Grand Admiral Thrawn | Star Wars Legends
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- The New Republic was convinced the remnants of the Empire were not a serious threat, until one man launched a brilliant campaign that changed the galaxy forever and enshrined the name of "Thrawn" into legend.
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“To defeat an enemy, you must get to _know_ them. Not just their weapons and battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, _art."_
Jimmy Seaver
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Jean-Luc Martel
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"A great tactician creates plans.
A good tactician, recognizes the soundness of a plan presented to him. A fair tactician must see the plan succeed before offering approval." ~ *Grand Admiral Thrawn* ~
Beautifully edited video and summary of Grand Admiral Thrawn's life from Legends. Plus that pronunciation of his full Chiss name was beyond impressive XD
Thank ya kindly good sir! We'll have to team up on something at somepoint at sometime!
+The Templin Institute Absolutely we should!
+NRI Media Thank you!
That would be awesome to see Lore Master and Templin Institute team up
The Templin Institute
Can you do a video on Anakin Skywalker Canon or Legends?
“I am a warrior, Your Majesty. A warrior may retreat. He does not flee. He may lie in ambush. He does not hide. He may experience victory or defeat. He does not cease to serve.”
-- Mitth'raw'nuruodo, “Star Wars: Thrawn”, Chapter 3 (2017) by Timothy Zahn
First time I’ve seen his name spelled and now I get why no one can pronounce it
@@andrewmichael9201read the (old) Thrawn trilogy, the books are awesome!
If there is one man worthy to claim the emperor's throne after Palpatine and Vader died, it is Thrawn.
iono, i could be mistaken... but he wasn't aiming for emperor? I'm pretty sure he had concerns and actually disliked MANY things the Empire was doing, but his logic dictated that they had purpose as well as capability. when you also bring in the fact that he was semi protecting his species and culture, you can almost think of him as a loyal but rogue knight. even once his lord had fallen, he still stood for his oath and purpose.
@@vissermatt1058 noticed he said worthy.
I could see Thrawn changing the Empire to allow non humans in the ranks. Seeing as the Empire was a tool to keep the galaxy together similar to Tito in the former Yugoslavia.
"But it was so artistically done."
Erndem Sterff Prederctions too bad that was cut. RIP.
Classic last words
Which odd occurrences?
@@7erikgiles considering thrawn never resurfaced even when the yuzahn vong arrived he died on that bridge. How artistic that despite his egalitarian views his continuation of Darth Vader's policy of oppressing the noghiri is what led to his defeat.
Bezerker21 technically he never opressed the noghiri. The noghiri were given to him and all he did was have them be bodyguards with rukh being one of his most trusted officers alongside pellaeon.
Thrawn's fault was not truly learning or comprehending the noghiri's hatred
"a grand plan to prepare the galaxy for the Yuuzhan Vong?"
"the safeguarding of his people?"
"or just another opertunistic warlord?"
Me- why not all of the above?
Grand Admiral Thrawn, the most badass Commander of the empire.
Thrawn is the Caesar of Star Wars, he was a great tactician, but was later liked by an former ally
Agreed, probs the only person in Legends Timeline who could've rebuilt the Empire to its FULL Glory
@@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337 it would have reached new heights under thrawn the failing of palpatine and the sith would have been washed away
I am going to assume your autocorrect changed killed to liked.
Nah nah nah. Caesar got a decent start.
THRAWN WAS AURALIANVS BVT BLVE. Even stabbed while campaigning in his HQ...
Maybe like Napoleon or Alexander the great
Thrawn is one of those great fictional characters that doesn't just feel like a compelling real person, but stands as an avatar of some philosophy and ideal which truly sets the mind awander. I look forward to what else the Templin Institute makes videos on
10th man rule Israel
@@Lukeclout What
@@DogeickBateman It’s a doctrine. Always consider alternative narratives, options and methodologies. It’s what effective people(like Thrawn) in real life does.
@@Lukeclout Ah now I know what you're talking about. Heard it was devised in response to the 1973 War after intelligence failed on that one.
@@DogeickBateman It was. In real life to achieve military success akin to that of Thrawn, it’s not usually just 1 smart person/leader. But a group of dynamic leaders operating in a disciplined yet highly flexible team. Israeli intelligence / IDF did pioneer such methodologies.
THIS is my Thrawn...
Let me get this straight... The Rebellion spends years performing hit-and-run attacks on the Empire keeping them off balance slowly gaining strength until the Empire fell, and then Thrawn takes his 6 Star Destroyers and performing hit-and-run attacks on the Republic keeping them off balance and gaining more strength. Huh, good ol' Thrawn giving the enemy a taste of their own medicine.
And with the stab to the chest, Nelson much? Except Nelson won in the end, but he died.
Problem was the creators of Thrawn realized they literally made a true anti-hero who despite worked for the Empire was a respectable, well popular and extremely efficient officer who actually was a shining example of what the Empire promoted it was supposed to be.
Thrawn was intelligent, respectful, a real soldier and officer, he was SW Rommell and literally by his own hand nearly defeated utterly the New Republic by strategy and cunning. If he took control he likely would have been loved by both Imperial citizens and the newly re-absorbed new republic citizens. That's why the writers offed him or terminated his character shield. He became too powerful of a character that he threatened Jedi and Sith Characters who were supposed to be near demi-gods and here a Imperial officer who was near human with no Force powers was curb-stomping everyone and he had less resources to work with.
Those 6 ISD's weren't the only vessels available to Thrawn.
In the novel "Dark Force Rising", Thrawn come's into possession of the Katana fleet. Which consist of 200 pre-Clone wars Dreadnought's, whose exact position had remained unknown until then. The New Republic managed to capture 15 of those ships, but Thrawn has already escaped with the rest.
But he's already at war with the New Republic, so how will he find enough crew member's to man all these ships?
The answer: Emperor Palpatine's underground cloning facility on the planet of Wayland.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Timothy Zahn is the sole writer of Thrawn's legacy, not counting beta readers and grammar checkers. He did acknowledge that Thrawn had grown too powerful in the context of the story, especially considering his only weakness has always been politics. So him dying was the only way they could stop him from steam rolling the entire New Republic, and becoming the new head honcho of the franchise.
The Rebels were designed with fighting large enemy armies in mind, they were not designed to fight hit-and-run foes. Thrawn was a genius in that regard.
@@electricfeverx976 damn even the author is afraid of him. Imagine how stable the Empire would be if he knows politics also.
FINALLY A VIDEO ABOUT THRAWN!
Matteo Kropej
I know right it's awesome
Jean-Luc Martel
Indeed
There are dozens of Thrawn videos on every Star Wars channel. If he so important, they should put him in an actual movie instead of a disney cartoon.
PathsUnwritten Star Wars Rebels is canon and as important as any film in the canon. I would love to see Thrawn in a live action film though. I’ve been thinking about if there is a way to bring him into episode 9. It probably won’t happen but maybe he will get a Star Wars Story movie.
wesrm1 I’m right with you that he’s canon. However, I wish that if he’s so extremely important that every Star Wars TH-cam channel has so many dedicated videos, they should do more than an occasional cartoon appearance. Most people interested in Star Wars will only watch the movies and have no idea who all these videos are talking about.
If the Empire was led by Thrawn from the get-go, I'll have troubles trying to decide who would I cheer for.
Most likly the rebelion wouldbt happen at all, cause thrawn isnt a tyrant
If the Empire had been led by Thrawn from the get-go, he would have destroyed the rebellion before it ever really got started! Imagine if he had been force sensitive?
If Thrawn led the Empire racism would have almost disappeared given Thrawn himself is a near human alien. He probably would have it as a authoritarian government perhaps similar to the GTU, if anything that's exactly the type of government he would approve of. Rebellions would be more difficult to rise up if people are comfortable and safe with a future to look forward to even if the government they are in is a little strict but not a overbearing monster. Any Rebellion that did rise up likely would have been crushed long before becoming a major threat and Thrawn likely would have used less violent means to subduing a rebellion if possible knowing violent action could create more. Education likely would be valued especially so. I can Imagine Thrawn pushing the arts and promotion of better work enviorments :P
@@Sealhunt If he where force sensitive, that would be an obstacle for him. The Force is never neutral. It allways trys to tip to one side. As a Sith, Thrawn would be to brutal to be a good tactican. As a Jedi, he would care to much for his troops.
The only mistake he made was, that he didn´t gave the Noghri the means to rebuild there planet. If he would have done that - maybe by telling them, that this new gear is better - they would have never betrayed him. Even if Laia landed there as she did, they would have stayed loyal since Tharwn gave them the means to rebuild there planet. I never understood why he did not do that.
Had Thrawn run the Empire from the start, the rebellion won’t even be necessary.
I remember reading the Thrawn trilogy a few years back and loving it. Thrawn was a great antagonist that more recent stories have had a hard time living up to.
What I think is unique about Thrawn though is that while Star Wars, both legends and new canon, is rampant with threat escalation (The Empire had a moon sized planet killer? Well now the First Order has a Planet sized system destroyer!), Thrawn was in many ways a de-escalation. He didn't have any special superweapons or a giant fleet from nowhere, and was in many ways a dark mirror of the Rebellion, resource deprived and fighting a far larger opponent, but making up for his shortcomings with better strategies and daring plans.
Hopefully they can bring some of that back in the new canon. That Timothy Zhan has been given back control of Thrawn gives me hope, but beyond that I hope that Star Wars in general moves down a path that doesn't try to copy the past, only bigger, but instead focuses on compelling characters with well-explained motivations.
Sadly that's not the path canon is going down.
Canon Thrawn is amazing
I think he is more closely analogous to Hannibal. Both were genius commander who were ultimately fighting for the losing side and dying empires, but were still able to achieve crushing victories against numerically superior opponents, while still losing the war.
Or more like Napoleon. Someone rising against all odds out of left field, in a time where the ancien regime has been crushed, to reestablish a new one.
Well said! Thrawn is the single best Star Wars character, and very high on the list of best characters of all time.
Thrawn: In summary, a man of knowledge, tactics, and warfare, and yet a man that could understand and respect a culture's art, history, and beliefs. I personally believe Thrawn was trying to help strengthen the Galaxy for the Yuuzhan Vong, albeit under his rule.
If someone like thrawn was emperor you know that the rebellion wouldn't have formed. He was be pragmatic enough not to put the boot as hard, open enough to tell the population why, and respectful enough to keep the more vocal dissents from going full on rebel.
"It was so artistically done" such an interesting villain in star wars.
Now this is something I’ve been waiting for for a long... long time.
Was it artfully done?
Wait, are you legends Thrawn or Canon Thrawn?
Pyroskies I prefer to represent both.
I can't explain just how happy I am that you used legends rather than Cannon. Thank you so much...
Same here.
Thrawn's canon legacy has only just begun.... if we know his fate after Rebels season 4's finale.
SK Au Yeong doesnt matter. The thrawn introduced in rebels is just ridiculously inferior to the legends version
There is hope, he was mentioned in the Mandalorian so it is possible that he may not have been idle after his disappearance in season 4 of rebels
I recommend you all read the Thrawn Canon Novels.
The trouble with Thrawn as a character, is that there is no way to beat him that will be satisfactory to an audience. He's presented as such a brilliant commander that there is no one who can match him and he's such a great leader that he lacks pretty much all the flaws that typify Imperial Commanders (IE Arrogance, sadism, megalomania ect). In the end, the only reason Thrawn loses in legends, is because a Dog-Man stabs him and in Cannon, because Space Squid-Whales come out of no where.
As much as we all love Thrawn, the fact he's a villain means that story demands that he fail, but there is just no way to have him fail that won't seem horribly contrived.
weldonwin
But. It was so artfully done.
At least in legends. I'm no legends lover. I'm a new canon guy but that was how to beat Thrawn. I do hope a more mature show comes after rebels from Filino surrounding the new arcs set up in the finale. We can hope
Well in Rebels Thrawn have clear blindside when it comes to the force. He himself admitted that he can't understand it. It's not so much the fact that the space whales came from nowhere, as that Ezra could see the future and make planes so outside the box, that relay on elements that anyone other than Ezra can never control for, that Thrawn had no chance to see it coming. Ezra downright outwitted Thrawn!
Actually, its very simple to beat Thrawn despite his superior tactics. You see, he can't be everywhere and everyone at once. If one of his subordinates is incompetent, reckless, or gullible at the wrong moment and place, that person can be the weak point in his plan. You can plan for all sorts of variables, but you can't counter every possible failure of those you command. Not with a talent pool as worthless as the Empire.
in legends thrawn lost due to too many events happening at once for him to deal with and that he lacked crucial information which left him vulnerable to being betrayed by his bodyboard,
Thrawn's weakness is the unpredictable and that which he cannot understand. In canon that weakness translates to the force, which is why the Bendu was great, as the Bendu was an unpredictable factor. In legends Thrawn had no inkling of the Noghri movement against the empire, which was a blindside, as he relied upon the Noghri to help build his empire. Furthermore, in legends the force could not be used against him as he had tools, such as the Ysalamiri to counteract the force. In traditional and normal terms, Thrawn has no weakness, but when something unpredictable or unlikely occurs, Thrawn's plans can.be foiled.
Excellently done dossier on Grand Admiral Thrawn. But then, I’ve come to expect that from the Templin Institute.
A dossier on Warhammer 40K’s Emperor of Mankind would be very interesting. Halo’s Master Chief, Dune’s Paul Atreides, G1 Optimus Prime, DC’s Darkseid, and Lara Croft might also be good subjects.
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God Emperor and Paul Atreides for sure.
omg if they do the 40k Emperor of Mankind it would be so awesome
How does this channel only have 81k subscribers
The quality is top notch
81k is pretty good for a 5 month-old.
They've grown really fast. A few months ago the channel didn't even exist. I remember subbing right after the channel was created and had less than 1000 subs.
Yeah, they’re only a few months old, but are growing quite rapidly. Lore channels have started to take off. Spacedock, Eckhart’s Ladder, Lore Reloaded, Star Wars Explained- there’s proven to be a massive audience for them. We’re at a point in fandom history where the information is as prevalant as it is readily accessible, and these videos are perfect for both introducing people to a series (when my mother began looking into Stranger Things, the first thing I did was show her the Institute’s video on Hawkins Nat’l Laborotory), and for brushing up, either because the franchise you like is making new content, or maybe just to keep your memory freshed.
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I may not be familiar with his Legends stuff, but in Rebels and the recent novel Thrawn is just fantastic. He's quickly become one of my favorite Star Wars villains.
Say, for characters such as Thrawn that exist in multiple continuities (in this case both Legends and Disney canon), would you guys ever consider doing multiple Dossier episodes examining the different versions? It'd be an interesting opportunity to compare and contrast.
Considerign Thrawn i still alive after the Rebels finale, hist canon story isnt done yet and a lot fo the details of his past, like how he met Anakin durign the Clone Wars is still not covered so makign a canon version woudltn make much sense right now.
mplumley95 Bro you got to read the orginal Thrawn trilogy. It is amazing.
LordDarthHarry Doesn't mean they can't do it later once more material with Thrawn comes out.
King Jon Starkgeryan Filed away under "stuff I need to watch/read because everyone says it's amazing but I haven't seen/read it for some reason." Right next to Firefly and Lord of the Rings in the spot where Ghostbusters used to be.
dude wtf who hasn't seen/read LotR in this day and age
The enemy to brilliant and complex to be in a Disney movie
Travis Wald now being replaced by total knucklehead and incompetent wannabe known as first order 😂😂
To be fair they did put him in star wars rebels and he was pretty damn good
@@mezarisage6055 still humiliated by a brat
Wouldn't it be great that instead of force hologram Luke it was Thrawn and his imperial faction who came and aided the Resistance at Crait? And the last shot would be the remaining Resistance looking through a window aboard a stardestroyer, their fate still unknown kinda like the ending of ESB.
@@mezarisage6055 read the novels, he wasn't a joke or a stone cold killer in that. Hell the dude even forgave, and got some cadets who ambushed and tried to assault him a promotion without them knowing it was him. He wasn't the kind of guy who would bombard a city or blow up a civilian to make a point, he was a honourable and fair warrior who only killed with purpose, and avoided bloodshed when possible.
Thanks for this great video.
Grandadmiral Mitth'raw'nuruodo you deserved it sir *salutes*
Thrawn and Revan, both genius level military strategists, both betrayed by those close to them. How do these smart bois not see it coming?
My enemy are many, my equal are none.
In the presence of Emperor Palpatine and Lord Vader, they say the Unknown Region could never be conquere.
In the Hall of Moffs and Generals, they say the New Republic could never be humble.
In the Heart of the Senate on Coruscant, they say Admiral Ackbar fleet could never be tame.
Now they say nothing, they fear me like a force of nature. A dealer in thunder and death.
I say I am Mitth'raw'nuruodo, I am Grand Admiral.
- Grand Admiral Thrwan on board of the Chimera-
Thrawn: Total War
A Legends dossier on Jango and Boba Fett would be nice. Their Legends bios are more detailed and interesting than their canon ones.
I would serve the empire only under grand admiral thrawn thumbs up if you agree!
AL Elder Hail Grand Admiral Thrawn. True heir to the Empire.
I hate the Empire, but if Thrawn led it, I'd follow him.
ALL HAIL EMPEROR THRAWN
FOR THE EMPIRE!
He’s a jerk, I saw him steal some kids finger painting!!
Glory to Thrawn and the Empire of the Hand.
“Let your plans be as dark an impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt”
That was one of the best character profiles iv seen on Admiral Thrawn to date. (for me any ways) very well done TI :)
Why did this body guard betray him ... WHY... He sounds so awesome.
If I remember it correctly that the thing was that his bodyguard was an alien. And he found out that Thrawns forces comitted genocide on his people. I dont think Thrawn was personally responsible for that but his bodyguard was very pissed and didnt want Thrawn to succeed in his plans to build his own empire.
I could be wrong though and of course this all is SW Legends material. Its not canon.
His body guard was from a race that worshipped Darth Vader as a savior of their race. They were very strong, and warlike. When Leia Organa came to their planet they worshipped her as “Lady Vader” as his daughter. She convinced them to turn on Thrawn and serve her instead.
Actually Leia told them that the Empire purposely created an ecological disaster that brought ruin to their planet and then Vader saved them all as part of a plot to ensure their total loyalty
The Noghri (can't remember if that's the right spelling) were the subjects of a battle over their homeworld that decimated their ecosystem. Darth Vader later came to the planet and attempted to subjugate them, but the Noghri proved to be too strong and capable and impressed by this Darth Vader opted for diplomacy.
In the ensuing talks, Vader proved that he could recover the Noghris ecosystem, though it may take decades if not centuries, earning him the eternal gratitude of the Noghri. Secretly however Darth Vader made it so that a genetically engineered plant that the empire created was the only thing that could grow in areas where the Empire had used specially designed chemicals to maintain the toxicity of the planet above lethal levels, but well below life-giving, ensuring the Noghris compliance.
Admiral Thrawn took over the Noghris after Vaders death and continued the charade against the Noghri.
Once Leia arrived at Honoghr (the Noghri's planet) she eventually realized what was going on and revealed the ploy to the Noghri people, forever earning the favor of the Noghri for exposing the Empires falsehood and demonstrating how to recover their world.
The Empire and Thrawn in particular unaware of the Noghris secret change of allegiance, never saw the hidden dagger coming that terminated Thrawns ambitions just as it was about to achieve them.
juan jacobo yarce velez Very well explained!
Oh, this is good, very good.
Kind of makes you wish he could have pulled it off.
Now that, would be a story.
Excellent selection! Glad I got it from the hint on twitter :)
How about: Emperor of Mankind Dossier?
yes
RoflcoptertrollingHD The Emperor protects!
I would rather have one on Eisenhorn ^^
The Emperor Protects!
Too long.
Plus it basically includes dossiers of half other great characters you know in official imperial version of events;) "Yes, yes, our great lord was every great person in human history. Now move alnong, citizen, move along, yes, yes..."
You know, I read the three Thawn novels recently. There's a lot of misinformation and exaggeration about his accomplishments. The author of the Thrawn trilogy has even gone on record complaining about how the character became nothing short of a Mary Sue in the eyes of the fandom and the minds of subsequent writers.
There's no doubt that Thrawn was a military and strategic genius, but he had his limitations - serious limitations. He was a grand strategist, but a purely average tactician. Much of his successes came from his extremely detailed and comprehensive analysis of the situation beforehand, but he was frequently outmaneuvered when things didn't go according to his initial assessments. He was completely blindsided by the betrayal of the Noghri and failed to anticipate the unorthodox tactics used against him during his initial attempt to hijack New Republic warships at the end of the first novel. The effectiveness of the trap he springs on the New Republic fleet during the third novel is also overestimated in the video. The novel makes it clear that Thrawn was actually _losing_ just before he was assassinated. The New Republic fleet had managed to inflict serious damage on the Golan Platforms that were the linchpin of his strategy, and the text describes him as openly considering retreat.
In summary, Thrawn was indeed a great threat to the New Republic. He may even be one of the greatest military minds of the Star Wars universe. But he wasn't perfect, and his author took great pains to try and portray his weaknesses in a rational manner. It's only through exaggeration of his accomplishments that he achieves the boogeyman of Star Wars status that he enjoys today.
Still way better than what Disney did
that doesn't make him a average tactician, guy isn't omniscient, it shows how good of a tactician he really is, who else but Thrawn would decided to pull out and stop wasting resources when your initial plan plan got stopped by sheer blind luck? ya calrissian being there was blind luck. What exactly do you expect Thrawn to do when all the bridges got burned down in the hijacked ships? insist on trying to recover them anyways? And everyone knows that the Republic was dead if Thrawn didnt get assassinated on the third novel, even inflicting serious damage to the golan platforms doesnt mean much, just more damage to the shipyards but the republic fleet was doomed ether ways
Awesome! Keep up the good work! Here's some suggestions for future Dossiers:-
The Illusive Man (Mass Effect)
Gul Dukat (Star Trek)
Ozwell E. Spencer (Resident Evil)
Ansem the Wise (Kingdom Hearts)
Alpha Trion (Transformers)
Scorpius (Farscape)
Gul Dukat might be good.
Oh hell yea do Jack Harper aka The Illusive Man (Mass Effect)
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Master Chief from Halo
Hell yeah!
Can you do the empire from warhammer fantasy next please ?
Is this the legends version of thrawn or the cannon one?
i have to admit
the artwork presented was truly masterful
You guys are amazing, it's only been a few days since we voted Thrawn and here we are with a video the quality of which is unmatched. I really appreciate all the effort put into your work.
As for the next Dossier, I'd love to learn more of the Witch-King of Angmar.
Ah, Thrawn the biggest badass in galactic history.
Here's how I think Thrawn's Empire would've worked:
- No slavery, all alien species would be allowed to join the Imperial Military.
- No superweapons, in Thrawn's philosophy, superweapons were flawed, and would be defeated eventually (Death Stars)
- All starfighters would be equipped with hyperdrives, and shields. Upgrades as well (heavier laser cannons)
- All planets, systems, nebulas would be militarized with installations, factories, shipyards, and laboratories.
- All troops would be cloned (basically a clone army like he did in Legends).
- New capital ships, and powerful weapons.
- Fast, equipped Dreadnoughts such as the Bellator-class Dreadnought would act as sector defense command ships.
Bonus: Thrawn would also want more Onager-class Star Destroyers, and Torpedo Spheres.
the tie defender alone would have turned the tied of war if Thrawn got his way
I agree with these points in my Empire of the Hand fanfics, except the clone troopers part. Some troopers might be clones (even some of the originals, now acting as teachers), but not all. He doesn't need an entirely cloned army -- not with the loyalty he commands in his troops just by treating them like valued, sentient beings. As Baron Fel said, "if you ever served with Thrawn, you'd follow him anywhere."
Thank's Again to featured my Work Here ! What a great job on this video, congrats !
I am crying Thrawn is the best!!!and he had a good reason to do what he did. But maybe if he talked and used evidence and not put an alien of a world wich he subjugated maybe he could have donne better.
Love Thrawn as a character and you guys did a great job with this video! I'd be interested to see a Dossier on Casval Rem Deikun/ Char Aznable, provided other people would be into that. Awesome video!
I'm here after watching the mandalorian season 2 episode 5
Now waiting Dossier of Raven
You mean Revan yes?
When voting I was thinking what show I like the best. All I had to do was think back to the comment section of the last Dossier, People stating that they now wanted to watch a show they had never seen before. I saw myself agreeing with them. I'm glad Dossier is the newest edition to the Institute though I hope others may soon follow :)
My Gosh, I love this video. I have watched it 10 times already. It is the best one about the Thrawn ever available in the YouTUBE. I really liked the narration and soundtracks used to illustrate the character. Thank you very much. May the force be with you.
I still remember him being a Vice Admiral in the Tie Fighter cutscenes
Heir to the Empire > The Farce Awakens
THIS is what the Devil Mouse threw away. _never forget_
Great work guys.
I like how the New Cannon fleshes out why sombody like Thrawn would be an Imperial and not a rebel or a non-military leader, and how we also get to see Thrawns charicter flaws, like his difficulty understanding his enemies on any level other than a tactical one. In a weird way Thrawns greatest weakness is that he can only view a conflict, of any kind, as something to be won.
who's here after his name was mentioned in the mandalorian
Thrawn and Darth Revan are the only one-man armies, that I can think of, that greatly altered the course of history in Star Wars.
Thrawn isn't a one-man Army. He's a master tactician and strategist that uses an army to its best ability. He can hold his own in a one-on-one fight but he isn't a warrior/warlord like Darth Revan, rather he's a soldier/commander and there is a huge difference.
But you are right that both left huge marks on the Star Wars universe.
I love these videos so much. Simply delving into the lore of shows/stories/games is one of my favorite past times.
Your perfect analysis, impeccable story telling and amazing narration is sheer poetry in motion I salute you Templin Institute.
This is why Legends >>>>>>> Canon
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What can I say, even Thrawn can't plan for everything. Sometimes coincidence fucks you all up.
Obligatory reminder that Crystal Star is a legends book where Luke joins an evil cult led by a golden blob that eats children.
Praise be to the mighty Waru!
Legends in GOAT.
New canon is watered down bullshit.
thrawn reclaimed half the galaxy for the empire and revitalize the destroyed morale of the empire soldiers which left the regime able to fight for decades to come
And lost it all.
I just realized that it says "But... it was so artistically done" in the login screen during the intro! NIce
The artworks in this video are amazing
100 times better than The Last Jedi...
Thrawn: *Makes brilliant tactics and strategies from observing an entire species culture through their art*
Star Wars fans: “...” *Starts studying art intensely*
@@michaelandreipalon359 Hey, never hurts to try lol
It’s worth noting that, while Thrawn is notorious as one of the vanishingly few “good boss” leaders in the Empire, his downfall was a direct result of one of his few “bad boss” actions, namely his treatment of the Noghri, who served as his bodyguards and personal corps of assassins. The biosphere of the Noghri homeworld was damaged in the aftermath of a space battle that the Empire took part in. Darth Vader himself earned the Noghri’s support, under the promise that the Empire would work to fix the damage to their homeworld, but instead covertly exacerbated in order to make the Noghri more dependent on the Empire.
When he was given access and control of the Noghri, Thrawn chose to continue this policy of gradually poisoning their homeworld, even as they served him with immense loyalty. It was only coincidence that one of the assassins sent to capture Leia and her children was able to recognize her as Vader’s daughter and, through the resulting circumstances, learn what the Empire had really been doing to their home planet. It was on learning this that Rukh, Thrawn’s bodyguard, killed him and brought Thrawn’s campaign to an end. The unfortunate thing, for him, was that, with the degree of loyalty the Noghri held, Thrawn likely could have reinforced it by revealing the truth of what Vader had been doing, and then taking action to fix it. Instead, he chose to continue the deception, which then backfired horribly, once it was revealed.
And now... we have a Thrawn that is a bit on the.... overweight side, conducting mini skirmishes with Jedi in another galaxy. Yay!
... and who's incompetent beyond believe.
Pretends to be smart and in control but is not XD.
MY LIFE FOR THRAWN! One True Heir to the Empire!
Really great video, didn't pull any punches in explaining and probing his surrounding backstory, ambition, tactical genius, and historical significance. I appreciate it even more when its coming from a source not wholly Star Wars related, that takes serious precedence. Again great job.
Honor Harrington from the David Weber series Honorverse
Have been reading and listening to the novel Thrawn, detailing his early imperial career. It is a most interesting read, he is portrayed as a Sherlock Holmes within the imperial navy. Always calm, always observing, analyzing and utterly ignorant of social conventions. He is often viewed as heartless despite his efforts to minimize civilian causalities and convince his opponents to surrender. Whilst another protagonist in the story, Arihna Pryce, is a clearer example of someone ambitious and utterly cold blooded.
glad that you choosed the real thrawn of the real lucasart starwars and not that stupid disney heresy for kids .
There were some good parts of Thrawn in the disney rebels show but yes
To me, he's that enlightened monarch kind of person, who would bring about an era of real prosperity and even peace. Also a reminder that any ruler, no matter how capable, will just not be enough as long as his successors are not at least as capable...
"Expansionary Defence Force" Seems like a roundabout way of saying 'Invasion Fleet'
This, this is what the first order should have been a dark parody of the rebellion
If Star Trek B-canon is acceptable, a Dossier on Captain Mackenzie Calhoun would be awesome.
When your so many steps ahead you can only be struck from behind.
You should do each of the main characters and villains from Stargate SG-1 that would be nice to see.
Superior intellect breeds superior ambitions. He probably just wanted to be emperor more than he was an ideologue. Pragmatists tend to not be overly ideological, so I'd bet that he was more of an opportunist than die-hard.
Awesome legends background story thankfully Thrawn is canon now
This is what I originally expected from the latest trilogy.
Will an Honor Harrington Dossier ever happen?
Second for Lady Dame Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington, Steadholder Harrington, Duchess Harrington, Countess White Haven, Fleet Admiral Harrington (RMN) Fleet Admiral Harrington (GSN) "Dances on Clouds" "The Salamander"
Despite not knowing much about Starwars expanded universe ,but even with so few I've read about it plus this video alone showed how much better it was if new Star wars trilogy was based on this universe instead of what we have right now. so sad and such a lost opportunity
Thrawn wouldve made a 👍 admiral in the. Galactic republic
I've watched everyone of your guys amazing videos but this has to be my favorite!! Great job!
8:46 I'm a Rebel, and New Republic fan boy, but I do like Thrawn, and I'm not saying he was all that bad, but he could have worned the New Republic about Vong and perhaps convinced the New Republic and the Impiral remanet to join forces to fight off the Vong, because the Empire was defeated by the Rebellion what make it think that only the Empire would have the power defeat the Vong, and he could have been a perfect Supreme Chanselor for the New Republic as well. 🤔
He didn't believe the Rebels/New Republic could fight the War as it's views were too scattered, too inefficient, too democratic, and as the War proved, he was painfully correct.
I don't think that leading a democracy was to Thrawns liking. He certainly cared deeply for the well-being of his subordinates. And he was the guy to create a healthy, just, working atmosphere. But he was not the guy to support democracy.
Things go his way, or they don't go at all. He is more like Napoleon Bonaparte or Frederick the Great. A well-meaning tyrant, but still a tyrant.
Thrawn Becoming a Terrorist Would Break My Heart
The order of an efficient, concentrated Imperial counter-offensive that was waiting for the Vong when they entered the galaxy would have made the campaign a lot shorter and cleaner. Everything the New Republic stood for only threw away lives. I am NOT saying the Empire is right or anything, just that they would have been able to beat back the Vong much easier, especially with Thrawn's foreknowledge.
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This video is pure art, just perfect!
So he's basically the Erwin Rommel/Huey Long of the Galactic Empire?
It's more like if Sun Tzu and Sherlock Holmes had a blue baby together.
Sun Tzu, Sherlock Holmes, and Julius Caesar are better analogies. Since he's very much an intellectual, planner, thinker, analyst, philosopher-warrior.
I was interested, now, you have my *attention*.
I need to read this trilogy.
I like how they explain it like this it's better keep this kind of intro going
1:22 A valiant effort to pronounce my full name. It is rather difficult for humans who have had no experience with the language.
This was a well-thought summary of my many exploits. By analyzing and exploiting the psychological weaknesses found in my opponents and combine it with information from sources, I accomplish what appears to be the impossible. It is a strategy that lead many copy from.
All likes and not one single dislike, now that’s what I’m talking about 👍
I'd like to see videos on the battletech universe. Theres a goldmine of content that I rarely if ever see in channels like this.
Still waiting on that promised Homeworld Episode ;)
Thrawn most likely joined the Empire not only to protect his people, but to protect & prepare the galaxy as well for the eventual arrival of the Yuuzhan Vong. A unified galaxy under his guidance would've been able to combat the threat of the Vong far better than the New Republic. I believe that's a major reason why he decided to wage war on the New Republic & attempt to resurrect the Empire.
Thank you for using the better Canon.
This Thrawn guy was something else...
Woah woah woah... the mask of general Grievous
I wanna see a dossier of him now
Not the Disney one though
Salty Pretzel agreed as long as they don't include stuff from the 2008 Clone Wars that show completely ruined his character
How about the Cartoon Network version of the Clone Wars?
BeyondDaX Yes the 2003 Clone Wars has some great Grievous moments
Salty Pretzel Um...Grievous ruthless is still canon thank to the Clone Wars show. Nothing about his character really change.
Elijah Watson yes the time he got beaten by Jar Jar and the time he got beaten by children definitely made him look tough and changing his backstory from wanting revenge on the Jedi for what they did to his people to being jealous that he couldn't be a Jedi really did improve the character
Every Star Wars channel is loaded with Thrawn videos. If he's SO important, put him in a movie already.
You guys should really do the *United Federation of Nations* from code geass. ^_^
or at least the Black Knights or Britannia Empire
Everything is perfect, from the writing to the voice acting! You guys are a shining beacon of knowledge in a pool of awesomeness