The AOT ending was kinda WACK
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- Hear me out before you attack me in the comments please. I love Attack on titan. And its exactly because of that that I can't help but speak out about these things in the ending.
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Eren didn't really explain it right no yimir doesn't love Fritz it's more or less brainwashing and about the mikasa thing I think it should be pretty obvious that yimir sees herself in mikasa he "loves" Fritz and mikasa loves eren although mikasa and eren's love is more real sp they're both completely devoted to a person also about posting in a reply section for some reason my normal comment is not working
@@kollichandan4914 yeah the reason she picked Mikasa is pretty obvious but it still doesn't make a lot of sense. So Mikasa inspired Ymir by letting go of her love for Eren and killing him. But she is killing him because Eren did something Ymir wanted. Ruining Eren's character in the process.
And like you are saying, if it's brainwashing then we could have still gotten some more explaination as to what kindoff of brainwashing.
@@stalkervalley Trying mate 🗿
@@videodimension69 Please sir, we AOT Eurobros need to stick together, the anime was literally made for us.
Totally agree with this analysis. This ending gave me a slightly more positive Game of Thrones like ending where its like.... that was alright I guess since its so cinematic, but from character writing and plot strength it was completely below the standard they had set throughout the show. Like if you're gonna go this route anyways they should have kept Eren the villain thematically, instead of turning him into a whining bitch that tries to take back everything he just did in the form of talking to Mikasa and Armin in their memories. Not to mention the obvious plot holes like WHY IS EREN A COLOSSAL TITAN WHEN HE DOESN'T HAVE THE RANDOM ALIEN TITAN SPINE? He no longer has founder titan powers, meaning he only has his attack titan form, RIGHT? Nope just ignore the story he's colossal titan now, sure.
The deathbaiting when Jean, Connie and the Eldian families turn into titans just for them to turn back to humans 5 mins later also didn't feel like it was done in signature AOT fashion, it really did feel cheap.
Not to mention the very cycle of hatred that Eren was trying to destroy between humans literally gets recreated, so Eren destroying literally 80% of the world ultimately was literally FOR NO REASON. Like he fixed nothing, destroyed everything, and just ended up being a overly-possessive closet simp the whole time??? What a fall from grace in my eyes, they destroyed Eren's character
When the manga released this ending it was so poorly received and fairly so, they tweaked it slightly in the anime to where its a little better but really just the same shit. But of course, MAPPA absolutely COOKED with the animation, and soundtrack, and cinematography enough that a lot of people are obviously going to enjoy the ending of this crazy decade long venture for most people, but when you take a deeper dive into the continuity of the story, man they fucking butchered it.
Haha for real man, cinematography and music was so good that while editing I sometimes just went like.. man is it really that bad? Just to look back at the reason I'm making the video in the first place and being like:
Yeah no it is bad
Colossal eren is insane😂😂
bro actually didn't understand anything, first off, eren turning into a colossal titan was off of the fact of having the FT power still remain temporarily after getting disconnected from the hallu, they explain this in a title card in the episode version of the show, and eren already did this before back in S2, the characters turning into titans wasn't a bad thing at all and really shown on how they LITERALLY have to kill eren right now end this hell, you didnt understand eren's character what so ever for you to explain say that it was a character assassination, the person who's literally killing humanity turns out to be a sad, emotional kid brings depth to his character.
@@7iscoe just say you want Eren to be a simp pussy loser and move on dude
@@7iscoe "Eren was just a teenager, he did nothing wrong!" haha what the fuck
Writing wise, there's not even one single thing that is even decent or average. 2 years were spent on building up Historia's pregnancy plot when the manga was still running and what was the payoff? She was fucked by a farmer who threw rocks at her and married him. Talk about being anti-climatic.
Eren freed Founder Ymir from her eternal slavery in the Paths and she started crying when we see her eyes appear for the first time. She rejects Zeke and teams up with Eren. She was waiting for someone like Eren who would free her. The story comes full circle here.
To you, 2000 years from now
From you, 2000 years ago
And then, every buildup between her and Eren is thrown out of the window and it is revealed that she was madly in love with the man who raped her, abused her, enslaved her, made his daughters cannibalise their own mother and she madly falls in love with him? And yeah, this ain't stockholm Syndrome
An S tier character like Zeke dies because of Armin's Talk No Jutsu and a Leaf?
Levi just becomes like Mikasa during the final arc. He is obsessed with Zeke and she is obsessed with Eren. Levi gives a salute when he sees the ghosts of the scouts as if they would agree to join the alliance. Why is he forcing his opinions on the dead people? How does he know what their choice would be if they were alive? Annie is still alive
The Hallucegenia/ Worm Kun still exists because it suddenly vanishes when Reiner was wrestling it. Titan curse still exists I guess. We never saw Reiner kill it.
Isayama tried so hard to make Eren a sympathetic little boy so that his genocide can be justified by revealing that all of this happened because of Ymir. What was the point of this story if Eren was just Ymir's pawn on a chessboard since episode 1? His agency was snatched away.
Eren is the core essence of AOT and his assassination means story's assassination.
I thought Eren freed Ymir but it was Mikasa? What the hell? Historia was built up to be the parallel of Founder Ymir for so many years.
Erwin died for nothing I guess because every event of AOT World happened was a love experiment so that Ymir could see Mikasa make out with Eren's head while blood dripping from his neck in 2000 years.
The powers of the Founding Titan don't work on Ackermans and it was retconned to please EreMika shippers
wait do you just copy & paste the same comments on every aot video that criticises the ending? thats kinda lame ngl
Very valid points that don't help this already flawed ending indeed.
@@Epsilonn Did he? Never seen his comment somewhere else
@@videodimension69 ye i double checked on a video i saw a few monthe ago. he has like 6 or 7 comments that he just copy and pastes lol
@@Epsilonn Yeah, I don't have time to write it again and again. So copypasting is the best option, it is not lame, it is called being smart. And I am just stating facts afterall. Ending Defenders keep saying that those who didn't like the ending don't explain it. Well. here you go, I explained why this ending sucks
I especially don't like the twist where Eren kills his mother as the only excuse given is that it wasn't Bert's time to die. Like he could have ended it right there but chooses instead to kill his own mother rather than have him die right there and save his people a tone of trouble. It's so contrived and as you say ruins many scenes involving his mother.
I agreed pretty much with you.
I loved the ending when it first came out in the anime but flaws were obviously there and think about it little, they are really deep flaws and could have easily be avoided,smash.
U get me
Thats what happen to me like I love ending after rewatching whole series and plus using my 15 brain cells I realized this ending story wise is bad. Because we are blinded by the cool animation and music we never critical think whats going on in the story
Hated the ending when it came out and hate it still to this day. What a way to retroactively ruin a lot of the story with the whole Eren paths time travel bs. Also Ymir. Also the whole Eren and Mikasa thing felt so far off when it was never in the story up until the final moment. Really dumb way to end it especially when he's literally genociding the world. Lets also not forget the characters all became idiots.
I don't mind Mikasa and Eren being in love but the way the story did it was so bad
@@videodimension69 Their romance was so poorly handled. The author even said that he sees her a mother figure figure and the Dina scene where Hannes dies is not romantic from Eren's side. He had more fleshed out conversations with Historia than with Mikasa
I feel like everyone misunderstands how utterly insane the plotwist of eren killing his mother is. Ignoring the motivations part... He was never extablished to be able to time travel! And they put this power into the story for this??
Why didn't every other founder (ymir cough cough) time travel ?
It came very out of left field indeed, and it really just made plot holes
nah its not time travelling its sending memories back in time its toooootally different 🤡
SAO was very popular and liked by the masses when it first was released
So tired of “AoT’s ending is good because of the popularity contest”
With that logic your only basis for it being good is the same people said about SAO and… look how that turned out
You are speaking nothing but facts
I remember reading the ending chapters live and having this feeling of, "Ummm wtf is this???" I was a HUGE AOT stan for years. I would not stfu about it on social media in terms of what I was keeping up with. The first season of the anime is what got me into reading and keeping up with the manga. I was shouting its praises for the writing. But nah I gotta pretend that ending is not real to cope. I feel like too many people worry about being nice and feeling like an asshole if they criticize an author's creative work. (Or they just lack compositional literacy).
thank u for this nice and comprehensive analysis. i was kinda unsure about how i felt about the ending, would probably rather have seen ereh go for the nuke option to finally break the cycle of violence (cant make an omelet without breaking a few eggs) completly and not leave it ambigous like it is now.
also i feel like the whole "make mikasa and the gang heroes"-route was kind of whack because he couldve wiped out less of the world for the same effect. but idk maybe i missed vital parts of the plot, i am kind of a lazy and dumb viewer.
sending thoughts and prayers that u make more cents in the future :)
I agree with you mate, him just going full rumbling mode would have been very interesting to see too and something that would also keep people talking for years.
And thanks for the kind wishes 🙏 let's hope I make more cents haha
One thing about the show is the more you think about every scene in the show, deeper it gets. but more you think about the ending the dumber it gets.
To me and what should have been erens goal is what he said to his father about being a scout. its the same thing erwin smith gave a speech about during his last charge. Those who follow our footsteps should find meaning in our sacrifices. Countless soilders have killegave their lives because eren is their hope. and what does he do he just gives a Fk about his freinds and Fk the island i guess. i know he loves his freinds but thats not his only goal. if he dosent carries the will of his soilders anymore, then ive lost all the respect for this man. but the ending was just written to shove a love story that was never there to begin with.
Great comment man especially that first part. I could not agree more with those 2 sentences
Eren can control Dina in the past that means he can control every pure titan in the past. He could've saved so many lives and come up with a better solution. Paradis would've had 5 shifters in the first episode if Eren used his brain and change the past.
Dina's Royal colossal titan, Grisha would've had Attack and Founder, and 2 more pure titans would become the female and the armored titan
We could still get an aoe so dont even worry abt it
brother, this is copium
@@Epsilonn no, it's the truth
worm wasnt from space btw
Oh yea something with evolution idk still pretty dumb Imo
well, since aot focus on reality, maybe isayama is trying to tell us reality is often dissapointing.
Valid for sure, hence if it weren't for all the holes in the ending I wouldn't mind paradis being destroyed. It would hurt my soul for sure but from a story perspective it's not bad
It was nothing like reality at all.
@@jaipandey7142 the true side of human
@@edward-dq7ww If it was about true side of human, the Alliance member would have been already dead and there might not be any inconsistency with Eren's motives
@@jaipandey7142 nobody would be watching aot if you wrote it
cool video but i do have to disagree with most of your points.
i agree that ymir/hallucigenia added little to the story's themes and didnt have enough context/explanation behind them, but i think they are mainly meant to be used as plot devices to move the rest of the story forward.
maybe the story couldve still worked by keeping them a mystery, but its hard to know whether or not their omission wouldve made everything more or less confusing. questions like "what are titan shifters", "how do the paths work", "why are titans created", "what started the titan curse", "why do marley and eldia hate each other" and "why are royal bloods special" would never be explained, which might just make the story even more confusing.
i think ymir's love is meant to be illogical and kind of absurd. i think it wouldve been more confusing if all her feelings were explained, kind of like you mentioned in the previous point about "preferring if things arent given an explanation". so long as you understand that ymir loves the king for some reason, i think thats all that matters. we dont need to understand all of the precise emotions that a character might be feeling.
i also dont think everything eren did was to "achieve what ymir wanted" - i think thats a little bit of a misinterpretation. its true that ymir wants mikasa to kill eren in order to prove that its possible to kill somebody that you dearly love for the sake of the greater good (as mikasa views eren in the same way that ymir views fritz), but eren still has his own motivations and goals outside of this (saving his friends from marley, ending the titan curse, experiencing the freedom of trampling the world). i think its clear that eren still has his own desires/goals within the story which he pursues completely independently from ymir's influence
its a bit inaccurate to say that eren "becomes a slave to ymir" after he touches historia's hand - all that really happens is he sees a future which he cannot avoid, because aot's universe is deterministic. if anything he probably just becomes a slave to himself, because he was the one that showed grisha memories of the future which eren then saw after touching historias hand (and thematically, eren being a slave to himself is very fitting). i dont think theres any part of the story that states ymir is the one who causes the universe to be deterministic.
i agree that theres no reason for eren to control dina to skip bertholdt and eat his mom. i mean it kind of reinforces the whole determistic universe thing i guess, but its also just a bit redundant & opens up a whole can of worms about eren having the ability to control titans in the past. in my opinion this probably should have been omitted from the anime version.
i heavily disagree with you on the message part. i think its a very potent illustration of the human condition, and shows how we can all try to take steps to better ourselves and achieve peace if we learn to empathise with people we might dislike, in the same way that the alliance do (in some ways its a similar message to "i have no enemies").
i disagree that war "isnt a part of human nature" - it is. tribalism is fundamental to our survival and is the root cause of violence/fear/hatred within humans. but even from a social standpoint, war is a result of many smaller factors culminating in an explosion of negativity, and almost everybody contributes towards those factors in some way shape or form. in my opinion, isayama is just conveying that we need to be conscious about these factors and avoid perpetuating hatred/fear/negativity when we dont need to
Hey Epsilon, thanks a lot for your comment and compliment. Although I get your points, I still don't really like the ending and think that although a lot of your points are indeed true, I think the big lines of my video still stand. Still, your comment is very valid, and I appreciate the time you took for writing it.
Armin would hold Eren's hand and smile at him when Eren kills his own mother but Armin would punch Eren for hurting Mikasa's feelings? I can't take Armin's character seriously anymore. Armin wanted to have a chance to talk to Eren for so long and convince him to not do the rumbling but when he finally does get the chance, he is talking about love and Mikasa finding a better man and making a stupid weird face while Eren is actively murdering millions.
Armin must be asking logical and important questions to Eren.
Those who use violence are not intelligent according to Armin
This kind of ending might work for Erectile Dysfunctions but not for me. This is just my opinion. No need to get offended
ARMIN IS A TRASH CHARACTER
hahaha ymir founder chick XD
I mean the message is also kinda: "full genocide would have saved eldia after all."
If he wanted to go for the "humans will always fight" message it should have been the eldians waging war against each other (after the rumbling only left eldia) and hence continuing the cycle.
i guess but i think he kind of needed to give the alliance something to do, and he couldnt have killed off the alliance or made them fail to stop eren without making the ending feel very depressing
@@Epsilonn I think a series like AoT deserved a depressing ending, because anything else would require too much suspension of disbelief. It just makes absolutely no sense how the alliance "won" with almost zero casualties and all the plot conveniences. Like Falco can fly despite being the Jaw titan and not the Beast Titan. And how does he know? Through Memories! Something only the Attack Titan can utilize...
Also depressing endings can be iconic like End of Evangelion or Berserk 1997 and I really thought Isayama had the backbone to pull off something in that vein 😞
@@edgarh7879 imo it is appropriately depressing as it is, with eren being killed by mikasa/the world being 80% destroyed/paradis being destroyed in the future. i guess maybe the story could've been pulled off where the alliance fails or dies or something (although imo that wouldnt fit their character arcs very well and would undermine their pursuit of peace), but im pretty happy with how it is. tbh i feel like a lot of people exaggerate how "happy" the ending is - its not really that happy at all if you think about it, aside from almost everybody surviving
The colossal titans should've started walking forward or eat people once zeke's head was decapitated because they are still like PURE TITANS
Pastor Nick in S2 tells the soldiers to avoid the sun rays from reaching the colossal titan inside the wall
I think the reason why PURE TITANS get a boner to eat humans because maybe Ymir's daughters cannibalized her (ATE HER). So this might be the reason why titans eat humans
Everyone was getting toasted into dust so probably not possible lol
Ymir did what she did Because she had never a own will and was just a slave. And the thing that Eren killed his mother because Berthold could not die now dont destroy the dialogue of eren and reiner because it was Reiners decision to destroy the walls
Doesn't change that Ymir ruined Eren's character. And Yes Reiner chose to destroy the walls. Because Eren put him in a situation where he would do so. Eren is still behind it
@@videodimension69 i agree that the character of ymir isn’t really clear but why did eren cause reiners decisions. He did it because of egotistic purpose even though he knows its wrong such as eren, so the quote im the same as you makes sense too
Except Bertholt could have just died right then and there if Eren hadn't interjected. Hell, considering he can control Titans in the past why didn't he just have the warriors eaten?
@@TheDon266 he could only sent it to his mother because she was hurt and also it was needed for the story so that eren even want to kill all the titans
He could only send it? The fact that he did means that he could have not done that. He did because he needed to motivate himself when he already had motivation and so chose to kill his mother. She may have been hurt but then he can control Titans in the past so he could have actually tried to save her. Instead he decides to have it kill her solely so a Marleyan warrior, the colossal Titan live. Forget the conversation with Reiner, any scene where Bertholt kills someone I now know is because of Eren.
It’s so bad that you would have to do it on purpose. Hmm…on purpose…. The only explanation for me is that Isayama did it on purpose to hurt the fans that followed the story. Isayam said he copied Muv Luv, it has to mean that he wanted to do a bad ending first and then a good Alternative ending
Conflict and war will never end. Ending haters know that. Eren's goal was never to end Conflict among humans, he wanted to end the racism and cycle of hatred against his island people. And Isayama wrote AOT in such a way that either the world genocides Paradis or Paradis genocides the world. He finished 80 percent rumbling and the remaining 20 percent destroyed Paradis. Eren did not even secure his friends' future because the yeagerists on the island will kill them in an instant LOL. Eren is a failure and ARMIN is a joker. The formation of Alliance is the dumbest thing in fiction because they want to protect a world that hates their island
Bruh did eren literally fight armin as a colossal titan and basically it was balanced....that was so lame he had so much power didnt even make a warhammer weapon for the massive titan...a simple thumder spear - gtfo.
I personally loved the ending and, considering that polls show that literally 90% of the entire fandom liked it, I gotta say that you’re definetly in the minority here.
But it’s your opinion and I respect it.
"Lots of people disagree, therefore you are wrong" 🤓🤓🤓
Oh I'm definitely aware I'm in the minority. And that confuses me a lot lmao like when it came out in the manga it was the opposite. People can like whatever they want of course though
@@stalkervalley hahaha
@@videodimension69 the anime ending definitely fixed most of the issues with the manga ending IMO. It's not even really a different ending, they just went about things better, fixed some dialogue, etc. but it seems like it fixed people's perception of it. I've personally always liked the ending and I think it fits pretty well, but I can see why people don't like it. It's definitely the sort of ending that will always be controversial
yea because most of aot fandoms are normies.
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Not a lot of competition mate haha but thank you
I can understand your grievances, but I wholeheartedly disagree with some of the points you made. I wish i had a resources to make a video responding to you but I guess I'll settle for writing a comment.
The hallucinogenia argument is a fair one and I'm not gonna disagree much with that.
YMIR'S LOVE FOR KING FRITZ
Ymir was still a broken girl even after she died, her mind stuck in a loop of slave mentality. I think sometimes people forget Ymir was a child when she was kidnapped, so being a slave is all she knew and obviously her love would be as corrupted as her world view. Her love for king Fritz was nothing more than a Stockholm Syndrome, which is a proposed condition in which hostages develop a psychological bond with their captors as a result of trauma. Such abused victims develop affection when they are shown a bit of appreciation by their captors, making them believe they are "in love" with them as a trauma response. Even slaves back then suffered from such a phenomenon, that's why you always hear some "right wingers" claim Slaves would always fall in love with their masters, as if to justify why slavery wasn't all bad. Even Mikasa tells Ymir that her love was nothing more than a long nightmare, implying that Ymir was mistaking her traumatic experience as "love" to shield herself from accepting her situation. So no, she wasn't really in love with King Fritz in a romantic sense.
MIKASA, EREN & YMIR CONNECTION
Eren and Mikasa played different roles when it comes to Ymir. Eren freed Ymir from her physical chains that caused her to be enslaved to all the royal blood descendents and from the loop of continously doing the bidding of king Fritz even beyond the grave. And Mikasa freed her from her psychological bondage to king Fritz that caused her to mistake servitude for love (Mikasa even tells her what she had wasn't love but a nightmare). It's not an "either or" situation as both things are true at once. Eren was the embodiment of Ymir's thrive for freedom but he was also blinded by his own ideals and obsession to kill everyone, while Mikasa was the embodiment of Ymir's need to break away from her "love" (bongage) from king Fritz, so to ymir Mikasa represented ymir herself, both blinded by the love they have for someone who wants to cause pain to the world (admittedly for different reasons). So she wanted to see if Mikasa would either join Eren in the end and become no different from Ymir herself, or was she going to kill Eren and show Ymir she could've broken away all along (as shown by her "what if" memory at the end when she allowed king Fritz to die). That's the kind of freedom Ymir saw in "Mikasa" vs In "Eren". Both freed her in different ways. In fact, I would argue Afmin also played his role in Ymir, but that's a another conversation.
THE MESSAGE OF THE STORY IS THAT HUMANS WILL ALWAYS FIGHT ANYWAY
- I disagree with this sentiment. Though the ending showed that war returned after 2000 years (judging by the anime), the story doesn't imply that eveything is "pointless" just because "human nature" will always take over. In fact the story preaches an opposite message, that despite the world being bleak and full of death, what matters most is "the appreciation of little things". This message is never more apparent than Armin's talk with Zeke, when he made him realize that people are more than just their birth and death, they live their lives in pleasures and joy they get from spending time with their loved ones, whether that's racing to the top of the tree or the playing catch, all those moments are what makes life worth living, despite the bleakness that surrounds them.
In fact, Erwin's whole speech is all about despite the facts that we live and die doesn't mean our lives are meaningless or that there was no point in us being born. This message is constantly preached in aot, and I would even go as far to say Armin's whole character is a perfect representation of this, his whole characrer is about appreciating the beauty of the world rather than only seeing the ugly of it. So no, I disagree with the sentiment that Aot's message is that nothing matters since humans will always fight each other.
IN THE END TITANS RETURN
This one is the biggest misconception amongst Aot fans. I think people misunderstood so much of the Titan lore to begin with. The titans were originally born because Ymir wanted i quote : "to have a bigger body to make herself strong and to have a body that can't die". Then the Hallucigenia acted as a wish granting device for Ymir to accomplish that dream. So if that kid at the end of the story comes across the Hallucigenia, he/she isn't going to have titan abilities, but they'll have something entirely different born of their own wishes and desires, because the titans was a Ymir's wish and desire to be big, strong and immortal, just as the paths were born out of Ymir's need for connection. You should go visit when Ymir first became a titan and also visit the scene where Zeke explains all this to Armin, cause many people just skipped over so much of that conversation or didn't pay attention to it. So yeah the titans are gone forever, they're definitely not coming back.
Out of all the "ending is bad videos", I honestly think yours was the most genuine and doesn't feel hateful, and because of that I'm gonna subscribe to your channel, cause even though I had my disagreements, your criticism wasn't plagued by "Eren should've impregnated historia and killed all his friends while bathing in the blood of Mikasa" types of arguments. So I appreciate that.
Nice breakdown 🙌. I agree with this.
Got it, here's a revised version keeping your words closer:
"Hey, thanks for your comment. I really appreciate your thorough understanding of my points.
Your opinions are definitely valid.
Honestly, if what you're saying about Ymir is true, and it's the intended message, along with the aspect of appreciating the little things in life, then it might not be as bad as I thought.
But it still doesn't change the fact that Eren started doing everything for someone else, not really for himself.
I just think it's a bit of a waste because Eren was such a good character."
Either way thanks for ur comment and for subscribing (:
@@videodimension69
Thanks for the kind reply I really appreciate it a lot🙏 and I understand where some of you are coming from, I think the ending was great but I also don't think it was flawless, and with Ymir having lack of speech makes it very difficult to discern her characterization, but it also makes for a very interesting visual presentation to interpret (my Lil brother at their high school are even learning about Aot in their literature class if you can believe that. Which I thought was pretty awesome😌)
I see what you mean. I've always seen eren's goals as multifaceted, he did the rumbling for his own idea of freedom, he did it to protect his friends, he did it to bring peace and freedom to the island and he ended up accomplishing that, he did it to prevent the island from being attacked, etc... all those goals are what motivated him to do the rumbling. Sure some goals were selfish and self centered, but eren is a complicated guy with a vortex of emotions. . It's why I loved and appreciated his character. I thought he'd be another cliche of "I went from this good kid, to this edgy badass guy" and I'm glad the story made his character far more complex and nuanced than that. If you have other questions or contentions with the ending, please let me know maybe I might be able to answer.
@@videodimension69 love your Vinland Saga videos by the way. I would love to see more of those especially in regards to the manga. If you want more war, political drama, manga/anime let me know so I can recommend you some.
Ymir never got any affection from King Fritz that she would be considered patient of Stockholm Syndrome. Perhaps everyone forgot that Eren already freed her from the slavery of King Fritz, both physically and mentally, otherwise she would not have listened to him and never started Rumbling. If you want to see example of Stockholm Syndrome, please consider Theon Greyjoy story in books of ASOIAF, which was adapted into television series Game of Thrones, that inspired Isayama quite a lot. Also Mikasa involvement in the later plot is clearly not making sense at all, since she was an Ackerman and her love for Eren was nothing like psychopathy of Ymir Fritz.
Eren was embodiment of Ymir's inner desire to get freedom, but about Mikasa, it's not the same. Since Mikasa was not trying to break away from her love, instead she wanted to share the burden with him and not wanted to separate from him. If it was not peer pressure, Eren would have persuaded Mikasa to join his cause as he manipulated her to kill the robbers in childhood. Ymir was also not judging others, like think it's very funny to mess with everyone life to see if certain chosen person have enough guts to change your heart.
About the message, it is natural that mankind would thrive for violence and seriously Eren failed. The whole point of great minds philosophy that is of Erwin, Armin, and also Zeke is clearly the difference of Absurdism, Existentialism, and Nihilism respectively. Zeke was nihilist as he saw human lives as sin and nothing would change if all die. Erwin was not certain what life really means, at once he considered it all to be meaningless, and in another believed to move forward and accomplish their mission for their dead comrades. Armin was happy in small life they lived by remembering the happy moments and that is what he considered life is. For me all three are correct and that is the beauty of life our consciousness is sensing that we are deriving many meanings of this reality.
About the end that Titan returned, it's all speculation and just theory, like Mikasa remained virgin, Armin was last to visit Eren's grave, because it is not fully confirmed. It instead tying the theme that history repeats and time is spiral.
In conclusion, Ending was okay but author put some random illogical and useless parts just to appease his fans and prevent himself from majority hatred. Afterall, AOT was shonen
Belgium is not real good video though 🇳🇱
I agree
@@stalkervalley same what is a Belgium?
@@videodimension69 South Netherlands?
"For Eren, rather than a lover, Mikasa's presence is more like a mother to him. The love towards a mother is considered valuable [precious], however at the same time, there are annoying parts as well [laugh]," Isayama said this in an interview a year after chapter 50 where the scarf scene happens when Hannes dies only to Retcon it in the last episode 😂
Damn.. honestly he could have taken it so many places why did bro choose this?
Meh I loved the ending.
idgaf AOT is a weak anime by a weak mangaka. The message is so edgy and spineless, just like Eren. AOT is a story written by a loser for losers. Imagine writing a story where the message is that people should just keep on murdering and fighting because war always happens. AOT had the potential to be a masterpiece but now it does not even come close to the top tier of mangas like Berserk, Vinland Saga or Vagabond.
The message was indeed quite horrible. But I honestly think that wasn't even supposed to be the message throughout the story.
There were multiple messages and themes but Isayama just seemed to one wrap a bow around it with one final big message. One that just absolutely doesn't work and ruins previous things in the story.
Then again I still love attack on Titan for what it was you know. A good 80% of it is still one of my favorite stories ever.
@@videodimension69 100%. It's not that I didn't enjoy the show, I just fundamentally disagree with it. Also the mangakas references to japanese nationalism and nazism are very very weird in a story where the MC commits genocide and gets nothing but sympathy by his friends for it
ill be real, i have no idea why you think that the message of the story is that "people should just keep on murdering and fighting because war always happens" or that "message is so edgy and spineless, just like Eren" or that there are "references to japanese nationalism and nazism [which are] are very very weird in a story where the MC commits genocide and gets nothing but sympathy by his friends for it". these all seem like very warped/inaccurate representations of the messages of the story.
@@Epsilonn Generally the themes of aot very often include hopelessness. Like the idea that eren had no choice in his actions or the scene where Erwin storms into death with his soldiers or, the fact that after everything happened, wars still seem to be common place.
I just read that as the author being edgy and indulging in doomerism. It's totally fine to be a little "emo" when you're a teenager but somewhere along the way being overly nihilistic and pessimistic just turns into self pity and cowardice, hence why those themes of the show are cowardly and spineless in my opinion. Add in the fact that the only character who truly "fights" against this doomerism, is Armin who then at the very end learns to conform and to accept those ideas of nihilism as well, as if the author was saying that even Armin had to accept that human evil is a constant that cannot be changed.
I won't get into the references to japanese fascism and naziism, but it's very clear that the author, at the very least, has a deep interest in fascist history and does not shy away from portraying characters who are inspired by fascist figures in a sympathetic way, such as Erwin.
Considering all those points and the fact that there's genuinely very little pushback from the characters after eren killed 80% OF HUMANITY, I can easily say that attack on titan is a spineless, possibly fascist story by a weak author.
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil i interpret the hopelessness in certain parts of the story as a natural continuation of conflict/violence/war. like honestly the situation that paradis is put in when compared to the rest of the world is pretty darn hopeless, and yet they fight for their freedom regardless. i also factor in that the first 3 seasons of the show arent really very philosophical or political, I think those themes only really come to the forefront in season 4 (after everybody's perspective is changed through realising that its not humanity vs titans, its instead humanity vs humanity, which i think significantly changes the tide of the story), so i personlly dont compare the themes of the first 3 seasons to the themes of season 4.
i would agree that the story is very "doomerist" if the ending was more depressing, ie the alliance fails and eren destroys the world or something, but that isnt what happens. i actually think the ending is quite optimistic, because although it is realistic in that we are not currently in a position where we can reach eternal peace as a species (resulting in paradis being destroyed in the future), the story highlights our capacity to at least strive towards peace, like the alliance do, and constantly achieve longer and longer periods of peace (like what happens at the end of the show). this is what we should be aiming to do irl too imo
i also think that, if anything, fascism is used as a way to illustrate different parts of humanity, as a way to dissect the human condition in the story, along with many other things. i dont think isayama was intending to convey or push a specific political outlook with his story. he simply wishes to use certain political outlooks as a commentary on humanity
Soo for 2000 years..ymir was waiting for someone to free her from Stockholm syndrome??🥲🙌
Idk man never understood that girl
It was completely random bro, suddenly hit in the end to conclude the story to satisfy Mikasa's fans by bringing rom com ending. Ymir x King Fritz is not even Stockholm Syndrome, and Ymir was already freed when Eren commanded her.
@@jaipandey7142 i know but the show wants to tell us that and I find it so strange she loved him after all he did to her......
its not stolkholm syndrome for heaven's sake
you dont even understand her character to begin with
why did ymir stopped at king frtiz wedding where he kissed the bride?
king fritz even though was horrible gave her daughters which she truely loved lol
it was not only mikasa who freed her thats bullshit
because first you need a desire to be free which eren gave her when she told that she is a person and can decide for herself
@@AM17titan you didn't see that I was being sarcastic😒as much as I feel bad for her,I still felt she would have ended Fritz easily.and mikasa never freed her I KNOW.they Want us to think mikasa is ymir as eren is king Fritz that's why I questioned is it quote Stockholm??