotainment system and the recently recalled EVAP system that might stall the car if it’s low on gas.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both are great cars and offer their own strengths and weaknesses. The Civic does have a better reputation for reliability but the Focus offers more premium features and the hatchback body style. Both are fun to drive but the Ford is a bit quicker and quieter on the highway. As far as cost, the Civic is more expensive after you factor in the rebates Ford offers on the Focus.We'd have a hard time choosing ourselves ;)

  • @TonyGarcia-qh1qw
    @TonyGarcia-qh1qw 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please do a review for the 2015 Ford Focus Titanium Hatchback I'm really interested in ford titanium.

  • @jakegant9856
    @jakegant9856 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this car was very nice I am very disappointed with the soft touch thing there is not much...I hate to be picky but I wanted to know if you may be able to do a video on a Chrysler Pacifica maybe 2005 or up...if so...great thank you

  • @jbmop
    @jbmop 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sofyan, I didn't see leather seating listed under the 201 upgrade package when you showed us the car spec sheets on the window. I'm in Canada and I'm thinking of buying the 2013 focus se. This one here doesn't have leather!

  • @npggreat
    @npggreat 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Whats up?
    So far it is running very well and impressive gas millage, had some fun with manual shift it has pretty good acceleration, I am totally satisfied with this car :)

  • @ifixthings86
    @ifixthings86 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure someone has mentioned this, the seat do indeed fold flat in the back, you have to lift./flip the bottom part of the seat out of the way, then drop the back. BTW the truck is HUGE when you do this. I carried a go cart in the back of mine.

  • @trevorchurch5012
    @trevorchurch5012 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I bought a Ford Focus SE 2013. It is the worst car I have ever owned. I have the "transmission problem" package. It has been to the shop 4 times and the transmission still does not work correctly.

    • @gwwayner
      @gwwayner 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why I ordered one with a 5-speed manual. But really, the dealership should have it shifting properly with the latest software uploads.

    • @72twist
      @72twist 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just bought a 2014 Focus SE Hatchback w/Sport Package and its the best car I have ever owned. I always drive manuals so was unaware of the automatic issues. Automatic transmissions are rather dull and remove a lot of the fun of driving a car. Plus they are sophisticated and are prone to issues that can be costly to repair when the vehicle is out of warranty. Manual cars are actually very easy to drive and as I said can be a lot of fun. You should consider them when purchasing a new vehicle. Plus they can save you around $1000.

    • @kamryn7496
      @kamryn7496 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a 2015 focus with 117k an it shifts great

    • @mr300x
      @mr300x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine has the other type of wheels. And yes mine has the clutch problem feature in which has been fixed twice in my 3yrs of owning. Also had the fuel pump and tank issue. There was a valuable lesson learned and that was that I shouldve stuck with Chevy.

  • @robertmcdowell5904
    @robertmcdowell5904 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Had transmission shakes but it's covered under warranty. They replaced the seals at the dealer, no questions asked. It runs great.

    • @chrisl2090
      @chrisl2090 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert McDowell This sometimes fixes the issue. other people are having more issues with the double clutch pack. My car just got the updated seal and i have had no further issues. It only had 39k miles on it when it had the bad shudder at start. But Its good ford is Fixing this.

    • @1flynlow
      @1flynlow 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Chris Lambert are you talking about the auto transmission?

    • @chrisl2090
      @chrisl2090 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      1flynlow Yes I am.

  • @Scott125670
    @Scott125670 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm having the hardest time choosing between this and the new Dodge Dart. I drove them both on the weekend, I liked the feel of the steering wheel and interior better on the Focus, but I prefer the styling and customization options better on the Dart. They both drive the same to me. What do you guys think?

  • @slversrfr99
    @slversrfr99 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at purchasing a used car in about a year or so, looking at the Mazda 6 and the Focus, 2012/13 models; My question is, with the automatic issues the Focus has, is it a consistent problem or hit or miss? Reviews otherwise seem pretty positive aside from that...

  • @KooKookid520
    @KooKookid520 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I may be getting a 2008 Ford Focus SE Manual Trans car pretty soon, would you say it's a good car to learn to drive stick with? I don't know if you have driven it, but from the feel of the 2013 version, would you recommend it?

  • @MegaScreamingbanshee
    @MegaScreamingbanshee 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should get an ST. that'd be SICK! I love that model :D

  • @npggreat
    @npggreat 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man, I will try to find a road with less speed tracking cameras, I will let you know. Since it is not harmful for the engine I don't bother anymore because other than grinding sound the car ride very nice and fun.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, the Focus is still quieter than even the 2013 Civic

  • @rockout4006
    @rockout4006 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do a videos off a 2015 ford focus se

  • @f181234
    @f181234 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you guys do a focus electric

  • @sunxxl01
    @sunxxl01 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any big differences between the 2013 Focus Titanium and the new 2014 model?

  • @rafa.gastro
    @rafa.gastro 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Soyfan Bey. I am looking for a Focus 2013 but I´m a little bit concerned about the reliability of this vehicles. Do you know something about it?

  • @Sledgehammer1944
    @Sledgehammer1944 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what is the real difference between the 2012 SE and the 2013 SE? As I just bought the 2013 SE 2 days ago. Has the engine, transmission, or handling changed at all?

  • @ammonhanson4262
    @ammonhanson4262 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    are the transmission problems really as bad as people say? I want to get this car but am worry about the problem.

  • @Dankcatvacs
    @Dankcatvacs 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    how does the fiesta compare against the sonic
    and the focus against the cruze?
    in speed/accel and mpg?

  • @brandielyn21
    @brandielyn21 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    question - i was able to get my new hatchback race red 2013 for not too bad of a price (of course i have to finance) but i've recently noticed that i didn't notice when i test drove it was that it stutters or lags when i pull away from a complete stop did you notice that? Also, does it just go away or does it have to be looked at?

  • @klukash
    @klukash 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    did ford come back with with the se sport package for 2014 since i saw it on the build and prce on the website

  • @kevinszhere1
    @kevinszhere1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man I just bought the 2013 focus se after careful research and thanks to you. Now i need help. What does that button on my automatic se shifter do? It show a car on a hill when i click it and how do i turn on the wipers on the back of the car. Thanks

  • @zambruken
    @zambruken 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hermooosoo lo amo

  • @jimmytaylor5264
    @jimmytaylor5264 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey the price list on the car is that how you have them in the yard because thats a pretty great way of advertising the cars features with out having to tell people everything and compared to how cars are in yards here in Australia thats a hell of a lot easier to look at read.

  • @Cowarethegreatest
    @Cowarethegreatest 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love mine. It was the most bottom line and it is really comfortable and you cant beat the price:16987

  • @Drewbie85
    @Drewbie85 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has the reliability been better with the 2013 focus's with the dct?

  • @driftpig4510
    @driftpig4510 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So for 2013 you can get a focus se with MFT, leather, and a manual transmission all in one?

  • @memphis407
    @memphis407 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you remove the head rests? Also try taking a look at a used focus, I got my 2012 SEL with leather seats, fog lamps, dual zone climate control, parking sensors, moon roof and sweet 17 inch wheels for $17,000 at carmax. You can get a nice deal on a gently used Focus rather than loosing money buying new.

  • @faithgarry1691
    @faithgarry1691 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my 2014 focus in July of 2015 with 6,558 miles and by the time I had put 15,000 miles I had to take it in for horrible shuddering problems when driving at low speeds. It ended up needing a new clutch which was on back order for 8-10 weeks nationwide. However ever since getting it fixed it drives like a new car and Ford has extended the warranty on the transmissions since there have been so many issues. I would also keep in mind the car actually has a cvt transmission which causes some of the issues you hear about but all in all its a great car for the money which really is a ton of fun to drive

  • @Lovestospooge1987
    @Lovestospooge1987 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm averaging 34 mpg and love mine

  • @TheCantu7491
    @TheCantu7491 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, the only thing I would say is that the rear seats do fold flat. The seat bottoms lift up and the headrest can be
    removed to fold the seats flat, i'm considering getting another focus and this would have turned me off if it didn't do this

  • @importcarenthusiast
    @importcarenthusiast 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The SE now has the same center console as the Titanium (which I dont like), and it comes standard with the silver door handles. Fog lights are no longer standard on the SE, but alloys are.

  • @Agent6415
    @Agent6415 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does this compare to the new KIA Forte5?

  • @kevinszhere1
    @kevinszhere1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man imporatant question please get back to me. is 2013 focus quieter then the 2013 honda civic you drove?

  • @K9academyTo
    @K9academyTo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    would you rather have this or a honda fit, from a drivers perspective?

  • @bernardnewsome2250
    @bernardnewsome2250 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a 2012 Ford Focus titanium it had around 200,000 miles when I traded it I loved that car I regret selling it

  • @Kinderj1
    @Kinderj1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this car be comfortable for a 6'3 ft Tall person?

  • @tomcat13claws
    @tomcat13claws 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure that the rear seat doesn't flip up so that the seat lays flat when folded down? I thought all hatchback did this. Also, can you take off the rear headrests so they don't poke my back when they are down.

  • @sideskraft
    @sideskraft 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard that the spring (shorter) rates and shock valving on ST are stiffer as well.

  • @doraahn3888
    @doraahn3888 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello does anyone know why the screen in the center of focus 2013 stops working?

  • @brycec2162
    @brycec2162 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you get the spec for all these cars

  • @guytennant3030
    @guytennant3030 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My parents are thinking about getting me a 2014 focus hatch as a graduation gift. I really like the hatch version.

  • @trafficbabe
    @trafficbabe 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most helpful thank you. I want the ST ..but it isn't in my budget. I am a little intimidated by all the tech as far as ease of use while driving. It seems complicated. But Maybe an SE with the 201A upgrade is what I need!

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get the manual. I got the DCT automatic, with the same 201A package, as a sedan. The manual is quicker, shifts nice, and is a lot more fun. The DCT transmission still needs some work and fine tuning, even though its supposedly better than previous years.

  • @KenCarTechMeow
    @KenCarTechMeow 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The max speed limit in the USA is about 85mph. And in some states (like where I am) 65mph. City stop and go is usually 25-45mph, "b-roads" 45-60mph, and highways 45-85mph. Most gas (petrol) powered stuff here is lucky to do above 30mpg at 60mph. And I want to go 100 on highways! Where are you from, exactly?

  • @Dark0blivion
    @Dark0blivion 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your reviews. You speak at a nice pace and go over relevant details vs. spending 5 minutes testing something superficial, like 0-60 times, which other reviewers seem to suffer from. One question--with all other things being equal, which would you go for? A 2013 Civic (maybe EX) or a Ford Focus SE? They are very similar in price, and I've test drove them both and prefer the Ford. However, I still have the bias that Honda = more reliable. I'm torn. :(

  • @bmwmsport11
    @bmwmsport11 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of options avaliable on these cars. I don't mind one, it seems like a well rounded car. But I'd rather take a Mazda 3. Good video

  • @livinthedublife
    @livinthedublife 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think they will eventually offer the DCT on the Focus ST

  • @bennet2366
    @bennet2366 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm used to driving stick, and been driving for more than 20 years ... on my last 2 cars however, i've already opted for automatic transmission ... i agree that stick is more fun to drive and very responsive especially out on the highway, but in my case I live in Manila and traffic is almost always horrible during weekday rush hours - believe me you'll hate stick driving in these conditions

  • @PitcherExcavationLandscapeLLC
    @PitcherExcavationLandscapeLLC 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mum has a 2015 fusion se luxury package wich has my ford touch and heated and cooled leather seats along with all leather so it’s basically a platinum but with a 10k less price tag

  • @npggreat
    @npggreat 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought Focus with Sports package last week, so far I am satisfied with the car, but since last 2 days my cars is making a knocking sound when I try to pickup in first or second gear, it is with automatic transmission.
    Any idea what is the reason?
    The last answer I wanted to hear was first answer from dealer that "its normal" :/

  • @Drewbie85
    @Drewbie85 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    what kind of issues have you had so far? when you broke down I mean.

  • @AllUNeedMotors
    @AllUNeedMotors 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just rode in one today. The ride is great and quiet, but the back seat is a lil' small. I also found it weird that you can only lock/unlock the doors from the button in the middle.

  • @protestthisaccount
    @protestthisaccount 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rear seats actually do fold down flat (most people don't know this, even my dealer didn't know) have to pull the seat bottoms forward then the seats will fold flat. Depending on how far the front seats are back you might also have to remove the headrests for the rear seats. Cheers!

  • @Sk8ingCheese32
    @Sk8ingCheese32 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you switch between sport and drive?

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ST if course, it has 51 more hp than the Si and 100 more ft lbs of torque

  • @anthonylui
    @anthonylui 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you rate this car for city driving?

  • @BanzaiSushi
    @BanzaiSushi 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugh I'd have to go some place empty with no one around lol...are manuals the best?

  • @GrumpyFelo
    @GrumpyFelo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    no ST reviews yet?

  • @osama20111996
    @osama20111996 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @jakeman165
    @jakeman165 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    for some reason, i like the looks of the manual climate control better then the dual zone.....