@@WildWestExtravaganza My brother is blood and a total F##K UP won't walk across the street to piss on him if he was on fire! Having said that I know where your coming from. Maybe Jack felt the way I do who knows?
Have you ever considered getting a PO Box so people can send you stuff? A lot of podcasts I listen to do that. I have a few old books that might be useful to you b
Fun fact for anyone who's interested. Comanche Jack and Billy the Kid are wearing nearly identical shirts in their pictures. Billy's is a bib shirt with an anchor design on the bib, and Jack's looks extremely similar, but unfortunately the part thats visible on Billy's is obscured on Jack's, and the part that's visible on Jack's is obscured by Billy's jacket on him. I think someone somewhere did a pretty deep dive on the shirt comparisons, but I'd never be able to recall where.
I appreciate your balanced view. Too many people wishing to comment on these matters over the years get too dogmatic over absolutist positions they hold. I enjoyed hearing your presentation.
I like the idea of Uatu the Watcher living on the moon asking question like “What if that ranch cook had given Frank Stilwell coffee instead of tea?” and “What if Two Gun Corcoron had actually had a second gun instead of just a big pecker?”
Thanks for another great video!! I love that you include links not only to your previous videos that would pertain to this story, such as the battle for beechers island, but also the links to your research books etc!!! Great stuff!!
Another great show Josh, short but sweet. Your a great story teller, I think in that 5 minutes of free time you have everyday you should write a western of you own. Who knows maybe Hollywood will pick it up!🤠
Josh another no nonsense fair and balanced story. Both Wyatt and Jack were good men . Please do an depth series on General Custer and the battle of the Little Bighorn. Just no Custer bashing please . Heard enough of that from people who watch to much tv and don’t read at all .
Just signed up for into history. Seems to be some pretty good stuff on there, but so far nobody comes close to being as entertaining as you, Josh. Probably gonna have to give some of these guys some pointers.
So...i got subscribed to Into History...enjoying now...Google asked me for feedback...i said "...more Josh, and build his platform, and pay him more!..." Anything i missed?❤❤❤
If it needs dead, it needs really really dead, and probably quickly. Violence is almost never the solution. But when it is, it is almost always the only one, and only speed and adequacy remain important. ("...fast is fine, but accuracy is final...)
Interesting video as always Josh I was wondering if Phineas Fay Clinton the lesser known older brother of Ike and Billy Clanton would make a good podcast video?
@WildWestExtravaganza lol if you get the chance Josh, it's an amazing place. You can feel the history there. If you do, you have to go to Is johnny ringo's grave as well. It's a beautiful place.
Great story, im off subject again but im still processing billy the kid stuff. I have a guestion , where do you think john Tunstal ( being younger than billy) come up with the money to set up a ranch and a store ?
His dad was financing him, initially. He was up in Vancouver and then went down to NM where he met McSween, and then Chisolm. He was working with his dad up north but wanted to try his own thing, being a man on his own and all.
I do love your story telling skills. Often humor in unexpected ways, maybe a bit too much cursing sometimes. Being from Oakland, CA I can handle it, a trying to reform my ways in my old age. Wish I could send in a bit, alas I am poor. Do you take EBT? hahahaha - I hope you make a good living, with your skills you should. Seems that you are NOT a script reader and very capable of the art of ad-libing!
Very interesting. Thanks for presenting this. My two cents: If Comanche Jack went after Wyatt Earp looking to avenge Frank I can't see him doing it other than alone. With all the shit he's done and the people's he surrounded himself with I cannot see the man throwing in with the likes of the cowboys as a means of settling the score. I see it as a hunt, stalking Earp one night through smokey saloons until finally getting his chance. That's his style compared to riding with a pack. Especially when they're a pack of dicks. But Earp's not an easy mark. Those smokey saloons are home to him and he's participated in more violence there than on the dusty street. Comanche Jack makes one mistake and Earp's got him. They go to pistols I think Earp's coming out on top with this invincibility to bullets he seems to have. If they go to hand to hand I think it leans to Jack's favor. Earp's got the bouncer experience but Jack's a scout and a scout who doesn't know how to use a knife isn't much of a scout. That was fun! Thanks for letting me play. Also congratulations on doing this full time! You've earned it, sir. I'm excited to be along for the ride!
Good write up. But like was said, Wyatt was very tough to beat. He was an excellent boxer and known for his ability as a pugilist (Young Guns nod right there!). Supposedly Jack did ride with Behan's posse and realized firsthand what a bunch of scum bags they were and parted ways because he didn't want to be associated with them.
If you do a podcast on Doc Holliday could you cover the photographs claiming to be Holliday? Personally, I believe the “picnic photo” is legitimate. It also depicts Morgan Earp, Kate Elder and Morgan’s wife. If you compare this photo with a photo of Holliday as a young man in Georgia, you can see the similarity in the shape of the skulls. Holliday’s upper head was large and very rounded
Clay kills bill in a grave with a knife and Burris him there. Now there is a page for history. Lol two living legends in there time go at it. That would have been crazy.
The Battle of beecher island was a bad ass almost last stand. Stilwell and the rest were very brave and lucky! Real men! PS. Jack Stilwell would have smoked Wyett. Earp.
I would like to see Wyatt Earp vs. Johnny Ringo. Because even though there's a lot of Wyatt Earp worshippers according to newspapers, according to the deputy sheriff, and according to the townspeople Johnny Ringo have backed Wyatt Earp down twice after ok corral. I mean that's why Wyatt Earp and doc Holliday tried to lie and say they killed Johnny Ringo which is on the tombstone movie that is very much not true. Wyatt Earp was in Denver and hundreds of people seen him there. He was actually on the outskirts of Denver because until the murder warrant came they weren't going to let him into town. Doc Holliday was even further away in Glenwood springs Colorado he was even in court on the day Ringo was shot so unless he could teleport he could not possibly have been involved. Wyatt Earp had a bad habit of cleaning kills that he did not do like he claimed you killed curly Bill. According to Carly bills closest friends he was getting older tiring of the outlaw line he wanted to go to Mexico where he was in love with a woman and start a ranch and according to his closest friends that's exactly what he did. They said there was only for men at the springs at the time and they traded shots with Wyatt Earp and neither side scored a hit. According to his closest friends curly Bill heard about his death at the hands of Wyatt Earp in 1891. I'll say it again just for emphases Wyatt Earp nor doc Holliday could have possibly killed Ringo. Doc Holliday was the one that told Wyatt Earp I am dead anyway if you want to go out in a blaze of glory I'm with you but if you want to stay alive leave Ringo alone and let's get out of Arizona. I mean they're not going to go all over the desert and the woods trying to track down Ringo when there was a murder warrant facing them. 7 people seeing buckskin Frank Leslie stalking Ringo because even though they had had friendly drinks earlier they got into a heated argument. Breckenridge said he passed Ringo on the trail so drunk he was helpless he offered Breckenridge a drink and the whiskey burned his lips. He tried to get Ringo to accompany him to tombstone Ringo drunk and stubborn declined. A little while later his horse had got away from him took the boots. In November 1880 to Billy Claiborne challenge Frank Leslie to a gunfight and wish the drunken Claiborne lost. Before he died he said Ringo was killed by Frank Leslie I seen him do it. After murdering his live-in girlfriend Leslie who got friendly with the prison guard told him I come upon Ringo drunk passed out asleep and I shot him and took some hair for a souvenir that's what happened to Johnny Ringo. Whoever killed him it wasn't a stand-up gunfight it was a sleeping passed out man. And unless you can teleport all over the country two of the suspects are out of the equation.
I'm sorry Josh I can't support you monetarily even though I've been a long time friend over the past I feel your uter dismissal of Brushy Bill a bit narrow-minded.
I kinda feel like if Comanche Jack wanted to catch up with Wyatt Earp, he could have. What do you think?
Sure, but why try to kill a man for stomping out a bad seed even if he was your brother.
If Jack had wanted to, he would have
@@rongreen4536 Blood is blood. Doesn't make it rational or even right.
@@WildWestExtravaganza My brother is blood and a total F##K UP won't walk across the street to piss on him if he was on fire! Having said that I know where your coming from. Maybe Jack felt the way I do who knows?
Have you ever considered getting a PO Box so people can send you stuff? A lot of podcasts I listen to do that. I have a few old books that might be useful to you b
Always a great morning when Bloody Beaver Trappin Josh makes another episode that sends his opposition to Boot Hill
My man
Thanks for the history and the giggles
Thanks for listening
Fun fact for anyone who's interested. Comanche Jack and Billy the Kid are wearing nearly identical shirts in their pictures. Billy's is a bib shirt with an anchor design on the bib, and Jack's looks extremely similar, but unfortunately the part thats visible on Billy's is obscured on Jack's, and the part that's visible on Jack's is obscured by Billy's jacket on him.
I think someone somewhere did a pretty deep dive on the shirt comparisons, but I'd never be able to recall where.
Another great adventure into the wild west! 👍🤠👍Thank you Josh! ❤
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
I appreciate your balanced view. Too many people wishing to comment on these matters over the years get too dogmatic over absolutist positions they hold. I enjoyed hearing your presentation.
Thanks
Ahhh yes. Here we are! My morning coffee🤠 ☕️
Good morning
Mornin brother
Another great episode as always.
I like the idea of Uatu the Watcher living on the moon asking question like “What if that ranch cook had given Frank Stilwell coffee instead of tea?” and “What if Two Gun Corcoron had actually had a second gun instead of just a big pecker?”
Ha!
Always love youre videos. Makes me a happy man. Great work as always bro.
Glad you like them!
Name wise, I prefer Comanche Jack. Even someone yelling, “Hey Comanche !” across a room full of people, sounds kinda cool. Thanks Josh.
What If was a great series.
Awesome job Josh. Love this stuff
Gracias
Thanks for another great video!! I love that you include links not only to your previous videos that would pertain to this story, such as the battle for beechers island, but also the links to your research books etc!!! Great stuff!!
Thanks Don
Josh, my day is always brighter when I see a new video by you.
Thank you
Thanks Sandi
Love ALL of these!
Thank you
Another great show Josh, short but sweet. Your a great story teller, I think in that 5 minutes of free time you have everyday you should write a western of you own. Who knows maybe Hollywood will pick it up!🤠
Ha thanks
Josh another no nonsense fair and balanced story. Both Wyatt and Jack were good men . Please do an depth series on General Custer and the battle of the Little Bighorn. Just no Custer bashing please . Heard enough of that from people who watch to much tv and don’t read at all .
Definitely soon
Just signed up for into history. Seems to be some pretty good stuff on there, but so far nobody comes close to being as entertaining as you, Josh.
Probably gonna have to give some of these guys some pointers.
Ha, they're all better than me but thank you!
@@WildWestExtravaganza 👍
Good job sir.
Thank you Steven
Would love a full series on Wyatt Earp similar to the billy the kid one
Definitely going to happen
Gotta feeling jack knew frank was a piece of crap and got what he had coming
very nicely done...keep up the good stuff
Thank you
I wonder if it would be worth an episode on Turkey Creek Jack Johnson and some of the things he encountered
Absolutely
Thanks for sharing in detail about who these people were and how they all were
connected in history!..👍😎
My pleasure!
Very enjoyable content again Josh, who was Jack stillwell? Brave and mad as they all were, god great times indeed.
Another great video and the opening of the wild west multiverse. The comics is Marvel's What If and Disney plus has a show of the same name
So...i got subscribed to Into History...enjoying now...Google asked me for feedback...i said "...more Josh, and build his platform, and pay him more!..." Anything i missed?❤❤❤
Haha thanks
Jeremiah Johnson = G O A T
Your narration is second only to David Attenborough. You have a way of bringing the old west to life in the minds eye, that is a skill.
Too kind, thank you
If it needs dead, it needs really really dead, and probably quickly. Violence is almost never the solution. But when it is, it is almost always the only one, and only speed and adequacy remain important. ("...fast is fine, but accuracy is final...)
Interesting video as always Josh I was wondering if Phineas Fay Clinton the lesser known older brother of Ike and Billy Clanton would make a good podcast video?
Good question, maybe
The fastest gun on the tube! Great job thanks!!🔫🔫
Ha
Great story but too short!
Yeah I remember the what ifs
That guy had grit.
Technically he still does where he is now
@@Beer4Breakfast no. Before he had, now he is.
That man has 3 last names
What is the track you've used in the video as it isn't listed in the description? Also, is it copyrighted and royalty free?
Don't remember the name but I purchased it on Audiojungle
@@WildWestExtravaganza Okay thanks, will take a butchers and see what I can find
Have you ever been to tombstone Josh. It's one of my favorite places to visit.
No sir, not yet
Well, it's time to saddle up and git yourself there!!
If I had wings I'd go right now
@WildWestExtravaganza lol if you get the chance Josh, it's an amazing place. You can feel the history there. If you do, you have to go to Is johnny ringo's grave as well. It's a beautiful place.
@@snappers_antique_firearms I really want to
Great story, im off subject again but im still processing billy the kid stuff. I have a guestion , where do you think john Tunstal ( being younger than billy) come up with the money to set up a ranch and a store ?
No idea but I think he was partnered with McSween
Well john chisolm cattle baron was tunstal and mcsweens business partner but then the kid starting cutting chisoms cattle
His dad was financing him, initially. He was up in Vancouver and then went down to NM where he met McSween, and then Chisolm. He was working with his dad up north but wanted to try his own thing, being a man on his own and all.
❤
I do love your story telling skills. Often humor in unexpected ways, maybe a bit too much cursing sometimes. Being from Oakland, CA I can handle it, a trying to reform my ways in my old age. Wish I could send in a bit, alas I am poor. Do you take EBT? hahahaha - I hope you make a good living, with your skills you should. Seems that you are NOT a script reader and very capable of the art of ad-libing!
Oh I'm definitely reading a script.
Hmm this coffee taste a little strange….. bang!
A1
What if Hosea never met Dutch Van Der Linde?
Very interesting. Thanks for presenting this. My two cents: If Comanche Jack went after Wyatt Earp looking to avenge Frank I can't see him doing it other than alone. With all the shit he's done and the people's he surrounded himself with I cannot see the man throwing in with the likes of the cowboys as a means of settling the score. I see it as a hunt, stalking Earp one night through smokey saloons until finally getting his chance. That's his style compared to riding with a pack. Especially when they're a pack of dicks. But Earp's not an easy mark. Those smokey saloons are home to him and he's participated in more violence there than on the dusty street. Comanche Jack makes one mistake and Earp's got him. They go to pistols I think Earp's coming out on top with this invincibility to bullets he seems to have. If they go to hand to hand I think it leans to Jack's favor. Earp's got the bouncer experience but Jack's a scout and a scout who doesn't know how to use a knife isn't much of a scout. That was fun! Thanks for letting me play. Also congratulations on doing this full time! You've earned it, sir. I'm excited to be along for the ride!
Good story! I think Wyatt could handle his own in the fisticuffs department though
Yeah that's hard to argue with.@@WildWestExtravaganza
Good write up. But like was said, Wyatt was very tough to beat. He was an excellent boxer and known for his ability as a pugilist (Young Guns nod right there!).
Supposedly Jack did ride with Behan's posse and realized firsthand what a bunch of scum bags they were and parted ways because he didn't want to be associated with them.
You tell them I'm coming! And my wife is coming with me! (Actually that never happens 😅😅)
I'm not afraid of you, but your wife scares the Be'Jesus outta me!! lol just having some fun... 😀
The Texas Fence Cutter’s War
Make it
We have nothing
Who's we?
People don't know about it
It was a big deal
The texas rangers killed them/or just made them put down the scissors
nothing really on TH-cam about it
I'll look into it
If you do a podcast on Doc Holliday could you cover the photographs claiming to be Holliday? Personally, I believe the “picnic photo” is legitimate. It also depicts Morgan Earp, Kate Elder and Morgan’s wife. If you compare this photo with a photo of Holliday as a young man in Georgia, you can see the similarity in the shape of the skulls. Holliday’s upper head was large and very rounded
Im literally working on this as we speak but i didn't know about a picnic photo
@@WildWestExtravaganza google it under the “picnic photo image.” It was taken on 4/24/1881 (Morgan’s birthday)
@@WildWestExtravaganza google “1881 tin type of doc Holliday and Morgan Earp.”
@@WildWestExtravaganza now google “photo of doc Holliday as a young man in Georgia.”
Found it, thanks
Lol is Arkansas Davie going to show up lmao seams like he's all over the west.
Some claim that he lived in Tombstone at the time but I dunno!
Clay kills bill in a grave with a knife and Burris him there. Now there is a page for history. Lol two living legends in there time go at it. That would have been crazy.
The Battle of beecher island was a bad ass almost last stand. Stilwell and the rest were very brave and lucky! Real men! PS. Jack Stilwell would have smoked Wyett. Earp.
Stillwell got exactly what he deserved only it should have been prolonged....
Earp wasn't hard to find
I would like to see Wyatt Earp vs. Johnny Ringo. Because even though there's a lot of Wyatt Earp worshippers according to newspapers, according to the deputy sheriff, and according to the townspeople Johnny Ringo have backed Wyatt Earp down twice after ok corral. I mean that's why Wyatt Earp and doc Holliday tried to lie and say they killed Johnny Ringo which is on the tombstone movie that is very much not true. Wyatt Earp was in Denver and hundreds of people seen him there. He was actually on the outskirts of Denver because until the murder warrant came they weren't going to let him into town. Doc Holliday was even further away in Glenwood springs Colorado he was even in court on the day Ringo was shot so unless he could teleport he could not possibly have been involved. Wyatt Earp had a bad habit of cleaning kills that he did not do like he claimed you killed curly Bill. According to Carly bills closest friends he was getting older tiring of the outlaw line he wanted to go to Mexico where he was in love with a woman and start a ranch and according to his closest friends that's exactly what he did. They said there was only for men at the springs at the time and they traded shots with Wyatt Earp and neither side scored a hit. According to his closest friends curly Bill heard about his death at the hands of Wyatt Earp in 1891. I'll say it again just for emphases Wyatt Earp nor doc Holliday could have possibly killed Ringo. Doc Holliday was the one that told Wyatt Earp I am dead anyway if you want to go out in a blaze of glory I'm with you but if you want to stay alive leave Ringo alone and let's get out of Arizona. I mean they're not going to go all over the desert and the woods trying to track down Ringo when there was a murder warrant facing them. 7 people seeing buckskin Frank Leslie stalking Ringo because even though they had had friendly drinks earlier they got into a heated argument. Breckenridge said he passed Ringo on the trail so drunk he was helpless he offered Breckenridge a drink and the whiskey burned his lips. He tried to get Ringo to accompany him to tombstone Ringo drunk and stubborn declined. A little while later his horse had got away from him took the boots. In November 1880 to Billy Claiborne challenge Frank Leslie to a gunfight and wish the drunken Claiborne lost. Before he died he said Ringo was killed by Frank Leslie I seen him do it. After murdering his live-in girlfriend Leslie who got friendly with the prison guard told him I come upon Ringo drunk passed out asleep and I shot him and took some hair for a souvenir that's what happened to Johnny Ringo. Whoever killed him it wasn't a stand-up gunfight it was a sleeping passed out man. And unless you can teleport all over the country two of the suspects are out of the equation.
When I looked into Ringo's death I came away thinking that he killed himself. He's someone I plan on revisiting, though.
I'm sorry, but it needs to be said for others who may read this post, that you are mistaken on many points.
I'm sorry Josh I can't support you monetarily even though I've been a long time friend over the past I feel your uter dismissal of Brushy Bill a bit narrow-minded.
No need to be sorry
Good luck
@@thehorseman8271 good luck to you too
Another great episode as always.
Thank you for listening