@@zooplgicalresercher8518 that seems oddly specific. Do you have any evidence? Or phrasing I could look up on Google? I'm inclined to believe you, I just need something other than just your word. It will also help me defame the guy when I bring this up to others.
its a whole month too before you can be voted out. There definitely needs to be system that can kick dictator mayors out early if theres overwhelming majority vote
If the respurces that can be allocated are only for building new structures there is no reason to be a dictator unless you just want to troll and not building anything. If the resources include money then yes people will exploit it for personal gain
not one mention of over enchancement of items with RNG enhancements. you get an item, upgrade it, after +4 you can upgrade it with a chance to break the item. this is the worst type of item system in the mmo space.
been thinking that too but recently got into albion online and honestly other than the moba like controls, which i would have preferred 3rd person, its really well done in most aspects. in fact ashes of creation and albion online have tons of similarities.
Becuz developers saw how blizz monetized it and want to emulate it. Blizz only succeeds cuz they already had everyone hooked they didn’t care how bad the game was, it looked pretty and forced you to come back everyday/week to hope it wasn’t as shit as the previous
I mean most MMOs that have come out in the past 10+ years to dethrone WoW have all claimed to be "Wow killers" when it was more like a temporary stun. Rift was the one that really caught my eye then within a few months it was almost completely dead despite a really cool class system and a kinda fun fishing minigame lol.
Just what I've always wanted, a game good enough for me to lose my job and not even care as long as I have just enough to keep the power and internet on SIGN ME UP
@@thelightsilent You know it's fully funded by the creator, if he wanted a cash grab he wouldn't fully fund it to completion on his own, using his own money. Also he's invited players into an Alpha and got people involved in the development process, so it seems as though it's highly doubtful that this is a cashgrab
Exactly people like you and me can finally breath and know we have something finally GREAT on the way, the last decade hasn't lived up to most standards.
At the same time though; you should be weary of getting hyped over things that aren't available yet as the past 15 years have had a whole variety of hype, yet the results that followed have been somewhat of an anticlimax.. It looks promising, but I'm not going to get excited until it's out of beta. Edit: the past 20 years has formed a very sceptical shell around my optimism for games that look this good lol.
Exactly this; I haven't felt much of a sense of wonder for a game since EverQuest and early WoW. I retired from MMO's after getting bored of WoW for the 5th time, and burning out on SWTOR after the story dried up. The best sentiment I heard on the subject was "MMO players are like beat dogs, it's not easy to trust again.". Everyone will be cynical or cautiously optimistic. I am opting to be optimistic and placing my bets on AoC. The genre needs a good game, and this has the most potential I've seen in a while.
Maaaan nothing is exciting to me anymore until I get my hands on it and play it. Feels like im just constantly waiting for the good shit to come out already. Anyone else feel this way?
Hey, look on the bright side. You are on the internet. You don't need to reserve yourself or anything. You can truly be yourself with no consequence whatsoever. Within the boundaries of respect of course.
Dont worry, based on their time table its unlikely to even come out in 2021 so you have time save up for the computer. Edit: Actually that timeline states they want the beta to be short, alpha is what is normally considered the beta and they hope to have the beta be the polishing state so a 2021 release wouldnt suprise me. Dono how far off they will be able give a release date/window.
Honestly, I am not believing in "the perfect mmorpg" again. I wish this game could achieve what it's going for, but... you know how it is. We should be skeptical of games which promise too much.
100%. The internet is littered with the corpses of 'next big thing' MMOs. Still, I can't help but get at least a little interested in a game that promises shades of UO, EQ, and WoW in one.
There will never be a 'perfect mmorpg' that's too unrealistic, I've been in most of the ashes twitch streams and from what I see, they have been doing really well with that they promised and I'm definitely excited. But I am biased as I've followed them since kickstarter 😁
very true. but the men in charge did an interview with asmongold and with shroud/summit1g and it sounds like he understands whats important in an mmoRPG. So my hype for this game did go up quite a lot the last few days.
Where is it claiming to be 'perfect', you're reaching for argumentation. I agree btw, not only might this not be perfect, it might as well be a hoax *gasps*. On the other hand, this isn't 2008 where most commenters pull their 'wow killer failure' facts and arguments from but one full decade after, during which we have seen nothing but failed or semi-failed projects which did nothing but heighten the demand for mmorpgs. So basically all of us are doing nothing but guessing but the developers are steadily releasing footage and info which is reaffirming their stance and promises. So I'm going with optimism as they haven't yet done any of the NMS or Activision bullshit that people are being wary about. Who wants to play 'insert game' from 2 decades ago for eternity?
@Shaxx If content creators have beta access and no NDA then at least we'll see it coming, and with no box cost you won't have to pay the cost of a full game to try it for yourself.
The only thing that makes me concerned about this game is the same thing that makes me excited: it's just really really ambitious. Here's hoping they can pull it off! 🤞
Thats what I thought. Its the perfect vision, lets just hope it doesn't just die as a vision. Companies have had visions like this before and their game comes out half assed and people get bored quick and the game dies. I hope that doesn't happen here.
yeah i mean it's not that they are 2 years behind schedule already, they delete comments from their videos and they dont even let everyone with the alpha1 package play the game cause after 2 years of "polishing" they are still behind and they let only those who gave 4digit number money for their a1 packages.
@@Gutigwolfe i think what gives alot of people hope is the lead person of the project funded his own 30 million to help fund the project. He's also done even done interviews with small content creators. He's a really humble guy and you can just see the passion he has for this project!
Yeh, gives me the good ol' Star Citizen vibes. Remember Chronicles of Elyria? This feels a little like that, with the difference being that AoC have made more progress so far but I'm still highly sceptical. Jairus Strunk, you can, but frankly that gameplay looks horrible, and rightly so as it's so early in development. It does not really show how the game will be in the end at all. Kind of like watching the cover of a movie and judging it from that kind of deal.
@@jairusstrunk94 videos of gameplay can be very misleading and at best only show a tiny fraction of a world with none of the issues that a large population will cause. A gameplay video might be relatively easy to make, but MMOs are vast with an even bigger infrastructure to support all the systems such as crafting, cosmetics, combat etc.
There are players out there for woW, Everquest etc that made it their life. I definitely see after 6 months or so most mayors begin those kind of players
the mayors in these games will be the kind of high level player we all secretly know has a severe gaming problem but nobody will say anything about it.
@@williammay4476 well the solution is servers, let the streamers have their server and lets HOPE i get on a server without the streamers, asmongold is the one who more or less decides what the streamer server wil be, just dont go on that one ;)
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS GAME TO LAUNCH FOR YEARS. I'M GOING TO BE A GRANDFATHER SOON. I HOPE THAT MY EYES ARE STILL GOOD WHEN THE GAME FINALLY LAUNCHES
@@lavablader6949 For a game like this it feels like the latter is more likely or preferable even. You don't wanna rush genius, or genius turns to Wolcen 2.0.
@@lavablader6949 They said alpha 1 will release by the end of the year, not the full game. They still have alpha 2, beta 1 and 2. They specifically said they don't give out dates unless they know for sure they can make them.
This sounds like the MMO of my dreams, everything I’ve always wanted combined into one game. My only concern is what the combat will be like. If they nail that, this could actually be the WoW killer we’ve been expecting for the past decade.
@@Kathayne636 Your focus should be the standing part + clicking. It's useless moving because jumping and walking or running doesn't actually evade. Shit just auto hits. Real physics or bust.
The idea and everything are so good, but let's adress the elephant in the room...it's ugly, FFXIV which launched at 2014 is way more beautiful. Textures are ugly characters are stiff... sad
@@adamkantar2493 Don't worry, they will have multiple passes for the animations and textures. There's a reason this is pre-alpha. Expect to see much better visuals at the betas
@@debangan what are you talking about? Have you even seen the monthly developments they're doing? Its looking amazing and there's still like 2 years of development left
Would be cool if they had between node trading for specific regional resources similar to the caravan thing and you could go full time pirate as a means of farming gold. Also you could hijack fishing and navy boats if you have a crew.
WAIT HOLY SHIT, I know Sharif... he was my guild leader in Lineage 2 and Archeage lol. When I saw the name Sharif and that he had fully funded the game I was like wait, I think I know this guy lol. He tried to buy a housing plot in Archeage for $10,000 because it was on the trade box turn-in island lmao. He's a hardcore MMO guy because he would always complain about how bad the current state of MMOs were so he decided to make his own.
@@PotKun if pay to win is offering another player $10k cause his house was strategically located...then sure, Every game is pay 2 win then. Pay another player for their stuff.
@@Firnaka What ruined it, was the bots I would be lying if I'd say I wasnt but only because everyone did. Getting to max lvl was just to grindy. But if they would have taken care of bots more efficent I'd be still leveling my full str bow to this day. God I can still remember how I crafted my +6 lvl 16 bow to farm SP from 0-6 without any fails and lucky poweder. Also wish Peon would check the game out one day if he didnt yet but the problem is just that it takes literally months to show at least something decent, which is way to much work for a video about a game thats primetime already long gone.
@@crocodiledowny2191 You need to do your research then. The guy behind it has put in 30 million of his own money. On Kickstarter they raised 3.2 million. The money is there. It's just a question of time.
Key word is usually. Roll the dice often enough and its bound to hit that 6. How many times have we rolled the dice on a new mmo now? With such a passionate guy behind this, if the game fails, then I don't think any new MMO will make it.
@Swadian Knight That remains to be seen, but throwing in a cute mount is standard advertising for an mmorpg, and considering it got all of like 8 seconds in this trailer, isn't really much of an indicator of its potential
@Swadian Knight you really think a game with a 30 million dollar investment is going to rely on subscriptions to offset its cost? What world do you live in? Cosmetics are a necessity.
Makes me ask that maybe there will be a point when it'll be possible to make a criminal town with a corrupted mayor where there would be no real guard npc
@@Krigohan like a military node run by a badazz PvP guild dictator, I'd imagine this type of node might be the more difficult nut to crack...assuming it's giving boosts to combat related things
This one looks like mmorpg should be, but it is way too ambitious. Like Chronicles of Elyria it may break, or like Star Citizen never see light. If it releases, and everything described actually works, and hackers do not break it, THAN there is a chance for a new KING of Online Gaming.
There's nothing wrong with that, until you get tired of it (and at that point you have another problem). Either way, letting yourself get hyped and support possibilities helps the actual thing to become reality. In his case, by supporting the game, the devs, letting others feel okay supporting them too and all that. And while that sucks in retrospect, when it fails and we get disappointed, we shouldn't let that stop us from supporting, because otherwise you deny supporting and hinder the upcoming of good projects.
this isn't a peon exclusive thing. This is literally all of us that are trying to find a good mmo these days. Unless you by some miracle stuck with FFXIV or ESO or something, that really hasn't been anything released recently that has kept any of us and we went through this exact formula, and we will continue to go through this exact formula until something good does come out.
The node system is genuinely one of the coolest features I've ever seen in a game. The ability to grow and shape a settlement by doing normal adventuring activities seems really fun and offers a lot of possibilities. I hope it takes off and becomes something other games imitate. I'm imagining other games that work well in, such as a post apocalyptic setting like Grim Dawn, seeing settlements grow and shrink as you contribute or ignore them would add a lot of personality to different playthroughs, even in a single player game.
More than anything I would like Intrepid to start releasing lore content for Ashes of Creation ... I know for some people, they only care about game play and couldn't care less about characters or reading quest text ... But for others, it's what pulls us into the game. It's what makes us actually care about the world we're in.
This! I love game lore, but I hate it when NPC's just throw a generic wall of text at you explaining the world and stuff in detail. I love it when a game tells a story through its world and through short lines from NPC's like they expect you to know the lore for the world since you're in it.
haven't read the lore whatsover yet thats offered but seems like the basic setting is "This planet that we're on had many civilizations, something happened, then ashes of creation apocalypse happens? where everyone is at war, then in the end something wiped out the population. So now we've travelled back to this planet(steven mentioned something like that, so idk where we were besides on this planet) and we're rebuilding and our goal is to find out what caused the destruction in the past.
Devs: What systems do you want? Sharif: Everything from Star Wars Galaxies, Everquest II, Lineage, ArcheAge, Guild Wars II, World of Warcraft, Black Desert Online, and some random stuff from The Old Republic. If you can get something from Asheron's Call, City of Heroes/Villains, and EvE, that would be grand. Devs: So superheroes and spaceships? Sharif: Don't be daft. Maybe.
Boy did yall read those unique classes? God damn every class you could ever hope for. Choosing Cleric and Fighter will either create a Paladin or Templar depending on the order. Mage and bard results in either Magician or Sorcerer. Even choosing two of the same is its own class unto itself, Mage and Mage is Archwizard. Rogue+Bard= Charlatan or Rogue+Rogue=Assassin and there's even a gawd damn Shadow Lord?? I'm in. 100% in.
Those classes is fun thoughhh. I do wish we can change primary class. One player can try all classes combinations xD Why is only FFXIV have this kind of features... (The only one I know of, do tell me if there's another game with no class lock.)
NewWorld: We postpone the game for one year Everyone: NW postponed for a year - we mad! TheLazyPeon: Here a game that possibly will come out in the next 5 years.
it got delayed because it didn't have enough endgame content to warrant a high playerbase what, you'd rather release it and watch people make videos like "New World didn't die, it got murdered"?
This sounds like a game RYPE for exploitation.....that many classes pfft bet only 5 or 6 will actually be useful and required in alpha guilds to use. Taking those cities will be IMPOSSIBLE if the dominant guild on the server takes them and holds them. I can imagine a professional guild from another mmo thats been playing together for a decade to come to this game and just completely take everything....the flying mounts the best city spawns ect.....I'm not seeing how this will be fair to an "average" gamer in any way. Even with the grief system people will have alts eventually and they can just switch characters and continue griefing because why not? I see a life sinking abyss here for trolls and scummy players to really sink there teeth into.
@@zacharywood5090 I think that's what will prevent this game from being the "next biggest mmo". It'll be great for the "1%" players, but for everyone else it doesn't seem that rewarding. In addition to the fact they also have a lot of old school game mechanics that most people don't enjoy. It'll fill a niche for old school mmo players but that's it imo.
OMG? This is the MOST I've ever been told about this game in any video ever. I honestly think this is much better than the first impression I had of this game a few months ago... Ok I'm officially hyped.
@@HotsDru i replied to 2 comments wdym? lmao and i m not saying anything wrong or false and in that comment i didnt even say anything negative either. step out from your fan boy shoes will ya?
@@jimmyn7t i understand your caution considering all the failed mmorpgs that came out in the past few years. . I'm not hyped because I somehow have unrealistic expectations because of this video so don't get me wrong. I'm hyped because it's a potentially different direction for the mmorpg genre. . Simply doing endless amounts of filler side quests used to lengthen the games lifespan has taken a huge toll on my mind over the years. I feel like the mmorpg genre as a whole needs to be shifted in another direction, one without time-gating or filled with impact-less features that don't really matter. . Im simply hyped for this game because as of watching this video I can tell this is going to be something different than every other mmorpg. Originally when I first heard about this game I thought it was going to be like 3 nodes all in constant pvp with each other like factions from wow or eso or something. I honestly thought it could be a 3d version of that full loot steam pvp game albion online... I didn't really have a good impression of the game overall and let the game fade out of my memory. . This game will probably be a nice breath of fresh air at the very least. I don't think we're going to get the most amazing experience or one even remotely close to what was shown in this video because not everyone has a nasa super computer, but simply by them changing the mmorpg formula it will be very refreshing and enough for me to at the very least look into trying. . Not everything is a positive though. I don't like the fact that the player base will be split over multiple servers. I think this will negatively impact the game and I personally dislike this kind of game mechanic.If the world is big enough to host 10k players, instead of having multiple servers, why not just have multiple channels instead? That way you can group with your friends and not have to worry about their server filling up and you getting stuck in a queue or being unable to ever join their server. It's just an inconvenience. . Overall i'm simply hyped for the games unique take on the mmorpg formula, and for the doors this game COULD open for the mmorpg genre as a whole. I do have my expectations for the game in check though. Lag / latency, optimization and graphic appearance on low end pcs, lots of factors will contribute to whether this game is an amazing experience. Still hyped though.
I'm worried that this will be a problem with streamers having the ability to just own the server. Like they'll decide to power level a node and their viewers will help. Then when it's time for a different node, suddenly a good portion of the server is sieging the metropolis. I like the idea of some people or guilds being extremely influential on the server but it would be much cooler if it was organic instead of based on real-world following. Unfortunately, I don't think that's possible in the age of Twitch.
At least the destruction of that Metropolis will be watched by hundreds of thousands of viewers, perhaps even 1M on that streamer's twitch and youtube "highlight" reel and not just another unknown battle on just another unknown server between two kings no one heard of. Imagine it... as the godless streamer lands his ancient fire breathing dragon next to the beaten Monarch/High Priest of this once great Divine node he'll look the streamer king in his eyes and then at the twitch camera and shout for all the spergs to hear, "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!" and with that the dragon mount bits his head off and his royal robes fall to the dirt. But what then happens to a godless streamer who destroys the only Divine metropolis on the server? An entire city devoted to the Gods. Do you think the Gods will not seek revenge? That streamer will want to get his generals back to his castle and his royal crafters upgrading their walls further because that next night if he has any brains he'll know a horde of monsters are coming for him, with champions of the Gods as their generals. The sound of thunder is a cloudless sky upon the death of the divine king should be his warning.
I feel like this game has everything needed to become the most toxic game on the market. Hopefully I'm wrong, but there are tons of ways to screw with players and I see tons of communities bitterly fighting against one and another both within the game and outside on social media and gaming forums. You can destroy people's: + homes + towns + dungeons + trade routes + castles Plus with so much content locked between outcomes of wars or who your mayor is there is a good chance it won't be going anywhere if progress keeps on resetting. Also, If you have to reset some content to experience another then not much overall progress has been made. Since you are losing out on something. I think while it sounds neat now, it's too early to tell what the real experience will be until the interweb communities have had a chance to break it. I don't expect them to play by the ideal scenario. Whatever the case, even if it fails miserably, it would certainly be an interesting experiment.
it's exciting in a way but u got a point there, I feel it's just good for very dedicated players who will out live the multiple cycles of world progressions and ones who was able to join a good guild otherwise the game won't be too much welcoming for late new players
My issue is that player homes, banked items, stock exchanges and other economic hubs can be destroyed. As a lifelong runecape player I would be beyond pissed if I put in 300 hour griend to get a piece of gear, put it on the market for the weekend, log off then return Monday to find the town was destroyed and my item on the market is just gone. Plus as you mentioned there's tons of aspects to the game trolls/bots and gold farmers will be able to exploit to screw with other players. Alot of the features are really cool in theory, but there's alot that could be exploited here.
@@tomface55 Eve is too different from what AoC is trying to do. Eve had law enforcement in place and losing a war wasn't as catastrophic as here. More over that when the internet was in its infancy. No swatting, no doxing, no cancel culture, it was in an different era when that began at least. I really fear for this game. But, still excited for it. It's going to be a different I'll give it that
Getting a strong "too good to be true" vibe. There's just too many systems, too many variables, too much balancing, and too much of everything. How can we realistically expect all of this to come out in a functional state, much less a fun and balanced state?
It is possible just very difficult to do. Blizzard did it once but nobody has been able to do it since then. Eventually though someone will do it. the real question is if this the game that will do it?
highly doubt it will good. And it's not even the games fault. A lot of the core philosophy of MMO's, just don't really hit the current needs for people. i.e. older players like MMO's, and yet older people have less time and dedication naturally. And that is what exactly a MMO needs, and if a MMO has no endgame, or time sink, then is it really a MMO? Why not just play something else?...
@@ghostghostgaming5637 great insight. I agree. I want to no life a game, but can't afford to with a job and family these days. So it's almost impossible to appease our crowd. When he said the time it would take to hit max level, I laughed. That's never going to be a game I play for more than just a casual glance. Oh well though.
Steves team has grown HUGE over the years, it has a massive backing from kickstarter and the fact that Steve is a billionair and funds it with hes own cash. He NEEDS this game to succes. I have a very high confident in him and hes team
Love the idea of a server where people have focused everything in to one node where they have built a 40k hive city that's turned the rest of the game world into an uninhabitable waist land
Peon! This was perfectly presented, cut, and edited. The level of clear information were a complete bliss to watch through and listen to. Your work is very very appreciated my friend!
True. The "Lazy" in his psedonym is a total misnomer at this point. Makes me feel ashamed of what I've attained/fail to achieve thus far in my own life.
Yeah the more and more this video dragged on about the just endless amount of things planned for the game the more and more my excitement dropped. Definitely seems like they're trying to do waaaaay too much straight out of the gate and I bet on release most of it will be half complete or non existent because even though they spent a shit ton of time programming it they couldn't get a working version done fast enough. It's such a stupid mistake that so many developers make. They should just create a super solid super enjoyable base game, release it, and then work on constant updates adding things. Instead it seems like they're trying to tackle waaay too many massive things all at once and they're eventually just going to run out of funding and be forced to release a half complete mess in a desperate attempt to keep funding it's development.
@@bestieswithtestiesI dont want to constantly wait every month for small updates that just give small content. I would rather wait for the full thing so I can enjoy it
@@djgolden5903 In a perfect world that is what we would get. But the problem with games like this is that they set their goals and ambitions so high without having a logical road plan in place that they almost always fail to deliver. They spend years and years making their game but eventually the money well runs dry and they end up screwed. They end up having to release some 1/4th complete disappointing mess as a last ditch effort to bring in more money to keep their funding alive. And it's a failure for everyone involved, developers and players alike. When it comes to a game like this they need a much more structured and logical road plan that involves releasing a solid and polished game asap and then fleshing it out to the extremes over time. Not trying to go to the extremes right out the gate. I hope they can accomplish what they want, but I am not optimistic.
This game: MediEVEal Online. . A lot of these features are ones that are in Eve Online; . - Nodes and their combat system is a lot like their Citadel system, right down to using timers to determine when you can attack; only difference is that it's just one structure, instead of a detailed city. . - Alliances and Corporations; because they can grow bigger than 10,000 members, you could easily equate them to communities in their own right. . - Substantial penalties for griefing in PVE areas (in Eve, you lose your ship from CONCORD, and you suffer a security status penalty that can make things much more difficult for you in PVE space); loss of XP and gear from death (XP loss was a possibility up to only a few years ago). . - Predominantly player driven world and economy. . Is this a complaint? Hell no! SIGN ME UP! :D
Leary of the pvp part. I can't stand pvp, I don't want other players to even attack me. Unless I choose to flag for pvp. I am just there to enjoy the game, and see the world. I will keep an eye on this game. Looks interesting, but I just want to be left alone.
@@xdenisx411 Why is it that is everyones go to... go play single player? Maybe I want to play in the MMO, and NOT be harrassed by someone just wanting to get their pvp jollies? I understand what a fucking MMORPG is. I just hate pvp when it is FORCED on me. And no, I did not consent to it by logging in. Do you consent to getting mugged when you leave your house?
"the thing that I'm most excited for is the sheer scope of the project" >Side-eyes Star Citizen >Looks at Elite:Dangerous You win some you lose some with that I guess. As long as we don't run into Star Citizen levels of F E A T U R E C R E E P
The lead designers of the game straight up said there has been and will be no feature creep in the development of them game. It has a set path for development and it will stick to that path until release.
The game feels like it’ll be the next no man’s sky. “A game that builds itself over time and will never be the same thing twice.” Mixed with the sheer ambitions and planned release date
@@BeanGP again (: the developers where pressured into releasing it too soon (SONY) just to hype the ps4 launch back than you cant compare it because AoC is self funded
This game sounds like everything id ever want in a mmorpg and even more! If this game holds true and fulfills all of its potential, it may start a new era to mmorpgs in general
I am searching for an MMORPG depicting Overlord, and this game sounds like the closest one i have seen or heard of so far... I cannot seem to find any game similar to Overlord, would you mind, kind sir, if possible, to give me suggestions !!!
@@Atomic-Blast- No real MMORPG will ever be close to Yggdrasil in this day and age. Not only because realistically, making a skill tree as extensive as DnD classes is so freaking hard to handle(in a conceptual and a balancing way) for any company that also focuses on other games/domains of work, but also because it will take so much time to develop, at least triple as much as a normal good game of the past years (In all types, not only RPGs), which would mean basically 8 years of development minimum to make a game with as much content as Yggdrasil, and 3 years worth of extensions if the devs try to add completely new content. Not even mentioning the tech that would develop faster than the game and the fact that YGGDRASIL IS A FULL DIVE VRMMORPG GAME. (and keep in mind we're almost to the time the SAO incident happened, and we still haven't invented full dive technology). ... That's a good thing Yggdrasil exists a century after our own. Gives plenty of time to see what's good or not to make an MMORPG as good as it is. Though I would hate it having a P2W cash shop and the differences in races killing in PVP(it's said you get more rewards for killing players of the Monster races iirc), even if that's how Ainz Ooal Gown started out. -I would also like a way to convert in game money to IRL money so people can quit their jobs and sink the economy forever lmao-
"This looks nice, I will give it a try." *Peon mentions monthly fee.* "Huh, I guess I won't play this afterall ... but I will still watch the video." *Finishes the video.* "Well ... " *Checks the financial status.*
I'm really hopeful but skeptical. As a veteran mmo player, I'm particularly worried about the idea of trade hubs and stock exchanges being destructible. One city's destruction over the weekend by a troll army could have huge effects on economy of the game. To give an example of how bad this could get, imagine spending 200+ hours of griending just to get a particular rare drop, putting it on the market to sell over the weekend, coming back on Monday to find the towns been completely nuked and all your hard work is now gone. And also if you're a filthy capitalist dog like I am having my millions of gold flipping trades suddenly disappear would be devastating. Also it's unclear if banks can be destroyed too, so you could potentially lose everything in one day Even if you're logged off. Also I feel it's worth mentioning that nodes being reset creates its own issues and it's highly unlikely that many nodes will ever become a metropolis. as there will be constant wars resetting everything back to zero. Another thing that bothers me is the player killing system in regards to becoming corrupted. Sure you can become a criminal, but what's the incentive to pk other players if you're penalized for it? Now I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any penalties for murder in game, however nerfing offender's damage and allowing him/her to lose their items removes any reason why anyone would ever wanna do it, outside of trolling purposes, which is exactly the kind of thing you don't want your pvp community to be consisted of. It's also unclear if you get to loot other players on death, which if you can't, would mean PKing would be absolutely pointless. All and all, there's ton of potential here, but also alot that could be executed poorly, or even exploitable under the right conditions. Will I still sink hundreds of hours into it? Definitely, but for the issues mentioned above I'm still very skeptical. We shall see
dude I hope they REALLY take their time with this and polish the SHIT out of it, can't stand games being released half finished. awesome video too dude
@@Rycefun usually a developer's commitment to updating a game depends on its initial success. If it does not have a big enough player base, their investors might not deem it worthy to keep updating the game. Exceptions are rich companies like square enix (ffxiv) and zenimax (eso) who can afford to pump money into basically relaunching games. Making a good first impression is vital to a game's long term success.
It looks neat, but this seems like a laundry list of features that will never fully get fleshed out, I'll believe anything I see from game devs POST launch.
I highly doubt he was truly one of the best WoW players. If he was, he would be more cautious as to a game like this. It's not even near completion and could be completely run on hype just to be a scam or a shitty game. Patience is key and dampening expectations and hype.
For me I tried many different MMOs Ultima Online, Ragnarok Online, Legend of Mir, Eve Online and Everquest. None of them really stuck until World of Warcraft. I still have flashbacks to the starting area in Elwynn Forest or the first time on a Gryphon flying between Stormwind and Ironforge etc... This looks fun, but I worry about it overreaching like so many others of these sandbox MMOs and I get worried about things like PvE content being locked behind systems that are griefable. Still I'll be keeping a close eye on it.
BAJLA there’s no release date yet, but given their progress it could be around 2-3 years. Remember that games usually take around 5-6 years to develop and release. AoC started at the 27th of August 2018. I’d look forward for this date if I were you. If it’s sooner, it’s good. If it takes longer to perfect the game, it’s also good.
And like I’ve said, they’ve played MMO’s just like us, so they have an idea on what mechanics gamers like and don’t like. They’ve mentioned multiple times in their live-streams what mechanics they don’t like and won’t add to the game including their reasons. If you have spare time and are interested in the game, I suggest watching some videos on their channel to give you an idea on their progress.
YEah there is also the fact the studio director is well known to be a scammer who made his fortune on a scam Lets not forget this and how greedy the studio is, with how everything is going rn, i wouldnt be surprised if they make node locked behind paywall; like dollar spent instead of xp
that system where the aesthetic of a city is based on the faction that has contributed to the node the most might be one of the greatest aspects off the game for me!.. wow!
This is a very interesting concept and very ambitious, really looking forward to it. But subscriptions are still rather vital to the game so that the devs don't die of hunger. And with a game like this I don't mind investing something like $20/month for content like this.
Tbh tho this is the problem with majority of current mmorpgs and mobile games where the game is free and it's pay to win so for me I prefer to buy a game and enjoy non pay to win
@@saadalkhatem3890 it won't be pay to win. however, if your definition of pay to win is collecting cosmetics then it will be pay to win. the idea is to be profitable via cosmetic shop items.
Tbh if this game is as good as it is being made out to be, I have no problem buying a ton of cosmetics just to support the devs. The way I see it, I would easily pay 100 bucks for a game like this as well as a sub fee, so if I can spend that on cool cosmetics to support the game, then why not? Of course, it all depends on whether or not the game is as good as the hype.
Oh god, please, we need something like this, it's beens so long. Please let this game be super good and make the people playing be serious and nice. After reading so many manga on vr games, I feel like this one might be the closest to be able to give me a real life experience of what I have been reading. I hope the devs stay true to their promise of it being a non p2win game and they be successful in what they are doing. Gg
GW2, FF2, and PoE have proven P2W is unnecessary. People love to buy useless glitter and hats for their viewing pleasure. Add in some Quality of Life items, and VIOLA! Money for the company, pay for the developers, and happy players. I think $12/month may be a bit high, but $5/month would be not far from F2P.
@@ohihassan693 they've said that they are adjusting the prices according to the country and the server you play on. E.g. playing from india on asia servers will be cheaper than playing from the uk on europe servers
If you want a developed game with a great community(although smallish) Check out Peon's LOTRO video. I've played that game, and he only showed a piece of what's available.
I think their solution after finding out it may be more that they can chew was to take few more bites of the same size :-D Still... IF they succeed, it would be the best.
Wow players: “32 specs is too many to properly balance!” Ashes of creation devs: “hold my 64 classes” I am excited for ashes, I think it’s going to be great, but I’m also expecting things to be not nearly as grand as everyone, including the devs themselves, are making it out to be.
Well to be fair the first class is supposed to define your core skills while the second sis supposed to augment those skills therefore the 64 classes wont be totally diferent
Thing is, blizz did manage very decent balance near the end of TBC. So it's not like it's impossible. And since then they've only simplified pretty much everything, so it should have become easier to balance.
For me I'm curious about how unique each of those classes feel/play and how/if they are balanced because if blizzard can't balance the few classes it has after 15 years how the hell do you balance 64!? I want to know how things like stealth/invis work, whats the GCD system and more importantly when you die how does respawning work? I'm not much for PvP but if the game forces me into it I need to feel like I'm not completely gimped the moment I see X class or "Oh there's Y class, I need to avoid because he'll just nullify everything I do". Classes need to feed unique but also need to be reasonably identifiable without needing an army of addons, I'd say I'm in the cautious category.
This is what Everquest next could have been, if not for the timid shortminded investors who looked at the popular trends and said they didn't want to inovate and canceled the whole thing.
Watching the sales pitch for Everquest next it seemed it would be so much more. Even the failed pre game Landmark was amazing it it's own way. A real world builder that showed off a lot of what the final game could be. Then greed and ignorance wiped out the whole thing. Even all the work that had been done seems to have just vanished.
@@eustace2c2 It could have been so amazing, sigh. And so much of what Ashes is offering seems to have had its origins in EQ:Next, from nodes to guild warfare to radiant quests and complex AI for mobs, to cross class combinations etc.
Innovation isn't easy and it take a special person to create something new and enjoyable. Just because something is innovative for one person doesn't mean everyone else will agree and even if it is genuinely new and interesting guarantee it will be fun.
Funny you mentioned that, the lead environmental artist for Ashes of creation (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bacon_(artist)) was one of the lead designers working in EQ and EQ Next. These guys been getting really good talent from all over, folks that want to build a great game wanting to join this project because they believe in it. I am very excited for this game.
A lot of the planned systems for this game sound really amazing, and like an absolute balancing nightmare. Player driven systems are just one step away from player exploitable systems. Within a very short time the best possible node drops will be found out and all other node progressions will be redundant. Lots of work for no return. I'm also a bit concerned about the concept of buy-in alphas and betas. Players that spend (a lot of) money to get in will handle the game differently and see it in a different light than people who test for free. I hope they don't underestimate the ingenuity of the community. With all those things waiting to fall in place I would estimate that we probably won't see this get a beta release before 2023 or somewhere in that ballpark.
I'm very excited about those aspects though. Getting into an MMO as early as possible and exploiting as hard as possible is sort of par for the course of these games. Early ESO and BDO were incredible with the meta shifting constantly and lots of high skill ceiling hidden mechanics to master. There's always the risk you get banned, unfortunately; but people won't know what is an "unintended clever use of mechanics" vs "bannable offense", like animation canceling, ledge gap closing, light attack weaving, etc in ESO until you do them. The problem with MMO is that eventually all these interesting kinks get ironed out and you're left with a boring, over polished game that has no room for player skill expression. BDO has become nothing but a gear check and ESO is a server side nightmare with everyone running the same 2 builds. AoC has the potential to be interesting for a few years at least if it ever launches.
Exactly my feelings. Whenever you give players ONE TRILLION NODE COMBINATION OPTIONS, they will find the five best ones within a month, and now you have 115 nodes that are irrelevant to the game and those zones are empty. In Eve Online, the drone regions of nullspace are empty except for people with no power to compete over the good regions, and basically no one ever goes there. In Tibia, instead of people spreading out over different regions of spawns, the same three spawns are camped by guilds who will kill you if you even dare come close to "their experience". I hope they turn the system into something that works, but I'm skeptical.
Wheres the disclaimer about the clear sponsor from ashes of creation? Legit another trash Chinese MMO appears and your like big Ds over it like its the next no mans sky hyped up release that will obs flop. It is clear your opinion is not here! and the game already looks pretty bad as it is.
I have no doubt that the developers will have to be proactive to exploitable mechanics that will inevitably come up as you say. So long as they're smart with it and listen to the community, I think something like this could work. A lot of developers are beholden to stockholders yelling down their neck to make more money hence they have good ideas that go much worse over time, but I still hold hope that this might work. WE SHALL SEE. Im slightly optimistic tbh
@@Mekose It seems like its almost impossible to have a huge variety/give players a vast amount of choices in MMOs because no matter what there will always be a best option, build, or way to do something that there is no reason not to choose.
If they can pull this off, this will be the most amazing game ever. Everything about this sounds fucking awesome in theory and on paper, if it is executed well and polished, and enjoyable to play then I think I found my new game. I am so hyped for this to come out. Here's to looking to 2030 when it actually launches. Hopefully they don't Star Citizen this. This is by far the most ambitious MMO I've ever seen.
It’s looks like a great game with tons of potential, but I’m not to much of a fan of the subscription payment form rather than a one time payment. I understand that the developers could use it to add more updates to the game, but I’m not too much of a fan of subscriptions. Other than that, great potential, and I’m hoping it doesn’t turn out like No Man’s Sky when it first cake out
As an ex-MMO junkie who'd given up on the genre, this looks really cool. The Node system is really facsinating, this is the kind of virtual world I've been hoping for. Wish the art style was more of an art style lol but it's a small price to pay. Def gonna keep my eye on this. hanks for the hard work making the video
game is like pre-alpha footage. Look at that footage for WoW or other games and it looks like potato compared to what it was on release. Visuals are like the last thing
@@CGUWarlord I'm not talking about graphic fidelity I'm talking about art style, which is something ironed down before assets are made. Alpha footage of wow had that iconic art style already.
Theres some really amazing ideas here... and i love the scope of the concept.... but i think in practice... this could be quite a nightmare... im rooting for it tho... cant wait to hear some live feedback
This sounds like an awesome project but they forgot the key part: Character progression. Most of the games focus way to much in the world and not on the player. WoW, Diablo, PoE are so successfull because that is the key part of their game.
I tend to agree. The success of FFXIV is example one in that regard. There are parts of the open world barely visited when you finish it, but people spend all kinds of time on things as simple as costume.
I wish i could agree mate, those games are good in their own right but an mmorpg should allways be designed with the world being the main character and you becomming the one to see and journey through it. It is very important that the world is in the center of it all.
Where was this game when i was single and didnt have kids, mortgage and a full time job & life ffs, last time i had time to play an mmo properly was launch WoW ffs
I was genuinely really hyped for ashes of creation however, all of that was killed when it was announced that the EU servers were gonna be published by Mycom. I respect Interepids ambition for the game, but i dont think it could be envisioned with mycom as a publisher. The reasons being that mycom servers are absolute garbage for the EU community, I play alot of Conquerors blade on the mycom version and frontier version and its safe to say that I dont know if they use hamsters to power their servers but they need to change. In the last week alone we experienced over 59,000 ping during a territory war and a server crash. It is known by mycom that their servers are trash as the community is crying for new servers on the reddit and discord which is where we come to the biggest issue with mycom is that the support teams and moderators are the worst. Recently over 200+ people were temp banned for 3 days because of exploiting in the game. You would think this was a good thing however, These were blanket bans on Houses (guilds) if you were apart of a certain house you were banned regardless if you were online when the issue was reported or if you were a new player and just joined a house and the next day you were banned for 3 days. To the mods you were guilty by association, you also could not appeal these bans. To most people you would say its only 3 days, but most people spend money on premium that they could not use, there is a special ranked event going on which everyday you log in to get rewards etc. So when people went to support all they would get is bot replies and most could not get their refunds on purchases as mycom goes through steam. When confronted by the fact that this is totally not right on the reddit the mycom mods would just delete them. There is also a bunch of drama between certain houses in which the mods are apart of and the ones that got banned but thats a whole different story. But the tl:dr is that the fact that mycom has the license for the servers and customer support is just a giant red flag and its such a shame that Interpid has had to go to mycom as a publisher
I also play conquerors blade and I can vouch for this guy. The game is great but My.com is awful. One of the users on Reddit found the actual servers my.com used to host the game and it was a cheap shitty server. Mods confirmed it was the server(I'm told). Anyway even I am wrong about the server the admins are arrogant and abusive. Support will literally tell u to stop bothering them ( an exaggeration or not you will have to find out urself) and sometimes they will outright try to ban you because u pissed them off. So spread the word, NO game should be allowed under my.com.
I belive this game is all surface and no depth. Lots of systems but no coherence. Why dont anyone mention the over enhancement of items like in black desert online which for everyones information also have the same type of systems like in ashes of creation. randomly +4+5+6+7+8 upgrade items. It is the WORST type of item system out there. You cant get a more superficial game than that.
Intrepid just confirmed that they will be hosting themselves in EU as well, no more My.com. Here's a post providing more information: ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-08-21-new-adventure-awaits
We've been here before so many times. The game looks amazing but a simple technical issue can ruin it after release. Bad netcode, flawed graphic engine or just bad choices in game design can kill any MMO. We gonna need to see how this all works a few weeks/months after release. The reactivity of devs team in the first days will be crucial for the future of this game.
The one thing that gives me strong hope is that the Creative Director personally funded this just about completely, before kickstarting funds. So, he's obviously very invested.
@@realbento I have a couple of reasons, but they are just hypothetical. When the streamer is on a server, it floods with their fans. Queuing might be a major problem, depending on the streamer size. Based on how cities work, it's obvious that Asmon will be mayor, because of the whole popularity contest voting system. He'll rule complete sections of the map, with his fans, because a lot of them will do whatever to help. If you don't even know the dude and you attack a caravan of his, or something, then there is going to be a descending horde of his spergs coming down on you and your group. I just want a normal server with people who aren't internet famous, where anything can happen. I guess it comes down to his fans more than himself.
This sounds like the kind of game that should have been in production ten years ago, but everyone was still trying desperately to be the next WoW instead. I am very excited by the systems and dynamics in the game alone. I hope this lives up to even a fraction of the hype.
There is a very very good reason why all of the recent videos are pushing hard with the 'totally not a scam, we are pretty sure!' Game is a pipe dream. I hope it does well, but won't be out for years.
I bought into this what feels like years ago now. I lost track of it last year sometime but looks like it's still intending to deliver on it's promises. I hope they somehow include a trade packing element to the game..I fell in love with that in archeage and i've never found a game to incorporate it before or since. (BD to an extent but not in the same way). I know it has a caravan system but I loved being able to just walk from town to town delivering my homegrown wares :D I've been gaming for like 25+ years now and doing quests and dailies just bores me. It was so nice to be able to level up while farming and trade pack running. Fingers crossed :D
Well I just saw in a developer update that one of the landmounts are "mules" with actual cargo space. So it seems that would into your idea of loading up your own horse with bunch of goods and transporting it to another city for selling it, imo kinda interesting trade system. And ofc only small part of the entire trade system as there will be trading routes by caravans on lands and by ship on sea.
It seems like a jack of all trades kind of game, which is worrisome. I would rather have quality over quantity. Here's to hoping they aren't in over their head.
@@michaelreyes8879 There's so many failed concepts from previous MMOs crammed into this game, it kind of turned me off from this game. The corruption system is basically BDO's karma system which is the biggest piece of shit ever and it only sided with griefers. Caravans are a griefer nightmare, the combat looks 1 to 1 with GW2(which is not necessarily bad, but it's 2020 and the game's combat looks stiff as a rock), the mayor system is easily prone to griefing, the lack of no party finder makes everything 10 times more tedious. I really hate it when devs make their games more tedious on purpose just to promote "replayability"(i'm looking at you GGG)
@@satindrajakhari8152 hahahaaaa I wish I could play the really good pc games but without a good computer you can’t do too much. And my no tech person so I’m not touching anything in my computer
Yep. Do what I do. Forget it exists. The moment you hear that it's actually going to be releasing soon, look into it a bit. Don't hype yourself, don't prepare to be amazed. Just try it, and see how it is. If it's great, THAT is when you let all the hype come out.
![MMORPG за 39 000 РУБЛЕЙ! - Ashes of Creation. Первые впечатления [ЗЗВ Лайт #35]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bvGvzXY7Vjw/mqdefault.jpg)
The guy invested $30 million in Ashes of Creation is truly the ultimate sovereign majestic supreme king nerd of nerds. Steven Sharif is the man.
All hail, Lord of the Nerds
Shit even has a core of 250k players playing for a year, he'll see a return of investment.
@@zooplgicalresercher8518 that seems oddly specific. Do you have any evidence? Or phrasing I could look up on Google?
I'm inclined to believe you, I just need something other than just your word. It will also help me defame the guy when I bring this up to others.
@@zooplgicalresercher8518 exept it is not.
who the fook is that guy!
"As mayor you get to allocate resources, set the tax rate..."
Me: *ready to become a dictator*
its a whole month too before you can be voted out. There definitely needs to be system that can kick dictator mayors out early if theres overwhelming majority vote
See Also: Cities Skylines
@@MrJesvi The system is : Everyone leaves the node, thus deleveling it. Or you lose all the resources required to fund the node.
"We set tax rate..."
*Soviet theme plays*
If the respurces that can be allocated are only for building new structures there is no reason to be a dictator unless you just want to troll and not building anything. If the resources include money then yes people will exploit it for personal gain
It honestly sounds too good to be true so just fingers crossed
U knw its going to be ass any mmo player should knw this by now. Release with barely any content no endgame and sht gameplay
It better be good 30 million is a lot
The map would be twice the size of skyrim.
not one mention of over enchancement of items with RNG enhancements. you get an item, upgrade it, after +4 you can upgrade it with a chance to break the item. this is the worst type of item system in the mmo space.
They released a battle royale mid development......... Can't wait to see this go like everquest next. "IT just wasn't fun hurrr hurrr hurrr"
This is the mmo I dreamed of 15 years ago when I had so much time to waste. This is the kind of game that will destroy your life haha
Yeah it looks amazing but I think the only time I'll have time for this is when I'm retired
Or make it.
@Blake Thacker NAHHH I will return to the bat cave to grind Ashes Of Creation for 10 years
welp you got 2-3 more years of dreaming gl hf
Reminds me a lot of everquest 2..
MMOs are like drugs, the first one is a high that you are looking for the rest of your life
Best explanation tbh.
Exactly.
This is why everyone plays OSRS lmao
Just like masturbation. That first fap is the fap that every other fap tries to achieve.
Admiral Ackbar Lmao
it's strange that "Hope" is the only and last word we have when it come to new mmorpg.
been thinking that too but recently got into albion online and honestly other than the moba like controls, which i would have preferred 3rd person, its really well done in most aspects. in fact ashes of creation and albion online have tons of similarities.
4real
Thats with any game these days the gaming industry has just become so trash. They are all copying each other just to get their microtransactions sold.
Becuz developers saw how blizz monetized it and want to emulate it. Blizz only succeeds cuz they already had everyone hooked they didn’t care how bad the game was, it looked pretty and forced you to come back everyday/week to hope it wasn’t as shit as the previous
I mean most MMOs that have come out in the past 10+ years to dethrone WoW have all claimed to be "Wow killers" when it was more like a temporary stun. Rift was the one that really caught my eye then within a few months it was almost completely dead despite a really cool class system and a kinda fun fishing minigame lol.
"took 30+ hours to complete this video"... TheLazyPeon leveled up, ThePeon
underrated comment for sure haha
King comment
Just what I've always wanted, a game good enough for me to lose my job and not even care as long as I have just enough to keep the power and internet on SIGN ME UP
I don't have kids and live in a relatively cheap apartment. I can play as much as I want. 😋
@@thelightsilent Sure dude 😒
@@thelightsilent th-cam.com/video/gI5yPLhDQYc/w-d-xo.html
@@thelightsilent You know it's fully funded by the creator, if he wanted a cash grab he wouldn't fully fund it to completion on his own, using his own money. Also he's invited players into an Alpha and got people involved in the development process, so it seems as though it's highly doubtful that this is a cashgrab
@@thelightsilent Do you know what an Alpha is for
omg. this is the feeling i've been missing about a game for the last 15 years.
Exactly people like you and me can finally breath and know we have something finally GREAT on the way, the last decade hasn't lived up to most standards.
is the game avaible now? how do i download it
@@gabbyv8567 u have internet to search. Its not, its not even alpha yet. It could take 5 years for this game to be finished.
At the same time though; you should be weary of getting hyped over things that aren't available yet as the past 15 years have had a whole variety of hype, yet the results that followed have been somewhat of an anticlimax.. It looks promising, but I'm not going to get excited until it's out of beta. Edit: the past 20 years has formed a very sceptical shell around my optimism for games that look this good lol.
Exactly this; I haven't felt much of a sense of wonder for a game since EverQuest and early WoW. I retired from MMO's after getting bored of WoW for the 5th time, and burning out on SWTOR after the story dried up.
The best sentiment I heard on the subject was "MMO players are like beat dogs, it's not easy to trust again.". Everyone will be cynical or cautiously optimistic. I am opting to be optimistic and placing my bets on AoC. The genre needs a good game, and this has the most potential I've seen in a while.
Maaaan nothing is exciting to me anymore until I get my hands on it and play it. Feels like im just constantly waiting for the good shit to come out already. Anyone else feel this way?
Yep ! Same feeling !
Feel ya
Yes. Ain't got years to wait
Yep. Same with cyberpunk, BG3 etc..
Yeah, I've been waiting for ages on Lost Ark but there's a small light on the horizon that grows a bit bigger by the month :/
Assuming that everything goes without a hitch, and the ambitions are met, this will be a truly amazing experience.
Nothing this complex goes without a hitch
You could say that about any game pre launch
This game takes a shit on New World's face.
I said the same thing about Star Citizen.....in like....2014
Ya, no way they pull this off lol. Too ambitious... plus action combat is just the worst in mmo's.
“Social interaction”, that’s a very scary world for a lot of people.
Me
Hey, look on the bright side. You are on the internet. You don't need to reserve yourself or anything. You can truly be yourself with no consequence whatsoever. Within the boundaries of respect of course.
I survived, no I OWNED Lineage 2 so i'm ready to make everyone my #$%#^
cant handle social interraction irl, so i instead seek it from mmos
If the social interaction is with people like those in GTA Online (not an MMO but still), then I can understand why it can be scary for some.
Me : this game looks very go-
My 6 year old laptop : dont even think about it .
Same with me except it's my job and time.
bro, i felt that -_-
Dont worry, based on their time table its unlikely to even come out in 2021 so you have time save up for the computer.
Edit: Actually that timeline states they want the beta to be short, alpha is what is normally considered the beta and they hope to have the beta be the polishing state so a 2021 release wouldnt suprise me. Dono how far off they will be able give a release date/window.
@@crusadurus Most likely end of 2022 or start of 2023
this exatly
Honestly, I am not believing in "the perfect mmorpg" again. I wish this game could achieve what it's going for, but... you know how it is. We should be skeptical of games which promise too much.
My thoughts exactly
100%. The internet is littered with the corpses of 'next big thing' MMOs. Still, I can't help but get at least a little interested in a game that promises shades of UO, EQ, and WoW in one.
There will never be a 'perfect mmorpg' that's too unrealistic, I've been in most of the ashes twitch streams and from what I see, they have been doing really well with that they promised and I'm definitely excited. But I am biased as I've followed them since kickstarter 😁
very true. but the men in charge did an interview with asmongold and with shroud/summit1g and it sounds like he understands whats important in an mmoRPG. So my hype for this game did go up quite a lot the last few days.
Where is it claiming to be 'perfect', you're reaching for argumentation. I agree btw, not only might this not be perfect, it might as well be a hoax *gasps*. On the other hand, this isn't 2008 where most commenters pull their 'wow killer failure' facts and arguments from but one full decade after, during which we have seen nothing but failed or semi-failed projects which did nothing but heighten the demand for mmorpgs. So basically all of us are doing nothing but guessing but the developers are steadily releasing footage and info which is reaffirming their stance and promises. So I'm going with optimism as they haven't yet done any of the NMS or Activision bullshit that people are being wary about. Who wants to play 'insert game' from 2 decades ago for eternity?
"extremely sceptical to cautiously optimistic"
I'm still sceptical but slightly optimistic. Very ambitious hope they can pull it off
Sounds too good to be true.
ashesofcreation.com/r/1BUZ8CNN9M3J5UEC
We have all been burned by companies making big promises and not delivering. Archage was a big let down for me
@Shaxx If content creators have beta access and no NDA then at least we'll see it coming, and with no box cost you won't have to pay the cost of a full game to try it for yourself.
Exactly how I feel the alpha looks very clunky and the combat looks boring but its still early
This seems almost too good to be true
Let’s just hope that this game is actually good
Right?
@Silent Youngsters It's not a kickstarter MMO at all like 10% of the money is from the community and it's not going to be p2w
Let's not put up expectation then.
Me saying this before I download every rpg I've ever downloaded... Now I'm here D:
The only thing that makes me concerned about this game is the same thing that makes me excited: it's just really really ambitious.
Here's hoping they can pull it off! 🤞
Thats what I thought. Its the perfect vision, lets just hope it doesn't just die as a vision. Companies have had visions like this before and their game comes out half assed and people get bored quick and the game dies. I hope that doesn't happen here.
yeah i mean it's not that they are 2 years behind schedule already, they delete comments from their videos and they dont even let everyone with the alpha1 package play the game cause after 2 years of "polishing" they are still behind and they let only those who gave 4digit number money for their a1 packages.
@@Gutigwolfe i think what gives alot of people hope is the lead person of the project funded his own 30 million to help fund the project. He's also done even done interviews with small content creators. He's a really humble guy and you can just see the passion he has for this project!
@@ItsAkosa definitely an upside. I really hope it does well
@@ItsAkosa Yeah I mean, you don't see Chris Roberts dropping _eight figures_ of his own money into Stat Citizen (lol).
this seems too good to be true but i really hope i'm wrong
I mean. You can see the gameplay
They have 2 hour long videos of the mmorpg gameplay.
@@jairusstrunk94 gameplay doesn't show all the features he said and I did say I hope I'm wrong
Yeh, gives me the good ol' Star Citizen vibes. Remember Chronicles of Elyria? This feels a little like that, with the difference being that AoC have made more progress so far but I'm still highly sceptical.
Jairus Strunk, you can, but frankly that gameplay looks horrible, and rightly so as it's so early in development. It does not really show how the game will be in the end at all. Kind of like watching the cover of a movie and judging it from that kind of deal.
@@jairusstrunk94 We should all remember Anthem and the gameplay they show us =P
@@jairusstrunk94 videos of gameplay can be very misleading and at best only show a tiny fraction of a world with none of the issues that a large population will cause. A gameplay video might be relatively easy to make, but MMOs are vast with an even bigger infrastructure to support all the systems such as crafting, cosmetics, combat etc.
Becoming Mayor sounds like a lifelong commitment, I can imagine players giving the Mayor a really hard time if they are not online for a few days!
There are players out there for woW, Everquest etc that made it their life. I definitely see after 6 months or so most mayors begin those kind of players
the mayors in these games will be the kind of high level player we all secretly know has a severe gaming problem but nobody will say anything about it.
just be a famous streamer and boom, you have your mayor position secured
@@wegelingetje Hm, didn't think about that but yeah that could be a problem..... Term limits?
@@williammay4476 well the solution is servers, let the streamers have their server and lets HOPE i get on a server without the streamers, asmongold is the one who more or less decides what the streamer server wil be, just dont go on that one ;)
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS GAME TO LAUNCH FOR YEARS. I'M GOING TO BE A GRANDFATHER SOON. I HOPE THAT MY EYES ARE STILL GOOD WHEN THE GAME FINALLY LAUNCHES
Congrats in advance!
o7 Pogchamp, man!
looking like a 2-3 year release wait. But the second alpha will be dropping later this year or early next year. Might be worth looking into
you're the only grandfather with oreki as his pfp
grandfather my ass lol
This sounds very ambitious, if they are the first ones to actually pull this type of MMO off, it will definitely be my main spare-time activity.
This sounds amazing, such a shame it won’t come out for Mac. Or at least I highly doubt it.
Hope to get to play it one day
@@sspectre8217 you have time to save some money for a pc, this game womt release for a few years
They revealed it would release in 2020 but they said the release date is subject to change.
@@lavablader6949 For a game like this it feels like the latter is more likely or preferable even. You don't wanna rush genius, or genius turns to Wolcen 2.0.
@@lavablader6949 They said alpha 1 will release by the end of the year, not the full game. They still have alpha 2, beta 1 and 2. They specifically said they don't give out dates unless they know for sure they can make them.
I didn't expect another MMO after WildStar to truely get me hyped anew for the genre again.
Will be following AoC very closely for sure!
Hello guys, willie here.
WillE! 👏😮
Check out Subverse if yu want to be hyped
WillE !! Love u man!
Yo bud did you see asmons interview with the lead dev
100% going Dwarf miner into the mountains to have a legit dwarven fortress.
You already know
Yuhhh I wanna be a little dwarf with my giant axe
Losing is Fun.
Diggy diggy hole
@@Ender13123 WE ARE DWARVES AND WE DIGGY DIGGY HOLE! ... please call it windrose fortress :P
This sounds like the MMO of my dreams, everything I’ve always wanted combined into one game. My only concern is what the combat will be like. If they nail that, this could actually be the WoW killer we’ve been expecting for the past decade.
That's why I don't play RPGs. Lack of good RP, and gameplay. I don't wanna stand around and click. That's not fun. That's not skill.
@@RevCQ7 How should you be able to play without clicking the mouse? Through sheer mind power?
@@Kathayne636 Your focus should be the standing part + clicking. It's useless moving because jumping and walking or running doesn't actually evade. Shit just auto hits. Real physics or bust.
Hey uhh I've been following the game a bit, the gameplay is being developed to have weight and feel like GW2
@@RevCQ7 I get what you mean. I dislike that about some RPGs too.
This is almost like an alternate reality. I could see players not logging out for days!
Kkbgvvv: kvvvvvvvvvvvv
i was one of the first 5000 backers on kickstarter and only after watching this am i hype to play thANK yOU
Well, I will definitly watch your videos on this game.
The idea and everything are so good, but let's adress the elephant in the room...it's ugly, FFXIV which launched at 2014 is way more beautiful. Textures are ugly characters are stiff... sad
@@adamkantar2493 not for real xD ffxiv isnt more beautiful. i play it mainly and the hairstyle glitches in the outfits as fk
Same and ditto. I backed at the permanent license level. I'm still hopeful.
@@adamkantar2493 Don't worry, they will have multiple passes for the animations and textures. There's a reason this is pre-alpha. Expect to see much better visuals at the betas
No class locked gear. Sounds like that's a hunter weapon.
Huntard weapons lol
I need it
You never know what you might need
At this point in time, this looks too good to be true.
It just need more investment and a caring dev team.
They are being more transparent than any other mmo team before them though.
@@debangan they have over 30mil and a caring dev team
@@debangan what are you talking about? Have you even seen the monthly developments they're doing? Its looking amazing and there's still like 2 years of development left
@@debangan plus they have a shit ton of investment
This is the kind of game that an anime protagonist would get trapped in
Too 3d xD
Dude its the wrong year to talk about it
Jokes on you, your gonna be the anime protagonist that gets trapped there.
Sword art online
Sam Blanton HunterXHunter
>ship building
> open world pvp
> human race
PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEEE
Would be cool if they had between node trading for specific regional resources similar to the caravan thing and you could go full time pirate as a means of farming gold. Also you could hijack fishing and navy boats if you have a crew.
@@danfontaine8179 reminds me of archeage.
open world in theory is good for the immersion and logic of a fantasy world but in reality is one of the worst features of any mmo out there.
Their better be a pirate hat in the game. Arrrgggah
Sea of thieves?
WAIT HOLY SHIT, I know Sharif... he was my guild leader in Lineage 2 and Archeage lol. When I saw the name Sharif and that he had fully funded the game I was like wait, I think I know this guy lol. He tried to buy a housing plot in Archeage for $10,000 because it was on the trade box turn-in island lmao. He's a hardcore MMO guy because he would always complain about how bad the current state of MMOs were so he decided to make his own.
So basically..... he is totally cool with P2W. Awesome.
@@PotKun lol
@@PotKun if pay to win is offering another player $10k cause his house was strategically located...then sure, Every game is pay 2 win then. Pay another player for their stuff.
@@ProjectSheeno that is p2w...
@@eeropyorre9552 no, it's called an mmo. The players have a choice not to sell.
I didn't think new mmorpgs were still a thing
world of warcraft
@@derikfry7987 "new"
@@eliteexpression oops i forgot to read hehe
@Daniel M i know but hes talking like brand new mmorpg games coming out not current ones still going
This game will definitely be a revolution with the node system.
The caravan system reminds me of Silkroad with the traders, hunters and thieves. Very cool
Someone else who played Silkroad! Game got completely ruined by greedy p2w
Silkroad jeez lol took me forever to get my glavie main too level 50 lol
@@Firnaka What ruined it, was the bots I would be lying if I'd say I wasnt but only because everyone did. Getting to max lvl was just to grindy. But if they would have taken care of bots more efficent I'd be still leveling my full str bow to this day. God I can still remember how I crafted my +6 lvl 16 bow to farm SP from 0-6 without any fails and lucky poweder. Also wish Peon would check the game out one day if he didnt yet but the problem is just that it takes literally months to show at least something decent, which is way to much work for a video about a game thats primetime already long gone.
Yes exactly same, the best trading system ever made rly... was thinking the same
perfection
I really hope they can pull this off, this is literally everything I’ve wanted in an mmo, I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on this one
I see a lot of people saying this every time a new mmorpg like this comes around and its always a disappointment, lets hope this one isnt.
@@Inlinetom It's the first time I've said it.
Problem is you need millions and millions to make the game they are saying they are making. I just don’t believe it
@@crocodiledowny2191 You need to do your research then. The guy behind it has put in 30 million of his own money. On Kickstarter they raised 3.2 million. The money is there. It's just a question of time.
@@jarleskogly8388 I really hope it does work cause I have been needing a new mmorpg to play
That age old saying: "if it seems too good to be true, it usually is". Will be checking it out IF it ever releases with all these promises.
Key word is usually. Roll the dice often enough and its bound to hit that 6. How many times have we rolled the dice on a new mmo now? With such a passionate guy behind this, if the game fails, then I don't think any new MMO will make it.
ArcheAge flashbacks. Promised the moon, gave us Kraft singles
@@jarleskogly8388 Well in recent days, obviously theres bound to be amazing games with new technology eventually.
Chronicles of Elyria ftw.
And whether or not it even runs.
when i heard the very limited dragon eggs for a flying mount i both got very excited but also hit with existential dread .
i hope you'll be able to share a flying mount with your friends/guildies if you get one
@@WolffangPL Flying mounts can only be used by community leaders. The flying part of them anyway. So mayors and kings etc
@@jairusstrunk94 Yeah I heard about it and i wondered if said community leaders could share them with friends
As in let someone ride the mount for a while
@@WolffangPL Highly Doubtful
I just can't do another mmo, I don't have any more time to give-
*Sees otter mount*
Where do I sign up
@Swadian Knight God forbid people like... things?
@Swadian Knight That remains to be seen, but throwing in a cute mount is standard advertising for an mmorpg, and considering it got all of like 8 seconds in this trailer, isn't really much of an indicator of its potential
@Swadian Knight you really think a game with a 30 million dollar investment is going to rely on subscriptions to offset its cost? What world do you live in? Cosmetics are a necessity.
@Swadian Knight eso aint dead
pretty much me in a nutshell.
I’d like to create a band of mercenaries that hunt bounties, protect caravans, aid with other guild’s activities under paid contracts, etc. 🤙🏾
I too was thinking about this haha. Wonder how wealthy you could get by being good at zerging caravans lol.
@@stephanlemmon3594 Zerging? a fellow Starcraft fan?
Makes me ask that maybe there will be a point when it'll be possible to make a criminal town with a corrupted mayor where there would be no real guard npc
@@jarredstewart9890 At this point it's become a standard MMO term for big groups of people mindlessly swarming an enemy
@@Krigohan like a military node run by a badazz PvP guild dictator, I'd imagine this type of node might be the more difficult nut to crack...assuming it's giving boosts to combat related things
CONGRATULATION to over million watchers :) It proves how many people truly are looking for good mmorpg.
some are just looking for the next game that's gonna revolutionize the market :)
(not necessarily mmorpg)
This one looks like mmorpg should be, but it is way too ambitious. Like Chronicles of Elyria it may break, or like Star Citizen never see light.
If it releases, and everything described actually works, and hackers do not break it, THAN there is a chance for a new KING of Online Gaming.
@@andelskaar2656 Could but I think subscription is too much to ask for nowadays.
@Chris Maybe, but if the game itself encourage good behavior, community can be better too. As have been seen with GW2 for example.
@@grivza Final Fantasy and WoW glide with it. If the game is good, it matters not.
I just realized i watch 26min of ad
Do you regret it?
@@thejakelcollective5886 HELL NO
"29 minute in depth video"
You can play dice inside the pub, I'm sold
Our lives will be gone when this comes out
Tibia had this in 1997.
I am likely going to start a casino, or a hosting facility charging a commission for trades.
26:12
The trademarked Peon MMO Formula:
1. Notice it First
2. Hype
3. MORE HYPE!!
4. Review
5. Disappointment
6. Repeat step 1.
Pretty sad but accurate. Ofc you want an unbelievably good mmorpg, but peon shouldn't be hyped up by developer's information.
Peon: "EXCITING MMO!"
Me: "Yes this appears to be a generic MMO..."
There's nothing wrong with that, until you get tired of it (and at that point you have another problem).
Either way, letting yourself get hyped and support possibilities helps the actual thing to become reality. In his case, by supporting the game, the devs, letting others feel okay supporting them too and all that. And while that sucks in retrospect, when it fails and we get disappointed, we shouldn't let that stop us from supporting, because otherwise you deny supporting and hinder the upcoming of good projects.
this isn't a peon exclusive thing. This is literally all of us that are trying to find a good mmo these days. Unless you by some miracle stuck with FFXIV or ESO or something, that really hasn't been anything released recently that has kept any of us and we went through this exact formula, and we will continue to go through this exact formula until something good does come out.
youtubers mostly only show the good/light side to things
Looking forward to the release of this game!
Time to hunt Ed down to PvP him 😤😤😤
Woah, this comment needs more likes, he has over 2 million subs
See you in game!
i dont want to watch 30 minutes, i just want to know when will alpha/beta/full game be released ? does anyone has info for me
@@JohnTrompete Alpha 1 is supposed to come out end of 2020 or so i think.
The node system is genuinely one of the coolest features I've ever seen in a game. The ability to grow and shape a settlement by doing normal adventuring activities seems really fun and offers a lot of possibilities. I hope it takes off and becomes something other games imitate. I'm imagining other games that work well in, such as a post apocalyptic setting like Grim Dawn, seeing settlements grow and shrink as you contribute or ignore them would add a lot of personality to different playthroughs, even in a single player game.
If this game delivers on its promises, I'll have no more social life.
In game you will have a social life ;)
Our social lives will improve!! Only 1 mastery each, I will be everybodys friend to get the best gear :D yay
That's sad. A digital social life is the cause to a hermit lifestyle.
@End-Gamer what is life
they never do
More than anything I would like Intrepid to start releasing lore content for Ashes of Creation ... I know for some people, they only care about game play and couldn't care less about characters or reading quest text ... But for others, it's what pulls us into the game. It's what makes us actually care about the world we're in.
Most likely won't. Steven (CEO) has said he want to keep the lore close to heart until the game releases.
True, but they still release bits of lore on their social media.
They also released lore each months with cosmetics items and also with quests in AoC Apocalypse which are all available on the wiki
This! I love game lore, but I hate it when NPC's just throw a generic wall of text at you explaining the world and stuff in detail. I love it when a game tells a story through its world and through short lines from NPC's like they expect you to know the lore for the world since you're in it.
haven't read the lore whatsover yet thats offered but seems like the basic setting is "This planet that we're on had many civilizations, something happened, then ashes of creation apocalypse happens? where everyone is at war, then in the end something wiped out the population. So now we've travelled back to this planet(steven mentioned something like that, so idk where we were besides on this planet) and we're rebuilding and our goal is to find out what caused the destruction in the past.
Devs: What systems do you want?
Sharif: Everything from Star Wars Galaxies, Everquest II, Lineage, ArcheAge, Guild Wars II, World of Warcraft, Black Desert Online, and some random stuff from The Old Republic. If you can get something from Asheron's Call, City of Heroes/Villains, and EvE, that would be grand.
Devs: So superheroes and spaceships?
Sharif: Don't be daft. Maybe.
Most of that list is exactly what I thought to myself.
Boy did yall read those unique classes? God damn every class you could ever hope for. Choosing Cleric and Fighter will either create a Paladin or Templar depending on the order. Mage and bard results in either Magician or Sorcerer. Even choosing two of the same is its own class unto itself, Mage and Mage is Archwizard. Rogue+Bard= Charlatan or Rogue+Rogue=Assassin and there's even a gawd damn Shadow Lord?? I'm in. 100% in.
I'm definitely going to be an arch wizard. Sounds badass
Damn really? In games I’m mostly interested in sword and sheild, or magic, so I’ll probably go fighter + mage
Maybe magic archer? Idk but I’m excited
Those classes is fun thoughhh. I do wish we can change primary class. One player can try all classes combinations xD Why is only FFXIV have this kind of features... (The only one I know of, do tell me if there's another game with no class lock.)
@@AIIXIII0 Archage. You're final build is decided on what 3 classes you pick and you can redo them at anytime.
Lazy Peon: "Why i quit Ashes of Creation - 2040"
It's not going to be release until 2039, so makes sense.
It will release before the elder scrolls 6
*Again
No doubt
no i think it will release before WoW's 20th expansion.
NewWorld: We postpone the game for one year
Everyone: NW postponed for a year - we mad!
TheLazyPeon: Here a game that possibly will come out in the next 5 years.
sounds unrealistic but then again jeff bezos can actually pull it off tbh
@@heartofjustice6041 i doubt jeff bozos would even know about "new world".
@@artemisftwable Heh people seem to have a really weird idea that amazon game studios is the same thing as amazon....
@@edumazieri pretty much yes it is
it got delayed because it didn't have enough endgame content to warrant a high playerbase
what, you'd rather release it and watch people make videos like "New World didn't die, it got murdered"?
Sounds too good to be true, every MMO is amazin when it's in development.
right? just look at Chronicles of Elyria...
This sounds like a game RYPE for exploitation.....that many classes pfft bet only 5 or 6 will actually be useful and required in alpha guilds to use. Taking those cities will be IMPOSSIBLE if the dominant guild on the server takes them and holds them. I can imagine a professional guild from another mmo thats been playing together for a decade to come to this game and just completely take everything....the flying mounts the best city spawns ect.....I'm not seeing how this will be fair to an "average" gamer in any way. Even with the grief system people will have alts eventually and they can just switch characters and continue griefing because why not? I see a life sinking abyss here for trolls and scummy players to really sink there teeth into.
@@zacharywood5090 I think that would make it a little more fun imo
@@zacharywood5090 I think that's what will prevent this game from being the "next biggest mmo". It'll be great for the "1%" players, but for everyone else it doesn't seem that rewarding. In addition to the fact they also have a lot of old school game mechanics that most people don't enjoy. It'll fill a niche for old school mmo players but that's it imo.
True. Tabula Rasa sounded amazing, wasn't.
This feeling... This game is one of the best games I think ive ever seen
Scared to really get any hopes up or invest into it after what happened with Chronicles of Elyria. 7,9 million donated all gone to waste.
@@cptcap7531 if you never try, you’ll never succeed.
dude the feeling is hitting so hard
@@cptcap7531 thing is this game was fully backed by 1 man with a vision. Its usually these type of people with dreams that get the job done right
OMG? This is the MOST I've ever been told about this game in any video ever. I honestly think this is much better than the first impression I had of this game a few months ago...
Ok I'm officially hyped.
you shouldnt. just yet.
I'm cautiously optimistic at best. Ambition and promises are nothing without proper execution and development.
@@jimmyn7t dude you are weird af under every comment talking negative about the game. You are obsessed
@@HotsDru i replied to 2 comments wdym? lmao and i m not saying anything wrong or false and in that comment i didnt even say anything negative either. step out from your fan boy shoes will ya?
@@jimmyn7t i understand your caution considering all the failed mmorpgs that came out in the past few years.
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I'm not hyped because I somehow have unrealistic expectations because of this video so don't get me wrong. I'm hyped because it's a potentially different direction for the mmorpg genre.
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Simply doing endless amounts of filler side quests used to lengthen the games lifespan has taken a huge toll on my mind over the years. I feel like the mmorpg genre as a whole needs to be shifted in another direction, one without time-gating or filled with impact-less features that don't really matter.
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Im simply hyped for this game because as of watching this video I can tell this is going to be something different than every other mmorpg. Originally when I first heard about this game I thought it was going to be like 3 nodes all in constant pvp with each other like factions from wow or eso or something. I honestly thought it could be a 3d version of that full loot steam pvp game albion online... I didn't really have a good impression of the game overall and let the game fade out of my memory.
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This game will probably be a nice breath of fresh air at the very least. I don't think we're going to get the most amazing experience or one even remotely close to what was shown in this video because not everyone has a nasa super computer, but simply by them changing the mmorpg formula it will be very refreshing and enough for me to at the very least look into trying.
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Not everything is a positive though. I don't like the fact that the player base will be split over multiple servers. I think this will negatively impact the game and I personally dislike this kind of game mechanic.If the world is big enough to host 10k players, instead of having multiple servers, why not just have multiple channels instead? That way you can group with your friends and not have to worry about their server filling up and you getting stuck in a queue or being unable to ever join their server. It's just an inconvenience.
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Overall i'm simply hyped for the games unique take on the mmorpg formula, and for the doors this game COULD open for the mmorpg genre as a whole. I do have my expectations for the game in check though. Lag / latency, optimization and graphic appearance on low end pcs, lots of factors will contribute to whether this game is an amazing experience. Still hyped though.
I'm worried that this will be a problem with streamers having the ability to just own the server. Like they'll decide to power level a node and their viewers will help. Then when it's time for a different node, suddenly a good portion of the server is sieging the metropolis. I like the idea of some people or guilds being extremely influential on the server but it would be much cooler if it was organic instead of based on real-world following. Unfortunately, I don't think that's possible in the age of Twitch.
At least the destruction of that Metropolis will be watched by hundreds of thousands of viewers, perhaps even 1M on that streamer's twitch and youtube "highlight" reel and not just another unknown battle on just another unknown server between two kings no one heard of. Imagine it... as the godless streamer lands his ancient fire breathing dragon next to the beaten Monarch/High Priest of this once great Divine node he'll look the streamer king in his eyes and then at the twitch camera and shout for all the spergs to hear, "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!" and with that the dragon mount bits his head off and his royal robes fall to the dirt. But what then happens to a godless streamer who destroys the only Divine metropolis on the server? An entire city devoted to the Gods. Do you think the Gods will not seek revenge? That streamer will want to get his generals back to his castle and his royal crafters upgrading their walls further because that next night if he has any brains he'll know a horde of monsters are coming for him, with champions of the Gods as their generals. The sound of thunder is a cloudless sky upon the death of the divine king should be his warning.
@@Frosty_Tips_ Bruh. Streams on twitch are not as epic and RPy as you make it out to be
@@Holistic242 give the man credit for going there lol
@@itsdakine218 haha for sure. But it aint how it really is.
Keizan Lol it’s just a dirty bastard like Asmon begging his viewers to help him
"Ye a ton of promises have seen it before I dont care"
16:05 *Ight those are otter mounts Im in*
This was me.
Same
Same
Lmao
I feel like this game has everything needed to become the most toxic game on the market. Hopefully I'm wrong, but there are tons of ways to screw with players and I see tons of communities bitterly fighting against one and another both within the game and outside on social media and gaming forums.
You can destroy people's:
+ homes
+ towns
+ dungeons
+ trade routes
+ castles
Plus with so much content locked between outcomes of wars or who your mayor is there is a good chance it won't be going anywhere if progress keeps on resetting.
Also, If you have to reset some content to experience another then not much overall progress has been made. Since you are losing out on something.
I think while it sounds neat now, it's too early to tell what the real experience will be until the interweb communities have had a chance to break it. I don't expect them to play by the ideal scenario. Whatever the case, even if it fails miserably, it would certainly be an interesting experiment.
it's exciting in a way but u got a point there, I feel it's just good for very dedicated players who will out live the multiple cycles of world progressions and ones who was able to join a good guild otherwise the game won't be too much welcoming for late new players
My issue is that player homes, banked items, stock exchanges and other economic hubs can be destroyed. As a lifelong runecape player I would be beyond pissed if I put in 300 hour griend to get a piece of gear, put it on the market for the weekend, log off then return Monday to find the town was destroyed and my item on the market is just gone. Plus as you mentioned there's tons of aspects to the game trolls/bots and gold farmers will be able to exploit to screw with other players. Alot of the features are really cool in theory, but there's alot that could be exploited here.
Ever hear of a game called EVE? That kind of pvp is what made it great.
@@tomface55 Eve is too different from what AoC is trying to do. Eve had law enforcement in place and losing a war wasn't as catastrophic as here. More over that when the internet was in its infancy. No swatting, no doxing, no cancel culture, it was in an different era when that began at least. I really fear for this game. But, still excited for it. It's going to be a different I'll give it that
@@alexanderqueen439 Full items cant be looted. Only raw materials
Getting a strong "too good to be true" vibe. There's just too many systems, too many variables, too much balancing, and too much of everything. How can we realistically expect all of this to come out in a functional state, much less a fun and balanced state?
It is possible just very difficult to do. Blizzard did it once but nobody has been able to do it since then. Eventually though someone will do it. the real question is if this the game that will do it?
highly doubt it will good. And it's not even the games fault. A lot of the core philosophy of MMO's, just don't really hit the current needs for people. i.e. older players like MMO's, and yet older people have less time and dedication naturally. And that is what exactly a MMO needs, and if a MMO has no endgame, or time sink, then is it really a MMO? Why not just play something else?...
@@ghostghostgaming5637 True. I myself will be watching the games development though to see how it turns out. there's always that chance.
@@ghostghostgaming5637 great insight. I agree. I want to no life a game, but can't afford to with a job and family these days. So it's almost impossible to appease our crowd.
When he said the time it would take to hit max level, I laughed. That's never going to be a game I play for more than just a casual glance. Oh well though.
Steves team has grown HUGE over the years, it has a massive backing from kickstarter and the fact that Steve is a billionair and funds it with hes own cash. He NEEDS this game to succes. I have a very high confident in him and hes team
When he mentioned the wiki I was like
"Time to read the whole site and its source code"
Lol 😂
Love the idea of a server where people have focused everything in to one node where they have built a 40k hive city that's turned the rest of the game world into an uninhabitable waist land
Ha yeah!
Peon! This was perfectly presented, cut, and edited. The level of clear information were a complete bliss to watch through and listen to. Your work is very very appreciated my friend!
True. The "Lazy" in his psedonym is a total misnomer at this point. Makes me feel ashamed of what I've attained/fail to achieve thus far in my own life.
1:25 Hears: "The sheer scope of the game."
What experience has taught me: Most likely it will fail at delivering half what it sets out to do.
Either will be underwhelming or will take like 6 more years of development
Yeah the more and more this video dragged on about the just endless amount of things planned for the game the more and more my excitement dropped. Definitely seems like they're trying to do waaaaay too much straight out of the gate and I bet on release most of it will be half complete or non existent because even though they spent a shit ton of time programming it they couldn't get a working version done fast enough. It's such a stupid mistake that so many developers make. They should just create a super solid super enjoyable base game, release it, and then work on constant updates adding things. Instead it seems like they're trying to tackle waaay too many massive things all at once and they're eventually just going to run out of funding and be forced to release a half complete mess in a desperate attempt to keep funding it's development.
@@bestieswithtesties Preach.
@@bestieswithtestiesI dont want to constantly wait every month for small updates that just give small content. I would rather wait for the full thing so I can enjoy it
@@djgolden5903 In a perfect world that is what we would get. But the problem with games like this is that they set their goals and ambitions so high without having a logical road plan in place that they almost always fail to deliver. They spend years and years making their game but eventually the money well runs dry and they end up screwed. They end up having to release some 1/4th complete disappointing mess as a last ditch effort to bring in more money to keep their funding alive. And it's a failure for everyone involved, developers and players alike. When it comes to a game like this they need a much more structured and logical road plan that involves releasing a solid and polished game asap and then fleshing it out to the extremes over time. Not trying to go to the extremes right out the gate. I hope they can accomplish what they want, but I am not optimistic.
This game: MediEVEal Online.
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A lot of these features are ones that are in Eve Online;
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- Nodes and their combat system is a lot like their Citadel system, right down to using timers to determine when you can attack; only difference is that it's just one structure, instead of a detailed city.
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- Alliances and Corporations; because they can grow bigger than 10,000 members, you could easily equate them to communities in their own right.
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- Substantial penalties for griefing in PVE areas (in Eve, you lose your ship from CONCORD, and you suffer a security status penalty that can make things much more difficult for you in PVE space); loss of XP and gear from death (XP loss was a possibility up to only a few years ago).
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- Predominantly player driven world and economy.
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Is this a complaint? Hell no! SIGN ME UP! :D
Servers in Ashes of Creation are announced to cap at 10k concurrent players. So no 10k alliances
AoC has everything best from mmorpgs, I cannot wait for the game, LazyPeon should have waited a bit with this video... I''m too hyped up for it
Leary of the pvp part. I can't stand pvp, I don't want other players to even attack me. Unless I choose to flag for pvp. I am just there to enjoy the game, and see the world. I will keep an eye on this game. Looks interesting, but I just want to be left alone.
@@marclytle644 then play skyrim, not mmorpg, mmorpg means massively multiplayer online rp game...
@@xdenisx411 Why is it that is everyones go to... go play single player? Maybe I want to play in the MMO, and NOT be harrassed by someone just wanting to get their pvp jollies?
I understand what a fucking MMORPG is. I just hate pvp when it is FORCED on me. And no, I did not consent to it by logging in. Do you consent to getting mugged when you leave your house?
"the thing that I'm most excited for is the sheer scope of the project"
>Side-eyes Star Citizen
>Looks at Elite:Dangerous
You win some you lose some with that I guess. As long as we don't run into Star Citizen levels of F E A T U R E C R E E P
The lead designers of the game straight up said there has been and will be no feature creep in the development of them game. It has a set path for development and it will stick to that path until release.
yeah just watch the interview with asmongold they speak exactly about this
The game feels like it’ll be the next no man’s sky. “A game that builds itself over time and will never be the same thing twice.” Mixed with the sheer ambitions and planned release date
@@BeanGP again (: the developers where pressured into releasing it too soon (SONY) just to hype the ps4 launch back than you cant compare it because AoC is self funded
This game sounds like everything id ever want in a mmorpg and even more! If this game holds true and fulfills all of its potential, it may start a new era to mmorpgs in general
The first thing got into my mind, "no p2w, so there's no guild like ainz ooal gown"
I am searching for an MMORPG depicting Overlord, and this game sounds like the closest one i have seen or heard of so far... I cannot seem to find any game similar to Overlord, would you mind, kind sir, if possible, to give me suggestions !!!
@@Atomic-Blast- this game is possibly the closest thing to Yggdrasil that we are going to get considering Overlord takes place 100 years from now
@@Atomic-Blast- No real MMORPG will ever be close to Yggdrasil in this day and age. Not only because realistically, making a skill tree as extensive as DnD classes is so freaking hard to handle(in a conceptual and a balancing way) for any company that also focuses on other games/domains of work, but also because it will take so much time to develop, at least triple as much as a normal good game of the past years (In all types, not only RPGs), which would mean basically 8 years of development minimum to make a game with as much content as Yggdrasil, and 3 years worth of extensions if the devs try to add completely new content.
Not even mentioning the tech that would develop faster than the game and the fact that YGGDRASIL IS A FULL DIVE VRMMORPG GAME. (and keep in mind we're almost to the time the SAO incident happened, and we still haven't invented full dive technology).
... That's a good thing Yggdrasil exists a century after our own. Gives plenty of time to see what's good or not to make an MMORPG as good as it is. Though I would hate it having a P2W cash shop and the differences in races killing in PVP(it's said you get more rewards for killing players of the Monster races iirc), even if that's how Ainz Ooal Gown started out.
-I would also like a way to convert in game money to IRL money so people can quit their jobs and sink the economy forever lmao-
@@TorManiak Also to note that D&D classes themselves are not balanced.
"This looks nice, I will give it a try."
*Peon mentions monthly fee.*
"Huh, I guess I won't play this afterall ... but I will still watch the video."
*Finishes the video.*
"Well ... " *Checks the financial status.*
monthly fee will allways be the best for getting new content
monthly fee is how you know the game will get better with time and will be fair
There is no good free mmos
I'm only interested in subscription MMOs now. So excited about ashes. 😊
Ye, but also understand the position of poor student.
this sounds like the mmo I wish we had, when reading novels about video games and them being fully immersed in the greatest game ever.
infinite dendogram vibes
I'm really hopeful but skeptical. As a veteran mmo player, I'm particularly worried about the idea of trade hubs and stock exchanges being destructible. One city's destruction over the weekend by a troll army could have huge effects on economy of the game. To give an example of how bad this could get, imagine spending 200+ hours of griending just to get a particular rare drop, putting it on the market to sell over the weekend, coming back on Monday to find the towns been completely nuked and all your hard work is now gone. And also if you're a filthy capitalist dog like I am having my millions of gold flipping trades suddenly disappear would be devastating. Also it's unclear if banks can be destroyed too, so you could potentially lose everything in one day Even if you're logged off.
Also I feel it's worth mentioning that nodes being reset creates its own issues and it's highly unlikely that many nodes will ever become a metropolis. as there will be constant wars resetting everything back to zero.
Another thing that bothers me is the player killing system in regards to becoming corrupted. Sure you can become a criminal, but what's the incentive to pk other players if you're penalized for it? Now I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any penalties for murder in game, however nerfing offender's damage and allowing him/her to lose their items removes any reason why anyone would ever wanna do it, outside of trolling purposes, which is exactly the kind of thing you don't want your pvp community to be consisted of. It's also unclear if you get to loot other players on death, which if you can't, would mean PKing would be absolutely pointless.
All and all, there's ton of potential here, but also alot that could be executed poorly, or even exploitable under the right conditions. Will I still sink hundreds of hours into it? Definitely, but for the issues mentioned above I'm still very skeptical. We shall see
Like winter moon's rpg mechanics bro
Imagine plugging the cable behind your head and living in this matrix! Wow!
dude I hope they REALLY take their time with this and polish the SHIT out of it, can't stand games being released half finished. awesome video too dude
It's already been in development for 3 years bud trust me it will be polished
I wouldn't mind the game being half finished as long as they keep updating it and so forth.
@@hate8471 I'm guessing you also donated at the kick start as well?
@@Rycefun usually a developer's commitment to updating a game depends on its initial success. If it does not have a big enough player base, their investors might not deem it worthy to keep updating the game. Exceptions are rich companies like square enix (ffxiv) and zenimax (eso) who can afford to pump money into basically relaunching games.
Making a good first impression is vital to a game's long term success.
@@johnnymcfettsack3552 that makes sense.
This game has giant rideable otters. That’s it, I’m sold.
It looks neat, but this seems like a laundry list of features that will never fully get fleshed out, I'll believe anything I see from game devs POST launch.
my dad was one of the best WOW players, and he reccomended this to me. and I understand why now and i am so fucking excited
I highly doubt he was truly one of the best WoW players. If he was, he would be more cautious as to a game like this. It's not even near completion and could be completely run on hype just to be a scam or a shitty game. Patience is key and dampening expectations and hype.
@@Disturbance42 I don't think he is a game critic 😂 he was just good at WoW
How does a wow player have a child
@@texasdandy9083 long story 😂
For me I tried many different MMOs Ultima Online, Ragnarok Online, Legend of Mir, Eve Online and Everquest. None of them really stuck until World of Warcraft. I still have flashbacks to the starting area in Elwynn Forest or the first time on a Gryphon flying between Stormwind and Ironforge etc... This looks fun, but I worry about it overreaching like so many others of these sandbox MMOs and I get worried about things like PvE content being locked behind systems that are griefable. Still I'll be keeping a close eye on it.
16:06 DID I JUST SEE A GIANT OTTER MOUNT?!?! Count me in.
Exactly. Otters are like the colour yellow this summer. Totally in!
The fact that the developers are gamers themselves and have played old and new MMO’s, I have a lot of hope for this game
when it will be released
BAJLA there’s no release date yet, but given their progress it could be around 2-3 years. Remember that games usually take around 5-6 years to develop and release. AoC started at the 27th of August 2018. I’d look forward for this date if I were you. If it’s sooner, it’s good. If it takes longer to perfect the game, it’s also good.
And like I’ve said, they’ve played MMO’s just like us, so they have an idea on what mechanics gamers like and don’t like. They’ve mentioned multiple times in their live-streams what mechanics they don’t like and won’t add to the game including their reasons. If you have spare time and are interested in the game, I suggest watching some videos on their channel to give you an idea on their progress.
YEah there is also the fact the studio director is well known to be a scammer who made his fortune on a scam
Lets not forget this and how greedy the studio is, with how everything is going rn, i wouldnt be surprised if they make node locked behind paywall; like dollar spent instead of xp
@@claire6650 lmao. Sounds like he made his fortune scamming all your money. Glad they are going for mmorpg
that system where the aesthetic of a city is based on the faction that has contributed to the node the most might be one of the greatest aspects off the game for me!.. wow!
This is a very interesting concept and very ambitious, really looking forward to it. But subscriptions are still rather vital to the game so that the devs don't die of hunger. And with a game like this I don't mind investing something like $20/month for content like this.
well it’s 15$ a month and you can play it for free with the referral system
Tbh tho this is the problem with majority of current mmorpgs and mobile games where the game is free and it's pay to win so for me I prefer to buy a game and enjoy non pay to win
Or do it like bdo, buy to play with huge pay to win :):):):):)
@@saadalkhatem3890 it won't be pay to win. however, if your definition of pay to win is collecting cosmetics then it will be pay to win. the idea is to be profitable via cosmetic shop items.
Tbh if this game is as good as it is being made out to be, I have no problem buying a ton of cosmetics just to support the devs. The way I see it, I would easily pay 100 bucks for a game like this as well as a sub fee, so if I can spend that on cool cosmetics to support the game, then why not? Of course, it all depends on whether or not the game is as good as the hype.
Oh god, please, we need something like this, it's beens so long. Please let this game be super good and make the people playing be serious and nice. After reading so many manga on vr games, I feel like this one might be the closest to be able to give me a real life experience of what I have been reading. I hope the devs stay true to their promise of it being a non p2win game and they be successful in what they are doing. Gg
GW2, FF2, and PoE have proven P2W is unnecessary. People love to buy useless glitter and hats for their viewing pleasure. Add in some Quality of Life items, and VIOLA! Money for the company, pay for the developers, and happy players. I think $12/month may be a bit high, but $5/month would be not far from F2P.
@@Krieghandt 12$/m is high for a player like me from India, I hope the adjust the prices according to country.
@@ohihassan693 they've said that they are adjusting the prices according to the country and the server you play on. E.g. playing from india on asia servers will be cheaper than playing from the uk on europe servers
I feel you, me and my brother we share the exact same opinion, when is a game like anime/manga gonna come out?
If you want a developed game with a great community(although smallish) Check out Peon's LOTRO video. I've played that game, and he only showed a piece of what's available.
This feels like "bite off more than it can chew" type of game.
I think their solution after finding out it may be more that they can chew was to take few more bites of the same size :-D
Still... IF they succeed, it would be the best.
They're hiring. On their page. So... possibly they're working much on it.
There's about 70 devs working on it and a lot of them have experience making huge games so i wouldn't be worried
More advanced than Pantheon.
With 100 developers, maybe not.
Holy shit I feel like a kid. Thank you for showing us this game.
Wow players: “32 specs is too many to properly balance!”
Ashes of creation devs: “hold my 64 classes”
I am excited for ashes, I think it’s going to be great, but I’m also expecting things to be not nearly as grand as everyone, including the devs themselves, are making it out to be.
Jonah Marx all I’m a little nervous abt is the combat n if it’s boring af for ranged classes
And it will be a problem. You think Blizzard doesn't know what they are talking about?
Well to be fair the first class is supposed to define your core skills while the second sis supposed to augment those skills therefore the 64 classes wont be totally diferent
Thing is, blizz did manage very decent balance near the end of TBC. So it's not like it's impossible. And since then they've only simplified pretty much everything, so it should have become easier to balance.
For me I'm curious about how unique each of those classes feel/play and how/if they are balanced because if blizzard can't balance the few classes it has after 15 years how the hell do you balance 64!? I want to know how things like stealth/invis work, whats the GCD system and more importantly when you die how does respawning work? I'm not much for PvP but if the game forces me into it I need to feel like I'm not completely gimped the moment I see X class or "Oh there's Y class, I need to avoid because he'll just nullify everything I do".
Classes need to feed unique but also need to be reasonably identifiable without needing an army of addons, I'd say I'm in the cautious category.
This is what Everquest next could have been, if not for the timid shortminded investors who looked at the popular trends and said they didn't want to inovate and canceled the whole thing.
Watching the sales pitch for Everquest next it seemed it would be so much more. Even the failed pre game Landmark was amazing it it's own way. A real world builder that showed off a lot of what the final game could be. Then greed and ignorance wiped out the whole thing. Even all the work that had been done seems to have just vanished.
@@eustace2c2 It could have been so amazing, sigh. And so much of what Ashes is offering seems to have had its origins in EQ:Next, from nodes to guild warfare to radiant quests and complex AI for mobs, to cross class combinations etc.
Innovation isn't easy and it take a special person to create something new and enjoyable. Just because something is innovative for one person doesn't mean everyone else will agree and even if it is genuinely new and interesting guarantee it will be fun.
Funny you mentioned that, the lead environmental artist for Ashes of creation (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bacon_(artist)) was one of the lead designers working in EQ and EQ Next. These guys been getting really good talent from all over, folks that want to build a great game wanting to join this project because they believe in it. I am very excited for this game.
I feel this very deeply
A lot of the planned systems for this game sound really amazing, and like an absolute balancing nightmare. Player driven systems are just one step away from player exploitable systems. Within a very short time the best possible node drops will be found out and all other node progressions will be redundant. Lots of work for no return. I'm also a bit concerned about the concept of buy-in alphas and betas. Players that spend (a lot of) money to get in will handle the game differently and see it in a different light than people who test for free. I hope they don't underestimate the ingenuity of the community. With all those things waiting to fall in place I would estimate that we probably won't see this get a beta release before 2023 or somewhere in that ballpark.
I'm very excited about those aspects though. Getting into an MMO as early as possible and exploiting as hard as possible is sort of par for the course of these games. Early ESO and BDO were incredible with the meta shifting constantly and lots of high skill ceiling hidden mechanics to master. There's always the risk you get banned, unfortunately; but people won't know what is an "unintended clever use of mechanics" vs "bannable offense", like animation canceling, ledge gap closing, light attack weaving, etc in ESO until you do them.
The problem with MMO is that eventually all these interesting kinks get ironed out and you're left with a boring, over polished game that has no room for player skill expression. BDO has become nothing but a gear check and ESO is a server side nightmare with everyone running the same 2 builds. AoC has the potential to be interesting for a few years at least if it ever launches.
Exactly my feelings. Whenever you give players ONE TRILLION NODE COMBINATION OPTIONS, they will find the five best ones within a month, and now you have 115 nodes that are irrelevant to the game and those zones are empty. In Eve Online, the drone regions of nullspace are empty except for people with no power to compete over the good regions, and basically no one ever goes there. In Tibia, instead of people spreading out over different regions of spawns, the same three spawns are camped by guilds who will kill you if you even dare come close to "their experience". I hope they turn the system into something that works, but I'm skeptical.
Wheres the disclaimer about the clear sponsor from ashes of creation? Legit another trash Chinese MMO appears and your like big Ds over it like its the next no mans sky hyped up release that will obs flop. It is clear your opinion is not here! and the game already looks pretty bad as it is.
I have no doubt that the developers will have to be proactive to exploitable mechanics that will inevitably come up as you say. So long as they're smart with it and listen to the community, I think something like this could work. A lot of developers are beholden to stockholders yelling down their neck to make more money hence they have good ideas that go much worse over time, but I still hold hope that this might work. WE SHALL SEE. Im slightly optimistic tbh
@@Mekose It seems like its almost impossible to have a huge variety/give players a vast amount of choices in MMOs because no matter what there will always be a best option, build, or way to do something that there is no reason not to choose.
Just looking at the chart of 64 classes I can feel hours of my life drifting away :)
If they can pull this off, this will be the most amazing game ever. Everything about this sounds fucking awesome in theory and on paper, if it is executed well and polished, and enjoyable to play then I think I found my new game. I am so hyped for this to come out. Here's to looking to 2030 when it actually launches. Hopefully they don't Star Citizen this. This is by far the most ambitious MMO I've ever seen.
They will never get close to pulling this off.
@@KrakkenXXX see the world with some optimism lad
It’s looks like a great game with tons of potential, but I’m not to much of a fan of the subscription payment form rather than a one time payment. I understand that the developers could use it to add more updates to the game, but I’m not too much of a fan of subscriptions. Other than that, great potential, and I’m hoping it doesn’t turn out like No Man’s Sky when it first cake out
As an ex-MMO junkie who'd given up on the genre, this looks really cool. The Node system is really facsinating, this is the kind of virtual world I've been hoping for. Wish the art style was more of an art style lol but it's a small price to pay. Def gonna keep my eye on this. hanks for the hard work making the video
Same, this new MMO truly looks promising
They'll fuck it up.
game is like pre-alpha footage. Look at that footage for WoW or other games and it looks like potato compared to what it was on release. Visuals are like the last thing
@@CGUWarlord I'm not talking about graphic fidelity I'm talking about art style, which is something ironed down before assets are made. Alpha footage of wow had that iconic art style already.
@Mister Educater awesome, he got tons of cash to be able to fund ashes of creations! good for us
Theres some really amazing ideas here... and i love the scope of the concept.... but i think in practice... this could be quite a nightmare... im rooting for it tho... cant wait to hear some live feedback
This sounds like an awesome project but they forgot the key part: Character progression. Most of the games focus way to much in the world and not on the player. WoW, Diablo, PoE are so successfull because that is the key part of their game.
I tend to agree. The success of FFXIV is example one in that regard. There are parts of the open world barely visited when you finish it, but people spend all kinds of time on things as simple as costume.
I wish i could agree mate, those games are good in their own right but an mmorpg should allways be designed with the world being the main character and you becomming the one to see and journey through it. It is very important that the world is in the center of it all.
Where was this game when i was single and didnt have kids, mortgage and a full time job & life ffs, last time i had time to play an mmo properly was launch WoW ffs
goldshire sure looks lame compared to this everchanging shit
I feel your pain. I only watch people play video games now because I can't devote enough time to properly play any good games anymore.
Buy a house in the woods secretly where you can disappear once in a while
Jigov yeah full time generic job is way better than an inmersive magical experience
Well you could.. you know, leave your partner and your kids 😂😂
This looks great and would love to try it out when it comes out!
I come back to watch this video when I'm feeling sad or down.
I was genuinely really hyped for ashes of creation however, all of that was killed when it was announced that the EU servers were gonna be published by Mycom. I respect Interepids ambition for the game, but i dont think it could be envisioned with mycom as a publisher. The reasons being that mycom servers are absolute garbage for the EU community, I play alot of Conquerors blade on the mycom version and frontier version and its safe to say that I dont know if they use hamsters to power their servers but they need to change. In the last week alone we experienced over 59,000 ping during a territory war and a server crash. It is known by mycom that their servers are trash as the community is crying for new servers on the reddit and discord which is where we come to the biggest issue with mycom is that the support teams and moderators are the worst. Recently over 200+ people were temp banned for 3 days because of exploiting in the game. You would think this was a good thing however, These were blanket bans on Houses (guilds) if you were apart of a certain house you were banned regardless if you were online when the issue was reported or if you were a new player and just joined a house and the next day you were banned for 3 days. To the mods you were guilty by association, you also could not appeal these bans. To most people you would say its only 3 days, but most people spend money on premium that they could not use, there is a special ranked event going on which everyday you log in to get rewards etc. So when people went to support all they would get is bot replies and most could not get their refunds on purchases as mycom goes through steam. When confronted by the fact that this is totally not right on the reddit the mycom mods would just delete them. There is also a bunch of drama between certain houses in which the mods are apart of and the ones that got banned but thats a whole different story. But the tl:dr is that the fact that mycom has the license for the servers and customer support is just a giant red flag and its such a shame that Interpid has had to go to mycom as a publisher
Wtf, does the guy who started this whole thing know about this? If not we need him to see this, pls post this on ashesofcreation subreddit
I also play conquerors blade and I can vouch for this guy. The game is great but My.com is awful. One of the users on Reddit found the actual servers my.com used to host the game and it was a cheap shitty server. Mods confirmed it was the server(I'm told). Anyway even I am wrong about the server the admins are arrogant and abusive. Support will literally tell u to stop bothering them ( an exaggeration or not you will have to find out urself) and sometimes they will outright try to ban you because u pissed them off. So spread the word, NO game should be allowed under my.com.
I belive this game is all surface and no depth. Lots of systems but no coherence. Why dont anyone mention the over enhancement of items like in black desert online which for everyones information also have the same type of systems like in ashes of creation. randomly +4+5+6+7+8 upgrade items. It is the WORST type of item system out there. You cant get a more superficial game than that.
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Intrepid just confirmed that they will be hosting themselves in EU as well, no more My.com.
Here's a post providing more information: ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-08-21-new-adventure-awaits
We've been here before so many times. The game looks amazing but a simple technical issue can ruin it after release.
Bad netcode, flawed graphic engine or just bad choices in game design can kill any MMO.
We gonna need to see how this all works a few weeks/months after release.
The reactivity of devs team in the first days will be crucial for the future of this game.
The one thing that gives me strong hope is that the Creative Director personally funded this just about completely, before kickstarting funds. So, he's obviously very invested.
flawed graphic engine > they are using unreal, i guess it's obvious choice for this type of game, so i wouldn't worry about that
I need to know which server Asmongold goes to, as soon as possible. I want to stay far away as possible from that server. Lol.
Love watching asmon, but i totally agree with you.
Sickkid621 knowing admon is near you in your server - oh ok, nice.
Knowing his sperglords are near- ah shit, here we go again
Why do people avoid streamers servers?
@@realbento I have a couple of reasons, but they are just hypothetical. When the streamer is on a server, it floods with their fans. Queuing might be a major problem, depending on the streamer size. Based on how cities work, it's obvious that Asmon will be mayor, because of the whole popularity contest voting system. He'll rule complete sections of the map, with his fans, because a lot of them will do whatever to help. If you don't even know the dude and you attack a caravan of his, or something, then there is going to be a descending horde of his spergs coming down on you and your group. I just want a normal server with people who aren't internet famous, where anything can happen. I guess it comes down to his fans more than himself.
@@Sephvion Hmm I see. Thanks for the explanation
This sounds like the kind of game that should have been in production ten years ago, but everyone was still trying desperately to be the next WoW instead.
I am very excited by the systems and dynamics in the game alone. I hope this lives up to even a fraction of the hype.
Cries at hearing "2 more years out" :(
I'd say "2 or more..." :D
There is a very very good reason why all of the recent videos are pushing hard with the 'totally not a scam, we are pretty sure!' Game is a pipe dream. I hope it does well, but won't be out for years.
Fine by me! More time to get through FF XIV.
I bought into this what feels like years ago now. I lost track of it last year sometime but looks like it's still intending to deliver on it's promises.
I hope they somehow include a trade packing element to the game..I fell in love with that in archeage and i've never found a game to incorporate it before or since. (BD to an extent but not in the same way). I know it has a caravan system but I loved being able to just walk from town to town delivering my homegrown wares :D I've been gaming for like 25+ years now and doing quests and dailies just bores me. It was so nice to be able to level up while farming and trade pack running. Fingers crossed :D
what is 'trade packing'?
Archage has one of the best gameplay for me.
it felt like life for me at some point 😂
Well I just saw in a developer update that one of the landmounts are "mules" with actual cargo space. So it seems that would into your idea of loading up your own horse with bunch of goods and transporting it to another city for selling it, imo kinda interesting trade system. And ofc only small part of the entire trade system as there will be trading routes by caravans on lands and by ship on sea.
Same here!
I remember logging in on 3 machines seperate accounts glitching on to my wagon to speed up the process - safe to say I had a blast on AA
God i really want this game to be good. It has everything we need. I'm just hoping it's not trying to cast to big of a net.
It seems like a jack of all trades kind of game, which is worrisome. I would rather have quality over quantity. Here's to hoping they aren't in over their head.
It is and it will fail...I hope it does not
@@michaelreyes8879 There's so many failed concepts from previous MMOs crammed into this game, it kind of turned me off from this game. The corruption system is basically BDO's karma system which is the biggest piece of shit ever and it only sided with griefers. Caravans are a griefer nightmare, the combat looks 1 to 1 with GW2(which is not necessarily bad, but it's 2020 and the game's combat looks stiff as a rock), the mayor system is easily prone to griefing, the lack of no party finder makes everything 10 times more tedious. I really hate it when devs make their games more tedious on purpose just to promote "replayability"(i'm looking at you GGG)
It will, like all the game that came before it.
@@wilkinlow nah this is not a game being rushed by corporations, so they taking their own time to make sure the game is done properly
THE MOUNTS 😱😱😱 I’ve been asking for this for so long
You never played guild wars 2?
@@satindrajakhari8152 hahahaaaa I wish I could play the really good pc games but without a good computer you can’t do too much. And my no tech person so I’m not touching anything in my computer
@@raizaintilian guild wars 2 isnt that heavy depends on what you want to do. Besides that the game is free
10 players can fly using mount per server made them the most VIP (very important player) in the server
Can’t wait to play this in 5 years
I want this now
Don’t say that! Lol
Yep. Ready to see the game become “delayed indefinitely”.
It’s going to be at the very least three years, I would consider joining the beta or alpha though
Yep. Do what I do. Forget it exists. The moment you hear that it's actually going to be releasing soon, look into it a bit. Don't hype yourself, don't prepare to be amazed. Just try it, and see how it is. If it's great, THAT is when you let all the hype come out.