I did the shims today. Thank you so much for this video . Wow what a difference. I have 1000 foot tall mountain on my property and it's steep . Before it felt like it was slipping climbing today it powered all the way to top.
Im having a problem with my king quad the clutch cage will not budge i have removed the 5 bolts and it is completley stuck on there the top 2 is loose but the bottom 3 will not budge any way on fixing this i cannot find this anywhere on the internet to fix this
Hey buddy! Thanks for the info- doing mine in the spring! I am curious- what exhaust do you have on it and did you have to re-tune for that exhaust? Sounds sweet!
Hey great explanation. I have a 17 kq750 I’m interested in adding shims to. Stock tires. Do you recommend the 1.5 from the comments I saw afterwards? Happen to have a reliable link? Thanks!
hey I was wondering I’m about to change a belt on my 07 700 tmre do you have to torque down that bold or no I was wondering cux I don’t got a torque wrench or nun. Will it be fine if I don’t torque it down?
Did you grease the collar on the inside before you put it back on? If so with what kind of grease? I only ask because you made mention of cleaning the collar but upon installing it you wiped off grease.
Mine still had grease in it, I did this mod with around 100 miles on my machine. I wiped away some grease that happened to come outside of the hole in the collar. If you need grease any multi purpose grease from the parts store will do
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors Thanks for the reply and the video BTW. I assume just a thin coat of grease inside the collar/sleeve? Or do you just put it on and fill the hole?
@@SplitHairz yes just a thin coat inside the collar then place it on. Doesn’t need to be packed, you’ll run the risk of it flinging out all over the belt causing slip and belt glaze.
when you were all finished,and fired up the bike , did you find it hard to initially shift from H to L to R? after i done my mod (2mm) i found it very hard to shift through H L R,. After a few minutes of riding and shifting through again, it started to shift normally.
rubicscube78 I didn’t, mine was pretty smooth. I only did a 1.2mm shim. I’m about to send my clutch off in the next couple of weeks and will be doing a 1.5mm I’m glad yours went back to normal, the shins probably just had to set in place.
Did you ever do the 18g roller model? If so how is the change? And top speed loss? I've had the exact same shims you bought for a few months and I'm just now about to install them. Just wondering if I should go the 1.5 or 2mm. Not super hard to take apart so I guess I can experiment with it and see. I've been skidding logs and all kinds of stuff so the low end is what I'm after
I've got a 2019 that only has 100 miles on it. Is there a better battery than the factory one that comes with the quad? I don't ride it enough and the voltage drops before the engine has a chance to fire thus the injector isn't firing. I've tried battery tenders. I'm thinking I need more cranking amps.
@@donaldfuller5041 it makes it take off harder sooner it seems like at a lower rpm. Worked for my plowing tons of snow and hate to say it but skidding another of logs lol
Great video! Literally read all the comments lol, I got an 06 700, waiting for a reply from Mike since I'm in Canada, but I'd like to ask, I'm running 27x11 tires front and back. Nothing else do to the bike, how do you calculate what thickness of shims you need? You had 1.2 and 1.5 mentionned bellow, wondering why people go to 2mm, or 1.5 or 1.2 what would you recommend? I'm looking to have the bars hit me in the face while I sit quietly on my atv lol ( wheelie )
So the thicker the shim the more torque you’ll have but slightly decreased top speed, if you want the best wheelie effect your gonna want mike to do his thing on the clutch
So the thicker the shim the more torque you’ll have but slightly decreased top speed, if you want the best wheelie effect you’re gonna want mike to do his thing on the clutch
Thank you for replying! I'll definitely look into the part numbers for the shims 1.5 sounds like a great number to me lol thanks again! If you know where to get the shims, I'll take that info too while I'm here :)
I had a 06 700 and I put on a velocity device copperhead ecu out of Canada it really made a difference woke that thing right up Reference: ECU-SUZ700-UT Condition: New product The Copperhead® ECU is a plug and play replacement (not a piggyback solution) for the stock ECU in the Suzuki King Quad 700. It controls the timing and fuel, and our high energy and repetitive fire ignition allows for crisper throttle response, reduced fuel consumption, while giving substantial power gain.
Chuck Beef yes this will work for them also. Also you can get your primary sheave machined. Look up Suzuki coop mod on google and it’s the first link. He can increase your low end without taking any top end away.
How does that shim model work for you? Is there a major difference in low end grab or top speed etc? Awesome vids bro ur the only one I see with the same quad as me that is doing the mods I wanna do lol
murph big difference in low end torque for sure. You don’t lose too much top end, but you do lose some but I’m never cruising around at 60+ mph so it mattered very little to me. Next up is getting my primary clutch sheave machined...it’s like a gear reduction for belt driven quads but without losing ANY top end. There are 2 guys that do it, one in Utah and the other in Canada. It’s about $200 to get it done.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors dang yea well I ride around here we ride the tracks alot and the road a bit as well so I'd hate to lose too much speed however the extra oomph at low end sounds nice lol I'm contemplating the evolution and tuner these days
murph it’s not a crazy amount lost. You can still hit the track and ride the roadway. Hardly noticeable in high gear. If you skip the shim and do the machined primary then you’ll get more low end and no loss of top end. I just plan to do both for added grunt in any mud and when I get bigger tires
Jamie Jackson so far just the shim mod, I’ll be sending the primary sheave off to be machined (coop mod). And I have my secondary spring ready to be put in.
ericlloyd5727 I haven’t yet, been busy with summer stuff and work. Here is a video that EPI themselves did on the Suzuki secondary spring. Fairly easy process, just need a spring compressor th-cam.com/video/H1YYZ1qMnnU/w-d-xo.html
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors hey thank you! I couldnt find a video. P.s. your videos are great. Haven't seen another person making videos for the kingquad like you make. Fantastic work
rzl07375 thanks I appreciate it. I like it, I can definitely feel more low end grunt from the machine. I haven’t tested to see how much top end but the way I see it how often am I cruising around at 60+mph on my atv. Usually I’m under 25 at any park and especially when going through mud and stuff so it’s not that big of a deal. I plan to do the coop mod and have my primary sheave machined down, it’ll add a little grunt without losing any more top end.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors You have taller tires anyways so your top speed probably isnt reduced all that much over when it had stock tires on it. Yea the machined clutch is where its at for the Kings. Really like the way your machine looks, was looking at on the Suzuki FB group.. very well done build.
rzl07375 true true, and yea just waiting for winter since I’ll have to send it to Canada. I thank you, and yea I discovered the king groups Just about a month ago and have learned a lot since then. I love information
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors Oh your sending it to Canada? I thought you were sending it to actually Coop he's in Utah but I know the guy your sending it to he's first rate to.
Hey man, I wanna get some 26 or 27" mayhems. Do you think This mod is needed? The 26's weight about 25 lbs and the 27's weight about 31 and 34 lbs. I have a new 750. Thanks.
Official_Auto this mod will definitely help restore some grunt that you’re gonna lose going to bigger tires. Is it absolutely needed? No it’s not, the 750 is more than capable. But this just helps the machine make up for the extra weight and improve your low end torque. You will lose a couple mph off the top with this mod, but it’s worth it. I don’t know anyone who’s consistently running 60+mph anyway
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors Got ya. Well I just cleaned up the clutch and rollers and everything so it's now or never. I may try the 1mm spacer while I got it open. Do you have the part numbers for the spacers you used by chance?
@@jaybourbon8608 this is what I used, but you can find them a lot of places www.ebay.com/itm/265203917481?fits=Make%3ASuzuki&hash=item3dbf62a2a9:g:xykAAOSw9GhYdQDn
Jamie Jackson you could....but I highly suggest you don’t. It could be all that saves your leg in the event something were to explode. (Rare but it’s definitely happened)
Ok here is my problem the The primary clutch bolt keeps backing out even with Loctite and torque to spec now what I’m trying to figure out is I think maybe the clutch basket isn’t sitting properly because the bearings good in it as well
Jamie Jackson do you have it shimmed? Enough thread for the bolt to catch properly? Obviously it shouldn’t be popping off like that. Triple check everything cuz that cage is pretty important
Benjamin Lamoureux www.kimpex.com/en-us/products/atv/body-parts-and-accessories/bumpers/kimpex-gen-1-bumper-front-polyethylene-fits-suzuki?sku=073647¤tsort=3&categoryid=2e089b7e-3c21-4836-abfe-0393858f8e52&makeid=a0771da8-1359-46d6-8ca7-74ecc05855a5&yearid=8588fb22-d5c7-48ba-b532-71db61b9d81d&modelid=e98f30d0-65da-415e-971b-36edf4861275
Benjamin Lamoureux www.kimpex.com/en-us/products/atv/body-parts-and-accessories/bumpers/kimpex-rear-bumper-rear-steel-fits-suzuki?sku=073664¤tsort=3&categoryid=2e089b7e-3c21-4836-abfe-0393858f8e52&makeid=a0771da8-1359-46d6-8ca7-74ecc05855a5&yearid=8588fb22-d5c7-48ba-b532-71db61b9d81d&modelid=e98f30d0-65da-415e-971b-36edf4861275
Was that little black rubber piece inside the cover, cause it was on top of the primary bolt when you took it off
Haha yes! And after the video I saw it and had to take the cover off and put it back on 😐
I did the shims today. Thank you so much for this video . Wow what a difference. I have 1000 foot tall mountain on my property and it's steep . Before it felt like it was slipping climbing today it powered all the way to top.
Great to hear, glad it helped
Im having a problem with my king quad the clutch cage will not budge i have removed the 5 bolts and it is completley stuck on there the top 2 is loose but the bottom 3 will not budge any way on fixing this i cannot find this anywhere on the internet to fix this
I got the same color kingquad 750 yours Looks good with the red grips I like it!
Thank you Sir!
i also have a dark green but it 2007
Thx for the vid. This will definitely help me when I get mine done
Great video! Looks simple after this
justin morrison thank you! Yes it’s pretty straight forward, just dive in man
Hey buddy! Thanks for the info- doing mine in the spring! I am curious- what exhaust do you have on it and did you have to re-tune for that exhaust? Sounds sweet!
The exhaust is the Big Gun Evo U, and I got their power box tuner also. I have videos on both if you wanna check them out
@@RidinDirtyOutdoorscan you give me a link to the rollers and shims?
Hey great explanation. I have a 17 kq750 I’m interested in adding shims to. Stock tires. Do you recommend the 1.5 from the comments I saw afterwards? Happen to have a reliable link? Thanks!
Yes I’d still recommend the 1.5 shim.
I just typed Suzuki king quad shim on eBay and you’ll see it pop up.
👏👍
Anyone know the torque specs on the bolt holding the clutch on ?
Snug is my guess
Can u make a quick vid of the before and after of the shim mod
hey I was wondering I’m about to change a belt on my 07 700 tmre do you have to torque down that bold or no I was wondering cux I don’t got a torque wrench or nun. Will it be fine if I don’t torque it down?
Technically yes, but I just gave it a few ugga duggas and called it a day
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors okay if you know how many lbs how many lbs is it supposed to be on a 07 700?
Excuse me ‘ What's the use of Shim mod 1.2m??
Saad 750 the shims act as a gear reduction restoring some loss of power experienced when running bigger than stock tires
Why did you put the shim mod behind ... you have to less top speed as a result....What do I have to do when i want to ride a little bit faster?
It gives you more low end torque. You lose very minimal top speed. But who cruises around at 60+mph regularly?
Did you grease the collar on the inside before you put it back on? If so with what kind of grease? I only ask because you made mention of cleaning the collar but upon installing it you wiped off grease.
Mine still had grease in it, I did this mod with around 100 miles on my machine. I wiped away some grease that happened to come outside of the hole in the collar. If you need grease any multi purpose grease from the parts store will do
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors Thanks for the reply and the video BTW. I assume just a thin coat of grease inside the collar/sleeve? Or do you just put it on and fill the hole?
@@SplitHairz yes just a thin coat inside the collar then place it on. Doesn’t need to be packed, you’ll run the risk of it flinging out all over the belt causing slip and belt glaze.
when you were all finished,and fired up the bike , did you find it hard to initially shift from H to L to R? after i done my mod (2mm) i found it very hard to shift through H L R,. After a few minutes of riding and shifting through again, it started to shift normally.
rubicscube78 I didn’t, mine was pretty smooth. I only did a 1.2mm shim. I’m about to send my clutch off in the next couple of weeks and will be doing a 1.5mm
I’m glad yours went back to normal, the shins probably just had to set in place.
If I have recently flooded my belt box with mud and water at a park is it recommended that I clean the whole clutch system?
Yes, a lot of gunk will build up in there and cause slipping. Wash the entire housing out and get in there good to clean the clutch.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors ok thanks
Hey Man I have the same quad same color too when I go into water my quad won’t pass 10Mph afterwards for like 2 days any clue what to do?
Check your clutch housing for leaks, sounds like the belt is getting wet and slipping until it dries out
Did you ever do the 18g roller model? If so how is the change? And top speed loss? I've had the exact same shims you bought for a few months and I'm just now about to install them. Just wondering if I should go the 1.5 or 2mm. Not super hard to take apart so I guess I can experiment with it and see. I've been skidding logs and all kinds of stuff so the low end is what I'm after
murph no loss of speed with lightweight rollers. I’d go 1.5 or 1.7
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors ok cool yea I went 1.5 and havent quite noticed a lot of difference yet. But I havent been riding it alot either
Was it really necessary to spread the secondary clutch???
I've got a 2019 that only has 100 miles on it. Is there a better battery than the factory one that comes with the quad? I don't ride it enough and the voltage drops before the engine has a chance to fire thus the injector isn't firing. I've tried battery tenders. I'm thinking I need more cranking amps.
@@donaldfuller5041 it makes it take off harder sooner it seems like at a lower rpm. Worked for my plowing tons of snow and hate to say it but skidding another of logs lol
Great video! Literally read all the comments lol,
I got an 06 700, waiting for a reply from Mike since I'm in Canada, but I'd like to ask, I'm running 27x11 tires front and back. Nothing else do to the bike, how do you calculate what thickness of shims you need? You had 1.2 and 1.5 mentionned bellow, wondering why people go to 2mm, or 1.5 or 1.2 what would you recommend? I'm looking to have the bars hit me in the face while I sit quietly on my atv lol ( wheelie )
So the thicker the shim the more torque you’ll have but slightly decreased top speed, if you want the best wheelie effect your gonna want mike to do his thing on the clutch
So the thicker the shim the more torque you’ll have but slightly decreased top speed, if you want the best wheelie effect you’re gonna want mike to do his thing on the clutch
Thank you for replying! I'll definitely look into the part numbers for the shims 1.5 sounds like a great number to me lol thanks again! If you know where to get the shims, I'll take that info too while I'm here :)
@@kingquadking7005 just get on eBay and type in Suzuki king quad shims, you’ll see them for like $10-12
I had a 06 700 and I put on a velocity device copperhead ecu out of Canada it really made a difference woke that thing right up
Reference: ECU-SUZ700-UT
Condition: New product
The Copperhead® ECU is a plug and play replacement (not a piggyback solution) for the stock ECU in the Suzuki King Quad 700. It controls the timing and fuel, and our high energy and repetitive fire ignition allows for crisper throttle response, reduced fuel consumption, while giving substantial power gain.
Do you know if it’s the same process for 2019 and up models?
Yessir
Does this work on a 2011 King Quad 500 4x4?
Jason Jensen yes
Do you think this work for a 2019 KQ750? I have 28” wild thangs and i need more bottom end but Dalton or EPI make kits for 2018 and down only.
Chuck Beef yes this will work for them also. Also you can get your primary sheave machined. Look up Suzuki coop mod on google and it’s the first link. He can increase your low end without taking any top end away.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors that’s what I’m doing this week
Anyone able to point me in direction of where to get the shins I’m struggling to find them I got 2023 750
@@SuzukiRider709 You can buy the ones for a Yamaha Grizzly I am pretty sure. Theres a couple sizes.
Are you sure the collar had grooves inside of it? Mine just spins freely, has no grooves
Mine did too
How does that shim model work for you? Is there a major difference in low end grab or top speed etc? Awesome vids bro ur the only one I see with the same quad as me that is doing the mods I wanna do lol
murph big difference in low end torque for sure. You don’t lose too much top end, but you do lose some but I’m never cruising around at 60+ mph so it mattered very little to me.
Next up is getting my primary clutch sheave machined...it’s like a gear reduction for belt driven quads but without losing ANY top end. There are 2 guys that do it, one in Utah and the other in Canada. It’s about $200 to get it done.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors dang yea well I ride around here we ride the tracks alot and the road a bit as well so I'd hate to lose too much speed however the extra oomph at low end sounds nice lol I'm contemplating the evolution and tuner these days
murph it’s not a crazy amount lost. You can still hit the track and ride the roadway. Hardly noticeable in high gear.
If you skip the shim and do the machined primary then you’ll get more low end and no loss of top end. I just plan to do both for added grunt in any mud and when I get bigger tires
Who does the coop 3 in Canada
I have the same bike with 28 swamp things 2 inch lift and just picked up a epi clutch kit for it what’s done to yours
Jamie Jackson so far just the shim mod, I’ll be sending the primary sheave off to be machined (coop mod). And I have my secondary spring ready to be put in.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors have you put your secondary spring in yet? I'm going to send my primary off and curious to see how the secondary spring goes in
ericlloyd5727 I haven’t yet, been busy with summer stuff and work. Here is a video that EPI themselves did on the Suzuki secondary spring. Fairly easy process, just need a spring compressor
th-cam.com/video/H1YYZ1qMnnU/w-d-xo.html
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors hey thank you! I couldnt find a video. P.s. your videos are great. Haven't seen another person making videos for the kingquad like you make. Fantastic work
ericlloyd5727 thank you! I’ll be doing a few more soon!
Very well done video, interested to see how you like the shim mod. Do you know how much top speed you lose?
rzl07375 thanks I appreciate it. I like it, I can definitely feel more low end grunt from the machine. I haven’t tested to see how much top end but the way I see it how often am I cruising around at 60+mph on my atv. Usually I’m under 25 at any park and especially when going through mud and stuff so it’s not that big of a deal.
I plan to do the coop mod and have my primary sheave machined down, it’ll add a little grunt without losing any more top end.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors You have taller tires anyways so your top speed probably isnt reduced all that much over when it had stock tires on it. Yea the machined clutch is where its at for the Kings. Really like the way your machine looks, was looking at on the Suzuki FB group.. very well done build.
rzl07375 true true, and yea just waiting for winter since I’ll have to send it to Canada. I thank you, and yea I discovered the king groups Just about a month ago and have learned a lot since then. I love information
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors Oh your sending it to Canada? I thought you were sending it to actually Coop he's in Utah but I know the guy your sending it to he's first rate to.
rzl07375 is it mike Stuart? I just heard her was the one to send it to.
Do you install the 2mm mod the same? Just put 2 1mm shims on behind that roller
Thats correct
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors with my 29.5 assassanators I just installed the 14g rollers if I do that will it pull them good you think
Hey man did this help much I have a 20 500 kq it does great just wondering what this helped
It does brother, but if I went back and did it again I’d just go straight for the Coop mod. Are you on the king quad FB group?
Can you explain what for do you putting those 1.2 mm rings on ?
I did
My cover doesn’t cover the secondary only the primary is that an aftermarket cover
@@Hesled_shesled 100 percent factory
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors what year is your machine
@@Hesled_shesled 2018
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors mines a 2022 so they must’ve have changed it.
Thanks for the video was a great help
Hey man, I wanna get some 26 or 27" mayhems. Do you think This mod is needed? The 26's weight about 25 lbs and the 27's weight about 31 and 34 lbs. I have a new 750. Thanks.
Official_Auto this mod will definitely help restore some grunt that you’re gonna lose going to bigger tires. Is it absolutely needed? No it’s not, the 750 is more than capable. But this just helps the machine make up for the extra weight and improve your low end torque. You will lose a couple mph off the top with this mod, but it’s worth it. I don’t know anyone who’s consistently running 60+mph anyway
Please add a link to where I can get the shims and rollers
www.ebay.com/itm/223694964932
My rollers are stock, I just cleaned them up.
eBay you can find them
Ty for that 👍
Is it worth doing this clutch shim without having the clutch machined?
Still gives you performance, you just get a lot more with the machined clutch
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors Appreciate the quick reply. So with stock tires you think a 1mm shim would be good?
@@jaybourbon8608 Yea, honestly on stocks you haven’t lost anything to try and gain. But will still help you out if you get into any thicker stuff
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors Got ya. Well I just cleaned up the clutch and rollers and everything so it's now or never. I may try the 1mm spacer while I got it open. Do you have the part numbers for the spacers you used by chance?
@@jaybourbon8608 this is what I used, but you can find them a lot of places
www.ebay.com/itm/265203917481?fits=Make%3ASuzuki&hash=item3dbf62a2a9:g:xykAAOSw9GhYdQDn
Question can I run my king quad without the basket or belt guard
Jamie Jackson you could....but I highly suggest you don’t. It could be all that saves your leg in the event something were to explode. (Rare but it’s definitely happened)
Ok here is my problem the The primary clutch bolt keeps backing out even with Loctite and torque to spec now what I’m trying to figure out is I think maybe the clutch basket isn’t sitting properly because the bearings good in it as well
Jamie Jackson do you have it shimmed? Enough thread for the bolt to catch properly? Obviously it shouldn’t be popping off like that. Triple check everything cuz that cage is pretty important
No shim kit installed
So found the problem I was missing a Dowel pin on the basket causing it to fit funny and back the bolt out
Run a fan. Nats won’t bug you
Yea definitely needed that lol
What do you clean the clutch with
I was told not to use brake cleaner
@@KyleRevanales16 soap and water, dry it well
Do you have gamefowl?
Jose Gamboa yes
Ridin’ Dirty Outdoors good video man really helped out .....
Jose Gamboa no problem brother! Glad it helped 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Sounds like the chickens are fighting a weasel
They are just loud all day
Link to the bumpers?
Benjamin Lamoureux
www.kimpex.com/en-us/products/atv/body-parts-and-accessories/bumpers/kimpex-gen-1-bumper-front-polyethylene-fits-suzuki?sku=073647¤tsort=3&categoryid=2e089b7e-3c21-4836-abfe-0393858f8e52&makeid=a0771da8-1359-46d6-8ca7-74ecc05855a5&yearid=8588fb22-d5c7-48ba-b532-71db61b9d81d&modelid=e98f30d0-65da-415e-971b-36edf4861275
Benjamin Lamoureux
www.kimpex.com/en-us/products/atv/body-parts-and-accessories/bumpers/kimpex-rear-bumper-rear-steel-fits-suzuki?sku=073664¤tsort=3&categoryid=2e089b7e-3c21-4836-abfe-0393858f8e52&makeid=a0771da8-1359-46d6-8ca7-74ecc05855a5&yearid=8588fb22-d5c7-48ba-b532-71db61b9d81d&modelid=e98f30d0-65da-415e-971b-36edf4861275
Who is killing the chicken ...
@@gregguggisberg4362 no one
One question. Which mod is better. The shims or the 18 gram rollers
Hmmm. Both lol
But I’d do shims simply for cost vs performance
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors thanks. Where's the best place to order shims and 18 gram rollers.
@@RidinDirtyOutdoors what's the best place to order shims and rollers . Thanks
Where do I find shims and 18 gram rollers for 2024 king quad 750 axi. I can't seem to find them anywhere
www.ebay.com/itm/223694964932
epiperformance.com/roller-weights-18-grams-weac5018/
Thanks man. Awesome.
@@markcouch331 🤙🏼🤙🏼