Red Dragon: Movie VS Book What's The Difference
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- Follow Me on Instagram / bobphilipsofficial
If you're like me you love a good old fashion scare. And since it's the spooky season I figured to try something new. And being that Dr. Hannibal Lecter is one of my favorite movie characters. And My favorite Literary character. And My Favorite Villain I thought I can have some fun with this. Also I've been wanting to do a book vs movie comparison for a long time. Given that everyone knows about Silence Of The Lambs and there has been numerous videos on Silence Of The Lambs compared to the book I thought it would be more fun to take a look at the totally underrated and less appreciated adaptation of The first Thomas Harris novel to feature our favorite Cannibal with a PhD. Red Dragon. So sit back and enjoy Red Dragon movie vs book what's the difference.
Shout out to Amazing Thumbnail and graphic design work by My friend Greg. Follow him on twitter at @gregatthedoor
Also feel free to check out my top ten favorite movie character list by clicking the link below.
• UnPopular Opinion: Top...
All Pictures, video clips and audio are property of Universal Pictures, Imagine Corporation, Red Dragon Productions, De Laurentiis Entertainment Group, Orion Pictures, Strong Heart Productions, Google Imagines, I do not own the rights to this material. The use of this material is legally defendable under section 107 of the copyright act of 1976 allowances made for "fair use" for purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Wow, I though I was the only person on Earth who considered Red Dragon as good as Silence!
No there's a lot of us
I love Fiennes depiction of Dollarhyde. It was amazing and definitely left me with awe. He got me really obsessed with the Dollarhyde character and novel
Fiennes is an amazing actor. Any where from the Hurt Locker to Schindler's List and Harry Potter. He truly is amazing.
In my opinion. I thought I'd prefer Red Dragon to Silence of the lambs since I saw Red Dragon first. The Red Dragon is a better serial killer than Buffalo Bill. However the escape scene is absolutely amazing. That made me prefer silence of the lambs.
That is so true
The Red Dragon novel is one of few books that scares the crap out of me every time I read it.
its honestly one of my favorite books, and the best part is how Harris isn't trying to hard its just brilliant
I have yet to Read it i haven't been able to Find it. I will have to look online i don't use credit cards i will have to get a pre paid debit card most likely
@@jamesforsyth1701 did ya find/read it?
Yes. I would like the Manhunter- Red Dragon comparison
Manhunter vs book or Manhunter vs Red Dragon the movie?
Moreover the book hits home how Molly was right to hate Crawford. In the end, Will went along with it and it cost him damn near everything. I hate how Hollywood films refuse to give the protagonist any vulnerability, He just throws the letter in the sea and goes on with his life.
That's a good point I totally should have included
@@realbobphilips I enjoyed the video. I've seen the films a ton over the years but just finished the books for the first time. I honestly feel that the ending to this one, and also Hannibal, treat their main characters as mannequins compared to the book endings.
I still liked Manhunter better.
Now there's some differences from the Red Dragon novel.
Oh for sure absolutely. Major Differences HahA
😅😅😅 mediocre acting worst movie ever
Nothing compares to “Silence of The Lambs”. Also one of the best produced and executed movies
Red Dragon was better
@@dbsasuke _You're_ just trying to start shit, aren't 'ya?
😅
...that or you like shitty filter effects.
Either way, you're entitled to your opinion.
Even if it is wrong.
😉
@@joelbizzell1386 Red Dragon (the book) is indeed better. A lot of what made the movie version of Silence of the Lambs came from Red Dragon while the book version of Silence is just a recycling of the ideas from the previous book but without the compelling storytelling genius.
@@unicronsaber4268 These guys are talking about the movie adaptations.
Red Dragon, the book, may be better, though I find Gumb to be a more compelling subject that Dolarhyde. So my personal preference is still _Silence..._
But with the movie, the is no question.
The _Silence..._ movie is both layered and subtle. Measured and masterful.
_Red Dragon_ is...something less.
It's just a little too flashy. A little to much winking for the audience. And way too much "BWAAAAH! LOOK!"
And the tinted filters really annoy me, but that was just the trend in the early 2000s.
Not a bad movie. I _do_ enjoy it for what it is.
It just doesn't compare to _Silence of the Lambs._
@@joelbizzell1386 Manhunter is about as good as Silence, IMO.
I love to Hannibal Lecter series and just finished the book Red Dragon two weeks ago. I absolutely loved it and was not able to put it down. I will admit, though that the 2002 movie had the superior ending and overall even though it’s a really excellent film, I like the book a little bit more as opposed to silence of the lambs, where I like the movie better than the book.
Gotta love them step cats
Thank you for this video, makes me realize how much better the book is compared to the film.
It wasn’t a medical text. To quote the great TZ… “It’s a cookbook!”
I haven’t read the book but I do remember enjoying this movie when it came out. Fiennes is so good
I pardon you.
He killed his sister's stepcat? LMAO little switched around there Brother! Lol I do that all the time! Great video though!
Love how high quality this is
I really enjoyed watching your critique of the movie & book. Thanks for sharing
any time thanks for stopping by
.
I actually liked the book version of Red Dragon better than Silence of the Lambs
Same, the character development was incredible! I both wanted Graham to stop D while still sympathizing with him and hoping he would find happiness finally
Me too, Silence is a great novel, but Red Dragon is incredible.
Imagine that liking a brett Ratner film over a jonathan demme film.
Great vid! How can't they expand the role of Lecter on the film, I mean, that's probably the biggest draw for audiences when the movie came out.
I totally agree. Without Lecter featured as prominatley as he was it wouldn't be the same.
In my opinion “Manhunter” was the better movie adaptation. The book is best though.
Manhunter?
Manhunter is MUCH better than Red Dragon!
@@LaurenceQuint Wrong. Has anyone taken into consideration that Will Graham in Manhunter is so damn ugly, he looks like Marv from home alone.
Manhunter was a better film Mann's script didn't capture the complexity of the characters, especially not Dollaryhyde.
@@jessebrucepinkman9834 you're saying that Manhunter is worse than Red Dragon because the lead actor isn't as attractive?
That may very well be the weakest and dumbest argument I have ever heard. Manhunter was leaps and bounds better.
Such a great video! I watched all the movies throughout the years, but I just finished Red Dragon for the first time and was hoping someone made a video like this!
I’m glad you liked it. Red Dragon is definitely one of the greats !
Thank you for the effort!!
Good job man, just finished both books
Been discussing this for years. Excellent
That movie is dope
indeed
Do more, man. that was sick.
th-cam.com/video/yciiRsXx8c8/w-d-xo.html way ahead of you
.
I can't believe that they would be so stupid as to assign only two cops to guard Lecter. I believe that there would be an entire swat team plus snipers in place. Lecter wouldn't have been able to sneeze without getting it between the eyes. 🙄
Kinda of cool we get to see this book done 3 times on screen now.
The best part of the movie is Lecter's pony tail.
Ha
Nice content mate!!
Appreciate it!
Iv always had the idea of a cross over where. Francis Dolarhyde, and John Wick were both trained by Lt. Bonham (Tommy Lee Jones from The Hunted 2003) to fight in Bosnia where Dolarhyde was wounded and upon his recovery he stumbles upon an art book in which The Great Red Dragon painting was shown. This would expand upon The Hunted universe, explain how John Wick was trained, and finally show how Francis Dolarhyde was wounded. Just a fun idea.
that would definatley make for an interesting movie
I hate this crossover garbage. Also, John Wick sucks.
The voice of his dollarhydes grandmother was chilling by ellan burstyn
I'd like to see Manhunter and the book comparison if you still wanna do it
Forensic psychiatrist, not forensic psychologist. HUGE difference. A psychiatrist has a medical degree and is trained in medicine, first aid, anatomy, etc. Psychologists are trained in just psychology
troll alert!
@@realbobphilips erm what? no I'm just pointing out a mistake you made in your script.
No hard feelings
Nice!
Yes, please compare "Red Dragon" and Michael Mann's "Manhunter"
I would recommend more background music
He had music playing the entire video, could you not hear it?
The books are amazing
except Hannibal and Hannibal Rising. In a perfect world those don't exist
.
@@realbobphilips would you recommend reading these two or just stopping after silence of the lambs?
I need to watch the film!
cool video, like it......
Thank you
nice nice nice :)
Thank you! Cheers!
Poor Will never gets a happy ending
He has red eyes in the book? That's just silly supernatural shit.
well yeah. so is the six finger stuff. But red eyes are a real phenomena
I thought they were yellow
I thought it meant reddish brown
They were maroon eyes, that appeared red in the dark.
dude whenever you say GUY'S it sounds like my speakers are gonna blow up
I think that Edward Norton is the best Will Graham. 😏
same i think silence of the lambs and red dragon r equally great
Sure, you can use my phone.
You should do the other books too
Check out my Mist movie vs book. That one was actually really good
The original ending, changed in manhunter.red dragon did the real one but the manhunter was badass with the dong in a gadda da vida iron butterfly
I take it you never saw the original adaptation of red dragon Man Hunter
what's that supposed to mean
@@realbobphilips Oh no disrespect mean I just assumed you never saw the 1986 adaptation of Red Dragon. It's called Man Hunter and I prefer it to Red Dragon. I thought Red Dragon the movie was a Silence of the Lambs wannabe milking the serries. I'm sorry no disrespect meant
@@dornravlin no I've seen Manhunter. I liked it up to a point but then when it deviated from the source material I lost interest. The ending was just too clunky
@@realbobphilips far enough take care well one question. How faithful does a text-to-screen adaptation have to be for it to be good? Sometimes I think a movie needs to do its own thing otherwise what's the point. Other times a movie misses the good points of a book. Like Dr. Sleep is a decent adaptation until the end than its blows in the last act
@@dornravlin no honestly sometimes there are great examples of unfaithful adaptations that were better or of equal status to this source material. Like The Shinning, or All Quiet On The Western Front. The thing that Manhunter hit the nerve with me was. I love the Dr. Lecter novels (well the first two at least). and I feel like the lore of the stories (which I give a little too much credence too). It wasn't accurate to that and it made me upset. Much if a historian watched a historical epic that wasn't historically accurate and despite the movie being good or not. the mere fact that the history was distorted or not respected makes you react more negative. So I think Manhunter was a good film but the unfaithfulness to a cannon which I have a deep connection to made me dislike it.
I get a kick out of how T. Harris kind of retconed both Chilton and Crawford’s wife. Chilton was way less of a prick (and seemingly respected by Crawford and Graham), and Crawford’s wife was never called Bella (only Phyllis). I think as a novel, Red Dragon is slightly better than Silence of the Lambs. But only slightly.
Ralph Fiennes was Francis Dolahyde. ...no wonder he goes on to be Lord Voldemort
His sisters stepcat lol 😂
It's fair to say that the movie Red dragon was not based on the book red dragon but based on the movie manhunter which was based on the book Red dragon
It's kinda ironic but in the bible the so called white man is called the great red dragon aka Esau-Edom see a pattern here?!?!🤔💯
um...... no
@@realbobphilips yeah of course not!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😆
@@benjamintribe4652 what are you talking about
@@realbobphilips ok so I just wrote a whole novel but as you know youtube has buzz words that if they deem offensive automatically deletes the comment so I will get back to your reply another time with a more condensed version to your reply!!!
@@realbobphilips hey thanks for your patience I work 48 hours a week so I'm usually tired in the mornings but I have sometime now to share with you my reply to your inquiry about the red dragon and how it is in fact connected biblically/scripturally you see you have to understand that movies are not produced just for pure entertainment/enrichment the people whom are in control of Hollywood and the entertainment industry release movies that have a subliminal underlying message if one has the spiritual eye to seek it out which is also the will of the most high God who is in control of all things good and evil now I don't want to overwhelm you nor confuse you so here's a 10 minute link describing the great red dragon and you will see why I wrote my original comment a few days ago all of this is historical/biblical facts as well as prophecy!!!...please pay attention and understand that I mean no malice nor willful intent by showing you this but facts are facts and this is only the tip of the iceberg now feel free to do your own research and challenge this if you will!!!.....oh and also keep in mind that this is symbolic!!!
Check Link: th-cam.com/video/UGEvOHklpxE/w-d-xo.html 👈 (RED DRAGON)
I thought hannibal (2001) was the best, loved it. I'm assuming theres nothing after this story as the other films are chronologically based before hannibal, so after he escapes on the plane, what actually happened to hannibal? Lol
The movie ends on the plane but the book doesn't. The ending of the book was cut entirely from the film. The ending of the book is a bit controversial and not many people like it.
@@liveac3694 interesting... wish they had it on the film, crap cliffhanger haha.
A Hopkins has said in at least one interview that he'd written a screenplay that takes place after the Hannibal novel. He's never gone into any detail, and he's never (as of yet) made it available publicly,...but he did mention that one of the the locales is San Francisco,...and that it does chronicle the death of Lecter at the hands of Starling.
@@tsiqueido sounds great. Fingers crossed that makes it to the screen lol
Good video.... keep it up... I wait for your return response.
Thank You I very Much appreciate that
It's because for how amazingly talented Edward Norton is, he's not that likable in this movie the way Clarice was. He's more likeable in Fight Club. And also Molly is quite whiney so she wasn't likeable either. D, Lector and especially Reba totally stole the show ❤
Clothed rhymes with loathed, not moth. Also, it's media, not mediums.
The ending of the book is very different to the ending of the film
There's 70's Red Dragon adaptation too, with the corniest ending ever, and I like that Lecter better
The Image, used on the cover conceiling an identity.
?
@@realbobphilips Left side the face of the actor who played the villain, created by a novel by Tom Harris, started with a horror movie about a cannibal with name "Hannibal Lector". Origin, "Maneater", first movie, my cousin showed me. "Book title "The Red Dragon." do not now who made it, cause to disgusting (he was quite harder, to go on movies, that where to haunting to watch, always in search of an unrated version. "A movie I have seen, in Berlin, Germany, with some classmates", "The silence of the lamb", with Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins." The image of Anthony Hopkins, I know not, what it was that disturbed me, maybe. similarities with my German teacher, in the school I was. Later I learned that the events of the movie are based on a true story, but honestly, I guess every story is somehow related to this, maybe, later or earlier or vice versa. Someone goes on and makes a movie anyway. If he had the copyright or not.
His first name started with Gregor, somehow being proud, because of the creation of the Gregorian Calender. Nice person, at all, my teacher not the character portrayed by Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Hopkins, a person I only know from acting in movies, playing different personalities.
Asked me how PC (Personal Computer) works gave him a book about MS-DOS maybe Version 3.3. Microsoft Disk Operating System. The image of the book.
Guess what? Look for yourself? Movie was remade to often.
duckduckgo.com/?q=Tom+Harris+Book+The+Red+Dragon&t=newext&atb=v253-1&iax=images&ia=images
Quite disturbing the fact, that noone made a movie about "The Dark Eye", or in german "Das schwarze Auge" a creation by Ulrich Kiesow. Guess one of the better role playing games. Started with "The sword of destiny", going further "Startrail" and "Schadow over Riva".
In German "Die Schicksalsklinge", "Sternenschweif" and "Schatten über Riva."
th-cam.com/video/SytClnesoQA/w-d-xo.html
Maybe. "Blade of destiny?"
What's the background music called?
My friend made it from scratch so there is no name
@@realbobphilips It's really good.
A much better adaptation of Red Dragon is the movie Manhunter. EDIT: It may not be as "accurate" as Red Dragon. However, Manhunter is stand alone masterpiece by Michael Man. It would be this way even if it wasn't about characters that became part of pop culture. It's a far better film than Red Dragon on it's own merits.
I disagree. And I love the book and both film adaptations. I just think Manhunter jumps around far too much and is too choppy. The ending is silly. We don’t get much character development or explanation for Dollarhyde and his actions. And at times I just felt like it was just a bunch of scenes thrown together until they decided then needed to get to the ending. I do thoroughly enjoy the intro. Love Will Graham’s scene in the Leeds’ bedroom. Graham’s interview with Lecter is great. But I still felt like it was all just too choppy.
w movie
It's a cookbook, not a medical book.
Manhunter is FAR superior to Red Dragon. Edward Norton was incredibly miscast as Will Graham in comparison with William Peterson. Anthony Hopkins is only back for an easy paycheck and after the first scene, is completely unnecessary to the film. The idea that Red Dragon is even in the same zipcode as Silence is prosperous and borderline offensive.
Completely agree.
Couldn't agree more...
Aside from Fiennes performance as Dollarhyde, this movie was a complete money-grabbing trash heap.
Norton and Hoffman offered such vanilla-flavored characature performances,...I think a "community theater" gig would've been more relevant on their resumes. I'll give Hopkins a pass, since he's even admitted that by the time this movie was filmed, he was basically "having fun" w the Lecter role,...and getting paid handily for that fun. Hopkins actual age vs the story time-line was completely ridiculous,...but that's who the audiences came to see 🤷♂️.
Aside from the Hannibal network series, and Manhunter, the DeLaurentis Co. hasn't really offered anything above average in the Lecter saga (SOTL was produced by MGM). In my opinion, Red Dragon movie is at the very bottom of that list (that includes HRising).
🀄
@@tsiqueido I'm glad someone gets it.
You are so wrong. Red Dragon is a flawless masterpiece. Manhunter has so many problems. No to mention Steven Lang was totally misscasted. William Peterson was so ugly in Manhunter and is overall just not a good actor. Ralph Fiennes was a far superior version of the Red Dragon
@@tsiqueido You have no brain. Pun not intended
Do you see?!?
OH MY GOD I’M SO BORED SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!
nice commentating lmao
thank you
Red dragon is a superior novel. Manhunter is a better movie than red dragon.
Have you seen Michael Mann’s Manhunter? I think it is better.
I've seen Manhunter. I respectfully disagree. I like Red Dragon way more. But I appreciate you sharing
@@realbobphilips Well I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreeing, and I greatly appreciate your replying. I forgot to commend you on your essay. 👍
He forgot to mention manhunter 1986 movie
no I didn't 14:08
but you didnt talk about it
@@seanchukwuezi3079 why would I. Manhunter had nothing to do with the video. This Was Red Dragon Movie vs Book Not Manhunter vs Red Dragon
@@realbobphilips i know you said hanabial lLectur the character catupled to fame by Anthony Hopkins portrayal he wasent the first person to play him
Brian cox played him first in Manhunter
The statement that Anthony Hopkins’ portrayal of Dr. Lecter turned the character into a pop culture icon is 100% true. Undeniable. Hopkins got an Oscar for that role. And it’s also true that Manhunter got a second viewing and its cult following because attention was drawn back to it after the success of Silence Of The Lambs. And yes I know, and many other people know that Brian Cox played him first. It really sounds like you wanted me to give that movie an honorable mention. Unfortunately that’s not what this video was about, Manhunter, for this video, had nothing to do with the equation. I’m sorry if you were disappointed or not what you are looking for. However I’m more than willing to make a Manhunter vs red dragon review.