Discovering Dispensationalism with Tommy Ice, Cory Marsh, and James Fazio
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Shawn interviews the editors of Discovering Dispensationalism, Cory Marsh and James Fazio, along with contributor Tommy Ice. They discuss how Jesus's parables prepared us for a Dispensational framework, how an anti-intellectual label was placed on Dispensationalism, Darby and Scofield's contributions, how Mid-Acts and Progressive Dispensationalism both have added to and detracted from the movement as a whole.
They each present their Mount Rushmore of Dispensationalism.
You can order Discovering Dispensationalism at www.amazon.com...
I adore this book and enjoy the video!
As a Baptist who holds to the Mid-Acts position, I take our hermeneutic being "too good" and "literalistic" as a great compliment.
The history covered in this book is extremely beneficial and I love each of the authors. Watching all you brothers talk over this work was a wonderful blessing indeed.
I am firmly convinced that if the Mid-Acts position was not known to omit baptism, many, many more dispensationalists and non-dispensationalists would adopt the position. I very very appreciative that this book does not ignore us as "ultra" and "hyper" as I've found even Scofield and Chafer in our modern day to be called, so that our position actually receives a spotlight and a hearing.
God bless each of you! Thank you brother Shawn for having these great men together!
I am under the impression that Sur Robert Anderson was a mid -acts dispensationalist, wasn't he? As far as I know, he did not reject baptism, right? Although he did believe baptism was a sign for the millennium.
Loved this interview! Could have listened to another hour of discussion between you four. Well done!
That's a great boost to hear.
Great conference interview. It's great to see an interviewer with sharp questions, for once. Nice job.
thank you. I really appreciate the encouragement
Totally agree with you Shawn on Tim LaHaye.
Totally agree with you Shawn on Tim LaHaye, all due respect to Dr. Marsh.
Nice job, as always, Shawn. Excellent insights from each person. Interesting to hear your guests opine that progressives aren't really dispensationalists. They should change their designation from progressive dispensationalists to progressive reformers to better reflect their views.
Weeeee! Feels like Christmas. 😁
Where was tommy ice?
He's there in the video.
Very disappointing. One hour of my life I won’t get back. I was looking forward to hear what you had to say about mid-acts. Nobody expressed the reason they don’t like it. Also ignored the acts28 position altogether. I would have liked to have heard more from the older gentleman.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8.)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the TH-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
(See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.)
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.
You didn't even watch the interview, did you?
@@RevReadsthey don't. They neither read nor listen to scholarly work. They read and listen to what covenantalists misrepresent.
I've seen you cut and paste in other videos. You have too much time on your hands.
@@theocratickingdom30 Everything but the quotes from the professors at Dallas Theological Seminary was written by me. I would invite all of the unbiased witnesses here to get out their Bibles and compare what is in the article to the Word of God.
Those that have to use ridicule and condemnation to make their Bible doctrine work have revealed the doctrine for what it really is.