KIA ENGINE SETTLEMENT PART 28 | SHOW THIS PAMPHLET WHEN TRYING TO GET YOUR ENGINE REPLACED
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- KIA ENGINE SETTLEMENT PART 28 | SHOW THIS PAMPHLET WHEN TRYING TO GET YOUR ENGINE REPLACED
In this video I go into detail on the KIA Pamphlet that will help you get your engine replaced. Do not let a dealership deny you! Use this pamphlet to keep records of everything you have done to your car and everything that has gone wrong with your car.
Download Pamphlet here: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/www.kiaenginesettlement.com/C...
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If your kia or Hyundai car is burning oil then this is the most important video to you in recent years. please share this video with everyone so we can hold KIA and Hyundai accountable for selling us such bad cars. The full article is in the link below. Thank you for watching.
PLEASE HEAD OVER TO CARL'S GARAGE FOR ALL KIA/HYUNDAI AND CAR RELATED CONTENT!
Full article: driving.ca/auto-news/industry...
Some owners of Hyundai/Kia products are up in arms about oil - and not the price of it on the world’s markets. A cadre of eight people in America, ranging in location from California to Texas to Massachusetts, have brought forth a class-action lawsuit earlier this year alleging the engines in certain Hyundai and Kia vehicles consume inordinate amounts of oil. At issue is the apparent need to add engine oil more frequently than the owner’s manual suggests, plus the allegation that some of the wayward oil finds its way into other parts of the vehicle’s gubbins to cause extra damage.
As per the suit, filed by Nye Stirling Hale And Miller; Sauder Schelkopf LLC and Walsh PLLC, plaintiffs contend the defendants “concealed and failed to address” a known manufacturing defect that results in excessive engine oil consumption and can lead to engine stalling and failure. Plaintiffs say that overfilling the engine with oil isn’t a good solution since the chance exists of submerging the crankshaft, a situation which could foam the oil and reduce lubrication. There’s also the issue of extra oil potentially putting undue strain on gaskets and the like.
Elsewhere in this neck of the woods, Hyundai recently expanded an existing recall by over 150,000 vehicles in Canada due to potential problems which could pose a fire risk or lead to the engine suddenly losing power. That defect could be linked to worn connecting rod bearings.
If you’re seeking for a text of the new class-action suit in its entirety, it can be found by searching Cho et al v. Hyundai Motor Company, Ltd. et al. or the clinically impersonal file name of 8:22-cv-00448.
There are a wide variety of Hyundai and Kia models named in the suit, some going back so far as 2009. According to the suit, cars with the allegedly faulty engines include:
2012-2020 Hyundai Elantra
2009-2018 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
2019-2021 Hyundai Kona
2020-2021 Hyundai Palisade
2010-2012 Hyundai Santa Fe
2015-2021 Hyundai Santa Fe
2009-2010 Hyundai Sonata
2015-2021 Hyundai Sonata
2011-2021 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid
2010-2013 Hyundai Tucson
2015-2021 Hyundai Tucson
2011-2021 Hyundai Veloster
2020-2021 Hyundai Venue
2010-2021 Kia Forte
2017-2020 Kia Niro
2011-2020 Kia Optima and Optima Hybrid
2012-2021 Kia Rio
2011-2020 Kia Sorento
2012-2021 Kia Soul
2011-2020 Kia Sportage
2018-2021 Kia Stinger
2022 Kia K5
To find out if your car is affected or covered by a recall campaign, you can check online at Transport Canada, using your VIN.
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Thank you for this! My dealer totally tried to slip this by me!
Hi, Carl I have seen couple of videos, I like it, thanks for informative things.
Thanks for watching!
Ty I'll watch this when I get off work ☺️
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My Hyundai i40 station wagon has 82thousand kms not using oil yet appears to be very quiet engine noise i can't believe the great build quality great video 👍 cheers Stephen 🤠✌️
Thanks for the video ❤
Thank you tremendously for being the definitive reason many of the things people knew nothing of found out about! Again i want to Thank you sir very much. Sad world we live in that a dealership would choose to service your vehicle repeatedly and make tons of money yet not tell you about a recall the car had. Is this Russia, China or America? I am unsure of the answer anymore
America
My guy!!! This was right on time. I'm in Cypress too. This was like divine intervention, lol. Please lets connect, my daughter car just went into limp mode two days ago. Let me know if you up for a quick trip to Floyds or somewhere where we can dig into this over a bite to eat.
Appreciate the offer my man but if I were to meet with everyone that had a kia issue id never see my family lol. With that said, the only help I can offer outside of the few hundred videos that ive posted over the past 3 years, is to make sure your daughter has the ksds on her car. Without it her chances of getting her engine replaced are slim to none.
Gotcha! @@CarlsGarage
What about leaking oil in 2018 kia optima is there a recall for this?
I called two years about KDSD two years ago and they told me that it had been updated prior to me owning my car . I bought in 2019. I have had to go and top of off my car consistently.
What a great service you are providing...Carl, do you have any new information about a "consumption recall" since you last made this video? I am exactly in this same scenario with a 2015 Santa Fe Sport Turbo. Thanks...
Yea it’s on the channel
Hey man. I’m taking my car to BEK and masten tomball today. (I saw that’s who you have worked with) the oil light is started to turn on when I come to a stop. I had a service about a year or 2 ago and they said I didn’t need a new engine.
My engine has started shuttering very slightly recently. Hopefully today is smooth.
2015 elantra 1.8L 128K miles: had engine knock for the last ~1K miles; pulled the engine and tore it down. All of my cylinders and pistons were damaged from piston slap, no damage to rod/main bearings. No oil sludge, no debris in pan (I've been doing oil changes every 3500 miles since I bought this, half the time in my driveway though). It's obvious that this motor was assembled with the wrong piston to cylinder clearance; I can see hatching on the sides of the cylinders still (no wear at all) but the front and back of the cylinders/ pistons were ground down from the pistons rocking in the cylinder. This car has always had a slight "tick" but I guess I just got used to it and never thought anything of it. I'm glad I pulled this engine apart when I did, it was close to seizing up and throwing a rod through the block. Having my block machined and rebuilding the motor. I really don't trust the dealership to do these repairs and I don't want a sketchy new motor from Hyundai. Should be able to bore the block .020" oversized, replace the pistons and all bearings, have the head fully inspected/ rebuilt, then drive this car another 250k miles.
You must really love that elantra.
@@CarlsGarage nope just cheap; only ~$300 in parts and ~$300 in machining
I’m new to your channel. And it’s great that you’re helping ppl across the country. Definitely need to be more involved ppl like you.
I’m looking for the same pamphlet but for Hyundai. Can’t seem to find it on their website
Everything is online. You need to see if you have the ksds installed on your car. If not, then you own a expensive paperweight. Kia/Hyundai the worst cars ever sold.
@@CarlsGarage I took it to the dealership yesterday. They said it didn’t need the ksds update. 2016 forte I just purchased. But it did have the anti theft update
Thanks very much for the info. Our 2017 Kia Sportage is using excessive oil. There is a ping or knock unless we use higher octane gas. We are going to do the dealership for a bearing clearance test. If the test passes, does this mean we will no longer be covered for the extended lifetime warranty for the engine. Should we even get the test or just wait, keep putting in the oil and higher octane gas, and see if something happens to the engine? In other words, if it passes the test, does this mean the engine won't be covered if something happens to it down the road?
Thank you
I have Kia Optima ex 2014 and one last weekend I was driving on the highway doing 110 miles and suddenly the engine speed was going slow until I pulled over the curve. Then engine light was flashing and then I have it tow to my mechanic and they changed the camshaft sensore and the car was ok and did my errands. The next i driving out of my building apartment it smoke came out and pull on the curve again. My questions i have that knock sensor installed as well and do I qualified for an engine replacement?
Thanks so much! If I have a Kia, do I have to go to a Kia dealer for the KSDS, or can the local Hyundai dealer do it?
Our Kia Soul 2015 has 60,00 miles. At 50,00 it started seizing and burning oil. The local kia charged us and refused to give us a new engine. Thank you for your info . praying and hoping we can have the recall honored at another dealer .we love our Kia soul , but the engines are poor quality. please Kia new engine. we are seniors and are on a budget.
hi carl, im from south africa i have a 2.4l hyundai sonata it has full service history, is this engine replacement also for south africans?
Hi, Im a new to your channel. I have a 2013 sonata. I have a question. Due to the recall on the engines, Does burning oil count as part of the recall replace? I do have 130,000 miles on it. I do have normal oil changes but every 300 miles i lose half quart of oil while driving normal. Your information is very helpful.
Is there a HYUNDAI version of this pamphlet? Specifically the 2015 Sonata?
Hello Carl i've watched your videos I contacted dealer I have a 2015 Kia optima they said it wasn't covered because it's a Korean built I don't think it should matter it's the same GDI motor and it definitely has a bad rod or rods there are no leaks at all engine light isn't even on yet and how would we have supposed to have known when the car was purchased if it had this software on it and not until it was going to start to have a problem just want to know why the Korean vehicle is any different sorry for such a long message
My kia optima 2011 and is burning oil like crazy. I do add oil every week. Do I need to wait for the engine to go out before they fix it.
Great video, thank you. I have a question you, my Kia is a rebuilt title so I called the dealer, and they said they I'm not eligible for the recall because my car is a rebuilt. Are rebuilt title cars excluded from engine replacement?
That is not true.NHTSA confirmed that the fact that a vehicle was salvaged does not absolve the manufacturer of its obligation to repair a defective vehicle subject to the recall. So long as the vehicle is still drivable and the vehicle is otherwise subject to a recall, the manufacturer/dealer must fix the vehicle.Feb 3, 2023
Is the engine warranty no longer tied to the previous extent of 150,000 miles? My car I under it and engine hasn’t blown up yet but I do suspect high oil consumption that they have denied to address. I was just the dealership and they say All my recalls are up to date but I don’t see the KSDS on my history although I do remember talk of it a couple of years ago I thought I had it
What can I do now that insurance companies are rejecting new policies for kia and hyundai? I just got dropped a couple days ago after my policy ended
Yo, appreciate all you've done for this issue, I purchased the book but haven't received, emailed order number as requested....going to dealership in a.m. so would really like to have the info...
I have a 2015 kia optima ExGDI and my engine is blown I called an official kia dealer in stl mo and asked about a call back on my car they told me there were no call back on my car. What can I do.
2016 Kia Soul-excessive oil consumption. PCV replaced and oil check every 1,000 miles. Changed the catalytic converter. I understand that the converter goes bad, because of the oil consumption. It will need to be done again in the future.
i also have a 2016 kia soul, i have all recall updates but my check engine light came on. Autozone said its the catalytic converter, i have an appointment today with kia, and a case number with corporate. hoping these issues can be resolved because i have no money for this bs. im not sure about the oil consumption though
2014 optima - was told I’m not part of the Ksds recall so it hasn’t been done. I was told my car is covered upto 120k or 10 years in service for rod bearing engine issues only
So what happened I’m in the same boat but at the time when I purchased the car this wasn’t available
Short block covered for 120k or 10 years in service - long block covered for life of vehicle. I called Kia directly
Hello Carl, thank you for the informative videos! I have had my engine in my kia 2015 soul replaced after a check engine light came on. However, I had to do an $700 to $800 "oil clean" before I could get it fixed. After they did the service, I was literally pulling away from the dealership and my engine blew. I was able to limp back the 100 yards. However, they tried to get me to pay for hoses, but I recently had then replaced else where and they could tell they were new. Question after all of this, I have had my engine mounts replaced like 4 times - this can't be normal right? I have 109,000 miles. I have also recently started hearing a knocking noise. Is this possibly related? Engine was replaced at 100,000 miles.
whats an oil clean. i have all the recall update and im going to kia today for another recall issue. i dont have any extra money, the issues should be fixed for $0
Hello Hi my name is chanel and i have a 2015 kia optima and have a engine failure recently today kia declined my request of getting it replaced because i registered my car after it have had it what do my registration had to do me getting my recall done ?and now idk what to do ? what should i do ???
Hi Carl, I have a 2012 Kia Optima ex gdi with 219,000 miles on it. Last year I had the KNOCK SENSOR RECALL done on it while it had started the knocking sound. Dealership couldn’t find anything wrong at that time. Now just 2 weeks ago I had a check engine light come on which dealership replaced the KNOCK SENSOR as that is what the CODE READ. Now a week later another CODE CAME ON as P1326 which I will have towed tomorrow to the dealership. It’s been burning oil about every 500 miles since the mileage reached about 170,000 miles. I’ve taken really good care of my car so just not sure what they are going to tell me now. Any help will be appreciated.
It’s in their hands and you have the ksds. It’s up to them now moving forward
Hey Carl, our 2018 Kia Rio has a 1.6L engine that just died due to burning too much oil but we didn't know it was doing that until it was too late. Is this settlement/recall only on 2.0 or 2.4L engines?
Gotta check out my latest video, I answer a lot of your questions in that video
Carl, recently took my wife's elantra gt 2.0l to the dealership due to a check engine light. The car has 110k miles. It also has ongoing oil consumption that ive kept in check by adding oil regularly. The dealership did the ksds software update after I left the car off at the dealer. After diagnostics were run, the dealer is telling me that it needs a new catalytic converter and they're trying to wring me for $3200. What would you recommend as my next steps. Also, I can't seem to locate a Hyundai specific pamphlet. Will the KIA pamphlet suffice? Thanks for your time. I appreciate your honesty.
You are having the exact same issue I'm having. I have a 2016 Santa Fe Sport AWD and it's consuming oil FAST. My catalytic converter also needs to be replaced a 2nd time. They tried to write me up as well for 3000.00 for a new catalytic converter. I just ordered another CAT because that's the only code that showed when the check engine light popped up.
I have a low mileage 2017 Sonata, 30,000 miles... Anything i can do to force the dealer to fix it before it blows up? Or do i keep driving the ticking time bomb?
Can you make a video explaining what to say and how to say it and also what to say if they try to deny you
Me and my gal are looking at a 2013 Kia, thing is it's from a buy here pay here does this still apply I've been on been verified and there is a recall for something that can make the engine combust where can I get this info
2012 KIA FORTE 2.0. HAS 103,000 MILES. I called KIA and they said my VIN number is not showing up. They said it must be Canadian but we bought it new at Russ Darrow KIA in Wisconsin. Total runaround. Russ Darrow service said their is no recall on my engine? PLEASE HELP
Hey I got a Kia Stinger and it’s has under 90,000 miles and it has to recalls for oil feed & hose assembly , break vacuum pump repair. My check engine light went out and it’s saying it’s the CamShaft, I went to Kia for the recalls and they fixed one but the part for the other had to come in but they saying they might charge me $160 to look again the engine light. Do u think I have a shot with the tips ur giving?
WIth the kia stinger prob not to be honest. Those cars are crap.
Hello Mr. Carl. Thanks so much for your information. My 2014 kia opitima just cut off at the light yesterday and won't crank. I had it towed. I called kia of Evans here in GA and I got an appointment for May 4. But I will have to pay for the Diagnostics. Am I on the right track.
If you got approved for a new engine, you do not have to pay for the diagnostic, they will waive those charges.
@@AlexDeChristian6323
Hello.
Thanks so much for the reply. You are so right.
I took my car to Kia of Augusta and they replaced my engine and repaired some other under the hood issues with absolutely no charge to me. That was back in May. I’m scheduled for a oil change soon and they said they would take care of it for me being that they replaced that engine..
Kia of Savannah is refusing to replace the engine on my 2013 Kia Sorrento because the knock sensor software upgrade was never done. Since I’m not the first owner, I was never notified about this “upgrade.”
Even though you are not the original owner of the car, if you had service at the dealership owner contact information is updated. I was the second owner of a Sorento and received a well worded notification in the mail. My New KIA that I just purchased will always have service at the dealership. If the service intervals are met I see no way that KIA can deny a claim.
What do you do if the kia sportage is in limp mode and it currently dose not have the software update? I bough it 3 days ago unfortunately.
Nothing you can do, unless you find a dealership willing to take it and start the engine repair process
Any tips? I’m pending for approval but I don’t have oil service records since i have also performed diy oil changes on my hyundai and it has the ksds recall
Some dealers ask you for maintenance receipts, some don't, try different dealers, best of luck.
Dame, I have a 2017 KIA sportage LX that just had a code P1326 (knock sensor) issue. And my wife has a 2016 KIA optima which is burning hella oil. Taking my sportage to Dolan Kia autogroup. Hopefully they try not scamming me. Am i making the right decision?
Everything went well. Know time for the KIA optima.
My 2016 Santa Fe Sport 2.4 114k engine blew when my wife was taking the kids to an appointment. I do not have the KDS update but it was supposed to be updated when I had the vehicle in for a repair back on Sep 2020 for another warranty issue. My Santa Fe is currently at my local dealer and they said if I'm not covered then I will have to pay $142 for diagnostic. My question is, why didn't they do the KDS update and will they deny me because of the update wasn't done even though it was supposed to be done. My vehicle should've never been allowed to leave their lot without having the KDS update done.
My 2015 Santa Fe sport 2.0 the engine blew 2 weeks ago the kds was installed 2020 so dealer said they took pictures and send it to warranty now just waiting to see what happens
Is the VIN starts with K or 3?
Hey Carl do you know if after replacing the engine in these cars is there any problems with the replaced or rebuilt engine if it was done by the Kia dealer
Yea the engines they use are the exact same engine with the exact same problem. So those will fail as well
I have a 2016 Kia Soul+ and was never notified about the knock sensor update. Engine is knocking and they will not repair because it never got the update. 90,000 miles and they quoted $12,000 to replace the engine. Guess there is nothing we can do since we didn't have the knock sensor updated.
Just got my 2016 Kia optima 2.0t engine replaced. They tried to pull that maintenance record thing on me but I had everything for them. It took 2 months but it got done.
Dons of B’s always trying to screw the customer over and we’re the ones with the crappy product.
you had the records for them or what did you tell them when they asked? they are trying to do this to me. saying if I don't have 6 paid receipts then they can replace my engine for $6200
@@BUKIWORLD yup. I called valvoline instant oil change and they emailed me everything. Then I forwarded it to the service advisor at the dealership, waiting 2 months and finally got done
Does my 2014 Kia Cadenza with 185k failed engine qualify for this lifetime warranty engine replacement? Help please.
Yes but you gotta have the KSDS update in your car to get it fixed.
I have a 2016 kia optima that I had diagnosed and won't start due to knock sensor failure. I took it to Fredy Kia in houston tx and they say my engine is not covered. I've called their corporate line for over 5 months to get the results of the diagnostics only to be hung up on or routed to a different department to say they don't handle that- I need assistance to reconcile
Does your car have the ksds? Contact Beck and Masten. They did my car.
Had a reman 2.4 put in a year ago under warranty. Original one blew at 32k. No idea if they put that software in or not. Also, I’m the original owner & haven’t received any recall notices. Lastly, if you don’t use a Hyundai/Kia oil filter they’ll try to deny you. They tried that shit with me until they knew that I know my shit & used the highest quality filter.
Recall notice or not, it’s on you as the current owner to call your local dealership and get on file for your car but if you have that car it’s automatically on that theta 2 engine.
I used my VIN on the KIA website and it said my 2019 Optima with the 2.4 liter engine had no recalls. Does that mean that I won't have this engine failure issue?
You need my book. I explain in all my videos that the websites don't show your car
I would like to get that document my name is Keith Barrett Maya Kia optima just broke down on me and thank you for the information that you're sharing please let me know how I can download that warranty
Theres no warranty.
I have a Hyundai sonata 2018 sports. I’ve been to my local dealer I got denied twice even after the oil consumption test, they’re aware of the theta 2 engine failure they refuse me to help because my local dealer say Hyundai corporate denied my claim twice. The estimate for my car is 6k for a new engine. My location it’s south Florida I’ve been dealing with this for 5 months and it’s so annoying even a lawyer said it’s not worth me getting a lawyer because I will spend more money than what I will get in return.
I bought my car pre owned with 55k miles in 2021, 2 years later I have 100k miles they said since I’m a second owner they refuse to help I have heard so many excuses from them for me to get a new engine
My 2016 Hyundai Veloster stopped the other day. Had it towed to my local dealer, they said I have to pay $485 to have an engine diagnostic and if Hyundai corporate deem it their issue they will replace the engine and reimburse the $485.
These are best videos QUESTION, are new KIA SPORTages 😮 better.? 2023 engine is ok in your opinion
In my opinion don’t touch anything that has a Kia or Hyundai badge on it
@@CarlsGarage I 100% agree with you.
Hi I have a 2015 Kia Sportage I took it for a recall the engine has been making a rattle noise the dealership heard the issue and told us if we want to run the diagnostic, we did and it is the Engine but they mention that carfax said it was salvage even tho we have a clean title?
That’s tricky. I would recommend my book but with a savage engine my book can’t help. You have to go to the ppl who sold you the car
I went to Kia about a year ago and did the oil consumption text and they told me it was fine. My engine just seized two days ago, now I am out of a car at the moment.
Hello I bought my daughter 2015 kia soul it just lost rpms and drank oil. I today called my local kia dealer and made an appointment for April 6th I also called about the recall the recall center stated that they only cover rod bearing failure for my car. He said they need to do knock censor test.
Yup, you gotta make sure you have the ksds first. If you have that, you gotta wait for complete engine failure. Then they will replace it
What if engine is bad and I don’t have the ksds on my car, 2013 Optima?
Hi Carl. I really need your help please. I have a 2014 Kia forte with 2.0 gdi engine. And 3 weeks ago It started to make a knocking noise. I took it to the dealer. After the diagnosing they said it is engine failure my mechanic said it is rod knock. And the dealer asked me to bring the maintenance record. I did it and they denied it after send it to Kia because Kia said from the diagnosis Video which the dealer sent to kia the the problem is in the top of the engine and the dealer technician said it is bottom engine problem. I don’t know what to do. Now the car is at the dealer. I can’t afford to change the engine. Please help me with all you could. Advices,sources for information help me to fight it any thing. please 😂😂😂
Carl, I took my car to the dealership last week. They stated I have to pay 10k for a new engine. I have a 2016 kia, when the car comes to a stop, the vehicle shakes.I have the diagnostic from Parkway Kia. I need your help. How can I reach you?
You have to be persistent, they will try everything to get out of paying for the engine.
What if your kia dealership says this ksds update doesn't exist... I tried to get them to fix this and get this ksds update added and they told me there is no knock sensor recall even though I told them several times it needs to be done
Hi i have a 2015 kia hybrid EX a week ago i had 4 recall done on it. Now today the battery system warning light came on. Do you know whats that about? Does this have something to do with my engine or alternator? I sick of this car i live un sc i really want to trade the car in for something else. What car do you think i should get ?
Prob alt or battery. Not sure, Id have to check it out in person. Contact a local mechanic to look at it.
Hello Carl , I have a 2015 Hyundai Veloster and I was in the parking lot at work and had just started the engine and it was at idle for a few minutes when the engine just stopped and would not crank battery was brand new so I know that wasn’t the problem and that was about 3 weeks ago I than had it towed to the dealership and it’s just been sitting in there back lot they haven’t touched it because they said they are backed up tell August but I am worried that it might be that the engine locked up
I am the second owner I bought it when it only had 14,400 miles on it and now has 69,000 but the dealership sold it to me with 100,000 mile warranty plus I bought an extended warranty but they act like it doesn’t have any warranty since I am the second owner
I am not sure what I should do any ideals ? I am in Fort Worth Texas.
Gotta contact your local dealer and see if it has the ksds on it.
93,000 miles always used synthetic oil did every maintenance check up on time
HELP Please ❤
2012 Kia optima has 224,000 miles. They replaced engine under recall! Now they are saying I need the wire harness repaired for 900 hundred
dollars. My thing is that the wire harness was good prior to the repair job!
I will have to say that is wild they replaced it with that many miles.
Carl! I need your help! My 2014 Kia Optima engine just blew. I want to make sure I do it correctly!
Gotta call the dealership and make sure you have that ksds before you let them know your engine went out. Like mentioned in all my videos, no ksds no new motor
@@CarlsGarage I bought this car off a used lot 8 months ago. I’m not sure if the previous owner had this update done. The car will not start. What should I say to the dealership when I call in the morning?
@@CarlsGarage so if we don’t have the ksds then what
@@conniecain141 no ksds no new motor
Good evening, I have a 2017 Kia Optima and I already finish paying for it. Can I still go and get that recall? My car is using extra oil for the last year. I always have to put more oil in it after I get the oil change.
Do you know if there is a recall on this Kia for the oil problem?
Check out the video on my channel which answers your question. My opinion is get rid of the car asap while you still can
Question for you. I'm going through the same with my 2017 Hyundai Elantra Sport 1.6T. I got a case manager from Hyundai. Yet, they've told me being the second owner of the car that they will only pay 50% for a new engine. Which would be $3500 plus labor. IWhat else could I possibly do to not pay that asinine amount for an engine. Maintenance records were provided as well & this car is not daily for work with only 67500mi.
In the book there is a document from Hyundai with your car but its "GT". It still says "replace free of charge". So this sounds like a screw job.
Looked a little more, you have that inbetwen 1.6 motor. The 2.0 is fully covered. They agree to pay half cause its not really part of the recall. You still might be able to get it done or see if they will accept your car as a trade in. You are in a gray area.
Denied engine replacement on my 2014 Sportage still "covered" under factory warranty because did not get software. Done with Korean cars.
You can’t be denied! You definitely need the book: www.flashcustomtransfers.com/product/kiahyundaienginehandbook/265
@@CarlsGarage we have moved on. Sold car for 2000 and moved on. Thanks for getting the word out though. No one knows about this
My Kia Sorento fell under a class-action lawsuit therefore they could not legally ask for or require service/maintenance records to be submitted for proof of such.
All our cars fall under that lawsuit but that suit had been settled a few years ago. No ksds no engine replacement.
I got my engine replaced on one of my cars and getting another one replaced this week
What did dealer ask you for the second car?
@Jose Gomez as long as you have the kds update you are under warranty just make sure you keep all your oil change update and if you have any leaks make sure you fix them
@Jose Gomez I talked to the dealership and got it approved in 3 days but it took 8 weeks to get the car back
@@JoseGomez-zg3tm are you having problems with getting your engine replaced
@Jose Gomez stay on them they have to change it they just trying to be slick
My issue was burning 3.5 quarts in less than 1200 miles. Bad piston rings caused this problem
Oh sounds like you had the new piston ring recall issue.
Hello did Kia replace your engine?
@@juancarlossoriano6935 yes. They asked for all my maintenance records, I provided them all and finally after 2 months they replaced the engine.
My 2016 kia optima mess up yesterday they say the engine is out and I have to fix it myself
Don’t let them screw you over
Do you have one of these for Hyundai Sonata??
It applies to all Hyundai/Kia cars
So my 2011 Hyundai sonata engine blew right before Christmas and I was told the recall had expired
Yea that’s BS. You definitely need my book Try my book www.flashcustomtransfers.com/product/kiahyundaienginehandbook/265
I am about to buy a 2021 kia sportage with 17000 miles should i still or run?
Hell no, buy a toyota.
I just had my engine replaced recently and i would like to know if there is a possibility of the engine failing again
Yes
Did they bring up maintenance records?
Hello
I have a 2015 Optima with just over 100,000 miles on it. I am the second owner and never received the information for the KSDS Software update. Because it was considered an improvement, it was not listed on the VIN recalls. When I call customer care, they did not have any of my information, probably because I am a second owner.
The engine seized...smoked like crazy...and scared me to death. The dealer will not cover the replacement of the engine. What now?? Thank you
I mentioned this in many videos, all these cars have active recalls and are only found out by calling your local dealership, not by looking it up online.
Is there a part where it says reimbursement for towing?
I have a video on reimbursement. You might benefit from my book because it has so many videos and documents that answer your questions all in one place www.flashcustomtransfers.com/product/kiahyundaienginehandbook/265
My 2014 caught on fire last night while parked and burned up.
Just call your local Kia dealership and speak to the people in the service department. They replaced my engine, transmission, transfer case, and starter when my engine seized up.
I used Mark Martin here in Arkansas and they were awesome! I paid $66 for a belt and a filter but that was all.
Can’t believe I just bought my daughter a 2015 optima with 126k miles feels like it has a little ruff idle.well I guess I will be selling it if I can.
Yup
My car stopped on highway all lights went on power steering locked up. I was in the fast lane. Omg I was so scared
2014 KIA Soul engine blew about 5 miles after the software update. The car has been parked at the dealer since 2021 because it's too far away from our home to have it towed back. Dealer denied our claim even though the software had just been installed. We have a stack of maintenance records and the only time we went a little longer than usual for an oil change was because services were hard to find during the spring of 2020. Since the latest settlement has come down and we received the paperwork I've been back in touch with the dealership to have it fixed. We could not trade out of it, we could not afford the engine replacement, and we could not afford to have the car towed home. The closest dealership is more than 120 miles away. Our local Hyundai dealership refused to handle the original recall forcing us to go far away. Everything is still up in the air with it and we still owe money one it. This has been an absolute nightmare! Every time I see a Kia I want to leave a note on their car and warn them to prepare. I hope we're on the right track now, but this video makes me wonder. If they've stopped selling these cars in their own country of origin, how can we get them to stop selling them here??????????
Gotta try different dealerships in your state and other states. Kia has it on lock and they have abandoned all ICE cars as they move forward with electric
Whoah! My 2013 Kia blew a week or so after the update! I didn’t think that had anything to do with it. Crazy! I paid for a rebuild, myself. It’s now stalling a couple years later. Anything left for me to do??
@@CarlsGarage
Even if they replace the engine,are they gonna put the same theta 2 engine back in it so it can fail again?Or,did they fix the problem with a better engine?
Is the Kia 3.3 engine I this recall ?
Nope
I'm the original owner of my 17 Sportage, it's been burning oil and just locked up this week. I brought it straight to Kia and am awaiting their call. I never knew about the KSDS update and never had it performed. Am I screwed?
Yea without the ksds you’re screwed. That’s how they get people
That should be criminal!
Just as an update, I brought my 17 Sportage (88K mikes) in and told them that my Vin was eligible for the Theta II class action lawsuit and that I was seeking engine repair due to the recall. Even though I didn't have the KSDS update installed, they agreed to a full long block replacement covered entirely under warranty. They are going to install the KSDS update and I will have a lifetime warranty going forward including future engine replacements. They even set me up with a rental for the entirety of the repair, which is currently at a month and a half now. Just letting ya'll know that this has a good outcome, hopefully Kia will continue to treat others this way going forward.
@@ezeepeezy congratulations!!! I have the Ksds in my car, but the closest appointment they gave me was two weeks from now for a diagnosis, did they do a diagnosis in yours?
I have one more piece of information to add about my previous comment. The $3200 the dealer is trying to charge me for is only for replacement of the catalytic converter. The underlying problem of the engine was not addressed. I haven't paid them anything yet. However, I've made multiple attempts to call the person responsible for the estimate at the dealer service center and he seems to be ducking me.
Call different kia or hyundai dealerships. Gotta stay on them. Call 5 different ones in your state.
@@CarlsGarage thank you.
Your catalytic converter likely was damaged by the additional oil burned in the combustion chamber due to the failed rings allowing oil to blow by and out your exhaust manifold, and subsequently into your catalytic converter. the Converter is designed to burn unused FUEL not additional OIL. This is absolutely a result of the ring issue.
I've now brought my 2014 Kia SOUL (134k miles) with a failed engine complaining about the SC176 recall damage. I ran the diagnostics on my own OBDII reader which had multiple codes including the P0420 cat code. The first Kia dealer updated the software and then told us that the engine was blown and that it had nothing to do with the recall. They then cleared all of the codes and told me that a remanufactured engine would be $6700. If I didn't want to pay for it I had 24 hours to get the car out of their parking lot. After I took the car back (towed home) the P0420 mysteriously never reappeared. I called another dealer and they agreed to look at it. When we had it towed there, the person at the desk said that the mileage in Kia's maintenance system did not match what's on the ODO. She said that someone had gone into Kia's system to 161000 miles - but she's looking at the ODO and it's 137k. She went into the Kia system and corrected it. She then told us that they would honor the recall but it would take months because there are so many of these to fix. I told them no problem and I bought my daughter another car so she could get to work. Five months later, the second dealer is now telling me that the problem is an injector and he wants to sell me one. I told him no, that it should be covered with the engine. What are my options?
Your story sounds like mine. The dealer claimed it wasn't giving the right codes (nothing in the recall notice about codes) even though our 2014 Soul engine blew right after leaving the dealership following the KSDS recall. We don't have the tools to check the codes ourselves and there are only a handful of Kia dealerships in our whole state so we've been in a holding pattern for 2yrs. and our car is still at the dealership. The dealership also said it would cost around 7k to replace the engine. We're still paying on this vehicle :(
@@melodyirish7254 I’m wondering what kind of disincentives KIA is exercising over the dealers to make them act this way.
Does this include the 2017 forte?
Yup
Dam I was going to look at a 2017 forte tomorrow
Our Kia has started to burn oil. I’m adding in between oil changes done every 4000 miles instead of the 5000 intervals. Our Kia Rio EX 2015 has 105.130. I just left a Local Dealership in Van Nuys California as I got done HECU FUSE RECALL. I informed them about the consumption oil. I was told that as I’m out of warranty my car is not covered by the recall and that they charge $350 to diagnosed the reason of oil consumption. He told me to not pay $350:00 because I’m not cover
Sounds weird and fishy the response provided. I’m wondering about that update as Kia has never sent to my home any notice about the KSDS update (I imagine they don’t have to). If you can provide any assistance let me know. I will appreciate. This Kia is my wife’s car and I was bought used in 2017. So far it has been a very good car. Regular maintenance and no breakdowns.
And can you please guide me before I going to buy 2016 kia optima ex 2.4 L driven 220000 km in 6 and half years, still there no recall in history, it's looks like totally new, price is also good with to year transmission warranty. One owner, dealer said we give car seafty certificate, like engine oil, breaks etc.
I love this car.
Bro what you suggest should I buy or not.
And what's the age of this car remaining.
Thanks.
All kia's from 09 - 2023 have recalls. Regardless of what it says online. You check recalls at the dealership, not online. My advice is dont buy it.
Thanks for advice
My 2012 Kia Optima Engine was blown on the highway. When I towed the car to the nearest car shop, I was told the engine needed to be replaced and I was also told by the mechanic that the engine might be covered under recall. He called the Kia dealer for me and now my car is in Kia dealer. I'm waiting for them to finish the diagnosis of my car and get back to me. Hope they replace the engine.
Me too
Got an update?
So I can bring my Kia to a Hyundai dealership?
Where can I get that pamphlet?
When they decide to send it to you. Might be able to find it online. I include it in my book but you would have to buy my book.
Can you still get a replacement with over 200000 miles on it???
If you have the ksds yes but it depends on the dealership
Cool. I can slap a BMW badge on my KIA and wont notice a difference.
Had my car shaking on the highway and engine light on. Took it to autozone, it read cylinder 2 is misfiring, which lead me to take it to the dealership. Kia Dealership is saying it is a burnt valve and does not pertain to the warranty or lawsuit and therefore I dont qualify for an engine replacement. They are requesting a new engine be put in because just replacing the valve is not a guarantee. HAHAAH, IS THIS NOT ENGINE FAILURE OR NOT? LOL
So my car has already been seen and denied by one Kia dealership, will this affect my chances if I take it to another local Kia Dealership?
Wow that’s bullshit, wasn’t that damaged by the engine recall? My car is doing the same misfiring they say it’s the sparks plugs. Although spark plugs have been changed Andre weeks ago.
@@juancarlossoriano6935 I ended up taking it to another kia dealership and they were so much more helpful. Waiting to hear back from them, but they assured me they would do everything they could. The customer service was amazing. The other dealership just didnt want to help whatsoever
My kia optimal 2012
Might want to get my book and the ksds. Your engine is part of the recall.
You are the third freaking owner of that car if they are willing to replace it at 160,000 miles I'd say that is unbelievable. Do you have all the service records?
1... i dont own it anymore. I have a Lexus RX350. 2! I was the 2nd owner not the 3rd. 3! I had the ksds from Beck and Masten Kia so I was covered if my cars engine did go out but because they can only replace it when it goes out (which can only happen while driving), I got rid of it before that could happen.