A Brief History - A Brief History Of The War Doctor - Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2019
- It’s time to kick off a new series! Sometimes with all the different and expanded medias, it can be hard to known how everything all fits together!
So I present to you “A Brief History”, a new series looking at the chronology of different things within the Doctor Who Universe! Starting with The War Doctor
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I'm sad we can't get more live action War Doctor...
It is a real shame we won't ever get more of him on screen or in Big Finish (atleast played by Hurt himself) but both Dan Starkey (Strax) and Nicholas Briggs do fantastic War Doctor impressions so hopefully he will make a comeback in Short Trips form perhaps.
@@CaptainJimiPie Something drastic they could do is to find a roughly younger actor to play a younger war doctor maybe?
They COULD but it's doubtful they would and I think most fans (myself included) would prefer they left it too, it's better to be left wanting more than giving people more and leaving them disappointed
@@CaptainJimiPie They got q dude in to do young war doctor for Big finish
The above comment was written long before that but they have indeed, Jonathan Carley is his name and having heard previews of his work on the new stories I'm very impressed, so I'm certainly looking forward to it!
God bless Sir John Hurt
Yes indeed, it's a shame he never got to do more on the show or with Big Finish but what we did get is absolutely fantastic!
This is a really great and informative essay on one of the mysterious War Doctor. I would loved to have seen more of this Doctor earlier in this incarnation. It's such a shame that we'll more than likely wouldn't see the warrior again unless it's in comics or even more unlikely recasting.
Thanks, and personally I hope they don't recast, simply because you can't replace John Hurt, however I think he'll certainly appear in books and comics in future, and it's always possible that Big Finish may do some more short trips with him as Nicholas Briggs does a fantastic War Doctor impression
Turns out we're getting early-war stories with an impressionist
I'd like to think that, had he still been alive, Sir John would have appeared as one of the guardians of the edge from The Power of the Doctor.
Sir John Hurt you'll be missed
He shall indeed, but his legacy will live on forever
My head hurts
It is a lot of information to take in haha just imagine how I felt having to make this
Buffy Scarlette hurt.
JOHN HURT
imagine we had something like star wars the clone wars for doctor who where it covered the war doctors battles etc.
Well Big Finish already partly did that with their series as has other expanded media & comics, personally however I like that much of his era is still unknown as it means there's always room to add in more, plus it just wouldn't be the same without John Hurt playing the role, at least for me
Thank you for the countless hour it took to compile all this information.
Awesome breakdown for someone, like me, who hasn't gotten into Hurt's pile of books/Big Finish/etc.
Thank you, it did take quite a while but worth it!
Awesome. I wonder if we will have a brief history on Jacobi's Master.
Thanks, and yes I am planning on doing one for him as part of this series in future
His Master is so horrifying. Truly and utterly horrific.
Edit: He genuinely scares me.
Nicely done really great work ...... cant wait for the next video
Thanks!
*_IMPORTANT NOTE : Please read before commenting_*
UPDATES to The War Doctor's timeline since this video was made :
*. The short story Decoy from the Target Storybook : taking place between Four Doctors & Big Finish's Agent Of Chaos series*
Features Rassilon using an Auton clone of The War Doctor to lead a TimeLord armada into a Dalek Ambush. Enraged by this The REAL War Doctor "reprograms his clone" to have the TimeLord armada retreat from The Daleks, and then sends a SECOND clone to Gallifrey to berate Rassilon for his actions whilst The REAL War Doctor breaks into Rassilon's Armoury to steal weapons, before luring the Dalek ships into a trap which destroys them.
*. The poem The Red & the Blue, from Now We Are Six Hundred :*
Plot currently unknown as I have yet to buy this book, but the poem is based on A.A. Milne's poem from Now We Are Sixth titled The Dormouse & The Doctor
*. Regenerations - War Doctor Anthology book:*
The exact placement of the stories in this anthology are currently unknown
*. Big Finish’s - The War Doctor Begins:*
Until these are released we won’t know exactly where they come in but given the title they will likely be early in his life
*Note about video length & title*
Recently I've noticed quite a few comments making comparisons between this video being called A BRIEF History and yet it's over 27 minutes in length, so if you're bothered by the length of this video then please remember not one is making you watch it.
The point of A Brief History is to provide a relatively short but comprehensive history of elements of the Doctor Who universe, that could potentially take people days or weeks to watch/listen/read through, especially when it comes to things like comics/books/Big Finish which not everyone has easy access too.
As such 20+ minutes IS a brief amount of time in comparison and I'm sorry if some people don't have attentions spans long enough to just enjoy the video for what it is
I just thought it was a play on words in relation to that Hawkin's film
That's kinda what I was going for however I was more referencing his original 1988 book, and yet no one seems to be complaining about Stephen Hawking cramming more to less the entire history of time into a 5000+ words, 256 page book which would take an average person about 3-4 hours to read, and then saying "that's not brief"
'Media' is plural of 'medium'. 'Medias' is like saying Mediumseses and that's Golum territory right there.
Does it really matter? Whether I use the correct terms or not it's still clear what I mean
R.I.P. John Hurt👨🔥✨
Indeed, he is greatly missed!
Great video man!
Thanks
It's impressive to have 13 doctors be set up for the day of the doctor to save Gallifrey since 6 and 7.
I'm not sure where you got The Sixth & Seventh Doctor's being the beginning? As the episode establishes The First Doctor started the calculations and then all others continued them until the final calculations were gained by The Twelfth Doctor
There are still so many Doctor Who stories I do not know yet
Well with such a large expanded universe there is a lot to know! Even I'm always finding out new things as I research my videos
Nicely Explained (Even if my Mind was warped a few times)
Thanks, I tried to keep it as straight forward as possible but with so much information it's not always the easiest thing to understand haha
It's about time I subscribe to your channel. There, done. You know have a new French follower!
Thanks! I hope you enjoyed the first in this new series and if you liked this one be sure to check out my Did You Know...? series which inspired it!
EXCELLENT!!!
Thanks!
These stories sound really good. I would take any one of these over the current episodes (S12)
Personally I think the Series 12 has had some of the best (and worst) episodes we've seen, but the War Doctor's stories are well worth checking ut
Hi Mate nice video i was just wondering how many parts are there altogether.
Thank and so far this is the first video in this so only the one overall, however as mentioned at the start of this video the reason for there being different parts is so I can update it when new information is revealed.
At present time this video chronicles The War Doctors full known timeline however as newer information comes out, I will be updating this video with a pinned comment to include it until such a time I have enough information to make a Part 2 about The War Doctor
Is one of the comics mentioned definitely called “petals “ ??because i cant find it.
Yes, it was printed in Doctor Who Adventures Magazine Issue #15 - 2016, but at the time of writing that is the only place it's been printed, so unless you have a copy of the magazine or can find it online then it hasn't been released anywhere else
Amazing video! What doctor are you planing to do next?
Thank you, and you'll just have to wait and see! Plus this series isn't just going to be limited to The Doctor, as I said in the video it will also cover other, peoples/monsters/events and more!
@@CaptainJimiPie Cool! Personally I would love you to do the 8th Doctor but it's just a choice!
Thanks, and I am planning to do each Doctor as part of this series but obviously amount of narrative history they have, plus with it being ever updated through Big Finish, I am planning those one very carefully, so it might be a while before I do another Doctor
Could use a little more clarification but its interesting, gives bit more insight I was looking for
Well the point of this was to provide a relatively comprehensive history in comparatively short amount of time but also not to give away TOO many spoilers so it still encourages people to go out and watch/read/listen to the stories themselves...but as long as it provides insight then my work is done!
You should do a brief history of Season 6b
I'll be doing that when I cover The Second Doctor
Have there been any brief cameos or any more appearances of the War Doctor since?
As mentioned, check the pinned comment for updated appearances, until I get around to doing Part 2
Nice brief history video... I do like history video's even though this was almost a year ago...
Thanks, I have done others since then
@@CaptainJimiPie Np i'll go and check it out
No worries
I really need to listen to the Big Finish War Doctor stories
They are well worth listening to!
Are you going to do a part 2 to this video
I will be doing a part 2 of this but I don't know exactly when yet
Have you considered doing timings on incarnations of the doctors?
Sorry, what do you mean by timings?
@@CaptainJimiPie sorry auto correct I was asking have you considered doing incarnations of the doctor?
Ah ok, I probably will at some point but I'm focusing on doing individual things at the moment, just because it makes it easier
Damn it sucks that most of the war doctor was mainly audio and graphic novels. Seeing the full war live action would of been awesome!
It certainly would, but I really wouldn't under estimate the War Doctor audios and expanded novels/comics, they keep the character alive wonderfully.
Jonathan Carley's Young War Doctor is particularly fantastic!
@CaptainJimiPie oh im not gonna under estimate it, im sure they are some pretty damn good stories. I just haven't jumped into any of the audios yet. I might have to now though. The war doctor was one of the doctors I was most curious about.
They are well worth checking out!
what is the blue dalek behind you? its unfamiliar to me, but the way its framed to almost counterpart the supreme dalek strikes me
Thanks and it's a custom 18" New Series Time Controller I made
This is insanity. Very hard to wrap one's head around. But what's clear is the war doctor's war was one of both conventional combat, and unconventional. Time and space wars are quite the mess it seems. And this is why i have the theory that humans will never actually figure out time travel. Imagine if we did, all the things we could totally flub up. We're locked in place as far as time goes for a reason.
There is a lot to take in which is why I've tried to lay it out as clearly as possible but it is very complicated. As for time travel, (that's kinda my thing science wise), and given that it's theoretically possible then I think when technology catches up one day we will be able to do it, however there will also be potential limitations to travelling into the past
For example the telephone theory that we will only be able to travel back to the point of the creation of the first time machine as they will need to communicate with each other to work properly, or if you believe in universal sentience then it's possible that the universe itself could stop us interfering.
But there's also the possibility that our current universe is the production of someones meddling in history and that's why we don't have time travel...rather like the universe the possibilities are endless
The war doctor series is probably ended
Not necessarily, the death of John Hurt means obviously he won't be in the TV series again (with the exception of archive footage) and Big Finish won't do another full cast War Doctor series, but it's possible they may do short trips featuring his Doctor, with Nicholas Briggs doing his fantastic impression, and the character is still very much alive in comic/novel form.
Wow
Thanks
I thought the War Doctor was a Pre-Harnell version.
Not sure where you got that impression from, we see The Eighth Doctor regenerate into him in Night Of The Doctor & then at the end of Day Of The Doctor he begins to regenerate into The Ninth Doctor
@@CaptainJimiPie I got impression since he went in fight in War On Gallifrey. I thought that took place before Harnell.
No, as I said not where you're sure you got that impression from
CaptainJimiPie the Ruth Doctor?
History of season 6b? Or whatever is the era after war games and before spearhead from space called
I'll probably cover that under The Second Doctor video when I do it
@@CaptainJimiPie i'm looking foreward to it
Thanks
Can someone tex me all the comic name's please
If you mean the ones chronicling the War Doctor & The Master then it was separated out across several issues, however the comics have all been printed in The Eleventh Doctor : Year Two Collected Editions titled, The Then & The Now, The One & The Malignant Truth
Thanks
No worries
"Brief History"- 27 minutes long- part 1....
That's because Part 1 is simply chronicling ALL of The War Doctors life up the point of recording as it was easier just to do one initial video on it and then update it at a later date when more information comes out with a Part 2
Plus given the original cut of this video with more clips and audio snippets was running at over an 1h 20minutes, and if you actually watched/read/listening to the entire War Doctor history across the various media it would take days, I think trimming it down to 27 minutes is actually pretty brief in comparison.
*Brief*
I don't understand what you mean? If you're correcting me somewhere then I can't see where I've made any spelling errors on that word?
Nah mate. Just joking around about the videos length . It’s a great video.
Ah ok, I'm with you now haha I did consider trimming this video down into several parts, but as The War Doctor's history thus far doesn't actually encompass all that much, it just felt easier to do this as one video and then subsequent parts will just be updated/new information.
Originally I was going to go into more detail about the plots and subjects of stories, but I realised that would end up with a video running up to 3-4 hours long, so compared to that this is brief haha
Where’s part 2?
There isn't a Part 2 yet, simply because as I said in this video, this part encompasses all appearances of The War Doctor at present time. So until he makes more appearances and there is enough content to make another video this is the only Part for him
CaptainJimiPie ok thank you 👍🏻
No worries
@@CaptainJimiPie With the audios The War Doctor Begins starring Jonathon Carley, will it be possible to do a Part.2 of this video when all 4 boxsets comes out?
@@jaytender4949 Yes, those are primarily what I'm wait for to be released before making a Part 2
But the comics aren't cannon, are they?
Yes they are, or at least they're no more or less canon than expanded media novels or audios like Big Finish, personally I accept them as canon as there's nothing in them to suggest otherwise as it fill in otherwise empty narrative gaps
@@CaptainJimiPie Thanks for the elaboration, it's just normally, when there's a couple sets of graphic novels created for a series, they aren't canon, but the audios are a much bigger thing, so i didn't assume the same for them.
No worries, as I said I think it's down to individual interpretation really but given how much awesome stuff happens in the comics it would be a shame if they were non-canon!
So does the war doctor directly murder anyone in these stories or what?
That all depends on how you define murder to be honest, I'd recommend checking them out though
CaptainJimiPie so far i’ve read the third wise man which was a bad ass story but it was mor of the war doctor looking in in awe if how stupendously Murderous it was than fighting it.
Well as I said I'd recommend checking out all the other stories of his too
So the first up to the eighth doctor hadn’t fought in the time war? Had the time war happened by the time the first doctor left gallifrey or did it only start towards the end Of the classic series? I don’t know if that sounds like a stupid question, it’s just always confused me
The Eighth Doctor didn't "fight" in the time war, but by his own admission that's because instead he chose to "help where he could".
As for when the Time War began it's a bit of a subjective question, it didn't START during the classic series but events of it may have been present at that time, due to it being a TIME War.
I will be covering it in a future A Brief History, but in short linearly in went on for 400 years, starting sometime prior to The Eighth Doctor's regeneration into the War Doctor but AFTER the end of the classic series.
However as The Time War was fought through all of time & space, it equally went on for an eternity and some of the "first shots" of the Time War (such as the events of Genesis of the Daleks) were known to have happened during the classic series.
Genesis of the daleks is the origin
No it's not, not entirely anyway, the events of Genesis Of The Daleks was one of the "first shots" in the Time War however it is generally not considered the event which caused it/started it as a full scale war.
Due to it being a Time War with multiple timelines being created and destroyed it's actually had several different origins points, some where it was started by The TimeLord's, others by The Daleks, and either side would always claim the other side started it.
yeah but what about Theta Sigma.?
What about Theta Sigma? Technically that's The First Doctor and I'll be covering him in a future video
"a brief history" 30min video, and it's a part one xDD
I've addressed that already in the pinned comment
@@CaptainJimiPie I know :P
I just find funny that a "brief history" is a 30 min long video, didn't expect that when I clicked on it. :D
Have a nice day man and thanks for awsome video and a reply :)
No worries and thanks!
I bet the War Doctor is fighting in heaven
Well as far as the in-universe explanation goes, when a TimeLord current incarnation dies, their consciousness still dwells within the TimeLord themselves and also within the Matrix, and The War Doctor was seen in The Doctor's time stream in Name Of The Doctor as well.
@@CaptainJimiPie actually meaning the actor who played him
Ah ok, because you said The War Doctor I thought you mean in-universe rathe than John Hurt, but I'd imagine he's taking a well earned rest! Especially after all the things he's done!
what is it with the war dr and wepons ,erasing things from time, timeline weirdness
Well that's pretty much just the Time War in a nutshell, even though linearly it only lasted 400 years, it technically went on for an eternity across all of time & space, with realties being destroyed/created/re-written on a whim by those involved
Music is too loud.
The music is equalised to my voice over, raising and lowering it accordingly and then then overall music track is also lowered, so if it's coming out too loud for you I'd say that's a problem your end.
@@CaptainJimiPie that's funny since recently went deaf in one ear.
Then I’d hazard a guess that’s the root of the sound problem
I kinda hated the war Dr mainly because he screwed up the number of drs. 10 is 11. 11 is 12. 12 is 13. And so on.
It's not that difficult to understand, if anything made it more difficult it was the Tenth Doctor Meta-Crisis regeneration, but I have done a video on this explaining how it all works
th-cam.com/video/qGNHu5RJwmw/w-d-xo.html
Too long an intro.... Ahhhh
Well there is a reason you can skip ahead on TH-cam, and the spoiler warning is there for obvious reasons
@@CaptainJimiPie I'm not complaining about spoilers. What does that have to do with anything?
Well usually when most people go on about the intro being too long, it's the spoiler warning
@@CaptainJimiPie I actually like your spoiler edit.
Ok....then I'm a bit confused by what you mean by too long an intro?
Why is a women voicing the 1st doctor
Because that particular story (The Plague Of Dreams) is narrated as if Polly and Ben are retelling the story from their perspectives.