New laser machine for PCBs, Aluminium and more

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    Halp: / marcoreps
    Remember the 'Lasercubs'-project? The hardware changed a lot, but it is still alive. In this video I assemble and try out an EleksMaker EleksLaser-A3 Pro 2500mW Laser Engraver.The machine performs great after updating the GRBL controller and switching to the Laserweb software.
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  • @4.0.4
    @4.0.4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    At 7:28 we see the proper safety procedure of etching PCBs.

    • @battlecoder
      @battlecoder 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      And at 5:25, how to properly test if a laser diode is working.

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Do not look into beam with remaining eye.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hmm... I was trying to wrap my brain around how will this "laser etching" work, since it's not actually vaporizing the copper. Then it dawned on me that he's basically etching away a small grove AROUND the traces, so after the chemical etching those traces will be free and and independent from the rest of the board... very cool! :)

  • @FireguyNtx
    @FireguyNtx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Totally awesome, and love the dry added humor as well. Very interested in the flex circuit designs in the future. Have been looking also for a perfect way to etch for ages. Remember over 30 years ago the old radio shack etch kit, messy and time consuming. Think I will give this a shot. Thanks.

  • @shraiwi
    @shraiwi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    *THE LASER IS A DEADLY LAZER*

  • @AlexKenis
    @AlexKenis 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flexible pcb idea was great. I'll have to give that a try in the future!

  • @Mirandorl
    @Mirandorl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Your humour is drier than dessicated coconut thats been left in the sahara desert with a sachet of silica gel and then eaten with an extra dry martini. I love it.
    You shouldn't eat silica gel though. Says so on the packet.

    • @adorned0
      @adorned0 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or drier than a semen stain on the bed sheet at a cheep "Motel 8".. tsk-tsk

    • @user46782
      @user46782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      literally all germans

    • @apricotcomputers3943
      @apricotcomputers3943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, the guys German. Lol

    • @PaperPackingMachines
      @PaperPackingMachines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great working! By the way, please feel free to get back to us, if you will need Smart High Power High Voltage UV Lamp Ballasts, reference at www.uvballastsupplying.com. Thanks and have a good day! :- )

  • @pheenix42
    @pheenix42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking of making a circular slide rule, and I think this type of machine would be just the ticket for etching the scales on the moving parts. Thanks for the upload!

  • @android4cg
    @android4cg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, great video! Please make video showing the complete workflow. It seems to be one of the best lasered PCB's i have seen on youtube so far. Thanks for sharing !!!!

  • @mikevanin1
    @mikevanin1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done, Marco!
    I have to mention that you forgot to tell us that ... You'll be back!

  • @nxxxxzn
    @nxxxxzn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We love you man. Keep it up

  • @dbzssj4678
    @dbzssj4678 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just found this channel, I know what I'll be doing this weekend.

  • @gortnewton4765
    @gortnewton4765 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice assembly and review, thanks for showing us.

  • @JohnBailey39
    @JohnBailey39 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The laser firing at start-up is because the control pin is floating while the Arduino is initialising (on my board at least).
    A 10k resistor across the TTL connections on my laser control board fixed that problem for me. Not sure if there is a way to do that easily on a ready made board like that, but on my separate controller board, it was pretty easy.

    • @DrexProjects
      @DrexProjects 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would use something like this module and slice it to the laser power wires. www.aliexpress.com/item/12V-DC-Infinite-Cycle-Delay-Timing-Timer-Relay-ON-OFF-Switch-Loop-Module-Trigger/32820660645.html
      That way you could adjust the the delay time of the laser power to allow the arduino time to boot up.

    • @satipsrl5207
      @satipsrl5207 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same problem with my acan , first time was worried to see my wifes wooden desk with a big burn due at my disattention to power the device without usb plug connected to my pc... :-)

  • @m1geo
    @m1geo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Just the information I was looking for, presented well, clearly, and with a splash of humour! I've subscribed! Thanks!

  • @jbs428
    @jbs428 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job, looking forward to more...

  • @shanethereefer9428
    @shanethereefer9428 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, thoroughly enjoyed your info, humour and general delivery. Liked, subscribed and notifications enabled 👍

  • @battlecoder
    @battlecoder 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome.
    Would love to see more experiments with the laser engraver and your Captain Tape©.

  • @paulinmt2185
    @paulinmt2185 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice overview. Thanks!

  • @maule5653
    @maule5653 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thoroughly enjoy your style of vids and your humor. I'm out of my depths electronically, but glean much entertainment from them. Thank you.

  • @kirkmham
    @kirkmham 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what field of engineering does this fall under? truly fascinating stuff

  • @WilliamEllison
    @WilliamEllison 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love you man keep it up. Great video and funny

  • @K.D.Fischer_HEPHY
    @K.D.Fischer_HEPHY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:05 - AYYYLMAO. Glad you kept your sight, good sir.

  • @bikefarmtaiwan1800
    @bikefarmtaiwan1800 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video content- wonderful narrating voice, really very engaging! Good stuff.

  • @Moonblade042194
    @Moonblade042194 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ordered one with your coupon code I'll upload a video about my usage when it arrives.

  • @Spirit532
    @Spirit532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing to try doing for custom flex is to try heating the -kapton- *koptan* tape with a heat gun, and also try having thicker traces and no big fill planes. And deeper "cuts"(more passes).

  • @Custom_Heroes
    @Custom_Heroes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hello.
    Could you please explain again how did you mange to do flexible PCB? Step by step

  • @nubletten
    @nubletten ปีที่แล้ว

    Saying "peeling that will be the highlight of my day" + no change in voice tone = me having a good lol

  • @WaltonPete
    @WaltonPete 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another inspiring video. Now I want a laser engraver!
    Your dogs are really cute BTW!

  • @techtalkmike4968
    @techtalkmike4968 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having just recently completed the build of an Eleksmill CNC machine myself I laughed when I heard the rooster crow in the background. A build I thought would take 2-3 hours, ended-up taking 6.5 hours including witnessing the sunrise ... on a workday!

  • @Unstable23
    @Unstable23 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yah, that looks good!

  • @avejst
    @avejst 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Thanks for sharing😀👍

  • @AcertainReality
    @AcertainReality 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so awesome!

  • @PeteVanDemark
    @PeteVanDemark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff!

  • @user-xs9vq1xt3e
    @user-xs9vq1xt3e 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the video, I liked it

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video shot, thanks for sharing, keep it up :)

  • @brandonbentley8532
    @brandonbentley8532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive kit for the price!

  • @charleshines6155
    @charleshines6155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those flexible PCBs can open the door for people to create a ton of things. I never thought of using those two types of tape but that is clever. We have some of that aluminum tape which would be very similar to that copper stuff. Also some double sided tape that is remarkably strong for what it is.

  • @clausnymann5527
    @clausnymann5527 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    +1 for the Husaberg logo! :-)

  • @TerryPorterElectronics
    @TerryPorterElectronics 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tutorial, and funny too :)

  • @brunocabral1578
    @brunocabral1578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taking this video as inspiration I decided to try this the DIY way. Lasercut the openbuild ACRO plates on a friend, buy some aluminum profiles, a cheap 500mW laser diode from aliexpress, arduino uno + cnc shield with a4988 drivers, some screws and motors and belt and pulleys and mount everything. Then I used lasergrbl and it worked like a charm cutting paper, EVA, cardboard, and engraving wood. It was all easier than I thought. Will try to laser some PCBs soon

  • @jakobhalskov
    @jakobhalskov 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hah, 5:26 made me smile! (I am in the middle of binge watching every video you ever made)

  • @manickn6819
    @manickn6819 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good review. Looks decent. If you improve the quality please do another video with details.

  • @user-nb8yt2il2r
    @user-nb8yt2il2r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:12 a masterpiece is born

  • @allthegearnoidea6752
    @allthegearnoidea6752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your shot of firing the laser at the butane- LOL

  • @Fugatech3DPrinting
    @Fugatech3DPrinting 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love to see how you set up LaserWeb. I'm new to lasers and having a hard time trying to import something for it to cut.

  • @DavidALovingMPF102
    @DavidALovingMPF102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My laser engraver should arrive the end of this month...Very good video.

  • @tim8505
    @tim8505 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cooles Video marco

  • @ldboehm
    @ldboehm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!
    Really like the thoughts of the flexible pcb. I'm trying to replace a foil circuit for an old car. It has a very specific shape with little hole cut outs to attach to the back of the cluster. Think this might do the job to etch the circuit and create hole cut outs?

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice!

  • @pauldevey8628
    @pauldevey8628 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you. Will you keep us informed of what changes and improvements you make? I am an new subscriber.

  • @NTGInnovations
    @NTGInnovations 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marco, you are a genious! Kind regards from east Germany! :D

  • @razz5891
    @razz5891 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey marco, I must say I really love your videos. Could I request a video on a good headphone amplifier, the components might be readily available with you already and the internet is full of tutorials etc.. but your explanations are very easy to understand !!

  • @Natemasterflex
    @Natemasterflex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OMFG I laughed my butt off when you had the gas canister and your eye under the laser! Very funny 😁

  • @northshorepx
    @northshorepx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video - v. informative and very funny. I love your your sardonic jokes.

  • @markharrington5826
    @markharrington5826 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it very good !!

  • @brh4015
    @brh4015 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bungard sells 0.125mm PCBs even double sided. They are basically sort of pre pregs for multilayer boards. They are not flex PCBs when compared to the kapton based ones. But they are flexible.

  • @snaprollinpitts
    @snaprollinpitts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, that sure would solve a big problem. could you please share the link to banggood, thanks mike

  • @instanoodles
    @instanoodles 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes I wish I bought a kit for my CNC machine, it has been a work in progress for along time. This is very interesting

    • @brunocabral1578
      @brunocabral1578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can mount something similar buying openbuils ACRO plate set, some aluminum profiles, nema motors, arduino uno / cnc shield / a4988 drivers and an aliexpress 2500mW laser for about half the price he paid.

  • @ZoeyR86
    @ZoeyR86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    not sure if anyone has noted this but 445nm lasers us an array based chip tech so you can't get a dotyou end up the a very fine line or oval shaped Dot.
    if you want a round dot use a 405nm laser as they have a true round dot. the dot can be made 3x smaller then a 445nm laser so a 1 watt 405nm preforms about as good as a 3 watt 445nm also with what your doing try swapping the steppers 0.9deg 400 step motors and Ti DRV drivers with finer micro-stepping you will lose 15~20% of your top speed but gain 16X the control over X and Y if you want the top speed back try using a 18~24v power supply for the stepper drivers only.

    • @Rewind_Start_Over
      @Rewind_Start_Over 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      techmasterjoe thank you, I appreciate the heads up.

    • @satipsrl5207
      @satipsrl5207 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      exact ....the burn on my wifes wooden desk has an oval shape :-)

  • @ser7ser7i
    @ser7ser7i 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @joelmoskowitz5170
    @joelmoskowitz5170 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marco,
    This is a great video and NOT BORING. Keep up the great work. I built the Elekslaser and now am trying to get Laserweb to work. (under the eleks software it works fine.)
    Laser web opens a drawing - DXF and it goes to the laser (grbl 1.1) but the laser doesn't turn on at the start of a run. and scaling is off. I am guessing that I need to send some sort of configuration to the laser. Can you share your configuration file and more importantly how to set it up. Everything have tried gives me an error or one sort or another
    rror: 1 - ?G-code words consist of a letter and a value. Letter was not found. error: 3 - Grbl '$' system command was not recognized or supported. error: 3 - Grbl '$' system command was not recognized or supported. error: 2 - Numeric value format is not valid or missing an expected value.
    So I am obviously missing something. -
    thanks,
    joel

  • @AngelusMortis1000
    @AngelusMortis1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is good at reviews

  • @gregandark8571
    @gregandark8571 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For more examples and references about how to craft your own pcb's, you can find also here ; search on youtube for the following videos :
    1 Making PCBs with LDGraphy
    2 PCB Laserprinter Version 2
    3 Homemade Laser Exposer
    .

  • @GenUltra758
    @GenUltra758 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    purchased one myself.. tho i still havent managed to figure out how to get the traced image you use to generate the gerber in LAserweb

  • @rahulbaruri20
    @rahulbaruri20 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did u setup eleks laser pro a3 with laser web 4 software...i want to know the settings of the laser web 4 configuration

  • @tedvanmatje
    @tedvanmatje 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi marco.
    this is the first of your videos that I have watched....have to say, this laser etching seems like a solid idea to me, man.
    if any of you guys have any ideas how I can convince my wife that I need one, I'd be grateful ;)
    thanks for sharing.... +1 to your subscriber list

  • @ezeefrautoes
    @ezeefrautoes 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Marco Reps, what camera are you using? That thing is AMAZING.

  • @thomashanson7600
    @thomashanson7600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Presented in a fine way. Thank you. I would never have attempted such a build had I not watched your vid.
    I am a graphic designer not a C.B. designer. I don't think this would work to take the place of a good photo
    emulsion unless you have any pointers. Again, thanx
    Tom

  • @FLyyyT_
    @FLyyyT_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do that too when I peel the acrylic paper

  • @jessesmith8518
    @jessesmith8518 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg you got me at 2:33

  • @edercarneiro
    @edercarneiro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool as hell.

  • @linuxmintman
    @linuxmintman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if you use this but I would recommend some conformal coating ($20

  • @MidnightVisions
    @MidnightVisions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    @8:37 The reason for the spacing difference on angled lines is the belt configuration running over the pulley wheels has too much expansion and contraction in the belt and wheels. Changing the belt to a reinforced non expanding type and changing the drive configuration to a standard arrangement will fix that.

    • @reps
      @reps  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the belts do have a metal mesh reinforcement inside. What did you mean by 'drive configuration to a standard arrangement'?

    • @MidnightVisions
      @MidnightVisions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This design wrapps the belt around the wheels. the expansion and contraction of the wheels alters the positioning of the head on that axis. the belts should not have any source of contact except for the two pulleys at each end of the machine. this will give the least amount of positioning error.

    • @reps
      @reps  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeh, the flexing wheels! That sounds like a possibility. Thanks for the idea!

  • @andreww1328
    @andreww1328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HI, will this work well if you put it in a vertical manner or inclined at an angle?

  • @backofficeshow
    @backofficeshow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marco, I have the T8 and it also does that damn tool power up on boot as well. Still, it was cheap and hackable.

  • @darkstatehk
    @darkstatehk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be possible to add a laser printer prism to the build to scan the laser over the etching mask? Can such power be deflected using prisms?

  • @5150mkii
    @5150mkii 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gave this video a like just for the goat.

  • @motleydesign
    @motleydesign 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Marco can you also laser in silver ? if yes how deep can you laser in the silver ? Kind regards, David

  • @Paxmax
    @Paxmax 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice boot up state of the laser driver output... How can they get every other thing ok-ish but just completely disregard this obvious safety hazard!? ..what if there is a power out and machine reboots?! Fire hazard?

  • @noissian1
    @noissian1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    super video

  • @ratbagley
    @ratbagley 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:50. Well done.

  • @sanjuuyonsai
    @sanjuuyonsai 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:56 knob feel review channel reference :D

  • @urdnal
    @urdnal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many mils you think you can get out of it? And can better laser optics improve that?

  • @TheMadMagician87
    @TheMadMagician87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Points for the Hussy'berg, represent!

  • @TheElbarfo
    @TheElbarfo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Marco, how did you get Laserweb to trace the outlines of the traces rather than raster it?

    • @moisesferber
      @moisesferber 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same question here. I tried Laser cut option, but I'm not sure it is ideal. Any update on this question?

    • @bumbarabun
      @bumbarabun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moisesferber just use FlatCAM

  • @MikkelKroman
    @MikkelKroman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool! I ordered one through your link! Have you come across other methods for coating a copper clad board and using a laser engraver, other than the spray paint?

    • @reps
      @reps  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, adhesive tapes / vinyl can work, but leave more dirt behind. I am making another video soon, mostly about mechanical improvements, but I might also include a wax spray product, that evaporates completely

  • @dalwinderssi4094
    @dalwinderssi4094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind we need for pcb engraving. Thanks

  • @MarkABorkowski
    @MarkABorkowski 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make a tutorial on how to mod this machine to use laserweb and make pcbs

  • @mlab3051
    @mlab3051 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try to use flatcam we can set passes round for etching . and for the flashing problem might be arduino bootloader , you can upload program using programmer such as avr isp or arduino as isp to upload only program not bootloader.
    This mehod your arduino will startup faster because arduino bootloader will wait for programming sequence about 0.5 second.

  • @bartoszdudziak4675
    @bartoszdudziak4675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you find this (1:17) instruction? I've been trying to find it for some time now with no luck.

  • @andraegraham9668
    @andraegraham9668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can I get some help getting red light from my board.
    after i setup the laser

  • @tomstr21
    @tomstr21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The question is if you prefer it over the 3018 cnc..?

  • @detskekonto
    @detskekonto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, can you please write me what spray you use to make PCBs? Thank you for answer.

  • @sarreqteryx
    @sarreqteryx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it seems to me one of the axes is just slightly out of alignment. that could cause the diagonals to cut the way they did.

  • @marksierra3522
    @marksierra3522 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They gave him a pretty nice case for the parts...

  • @psionicxxx
    @psionicxxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Marco - in 2020, any luck with using lasers to produce home-brew PCBs?

  • @johnmartin6178
    @johnmartin6178 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid. BUT what was the spray etch resist, still trying to find a source of supply?

    • @CarstenBe
      @CarstenBe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty shure it was just black spraypaint

    • @johnmartin6178
      @johnmartin6178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CarstenBe Yeah thanks, I should have gone through the vid again, it was obvious.

  • @tornadoswe
    @tornadoswe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have bought and just now built the 5500kw version of this. Curious to see how well it works with etching pcb's

    • @joonasfi
      @joonasfi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A 5.5 megawatt laser? You must be directly hooked up to a fucking power plant.

  • @ghazimalik
    @ghazimalik 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    wunderbar!

  • @mikelemon5109
    @mikelemon5109 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah flex PCB!!! great video but I don't understand why not to use a laser printer? it can reach much higher accuracys and resolutions....

  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, very nice. I definitely liked the parts with the innocent looking puppies and the Koptan tape.
    Printing flexible pcbs by using kapton film seems like a great idea, if you can improve it. On the other hand, I still do not like the idea of these jagged lines all digital printers make when it comes to making pcbs. Or maybe, I just like straight lines to be actually straight rather than staircase-like. Somehow it doesn't feel right to me. Although I know in low frequency and voltage applications it's no problem at all, I have this nagging thought that it may cause reliability issues 10-20 years down the line (I have this thing about making things that last) especially when, upon maginification, it appears that the staircase lines are actually composed in fact by a number of horizontal segments which have tiny gaps in between (9:07), quite serpentine-like. I'm sure a CNC machine could be designed that would allow for the head to move in a variety of angles. It would only take only one more motor and one more rail (welll, actually two rails: one free to rotate on which the head can slide and one fixed where the other end of the rotating rail would be supported). Is there such a thing out there? I reckon it could be worth the trouble because in theory it should put much less strain on the vertical motion motors (and the whole moving assemblies) when printing diagonal or curved lines. Another advantage would be that it would print perfect circles of any size.