Ok . how much did you charge this customer, and how much time did you waste when trying to do a 'repair' on something which couldn't be guaranteed . And you filmed it all and posted it because your trying to 'teach people' lol
Top man,very few engineers like you’re self who dont waffle and you makes decent contents. Ive liked your video due to the nature of your honesty. Keep it up buddy
Get video. I've done it the other way with fuel pump pliers. I didn't take the div valve out, the pliers brake the tabs then i used a pair of needle nose to take out the cartridge. The tabs can be a bit hard to brake but it works just fine .
I worked on this kit at British Gas Xsol, it’s not a bad kit to be fair, I found that the blue clips tended to wear after about 3 or 4 swaps, an alternative I used was a pair of fuel line pliers to snap the cartridge lugs and then needle nose pliers to remove the cartridge, then you can use whoever sells the cheaper cartridge. Cheaper repair and unfortunate the recall happened, great tip on the slot as well😉
Don’t think Vaillant are too happy about it😆 it saved BG about £75 per repair, and they swapped over 5000 diverters in 2016. Not sure where you would stand on warranties, but it’s a great fix👍🏻
I will say 😂 great video 👍 really helpfull. used one of these to replace divy valve exactly like you showed after fitting no leaks but only top floor rads getting hot which no amount of balancing could fix 🤷♂️
Good video, shows your experience another way to fix the problem. I normally change the diverter valve but if you can fix it then why not. Slight rust doesn't matter as long as there aren't any holes that can affect the room seal.
Just did this, couldn’t get the cable tie to work on brass valve so just broke the tabs from inside with a screwdriver. Easy steps after that. Pin was corroded on previous one. £30 job, was quote £400 for a new brass valve. Time will tell if it was a success but all looks ok after 2 days.
Nice one , i buy from the same guy on e bay and ive fitted about 10 up to now and touch wood have not had any issues with them leaking , if your going to fit a lot of these get yourself a pair of the cranked long reach grips from e bay ( about £ 15 ) and they make the job a lot easier... cheers
Umar K ......yes , I used to use the plastic clamp before finding this tool and it makes the job so much easier....👍 There is a company on eBay I think it's called ( partsdaddyuk ) sorry no link and they sell them for about £ 7 , I think they call them a fuel line clamp ,
I think everyone is different we all have to make choices based on what we see on site. Personally I'd change the whole DV assembly. Had enough call backs through trying to repair so thats what i always do now. But as i say we're all different and have to make our own choices, as there are so many factors at play. Also from a customer relations point of view and with experience I always get the customer to look at the state of the boiler, always make them aware that once one thing goes its possible others will follow.
That boiler has been fine with the second cartridge in it. I have just fitted one of these in my mum boiler. Full, in the family test. :-). I work on a lot of contracts and how I fix boilers varies depending on how the pay works. Unfortunately, I cant always replace the whole part. :-)
@@HeatingGeekisnt it just as easy to change the whole divertor and housing rather than the cartridge also which model vaillant combi is this please mate? Thanks
@@HeatingGeek looks like i need my second one in 13 years now lol I read years ago they were known common problems on them. It seems to be dirt on seat again same as when first one failed would seem it collects there for whaatever reason (dirty system water probably) can't they be repaired/ cleaned or refurbished somehow and put back into use once this happens mate?
You guys fitting non OME parts have big balls, I personally won't take the risk, with my clients money or my time. I was particularly interested to watch this as I've got a sweating DV on a clients 837 " to do" and after watching and reading the comments I've not changed my opinion. Great vid and comments as usual .thanks
As other people have said - the first clampy thing is a bit useless - small flat bladed screwdriver in from the front under the tip of the lugs and twist to snap the old lug off (quite brittle plastic) - then long nose pliers to spin it a bit to break it loose - then long nose pliers again pull on the spindle with a good tug.
Good video as usual! I presume they are not genuine manufacturers parts. I did a Baxi diverter valve rebuild using a kit that costed about £19 & it started leaking from the stuffing gland & passing in less than a year. The water quality of the system seemed to be ok.
Exactly what happened to me used the same kit and it started leaking after 2-3 months water was really bad ended up changing the boiler that’s why I always change the whole diverted valve on them now
Salman .....I always give the customer the choice of doing this repair or replacing the whole valve with a recon unit , and I do tell them that it may leak again in the future so that way I cover myself if it leaks , it's all down to the cost of the repair and a lot go for the cheaper option of just replacing the cartridge....👍
Better of just changing the cartridge rather than the whole valve if the system isn't going to be flushed because the same will happen to both but the cartridge is cheaper.
Ah man, you flow like a bubble bee, keep up the good honest, quality work, this is how good honest methodical engineers should be of this standard, but caution on the tester prongs not too exposed and just want to mention my old man use to descale the old ascots going back almost 40 years ago using pure vinegar he use to always attain from my uncles chippy back in the days he use to take out the old time not sure of the name but was basically the heat exchanger, and fill up with the chippy vinegar leave for 24hrs and following day you see all the scale dissolved, may be even couple cans of coke does the job bit more environmentally friendly lol. Anyway, continue the good works. God bless.
Excellent explanation. Did you know you can just replace the tiny O ring that is the seal to the spindle. It's a bit fiddly to get the metal washer to slide out sideways but then straightforward. It appears to be an R-01 O-ring: 3.15mm internal diameter x 1.8mm cross section. I'll let you know if it leaks.
I fitted the repaired diverter yesterday in which I changed the "O" ring. The tabs were broken off and I refitted using large cable clips wedged in the two holes where the tabs were. All working fine and no leak from the spindle. Even cheaper than putting in the new valve assembly in!
I know it's an old video but I've just come across it whilst looking for feedback on this type of kit. Did you decide it was a good solution rather than change the whole diverter ? Any more issues after the 1st one leaked a couple weeks after fitting? Thanks
Yes. I did. For more cost sensitive customers. Also they have upgraded the kit so you can service it every year with a new seal for cheap. Buycombi have sent me the new type but I didn't get a chance to use it yet.
Hello Mate, you've got another Patron, I really do think your efforts in creating this videos deserve a bit of appreciation. Those little tips are priceless, I'm fairly new in the game myself and it's nice to give something back. Hopefully with your help I can soon up my game and maybe move up with my membership. Keep up good work, always a pleasure to watch your vids.
Clicked on your link - scodes nothing happens unless I sign up to this other web 101domain which I did but still a bit lost - there's nothing there. When you get a chance Mate, nothing major.
You can now buy a brass version of this cartridge which looks a lot more robust and it has the added benefit of a replaceable double o ring piston gland so if ever it leaks you can just replace the gland , a great idea I think , valve is £ 22 and replaceable gland £ 8 from eBay.....👍
HeatingGeek, your content is always interesting. Personally I like the combi boiler repairs as I’m relatively new to the game, so anything boiler related always helps. But keep it varied for all your subs 👍👍👍
I generally drill a small hole in the plate where water collects in these Vaillants. Then the owner notices the leak as soon as it starts rather than when there's 8mm of water swimming around and everything goes rusty! And before someone says it stops it being airtight: it isn't airtight anyway, which is why the water finally drips out!
Thanks. I think it only works in dollars though???? I only just finished sorting that stuff out. Very hard to use. Thanks for signing up hopefully you can use the info??? :-)
I had the same issue these cartridges are rubbish 1st and last i was ever going to do it, customers going to pay for the part so i don't really see point of going through the hassle just fit a new diverter valve.
@@HeatingGeek Hi Olly, 7/10 for the intro, with captions and music you are moving in the right direction, 10/10 for the entertainment and info, it is a pleasure to watch your vids, just signed up to your patreon. Cheers Buddy! Kind regards Gonzy
Why are you here Benjamin..?.......Are you just here to be a hater ???? If you don't like what he does on here you can always watch something else on You Tube !
its so corroded. that boiler isn't wotth spending 50 quid on . Think before hand
I would happily put that boiler in my house. Looks bad but is solid.
@Jonny Mosquito Strawman at Large Very true. Keep them on the wall. :-)
lol
Ok . how much did you charge this customer, and how much time did you waste when trying to do a 'repair' on something which couldn't be guaranteed . And you filmed it all and posted it because your trying to 'teach people' lol
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Top man,very few engineers like you’re self who dont waffle and you makes decent contents. Ive liked your video due to the nature of your honesty. Keep it up buddy
Thank you. :-) Be back to it soon.
Seen a few of these but this one was the best yet that describes exactly what the release tool does
Get video. I've done it the other way with fuel pump pliers. I didn't take the div valve out, the pliers brake the tabs then i used a pair of needle nose to take out the cartridge. The tabs can be a bit hard to brake but it works just fine .
I worked on this kit at British Gas Xsol, it’s not a bad kit to be fair, I found that the blue clips tended to wear after about 3 or 4 swaps, an alternative I used was a pair of fuel line pliers to snap the cartridge lugs and then needle nose pliers to remove the cartridge, then you can use whoever sells the cheaper cartridge. Cheaper repair and unfortunate the recall happened, great tip on the slot as well😉
Thanks. I think these will be done nearly every time soon. Its just so cost effective. We will see about the longevity of them.
Don’t think Vaillant are too happy about it😆 it saved BG about £75 per repair, and they swapped over 5000 diverters in 2016. Not sure where you would stand on warranties, but it’s a great fix👍🏻
I will say 😂 great video 👍 really helpfull. used one of these to replace divy valve exactly like you showed
after fitting no leaks but only top floor rads getting hot which no amount of balancing could fix 🤷♂️
Good video, shows your experience another way to fix the problem. I normally change the diverter valve but if you can fix it then why not. Slight rust doesn't matter as long as there aren't any holes that can affect the room seal.
Just did this, couldn’t get the cable tie to work on brass valve so just broke the tabs from inside with a screwdriver. Easy steps after that. Pin was corroded on previous one. £30 job, was quote £400 for a new brass valve. Time will tell if it was a success but all looks ok after 2 days.
Nice one , i buy from the same guy on e bay and ive fitted about 10 up to now and touch wood have not had any issues with them leaking , if your going to fit a lot of these get yourself a pair of the cranked long reach grips from e bay ( about £ 15 ) and they make the job a lot easier...
cheers
I have them but haven't used them yet.
@yensabi Are the plier grip things good in your opinion?
Umar K ......yes , I used to use the plastic clamp before finding this tool and it makes the job so much easier....👍
There is a company on eBay I think it's called ( partsdaddyuk ) sorry no link and they sell them for about £ 7 , I think they call them a fuel line clamp ,
@@yensabi Thanks mate. You saved me a few £. I was gonna buy the exact same ones titled Vaillant diverter removal tool for £19. Appreciated 👍🏽
I think everyone is different we all have to make choices based on what we see on site. Personally I'd change the whole DV assembly. Had enough call backs through trying to repair so thats what i always do now. But as i say we're all different and have to make our own choices, as there are so many factors at play. Also from a customer relations point of view and with experience I always get the customer to look at the state of the boiler, always make them aware that once one thing goes its possible others will follow.
That boiler has been fine with the second cartridge in it. I have just fitted one of these in my mum boiler. Full, in the family test. :-). I work on a lot of contracts and how I fix boilers varies depending on how the pay works. Unfortunately, I cant always replace the whole part. :-)
That was quality content as ever. Thank you Ollie.❤
My pleasure! Thanks for commenting. :-) It all helps
Good video for learners
That fault was caused by a spec of debris, new boilers are whimps
Nice work fella
Yep
@@HeatingGeekisnt it just as easy to change the whole divertor and housing rather than the cartridge also which model vaillant combi is this please mate? Thanks
@@garylawton7254 Its just as easy both ways. The cartridge is much cheaper though
@@HeatingGeek looks like i need my second one in 13 years now lol I read years ago they were known common problems on them. It seems to be dirt on seat again same as when first one failed would seem it collects there for whaatever reason (dirty system water probably) can't they be repaired/ cleaned or refurbished somehow and put back into use once this happens mate?
@@garylawton7254 Thats what these repair kits do.:-)
You guys fitting non OME parts have big balls, I personally won't take the risk, with my clients money or my time. I was particularly interested to watch this as I've got a sweating DV on a clients 837 " to do" and after watching and reading the comments I've not changed my opinion. Great vid and comments as usual .thanks
I know what you mean. Im still not sure. I will fit ten and make up my mind. :-)
Great video again ✔️
I need a bit of advice which clear silicone grease which would you recommend to use on bath tap ceramic disc plz thnx..
I need waterproof grease also o ring freindly where to purchase it from thnx.
@@adamsala9291 Silicone grease amzn.to/2Rnls4F This is the one I use. Its expensive but very thick. They do smaller tubs and tubes too.
Just did the patreon fing, happy to chip a bit in to share the love.
Thanks you very much. I just got through all that stuff. I will be working on the D codes next i think. Thanks for your support It means a lot. :-)
As other people have said - the first clampy thing is a bit useless - small flat bladed screwdriver in from the front under the tip of the lugs and twist to snap the old lug off (quite brittle plastic) - then long nose pliers to spin it a bit to break it loose - then long nose pliers again pull on the spindle with a good tug.
Could work. I Have the other tool for them too. Not sure how good it will be.
Good video as usual! I presume they are not genuine manufacturers parts. I did a Baxi diverter valve rebuild using a kit that costed about £19 & it started leaking from the stuffing gland & passing in less than a year. The water quality of the system seemed to be ok.
Im not sure because BG use this so it must be the same quality.
Exactly what happened to me used the same kit and it started leaking after 2-3 months water was really bad ended up changing the boiler that’s why I always change the whole diverted valve on them now
Unfortunately only time will tell. I can't comment yet about the next one. We will see and I will update here.
Salman .....I always give the customer the choice of doing this repair or replacing the whole valve with a recon unit , and I do tell them that it may leak again in the future so that way I cover myself if it leaks , it's all down to the cost of the repair and a lot go for the cheaper option of just replacing the cartridge....👍
@@yensabi I would fit this kit in my house. Thats how I look at stuff. I would also fit this for my mum. :-) Its a very simple way to sum things up.
Better of just changing the cartridge rather than the whole valve if the system isn't going to be flushed because the same will happen to both but the cartridge is cheaper.
@@RobinsonHeating Thats a good point. :-)
Great video i learned so much just starting out on repairs.
Its a long and never-ending road of learning, to fix boilers.
I have seen them kits ' but Will now try it as well. Great video again.
Make sure you push the tabs out!! :-)
Another top video Oli.. Big fan here, Soti
Thanks. That isn't one of my best but its done and there. Thank you for watching. :-)
Very helpful videos. Your a pop star, mate
Pop star. :-)
Ah man, you flow like a bubble bee, keep up the good honest, quality work, this is how good honest methodical engineers should be of this standard, but caution on the tester prongs not too exposed and just want to mention my old man use to descale the old ascots going back almost 40 years ago using pure vinegar he use to always attain from my uncles chippy back in the days he use to take out the old time not sure of the name but was basically the heat exchanger, and fill up with the chippy vinegar leave for 24hrs and following day you see all the scale dissolved, may be even couple cans of coke does the job bit more environmentally friendly lol. Anyway, continue the good works. God bless.
Thanks. Im trying. ;-)
Excellent explanation. Did you know you can just replace the tiny O ring that is the seal to the spindle. It's a bit fiddly to get the metal washer to slide out sideways but then straightforward. It appears to be an R-01 O-ring: 3.15mm internal diameter x 1.8mm cross section. I'll let you know if it leaks.
YOUR the hole driller. :-)
I fitted the repaired diverter yesterday in which I changed the "O" ring. The tabs were broken off and I refitted using large cable clips wedged in the two holes where the tabs were. All working fine and no leak from the spindle. Even cheaper than putting in the new valve assembly in!
Didn't realise I was logged in differently. I'm also Strawberrythief
@@LewishamPpleB4Profit What if the cable ties let go????
I know it's an old video but I've just come across it whilst looking for feedback on this type of kit. Did you decide it was a good solution rather than change the whole diverter ? Any more issues after the 1st one leaked a couple weeks after fitting?
Thanks
Yes. I did. For more cost sensitive customers. Also they have upgraded the kit so you can service it every year with a new seal for cheap. Buycombi have sent me the new type but I didn't get a chance to use it yet.
Hello Mate, you've got another Patron, I really do think your efforts in creating this videos deserve a bit of appreciation. Those little tips are priceless, I'm fairly new in the game myself and it's nice to give something back. Hopefully with your help I can soon up my game and maybe move up with my membership. Keep up good work, always a pleasure to watch your vids.
Thanks you very much! I just sent you the S.Codes and a message on Patreon. I do appreciate it.
Clicked on your link - scodes nothing happens unless I sign up to this other web 101domain which I did but still a bit lost - there's nothing there. When you get a chance Mate, nothing major.
@@piotrserafin9728 I have sent again. No other sign up needed. Its a PDF.
Great video keep doing
Top video again.Timing ? Is it quicker than the full diverted swap ?
I like the kit and think it will be quicker when anyone has done a few. Took me 45 min first time with filming and 25 second time round.
You can now buy a brass version of this cartridge which looks a lot more robust and it has the added benefit of a replaceable double o ring piston gland so if ever it leaks you can just replace the gland , a great idea I think , valve is £ 22 and replaceable gland £ 8 from eBay.....👍
I didn't know that was out. How does the tabs lock in if it's brass?
Not sure , on the photo of it there is a plastic cir-clip that comes with it , that must lock it in some how...?
@@yensabi Ah ok. I haven't seen them. :-)
Can I get a link to this product please ? cheers
Just become a Patreon, thanks for all the videos 👍👍👍
Regards Stu.
Thanks for supporting me. I only just sat down and sorted that out. Cant believe the time. Sorry for the late reply. :-) Thanks again.
Is there anything you think I should get a video of?
HeatingGeek, your content is always interesting.
Personally I like the combi boiler repairs as I’m relatively new to the game, so anything boiler related always helps.
But keep it varied for all your subs 👍👍👍
@@themadhatter4761 Ok no problem.
Thank you 👍❤️
Hi.
Where I can buy this repertuar valve?
Would you say that was easier than a new DV ?
yes
Did this a few times and popped out after a couple days.
I think you have to be sure about the tabs. None of mine popped out yet.
Great video👌Thanks!
Glad you like it. :-) Thanks for watching.
Great instruction
Thanks for watching :-)
Thanks for video
Most welcome
I generally drill a small hole in the plate where water collects in these Vaillants. Then the owner notices the leak as soon as it starts rather than when there's 8mm of water swimming around and everything goes rusty! And before someone says it stops it being airtight: it isn't airtight anyway, which is why the water finally drips out!
You mean water tight
Hello mate happy to support you. Why is it in dollars though ? 😂
No idea. Isn't that normal for patreon? I think it is.:-)
Il sign up shortly mate. Thanks for the work you do
Signed up for patreon, weird its in dollars though.
Thanks. I think it only works in dollars though???? I only just finished sorting that stuff out. Very hard to use. Thanks for signing up hopefully you can use the info??? :-)
@@HeatingGeek Hi I signed up also is there any videos on there and if so where Thanks
@@gason6175 The Videos are here. You can message me if you need something specific. I have replied to you on Patreon too.
HeatingGeek yep, I'll use the pdfs,
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I had the same issue these cartridges are rubbish 1st and last i was ever going to do it, customers going to pay for the part so i don't really see point of going through the hassle just fit a new diverter valve.
Ps nice job
Thanks. :-)
you can purchase ? this kit. This link
Nice Intro
What bit did you like? I liked the music tbh. Glad I found a place to get royalty free music.
@@HeatingGeek Hi Olly, 7/10 for the intro, with captions and music you are moving in the right direction, 10/10 for the entertainment and info, it is a pleasure to watch your vids, just signed up to your patreon. Cheers Buddy! Kind regards Gonzy
@@gonzalomartinez1630 Thanks. I sent you the bits over. :-) Thank you very much. :-)
Gas pipe rots in the water tray when the water has been leaking for a while.
faulty replacement part.
not the water.
Maybe,
How comes it's in dollars not pounds per month???
American company???? Maybe? Im not sure but I cant change it. :-)
The suspense is over...
There was no suspense. You didn't even watch it yet!!!
@@HeatingGeek lol. You got me. What you reckon of the plier type removal tool from eBay?
@@umark6695 I have it but haven't used it yet!!! I will let you know. :-)
@@HeatingGeek kwl. I'll wait for your opinion before I buy it.
Traduzione
what is your aim here?
Don't know. Whats yours?
Why are you here Benjamin..?.......Are you just here to be a hater ????
If you don't like what he does on here you can always watch something else on You Tube !
@@paulkramer2599 I think he just doesnt think boilers in that condition should be fixed. Maybe he will explain his position?
@@HeatingGeek another very useful clip mate can I ask why you didn't just replace the entire diverter valve body complete cheers?
@@garylawton7254 Cost. 20v120 :-)