So far, I am doing okay with my Crossfire 1400 rangefinder. Rather than using it to range an animal, I range a landmark in the target zone. Then, I use my Diamondback 12X50 binos to scan for activity and ensure that what looks like an antler is actually a broken tree branch. That a flipping thing is a leaf and not an ear. Other's mileage may vary. Whatever suits you, I say. A person close to me now uses rangefinder binos and prefers that device.
This is one of a couple of topics I never have to decide on. I only have one eye so binoculars don't do me any good. However I still watched the video because I enjoy your videos.
I purchased the fury. The hand held for bow hunting. Rifle spot and stalk Binos with handheld backup. The fury’s are just as good or better than my vipers as far as optics.
I have not looked through a FURY VTX bino but is this a discussion of VTX Mono vs Bino or a discussion of Mono vs Bino as to which is better regardless of the maker. I don't know how the FURYs stack up to the Zeiss, Leica Geovid (I have the HD-B 3000), Swarovski has a set, the Nikon LaserForce, Steiner, etc. I don't know where the VTX FURY ranks in there and I am sure that ALL give a bit of clarity to the inclusion of a MONO but a great top end bino is not going to give up much to a Monocular. Hunting inside of 50yds, the Mono is all that is needed for ranging and deciding if it is a shooter, out to 100+ then the advantage of magnification might be in order for glassing and dissecting size so maybe both but 200yds+ I'll just take a good set of top tier ranging Binos and leave the Monos behind. That is just the side of the fence upon which I sit. Oh, and technology is bringing range finding scopes to rifles used for hunting and not just for the military. Weight and bulk are coming down and the price for quality glass, optic and performance is coming down out of the stratosphere. Maybe in a couple more years.
It would be nice if the non balistic versions would also bluetooth range info to a Kestrel w/ballistics. I already have a Kestrel w/AB but it is just missing range info. If I buy the rangefinder to relay the info to the kestrel, I have to get one that already has ballistic software in it so I don't need a Kestrel. But I already have it.
What I’ve heard is that range finding technology generally advances faster than binocular tech, and therefore combining the two into a single product means that half the functionality of that product will lag behind the best available tech, at least more so than the other half. Take it with a grain of salt, but worth considering.
Binoculars have existed for so long, that all advancements have been made, and now we are seeing the effort made to surpass those final %. Rangefinders on the other hand haven't had as long to develop, so of course any advancement will seem like a huge upgrade from previous versions.
I have a Leica monocular style that I like well enough but I’m looking to upgrade to a binocular style simply for the stability while using it. Also in bright snowy situations it’s impossible to read the display which I think is bullshit… Anyway I’m very interested in what you’ve got to offer!
Things are so good these days, I would take todays tech and use it until it dies. I gave both, use both and enjoy both. There is no reason to upgrade with every rendition. You give up something with any combo unit. But you also lose something when using mono. It’s situational and also preference. Just enjoy the tech as it is, don’t try to make one the other
Love the content I am interested to know I hunt in WY and all I carry is a razor hd4000 mono x9 rangefinder and my hi power black Dimond tactical rifle scope What am I really giving up by not carrying a bino or spotting scope besides weight
Appreciate it! Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation! Glassing and being comfortable behind a pair of binos or spotter is a big advantage rather than having to be shouldered with your rifle/pointing it as things you maybe shouldn't be or looking through a tiny lens of a rangefinder. Not necessarily what your "giving up" rather, you may be missing out on some advantages with those observation optics! If you have any questions on any binos or spotters let us know! Happy to help.
Yeah not a thumbs up or a thumbs down but just moot on this pod cast. In my opinion, monoculars are best at 1000ft - 1200ft and under ranges. Binoculars are better for mid to long ranges. What ever you use non range finders for you would use range finder version's for.
Buy a good bino and that can last a lifetime. Rangefinder life has electronics and may go down. Why upgrade a good bino just because electronics need upgraded. Separate components are better for hunting.
This discussion was very helpful!
I would say use the smaller monocular for bow hunts and closer range.. but I love my fury's for long range.
I learned something new. Interesting topic.
Gotta love Mark’s enthusiasm, it’s contagious.
Thanks so much for tuning in, Brad! Glad to hear you enjoyed the episode!
So far, I am doing okay with my Crossfire 1400 rangefinder. Rather than using it to range an animal, I range a landmark in the target zone. Then, I use my Diamondback 12X50 binos to scan for activity and ensure that what looks like an antler is actually a broken tree branch. That a flipping thing is a leaf and not an ear.
Other's mileage may vary. Whatever suits you, I say. A person close to me now uses rangefinder binos and prefers that device.
This is one of a couple of topics I never have to decide on. I only have one eye so binoculars don't do me any good. However I still watched the video because I enjoy your videos.
We appreciate you tuning in! Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation 🤜 🤛
I purchased the fury. The hand held for bow hunting. Rifle spot and stalk Binos with handheld backup. The fury’s are just as good or better than my vipers as far as optics.
I like having good binos and a good rangefinder. If you bust or lose one, you have the optics in the other so you always have a spare optic.
You make a great point, my friend!
Literally just bought a fury 5000 so stoked to get it
Heck yeah! Let us know how you like it!
i don't say "handheld rangefinder" - I just say "rangefinder"
I have not looked through a FURY VTX bino but is this a discussion of VTX Mono vs Bino or a discussion of Mono vs Bino as to which is better regardless of the maker. I don't know how the FURYs stack up to the Zeiss, Leica Geovid (I have the HD-B 3000), Swarovski has a set, the Nikon LaserForce, Steiner, etc. I don't know where the VTX FURY ranks in there and I am sure that ALL give a bit of clarity to the inclusion of a MONO but a great top end bino is not going to give up much to a Monocular. Hunting inside of 50yds, the Mono is all that is needed for ranging and deciding if it is a shooter, out to 100+ then the advantage of magnification might be in order for glassing and dissecting size so maybe both but 200yds+ I'll just take a good set of top tier ranging Binos and leave the Monos behind. That is just the side of the fence upon which I sit.
Oh, and technology is bringing range finding scopes to rifles used for hunting and not just for the military. Weight and bulk are coming down and the price for quality glass, optic and performance is coming down out of the stratosphere. Maybe in a couple more years.
It would be nice if the non balistic versions would also bluetooth range info to a Kestrel w/ballistics. I already have a Kestrel w/AB but it is just missing range info. If I buy the rangefinder to relay the info to the kestrel, I have to get one that already has ballistic software in it so I don't need a Kestrel. But I already have it.
What I’ve heard is that range finding technology generally advances faster than binocular tech, and therefore combining the two into a single product means that half the functionality of that product will lag behind the best available tech, at least more so than the other half. Take it with a grain of salt, but worth considering.
Binoculars have existed for so long, that all advancements have been made, and now we are seeing the effort made to surpass those final %. Rangefinders on the other hand haven't had as long to develop, so of course any advancement will seem like a huge upgrade from previous versions.
Hey Vortex, why stop at bingos? I’d like to see a spotting scope/ rangefinder combo. Make it happen.
I have a Leica monocular style that I like well enough but I’m looking to upgrade to a binocular style simply for the stability while using it. Also in bright snowy situations it’s impossible to read the display which I think is bullshit…
Anyway I’m very interested in what you’ve got to offer!
Things are so good these days, I would take todays tech and use it until it dies. I gave both, use both and enjoy both. There is no reason to upgrade with every rendition. You give up something with any combo unit. But you also lose something when using mono. It’s situational and also preference. Just enjoy the tech as it is, don’t try to make one the other
Why not put laser in the scope? Or a non see through laser that mounts on the side of the rifle on a mlock?
Love the content
I am interested to know
I hunt in WY and all I carry is a razor hd4000 mono x9 rangefinder and my hi power black Dimond tactical rifle scope
What am I really giving up by not carrying a bino or spotting scope besides weight
Appreciate it! Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation! Glassing and being comfortable behind a pair of binos or spotter is a big advantage rather than having to be shouldered with your rifle/pointing it as things you maybe shouldn't be or looking through a tiny lens of a rangefinder. Not necessarily what your "giving up" rather, you may be missing out on some advantages with those observation optics! If you have any questions on any binos or spotters let us know! Happy to help.
do a cartridge talk on the 8.6 blackout !!
You betcha! We'll get that on our list for sure!
Great discussion, just seems as though the host had a hard time driving the conversation.
2 is 1 one is none if something goes wrong.
What about range finder rifle scopes? Your new military model has them, what about civilian versions?
Yeah not a thumbs up or a thumbs down but just moot on this pod cast. In my opinion, monoculars are best at 1000ft - 1200ft and under ranges. Binoculars are better for mid to long ranges. What ever you use non range finders for you would use range finder version's for.
I'm completely blind. Do you offer an auditory range finder hearing aid combo?
Buy a good bino and that can last a lifetime. Rangefinder life has electronics and may go down. Why upgrade a good bino just because electronics need upgraded. Separate components are better for hunting.
Every one talking about binoculars quality but monocular rangefinder is total garbage in quality of glass and sight