FORD Superduty - Rear Axle Fluid Change | EASY TO DO at HOME | What AXLE do YOU have?? *WATCH THIS*
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- Thinking about changing out that nasty rear end fluid???? Tonight we show you how to do that and we go over the axle packages that you would have on your truck & WHAT fluid yours takes. Lets get the correct information to you so that your fleet, your tow pig, your pavement queen can have the BEST fluids rolling down the road. Thanks THANKS so much for watching each weeks episode, means a lot. Remember to LIKE - COMMENT - SUB - SHARE Catch ya on the LIVE STREAM?????
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You must be psychic. I spent several hours this last weekend viewing videos on changing rear fluid but finally got frustrated after scouring your channel in disbelief that you didn't have a video on it. I never feel quite prepared to do a task until I see you show and explain it. And today, Voilà !... A rear diff' video! There are others who have decent videos on it, but your feel more confident and competent.
Of the videos, I too watched one by Banks showing his replacement cover. Great presentation with a compelling argument for support. Is it worth $400?... It just might be.
So, I have now:
* changed engine oil, after watching your video,
* changed Xfer case oil, after watching your video,
* changed fuel filters, after watching your video,
* lubed front axels, after watching your video,
* and next on list is rear diff'... of course, after watching your video.
I still have front diff' in near future, maybe after you post one. And I had trans fluid done at dealer, but I'll do it next time.
Love it!! Front diffy coming sooooon 😉👀👀👀😉
You're a couple tasks ahead of me but this is EXACTLY what I have been up to lately for the same reasons. This channel gave me the confidence to really understand my truck intimately and always aim to do my own work if at all possible.
Thanks bro
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodis there a drain plug so o don’t have to remove the rear differential? I have a 22 f250 with the 7.3 50,000 miles.
@gamebredduramax71 only M275 axle
I always pull the fill plug first on everything I touch, don’t wanna drain it unless you know you can fill it!
If every Ford technician had this much thoroughness, nobody would worry about warranty work....excellent job...i hate taking my 2019 f250 in for any kind of work, because nobody cares about customer service...you my friend do an excellent job and I wish you were local to me!!
I can be local to anybody🤔😉
The way you prepped those surfaces is pure gold. Love the work
I am very happy you did a video on this ... I didn't know for 100% what rear axle my Tremor had but now I know ... And also had no idea the m275 had a drain bolt .... So used to doing it the old way
2017 F250 Plati here and changed all fluids at 60,000 and I included the best upgrade….Banks rear diff cover!!! Absolute must do🤩
Did a lot of research to see what axle I had in my 2016 F350 Power stroke to be sure I did or did not need the friction modifier. The Ford dealer here was not sure based on my VIN both in the parts department and service department. Needless to say, I wanted to be sure of what I am doing, so I noticed that you had a video that included the electronic differential lock and friction modifier. Now I can rest easy. Thanks for your hard work on making these informative videos!!
M275 for the win that is good info on the drain bolt. Doing a fluid change on my 17 KR today. Thanks Arod
I used a 5 ton hydraulic Jack on the OEM Steele cover to remove it. Amazing how hard the cover was glued on.
Thank you. very good video very informative. Thanks again for all the good information and videos you provide for all the people who like to service their own cars. Blessings🙏☘️🙏
Pppppreciate chu
I just serviced the 10.5 and D60 in my Excusrion. Stoked to find out my F350 doesnt need the additive since it had the locker🤘 Also, Lube Locker gaskets are the bomb!
I did my first dif fluid change at 30k trying to get rid of any break in junk. Replaced it with Amsoil!!! Will probably change it very 50-60k miles
Great info Arod! I had to run out and look under my truck to see which Axel I had 🤣. Now I know - the Dana 👍🏼
Ur my fav, can always count on you to go investigate🤙💪
I'm running royle purple 75w 140 and the aluminum cover from a 2008 super duty on my late 99 with the 10.5
I use a scraper or a stiff drywall mud spreader to separate the dif cover
Man, these videos always seem to come at the right time.
Lmaooo rightttt
To the DIY none mechanics start by hand threading the bolts before applying and electric/air tool .im not the weirdo pointing out mistakes hes a professional mechanic and has a feel for his tools.🤘🏽
Per Dana, you can utilize 75W-90 with the appropriate SHAE-256 spec. This applies to the front and rear Dana axles. On the Sterling 10.5, you can use the more common 75W-90 synthetic oils. I’ve personally ran 75W-140 in my 2017 with the Sterling rear axle with zero issues in temperature as low as 0° F.
Personally, I run 75W-90 Mobil Delvac 1 full synthetic on both axles as it meets the necessary requirements for my application. The 75W-85 is not common and is only available through a few sources. Whatever is used, just be sure to change it based on climate and mileage. 30k miles is my personal threshold for axle oils.
Your silicone preference is the same as my own. Best one for a diesel engine or an axle. Zero leakage.
Love your content!!!! I have a f350 with the m275 and did not know about that drain plug bolt!!!! You just saved me tons of time and frustration.
I got chu
Wish the sterling had one. They should all have it. Cheapskate companys.
I noticed that comment too. So just pull out the bottom right bolt and it will drain? Then you just put back and torque to what spec? Need a new crush washer or anything? Thanks
Thanks for sharing this with us ARod very good. Thank you
Thanks for the detailed vid. Very helpful
Kudos to you for using scotchbright and razor to clean. I would also suggest a runner gasket if you change oil often.
Thanks Arod! All this time I have been pulling the cover off of my 2017 F250 with the Dana M275 to change the fluid. That’s not happening anymore. 👍
Gotchu!!!!
Aaron. this is very nice information of what type of axels and oil they use in the different trucks
Thanks homie
Just had to look and see, 275 Dana 20,250,7.3 tremor. An excellent truck i might add.
Great informational video. Thanks
That 2020 f250 with the dana is a nice looking truck.
Alrighty. Motivated. Heading out to the driveway with a ballpeen hammer and flathead.
💪💪🔥🔥 time to upgrade that diff cover to a BANKS
Great info, as always!!!
Thnx pal!!
I hit mine from the opposite side on the top. There are two indents that allow you to hit the cover.
Excellent content. Very helpful. New sub from the Texas Gulf Coast. Keep it up!
Thank u, we work very hard. You TX boys show thee most LOVE. Gotta check out our kill switch kit we have for these things to keep that truck urs!!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Indeed! Appreciate it amigo!
Good job love your videos
Great video 👍😁
Just changed a 2013 with 250000 miles. Has the 10.5 and looked exactly like that 17 I was surprised truck hauls everyday aswell
What intervals do you recommend to change fluid in the rear and front axles? Transfer case? Awesome videos. Everyone smash that like button for the Powerstroke guru.
🙏🙏🤙🤙 50-60k
I might of missed it but always pry at bolt holes. If you bend it a little the bolt will pull it back down.
250 here with the high capacity tow package!
If I had the HD Axle like your truck on my duty I’d leave it alone as you have the drain plug and easy fill. For services on the Sterliing I did install the Banks cover. Love the sight glass drain plugs fill plug and no more silicone!!! Of course you know as a Amsoil dealer what gear lube I use. And Gale Banks was so impressed with its performance he now ships the cover with Amsoil. Unless you wish to delete it on the order I think you have a couple pics I sent you AROD. I get a kick at fuel stops towing that cover it gets noticed. Looks good better yet performance cooling while towing is a benefit.
Love it
That Banks diff cover is the only one that has has had more than an iota of thought put into…. other than the stock one.
Everything I have is yours nephew, but you keep your hands out of my honeypot…lol
So glad i bought BANK’s Rear cover for my truck! Never have to remove the cover again and hopefully it will lube the Pinon like Banks claims too!
I just got mine in but chose not to get the amsoil bags. I have the Dana rear. What fluid did you go with?
I use what the dealer sells & that is Mototcraft but if the customer brought his own I would have used that
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have a Dana 80 in my gasser 14 F350, my dealer gave me 75w-140 and told me that Ford made an update from 75W-90. Will it be okay to use in my 80?
Hmmmm
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod , not sure I like that one.. let me know before I make the change if you can..
You got me. I was saying right off the bat, Step 1. Order BANKS Cover kit with Amsoil bags of gear oil. 🤐
Lmaooooo
This is another phenomenal video. A true artist!
I guess I only have a 10.5 Sterling. And a weak payload -towing capacity.
Might as well have a 1/2 Ton suspension in my 22 250 Lariat. 😢
holy hell this job would suck laying on my back in the driveway.. First time I changed mine i put an aftermarket cover on, now i have a fill hole, drain plug and a dipstick. just like a regular oil change.
Good video !
Just got little confused on the fluid type.
All 3 different rear axels take the same 75w 140? Or the 250 with the high towing package uses different?
I have the f250 with the high toe package.
Thanks
Great vid. What kind of Motorcraft silicone are you using? What I'm seeing on Amazon says for 7.3
All you need is a hellwig helper and a lower gearing set like a 4:10 4:30 4:56 etc and you can tow just as much as the Dana 275 rear i do juat saying
Hi ARod, I'm getting a great amount of knowledge from these videos, thank you very much. Question: do the F-350 and F-450 use the same rear Diff covers?
Thank you, no sir they are not
Thank you for another great video but could you please made on on how to service these new 10 speeds?
Its in the works pal
Just put a banks on my 2017, the o-ring seal instead of gasket caulk was different. I used the 75W-140 Amsoil serve gear full syth. Supposed to fill to center of sight glass which was only about 2.9 qts for me. Was almost thinking of removing the nut on back diff and fill to top and then see if it's in center of sight glass. They have some fine print on the diff that says use manufacture recommended amount of fluid even if not center of sight glass.... so idk.
Use the original side fill it will be just below center line. I also bought gold fill plug Magnets seen on Don Smiths channel. They are strong pick up much more metal.
Great Video. Thanks
U bet
Another great video! How about a video of a drain and fill on the Superduty 10 speed. I’ve read the procedure document but it would be nice to see a professional do it first.
Buddy, it is coming!!!! So excited for you all
Thanks for the vid ARod. Completed front D60 and M275 rear service on my '17 F350 at 40k miles, early and preventative maintenance. Used Valvoline Synthetic 75W140 rear and dino 80W90 on front. Scored using a lubelocker gasket for the D60 vice gooey stuff. Lesson learned on M275 cover, used stiff painter's blade to break sealant and 12pt socket + breaker bar for bolts. Some still had uncured sealant at tips. Looking forward to pinion seal vid - had to do this on my '06 F350 a few years ago. Unsure if I am bought into Bank's diff cover, based on how many trucks are on the road with OEM covers and price point. Banks cover versus HSM upper/lower fuel filter solutions.
HSM!!! GOT their videos coming soooon
Just an fyi for future on the m275 u don't need to pull the cover to drain . Bottom bolt on right is the drain plug according to this vid.
Did both fifa's at 100k useing ford oil . Got it at my local ford dealership under my vin number. I did the transfer case to . But was told by them that ford no longer uses the transfer case oil but the auto transmission oil.
Yepp
The axle specs is great info
Thx pal
8:13 a man of culture, I see. Iykyk💯
The ford 10.5 and 9.75 haven't changed internally, and ran fine with 75w140 for years. I have a surplus of amsoil 75w140 I plan on using on my 19. I'm guessing the 75w85 is for fuel mileage?
Arod, could the 2017 M275 Axle, be a direct swap with the Sterling 10.5, providing both have the E-Lock. I already have the f350 rear springs swap in my 250.
off the topic but I frequent the ford parts dep for service products and cetane booster. I picked up the upholstery cleaner and wow does that ever smell terrible..
awsome videos
Lololol
If I have the locking actuator, you said I don’t have to, but can I still add friction modifier or no?
Got to service the Diffy in the duties.
What about the 2010 F-250 Super Duty. You have to pay to get a build sheet with the VIN and they dont tell you what you get with it. This truck has 3 leaf springs, mine has 4 but the window sheet says 12.5K trailer tow hitch. I also have the 3.31 ratio limited slip differential that has a ribbed aluminum looking cover
Hey what diff oil does your truck take
The one with ELD 3.55 also what does the front differential take ?
I've got an Aluminum Heat-Sink cover on my 2011 F350 6.7 that is factory. Which rear diff is this off the top of your head? BTW...Putty Knives work wonders on oil pan and diff cover removal without damaging sealing surfaces.
10.5
Brother, please take the fill plug out first before draining. It’s a bad day if you drain, then put all back together just to find out the drain plug is seized or rounded out. Been there once. Never again.
I like the smell of gear oil. Need more info on the new m275 and m300 vs the 10.5 and Dana 80. Does the f450/550 use the m300?
17 & up M300
Where can I look up my differential by vin? Please help this is all so confusing 2021 f250 6.7
I have a 2006 Super Duty 6.0 four wheel drive can you tell me what rear I have???
I have the Dana M275 on my 2017 F350 with the drain bolt. Went re-installing the drain bolt, should I use some kind of sealant on the drain bolt and if so what would you recommend?
U cld use some PTFE sealant
A thick blue shop paper towel would probably be pretty good to fold up and soak
Up the remaining oil in there. What do you think??
Sure
Howdy Arod. Great vids. I have the 2017 6.7 PS F-250 with the 3J axle code. Gear ratio is 3.55:1. Currently has the stock LT265/70R17 E121/118R tires on it. I want to upgrade my tires to something bigger. (I already have the BDS leveling kit on it.) 35s are what I'm thinking, but after doing some math, am thinking that 35s would be too big for my 3.55:1 gear ratio in my axle. Should I just get 33s or do you think the 3.55 can handle a bigger tire like a 35?
I think you're getting too techincal, yes youll be fine
First time changing diff fluid. 2017 f350 dually. Should I use a gasket or the silicone?
Depends on your cover. OEM silicone as u saw here. Banks diff cover, they use a gaskeeto
I can literally smell this video
I smell u
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod that's what I was going for.
I just got done pulling my rear differential cover, have you come across oem gaskets on the newer trucks? My rear differential cover did not have the ring on the outside but instead it has a metal spacer with a built in rubber gasket. Kinda neat and looks to be reusable. My truck has the same diff as the one in the video! No signs of sealant anywhere.
Yepp some had that. 10.5 sterling tho
Question about these diff cover jobs: what do you do when the labor time is less than the amount of time it takes for silicone to dry? I get these as waiter appointments a lot. The boss and the customer in the lobby want it done in the book time. What's a tech to do?
You pay book time you get a job that would & could come back. Those jobs, aren't a waiting around kind of job. If he wants that, than maybe your store isn't for your fast paced customer. However your boss man is going to have to explain to our honest hard paying customer that it would be in his best interest to drop the truck off & pick it up later in the day, no if ands or butts. You can't rush this shit na mean...???
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for taking the time to reply! I like your content and appreciate that you always keep it real
🙏🙏🤙🤙
Got this project with a Banks cover lined up for this weekend. Looking forward to it!
Damn skippy
Subbed. Great video. I have a 2019 F350 single Axel. What fluid is that in the front and what fluid for the rear? I'm guessing 75-140 in rear and 75-90 in the front?
Yes but 85/90
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Did you mean 80W-90?
Didn't some DRW F350's (2016ish) come with a finned aluminum cover stock? In which has a drain plug.
Yes
Just a heads up, my 2015 DRW F-350 does not have a Dana 80. Axle code is 3L I believe it’s a sterling 10.5
Yes.
I have a 2013 F350 diesel with the locking diff. What would happen if I did use the friction modifier?
Probably nothing
Arod - there’s a hose connected to the drivers side of the rear dif. What is that for? I just found mine disconnected at the other end on my’ 17 F450. What should the other end be connected to? Thanks
It is a vent..
Nice Friday reference
I have looked at the front and rear diff change videos and wonder if using vacuum to remove the fluid from both is not a better solution, especially for the front? I have a twin shock steering stabilizer on the front and would love to have confidence that a vac suck and refill would work properly. 2019 F250 6.7. I want to consider Amsoil, too, so your thoughts would be most appreciated.
100% not everyone has that option
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thank you. I have a sloping driveway and at work I can't make a mess. I think I could sneak a sucker in and get the job done in the work parking lot but there would be no time for curing of RTV.
I have to change the power steering fluid on this one too. Do you think that the suck, turn lock to lock, replace, then repeat until clear is a viable solution for Alumiduties as well.
Thank you for awesome help and support for the powerstroke clan.
One more question, why the silicone instead of a paper or cork screw type gasket?
Cork old newwwws
2014 F250 SRW with the Sterling 10.5 ELD. Took mine into local dealership for a transfer case seal leak.
I’m going to have them service the rear diff too. They said when they service these they just suck the fluid out of the fill hole, then refill. Is that ok? Or should they be fully removing the diff cover every time? Thx
Thats ok too
I am about to change the fluid in my 2015 250 with Schaeffers 75w-140, do I need to add the friction modifier to mine? It has a diff locker
Ok I’m an idiot, I just needed to wait 2 more minutes into the video of you saying I don’t need to if I have a diff locker lol. Great video thanks for the info!
Help please,! . I have a 17, F450 with the Dana S110.. My local junk yard has a Dana S130. I want to replace it but I don't know if I have to change other components. Or the transmission module with put my truck in limp mode. ✌✌✌✌
I don't know if I would be putting a different rear end in it. You might be causing more problems
I love the smell of burnt gear oil don’t forget warranty on older super duty to synthetic gear oil if you can’t get it all GET SOME!
I love the smell of gear oil in the morning. But I’m Slavic & Scandinavian, if you smelled some of our seafood dishes you’d probably understand why I don’t mind diff oil.
@davemccage7918 🤮🤢
Hey Arod how do you feel about fel pro gaskets for the rear differential
I'd pass...
Great video!
I was wondering if you have any experience/thoughts on Banks Power's Diff Covers?
Also, I am curious if you know whether or not the 2020+ upper oil pans fit earlier years and if the new design actually works?
I have not. No it will not
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Dang. Thank you!
I have a 2017 F250 XLT with the 2.5 hitch and 3 leaf springs. Axle code on door sticker is 3J. I have the locking rear diff. What axle do I have and what weight fluid should I use? I just wanted to double check. Thanks
Brother, going by this video, should be able to decipher
I have the same axle and couldn’t figure it out from the video either haha. That’s ok though still a great video.
Amsoil joose in every oil container on my Plati!!
If I can’t get that silicone, what’s the next best option from a parts store
Black rtv
It tastes a lot better then it smells
I have a ford sterling without a locking rear could you add a factory locker or would you go with a limited slip like detroit truetrac
I have no idea
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod i have a 2015 f250 with the sterling 10.5 rear diff. I used a spicer gasket and Amsoil 75w140. It is an electronic locker so i did NOT add modifier. A couple times after the change the rear clunked at 40 to 45 mph. Any idea why? It didn't do it driving home and nothing chatters or binds on turns.
It clunked, it shldnt have...
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod based on your rear diff video 75w140 is correct. I guess my question is, have you seen a fluid change exasterbate this issue on a diff before? It seems like after driving it a bit it went away.
Valvoline 75w90 full synthetic
I could smell that nasty stuff when he popped that cover off, lol
my 2011 has finned cover on it. what up with that? not complaining but , it quite different than what you've explained.
Was an early thing
Hello, how do I know what axel or differential my 2001 f-550 7.3 stick shift has, I do not see any tags, and what type of fluid do I need to change? Thanks in advance
U wld have 2 look it up by vin
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok, thanks