THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT. Will stream my thoughts on the AMA next week Ashes Of Creation Voices Of Verra Discord: discord.gg/tNHaDmqgTz Live on Twitch: twitch.tv/nycegamingtv Discord: discord.gg/EsfdACR7J9
I backed this back in 2017 when they had a 2021 release date. I've kinda just put it on the backburner and haven't looked into it for a while but I'm glad to see how far they have come. My pack gives me access to the alpha 2 so I'm looking forward to trying it out.
Bruh we’re gonna have so much fun on AoC. Long time ago I went against you 3v3 in NW. We gave you a run for your money but you got us. I’ve been a little out of touch as we go through these stale times. I’ve been out fishing waiting for AoC. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos. A++ production. Love catching up with you brother. ✌🏻
I appreciate you cautioning the community about the “FOMO” and spending the $100+ to participate. There’s a lot of people out there that will spend money on video games when it’s really not wise of them to do so. I’m excited that the AoC devs have players/creators like yourself to help them tune up the game. The closer they get to launch, the more excited I become for the game to finally be released. Excellent video as always! 😊
Thanks! Truly means a lot. Yea I personally don’t think it’s a good investment. Though they have now decided to include the beta it’s a little better. But still it’s FOMO for sure
I will say I know nothing about this MMO but am impressed with the community around this game. I have been watching a lot of new content creators I've never seen before and enjoying their stuff. With that said I am impressed with how many of you have been advocating people to not fall victim to FOMO. It feels sincere and I'm excited to see the community that comes with the progression of this game.
A very Nyce video, thank you. With the recent announcements, now Ashes players will know what it means to be "Pantheon Patient." Looking forward to Ashes Alpha 2.
Again - Nice :-) video. In a nutshall - it's quite relaxing to listen to your vids, taking care of our time and you are not exaggerating like several other youtubers.. You vids are more mature and I want to thank you for that.
@@Nyce-Gaming You are welcome. I‘ve been watching AoC since the beginning, but not with focus. Ive been playing MMOs since DAoC/WoW, from all I‘ve played (really a lot / nearly all) I like(d) WoW, GW2 and ESO best. NW was ok until „endgame“. For Ashes I‘m not hyped, but I‘m MMO hungry, although I‘m bit older meanwhile and thus I fear that for time-casuals (because I know how to play, but lack time) AoC will be the wrong target group :-( A lot of mechanics and features let me think, oh man, a lot (too much) of time invest needed.. lets see what the next months will show us.
Just got my alpha key today super excited to be apart of testing this game. I've been a huge mmo fan since runescape. This Game will be a huge boon to the genre
@@ryanekstrom209 Access to future Alpha Two test phase starting Friday, November 8, 2024, continuing to subsequent test phases Access to future Beta One test phase Access to future Beta Two test phase 1 month of game time ($15 Value) $15 Embers (in-game marketplace credits, NO P2W!)
@@ryanekstrom209 I bought mine today for the first wave ($120) it included a first wave key, an alpha 2 first wave bundle, a beta 1 key, a beta 2 key, 1750 Embers (In game currency for cosmetics i think) and a month of game time
@Nyce-Gaming mhm I just watch. I don't care about tests. I bought it and my gf did as well. Because it has lifetime sub. Recently had account troubles. Something enabled 2 factor on my account and it's not me. So I am in the process of making sure that's fixed.
I'm looking forward to the launch of this game. I don't think I'm going to pay to be a part of the alpha, but I am definitely intrigued and hope they finish it soon
This game sounds incredible to me and a buddy we found out about it a few years ago. We've been playing mmorpgs together for over 15 years... would tlove to test this game but I can't come close to affording that right now.. but I will FOR SURE be there on release..... :D:D:D:D:D:D
@@mathy0u it’s quite the investment. At least you guys will be able to keep track watching streams from Intrepid as well as content creators. Who knows. Maybe you’ll win a giveaway key 👀
@@Nyce-Gaming yeah im glad theres content around this game and its development really refreshing to see them get the community so involved in a big way. theres a key giveaway? i better get on that!
I'm pretty hype for this game in so many ways, you had a small mention of player markets and part of me has always tried to be like a merchant and I'm hoping I'll be able to do something like that in this game. RP ofc not rwt.
People saying this are experiencing FOMO like they're about to get a sneak peek at the game, lol. It's going to be spot testing until May 2025. Ya'll can relax.
@@jordanrose8443Hmmmmmmm FOMO ? Nope that's boredom I'm feeling, not fomo . I spent too much time slaving at a bench in pax dei , I'm ready for something else .
Great video. Im new to this game but you didnt mention what happens when you die in this game and im wondering about pvp, can you fight everyone even your own race?
I'm not really closely following AOC development (better not to create unnecessary hype and just keep realistic expectations) so this question goes for the folks that are: Will the game have social features? and if so, how in depth are they gonna be? By that i mean, Emotes, Character Customization (outside character creation), Player interaction systems and in general features that promote/enable the social interaction between players. I'm not necessarily a big social player but i do enjoy being able to interact with other people by in-game means. A good exemple of what i mean is FFXIV or WOW, both having a great amount of emotes and general social interaction features and a good amount of customization for the player. Something that is one of the biggest reasons to player retention and is unfortunately neglected by most MMOs out there, either not having any at all, being very superficial or behind a pay wall.
@@Edellwaisblossom it’s very social. In fact I’d say it’s the one of the only few MMOs bring the social aspects back to MMOs and the amount of character customization and identity planned sounds lovely
I hope they increase the launch player capacity per realm than the 2017 number of 10k. At 10k players per server there will be vast zones of dead content due to lack of player concentration. I am talking worse than New World, New world has 2500 player cap at 1/12 of Ashes land content and it's still a desert at places on "high pop" realms.
I hope they think about lone wolf players that just want to wander around the world for exploration and leveling, while doing some random pvps, this professions/nodes and all of this looks overwhelming if required from new players. Similar to some mmorpgs that you start the game with 20 skills, 30 talents, full gear, a lot of stuff to read, a lot of tutorials and things you need to kinda study before even know if you really want to play the game
@@AdamFunke94 yes. There’s actually a good amount of lore and story already known though most is being saved for launch or alpha. It’s decently cool. Check out the loreforged channel linked in the description 👀
I just hope it comes out in the next 1-2 years. I am so tired of being burned by over ambitious Kick Starters. This game has been in development for years and it slightly reminds me of what Star Citizen is doing and I hope it proves me wrong. I want a good MMO, but I don't want to wait forever to play a finished product. They do not seem to be all about money grabbing so I am still excited to see this finally come out.
No global market is interesting. Does this mean they are going to try to combat websites where you post the item you want to sell and then meet up in game? How are they going to insure players don’t get scammed by other players if there isn’t a reference of what the going price is?
They have huge plans to combat RMT and will be punishing to players who do so. They will have a lot of tech checking logs and maybe even sting operations
Dude that 4 hour one is retarded, its just Ryve literally reading the Wiki. Lowest quality video i've seen, dude should just stop making videos cause he is not good at it.
So far, Ashes really doesn't do anything to move the genre forward. The only thing it did was SLIGHTLY fix the corruption system. A system that still needs more to fix it.
Non combatants remaining so even after attacking you if your corrupted, HOWEVER, you should get corrupted as soon as you attack a non combatant. They were not flagged for consensual pvp, its still griefing if they attack back. Leaving it so no corruption is gained is actually a big flaw in the system, being unfair to and bad for non combatants.
I think it's a HUGE mistake to take stats away from PKers. It's an mmorpg. How are you going to fully dismantle players that may want to play as a "villan". Every good story needs a good villain. This is one of the elements missing from new school mmorpgs and contributes to an extreme lack of "depth" and "danger" that comes with it. It makes the world feel empty. So basically, they are willing to cater to people who play an mmorpg and cry when they get killed. It takes all of the excitement out of the game. Danger is excitement. What do we handicap half the player base? That sounds absurd, and I'm tired of game companies doing this. Is biased towards one kind of player base. You want safe zones, okay fine. Don't butcher someone's build because it's good, or they want to roleplay as the villan to create more in-game immersion and depth.
@@Nyce-Gaming something I am not clear on are the circumstances in which you can lose your Freehold. Do you only lose it if another guild takes over the node, or are there other conditions?
All the things they promise still sound way too ambitious to come true. I'll wait paitently and see how they will deliver in the end, whenever that will be or at all in my lifetime lol
@@Mecanotech isn’t that the benefit of a sub fee that you can cancel that support if it’s not delivering? At least if there’s no expansions to buy. Tho I do see both sides
I set WoW vanilla as an example, when I get annoyed by the walking, by the time investment on leveling up professions, and other things, and on top of that i have to remember i am paying 15 dollars a month, it just feels stressful. Mind you 15 dollars for me, for my country's coin, feels like paying 50 dollars. Currently playing a wow private server and it feels so nice not having my credit card in mind. I feel I can just relax and take my time.
Wish the game would focus on race vs race not guild vs guild. No corruption when fighting your racial enemies. Much better system. Darkfalls biggest issue is they didn’t lean into that system and allowed arac to exist.
Im going to give it two months until everyone is crammed on just a few servers, and then they have to completely change how the game works. No one is going to want to play on a server where certain raids, events, etc just are not happening.
I agree with you mostly. But as someone who prefers as little social interaction as possible in my MMOs, and preferring to only play with one or two close friends, a mostly deserted space where we can do what we want without having to worry about the 500 player guild swarming us sounds pretty good.
@@sumasaum I’m citron this too, but upon attacking someone most will in theory defend themselves as you drop more mats as a non combatant/green than a combatant/purple 🤔 tough to say tho
No, we don't. They're doing it the correct way: encouraging MEANINGFUL pvp and punishing no-life asshats who just mindlessly gank. If you get your jollies solely by jumping whatever lone person you see just so you can get an ego boost, then go ahead and find something else. This game isn't intended for you.
I do not accept cosmetics in a subscription game. I don't want to see a circus with people running around like clowns from overly flashy gear and mounts cause it reminds me of wow and i have PTSD from that abomination of a game it has become. Flashy gear needs to be EARNED orelse it won't matter
With WoW doing it, everyone will do it. If the staple game is doing it, there's no reason for them to not. All they have to do is point and say look. It's the sad, unfortunate truth. Either way, $120 for an alpha tester slot is insane. Not to mention the fact alpha 2 was supposed to be the persistent one too, so I'm good on this now.
I love the idea of cosmetics to help finance a game and continued development. I do request an option to toggle on/off seeing peoples cosmetics, though.
Ugh the equipment damage on death is awful. It only leads to frustration and never fun. I wish I never backed this thing, but did it so long ago that it has gone off the rails since
the animations and movements are as cluncky as New world hahaha. am sure the game is great but small things like that start to bother me alots after hours and hours seeing the characters looking stupid or weid while runing or jumping ..... its one of the reasons that i never went back to wow and many other mmorpgs.
I feel like this game is looking to hardcore for 2024. Classic WoW did OK because of it simply being WoW. At this point its kind of dead. I could see this getting maybe 200k players for a month, and then prob dying off like Lost Ark. Hopefully Im wrong. Finally, I guarantee they will add a Global AH within 6 months after people bitch and quit.
@@TheNichq I think it will have its niche. It’s legitimately the most promising mmo in progress right now and I think people are waiting for the next thing
@@Nyce-Gaming Yes and no. The sad truth is most "gamers" are lazy. They may all say they want something new, but they also aren't going to want to put in all the work that makes it unique.
It will definitely scare off the young instant gratification types but it could get hyped enough to make it into the mainstream scene (probably not but who knows) Remember how hard Elden Ring was for most people and it was a huge success
Box cost and expansions always, I rarely play any f2p games - why pay £15 or so a month for access to a game.. they already have a cash shop for cosmetics, why the need for a sub?
13:45 mehh wont be playing if ganking other people is as penalizing as this. I can understand this system for corpse farming low levels for no reason sure. But not for killing similar levels even if it's just for fun. Also getting penalized because your opponent isn't fighting back is the most stupid thing ever. So I'm getting penalized because my opponent is a pussy or afk? 🤦
@@Jordancommenter It's simple, new players aren't max level yet, they are still leveling which takes a while I believe. So naturally these players are protected from getting ganked by sweaty max level andy's. On top of that they could implement a system where fresh max level players are still protected for an X amount of time. So they have time to gear up. Add a little icon next to their name so you can see they're protected. This icon would also appear on people who are much lower level than you and would also give you corruption. Or (Dishonorable kill) as they call it on wow. I've played WoW for years and you could freely gank anyone you wanted. It's not that bad as you think it is. Also the further you travel from your base/note/capital or whatever it's called in this game. The more dangerous it should become. So the further you travel the less protection you get aka higher level players are able to PK you without getting corruption. Similar as in WoW where you are protected in capitals or hubs, or Runescape where you're safe outside of the wilderness and the deeper you get into the wilderness the bigger the level gap will be where players are able to attack each other. The world should feel dangerous and yes there will be better geared players and higher level players who will clap the shit out of you. Such is life. That's fun and causes drama. This will only encourages you to level up and get better gear. That's what an mmo should strive to be. There's nothing fun about a game holding your hand, protecting you like a little baby all the time. If you're afraid of getting ganked by other people you shouldn't be playing an mmo. That's what singleplayer or co op games are for. I just came up with this in like 3 minutes. I'm sure a whole team of 200 people can do better than this over penalizing corruption shit.
Yea I’m thinking / hoping pk penalties of killing an enemy of same level isn’t too harsh, but that killing ppl dramatically lower is insanely punishing personally
@@Nyce-Gaming When I was a kid playing RS and WoW I've always looked up to people that were higher level and had better gear. Even getting chased after and killed by higher levels had my adrenaline going. You feel like a deer being chased by lions but that's what makes it so good, you want to become that lion yourself. Killing a low level once shouldn't even penalize you imo. The only thing that should be prevented is literally corpse camping someone especially a low level who can't do anything back.
I get what you’re saying. You wanna have the option , once you’ve had your lvling and a bit of gearing done, to go out in high LvL areas and create some conflict. Mess about with your friend against potential enemies that will guarantee you an hour or two of open world PvP with the reward of just being … a “flagger” . DUDE, although I don’t do that much in games and I don’t really like it when it happens to me, when I played Lineage 2 (C3) in my teens, those open world conflicts that was happening between Clans and alliances in high LvL zones , were T H E Absolute BEST! That’s how you create a legendary reputation within the server/realm . Having people farming in those areas and thinking “They might jump us any moment now and take our spot” and when you do that and take the spot, you yourself have in mind that they will come for you in greater numbers in a bit . “Oh NO , they brought THAT guy? Pfff” . Anyway, sry for the long reply, idk if any1 reads this but I HAD to acknowledge your comment and speak my mind . Cheers, HF
It will never release. After release is when crowd funded games open themselves up to law suits from the people who bought in. So they perpetually remain nothing games, with 20 alphas, infinite betas etc.
I’ve spent over 500$ on this game so I’m bought in and ready to test however I completely understand people not being happy with this. In a normal alpha you don’t buy in and it normally last a weekend in may this will be persistent. I’m only playing in October to take notes and I will be more than brutal with them on the forums. If you think it’s to much and think it’s a scam don’t play I get it I stopped playing star citizen for the same reason. If this turns into a star citizen thing I’ll do the same.
i havent watched the whole video yet.. but you said "open world pvp".. hope we can turn this off, or have servers without it.. because if it's anything like Albion online.. that's going to push a lot of people away, as it's going to eliminate solo play progression.
It is always on. There are things in place to prevent grieving and ganking. Lawless zones exist for no penalty pvp. The game has in grained pvp for those who want to pvp within a certain parameter. Pvp outside of the in grained and lawless zones is more on a basis of if someone has access to a material or whatnot you think/know they have or something along those lines. They don't want and hopefully won't have a gankbox
As I said before - they only announced date for alpha 2. You all got scammed, once again. Another 120 $ from all those Andys, easy money for devs. Actually quite good scheme to earn some money
In it's core if you want 100% progress, yes, but PvE players will get a story, quests, crafting and so on. A 100% pvp game doesn't need this content, it only needs a player, equal gear for everybody and suitable maps. Login, pvp, logout - that's a 100% pvp game. An PvX MMO, like AoC, is different to that, so imo it's not a 100% pvp game and anyhow this won't work, as a massive amount of players love pve so this content has also to be adressed.
It is PvX, meaning that the building and destruction of the world is done through both. PvE is a integral aspect and can not be ignored, even by hardcore PvPers and vice versa. It is a feedback loop where both sides feed off of each other. Neither is a irrelevant side-activity that was lazily thrown onto the game systems.
@@drooskie9525 They use the term they made up PVX because all PVP only MMO's fail. So it is a term they are trying to avoid. Anytime you have a game that does not allow you to turn off or not have to participate in PVP, it is a PVP game. Yes. There is PVE. But. Not being able to avoid PVP, turns PVE into PVP.
@@Fydril I don't know of any PvP only MMO's, but there is "PvP-Centric" mmo's and AoC will fall under that. Such games have not ever "failed", at least on that basis alone. But just because there's pvp doesn't suddenly nullify the fact there's PvE content (and the fact its mandatory to engage with). The whole point of AoC is to have risk, and without risk, the game deteriorates in experience over time. The best content is one created by the players.
feels like early 2000 nostalgia with nowadays tech.. gameplay looks fun, but systems (no lfg, no trading post? what?) after playing modern games feels like not respecting player time. wonder if ppl that played mmos 20years ago got time for that nonsense now, or if younger generation is interested in chat spamming, local trade and pk greifing...
@@zawiasfx good question. This will indeed be quite the social experiment and will let us know if old ideologies advanced for a reason or if principles like this truly made mmo interactions satisfying
@@Nyce-Gaming i mean, i used to play hardcore pvx mmos 6-8h+ in my teens/early 20s, dont see myself doin anything like that now. As 30+ with job and family, i prefer games that are pure entertainment and respect my time - where i can jump in and out without missing much (like gw2), while AoC gameplay looks fun, seems like it may be more like a 2nd life/job kinda title. And most adults cant afford to play multiple hours a day. Well, without p2w it may end up alive longer than archeage...
I don't like it at all how this game seem to be taking away solo play inside mmo. Because I love that solo style and so do great many others. I love to be able to advance my character as I see fit and then compete against others and appear better than they are as I see fit. Seems like this game will force you to get in guilds, be in groups and yes, socialize for every part of the game. That really sucks because you have to keep up and go with the flow then. Never hated anything as much. And no auction houses? Wtf? Also the players housing, "not everyone will get one". That is insanely stupid. And what's with all this too much pvp nonsense? You want overflow of pvp, go create and play shooter games then. Fantasy mmo should always be more PVE driven and it doesn't mean that there couldn't also be great pvp experience too. But seems like this game is only focused on pvp. That is not a wise choice. And does this game have a story at all? Seems like it is just a simulator sandbox starting from zero. Why? Seems like they are abandoning all the true key elements of fantasy mmorpg. I have waited a long time for a successor to Wow, but every game out there have too many issues to achieve that. I thought for some time that ESO was it but then the devs. practically abandoned it and it became a dead game with horrible management and tons of issues and no future. I thought throne and liberty could be the one but as soon as I saw those flying teddy bears (amitoi or helpie w/e the fck) I knew that there is another BS title which will not do, well, what to expect from koreans. I hate final fantasy type anime btw. So I really hoped ashes of creation would be the one, but every recent video I have watched showcasing it just leaves me to be disappointed again. Why the fck no company or group out there can get the games right. I mean ESO.. that game would have been fantastic if only it had better game engine, better management and will to enhance the game and offer more content. But zenimax is a greedy fcking company full of idiots that only care about their crown store.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT. Will stream my thoughts on the AMA next week
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I backed this back in 2017 when they had a 2021 release date. I've kinda just put it on the backburner and haven't looked into it for a while but I'm glad to see how far they have come. My pack gives me access to the alpha 2 so I'm looking forward to trying it out.
Same here!
Bruh we’re gonna have so much fun on AoC. Long time ago I went against you 3v3 in NW. We gave you a run for your money but you got us.
I’ve been a little out of touch as we go through these stale times. I’ve been out fishing waiting for AoC. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos. A++ production. Love catching up with you brother. ✌🏻
@@rodney3297 ayyye thank you dude!!!! we just waiting on something good
I appreciate you cautioning the community about the “FOMO” and spending the $100+ to participate. There’s a lot of people out there that will spend money on video games when it’s really not wise of them to do so.
I’m excited that the AoC devs have players/creators like yourself to help them tune up the game. The closer they get to launch, the more excited I become for the game to finally be released. Excellent video as always! 😊
Thanks! Truly means a lot. Yea I personally don’t think it’s a good investment. Though they have now decided to include the beta it’s a little better. But still it’s FOMO for sure
New to the channel! Great video! I can't wait for AoC! Looking forward to the next video!
@@Rickist wow thank you welcome
I will say I know nothing about this MMO but am impressed with the community around this game. I have been watching a lot of new content creators I've never seen before and enjoying their stuff. With that said I am impressed with how many of you have been advocating people to not fall victim to FOMO. It feels sincere and I'm excited to see the community that comes with the progression of this game.
@@LeTmEsLiDe7537 👏 thank you so much
Excellent video, thank you for creating it. I was wondering what it was all about, and the 1 video literally explained nearly all.
@@aqid01 glad you enjoyed. Figured people would want a shortish summary
Great video for all the new Alpha 2 buyers to catch up on, Nyce! Can't believe we're so close now!
@@s1zzl1n the journey will begin soooon
the stream was...Nyce 😎
@@BaxxyNut
A very Nyce video, thank you.
With the recent announcements, now Ashes players will know what it means to be "Pantheon Patient."
Looking forward to Ashes Alpha 2.
@@antondovydaitis2261 thank you! And yea it’s a long road ahead indeed
Again - Nice :-) video.
In a nutshall - it's quite relaxing to listen to your vids, taking care of our time and you are not exaggerating like several other youtubers.. You vids are more mature and I want to thank you for that.
@@Ungohil wow this genuinely meant a lot . Yea I try to balance hype with realistic expectations best I can 🫡
@@Nyce-Gaming You are welcome.
I‘ve been watching AoC since the beginning, but not with focus.
Ive been playing MMOs since DAoC/WoW, from all I‘ve played (really a lot / nearly all) I like(d) WoW, GW2 and ESO best. NW was ok until „endgame“.
For Ashes I‘m not hyped, but I‘m MMO hungry, although I‘m bit older meanwhile and thus I fear that for time-casuals (because I know how to play, but lack time) AoC will be the wrong target group :-( A lot of mechanics and features let me think, oh man, a lot (too much) of time invest needed.. lets see what the next months will show us.
Really cool roundup, thanks!
@@ZapatosVibes 🫡 thanks!
im in hype...
soul shots sound +++
@@true.is.around October is almost here
Good points about Corruption.
Just got my alpha key today super excited to be apart of testing this game. I've been a huge mmo fan since runescape. This Game will be a huge boon to the genre
I'm debating getting one but I have some questions about the process/keys. Does it come with game time?
@@ryanekstrom2091 month of game time
@@ryanekstrom209 Access to future Alpha Two test phase starting Friday, November 8, 2024, continuing to subsequent test phases
Access to future Beta One test phase
Access to future Beta Two test phase
1 month of game time ($15 Value)
$15 Embers (in-game marketplace credits, NO P2W!)
@@ryanekstrom209 I bought mine today for the first wave ($120) it included a first wave key, an alpha 2 first wave bundle, a beta 1 key, a beta 2 key, 1750 Embers (In game currency for cosmetics i think) and a month of game time
@@ryanekstrom2091 month at release
Great summary! Thanks!
@@GamingAristotle thank you!
Good overview, thanks!
Is alpha 2 wave 1 Oct 25 or that specific testers bc it says November on the wave 1 key
@@xxkyky November is for if you bought a phase key. October 25th is for a2 key holders from previous bundles
Will there be SEA servers for this game? don't know if others have already asked this.
Yeah just on Launch years down the line, they said maybe for the Beta but they aren't thinking too much about that far ahead yet.
@@MrRazzmataz yea at launch but not alpha 2 launch. There will be just NA & EU
Great video for all the people just earning about Ashes 👏🏻
@@JakeyEX thanks! 🫡
dual wielding dagger have been done to death when will we get dual wielding swords and axes?
Lotro has axes.
@@lordmech I wonder why daggers is always the default go to haha
@@Nyce-Gaming thats a VERY good question.
As an owner of "braver of the world" I like watching this come together
@@Tory-JJ oh sweet. You’ve been in the waiting room for a while
@Nyce-Gaming mhm I just watch. I don't care about tests. I bought it and my gf did as well. Because it has lifetime sub. Recently had account troubles. Something enabled 2 factor on my account and it's not me. So I am in the process of making sure that's fixed.
Going to you for all my AoC content and info, fantastic videos. Are you going to run a guild?
@@ThePompousPeasant appreciated yea I think I’ll do a guild. Will announce details perhaps in the next 1-2 weeks
@@Nyce-Gaming Nice, do it! I think you would be great at it and it should be a good time.
I'm looking forward to the launch of this game. I don't think I'm going to pay to be a part of the alpha, but I am definitely intrigued and hope they finish it soon
It’s will be done in a little under 2 years from now based on the phase 3 alpha dates…then will be beta so maybe the summer of 2026 will be done
Really looking forward to this game, thank you for the great videos. I mostly prefer to play AOE/DOT style combat, what class should I examine?
@@MikeMcLarty the fighter will definitely be up your lane for dots and aoe. Mage will be king of just aoe though from what I know
@@Nyce-Gamingthank you for the reply!
This game sounds incredible to me and a buddy we found out about it a few years ago. We've been playing mmorpgs together for over 15 years... would tlove to test this game but I can't come close to affording that right now.. but I will FOR SURE be there on release..... :D:D:D:D:D:D
@@mathy0u it’s quite the investment. At least you guys will be able to keep track watching streams from Intrepid as well as content creators. Who knows. Maybe you’ll win a giveaway key 👀
@@Nyce-Gaming yeah im glad theres content around this game and its development really refreshing to see them get the community so involved in a big way. theres a key giveaway? i better get on that!
@@mathy0u they will be doing some giveaways soon I’m thinking so stay tuned
I'm pretty hype for this game in so many ways, you had a small mention of player markets and part of me has always tried to be like a merchant and I'm hoping I'll be able to do something like that in this game. RP ofc not rwt.
Yea it’s going to be cool playing the economy. I’ll discuss this in another video perhaps but there will apparently be a stock exchange 👀
@@Nyce-Gaming now that sounds cool
October 25th needs to hurry up.
@@sticqeno288 counting the days 😫
This is going to be ruff , the wait for this AMA was bad enough.
People saying this are experiencing FOMO like they're about to get a sneak peek at the game, lol. It's going to be spot testing until May 2025. Ya'll can relax.
@@jordanrose8443Hmmmmmmm FOMO ?
Nope that's boredom I'm feeling, not fomo .
I spent too much time slaving at a bench in pax dei , I'm ready for something else .
@@jordanrose8443 Well, more like until Christmas season, where it'll be Wednesday though Sunday at that point.
Great video. Im new to this game but you didnt mention what happens when you die in this game and im wondering about pvp, can you fight everyone even your own race?
@@Danny_79 thanks! Upon death you turn into ash and can respawn. You will gain experience debt. You can fight anyone
I just hope I can be a casual in this, too much real life going on. What are your thoughts for the casual player, Nyce?
I can't wait to caravan supplies in a convoy with other players!
@@Pwnstarjamez gonna be so epic coordinating that with a big security force
Asmon being one of the teamleads xracked me up😂
@@diredevil1 I was curious if anyone would notice this. Think I’ll start placing Easter eggs of him in most vids lol
@@Nyce-Gaming 😂😂
This is a Lineage 2 reskin with new technology added.. cant wait!
I'm not really closely following AOC development (better not to create unnecessary hype and just keep realistic expectations) so this question goes for the folks that are: Will the game have social features? and if so, how in depth are they gonna be?
By that i mean, Emotes, Character Customization (outside character creation), Player interaction systems and in general features that promote/enable the social interaction between players.
I'm not necessarily a big social player but i do enjoy being able to interact with other people by in-game means. A good exemple of what i mean is FFXIV or WOW, both having a great amount of emotes and general social interaction features and a good amount of customization for the player.
Something that is one of the biggest reasons to player retention and is unfortunately neglected by most MMOs out there, either not having any at all, being very superficial or behind a pay wall.
@@Edellwaisblossom it’s very social. In fact I’d say it’s the one of the only few MMOs bring the social aspects back to MMOs and the amount of character customization and identity planned sounds lovely
I hope they increase the launch player capacity per realm than the 2017 number of 10k. At 10k players per server there will be vast zones of dead content due to lack of player concentration. I am talking worse than New World, New world has 2500 player cap at 1/12 of Ashes land content and it's still a desert at places on "high pop" realms.
@@anaximanderification yea the land to population ratio is something I can’t wait to get a feel of
@@Nyce-Gaming at least the no man's lands (lawless zones) between ZOIs of node kingdoms are the 1vX promised lands.
@@anaximanderification
I hope they think about lone wolf players that just want to wander around the world for exploration and leveling, while doing some random pvps, this professions/nodes and all of this looks overwhelming if required from new players. Similar to some mmorpgs that you start the game with 20 skills, 30 talents, full gear, a lot of stuff to read, a lot of tutorials and things you need to kinda study before even know if you really want to play the game
They have, and said find friends essentially
Well made video
@@michaelphillips3148 truly appreciated 🫡
Wait this took the title of most funded from Star Citizen or most funded through Kickstarter?
@@katalistic kickstarter
If it will be as good as it looks like right now, I will become a holly inquisitor there, instead of trying to make my ESO-jabs-templar work again.
@@skulpturostone4621 yes. One is a lot more achievable than the other
@@Nyce-Gaming next patch it will be even worse then necro, due to necro being buffed.
does it have a story ?
@@AdamFunke94 yes. There’s actually a good amount of lore and story already known though most is being saved for launch or alpha. It’s decently cool. Check out the loreforged channel linked in the description 👀
@@Nyce-Gaming ah ok thats cool, i want alteast some lore and story and not only pvp
I just hope it comes out in the next 1-2 years. I am so tired of being burned by over ambitious Kick Starters. This game has been in development for years and it slightly reminds me of what Star Citizen is doing and I hope it proves me wrong. I want a good MMO, but I don't want to wait forever to play a finished product. They do not seem to be all about money grabbing so I am still excited to see this finally come out.
@@sokmunky4104 i feel this. It definitely won’t be 2 years from now though 😩 let’s just hope it’s it’s genre changing greatness when we finally get it
I hope people dont take adv of some of these systems to grief hard. Excited for the game tho!
@@SpinyHog we’ll be testing to make sure they can’t 🫡 I’ll be reporting all corruption exploits and such
oh they will! but thats life, prey or predator just gotta find your place in the world, that makes it exciting imo. there will be serious rivals!
Holy sh!!!!!tttt I can’t wait 😆
@@Deadweight88 I’m soo hype for it
"SO, this is what we can expect on launch"
Good video
Thank you! 🫡
I hope they add flails. Not enough games have flails. Honestly would be such a great weapon to have
@@zachsmith8967 agreed here!
@@Nyce-Gaming where can you pre purchase this game? I never heard of it.
@@zachsmith8967 there’s a link in my bio or in description of the video I just uploaded 😁
No global market is interesting. Does this mean they are going to try to combat websites where you post the item you want to sell and then meet up in game? How are they going to insure players don’t get scammed by other players if there isn’t a reference of what the going price is?
They have huge plans to combat RMT and will be punishing to players who do so. They will have a lot of tech checking logs and maybe even sting operations
I like this video. Beats the 4 hour one.
Dude that 4 hour one is retarded, its just Ryve literally reading the Wiki. Lowest quality video i've seen, dude should just stop making videos cause he is not good at it.
T&L has a pay to play platform partially. So AOC has my attention. New World crashed my computer…..so, I’m here
@@novastar5564 yea it seems to be like the only thing with a lot of promise at the current moment
only 69 days to go lads 🙏
Giggity
This game looks like it won’t be out till Summer 2026 based on the last Alpha dates and then there would be a stress test then Beta
Typical just as I'm about to hit the sack.. Nyce, 21 minutes.. cliiiiiiick
I wanted to wait until it was inconvenient and you were getting comfy
Am I crazy or is that asmongold at 2:20? Lmao
@@fattjoe312 🤐
@@Nyce-Gaming You Nyce b4stard
this seriously sounds too good to be true
Yea its what made me so excited tbh. At the very least, the vision is there
@@Nyce-Gaming yea, but that concerns me...We've seen this with other titles...hopefully management of development is better
So far, Ashes really doesn't do anything to move the genre forward. The only thing it did was SLIGHTLY fix the corruption system. A system that still needs more to fix it.
Non combatants remaining so even after attacking you if your corrupted, HOWEVER, you should get corrupted as soon as you attack a non combatant. They were not flagged for consensual pvp, its still griefing if they attack back. Leaving it so no corruption is gained is actually a big flaw in the system, being unfair to and bad for non combatants.
I think it's a HUGE mistake to take stats away from PKers. It's an mmorpg. How are you going to fully dismantle players that may want to play as a "villan". Every good story needs a good villain. This is one of the elements missing from new school mmorpgs and contributes to an extreme lack of "depth" and "danger" that comes with it. It makes the world feel empty. So basically, they are willing to cater to people who play an mmorpg and cry when they get killed. It takes all of the excitement out of the game. Danger is excitement. What do we handicap half the player base? That sounds absurd, and I'm tired of game companies doing this. Is biased towards one kind of player base. You want safe zones, okay fine. Don't butcher someone's build because it's good, or they want to roleplay as the villan to create more in-game immersion and depth.
In summary, alpha 2 relayed until summer 2025 (if no delays)
All the big guilds will pool resources to gobble up all the Freeholds before others have a chance.
@@Grimasaurus I hope not man. If so, we gonna rebel against those guilds
@@Nyce-Gaming something I am not clear on are the circumstances in which you can lose your Freehold. Do you only lose it if another guild takes over the node, or are there other conditions?
@@Grimasaurus if your home node is successfully sieged and your freehold nodes any adapted by another zoi from my understanding
WOAH WOAH WOAH CARAVANS? LIKE SILKROAD????
@@SonosAzai yes 😎
@@Nyce-Gaming That alone sold me
All the things they promise still sound way too ambitious to come true. I'll wait paitently and see how they will deliver in the end, whenever that will be or at all in my lifetime lol
I bet Asmongold is a great employee lol
@@NickWebb-lc6ry I bet he keeps his workstation tidy too
They crushed my dreams with summoner not until 2025
I will wipe my tears with my a2 characters until then
@@Razdasoldier yea we won’t see it for a while 😥 gotta find a cope character for now
Where's the summoner
I wish the game was just buy to play, like GW2, paying a mothly sub feels aweful when the game doesn't deliver on it's goodness.
@@Mecanotech isn’t that the benefit of a sub fee that you can cancel that support if it’s not delivering? At least if there’s no expansions to buy. Tho I do see both sides
I set WoW vanilla as an example, when I get annoyed by the walking, by the time investment on leveling up professions, and other things, and on top of that i have to remember i am paying 15 dollars a month, it just feels stressful. Mind you 15 dollars for me, for my country's coin, feels like paying 50 dollars.
Currently playing a wow private server and it feels so nice not having my credit card in mind. I feel I can just relax and take my time.
Scams don’t just offer a product for a buy in. The charge players to test their crap.
Wish the game would focus on race vs race not guild vs guild. No corruption when fighting your racial enemies. Much better system. Darkfalls biggest issue is they didn’t lean into that system and allowed arac to exist.
Im going to give it two months until everyone is crammed on just a few servers, and then they have to completely change how the game works. No one is going to want to play on a server where certain raids, events, etc just are not happening.
I agree with you mostly. But as someone who prefers as little social interaction as possible in my MMOs, and preferring to only play with one or two close friends, a mostly deserted space where we can do what we want without having to worry about the 500 player guild swarming us sounds pretty good.
We need a PK freebie like once every two hours or something. Who the hell is going to want to do any kind of random open world pvp the way it is.
@@sumasaum I’m citron this too, but upon attacking someone most will in theory defend themselves as you drop more mats as a non combatant/green than a combatant/purple 🤔 tough to say tho
No, we don't. They're doing it the correct way: encouraging MEANINGFUL pvp and punishing no-life asshats who just mindlessly gank.
If you get your jollies solely by jumping whatever lone person you see just so you can get an ego boost, then go ahead and find something else. This game isn't intended for you.
As far as I see, there is plenty of corruption free zones. So don't PK it city. Just be an outlaw somewhere in the woods, PKing travellers
They really need to just change TANK to some other shield class name. Warrior, Protector, Defender, Sentinel, Guarder, Basher, Shielder, Hoplite, etc.
@@eljuanzo4249 pleasssse. It’s such a bad name . Starting a petition
I want a pole axe.
@@Tory-JJ yes! A one handed spear too
@@Nyce-Gaming we love spears.
imagine paying to test a game
No need I'm about to find out🎉
can we go war on another guild ?
@@Tamasish yup! This is the guild wars system
I do not accept cosmetics in a subscription game. I don't want to see a circus with people running around like clowns from overly flashy gear and mounts cause it reminds me of wow and i have PTSD from that abomination of a game it has become. Flashy gear needs to be EARNED orelse it won't matter
Earned gear will be as good and even better than the paid for cosmetics as they have stated numerous times
@@mikeyveins601 Still
@@Nbd4-d8d yea I totally understand this even though I personally don’t mind cosmetics. At least the coolest armor seems to be earnable
With WoW doing it, everyone will do it. If the staple game is doing it, there's no reason for them to not. All they have to do is point and say look. It's the sad, unfortunate truth.
Either way, $120 for an alpha tester slot is insane. Not to mention the fact alpha 2 was supposed to be the persistent one too, so I'm good on this now.
I love the idea of cosmetics to help finance a game and continued development. I do request an option to toggle on/off seeing peoples cosmetics, though.
this looks insane, i see the classic wow influence, love the risk reward and immensity. So sick of fast travel fast this fast that. so bland
@@michaeledwards6890 time to get back to old school principles
Ugh the equipment damage on death is awful. It only leads to frustration and never fun. I wish I never backed this thing, but did it so long ago that it has gone off the rails since
You a full loot man too?
Very little has changed, I guess you didn't actually look into it before you bought it
Thanos for the videos, now i onow for sure this is a skip for me.
Good luck and have fun.
@@rianmilit you’re very Ironman. Hulk you very much
the animations and movements are as cluncky as New world hahaha. am sure the game is great but small things like that start to bother me alots after hours and hours seeing the characters looking stupid or weid while runing or jumping ..... its one of the reasons that i never went back to wow and many other mmorpgs.
lol 100USD for a key? Yeah im out.
I suggest just following or watching streamers. I personally wouldn’t purchase the key as is especially if on the fence / against it
@@Nyce-Gaming I don't buy games when there new Typically anyway. I never have A game has to earn my money.
Open world pvp and 'dungeons' ... I'm out, that kills it for casuals.
I think they have plans to help the casual playerbase
I feel like this game is looking to hardcore for 2024. Classic WoW did OK because of it simply being WoW. At this point its kind of dead. I could see this getting maybe 200k players for a month, and then prob dying off like Lost Ark. Hopefully Im wrong. Finally, I guarantee they will add a Global AH within 6 months after people bitch and quit.
@@TheNichq I think it will have its niche. It’s legitimately the most promising mmo in progress right now and I think people are waiting for the next thing
@@Nyce-Gaming Yes and no. The sad truth is most "gamers" are lazy. They may all say they want something new, but they also aren't going to want to put in all the work that makes it unique.
It will definitely scare off the young instant gratification types but it could get hyped enough to make it into the mainstream scene (probably not but who knows) Remember how hard Elden Ring was for most people and it was a huge success
Subscription.. no thanks 😢
Why not? Sub is always better than free to play because FTP games are always also pay to win 🙄😅
@@Silhouette-xz3xn yea I prefer sub over p2w f2p. Or some games which has box cost, sub, then expansions, then a battle pass
Box cost and expansions always, I rarely play any f2p games - why pay £15 or so a month for access to a game.. they already have a cash shop for cosmetics, why the need for a sub?
13:45 mehh wont be playing if ganking other people is as penalizing as this. I can understand this system for corpse farming low levels for no reason sure. But not for killing similar levels even if it's just for fun. Also getting penalized because your opponent isn't fighting back is the most stupid thing ever. So I'm getting penalized because my opponent is a pussy or afk? 🤦
well what systems would you implement to avoid a gank box that destroys the game for new players.
@@Jordancommenter It's simple, new players aren't max level yet, they are still leveling which takes a while I believe. So naturally these players are protected from getting ganked by sweaty max level andy's.
On top of that they could implement a system where fresh max level players are still protected for an X amount of time. So they have time to gear up.
Add a little icon next to their name so you can see they're protected. This icon would also appear on people who are much lower level than you and would also give you corruption. Or (Dishonorable kill) as they call it on wow.
I've played WoW for years and you could freely gank anyone you wanted. It's not that bad as you think it is.
Also the further you travel from your base/note/capital or whatever it's called in this game. The more dangerous it should become. So the further you travel the less protection you get aka higher level players are able to PK you without getting corruption. Similar as in WoW where you are protected in capitals or hubs, or Runescape where you're safe outside of the wilderness and the deeper you get into the wilderness the bigger the level gap will be where players are able to attack each other.
The world should feel dangerous and yes there will be better geared players and higher level players who will clap the shit out of you. Such is life. That's fun and causes drama. This will only encourages you to level up and get better gear. That's what an mmo should strive to be.
There's nothing fun about a game holding your hand, protecting you like a little baby all the time. If you're afraid of getting ganked by other people you shouldn't be playing an mmo. That's what singleplayer or co op games are for.
I just came up with this in like 3 minutes. I'm sure a whole team of 200 people can do better than this over penalizing corruption shit.
Yea I’m thinking / hoping pk penalties of killing an enemy of same level isn’t too harsh, but that killing ppl dramatically lower is insanely punishing personally
@@Nyce-Gaming When I was a kid playing RS and WoW I've always looked up to people that were higher level and had better gear. Even getting chased after and killed by higher levels had my adrenaline going. You feel like a deer being chased by lions but that's what makes it so good, you want to become that lion yourself. Killing a low level once shouldn't even penalize you imo. The only thing that should be prevented is literally corpse camping someone especially a low level who can't do anything back.
I get what you’re saying. You wanna have the option , once you’ve had your lvling and a bit of gearing done, to go out in high LvL areas and create some conflict. Mess about with your friend against potential enemies that will guarantee you an hour or two of open world PvP with the reward of just being … a “flagger” . DUDE, although I don’t do that much in games and I don’t really like it when it happens to me, when I played Lineage 2 (C3) in my teens, those open world conflicts that was happening between Clans and alliances in high LvL zones , were T H E Absolute BEST! That’s how you create a legendary reputation within the server/realm . Having people farming in those areas and thinking “They might jump us any moment now and take our spot” and when you do that and take the spot, you yourself have in mind that they will come for you in greater numbers in a bit . “Oh NO , they brought THAT guy? Pfff” . Anyway, sry for the long reply, idk if any1 reads this but I HAD to acknowledge your comment and speak my mind . Cheers, HF
All i need to know is there are lawsuits, they are in debt and i wont give them money until this game will eventually release in who knows when.
It will never release. After release is when crowd funded games open themselves up to law suits from the people who bought in. So they perpetually remain nothing games, with 20 alphas, infinite betas etc.
The only thing you need to know is that this game is never going to release. But do have fun wasting your time away in another "alpha". Lmao.
Thanks I will, see you on release
Games in development this long never live up to what they promise.
Alpha 2 then alpha 3 then alpha 4 then alpha 8 then omega 1 then alpha 6. This game aint releasing lol
@@sir_quirkus7206 jokes on you, beta 1 and beta 2 will lead into launch after alpha 14 😏
Most funded Kickstarter mmo .....cough cough star citizen
@@shinix5209 most funded kickstarter. Ashes of creation still holds this title. Star citizen has made more money/revenue, but not from *kickstarter*
I think it’s going to suck. Big ol money grab.
@@TherealRoger.D I think it’ll be fun just based on what they have planned and showed thus far. We shall see
I’ve spent over 500$ on this game so I’m bought in and ready to test however I completely understand people not being happy with this. In a normal alpha you don’t buy in and it normally last a weekend in may this will be persistent. I’m only playing in October to take notes and I will be more than brutal with them on the forums. If you think it’s to much and think it’s a scam don’t play I get it I stopped playing star citizen for the same reason. If this turns into a star citizen thing I’ll do the same.
@@whyme0906 THIS!! Big respect for this comment im actually going to look into star citizen here soon to look for similarities
Star citizen has had better practises than aoc. People still don’t own access to aoc lmao.
i havent watched the whole video yet.. but you said "open world pvp".. hope we can turn this off, or have servers without it.. because if it's anything like Albion online.. that's going to push a lot of people away, as it's going to eliminate solo play progression.
It is always on. There are things in place to prevent grieving and ganking. Lawless zones exist for no penalty pvp. The game has in grained pvp for those who want to pvp within a certain parameter. Pvp outside of the in grained and lawless zones is more on a basis of if someone has access to a material or whatnot you think/know they have or something along those lines. They don't want and hopefully won't have a gankbox
@@JW-ml5si 👏
Watch the video.
I'm against open world pvp as well. However, he goes into great detail on the system and it actually sounds really good.
As I said before - they only announced date for alpha 2. You all got scammed, once again. Another 120 $ from all those Andys, easy money for devs. Actually quite good scheme to earn some money
No one got scammed lol
Why do you even mention pve? It is not a pve game. It is 100% a pvp game.
In it's core if you want 100% progress, yes, but PvE players will get a story, quests, crafting and so on. A 100% pvp game doesn't need this content, it only needs a player, equal gear for everybody and suitable maps. Login, pvp, logout - that's a 100% pvp game. An PvX MMO, like AoC, is different to that, so imo it's not a 100% pvp game and anyhow this won't work, as a massive amount of players love pve so this content has also to be adressed.
It's pvx
It is PvX, meaning that the building and destruction of the world is done through both. PvE is a integral aspect and can not be ignored, even by hardcore PvPers and vice versa. It is a feedback loop where both sides feed off of each other. Neither is a irrelevant side-activity that was lazily thrown onto the game systems.
@@drooskie9525 They use the term they made up PVX because all PVP only MMO's fail. So it is a term they are trying to avoid.
Anytime you have a game that does not allow you to turn off or not have to participate in PVP, it is a PVP game. Yes. There is PVE. But. Not being able to avoid PVP, turns PVE into PVP.
@@Fydril I don't know of any PvP only MMO's, but there is "PvP-Centric" mmo's and AoC will fall under that. Such games have not ever "failed", at least on that basis alone.
But just because there's pvp doesn't suddenly nullify the fact there's PvE content (and the fact its mandatory to engage with). The whole point of AoC is to have risk, and without risk, the game deteriorates in experience over time. The best content is one created by the players.
Bummer. World PvP. Saw Asmon watching a raid and it looked cool but with pvp all the time im out.
feels like early 2000 nostalgia with nowadays tech.. gameplay looks fun, but systems (no lfg, no trading post? what?) after playing modern games feels like not respecting player time. wonder if ppl that played mmos 20years ago got time for that nonsense now, or if younger generation is interested in chat spamming, local trade and pk greifing...
@@zawiasfx good question. This will indeed be quite the social experiment and will let us know if old ideologies advanced for a reason or if principles like this truly made mmo interactions satisfying
@@Nyce-Gaming i mean, i used to play hardcore pvx mmos 6-8h+ in my teens/early 20s, dont see myself doin anything like that now. As 30+ with job and family, i prefer games that are pure entertainment and respect my time - where i can jump in and out without missing much (like gw2), while AoC gameplay looks fun, seems like it may be more like a 2nd life/job kinda title. And most adults cant afford to play multiple hours a day. Well, without p2w it may end up alive longer than archeage...
I don't like it at all how this game seem to be taking away solo play inside mmo. Because I love that solo style and so do great many others. I love to be able to advance my character as I see fit and then compete against others and appear better than they are as I see fit. Seems like this game will force you to get in guilds, be in groups and yes, socialize for every part of the game. That really sucks because you have to keep up and go with the flow then. Never hated anything as much. And no auction houses? Wtf? Also the players housing, "not everyone will get one". That is insanely stupid. And what's with all this too much pvp nonsense? You want overflow of pvp, go create and play shooter games then. Fantasy mmo should always be more PVE driven and it doesn't mean that there couldn't also be great pvp experience too. But seems like this game is only focused on pvp. That is not a wise choice. And does this game have a story at all? Seems like it is just a simulator sandbox starting from zero. Why? Seems like they are abandoning all the true key elements of fantasy mmorpg. I have waited a long time for a successor to Wow, but every game out there have too many issues to achieve that. I thought for some time that ESO was it but then the devs. practically abandoned it and it became a dead game with horrible management and tons of issues and no future. I thought throne and liberty could be the one but as soon as I saw those flying teddy bears (amitoi or helpie w/e the fck) I knew that there is another BS title which will not do, well, what to expect from koreans. I hate final fantasy type anime btw. So I really hoped ashes of creation would be the one, but every recent video I have watched showcasing it just leaves me to be disappointed again. Why the fck no company or group out there can get the games right. I mean ESO.. that game would have been fantastic if only it had better game engine, better management and will to enhance the game and offer more content. But zenimax is a greedy fcking company full of idiots that only care about their crown store.