Can I be the first to say “Thank you” for Quintin saying that the Newbies have their own issues and are blaming them on Oliver? He really is the OG. Fantastic Arrow episode, as well.
Yeah I've always loved Quentin (and Paul Blackthorne's acting.) He's to Arrow what Joe is to the Flash. He really is the closest thing Oliver has to a father and he gave him great advice this episode.
Dinah has gotten on my nerves all season. She always looks like she's mad at EVERYTHING which the writers think apparently makes her look badass but she just seems one note and annoying.
*right!!* i been saying this all season long, quentin getting old. they can't be kicking (TS) out this man every other episode especially with his pre-existing *heart condition* ...smh #handsOFFquentin 🤕 🤕
S.R. Morton i have a rather interesting theory. what if chase somehow, during oliver's torture last season, implanted a *hypnotic suggestion* deep inside oliver's subconscious, enhanced from his recent *vertigo-poisoning,* that slowly made him revert to *murderous arrow* from S1 with chase acting like *evil Jiminy Cricket* on his shoulder influencing his actions from beyond the grave, as a last laugh from prometheus so he could be proven right even *after his death.* kinda like what joker did to tim drake in *Batman Beyond* 🤔 if that's the direction they take this season i'm most definitely *on-board* cuz it makes all these back-to-back *L's* oliver been taking recently (team Arrow breakup, diggle leaving, city-wide corruption...etc.) all instantly worth it! 🤞🙏
Everyone is on about Josh Segarra's terrific performance, but I would spare a minute on how far Stephen Amell has come as an actor. He really sold it this episode.
I really hope the shows follows through on the promises made by this episode. In my opinion, oliver going back to being solo is ironically the breath of fresh air this show needs.
Just like how the island should've had consequences in the season finale last season.... I'm afraid they are just going to kiss and make up and just carry on again with the status quo.
"There was never supposed to be... A John Diggle! A Felicity Smoak! A team Arrow. There was never supposed to be... A GREEN ARROW! THERE WAS ONLY.... *THE MISSION!!!* "
One of the best episodes of arrow ever. And Adrian Chase was so damn awesome. Who's ready for the Richard Dragon centeric episode. Also thank God that olicity argument was a hallucination because I don't want those 2 arguing like in season 4 it almost ruined the whole show. But thankfully Adrian brought it back to it's glory.
i was low-key anticipating your input on this ep., my friend 😎 as much a *touch of greatness* the prometheus reveal was, the *highlight* of this ep was stephen amell's acting, IMO. he sold everything that was happening to oliver so damn well. him and josh's acting ticks bounce off each other with expert timing
Joe G yup Stephen Amell and Josh Seggea are basically Batman and Joker. Also I do like Stephen Amell the most he is my favorite actor and green arrow is my favorite superhero on tv right now. Prometheus is my favorite villian.
I Am Prometheus wishlist villain teamup: *prometheus & zoom* if you wanna go OP murder-spree on the entire arrowverse *prometheus & cupid:* just imagine a love-sick cupid as the harley to prometheus' joker....'nuff said 😵
I Am Prometheus i felt like this episode paid waaay more respect to prometheus' return to this season of the show than they did deathstroke's comeback on lian yu in S3, which i am extremely glad they learned from that horrible mistake in writing judgement
season 5 was Oliver being CONVINCED he needed a team, and trying desperately to build a new one. That doesn't necessarily mean he DOES need one. He probably was underestimating his own abilities.
Ahhhhh you edited out the parts where hallucination Diaz and real Diaz say the same thing! "He's more dangerous as a martyr than as the Green Arrow." Great reaction guys, as always!
dude, Adrian Chase (Josh Segarra) is so scary and intimidating my favorite Arrow Villain that actor did an amazing job. Season 5 is the best season of the series so far with season 2 right behind it.
My favorite part of this episode was when all the hallucinations where telling Oliver how everything was his fault and he was clearly effected by them then Wilddog shows up and try’s to blame him and Oliver was having none of it
I won't complain if they brought back Prometheus by those Lazarus Pits. The actor, Josh Segarra, is so great in the role. This is by far my favorite episode of this season. I think this was a great week for the DC shows (except for The Flash).
this episode played out almost like a *psychological thriller.* cuz for a while you didn't know what was real and what was a *vertigo-induced* hallucination. then not only laurel but prometheus himself show up out of nowhere and my mind was completely blown!!! the majority of this episode was sold almost entirely on stephen amell's *acting chops* and he delivered big time. whether it be with the stark realization that everyone is abandoning him or that the city he cares so much for is slowly *spiraling down the drain* of corruption and there's nothing he can do to stop it, stephen sold me on oliver's fear of *isolation* but most importantly, his fear of *failure as a father and hero.* amell pretty much holding up *all of season 6* on his back, paralleling the *same dynamic* with oliver and Star City for all these years. all of us who have watched him make this role his own *from the beginning* should feel somewhat proud to bear witness to the sheer skill with which this man *UNDERTAKES* his craft. 😉👍 (pun intended) #amellDESERVESaraise LIKE# 155
I oh so desperately wanted Chase to actually be alive, and be the guy in charge of Dragon, and be the reason why Dragon knew everything about Oliver and the team. This was still awesome. It's rare that I rewatch an episode of a show, but damn I want to rewatch that episode. Oliver vs Prometheous physical or mental is amazing tv
By episode 3, Oliver had to go to Felicity and ask for help with getting information on Deadshot. Just saying, he did the computer thing for only 2 episodes.
Felicity Smoak Queen is that ride or die chick. Love her. Oliver and William have a gem with them. I love her. This episode was amazing. Quentin, Oliver and Felicity are great. Chase is a beast. The captain of this ship, Amell is just the best actor on Dctv . I love him
Thank God for Lance. He's the only one talking a lick of sense. Bringing Chase back only highlights how much he's missed this season. Ollie should have said Argus gave him the info. What happened to that magic powder he had first season to counteract vertigo?
I do enjoy myself some psychological thrillers and this really was amazing. Reaching into the depths of Oliver’s fears and insecurities but also having his family give him a little sanity back to keep him from diving off the deep end. I have to admit, I am excited to see him fighting like he did in season 1, albeit without the killing.
This was the best episode this season, and it was no coincidence that Adrian Chase was in it. The episode was written very well, similar to most of the episodes last season. I also love how because they got the actor back he was in basically every scene after he first appeared. He just always was in the background and would add something in pretty much every scene.
This was my favorite episode of Arrow, he literally lost everything in one episode. Similar to Spider-Man 2 where the hero is punished 24:7. Even Felicity left him, he was supposed to be in court but didn’t make it. Diggle got mad at him when he’s been his right hand since the beginning. And then Prometheus coming back. But the best scene for me was when Felicity was trying to save him, and Oliver said YOU LEFT ME. That really hit me.
While I don't totally agree with Diggle's argument from last week, he did make some good points. My main problem with him is that he left Oliver when he needed him the most! It would be different if he had a whole team, but he doesn't. Oliver would've never left him to fight the bad guys alone. Anyways, as a loyal fan of Arrow since the beginning, I appreciate Blind Wave and everybody else who haven't given up on this show! I have high hopes that the last 5 episode will be great!
20:22. I've always liked Prometheus' theme. What sealed it for me was the scene from 5x05 when Prometheus kills Tobias Church. The alternating notes, like a ticking clock, and the rising and falling violins. Everything about it is like a horror movie, which is only fitting for a villain like Chase.
YES! Oliver going back to square one, no pointless Olicity drama, William doesn't hate him for no reason. This is what the season should've been up to this point.
Arrow and Black Lightning are the best DC CW shows on right now. Flash is really average right now. We will have to see how Supergirl is when it returns. Legends is over but that was the most fun one to watch. This episode was possibly the best episode of DC CW TV of the current seasons.
The only one consistently good is Black Lightning. Objectively it's the best right now simply because it didn't have episodes that were bad. Arrow and Flash are both meh. Most of the times their episodes are lame or irritating with stupid writing but sometimes they shine with amazing episodes such as this one, Deathstroke episodes and "Enter Flashtime" (the best Flash episode ever).
Atharv Sankholkar Arrow has has 3 or 4 really good episodes. Like I said Legends is over and I need to see how supergirl returns. Flash literally had 1 good episode and it didn't even have anything to do with the main plot. So right now atleast in my opinion Flash has been pretty meh this season
Black lightning is the best right now because it's new. All of the shows had very strong first seasons. We'll see how it fairs next season, but I love it so far and I'm rooting for it.
The last 2 episodes have made up for the 8 episodes previous. Prometheus is such an incredible character and the actor is incredible. His voice and his screen presence is just amazing. Wow.
It's crazy how Arrow gets GOOD when it focuses on its main character. And his name is Oliver Queen. Simple as that. Also wow, the scenes between Quentin and Oliver. The Quentin/Oliver/Felicity trio works so well! (I really hoped we'd see The Queens in the Mansion, like Thea and Robert and Moira - it would have been so much better than Laurel). I'm still wondering, Oliver got the City (the citizens) to rise against Darhk on s4, you can't tell me he can't pull the same on Diaz, I mean, who would want their city to become a crime zone?
This seemed like an intentional screw around with the Felicity haters. They gave them just enough to get all the whiners freaking out and yelling about how awful she is that she would leave just to have it not be true. Pretty sure the writers did that just to give themselves a laugh by playing around with them.
lol. I'm more of an olicity hater than a felicity one. I hate the way she acts in the name of her love for Oliver, culminating in her selfishness at West Allen's wedding. But, she's very inconsistent in her tolerability. I'm still able to give her props when warranted.
@@Rosannasfriend A wedding that wouldn't have happened that day if Felicity wasn't there ... You're a fan of Katie Cassidy, Laurel/Black Canary and Lauriver! So your reaction about Felicity is normal...
I used to practice lucid dreaming when I was younger, and how you explained it is pretty much spot on. Once you realize you're dreaming and if you're able to keep yourself in the dream, then you can then control the dream and even do stuff that applies in reality, like learning an instrument, etc. It's pretty crazy. I have memory issues now though so I haven't been able to even remember my dreams when waking up in years let alone knowing if I still do it or not. While everyone has personal dream signs that are unique to only you, there are a few common dream signs as well that is common to the majority of people. One sign is you can't really read digital in a dream. When you look at a digital watch for instance, the individual pixels or LED lines or whatever they're called continuously change and don't make sense as numbers, but normally your mind will fill in blanks and make you believe you believe it says something. Also reading is a common sign. Usually if you read something in a dream and then reread the same sentence or part again, it will say something different from the first time you read it, as the words and letters constantly change, much like digital, but your brain attempts to make sense of it so you may not be aware of the change. One of my personal dream signs though is a red car. It used to be that whenever I dream, someone in my dream always had a specific red car, and in the dream I knew it was whoever's car (it was always a different person), but in reality I know that person never owned that car, I've never even seen the car in reality myself, so I have no idea why it pops up, but it's something personal to me. I really wish I could remember my dreams now so I could remember lucid dreaming again.
Finally a great episode, it’s been a while. This just might be the best episode of the season, if not then it’s really close. Seeing Adrian Chase again and how great he made the episode just goes to show how disappointing Season 6 is compared to Season 5 and how Ricardo Diaz is no Adrian Chase. But I will say that the show has steadily been getting better since Diaz took over, he’s far better than Cayden James but he still needs more work. Not surprising, I didn’t seem to miss any members of team Arrow this week, non of them actually showed up and I didn’t care, there are just too many characters on the show right now and taking it back to basics like Oliver said is exactly what this show needs, it might be a step back for Oliver as a character pushing everyone aside, but it’s better for the show itself. Hope they keep this momentum going.
Omar Barakat - i have a interesting theory. what if chase somehow, during oliver's intense torture last season, implanted a *hypnotic suggestion* deep inside oliver's subconscious, enhanced by his recent *vertigo-poisoning,* that slowly made him revert to *murder-arrow* from S1 with chase acting like *evil Jiminy Cricket* on his shoulder influencing his actions from beyond the grave. a last laugh from prometheus to prove himself right even *after his death.* kinda like what joker did to tim drake in *Batman Beyond* 🤔 following my theory, the *true villain* this season wouldn't be cayden james or even diaz but S1 arrow aka "kapiushon" *guest starring* vertigo-induced adrian chase himself if that's the direction they take this season i'm most definitely *on-board* cuz it makes all these back-to-back *L's* oliver been taking recently (team Arrow breakup, diggle leaving, city-wide corruption...etc.) all instantly worth it! 🤞🙏
Omar Barakat - and that's something i came up with in a couple minutes *off the top of my head* that just so happens to neatly wrap up all the *annoying subplots* from this season while being a direct callback to one of the *best episodes* of arrow in the past 3 seasons into a nice bow. i'm hoping what the actual showrunners themselves have planned is *way better* 😣🤞
Joe G I was thinking about the details of how to actually get rid of some of the annoying members of NTA but not only them but Quentin too, sure he’s cool again but he’s just gonna he out of place like he has been for the last couple of seasons when this while mayor thing is done with. What if Black Siren sacrifices herself and make Quentin proud, and Rene dies in the finale, and Quentin adopts his daughter as a replacement for Laurel and he can finally have a daughter again and just rides off in the sunset with her and that’s it for him. So that gets rid of Rene, Black Siren, and Quentin. As for Curtis and Dinah I really don’t know, Curtis is annoying as hell but Dinah might still be redeemed because before the whole vigilante being her ex bullshit, she was tight!
*track star felicity* officially became *ms. queen* in my eyes this episode. the only one able to talk oliver down from *vertigo-induced* prometheus' self-destruction #sheEARNEDthatROCK 💍
I find it ridiculous that after it happened, not a single person in this series comments on how René literally tried to murder Oliver with a freaking axe... NTA blames Oliver for fighting back and defending himself too, stupid... Loved this episode, I agree Eric, Chase was like Arkham Knight Joker in this, showing the Impossible Space Hallucinations throughout the episode, making everything out to be his fault, just hanging around in the background commenting on the real stuff that happened. It was great.
This is a repackaged version of 'three ghost' from season two, with elements from season 6. i wanted that last fight scene though. Without the vertigo messing with him i think he could've taken them. He has trick arrows for a reason.
Antonio Lagunaz Yeah trick arrows won't help him at point blank range. Oliver has a limit to how many people he can fight. Oliver is powerful and skilled but he can not take on 50 gun men at point blank. He can take on probably a 100 thugs and league of assasins and about 25 gun men. Oliver needs 4 other people. That way Oliver can focus on what he is doing and have the rest do other things. Also having a total of 4 people on his team it would be balanced and less chaotic for the writers.
Yeah what i was trying to say is without vertigo he could've come up with a plan before storming the station. And yeah i wouldn't expect Oliver to to some of the crazy shit, he and other humans can do in the comics. And my team would be Roy, huntress and Dinah drake or a version of emiko.
Stefan Buruschkin No he has never used anything like that from what I know and remember. Also if he has magnetic arrows then his arrows would all connect to each other.
Antonio Lagunaz Same my ideal team is Oliver, Diggle, Roy, Thea, and Dinah Drake or Laurel don't mind either of them. But I don't like Dinah right now. I used to before things happened in the midseason finale.
that was an awesome episode, it had me guessing also what was really happening or not. But loved Felicity in this episode also especially when she stood by Oliver. BRILLIANT!
How could you not love this episode the best episode since season 2 holy damnnnnnn i really hope they aren't gonna mess it up again, but they probably will cuz they are stupid.. and the argument what Eric said about Oliver can't do shit alone is not even true.. Oliver has been doing this alone for a long time even when he wasn't the Arrow so we don't even know exactly what he can do alone.. because Felicity and Diggle helped him pretty fast when he became the Arrow.
yes, this is a man who survived Lian Yu mainly alone. He fought numerous bad guys by himself. I'm pretty sure he can win alone if the writers allowed for that.
definitely agree oliver is able to handle things on his own he's been doing this for a long time he could even take down 50 or 100 men all by himself he is a one man army
@@yutz1948 oliver had yao fei, slade, shado, sara, then later anatoly talia. So oliver has always needed someone. oliver himself declared that in season 2 that when he started he thought he could do it alone but he realized he needed allies. what you are talking about is "fighting bad guys". Thats not what eric means. Oliver can fight physically on his own but to defeat an enemy he needs partners/ allies who offers ways to defeat the enemy.
Oliver's skills as an archer makes him the ONLY option to be Green Arrow. Why would John, who is not an archer, insist he should be Green Arrow? It made no sense.
I absolutely loved seeing Chase again. But immediately got sad because I knew he was a hallucination when he started referring to moments when Oliver died that he shouldn't know about.
Having Josh Seggara/Prometheus back just makes you appreciate a GREAT villain... He was more menacing in one episode than dragon has been all season...
I think with Diggle he is dealing with the drug problem he himself had like the drugs he got from Diaz so he blames himself for Diaz showing up. He also if everybody remembers he blamed himself for Laurel's death also his brother's. He is dealing with his own guilt but he chooses to put that off on Oliver. But pushing Felicity away I don't see that because she is his wife shutting her out has always been a problem between those two. Felicity has stood by his side forever where as Diggle has left him before in S1 S4 now this Season as well. But to him separating himself from Felicity may get her killed maybe her and William. Diaz knows if he takes that from him it will ruin him.Felicity running to the Police Station their Apartment is close to the Police Station she said something to that affect. Are maybe she did drive she may have been running from her parked car.
Fucking happy to see Oliver going alone. And loved to see Adrain chase back. My joint favourite villain with Deathstroke, really looking forward to the rest of the season.
Oliver could solve all his issues if he called Barry there is no reason Barry couldn't run from central city to star city search the whole city grab Diaz give him to Oliver and run back in we under a minute
One of the BEST episode of the season just because dark Oliver is Back!!! But Arrow would be so much better if it was always just Oliver. Olicity, OTA and NTA sucks.
Felicity and Oliver don’t bother me this season. They are not a focus of the show so I am happy with that. NTA can take a hike though. Don’t want them back ever. Diggle if he becomes Diggle again I am ok with.
The show would be stupid and useless if Oliver had never explored more things and evolved. If you enjoy lonely dark and serial killery Oliver then watch the first three episodes of s1 on a loop. Oliver was never meant to stay that way, the show would have been boring.
True enough. That's why I think this is going to blow up in Oliver's face big time. I predict an episode or two where it seems like it's working for him, only for him to ultimately crash and burn big time...very possibly costing someone else their life. How many times since the initial team break up have they hammered home the idea that Oliver can't do everything by himself? How many times has Oliver been forced to run away because he was too outnumbered? Now, think about how far the CW has gone to try and push the strength of women in their shows this season (sometimes in not so effective ways to the detriment of the shows), and ask yourself if they'd really transform Felicity into nothing more than a wife staying at home to take care of the son he had with another woman. If Oliver's new plan turns out to be the silver bullet that solves all of his problems, that'd go against everything the Arrow showrunners and the CW DC shows as a whole have been pushing. That's just a bit too much inconsistency for me to expect this to work out well.
OK, just to make sure I understand Oliver's thinking at the end of the episode: Oliver eventually agrees that he's being spread too thin and that it's hurting his efforts to stop Diaz. To fix that problem, Oliver planned to stay every bit as committed to his role as a husband and a father (good for him), and he planned to continue being the mayor if he hadn't been impeached. At the same time that he was planning to cut out none of his workload, Oliver was going to cut out everyone and anyone who could help him handle that workload. Now, that might be a solution to something, but it certainly isn't a solution to the problem of being spread too thin. This just reminds me of The Princess Bride. "I don't think this word means what he thinks it means."
Oliver says Adrian isn't his worst nightmare but Oliver knows that isn't true Adrian is and always will be his worst nightmare. Also I am wondering was that hallucination of Richard dragon real because the real Richard Dragon says the same thing at the end.
Adrian Chase is great character, one of the best in show, maybe is the best. He made this episode better then entire season, his quotes is freaking awesome!!!
This was easily the best episode we got since the Deathstroke stuff and has possibly saved this season from being S4 levels of bad. The reason last season was so good is cuz it focused on its "fundamentals" like this episode, and spiced things up with character cameos here and there. This season has just been *ALL* *OVER* *THE* *FUCKIN* *PLACE* . not to mention Diaz being the most boring villain we've ever had on this show. He's just the bad guy cuz he's supposed to be the bad guy... Arrow can do better
I was like thats my guy finally when adrian chase pointed out laurel was out crime fighting after a few self defense classes and some training with olliver prometheus is the best villain
Like I said before these shows need their heroes to be solo like in the comics and occasionally have their partners help like how black lighting is now
First okay episode since the Slade two-parter. Seems like the show is capable of creating okay to decent episodes but they seem to drop the ball most of the time. Such a shame they can't be consistent. Season 5 also had some entertaining episodes: the one where Prometheus escaped and killed those guards, the finale on the island and some other Prometheus moments here and there. This season had highlights with Slade and this episode.
Oliver’s reasoning ‘Diggle says I’m spreading my self too thin and he’s right. So I’m going to spread myself even more thin by loosing my IT girl and will have to do more work....’ okay....
I'm all for solo Savage Arrow I mean he just took down an entire police station. I think it's time we get the arrow back who took down the League of Assassins and their leader and not the one who gets beat up by random street thug number one
He was Kapushaun (I believe thats how you spell that) way before he took on the persona of Arrow. He took on so much shit before he began his crusade. With Deathstroke, Bratva, The Island, Japan.. Not to take anyway any of the accomplishments the whole team did together, but he can do it especially now with all the experience he has. But this is going to be too big for Oliver to handle.
Can I be the first to say “Thank you” for Quintin saying that the Newbies have their own issues and are blaming them on Oliver? He really is the OG.
Fantastic Arrow episode, as well.
Matthew Mabry I feel that Quentin is the odd one out here and a beloved and OG character of Arrow and he is going to die at the end of this season.
Rub N Tug yeah, I’m afraid that’s going to happen, too.
Yeah I've always loved Quentin (and Paul Blackthorne's acting.) He's to Arrow what Joe is to the Flash. He really is the closest thing Oliver has to a father and he gave him great advice this episode.
And also of Quentin dies Black Siren could turn good. I hope Dinah does too so that Laurel can turn into the Black Canary.
Dinah has gotten on my nerves all season. She always looks like she's mad at EVERYTHING which the writers think apparently makes her look badass but she just seems one note and annoying.
Out of all the fantastic Adrian Chase quotes my favourite one has got to be ......”Hello Oliver” simple yet effective my friends
Yeah. Its up there with Slade saying "hey kid."
Same, but for me up there aswell is: "you`re the one enemy you cant defeat"
XGeneration10th how about: “Everything you toch, dies.”
XGeneration10th Such a nice way to greet a friend.
"I'm ten steps ahead of you and you haven't even figured out what game we're playing yet"
The old Arrow logo. And bullet scars in Adrian's head. Nice touches.
S.R. Morton isn't the bullet scar on Chase on the wrong side?
Govind Nair no it was on both sides of his head to show the bullet went in one side and came out the other
If everyone could stop smacking Quentin in the face this season that would be great
*right!!* i been saying this all season long, quentin getting old. they can't be kicking (TS) out this man every other episode especially with his pre-existing *heart condition* ...smh #handsOFFquentin 🤕 🤕
Reece Hart hes so forgiving lol
Dinah the most tbh
Reece Hart lol. Ikr.
Reece Hart #PreventQuentinAbuse
Best episode this season!! The Chase hallucination was like the Joker in Arkham Knight
S.R. Morton yeah😅
S.R. Morton
I was hoping to see him serenading Oliver in a burlesque night club.
“Remember In Lian Yu? I killed Williams hope for you.”
S.R. Morton i have a rather interesting theory. what if chase somehow, during oliver's torture last season, implanted a *hypnotic suggestion* deep inside oliver's subconscious, enhanced from his recent *vertigo-poisoning,* that slowly made him revert to *murderous arrow* from S1 with chase acting like *evil Jiminy Cricket* on his shoulder influencing his actions from beyond the grave, as a last laugh from prometheus so he could be proven right even *after his death.* kinda like what joker did to tim drake in *Batman Beyond* 🤔
if that's the direction they take this season i'm most definitely *on-board* cuz it makes all these back-to-back *L's* oliver been taking recently (team Arrow breakup, diggle leaving, city-wide corruption...etc.) all instantly worth it! 🤞🙏
Everyone is on about Josh Segarra's terrific performance, but I would spare a minute on how far Stephen Amell has come as an actor. He really sold it this episode.
I really hope the shows follows through on the promises made by this episode. In my opinion, oliver going back to being solo is ironically the breath of fresh air this show needs.
Just like how the island should've had consequences in the season finale last season.... I'm afraid they are just going to kiss and make up and just carry on again with the status quo.
"There was never supposed to be... A John Diggle! A Felicity Smoak! A team Arrow. There was never supposed to be... A GREEN ARROW! THERE WAS ONLY.... *THE MISSION!!!* "
there was never suppose to be a flash supergirl and legends
Adrian Chase and the original costume!!! Recipe for an amazing episode.
the *hero/villain* costume design on this series as always is *top-notch!* 👌😎
This episode was so good that scene with Felicity and Oliver in the police station was amazing
One of the best episodes of arrow ever. And Adrian Chase was so damn awesome. Who's ready for the Richard Dragon centeric episode. Also thank God that olicity argument was a hallucination because I don't want those 2 arguing like in season 4 it almost ruined the whole show. But thankfully Adrian brought it back to it's glory.
i was low-key anticipating your input on this ep., my friend 😎
as much a *touch of greatness* the prometheus reveal was, the *highlight* of this ep was stephen amell's acting, IMO. he sold everything that was happening to oliver so damn well. him and josh's acting ticks bounce off each other with expert timing
Joe G yup Stephen Amell and Josh Seggea are basically Batman and Joker. Also I do like Stephen Amell the most he is my favorite actor and green arrow is my favorite superhero on tv right now. Prometheus is my favorite villian.
I Am Prometheus wishlist villain teamup: *prometheus & zoom* if you wanna go OP murder-spree on the entire arrowverse
*prometheus & cupid:* just imagine a love-sick cupid as the harley to prometheus' joker....'nuff said 😵
Joe G hell yes to Prometheus and Zoom they would beat everyone up.
I Am Prometheus i felt like this episode paid waaay more respect to prometheus' return to this season of the show than they did deathstroke's comeback on lian yu in S3, which i am extremely glad they learned from that horrible mistake in writing judgement
season 5 was Oliver being CONVINCED he needed a team, and trying desperately to build a new one. That doesn't necessarily mean he DOES need one. He probably was underestimating his own abilities.
he has needed a team since s1 episode 3 lol
Ahhhhh you edited out the parts where hallucination Diaz and real Diaz say the same thing! "He's more dangerous as a martyr than as the Green Arrow." Great reaction guys, as always!
ANGRYpooCHUCKER i didn’t get that line
dude, Adrian Chase (Josh Segarra) is so scary and intimidating my favorite Arrow Villain that actor did an amazing job. Season 5 is the best season of the series so far with season 2 right behind it.
My favorite part of this episode was when all the hallucinations where telling Oliver how everything was his fault and he was clearly effected by them then Wilddog shows up and try’s to blame him and Oliver was having none of it
I won't complain if they brought back Prometheus by those Lazarus Pits. The actor, Josh Segarra, is so great in the role. This is by far my favorite episode of this season.
I think this was a great week for the DC shows (except for The Flash).
Flash hasn't had a good week unfortunately.
If the Flash got rid of Ralph Dibny the idiot, maybe it'd be better
Nora Girl You got your wish! Ralph's dead now!
Giphitt Thank God😥 He complained in every episode.
@@giphitt3427 Ralph is fired now:)
this episode played out almost like a *psychological thriller.* cuz for a while you didn't know what was real and what was a *vertigo-induced* hallucination. then not only laurel but prometheus himself show up out of nowhere and my mind was completely blown!!!
the majority of this episode was sold almost entirely on stephen amell's *acting chops* and he delivered big time. whether it be with the stark realization that everyone is abandoning him or that the city he cares so much for is slowly *spiraling down the drain* of corruption and there's nothing he can do to stop it, stephen sold me on oliver's fear of *isolation* but most importantly, his fear of *failure as a father and hero.*
amell pretty much holding up *all of season 6* on his back, paralleling the *same dynamic* with oliver and Star City for all these years. all of us who have watched him make this role his own *from the beginning* should feel somewhat proud to bear witness to the sheer skill with which this man *UNDERTAKES* his craft. 😉👍 (pun intended) #amellDESERVESaraise LIKE# 155
I oh so desperately wanted Chase to actually be alive, and be the guy in charge of Dragon, and be the reason why Dragon knew everything about Oliver and the team. This was still awesome. It's rare that I rewatch an episode of a show, but damn I want to rewatch that episode. Oliver vs Prometheous physical or mental is amazing tv
THIS EPISODE > EVERY OTHER EPISODE THIS SEASON
minus Deathstroke
Grey Matter Minus Ep 13
Grey Matter Minus Ep 13 and Ep 15
Nope, ignore the replies. This is one of the best episodes of the series, personally my all-time favorite.
Eric's Priceless Adrian Chase Theme Return😂 and Oliver Solo💯👍🎯
By episode 3, Oliver had to go to Felicity and ask for help with getting information on Deadshot. Just saying, he did the computer thing for only 2 episodes.
the 5 *most feared words* ever spoken on arrow: *"turn on the TV, oliver!"* 📺 😓 #noNEWSalwaysGOODnews
Felicity Smoak Queen is that ride or die chick. Love her. Oliver and William have a gem with them. I love her. This episode was amazing. Quentin, Oliver and Felicity are great. Chase is a beast. The captain of this ship, Amell is just the best actor on Dctv . I love him
xyzw 12369 she ruined the episode I would’ve went with Chase
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Gosh, whiners... exhausting!
Thank God for Lance. He's the only one talking a lick of sense.
Bringing Chase back only highlights how much he's missed this season.
Ollie should have said Argus gave him the info.
What happened to that magic powder he had first season to counteract vertigo?
I love rewatching these now that Arrow is over, getting to show my dad the Arrowverse now has been fun
This episode and the rest of the season after has been the greatest arrow content in a very long time.
I do enjoy myself some psychological thrillers and this really was amazing. Reaching into the depths of Oliver’s fears and insecurities but also having his family give him a little sanity back to keep him from diving off the deep end. I have to admit, I am excited to see him fighting like he did in season 1, albeit without the killing.
Felicity is slowly winning me over. I never hated her btw. The girl is a badass. She ran into danger to save her man. What a woman!
Aaron was a nervous wreck. He was worried about Felicity. Awwwww.... so sweet!
This was the best episode this season, and it was no coincidence that Adrian Chase was in it. The episode was written very well, similar to most of the episodes last season. I also love how because they got the actor back he was in basically every scene after he first appeared. He just always was in the background and would add something in pretty much every scene.
I love how Ricardo says the exact thing he imagined he would. Felt like they're implying he's gonna be his worst nightmare. Well one of them
This was my favorite episode of Arrow, he literally lost everything in one episode. Similar to Spider-Man 2 where the hero is punished 24:7. Even Felicity left him, he was supposed to be in court but didn’t make it. Diggle got mad at him when he’s been his right hand since the beginning. And then Prometheus coming back. But the best scene for me was when Felicity was trying to save him, and Oliver said YOU LEFT ME. That really hit me.
Felicity never left him, it was in his head. He was hallucinating.
While I don't totally agree with Diggle's argument from last week, he did make some good points. My main problem with him is that he left Oliver when he needed him the most! It would be different if he had a whole team, but he doesn't. Oliver would've never left him to fight the bad guys alone. Anyways, as a loyal fan of Arrow since the beginning, I appreciate Blind Wave and everybody else who haven't given up on this show! I have high hopes that the last 5 episode will be great!
20:22. I've always liked Prometheus' theme. What sealed it for me was the scene from 5x05 when Prometheus kills Tobias Church. The alternating notes, like a ticking clock, and the rising and falling violins. Everything about it is like a horror movie, which is only fitting for a villain like Chase.
Such a good episode. Best quote 'I'm glue'. Best moment, seeing season 1 Arrow and Josh Segara.
This is one of my favourite episodes of Arrow. So well done.
YES! Oliver going back to square one, no pointless Olicity drama, William doesn't hate him for no reason. This is what the season should've been up to this point.
watched this episode 2 nights ago- no words. 12 and 18 easily my favs of the season
Arrow and Black Lightning are the best DC CW shows on right now. Flash is really average right now. We will have to see how Supergirl is when it returns. Legends is over but that was the most fun one to watch. This episode was possibly the best episode of DC CW TV of the current seasons.
Vinny Ferdinando I agree. This is right up there with Ep 13, Ep 2 and Ep 15 and the deathstroke episodes as the best episodes this season
The only one consistently good is Black Lightning. Objectively it's the best right now simply because it didn't have episodes that were bad. Arrow and Flash are both meh. Most of the times their episodes are lame or irritating with stupid writing but sometimes they shine with amazing episodes such as this one, Deathstroke episodes and "Enter Flashtime" (the best Flash episode ever).
Atharv Sankholkar Arrow has has 3 or 4 really good episodes. Like I said Legends is over and I need to see how supergirl returns. Flash literally had 1 good episode and it didn't even have anything to do with the main plot. So right now atleast in my opinion Flash has been pretty meh this season
Damn straight ! ARROW is amazing .
Black lightning is the best right now because it's new. All of the shows had very strong first seasons. We'll see how it fairs next season, but I love it so far and I'm rooting for it.
This episode was the best season 6 had to offer.
The last 2 episodes have made up for the 8 episodes previous. Prometheus is such an incredible character and the actor is incredible. His voice and his screen presence is just amazing. Wow.
I liked how they used the 8 minutes earlier in the flash time episode, I thought it was done well like the ten hours earlier thing this episode
“Run, Felicity Run”😂 sorry i had to say it
Where was this quality of writing last week? Why can't the show always be this good?
It's crazy how Arrow gets GOOD when it focuses on its main character. And his name is Oliver Queen. Simple as that. Also wow, the scenes between Quentin and Oliver. The Quentin/Oliver/Felicity trio works so well! (I really hoped we'd see The Queens in the Mansion, like Thea and Robert and Moira - it would have been so much better than Laurel). I'm still wondering, Oliver got the City (the citizens) to rise against Darhk on s4, you can't tell me he can't pull the same on Diaz, I mean, who would want their city to become a crime zone?
It was really cool to go back to the original cloth hood and eyeliner look.
This is such a great episode, it amazing how good it get each week. With legend gone, this show now my number 1, on I must know what happen next.
This seemed like an intentional screw around with the Felicity haters. They gave them just enough to get all the whiners freaking out and yelling about how awful she is that she would leave just to have it not be true. Pretty sure the writers did that just to give themselves a laugh by playing around with them.
lol. I'm more of an olicity hater than a felicity one. I hate the way she acts in the name of her love for Oliver, culminating in her selfishness at West Allen's wedding. But, she's very inconsistent in her tolerability. I'm still able to give her props when warranted.
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A wedding that wouldn't have happened that day if Felicity wasn't there ...
You're a fan of Katie Cassidy, Laurel/Black Canary and Lauriver! So your reaction about Felicity is normal...
@@Rosannasfriend looking at the selfish shit west allens have done now, i dont mind oliver and felicity stealing the spot light in that crossover lol.
I used to practice lucid dreaming when I was younger, and how you explained it is pretty much spot on. Once you realize you're dreaming and if you're able to keep yourself in the dream, then you can then control the dream and even do stuff that applies in reality, like learning an instrument, etc. It's pretty crazy. I have memory issues now though so I haven't been able to even remember my dreams when waking up in years let alone knowing if I still do it or not. While everyone has personal dream signs that are unique to only you, there are a few common dream signs as well that is common to the majority of people. One sign is you can't really read digital in a dream. When you look at a digital watch for instance, the individual pixels or LED lines or whatever they're called continuously change and don't make sense as numbers, but normally your mind will fill in blanks and make you believe you believe it says something. Also reading is a common sign. Usually if you read something in a dream and then reread the same sentence or part again, it will say something different from the first time you read it, as the words and letters constantly change, much like digital, but your brain attempts to make sense of it so you may not be aware of the change. One of my personal dream signs though is a red car. It used to be that whenever I dream, someone in my dream always had a specific red car, and in the dream I knew it was whoever's car (it was always a different person), but in reality I know that person never owned that car, I've never even seen the car in reality myself, so I have no idea why it pops up, but it's something personal to me. I really wish I could remember my dreams now so I could remember lucid dreaming again.
"I just wasn't on board, I wasn't on that ship... that's not a ship, it's like a bus. I wasn't on that bus... bus metas. I can't find an analogy."
hafo09 When is that in the video?
Finally a great episode, it’s been a while. This just might be the best episode of the season, if not then it’s really close. Seeing Adrian Chase again and how great he made the episode just goes to show how disappointing Season 6 is compared to Season 5 and how Ricardo Diaz is no Adrian Chase. But I will say that the show has steadily been getting better since Diaz took over, he’s far better than Cayden James but he still needs more work. Not surprising, I didn’t seem to miss any members of team Arrow this week, non of them actually showed up and I didn’t care, there are just too many characters on the show right now and taking it back to basics like Oliver said is exactly what this show needs, it might be a step back for Oliver as a character pushing everyone aside, but it’s better for the show itself. Hope they keep this momentum going.
Omar Barakat - i have a interesting theory. what if chase somehow, during oliver's intense torture last season, implanted a *hypnotic suggestion* deep inside oliver's subconscious, enhanced by his recent *vertigo-poisoning,* that slowly made him revert to *murder-arrow* from S1 with chase acting like *evil Jiminy Cricket* on his shoulder influencing his actions from beyond the grave. a last laugh from prometheus to prove himself right even *after his death.* kinda like what joker did to tim drake in *Batman Beyond* 🤔 following my theory, the *true villain* this season wouldn't be cayden james or even diaz but S1 arrow aka "kapiushon" *guest starring* vertigo-induced adrian chase himself
if that's the direction they take this season i'm most definitely *on-board* cuz it makes all these back-to-back *L's* oliver been taking recently (team Arrow breakup, diggle leaving, city-wide corruption...etc.) all instantly worth it! 🤞🙏
Joe G You know, that’s a tight as theory, make that shit happen!
Omar Barakat - and that's something i came up with in a couple minutes *off the top of my head* that just so happens to neatly wrap up all the *annoying subplots* from this season while being a direct callback to one of the *best episodes* of arrow in the past 3 seasons into a nice bow. i'm hoping what the actual showrunners themselves have planned is *way better* 😣🤞
Joe G I was thinking about the details of how to actually get rid of some of the annoying members of NTA but not only them but Quentin too, sure he’s cool again but he’s just gonna he out of place like he has been for the last couple of seasons when this while mayor thing is done with. What if Black Siren sacrifices herself and make Quentin proud, and Rene dies in the finale, and Quentin adopts his daughter as a replacement for Laurel and he can finally have a daughter again and just rides off in the sunset with her and that’s it for him. So that gets rid of Rene, Black Siren, and Quentin. As for Curtis and Dinah I really don’t know, Curtis is annoying as hell but Dinah might still be redeemed because before the whole vigilante being her ex bullshit, she was tight!
I like how at 7:40 they hint that he's hallucinating because where did Lance go?
*track star felicity* officially became *ms. queen* in my eyes this episode. the only one able to talk oliver down from *vertigo-induced* prometheus' self-destruction #sheEARNEDthatROCK 💍
Joe G she is an amazing wife and stepmom. Love her . The connection with Oliver and her is powerful
What a shit comment
When did Oliver win his wedding band ?!
Felicity... MVP!!!
Joao-Pierre Ruth I know right.
I thought she'd phone John and be like "pwease help him" but no, she did everything on her own. Who needs OTA or NTA, eh?
Joao-Pierre Ruth felicity is amazing. Love her
Joao-Pierre Ruth falicity has really gotten back to a good character
Joao-Pierre Ruth she ruined this episode, I would’ve went with chase and killed those cops and diaz
He never gave them the pen drive, Lance asked to talk to him, and them he left for “a family emergency”.
Man i love Josh Segarra so much! He is amazing! He made last season and he made this season in 1 episode lmao
I have been waiting for you two crazy kids. Your reaction/reviews give me life!!
Best episode of the season for me
I find it ridiculous that after it happened, not a single person in this series comments on how René literally tried to murder Oliver with a freaking axe... NTA blames Oliver for fighting back and defending himself too, stupid...
Loved this episode, I agree Eric, Chase was like Arkham Knight Joker in this, showing the Impossible Space Hallucinations throughout the episode, making everything out to be his fault, just hanging around in the background commenting on the real stuff that happened. It was great.
This is a repackaged version of 'three ghost' from season two, with elements from season 6. i wanted that last fight scene though. Without the vertigo messing with him i think he could've taken them. He has trick arrows for a reason.
Antonio Lagunaz Yeah trick arrows won't help him at point blank range. Oliver has a limit to how many people he can fight. Oliver is powerful and skilled but he can not take on 50 gun men at point blank. He can take on probably a 100 thugs and league of assasins and about 25 gun men. Oliver needs 4 other people. That way Oliver can focus on what he is doing and have the rest do other things. Also having a total of 4 people on his team it would be balanced and less chaotic for the writers.
Yeah what i was trying to say is without vertigo he could've come up with a plan before storming the station. And yeah i wouldn't expect Oliver to to some of the crazy shit, he and other humans can do in the comics. And my team would be Roy, huntress and Dinah drake or a version of emiko.
I Am Prometheus Didn't Oliver have some sort of magnetic arrow strong enough to pull the guns out of people's hands?
Stefan Buruschkin No he has never used anything like that from what I know and remember. Also if he has magnetic arrows then his arrows would all connect to each other.
Antonio Lagunaz Same my ideal team is Oliver, Diggle, Roy, Thea, and Dinah Drake or Laurel don't mind either of them. But I don't like Dinah right now. I used to before things happened in the midseason finale.
that was an awesome episode, it had me guessing also what was really happening or not. But loved Felicity in this episode also especially when she stood by Oliver. BRILLIANT!
I like how in the hospital, when he started “defending himself” verbally, his clothes changed into the green arrow lol!!
How could you not love this episode the best episode since season 2 holy damnnnnnn i really hope they aren't gonna mess it up again, but they probably will cuz they are stupid..
and the argument what Eric said about Oliver can't do shit alone is not even true.. Oliver has been doing this alone for a long time even when he wasn't the Arrow so we don't even know exactly what he can do alone.. because Felicity and Diggle helped him pretty fast when he became the Arrow.
yes, this is a man who survived Lian Yu mainly alone. He fought numerous bad guys by himself. I'm pretty sure he can win alone if the writers allowed for that.
completely agree.
definitely agree oliver is able to handle things on his own he's been doing this for a long time he could even take down 50 or 100 men all by himself he is a one man army
@@yutz1948 oliver had yao fei, slade, shado, sara, then later anatoly talia. So oliver has always needed someone. oliver himself declared that in season 2 that when he started he thought he could do it alone but he realized he needed allies. what you are talking about is "fighting bad guys". Thats not what eric means. Oliver can fight physically on his own but to defeat an enemy he needs partners/ allies who offers ways to defeat the enemy.
Awesome video I loved this! Keep up the great work!
Oliver's skills as an archer makes him the ONLY option to be Green Arrow. Why would John, who is not an archer, insist he should be Green Arrow? It made no sense.
I agree this was a really good epsode
it had me hooked and so stressed at the same time XD
I absolutely loved seeing Chase again. But immediately got sad because I knew he was a hallucination when he started referring to moments when Oliver died that he shouldn't know about.
Best episode of the season
Best episode of the season.
Having Josh Seggara/Prometheus back just makes you appreciate a GREAT villain... He was more menacing in one episode than dragon has been all season...
I think with Diggle he is dealing with the drug problem he himself had like the drugs he got from Diaz so he blames himself for Diaz showing up. He also if everybody remembers he blamed himself for Laurel's death also his brother's. He is dealing with his own guilt but he chooses to put that off on Oliver. But pushing Felicity away I don't see that because she is his wife shutting her out has always been a problem between those two. Felicity has stood by his side forever where as Diggle has left him before in S1 S4 now this Season as well. But to him separating himself from Felicity may get her killed maybe her and William. Diaz knows if he takes that from him it will ruin him.Felicity running to the Police Station their Apartment is close to the Police Station she said something to that affect. Are maybe she did drive she may have been running from her parked car.
Fucking happy to see Oliver going alone. And loved to see Adrain chase back. My joint favourite villain with Deathstroke, really looking forward to the rest of the season.
Ranking episodes this week:
1. Legends of Tomorrow
2. Arrow
3. Black Lightning
4. The Flash
Totally T legends was a joke arrow should be 1
Arrow
Black
Legends
Flash.
I'm stoked for Supergirl tho get to see toy man next week
mt productions Am I the only one who feels like the guy who plays Gambi in Black Lightning is a shit actor?
Legends was the best ever this season and the finale was amazing! So totally agree.
1: Black lighting
2: Arrow
3: Legends
4: Flash
Oliver could solve all his issues if he called Barry there is no reason Barry couldn't run from central city to star city search the whole city grab Diaz give him to Oliver and run back in we under a minute
Best episode of this season just because of Prometheus
How many times has lanced got punched in the face
MartialArts4321 His face must be a brick by now
Is it just me or did anyone else expect Korg to be standing there after they heard, "Hey Oliver"?
One of the BEST episode of the season just because dark Oliver is Back!!! But Arrow would be so much better if it was always just Oliver. Olicity, OTA and NTA sucks.
Oliver and felicity's relationship has actually been pretty consistent and low key this season. Barry and Iris on the other hand has sucked hard.
Felicity and Oliver don’t bother me this season. They are not a focus of the show so I am happy with that. NTA can take a hike though. Don’t want them back ever. Diggle if he becomes Diggle again I am ok with.
The show would be stupid and useless if Oliver had never explored more things and evolved. If you enjoy lonely dark and serial killery Oliver then watch the first three episodes of s1 on a loop. Oliver was never meant to stay that way, the show would have been boring.
I honestly don’t understand how you can hate OTA and watch the show considering they’re primarily the core of it.
True enough. That's why I think this is going to blow up in Oliver's face big time. I predict an episode or two where it seems like it's working for him, only for him to ultimately crash and burn big time...very possibly costing someone else their life. How many times since the initial team break up have they hammered home the idea that Oliver can't do everything by himself? How many times has Oliver been forced to run away because he was too outnumbered? Now, think about how far the CW has gone to try and push the strength of women in their shows this season (sometimes in not so effective ways to the detriment of the shows), and ask yourself if they'd really transform Felicity into nothing more than a wife staying at home to take care of the son he had with another woman. If Oliver's new plan turns out to be the silver bullet that solves all of his problems, that'd go against everything the Arrow showrunners and the CW DC shows as a whole have been pushing. That's just a bit too much inconsistency for me to expect this to work out well.
OK, just to make sure I understand Oliver's thinking at the end of the episode: Oliver eventually agrees that he's being spread too thin and that it's hurting his efforts to stop Diaz. To fix that problem, Oliver planned to stay every bit as committed to his role as a husband and a father (good for him), and he planned to continue being the mayor if he hadn't been impeached. At the same time that he was planning to cut out none of his workload, Oliver was going to cut out everyone and anyone who could help him handle that workload. Now, that might be a solution to something, but it certainly isn't a solution to the problem of being spread too thin. This just reminds me of The Princess Bride. "I don't think this word means what he thinks it means."
Finally! I've been waiting for this all day!!
Oliver says Adrian isn't his worst nightmare but Oliver knows that isn't true Adrian is and always will be his worst nightmare. Also I am wondering was that hallucination of Richard dragon real because the real Richard Dragon says the same thing at the end.
Adrian Chase is great character, one of the best in show, maybe is the best. He made this episode better then entire season, his quotes is freaking awesome!!!
Whole episode had Arkham Knight's Joker hallucinations written all over
This was easily the best episode we got since the Deathstroke stuff and has possibly saved this season from being S4 levels of bad. The reason last season was so good is cuz it focused on its "fundamentals" like this episode, and spiced things up with character cameos here and there. This season has just been *ALL* *OVER* *THE* *FUCKIN* *PLACE* . not to mention Diaz being the most boring villain we've ever had on this show. He's just the bad guy cuz he's supposed to be the bad guy...
Arrow can do better
I was like thats my guy finally when adrian chase pointed out laurel was out crime fighting after a few self defense classes and some training with olliver prometheus is the best villain
Erik's voice is great as Adrian's impersonator
when i heard the knocking, i thought of the prometheus theme right away
Like I said before these shows need their heroes to be solo like in the comics and occasionally have their partners help like how black lighting is now
Roy is a season regular in season 7 Aaron and Eric
Oliver got the old suit out of police lockup.
remember that wild dog betrayed oliver as well in s5. telling his identity bad guy.
First okay episode since the Slade two-parter.
Seems like the show is capable of creating okay to decent episodes but they seem to drop the ball most of the time. Such a shame they can't be consistent.
Season 5 also had some entertaining episodes: the one where Prometheus escaped and killed those guards, the finale on the island and some other Prometheus moments here and there. This season had highlights with Slade and this episode.
Oliver’s reasoning ‘Diggle says I’m spreading my self too thin and he’s right. So I’m going to spread myself even more thin by loosing my IT girl and will have to do more work....’ okay....
I really enjoyed this episode 👍🏾
What a fucking episode that was just so well acted
I'm all for solo Savage Arrow I mean he just took down an entire police station. I think it's time we get the arrow back who took down the League of Assassins and their leader and not the one who gets beat up by random street thug number one
I really want Arrow to be by himself fighting Onomatapea
Maybe all of the NTA and Diggle have been slipped Vertigo too and that's why they're so OOC?
He will knock four times
He was Kapushaun (I believe thats how you spell that) way before he took on the persona of Arrow. He took on so much shit before he began his crusade. With Deathstroke, Bratva, The Island, Japan.. Not to take anyway any of the accomplishments the whole team did together, but he can do it especially now with all the experience he has. But this is going to be too big for Oliver to handle.