Super excited about this scale! As a Flair user but long-time Decent fan, I’ve been wanting to use the Smart Espresso profiler app but haven’t been able to justify the expense of an Acaia or similar scale. I imagine the scale will be compatible with the app, and will allow me to get similar data out of my shots as if I had a Decent :)
How does this scale work for pour over? I'm worried that it'd be hard to see the numbers on the scale since the screen doesn't face upwards like other scales. Otherwise it's fantastic scale that works brilliantly with the DE machines at a fraction of the price of an Acaia scale.
Pour over vessels often block the scale display on top, so I'm hoping it'll work better than most, since the display is not blocked. Also... you might use a Pour Over app, which echoes the weight.
@@decentespresso ah that's a good point, I could see how larger pour over vessels would obstruct top facing displays. Any chance we could get a quick video of the Decent scale being used for pour over? If I know it would work well for pour over it'd make me never consider getting an Acaia scale again lol
Hi do you need to tare the scale again before starting the shot? I don't see the need personally because you are measuring the rate of change. Please correct me if I am wrong.
probably not. It is just cheaper and as long as the lunar works fine for you there wont be any improvement. For new people though the lunar does not justify the higher price compared to the decent scale.
If you're wondering "how does this scale compare to the competition", my answer is: - It's an open-scale, meant to be supported by a wide variety of apps. In a few months, I hope you'll be able to find a large number of apps that work with it. The API is open decentespresso.com/decentscale_api and we're sending free scales to programmers of apps on the ios and android stores. - It's got a very waterproof design, with no openings at all from the top of sides. That includes the USB port, which is on the bottom, and not on the side, unlike some competing scales. - It has a vertical LED and vertical buttons, which are not blocked when you put a large vessel on the top of the scale. Most competing scales have their LEDs and buttons on top, and a large vessel (such as if you use this for baking) will obstruct them. - And it's less expensive than many competing scales, at USD$99. - More about the scale hardware at this video: th-cam.com/video/IpjN_FzjUW8/w-d-xo.html
@@decentespresso Interesting. I use the acaia lunar with my Flair 58 (I was sorely tempted by the Decent, but we have limited counterspace!). Works quite well, but if it brushes the side of the machine at all it throws off the measurement.
@@flashdy to be honest, I did have any issues with Luna unless there is a really noticeable vibration, looks like they made a good job on compensating it with software. But it costs more than twice of Decent Scale.
I feel like they need to work on the aesthetics of their scales, as much as I love to get it for the functionality, it's extremely hard justify having a cheap digital clock looking thing sitting around my coffee counter. I am pretty sure Decent knows people cares will pay for aesthetic, that's why the white DE1 is more expensive than the black counterpart.
Ronnie has a point to a degree - got my notification my scale is enroute today but a white version with my white Niche and white XXL would be pretty slick leaving the HG2 as the monolith (although a white Key may appear at some point)
@@davidpinnington213 Maybe I'm overly harsh with my comment, but I really REALLY want to like this scale. Let's see if a white version will change my mind.
the problem is the timer starting at the time water hits the coffee puck !! which i don't like ! i want it to start at the time the coffee drop in the cup ! how can i do that ?
@@decentespresso a missing feature should not be explained with a design principle. If every consumer product would follow that, we would not have made any progress since that KISS statement was made.
Just hooking up the scale now, great info!
genius works
Super excited about this scale! As a Flair user but long-time Decent fan, I’ve been wanting to use the Smart Espresso profiler app but haven’t been able to justify the expense of an Acaia or similar scale. I imagine the scale will be compatible with the app, and will allow me to get similar data out of my shots as if I had a Decent :)
Yes, SEP are working on a new version that works with this scale.
Decent work guys. Sorry had to do that. Looking forward to seeing some reviews.
sold.
How does this scale work for pour over? I'm worried that it'd be hard to see the numbers on the scale since the screen doesn't face upwards like other scales. Otherwise it's fantastic scale that works brilliantly with the DE machines at a fraction of the price of an Acaia scale.
Pour over vessels often block the scale display on top, so I'm hoping it'll work better than most, since the display is not blocked. Also... you might use a Pour Over app, which echoes the weight.
@@decentespresso ah that's a good point, I could see how larger pour over vessels would obstruct top facing displays. Any chance we could get a quick video of the Decent scale being used for pour over? If I know it would work well for pour over it'd make me never consider getting an Acaia scale again lol
Hi do you need to tare the scale again before starting the shot? I don't see the need personally because you are measuring the rate of change. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Nope, the DE1 tells the scale to tare on espresso start.
Would you recommend a Scale vs Skale 2 for DE1 Pro usage?
Both are good, just depends which design (shape) pleases you more.
Any benefit over the Acaia Lunar scale for people who already have it?
probably not. It is just cheaper and as long as the lunar works fine for you there wont be any improvement. For new people though the lunar does not justify the higher price compared to the decent scale.
If you're wondering "how does this scale compare to the competition", my answer is:
- It's an open-scale, meant to be supported by a wide variety of apps. In a few months, I hope you'll be able to find a large number of apps that work with it. The API is open decentespresso.com/decentscale_api and we're sending free scales to programmers of apps on the ios and android stores.
- It's got a very waterproof design, with no openings at all from the top of sides. That includes the USB port, which is on the bottom, and not on the side, unlike some competing scales.
- It has a vertical LED and vertical buttons, which are not blocked when you put a large vessel on the top of the scale. Most competing scales have their LEDs and buttons on top, and a large vessel (such as if you use this for baking) will obstruct them.
- And it's less expensive than many competing scales, at USD$99.
- More about the scale hardware at this video: th-cam.com/video/IpjN_FzjUW8/w-d-xo.html
@abdulla essa That's right, I agree.
@@decentespresso Interesting. I use the acaia lunar with my Flair 58 (I was sorely tempted by the Decent, but we have limited counterspace!). Works quite well, but if it brushes the side of the machine at all it throws off the measurement.
@@flashdy to be honest, I did have any issues with Luna unless there is a really noticeable vibration, looks like they made a good job on compensating it with software. But it costs more than twice of Decent Scale.
How much space is between the scale and the portafilter?
About 10.5cm
I feel like they need to work on the aesthetics of their scales, as much as I love to get it for the functionality, it's extremely hard justify having a cheap digital clock looking thing sitting around my coffee counter.
I am pretty sure Decent knows people cares will pay for aesthetic, that's why the white DE1 is more expensive than the black counterpart.
Everyone has their own tastes. You don't like the way it looks, that's fine. Plenty of others have written "it's beautiful!"
Looks great to me. And some very expensive hifi hardware has some very simple displays
Ronnie has a point to a degree - got my notification my scale is enroute today but a white version with my white Niche and white XXL would be pretty slick leaving the HG2 as the monolith (although a white Key may appear at some point)
@@davidpinnington213 Maybe I'm overly harsh with my comment, but I really REALLY want to like this scale. Let's see if a white version will change my mind.
@@ronnieyuen4309 My worry about a white top is that there would be poor visual contrast with the weight.
the problem is the timer starting at the time water hits the coffee puck !! which i don't like ! i want it to start at the time the coffee drop in the cup ! how can i do that ?
Do you want that with your DE1, or without one?
@@decentespresso yes with DE1
@@decentespresso hello please answer me thank you
@@ahmedov1399 the timer is total shot time, not 1st drip. Even with the de1.
I feel like there is some missed NFC convenience opportunities here, maybe in the next version :)
KISS en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle
@@decentespresso a missing feature should not be explained with a design principle. If every consumer product would follow that, we would not have made any progress since that KISS statement was made.
Not sure what exactly NFC adds to already existing connectivity protocols?
@@cybernessful you don't have to pair
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