I love soft and floaty cars, I don’t want to feel the road and all the road imperfections on my drive home. The trend towards stiff bumpy riding luxury vehicles has ruined the meaning of what true comfort really is, and that is complete isolation from the road.
Agreed. Automotive journalism has driven luxury to a ridiculous Nurburgring goal. Just makes me sick. If I am buying a luxury car I want a smoothe float on hwy and if I want a nurburgring performer, I buy a sports car.
@@nosoupforyou425 I think you will really like the range rover l460 and the previous l405 even more than the lexus lx. The previous gen rangie was like a boat. It had I think softest suspension. It nosedived the most. Thats why the royal family loves it though. Lexus lx is not behind either.
Well, it feels like a sports car behind the wheel. It’s luxurious at the same time. It is packed with the punch of one for sure. Don’t let that “Soccer Mom van” fool you as I’ve been told it is. I don’t mind being called a soccer Mom van driver. It’s luxury at its finest. You definitely need to drive it daily to gain the respect for it. Lincoln nailed this ride. ♥️
Lincoln hit it out of the park with the Aviator.. styling, engine prowness, comfort, build quality...just get rid of the gear buttons and put back the shift in the center console. Excellent review..
How is the suspension and engine noice in the cab??? I am in the market for a luxury SUV and Aviator is in my top 3 currently, but I hear you feel bumps in the road, engine noise is a little on the louder side, and the steering isn't very responsive..............or am I just getting fake news lol
I was planning to order a 2024 Nautilus next year, to replace my 2021 Nautilus. When it was announced they would be built in China, and not Ontario, I changed my mind. I will now order a 2024 Aviator.
Really love the Aviator. I think it has the best exterior and interior design for the class. Maybe the MDX is the closest Japanese competitor to this one but the Aviator just looks much more luxurious.
I am a lover of nice vehicles. I purchased a 2022 Aviator. I absolutely love it. My only complaint is I would like to have more storage space. That is my only complaint.The color I chose was ceramic pearl with the exact inter of the one above.
As a new subscriber and a subscriber of many other car TH-camrs I gotta say I absolutely love your review style you are the most complete reviewer I’ve come across. The only thing I’d say is if you can add 0-60 times and fuel economy readings? You rock my dude. You’ve become my favorite car reviewer.
Just by accident I came across your channel. I have not seen a car review of this class. Big fan Sir. Keep up the great work sir. Thank you for educating us.
I think this is a step in the right direction for Lincoln. I love the looks of this SUV. I think American luxury SUVs still have some ground to cover when it comes to foreign automakers like Lexus and MB. With the push for more eco-friendly vehicles and EVs and the constant changes automakers aw making with their cars due to this push, it’s hard to nail down a platform that will work and drive sales. When I look at luxury I want comfort and style, not sportiness. The Aviator is what I call luxury.
Thanks for the great review!! I just purchased a 2022 Aviator Reserve and have had two unfortunate paint issues that have required having the vehicle to be repainted and "blended" twice. They desperately need better "quality control" at their Chicago Assembly plant for these paint issues should have been easily caught during or after production. I bought the Aviator after purchasing a 2020 Ford Explorer ST with shares the exact same engine. The engine is incredible, but I wanted more luxury which the Aviator provides in spades! I looked hard at many of the foreign options, but felt the Aviator provided similar luxury with a much better engine and a better price. The 4-Yr./50,000 mile Warranty was also a nice bonus!
You may not see this it’s been so long, but I’m trying to find out if anyone had a paint issue with the Aviator. I’m looking at a 2023, and all the cars on the lot had these weird dirt looking streaks going down the sides and back. I’ve never seen it before. The salesman (of course) said they just needed to be washed, but um no. I also saw it on a few of the 2023 Explorers, so I’m wondering if it is a new Ford paint problem. Haven’t seen it on other cars I’ve looked at that we’re also sitting in lots. Any thoughts?
@@joannsanders242 I had a major paint issue that ran down almost the entire driver's side of my 2022 Aviator. My dealer had the paint issue fixed by a local body shop and I was able to get an extended warranty (6 yrs/100K miles) through Lincoln that covers the paint too.
Great post. Your comments and insights have definitely sold me on purchasing an Aviator this year. I heard good things about it but not as informative as what you provided here in this post. Thanks. Lord willing, this will be the car I will be driving soon.
thanks David. I learn a lot from your engineers full reviews, was looking at a car and the sales man was asking what was I was looking at and doing . I had a nail file checking the gaps and eye balling the sides of the car
I'm in the process of buying a '22 Aviator. I like a lot about it but my two biggest issues are the stuck on the dashboard infotainment. Looks like no one could figure out what to do with it so they just stuck it there. The other issue is the lack of a shifter. I just don't care for those buttons. Otherwise, I'm looking forward to getting my car.
I hope you didn’t let those things steer you away from the best car in the world! I just bought mine and I absolutely love it. The interior was a dealbreaker for me. I was not going for that Brady Bunch camel Brown 😆 but the 22 Aviator is pure perfection ♥️
Very good and honest review. We’ve had 2 previous Lincoln Town Cars that we’ve greatly enjoyed precisely because they are big, solid, and smooth. We’ve just ordered a new ICE 2024 Lincoln Aviator Reserve with all the options in flight blue with a sandstone interior. We live in Alaska where it should be even better than our Town Cars for many obvious reasons. Instead of buying it cash, we’re doing something innovative by leasing it for 4 years and investing in Tesla stock to allow EV Elon to pay for our likely last ICE ride after 60 years of large comfortable ICE rides … a delicious ironic chuckle for sure. Thanks, Elon. Lincoln … Great Cars, Tesla … Great Stock!
I’m going to be buying one but will skip the magnetic ride and Air suspension and just get the 20” wheels with the higher profile tires. I worry about costs of maintaining these expensive systems. There seems to be a trend in the automotive world towards lager and larger rims with ultra low profile tires. Sure they look cool because there is lots of rim and not a lot of tire. I’m not a fan when it comes time to replace them. The sidewalls on these low profile tires has limited ability to absorb big potholes without crushing a rim and the ride sucks too, why spend the money other than improved handling and ride?
Excellent review sir. I can't really argue with anything you said, because I put my money in one. Its not my daily driver, but when I do, I keep it in "Excite Mode" and it surely doesn't drive like an SUV. Also in all my years driving, its the first vehicle I sit in for 10-15 minutes after arriving enjoying the comfort and the Revel sound system. Just subscribed to your channel for though content like this.
Helpful review. Thanks. Hoping you'll give the PHEV a go, maybe a 2024 Black Label GT. Seems like the gas only option denies the Aviator true flight. Cheers.
My sister drives this car now that she has 3 kids and says she prefers it because it feels “detached”. Didn’t know what she meant by that but since you said something like it’s “floaty not engaging”. Wonder if this smooth type of ride is preferred by drivers or do most want to get feedback?
With the turbos do you think they will have a shorter trouble free life, large 6 or 8's seem to be less trouble prone then smaller turbo engines. I want to add that the.Aviator is on my short list. The Navigator was my top choice until they dropped the 8.
Since it's a twin turbo engine and has some complicated tech features, if i get one, i'll probably extend the warranty to 8 years and sell/trade it at the end of that. Or maybe lease for 4 if they have a great lease at some point. If they stuck the Godzilla 7.3 in there, i'd love that.
@@davidhanley same here...parts are way too expensive and they become huge financial liabilities after warranty. I've heard of so many catastrophic engine failures even on engines like the cummins 6.7.
@@AXAR4 I have the 6.7 in our f-350, and i'm doing the same thing. 8 year warranty, probably trade at 7 years 8 months unless reliability reports are stellar. I'd like to buy a car for it to last 20 years but i don't even think my subaru will be good for that long.
Love the content David! Keep up the great work! Do you think Toyota might produce a suburban size suv now that they have extended the frame for the tundra ? If so when do you see that being produced ?
Go for Aviator. You will come back here to thank me. Just make sure you avoid low profile tires on Aviator. You will definitely enjoy driving it. I drive 2022 and I have no regret about it so far.
@@AutomotivePressHello! First up… Great balanced review!! Secondly, could not understand why Jeep Grand Cherokee is a better vehicle given that it has greater incidence of breakdowns and a not so reputed engine.. Only their Summits have good interiors and they are insanely expensive.. maybe slightly better off road and a signature look and loyal fan following but i feel they feed off the logo name and Wrangler reputation.. I felt the fit and finish of interior panels weren’t all that good but they admittedly looked fantastic in the camel color… To pay so much just for the interior, I might as well spend on the BMW which has more snob value!!!
@@AutomotivePress Well, Jeep has never made reliable vehicles. If luxury is what your going for, I would go with a brand where thats in their DNA, which would definitely be Lincoln
Love the consistency of your reviews and the way you call it what it is. Bad engineering, bad execution, bad parts, OEM components not well thought out….👍🏻 Or all the good, no agenda.
I love lincolns to be honest...they did their own work unlike Cadillac (which I also like) . But the cost is ridiculous and also reliability of all these modern cars including Toyotas and hondas is dripping...so I am hanging with my 1964 continental with 900k miles that my grandmother has been owning it since childhood
jet package aviator is sweet. mdx looks like a gym guy flexing his muscle. lexus is so stale. think I'll buy this lincoln for an american change from my q7.
The Lincoln Aviator is a great designed vehicle just poor execution. There are numerous owners with multiple issues and will never buy or recommend again. I'm sure if you lease or get an extended warranty then perhaps you'll save yourself that headache if it doesn't occur with lower mileage. I do like that it's rwd bias and offers plenty of power. Definitely a better alternative to the police friendly explorer. For my money the Navigator offers more room for the same price. If you must have a rwd bias 7+ seater luxury vehicle that fits in this niche then I'd recommend the BMW X7.
seems most people that have issues with the Aviator fall into one of two categories, or in some cases both. first one is the first 1 or 2 years this car was out, the initial batches had some teething pains. Ford seems to have gotten a handle on that and was aggressive to ensure the corrections were made. the second category of problem vehicles is from the overly equipped models with excessive and likely unneeded tech. Every review I have read about the Aviator suggest not to go higher than the "reserve". they have two levels of reserve and for me, I can easily live with the "reserve 1". But if you want heads up display and a few other things, you could opt for the Reserve 2. but i wouldn't go any higher than that if reliability is primary concern as it is with me.
Would love to buy this car but would be scared of all the potential engine, transmission, and body issues. Ford has been failing big the last 5 plus years.
Most domestics seem to have major problems on the way to 150k and at that point owners throw in the towel. Toyotas get abused and just keep going until they get totaled in an accident, get stolen, or rust out.
True, so I consider most non-Toyota/Lexus products as lease options to enjoy worry free for a few years rather than a “keeper”. Financially unsound for most, but fun!
Not sure about that. I knew a guy who ran a luxury limo service and he always told me the Lincolns in his fleet would easily reach 500,000 miles. what would happen is the interiors would begin to look "tired" after so many miles and he would replace the vehicles due to that. Upscale clients would not like worn looking upholstery.
With Lincoln and probably a lot of other makes as well, the key is not buy the totally larded up tech packages as thats usually whats buggy and people have issues with. Most of the poor customer reviews come from folks who bought all the bells and whistles. People who have the lower trim levels have less issues and the car will cost significantly less. And even the most basic Lincoln is going to be more luxurious and nicer than most other cars.
Looks great, but the reliability of Ford products is not so good right now. Eco-Boost engines are hit or miss and extremely expensive to repair if they break down. I got rid of my 2015 Ford not too long ago for a Toyota and have not looked back:P
Its almost futile to attempt to compare these kinds of issues. Everytime i try to do that, I might find a significant issue with a Ford that might be costly to fix that Toyota doesn't have. then when i do a deep dig on the comparable toyota, I will often times find that while they don't have the same issue as the ford, they might have some other issue of their own thats worse than the ford. I just get the feeling of "chasing my tail" when I go down that rabbit hole to compare Ford to Toyota and so on. the best that you can do these days is to see the car is basically sound with no major red flags. this reviewer addressed all points from an engineers perspective. So for me, I feel the Aviator is hard to beat if not equipped with excessive high tech gadgetry
In that case I look at the data that shows Toyotas by far have had much better results and yes I know they have had their bad designs like everyone else, but they also have shown they are fast to fix those issues and seem to always stand behind what they built. I do not see that in Ford or GM. I am an old Ford Loyal buyer in the early 90's and late 80's. I have owned many Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, and Nissan products through the years and its a no contest the Toyota and Nissans(pre-CVT) were always my best experiences. @@robertharte1943
This is false, Aviator was designed and built for regular gas. 2022 Owner manual states: Your vehicle is designed to operate on regular unleaded gasoline with a minimum pump (R+M)/2 octane rating of 87.
Before someone points it out manual does also say: For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. So I guess its flexible🤣
I would buy a Lexus for the reliability. Unfortunately, every Lexus looks like it was designed by Artificial Intelligence that is trying to understand what it means to be human
well, lexus just doesn't really look like an expensive car to me. I hate that they have no bumper. Not even sure how thats even allowed. but if you were to bump a pole or any fixed object the first thing to break would be that big plastic grille thats shaped like a beak. there is no bumper in front of it to protect it.
This is seriously a beautiful car especially if you can snag a plug-in hybrid with the air suspension however, this thing is a total piece of junk they come out of the factory broken and routinely win lowest reliability
You hit the nail on the head with the one caveat about this car. the first model year of 2020 and 2022 didn't have all the bugs ironed out, especially on the tricked out high tech upper trim packages. Even now, i would avoid the larded up tech packages. but the "reserve level" trims are pretty dependable.
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I love soft and floaty cars, I don’t want to feel the road and all the road imperfections on my drive home. The trend towards stiff bumpy riding luxury vehicles has ruined the meaning of what true comfort really is, and that is complete isolation from the road.
Agreed. Automotive journalism has driven luxury to a ridiculous Nurburgring goal. Just makes me sick. If I am buying a luxury car I want a smoothe float on hwy and if I want a nurburgring performer, I buy a sports car.
100% agree. I don't drive for excitement. I want to get somewhere comfortably.
@@nosoupforyou425 I think you will really like the range rover l460 and the previous l405 even more than the lexus lx. The previous gen rangie was like a boat. It had I think softest suspension. It nosedived the most. Thats why the royal family loves it though. Lexus lx is not behind either.
Agreed…I don’t want a sports car I want the soft luxury feel
Well, it feels like a sports car behind the wheel. It’s luxurious at the same time. It is packed with the punch of one for sure. Don’t let that “Soccer Mom van” fool you as I’ve been told it is. I don’t mind being called a soccer Mom van driver. It’s luxury at its finest. You definitely need to drive it daily to gain the respect for it. Lincoln nailed this ride. ♥️
Lincoln hit it out of the park with the Aviator.. styling, engine prowness, comfort, build quality...just get rid of the gear buttons and put back the shift in the center console. Excellent review..
Aviator design, interior, tech, and ride are a wonderful return to luxury for Lincoln. We love ours 3 yrs on.... And is our go to for road trips.
How is the suspension and engine noice in the cab??? I am in the market for a luxury SUV and Aviator is in my top 3 currently, but I hear you feel bumps in the road, engine noise is a little on the louder side, and the steering isn't very responsive..............or am I just getting fake news lol
I was planning to order a 2024 Nautilus next year, to replace my 2021 Nautilus. When it was announced they would be built in China, and not Ontario, I changed my mind. I will now order a 2024 Aviator.
Really love the Aviator. I think it has the best exterior and interior design for the class. Maybe the MDX is the closest Japanese competitor to this one but the Aviator just looks much more luxurious.
Does Aviator hold value after 5 ?I Know for MDX the values drops down a whole lot even for MDX type S at the 5th yr
I am in love with this car. I saw it in person used at the dealer and omg it's gorgeous!!
I absolutely LOVED this review. This is the first longer-length vehicle review video that held my attention the whole time. Bravo, sir!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am a lover of nice vehicles. I purchased a 2022 Aviator. I absolutely love it. My only complaint is I would like to have more storage space. That is my only complaint.The color I chose was ceramic pearl with the exact inter of the one above.
Came here by accident, but I could listen to this guy talk about cars for hours. Very well done
As a new subscriber and a subscriber of many other car TH-camrs I gotta say I absolutely love your review style you are the most complete reviewer I’ve come across. The only thing I’d say is if you can add 0-60 times and fuel economy readings? You rock my dude. You’ve become my favorite car reviewer.
Thank you so much!!
Can review the new Nautilus hybrid combo ?
We love our Aviator one of the nicest Lincolns we have owned so glad we traded back to the new model
Greetings from Alabama.This was a well balanced review. Thanks for your high standards and integrity!
A good review. We do like our Aviator, regardless of what Consumer Reports state about them!
Just by accident I came across your channel. I have not seen a car review of this class. Big fan Sir. Keep up the great work sir. Thank you for educating us.
I think this is a step in the right direction for Lincoln. I love the looks of this SUV. I think American luxury SUVs still have some ground to cover when it comes to foreign automakers like Lexus and MB. With the push for more eco-friendly vehicles and EVs and the constant changes automakers aw making with their cars due to this push, it’s hard to nail down a platform that will work and drive sales. When I look at luxury I want comfort and style, not sportiness. The Aviator is what I call luxury.
Thanks for the great review!! I just purchased a 2022 Aviator Reserve and have had two unfortunate paint issues that have required having the vehicle to be repainted and "blended" twice. They desperately need better "quality control" at their Chicago Assembly plant for these paint issues should have been easily caught during or after production. I bought the Aviator after purchasing a 2020 Ford Explorer ST with shares the exact same engine. The engine is incredible, but I wanted more luxury which the Aviator provides in spades! I looked hard at many of the foreign options, but felt the Aviator provided similar luxury with a much better engine and a better price. The 4-Yr./50,000 mile Warranty was also a nice bonus!
You may not see this it’s been so long, but I’m trying to find out if anyone had a paint issue with the Aviator. I’m looking at a 2023, and all the cars on the lot had these weird dirt looking streaks going down the sides and back. I’ve never seen it before. The salesman (of course) said they just needed to be washed, but um no. I also saw it on a few of the 2023 Explorers, so I’m wondering if it is a new Ford paint problem. Haven’t seen it on other cars I’ve looked at that we’re also sitting in lots. Any thoughts?
@@joannsanders242 I had a major paint issue that ran down almost the entire driver's side of my 2022 Aviator. My dealer had the paint issue fixed by a local body shop and I was able to get an extended warranty (6 yrs/100K miles) through Lincoln that covers the paint too.
This is a great review. I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more views.
Great post. Your comments and insights have definitely sold me on purchasing an Aviator this year. I heard good things about it but not as informative as what you provided here in this post. Thanks. Lord willing, this will be the car I will be driving soon.
thanks David. I learn a lot from your engineers full reviews, was looking at a car and the sales man was asking what was I was looking at and doing . I had a nail file checking the gaps and eye balling the sides of the car
Ha ha that's great! And thank you for your comments!
Awesome video love the engineer perspective 👍🏽
Nobody does better review so detailed great job 👍👍👍
Excellent review. We bought one after the test drive. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
A vehicle I would buy if it was in my currency range. Liked them from the first time I encountered them.
I'm in the process of buying a '22 Aviator. I like a lot about it but my two biggest issues are the stuck on the dashboard infotainment. Looks like no one could figure out what to do with it so they just stuck it there. The other issue is the lack of a shifter. I just don't care for those buttons. Otherwise, I'm looking forward to getting my car.
I hope you didn’t let those things steer you away from the best car in the world! I just bought mine and I absolutely love it. The interior was a dealbreaker for me. I was not going for that Brady Bunch camel Brown 😆 but the 22 Aviator is pure perfection ♥️
@@carmenrenee5146 Bought it. Love it.
I enjoyed you information you provided on the Lincoln. Thank you
I believe the TX will be the first competitor to this suv
Very good and honest review. We’ve had 2 previous Lincoln Town Cars that we’ve greatly enjoyed precisely because they are big, solid, and smooth. We’ve just ordered a new ICE 2024 Lincoln Aviator Reserve with all the options in flight blue with a sandstone interior. We live in Alaska where it should be even better than our Town Cars for many obvious reasons. Instead of buying it cash, we’re doing something innovative by leasing it for 4 years and investing in Tesla stock to allow EV Elon to pay for our likely last ICE ride after 60 years of large comfortable ICE rides … a delicious ironic chuckle for sure. Thanks, Elon.
Lincoln … Great Cars, Tesla … Great Stock!
I’m going to be buying one but will skip the magnetic ride and Air suspension and just get the 20” wheels with the higher profile tires. I worry about costs of maintaining these expensive systems. There seems to be a trend in the automotive world towards lager and larger rims with ultra low profile tires. Sure they look cool because there is lots of rim and not a lot of tire. I’m not a fan when it comes time to replace them. The sidewalls on these low profile tires has limited ability to absorb big potholes without crushing a rim and the ride sucks too, why spend the money other than improved handling and ride?
Agreed 100%
Excellent review sir. I can't really argue with anything you said, because I put my money in one. Its not my daily driver, but when I do, I keep it in "Excite Mode" and it surely doesn't drive like an SUV. Also in all my years driving, its the first vehicle I sit in for 10-15 minutes after arriving enjoying the comfort and the Revel sound system. Just subscribed to your channel for though content like this.
Helpful review. Thanks.
Hoping you'll give the PHEV a go, maybe a 2024 Black Label GT.
Seems like the gas only option denies the Aviator true flight.
Cheers.
My sister drives this car now that she has 3 kids and says she prefers it because it feels “detached”. Didn’t know what she meant by that but since you said something like it’s “floaty not engaging”. Wonder if this smooth type of ride is preferred by drivers or do most want to get feedback?
Does it hold value at the 5th year , MDX drops very low on the 5th year including type S
With the turbos do you think they will have a shorter trouble free life, large 6 or 8's seem to be less trouble prone then smaller turbo engines. I want to add that the.Aviator is on my short list. The Navigator was my top choice until they dropped the 8.
Agreed, concerned with twin turbos.
Since it's a twin turbo engine and has some complicated tech features, if i get one, i'll probably extend the warranty to 8 years and sell/trade it at the end of that. Or maybe lease for 4 if they have a great lease at some point. If they stuck the Godzilla 7.3 in there, i'd love that.
@@davidhanley same here...parts are way too expensive and they become huge financial liabilities after warranty. I've heard of so many catastrophic engine failures even on engines like the cummins 6.7.
@@AXAR4 I have the 6.7 in our f-350, and i'm doing the same thing. 8 year warranty, probably trade at 7 years 8 months unless reliability reports are stellar. I'd like to buy a car for it to last 20 years but i don't even think my subaru will be good for that long.
Love your insight, thank you for sharing!
Great review. This is a nice luxury entry.
I bought a used 2020 cpo aviator and so far received 2 recalls BUT no solution to fix.
How long do I have to wait???
Very informative and thorough review.
Much appreciated!
Well done review
Does any has a aviator 2022 if so what is the status on the suv is there any issues please respond
I love Lincoln
I love my Burgandy Aviator..smooth!!!
What year is yours and which trim?
Love the content David! Keep up the great work! Do you think Toyota might produce a suburban size suv now that they have extended the frame for the tundra ? If so when do you see that being produced ?
Thank you! Sorry for the delay, but I don't think Toyota will produce anything larger than the new Sequoia, which by the way is quite big too
I agree it’s a great car, It might even be the next car I will buy
Aviator or GX 460? Which one would you choose?
They are both great but I do really like the GX...
Can you review ram 1500
im debating btn this car and a jeep grand cherokee, ...what do u think?
It's good question - I think the Grand Cherokee is a better vehicle
Go for Aviator. You will come back here to thank me. Just make sure you avoid low profile tires on Aviator. You will definitely enjoy driving it. I drive 2022 and I have no regret about it so far.
@@AutomotivePressHello!
First up… Great balanced review!!
Secondly, could not understand why Jeep Grand Cherokee is a better vehicle given that it has greater incidence of breakdowns and a not so reputed engine.. Only their Summits have good interiors and they are insanely expensive..
maybe slightly better off road and a signature look and loyal fan following but i feel they feed off the logo name and Wrangler reputation.. I felt the fit and finish of interior panels weren’t all that good but they admittedly looked fantastic in the camel color…
To pay so much just for the interior, I might as well spend on the BMW which has more snob value!!!
@@AutomotivePress Well, Jeep has never made reliable vehicles. If luxury is what your going for, I would go with a brand where thats in their DNA, which would definitely be Lincoln
Love the consistency of your reviews and the way you call it what it is. Bad engineering, bad execution, bad parts, OEM components not well thought out….👍🏻 Or all the good, no agenda.
I love lincolns to be honest...they did their own work unlike Cadillac (which I also like) . But the cost is ridiculous and also reliability of all these modern cars including Toyotas and hondas is dripping...so I am hanging with my 1964 continental with 900k miles that my grandmother has been owning it since childhood
Though the navigator was the full sized Lincoln 🤔
jet package aviator is sweet. mdx looks like a gym guy flexing his muscle. lexus is so stale. think I'll buy this lincoln for an american change from my q7.
For 60+ k, 2024 Aviator or 2024 GV80?
The Lincoln Aviator is a great designed vehicle just poor execution. There are numerous owners with multiple issues and will never buy or recommend again. I'm sure if you lease or get an extended warranty then perhaps you'll save yourself that headache if it doesn't occur with lower mileage. I do like that it's rwd bias and offers plenty of power. Definitely a better alternative to the police friendly explorer. For my money the Navigator offers more room for the same price. If you must have a rwd bias 7+ seater luxury vehicle that fits in this niche then I'd recommend the BMW X7.
seems most people that have issues with the Aviator fall into one of two categories, or in some cases both. first one is the first 1 or 2 years this car was out, the initial batches had some teething pains. Ford seems to have gotten a handle on that and was aggressive to ensure the corrections were made. the second category of problem vehicles is from the overly equipped models with excessive and likely unneeded tech. Every review I have read about the Aviator suggest not to go higher than the "reserve". they have two levels of reserve and for me, I can easily live with the "reserve 1". But if you want heads up display and a few other things, you could opt for the Reserve 2. but i wouldn't go any higher than that if reliability is primary concern as it is with me.
Would love to buy this car but would be scared of all the potential engine, transmission, and body issues. Ford has been failing big the last 5 plus years.
Any of the domestic SUVs are pretty much done at 150K miles. Most of the Toyota SUVs have a lot of life left at 150k miles.
Most domestics seem to have major problems on the way to 150k and at that point owners throw in the towel. Toyotas get abused and just keep going until they get totaled in an accident, get stolen, or rust out.
@@chezzyperson3339 I agree. Everything eventually rusts though. Especially where copious amounts of salt are used and there is repaired body damage.
True, so I consider most non-Toyota/Lexus products as lease options to enjoy worry free for a few years rather than a “keeper”.
Financially unsound for most, but fun!
But the safety what Toyota offers is ridiculous
Not sure about that. I knew a guy who ran a luxury limo service and he always told me the Lincolns in his fleet would easily reach 500,000 miles. what would happen is the interiors would begin to look "tired" after so many miles and he would replace the vehicles due to that. Upscale clients would not like worn looking upholstery.
Aviator=mid-size…
Navigator=full-size.
Only if the Lincoln is as reliable as it looks.
With Lincoln and probably a lot of other makes as well, the key is not buy the totally larded up tech packages as thats usually whats buggy and people have issues with. Most of the poor customer reviews come from folks who bought all the bells and whistles. People who have the lower trim levels have less issues and the car will cost significantly less. And even the most basic Lincoln is going to be more luxurious and nicer than most other cars.
I'll stick with Lexus every day!
Lincoln's are great. Some fords blow. The explorer is ass. If I wasn't buying Toyota/Lexus, I would buy from Dearborn.
Looks great, but the reliability of Ford products is not so good right now. Eco-Boost engines are hit or miss and extremely expensive to repair if they break down. I got rid of my 2015 Ford not too long ago for a Toyota and have not looked back:P
Its almost futile to attempt to compare these kinds of issues. Everytime i try to do that, I might find a significant issue with a Ford that might be costly to fix that Toyota doesn't have. then when i do a deep dig on the comparable toyota, I will often times find that while they don't have the same issue as the ford, they might have some other issue of their own thats worse than the ford. I just get the feeling of "chasing my tail" when I go down that rabbit hole to compare Ford to Toyota and so on. the best that you can do these days is to see the car is basically sound with no major red flags. this reviewer addressed all points from an engineers perspective. So for me, I feel the Aviator is hard to beat if not equipped with excessive high tech gadgetry
In that case I look at the data that shows Toyotas by far have had much better results and yes I know they have had their bad designs like everyone else, but they also have shown they are fast to fix those issues and seem to always stand behind what they built. I do not see that in Ford or GM. I am an old Ford Loyal buyer in the early 90's and late 80's. I have owned many Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, and Nissan products through the years and its a no contest the Toyota and Nissans(pre-CVT) were always my best experiences. @@robertharte1943
Premium fuel….👎
This is false, Aviator was designed and built for regular gas. 2022 Owner manual states:
Your vehicle is designed to operate on regular unleaded gasoline with a minimum pump (R+M)/2 octane rating of 87.
Before someone points it out manual does also say: For best overall vehicle and engine
performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. So I guess its flexible🤣
I would buy a Lexus for the reliability. Unfortunately, every Lexus looks like it was designed by Artificial Intelligence that is trying to understand what it means to be human
well, lexus just doesn't really look like an expensive car to me. I hate that they have no bumper. Not even sure how thats even allowed. but if you were to bump a pole or any fixed object the first thing to break would be that big plastic grille thats shaped like a beak. there is no bumper in front of it to protect it.
@@robertharte1943plastic is the answer. No matter what breaks, if it’s plastic, it will not exceed the repair cost requirements of our 5mph impacts.
Can someone. Can someone let the power of be to get rid of rhe buttinssssssss
rather have this than a range rover
yes, the rover would be breaking down constantly and the costs to fix it are absurd
Tesla interiors are not for everyone.
This is seriously a beautiful car especially if you can snag a plug-in hybrid with the air suspension however, this thing is a total piece of junk they come out of the factory broken and routinely win lowest reliability
... Considering one of these. What's your source for having a low opinion?
You hit the nail on the head with the one caveat about this car. the first model year of 2020 and 2022 didn't have all the bugs ironed out, especially on the tricked out high tech upper trim packages. Even now, i would avoid the larded up tech packages. but the "reserve level" trims are pretty dependable.
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The Lexus LX 600 is way better than this thing.
Buy it for me so I can confirm if this is true 😂 lol jk
LX 600 is $88k-$135k. The Lincoln is $53k-$89k. And the Lexus sucks monkey balls.
LX 600 is not a competitor for the Aviator. The LX600 pales in comparison to the Navigator / Escalade.
Seems to me like Kia Soul on steroids