Sail Life - Installing the new hatches, part 2 - DIY boat refit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video, I install the first of the three new hatches from Vetus. Butyl tape is used for bedding the hatch.
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Butyl tape is so great! My dad taught me to make a tiny string of it and wind it around every single screw near the head for about 1/2 inch before screwing anything into the deck, even if there was an epoxy plug (he was maniacal about keeping the core dry and having access to ALL chain plates and such to inspect them once every month or so).
Also a fan of butyl tape on my '76 sailboat. Used it to re-bed an old bomar hatch on the foredeck. To reseal the lens into the frame, I used Dow 795. Anyway, will be easy now to reorient the hinges aft once you sail to somewhere warm :)
Cut the bolt threads off flush, then take a center punch, and strike with a hammer at the thread junction between the bolt and nut. This one dimple in the treads locks the nut, but can be overcome if needed to remove in the future.
I’m not a DIY kind of guy myself but love watching somebody else doing it. You make it entertaining and informative. Keep doing it and I’ll keep watching it. Looking forward to your 2018 progress.
Thank you so much :) Happy New Year :)
Butyl tape! Yes absolutely 😊🙂
3M 5200 is good stuff and has a great flex life. Down side, you will be heard pressed to get it off should you need to.
I've been watching the 2017 playlist for days, now, and very much enjoying it - looking forward to moving into 2018! I just bought a small sailboat a month ago, and my first roll of butyl tape arrived at home today. Looking forward to using it!
Thanks for all the great tips, ideas, and inspiration!
This _may_ be a little late :-)
For a close approximation (without a scale):
- pour the desired amount of liquid into the cup, mark the "full" line
- pour half out into a second cup & discard. You now have 50%
- repeat for 25%, and again for 12.5%
- mark that as the "hardener" line
- then you can pour in hardener to the lower line, then fill with paint to the top line for a 87.5 : 12.5 solution.
The scale was clearly the best option though.
Love your videos!
Hi Mads!
Thanks for a nice series of DIY refitting of a sailboat. I hope your knowledge will come in handy in as I aim for getting a sailboat myself in the future.
I didn't read all the comments, and as this episode is somewhat old now, you might had this idea yourself, or in another comment in a later episode. If I should mix Sigmadur and hardener I would calculate the weight by using the density. I looked it up and Sigmadur 550 has a density of 1.3 kg/l and the hardener 1.03 kg/l. Then you can use your good old trusty scale. ;)
Happy sailing!
Thanks nice hatches
slowly, but surely. i love seeing the progress your doing on your boat
Perhaps this has been brought up already, but the use of Tef-gel is highly recommended under the heads of the machine screws where they contact the aluminum hatch flange. The PTFE in the Tef-gel helps provide a barrier to prevent stainless steel to aluminum contact.
Otherwise, as always keep up the good work.
Happy New Year and all the best in 2018!
Nice little A+M on the ceiling at 6:35 there 😛
Hi Mads, your method for calculating the volumetric ratio was spot on (assuming your maths was correct). I've been a paint chemist for over 40 years and you would put many professional painters to shame! Happy New Year to you & yours.
Measuring cups. Put your cup with the measurements inside a clean one. Mark the outside one. Keep it for future use. When ready to use it put a new cup inside the marked one then poor your two parts into it. That way you always have a cleaned one marked ready tomuse. Don't forget to write the mix ratio on the marked one.
Mads, I use butyl tape on windows and hatches and it apparantly works well. For sealing I have used Tec7 recently. I would recommend you look into this product. Not your silver bullet, but great stuff. Saw you threw away your wooden hatch covers. Would consider keeping them for the winter to protect hatches from condensation.
I was just thinking as I watched the intro that I really do like Athena's lines. She'll look good when she's in the water someday :D
I am on my third sail boat all of which have had leaking ports, hatches and chain plates. I have used butyl rubber tape on every one including setting of deck winches and teak bright work. I am in full agreement that it is by far the easiest and best material for maintaining water tight integrity. In extra hot summers it still sometimes expands outwards and has to be trimmed off. You do a first rate job of anything you you install, well done. You are the type of person I would love to purchase any boat that you have owned as they are certainly going to be very well maintained.
I love your videos
The fortunes are with me, New Year’s Eve and Mads release are on the same day. What a tremendous way to end the year and look forward to more episodes in 2018. Happy New Year Mads!
Hehe, thank you so much :) Happy New Year :)
22+3, 44+6, 66+9 or 88+12 depending on quantity required, would be my suggestion Mads. Happy New Year
Happy New Year and best wishes for your refit.
My pot of coffee just finished! Perfect timing Mads!
Hi Mads, wonderful work and such foresight. I greatly enjoy your videos. I bought my boat new in 2001 and have slight corrosion starting around the SS hardware to aluminum hatch flange interface. No leaks but just dissimilar metal corrosion I believe. I am in love with a product called Lanacote (pure lanolin) that provides a barrier between dissimilar metals. You might consider putting a little of that (or similar product) at the SS to aluminum interface anywhere on your boat.
As for the remedial action I am taking; clean all the corrosion, treat with a product called Corrosion X, and then I regularly wipe the frames with Boeshield T-9 (a Boeing Aircraft company product that leaves a thin non-visible wax film).
Keep em coming.
Your American slang is coming along nicely.
Tack Mads! Tack uppladdningen idag. Exakt vad jag behövde efter jobbat extra nyårsafton. Alltid bäst seglar brorsan!
Butyle tape is the perfect choice for your deck hatches and port-light frames. Give yourself more credit Mads, since you took the time to install everything correctly and you beveled the bolt holes it 'probably' will NEVER leak... at least it won't leak from from the flange seal. My bet is that if you ever develop a leak it will be from some other component of the hatch and it will be relatively easy to service from the outside.
Use butyl tape all the time. Love it, very easy to work with. I do wrap a bit around the top of this group before inserting it and let it squeeze out just to make sure there's no water getting through.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
You've converted me to butyl tape a while back already. Love it!
Glad to witness an illustration of why all boats seem to have screws with different heads in places where they could have been of the same kind!
As always your attention to detail is impressive Mads. Hatch looks great and for the record I find butyl tape to be pretty dang awesome stuff to work with too.
Happy New Year Tony! :) Thanks so much :)
Thank you Mads. I would have used Sikaflex and then cursed myself when I needed to do work on the hatch - I love the way you explain your thinking - it is going to definitely help me when I fix up my own boat. :)
Have a Happy New Year :)
Nice you doing the right way..pulled mine 520 removes gelcoat...520 all the starboard port holes..got the tape for port... wistom well shared.. thanks Skipper..
Thank you for another great video. I look forward to seeing more this new year. Fair winds and following seas.........
Gelukkig nieuwjaar from the Netherlands
Happy New year
No anti climax Mads, always a climax! Hatch looks amazingly spiffy, great job. Happy New Year. Andy, Sussex, UK
Buy some measuring cup so you can measure the volume for your mixing cups use water to find the place to mark.
With all these days off, I had forgotten it was Sunday! Happy New Years, Mads, thanks for all of your patient filming and teaching. I'll wait until the New Year to argue with you about your wrong-facing forward hatch.
Happy New Year
I love butyl tape! We work with it all the time.my guys use it for sandwiching together ductwork (hvac) when I replace ducts at schools you see it all the time that’s 30-40 years old ands it’s just as if it was added yesterday. Great stuff! I think it’s anti-microbial also but don’t quote me lol. Great video 👍🏻
I used the same manufacturer of butyl tape in my refit. Great stuff - would do again.
It was a little expensive to import (stupid tax and import fees) but it very much seem worth it :)
On my boat, the opening is in the opposite direction to help the wind to enter when you are at anchor
Looking pretty dang spiffy!!!
Maybe buy a plastic measuring cup, measure water, pour into disposable cup and mark your required units? I always try to have a small clean measuring cup around just for that purpose. Well done your way however just a lot of thinking. Don't want to peak out too soon!
I was sitting here shouting 'butyl tape!' at the point where you were working out what to use, and then you produced it. Haha!
LOL, I had exactly the same thought. I've used Butyl on my boat ever since I learned it existed and never have been disappointed. I even have some aboard in my toolkit. Keep up the good work and a happy 2018! Grtz, Timo
Good job Mads! I can see you used the ONLY proper marine butyl tape available - Bed-It Butyl Tape from Maine Sail! :)
Thanks! I've had very good luck with Bed-it aboard Obelix but to be fair it's the only butyl tape I have actual experience with ;)
You should have put a small piece of Butyl tape under the head of the screw before screwing down to prevent water from seeping in the screw hole..... Otherwise amazed at your dedication.......
Bought my Bed-It butyl tape from the same website. Lots of great info on that website.
Nice works buddy!! Remember the symbol of the can... you should use protection for nocive vapors. And you can intoxicated also by been direct expose with your skin.
Be safe! Keep posting
Happy New Year and Thanks for keeping me company every Sunday’s dinner. You’re an inspiration for DIYers and your positive thinking is refreshing. I hope life will bring you health and happiness so you can cont8nue to entertain us all. From Canada : Bonne Année !!
BROOOOO! Love your vids! super motivating! next project an old RV?
happy new year!!
Hi Made, very late I know...
On the paint/hardner mix; weigh 50g of water, mark the cup, 50mL. Add 50mL of paint and weigh. Work out weight. Repeat for hardner. Simple maths to determine the weight of each you need.
I love your methodical approach to the way in which you tackle your projects. A lesson to us all. There is a saying which involves 6 x P's. (Proper Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance). You certainly have the 6 x P's Mads. Happy New Year to you, and hopefully see some more progression in the coming months. All the best.
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Love your videos. Happy New Years to you and your family. As a fellow northern country dweller I am jealous of you just only dealing with rain as we have 35 cm of snow. Yuk. Oh well on to another great year.
Happy New Year to you Mads. A sealing arrangement I never thought of was a friend of mine did his hatches using, of all things, toilet wax gasket. He bought a couple and took the wax and put it on the hatch then installed. When I asked why he said that is what he has always used, it resists almost all chemicals, never gets hard stays flexible and creates a vacuum when tightened so makes a vacuum seal.
I like the way you created the measuring marks.
I would have put the small amount in first, however as it would have given you more accuracy. IMHO.
Just a thought.
Thanks :) That's a good idea :)
Great Mads, if you're going to be doing more mixing, why not get a bagful of cheap pipettes off amazon. far better than pouring from a tin. Keep up the good work.
... godt nytt år Mads
Hej Mads
Happy New Year
I know that you don´t have any nearby but if you look in Bauhaus they sell stainless steel screws and bolts, etc. in bulk.
So far it's the cheapest option I've found :-)
Mvh Tommy
Since the cups are clear you only need to draw measurements on one cup and save it. Then set the mixing cups inside that cup. You can have several measured cups for different applications.
Madz - great job all round. My only suggestion would be that when you are doing new installations like this and buying new stainless steel screws to do your best to source those with Torx heads. HNY👍
flexible and watertight, sounds suspiciously like nature rubber.
Butyl is highly regarded in the weather resistance barrier field. I have used it as part of an engineered building envelope. My yacht rigger used it when rebedding my chain plates. Excellent choice.
Very interesting :) It would be fun to take a look at the history behind butyl tape :)
Happy New Year Mads !
Sooo satisfying to watch you put in that hatch Mads! Great job and as always, very impressed and entertained by your work! Happy New Year! Looking forward to the next video 😊🎉🎇
Thank you so much :) Happy New Year!
Great stuff Mads. No anticlimax at all. These projects can often meet with unexpected obstacles. Happy New Year!
I rather like your choice of butyl tape. I used it on my leaky sailboat. I used it to bead all my deack hardware with wonderful results (no leakes). The only thing I did differently was I put some butyl tape on the head of the screws.
Happy New Year Mads from here in Austin Texas. Its funny how you feel you know someone just by spending a little time each week for a couple of years.
May your new year be even better than your last!
The very best for the next year , like your video's , best whishes ....Johan from the netherlands
Thanks Mads, always look forward to your videos. Happy New Year from Australia 🎉
Thank you so much :) Happy New Year :)
Love watching everything you are doing. I learn something every episode. Happy New Year, Mads!
Happy New Year! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. Thank you so much :)
He Mats, first of all a happy New year. I hope you keep Thomsen video s comming because I really enjoy them.
Always enjoy your videos. Great job.
Thank you so much :)
Enjoyed the year of Sailing Life and looking forward to 2018. As always thanks and happy new year.
Great video and smart choice on the butyl tape been using it on cooling towers for 30 years . It is also easy to repair leaks from expansion from heat/cooling .
Happy New Year!!!!!!
I saw your secret message on the overhead. Nice
Yeah, I'm quite smitten with the young lady Ava ;)
jeg så det også ; )
Yes, 3M 4200 and the 'UV' version called 4000 are common bedding compounds, they have their advantages. 5200 is a huge 'no no' for bedding anyway, using that is just asking for a world of hurt, it will rip off laminate if you ever had to remove what you sealed. 5200 is good for the keel to ballast joint underwater, that's about it (maybe a few other uses you would consider permanent).
Mads, you kill it!!
An alternative would be to cap the screws with acorn nuts after trimming them. It will save possible knuckle and scalp damage.
True but I like the idea of hiding them underneath the headliner :) I don't need to access them on a day to day basis and the headliner will be easy to remove in case I need to get to them :)
godt nytt år till dig "s" og Jökul
Happy new year, Mads! I enjoyed watching your video's in 2017 and looking forward to those in 2018.
Thanks for staying tuned :) Happy New Year :)
Happy new year Mads. Butyl is the way to go and your not counter sinking the nuts is the correct decision imo.
The right way to do the paint is of course to use a proper mixing cup with the units marked. Buy them in bulk my friend.
Hi Mads - I appreciate that the headlining is quite some time away, but can I suggest you thinking about Plastazote closed cell foam. It would, I think, save you a great deal of time and materials. Have a look at the website. It is available in basically 25mm thickness 2400 x 1200 mm sheets. It's easily cut, can be routed , insulates, is very light - yet rigid, will conform in more than one plane , unlike plywood and is easily covered by a decorative finish like vinyl. Best thing is - you can secure it with velcro. I have used it for all sorts of applications. I have no affiliation with this company but I hope this might be something to consider. Best regards.
Another great video! As far as I can remember Butyl Tape is all I have ever seen used around hatches and port lights, I think the 5200 would be way to difficult when you have to remove one. Happy New Year to you and your new lady! I look forward to these videos each Sunday, Thank You.
Butyl tape works amazingly well for so many applications. Another great video mads, happy new year
Happy new year Mads! Thank you for the video, I hope Jökull manages all the fireworks without harm or stress :)
Happy New Year :) Jökull actually handled it perfectly. He slept right through all of the fireworks. As long as we're aboard Obelix he's okay. If we go outside he freaks out.
I admire your math skills Mads.
Godt nyttår, happy new year.
Hi there Mads,
Happy New Year and thank you for so many great vids. Have been following your progress for a couple of years whilst completing an almost identical refit on our 30 year old 43 footer. It's nice to share the highs and lows with you. As an aside, have also mounted my hatches etc with buytl mastic, love the stuff. One thing to consider may be the use of Tef Gel or Duralac on the machine screw heads to stop the inevitable galvanic corrosion issues between the SS and the alloy hatch frame. I have discovered this screw up the hard way in the past.
Anyway thanks for keeping me inspired to push on! 👍
Thanks for another great video and happy New Year!
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Godt nytår til dig og tak for super gode programmer. Det blev midt første TH-cam video i 2018. Kunne ikke falde i søvn. I gen tak for dine videoer. Den islandske danske sejle entusiast
Mange tak! :) Rigtig godt nytår :)
Happy New Year Mads...from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Happy New Year :)
Happy New Year, Mads..........I love your videos, always informative !
Happy New Year! Thank you so much :)
Happy new year to you as well 👍🏻
Thanks! :)
Nothing more satisfying that watching a new episode of Sail Life. I so enjoy the geeked out detail you are so good with. happy new year man! By the way m6 Sail Life mugs arrived this week and I’m super please with them. All the best for 2918
Thank you so much! :) Happy New Year!
A + M, yes I noticed... lol cute.
Great vlog mads and happy new year from Ireland