I've got a problem. When I use the tool to compress the rings I can't slap the cylinder head to force in the piston because crank moves on me. How did you stabilize the crank to keep it from collapsing so enough force can be applied to get the piston in? Will I have to remove the crank cover? Also its extremely difficult to get the wrist pin retaining clip installed with the piston half inside the cylinder. Perhaps a step by step order will help.
I used piston ring compression tool. The compression tool has to be that band type that can be unwrapped to get it out around the connecting rod. Let the crank move down until it's at the bottom of it's rotation. Tap on the cylinder to get the piston in. Once the rings are in, rotate the crank to lift the piston and cylinder up so you can get your compression tool out. Hope that makes sense and helps!
I remember that being tricky as well. I believe you have to put the cam drive idle gear in below its mounting point to put the chain on the gear. Then lift the gear and chain up to put the bolt through it. If there is not enough slack in the chain to do that then make sure your tensioner is removed and the chain is in its guides. Remember to install the shims as well the way they were removed. One last thing, there are 3 different alignment marks on this idle gear. All 3 have to be lined up before installing the cams. I hope that helps, good luck!
HAHA that bolt was too much. I have a 2006 arctic cat and as you know its a suzuki driveline. I want to buy another new one and my closest dealer is a suzuki but i'm leaning towards the honda. Any thought on what brand you prefer. The arctic cat VP 400 has been an awesome machine but arctic cat now builds their own driveline and its not so great as far as i've seen. LOL
Thanks for stopping by Steve! In my opinion I think all the brands have their pros and cons. I grew up owning pretty much nothing but Suzuki but about 5 years ago now I bought a Polaris sportsman. I really like the suspension of the Polaris but I can't stand the clutching on it. I'm hoping to put a clutch kit in it soon to help it. Compared to this KQ the clutching is great along with the driveline. Plenty of power but it feels like it rides like a lumber wagon compared to the Polaris. I know that doesn't really answer your question but I guess I would start with deciding what I want the four wheeler to do.
@@jason14newman No worries, thanks for the compliment! I actually have an entire playlist on this rebuild. Check it out if you have time: th-cam.com/video/Qrr2EE5y5nk/w-d-xo.html
I didn't think to record that because I used the stock shims and just put it back together the way it came apart. Valve adjustment was still in spec. To adjust them you would have to buy different size shims. You should be able to find what size shim you need by using a feeler gauge. See what measurement you have with current shim, subtract the correct tolerance, add the current shim thickness, that should get you what size shim you need. I hope that makes sense. That's how I would do it, not sure if that's the correct way or not but should get you what your looking for. Thanks for watching!
Upper Peninsula DIY I think I figured it out. I don't know a whole lot about engines although I have at one time or another fixed most things with the help of TH-cam. This one stumped me... I was cleaning King quad when I notice what seemed a clean drilled hole through the top part of the cylinder head(I think that's what it is called). If you are sitting on machine it is on the right hand side. I thought maybe some sort of bolt fell off. From what I have discovered on forums and online photos and photos from repair Manuel it is called a "weeping hole" for any water that might find its way to spark plug insertion area or just general weeping for condensation. You probably saw it when working on Atv and knew what it was. I was like.."give me a break! I've lost a bolt and now there is a open hole right into engine!"
Upper Peninsula DIY just for your info and curiosity... I see the hole I'm speaking about on this video. Time 1:42-44 when you are showing exhaust side of engine. It is very faint but there. Located about 2 inches below the mounting bolt of cylinder and about 2 inches above the connecting seam of cylinder. If you have owners Manual you can see a better photo of it on page 3-6 top photo. Thanks!
I'm not sure, I've never tried it. From my experience the rings, piston and cylinder should be lubed up with engine oil or assembly lube when installing which would probably make the rings to slippery for the small width of a zip tie. But that's not saying it couldn't be done though. Thanks for stopping by!
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Thinking mine has a timing issue. It won't start at all. Back fire a tiny bit through the throttle body.
Coming along nicely......so glad that head bolt didn't break, that would have created a mess for sure!!! Looking forward to the engine start...
Thanks for stopping by Larry! I was very relieved when I pulled the bolt out and it was still intact, I got lucky.
I've got a problem. When I use the tool to compress the rings I can't slap the cylinder head to force in the piston because crank moves on me. How did you stabilize the crank to keep it from collapsing so enough force can be applied to get the piston in? Will I have to remove the crank cover? Also its extremely difficult to get the wrist pin retaining clip installed with the piston half inside the cylinder. Perhaps a step by step order will help.
I used piston ring compression tool. The compression tool has to be that band type that can be unwrapped to get it out around the connecting rod. Let the crank move down until it's at the bottom of it's rotation. Tap on the cylinder to get the piston in. Once the rings are in, rotate the crank to lift the piston and cylinder up so you can get your compression tool out. Hope that makes sense and helps!
Tightening torque cylinder head bolts??
hello. any plans on adjusting the valves on the king quad? I need to do this on my atv and a video would be great :).
I don't plan to at the moment but if I do I will record it. Thanks!
Holy smokes you got lucky with the head bolt. Coming along nicely. Can't wait to hear it run.
Extremely lucky! My heart sank soon as I felt it give. I just backed it out slowly and the whole thing came out. Thanks for stopping by!
WOW!! That was a close one on the head bolt!!! But it's coming along great can't wait to hear it brother!!! Cheers 🍻
I was very surprised and relieved when the whole bolt came out. Thanks for stopping by!
How do you get timing chain back on top gear??
I remember that being tricky as well. I believe you have to put the cam drive idle gear in below its mounting point to put the chain on the gear. Then lift the gear and chain up to put the bolt through it. If there is not enough slack in the chain to do that then make sure your tensioner is removed and the chain is in its guides. Remember to install the shims as well the way they were removed. One last thing, there are 3 different alignment marks on this idle gear. All 3 have to be lined up before installing the cams. I hope that helps, good luck!
quick question does your crank case breather hose that u can see at 3:34 in the video just sit there does it get plugged into anything?
If I remember right is gets plugged into the air box.
Hey man I got a 2016 king quad 750 and me and my grandad need help timing
I have one of these and I'm having some problems would like to talk to you about it if possible.
Sure, no problem. I'm not an expert by any means, just a DIYer.
HAHA that bolt was too much. I have a 2006 arctic cat and as you know its a suzuki driveline. I want to buy another new one and my closest dealer is a suzuki but i'm leaning towards the honda. Any thought on what brand you prefer. The arctic cat VP 400 has been an awesome machine but arctic cat now builds their own driveline and its not so great as far as i've seen. LOL
Thanks for stopping by Steve! In my opinion I think all the brands have their pros and cons. I grew up owning pretty much nothing but Suzuki but about 5 years ago now I bought a Polaris sportsman. I really like the suspension of the Polaris but I can't stand the clutching on it. I'm hoping to put a clutch kit in it soon to help it. Compared to this KQ the clutching is great along with the driveline. Plenty of power but it feels like it rides like a lumber wagon compared to the Polaris. I know that doesn't really answer your question but I guess I would start with deciding what I want the four wheeler to do.
Do you have a video of putting the topping back together
Here is the playlist of videos I have for the King Quad. Thanks for watching! th-cam.com/play/PLhm4dRKS8DVcKhUGegub7GDXvKZfP6qpq.html
Ouch, that will hurt. You're a pretty good mechanic. Amazing that came out!
Thanks for the compliment! I was surprised it came out also. Thanks for stopping by!
Are you not able to do a inframe without have to remove the engine and all the extra work?
I'm not sure I understand your question. This was an inframe top end refresh.
You couldn’t pull your top end apart with the engine still in the bike?
Yup, that's how I did it. It was still in the bike.
Shit I was watching someone else’s video and commented on yours. Yours is way better thanks
@@jason14newman No worries, thanks for the compliment! I actually have an entire playlist on this rebuild. Check it out if you have time: th-cam.com/video/Qrr2EE5y5nk/w-d-xo.html
Well looks like you'll have it together just in time for A memorial day ride. We're making plans to come up that weekend. Lol
That sounds great! We usually go camping that weekend and bring the four wheelers with us. So that would work good, we could meet up somewhere.
I'll let you know whats going on as soon as I know. I'm guessing you are friends with my cousin Jodie Dotson Hurley?
Yup, I know Jodie and Andy. I haven't talked to them in a long time though since they moved to Menominee.
Do you have an video of shimming the valves?
I didn't think to record that because I used the stock shims and just put it back together the way it came apart. Valve adjustment was still in spec. To adjust them you would have to buy different size shims. You should be able to find what size shim you need by using a feeler gauge. See what measurement you have with current shim, subtract the correct tolerance, add the current shim thickness, that should get you what size shim you need. I hope that makes sense. That's how I would do it, not sure if that's the correct way or not but should get you what your looking for. Thanks for watching!
What was the compression before you tore it apart?
I believe it was below 100psi. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Lucky that head bolt didn't snap before you were able to back it out...then there woulda been some swearing..lol!!
lol there was already some swearing as soon as I felt the bolt give... Then woohoo when the whole bolt came out... lol Thanks for stopping by!
Anyone know why there is a tiny hole on the right top end of engine?
It may be for an oil passage but can you be more specific?
Upper Peninsula DIY I think I figured it out. I don't know a whole lot about engines although I have at one time or another fixed most things with the help of TH-cam. This one stumped me... I was cleaning King quad when I notice what seemed a clean drilled hole through the top part of the cylinder head(I think that's what it is called). If you are sitting on machine it is on the right hand side. I thought maybe some sort of bolt fell off. From what I have discovered on forums and online photos and photos from repair Manuel it is called a "weeping hole" for any water that might find its way to spark plug insertion area or just general weeping for condensation. You probably saw it when working on Atv and knew what it was. I was like.."give me a break! I've lost a bolt and now there is a open hole right into engine!"
Oh that makes sense. I’m not sure I even noticed it when I had mine apart. Good work snd thanks for sharing that!
Upper Peninsula DIY just for your info and curiosity... I see the hole I'm speaking about on this video. Time 1:42-44 when you are showing exhaust side of engine. It is very faint but there. Located about 2 inches below the mounting bolt of cylinder and about 2 inches above the connecting seam of cylinder. If you have owners Manual you can see a better photo of it on page 3-6 top photo. Thanks!
Oh yeah I see it now. I think I remember blowing air into that hole with the air compressor and it did go into the spark plug hole.
wide zip ties work for ring compressors,
I'm not sure, I've never tried it. From my experience the rings, piston and cylinder should be lubed up with engine oil or assembly lube when installing which would probably make the rings to slippery for the small width of a zip tie. But that's not saying it couldn't be done though. Thanks for stopping by!
how align crankshaft
There are timing marks for top dead center.
I need some help on mine
What do you need help with. I might be able to help.
Sure looks more complicated then my old YZ 250 was to rebuild
I wouldn't of wanted to do it with out the service manual. That came in handy a few times.
Lucky it didn't snap off.
Very lucky! I couldn't believe the whole thing came out. Thanks for stopping by!