I could see myself pressing that for sure. Especially if she was taking her hand off the grip and holding more of the weight of the gun in her front hand. It's sort of an useful illustration for a review.
I appreciated the cowboy boot bust but didn't subscribe because of the commercialization attempt, I like looking at it but hate when it's being sold to me
agree! first vid i see of her, but of all the channels covering weapons, this one instantly moved to one of my favs ^^ very charming and enjoyable review
So I’ve had a Vector .45 for 5 years now. I’ve SBR mine. Couple of things I can throw out. There is a trigger modification you can do, it’s just replacing a screw. Doesn’t remove pull weight but does remove trigger take up. I have a magpul foregrip on mine. Definitely helps with the magazine release issue. There is a rail you can put on the side. I have a light on mine. I’m left handed and I don’t really have any issues handling this. I’ve put a couple thousand rounds through mine and I shoot matches with it. By far one of my favorite guns to shoot and a head turner on the range.
@@tonynguyen5327 I did at first. The springs are heavy so sometimes I get a stovepipe. Other than that, it runs pretty good. I did file down the mag catch a little bit, not supposed to insert a mag with bolt closed and it's a tight fit if you do but I solved that issue. Any issues I do have are normally related to the magex mags. If the mags are running fine, then I can dump several mags very quickly with no issues. The gun does get dirty very quickly. And I mean VERY quickly. But I haven't had that play any issue with operation at all.
Watching you just go with it after the mag dropped is actually so much more inspiring than I could describe. The showmanship is real. :) Also, after being able to play with one at my local shop, I was told it’s possible to add a mag release button (not sure if they meant relocate) on the right side, where it would sit under your index finger. If that’s possible it may help with the mag drop issue :)
Oops. I think I broke a world record. 7 shots in less than 1 second w/AR. 😅 lol Anyway, what's your fav gun to run in video games? 2023 JOY OF SHOOTING Calendars Available Now! joyofshooting.org/2023-calendar/ LEARN FROM ME (Limited Marksmanship Release): Http://eepurl.com/gMTbkH JOIN US (private messaging, giveaways, insider crew!): www.patreon.com/kirstenjoyweiss See you there! 😄
Bienvenida, ya había pasado mucho tiempo sin un vídeo tuyo. Que bueno que volviste; el canal estaba muy abandonado KIRSTEN. Un gran saludo 👍👍👍👊👊👊🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
don’t worry Kirsten when we first got our brand new M203 Grenade Launchers for our Styer AUG’s in 97 the release pin stuck out about half inch and they were falling off all over the place 😂 one of our guys was climbing up an aircraft hanger roof enclose ladder he got to the top and bumped the release catch and it bounced it’s way down to the Bottom about 40 meters 😂 our armorers fixed that right up tho just cut it off flush 😂
Haven't posted in 4 months, but yeah it's the notifications... funny. Both really cool guns and thanks for leaving the mag drop in. Makes the rest of us mortals feel better.
Thanks Kirsten. Your reviews are appreciated. We don’t always need all the detailed technical specs - just how the guns functions and you are thoroughly on regarding this. This is more of a real world review for how most of us would use the gun. I have owned a couple of these and you are correct - they are quirky but fun. Glad you are back and please please please do more reviews. Thanks again.
Absolutely in love with my Vector. Runs like a champ, super easy takedown, almost no recoil, and super quick inside 50 yards (for me) Worth every penny imo
@@tonynguyen5327 not at all. I have since picked up the .45ACP version. It’s literally a toss up between the CMMG banshee and Vector for these platforms imo
I owned a Vector in .45ACP. 9 times out of 10, light strike, misfire, wait 30 seconds.... This was an early Gen. so maybe they strengthened their firing pins. My other issue was just the bulk (especially with .45) - it was a **heavy** gun. I think you called it a paddle; at least with the .45 variant I would categorize it more as an oar. Ingenuity-wise, though, very modern. I tend to stay away from PCRs and would much rather have one of my AR SBRs in 5.56 or .300BLK handy - especially with a can. Much lighter, and with the can on the front, excellent compensation.
That "freedom" was lost back in the 1930's because gangsters used that "freedom" to rob banks, kidnap or kill people in a crime wave that resulted in the expansion of a small law enforcement agency called the Bureau of Investigation into the FBI.
@@linusa2996 I'm sorry what does that have to do with Joe shmo and his 2nd amendment rights? On your logic all cars are gone, knives bye bye, bats sticks etc all illegal..... And none of those are rights afforded to us THROUGH God and solidified in the bill of rights amendments to the constitution
@@tollav our second amendment rights were originally for land owners to ve able stand up to a tyrannical government, or to prevent taxation without representation from ever happening again. Personally i feel as long as you have not committed crimes, are able to pass a safety competency course and pay for a license you should ve allowed to use/own automatic weapons. But i will follow that with semi auto has you well covered for hunting and self defense, and that i feel all gun owners should pass a safety course and background check.
I knew this morning wasn't going to go well, I took the time to watch your video before going into work. Thank you. I walked out the door with a much better attitude. You are a sweetheart. May the Lord keep you and your family in his loving arms.
@@FelineRaptor-gv4te - Yes, my comment was sarcasm aimed at highlighting the poorly designed position of that mag release. By putting the release where it can be easily bumped inadvertently, Kris designed the mag to fall out.
I've really missed you producing new videos. You're just so much fun, and you always look like you're having so much fun. You don't take things too seriously, and you don't take yourself too seriously. I hope to see a lot more from you soon.
Full auto < Semi auto In an actual hardcore survival scenario, efficient use of supplies is a survival tactic that won't be replaced. Efficient use of supplies and resources always has the advantage over the untrained with full autos. While others scramble to find/make ammo, semi people will have the time to gather food and water and have ammo to fend off bandits while doing so, knowing their homestead is safe and protected. Just saying this for the people that think full auto even makes sense.
Welcome back, and please don't ever leave us like that again! On a side note, it was great to see that brief clip of the Gunny. Rest-well Gunny, and know that you are missed.
I have shot my 45 ACP vector a lot and have never accidently released the mag. I added a vertical grip with integral flashlight on the lower forward rail. This solves the grip issue and works fine for me. I do agree about the safety though. I added an Aimpoint to mine and it makes it almost impossible to not put every round on target. I really like mine.
I have the 10mm Kriss vector and I love it. It has its purposes. It’s not a long gun it’s specifically designed around cqb. It also comes down to understanding the manual of arms around each of your firearms. I have a angled BCM grip on mine with a vortex gen 2 strike fire red dot and it runs all day. Only pain about the vector for me is it gets dirty fast! Great vid joy keep em coming!
So very glad to see you back at it. Excellent review, and like everyone says. Love the way you left the unintended mag release in the video. You could have reshot and no one would’ve known but that’s why we love your channel.
I'm going to say the most said thing you've heard or read in this case.... YOU"RE GORGEOUS!!!! My dream girl for sure, someone who knows her way around a firearm and loves to shoot...
This is the first notification I have gotten from you in a really long time. Hope your eye issue has been resolved to your satisfaction. And my Granddaughter says she likes your fangs. That made me look closer, yup, nice fangs.
@@realsemig not true in europe you can own most guns ( full auto one maybe problomatic ) but you have to get a permit and stuff the main difference is the right to carry, you cant take you Ar-15 to Aldi or run down the streets with it , you need to have a special gun storage in your home and the goverment controls this , you can only shoot them at a licenced range ( usually not one in your home ) you can only transport them in a spacial case , there is a good video on this from a german gun nut th-cam.com/video/q0-J2pYLCvI/w-d-xo.html
Did a quick look around. Found Kriss Vectors for sale in Germany, France, Italy, Sweden and Finland. Kriss webpage lists international dealers in 15 European countries. Some of these dealers serve multiple countries, so yes they are available in Europe.
I put up a video criticizing the vector and had reps from the company pestering me for months. Finally took it down just because it 'wasn't the hill I wanted to die on'. So be prepared Kirsten (and good to see a new video!!!) :)
@John Jenkins I didn't really, I left if up for several years, but now they have the gen 2, and mine was based on the gen 1, so I kept getting questions, and I took it down just because it got annoying, nothing to do with kriss. :)
After watching the guys do the gun channel thing for years it's nice to have a woman step up and do it right. Very informative yet honest review. Plus you're obviously not using your "assests" to sell your channel and that's very refreshing on the modern internet. Subbed 👍
You had me at 0:07. :D I have a vector very similar to the one you shot. I think the only differences are that yours has a wrist brace and mine has a Pic rail hand grip up front to address the grip issue you mentioned. It's a lot of fun to shoot and I think it would be a pretty nice CQB gun and a much better replacement for the M3 than the M4 was. I actually ended up deciding that with a laser activated with a button on the rail mounted handle,, it makes a great home defense gun, especially with subsonic ammo to limit penetration issues. No need for a sight for that purpose, especially when you have the laser. It hugs tight to your body, so it's hard for someone to grab, and it takes the same mags as my G21 nightstand gun. And of course, if I wanted a light too, I can mount one right up top.
Your grin at 4:52 and 10:30 looks wicked, and I enjoyed your little laugh - like your really enjoying yourself. There are people who think that should be illegal.
Do you film these yourself or do you have a person running cameras? At any case is well done and does not matter if you do or don't but if you do it all yourself that is a bit impressive.
I have one in 10mm, rifle length, and generally agree with everything here. Recoil: It's not *less* recoil than other systems, but it's definitely less muzzle *rise* than other systems. Decide if side-to-side thrash is better than muzzle rise for you. With iron sights, I'd say it is. Magazine release: Yes, easy to hit accidentally. I have longer arms so the mag well isn't in a great position for my grip anyway. I have a stubby foregrip in front of it and use that. Sights vs bore axis (height over bore): This is a very noticeable issue at close range! Shooting as much as 3 or even 4 inches below your point of aim could be a deal breaker for some. As a range toy, it's something you need to keep in mind until you're out at least 25 yards. On the other hand, the bore is indeed pretty much right in line with your trigger finger and wrist, and that may be a bigger contributor to the controllability/recoil impulse than the recoil system itself. Double-edged sword. Charging handle heaviness/stiffness: Kirsten, yours is not an anomaly. Mine is *very* heavy, which may be due in part to a heavier spring for 10mm. In any case, I would not recommend this for folks who are getting on in age, or are on the lower end of arm strength. That said, (1) it's not much worse than an AR-15 and (2) there is a workaround: propping the stock against my hip and pulling back in more of a "rowing" motion works for me when I'm worn out or if I'm trying to clear a malfunction. About the only thing I disagree with is the comment that this wouldn't be good for left-handed shooters. As a rightie, I'd prefer the charging handle was on the right anyway. The safety is ambidextrous. The mag catch is easy to hit from the other side. Hitting the bolt release shouldn't be too tough as a leftie either (just slap it with the palm of your right hand after reloading). So it might not be *ideal* for a leftie since it doesn't have true ambi controls, but I imagine it'd be just "fine." Overall, I don't think the Vector in semi-auto does anything a more traditional, similarly-priced system can't do better, except perhaps if you are doing a lot of rapid fire and sticking with iron sights, in which case the lack of muzzle climb is a big deal. In semi-auto it's a neat range toy that does some things differently. But wouldn't be a great choice for competition, nor as your first/only PCC unless you just love the weirdness. Two other notes about the 10mm: (1) shooting full house 10mm loads causes the cases to be severely dented on the brass deflector, so much so that the case can't be reloaded, at least without prying the crescent-moon shaped case mouth back open. So I shoot .40 S&W loads in 10mm cases. It cycles fine. (2) I frequently get failures to feed the first round. I have found this only really happens on fully loaded magazines, where the magazine spring is pushing *really* hard, causing the round to tip upwards more quickly when it slides out of the lips. Drop-in Glock mag extensions seem to mitigate the issue, since the spring force is effectively reduced.
Hmm got the bell toggled on but no notification. Luckily you uploaded right when I was sitting down to watch some videos hahaha man the vector is such an amazing gun I wish I could shoot one as well one day :)
Great video and review, Kirsten. I am subscribed, but I had the bell notification set as personalized, so I didn't get a notification (I've remedied that). The video came up as a suggested video, so that's how I saw it. Glad you're at it again.
And there you go. A woman does not have to be dressed seductively Or at least in an unladylike like manner to be beautiful and truly ladylike. Such a class act.
I enjoy your videos and find myself rewatching quite a few of them. That magazine drop was so funny. Thank you for the laugh while also educating and entertaining us. Damn you’re a fine shot! Incredible skill!
in division2 it's awesome with the laser pulse on heartbreaker... and it never jams in division 2... unless the game crashes.. which happens quite often ... hmmmm
Didn't get notified when it came out... had to search for you thinking that I had been unsubscribed... I had not... I've not seen any notifications from your channel for months. Now I'm just actively searching for you to make sure I get to watch your wonderful vids. Thanks for helping to remind us about how our freedom should be, not how lefties want it to be.
So were you been girl? Good to see you again. Now next time you hit the mag release prematurely just remember that yes you can even make that look good and full of grace.
Occasionally it might fall out, but I love that you put it back in........ this just boils down to training and practice repetition to know the firearm.
I've shot one of these a couple times, so I'll just share my thoughts on it as well, in case anybody out there wants another opinion for whatever reason. The one I used was a semi-auto in .45 ACP. First note, those Glock mags with the extended bodies are a pain to load. The single-feed style of a handgun mag is not nearly as easy to load up at these higher round counts as a double-feed magazine like the AR-15's. Recoil was very manageable, and I really appreciate that this platform gave some love to the .45. The controls... the controls on this thing are what really make me lose interest in it. It's not just the mag release, though Kirsten did a really entertaining job of showing the issue with that! I also don't love the safety, and the controls for the bolt hold-open/catch aren't much better. In fact, you can get pinched by those if you're hand is in the wrong spot at the wrong time. The charging handle is about the only control on this thing I find to be placed in an ideal location. It's a good enough system, but the layout really makes me thing that things just ended up where it was the easiest to place them. It's also worth noting that this is a pretty large weapon for how short your barrel length is. You're gaining little, if anything, over a handgun in that sense. It's going to be more accurate for most people, since there are more points of contact, but that doesn't change the fact that in terms of firepower, this is a very, very big handgun. For my money, there are other things I would rather own. I should repeat that my experience is limited to a semi-auto gun, so my assessment was based on that, and general civilian ownership. If we were to discuss the merits of a full-auto version, that would be a pretty different story. I still feel that the control layout would be an issue, but I would be far more forgiving of its size in relation to its caliber and barrel length.
Had early carbine, had known issues feeding from glock magazines, KRISS didn't respond, as said in the video, no advantage at the rate you fire at a public range, had the mag drop issue, design came from a pistol called the piranha
I've only ever shot the Kriss as a full auto subgun and the issues are just compounded. First, I really find the positioning of the safety to be slightly awkward in the first place, then you have a separate full/semi selector that cannot be accessed without breaking your grip to do so...just bad design! As for the recoil mitigation aspect I've been shooting full auto subguns and rifles for decades and it was difficult for me to get a sense that it was any more comfortable to shoot than any other subgun I've shot. Maybe it's more effective if you have less trigger time on full auto firearms, once the proper stance and grip to control recoil and muzzle rise is second nature to you I don't think the Super V system really makes a significant difference. For me the awkward controls and bulky contours of the Kriss were more of a negative than the recoil mitigation was a positive.
I bought my Kriss Vector 45 acp 1st Gen when it first came out. I had no problems with FF or FE that everyone claimed to have. The reason is because I reversed the Glock mag springs which solved those issues. I still have mine and shooting 1 inch groupings at 150 yards all day long. The only problem is that I believe the anti recoil system was designed for Full Auto purpose to prevent muzzle rise and it defeats the purpose since not eveyone can use FA.
I can't understand how this channel hasn't all the subscribers that follow Brandon, Matt and Donut??? The presentation is top notch 😏 Technical details are swiftly presented without to much dialog. Aaand!! Bloopers integrated in the presentation as they fell, instead of put in the end credits. Awesome video and a twenty out of 10 star rating 🤘🤣🤙 Hands down my favorite gUnTuber 😉
My friend and i rented one at the range we usually go to. Our overall assessment was that it was great engineering and really nice to shoot, but all those additional moving parts made us think it would be a bear on maintenance in the long run. I suppose people who actually own the gun could chime in and say i'm wrong. Would love to try shooting a full auto version one day.
Always awesome to see a video from you Kirsten 😁. I can’t say I’ve ever gotten my hands on one. I’d consider giving the 10 mm version a try. That’s one of my favorite rounds but it’s definitely a juicy round to shoot from a handgun
Just get them all lol I definitely like the vector over the evo. It seems like every time I'm around my scorpion it makes me bleed so I get why it named the scorpion.
Wow! Women like this actually do exist. Loves guns, smart, and attractive - hope I have the pleasure of meeting someone like her one day. Also, always wanted a Kriss Vector because of the influence on me from video games, But never actually realized how much of a pain it can be.
A lesser person would have just reshot the mag drop like it never happened
more fun to keep
Nice recovery, plus informative.
isn't it obvious she did it on purpose?
Most don't hold the loaded weapon to talk about it... usually it's cleared for safety reasons...
I could see myself pressing that for sure. Especially if she was taking her hand off the grip and holding more of the weight of the gun in her front hand. It's sort of an useful illustration for a review.
I appreciate that you didn't edit out the mag drop. That deserves a sub
I appreciated the cowboy boot bust but didn't subscribe because of the commercialization attempt, I like looking at it but hate when it's being sold to me
I was just thinking the same. That mag dropped and she just ploughed on. Props. Insight to character.
I appreciated that too, but I subbed when she got down to see if the kriss is the ar could get lower prone. Great angles on thus video
Same, it was clearly a comic relief :D
agree! first vid i see of her, but of all the channels covering weapons, this one instantly moved to one of my favs ^^ very charming and enjoyable review
Missed my Joy of shooting updates. What a comeback fun gun!
So I’ve had a Vector .45 for 5 years now. I’ve SBR mine. Couple of things I can throw out. There is a trigger modification you can do, it’s just replacing a screw. Doesn’t remove pull weight but does remove trigger take up. I have a magpul foregrip on mine. Definitely helps with the magazine release issue. There is a rail you can put on the side. I have a light on mine. I’m left handed and I don’t really have any issues handling this.
I’ve put a couple thousand rounds through mine and I shoot matches with it. By far one of my favorite guns to shoot and a head turner on the range.
what screw?
+1 front grip. I have gorilla hands and kept ejecting the mags by accident, as well.
Have you had any issues with yours?
@@tonynguyen5327 I did at first. The springs are heavy so sometimes I get a stovepipe. Other than that, it runs pretty good. I did file down the mag catch a little bit, not supposed to insert a mag with bolt closed and it's a tight fit if you do but I solved that issue. Any issues I do have are normally related to the magex mags. If the mags are running fine, then I can dump several mags very quickly with no issues.
The gun does get dirty very quickly. And I mean VERY quickly. But I haven't had that play any issue with operation at all.
The look on your face when the mag dropped: priceless 😎
Watching you just go with it after the mag dropped is actually so much more inspiring than I could describe. The showmanship is real. :)
Also, after being able to play with one at my local shop, I was told it’s possible to add a mag release button (not sure if they meant relocate) on the right side, where it would sit under your index finger. If that’s possible it may help with the mag drop issue :)
Oops. I think I broke a world record. 7 shots in less than 1 second w/AR. 😅 lol
Anyway, what's your fav gun to run in video games?
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Bienvenida, ya había pasado mucho tiempo sin un vídeo tuyo. Que bueno que volviste; el canal estaba muy abandonado KIRSTEN. Un gran saludo 👍👍👍👊👊👊🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
There are so many favorites, one of the reasons I like the museum stage in MW 2. I think the M249 is probably up there
don’t worry Kirsten when we first got our brand new M203 Grenade Launchers for our Styer AUG’s in 97 the release pin stuck out about half inch and they were falling off all over the place 😂 one of our guys was climbing up an aircraft hanger roof enclose ladder he got to the top and bumped the release catch and it bounced it’s way down to the Bottom about 40 meters 😂 our armorers fixed that right up tho just cut it off flush 😂
KRISS! Nice! Let me borrow it so I can review it for my Channel haha.
Haven't posted in 4 months, but yeah it's the notifications... funny. Both really cool guns and thanks for leaving the mag drop in. Makes the rest of us mortals feel better.
Thanks Kirsten. Your reviews are appreciated. We don’t always need all the detailed technical specs - just how the guns functions and you are thoroughly on regarding this. This is more of a real world review for how most of us would use the gun. I have owned a couple of these and you are correct - they are quirky but fun. Glad you are back and please please please do more reviews. Thanks again.
Welcome back Kirsten! I'm pretty sure everybody misses you!
Absolutely in love with my Vector. Runs like a champ, super easy takedown, almost no recoil, and super quick inside 50 yards (for me) Worth every penny imo
Have you had any issues with yours?
@@tonynguyen5327 not at all. I have since picked up the .45ACP version. It’s literally a toss up between the CMMG banshee and Vector for these platforms imo
@@allwheeler that’s good to hear! I impulse bought a 9mm and after reading about them after getting home I was kind of worried haha.
SHES BACK!
Great to see you Kirsten!
*I did get the notification*
😉
Thanks for not editing out the mag drop.. The look on your face was priceless. Great vid as always.
I owned a Vector in .45ACP. 9 times out of 10, light strike, misfire, wait 30 seconds.... This was an early Gen. so maybe they strengthened their firing pins. My other issue was just the bulk (especially with .45) - it was a **heavy** gun. I think you called it a paddle; at least with the .45 variant I would categorize it more as an oar. Ingenuity-wise, though, very modern.
I tend to stay away from PCRs and would much rather have one of my AR SBRs in 5.56 or .300BLK handy - especially with a can. Much lighter, and with the can on the front, excellent compensation.
"because we are not allowed freedom", made me lol
That "freedom" was lost back in the 1930's because gangsters used that "freedom" to rob banks, kidnap or kill people in a crime wave that resulted in the expansion of a small law enforcement agency called the Bureau of Investigation into the FBI.
@@linusa2996 I'm sorry what does that have to do with Joe shmo and his 2nd amendment rights? On your logic all cars are gone, knives bye bye, bats sticks etc all illegal..... And none of those are rights afforded to us THROUGH God and solidified in the bill of rights amendments to the constitution
@@tollav our second amendment rights were originally for land owners to ve able stand up to a tyrannical government, or to prevent taxation without representation from ever happening again. Personally i feel as long as you have not committed crimes, are able to pass a safety competency course and pay for a license you should ve allowed to use/own automatic weapons. But i will follow that with semi auto has you well covered for hunting and self defense, and that i feel all gun owners should pass a safety course and background check.
What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you not understand?
@@linusa2996 cars can kill people and rob banks so lets take away people's cars and banks because banks are the root cause of it
I knew this morning wasn't going to go well, I took the time to watch your video before going into work. Thank you. I walked out the door with a much better attitude. You are a sweetheart. May the Lord keep you and your family in his loving arms.
All fun an tacticool until the magazine falls out accidentally.
Laughing so much am coughing 🤣🤣
Joey great to have u back on track
Accidentally? It looks like Kriss designed it to fall out.
@@Texas240 no, there is a mag release button near the grip, which i think she pressed accidentally.
@@FelineRaptor-gv4te - Yes, my comment was sarcasm aimed at highlighting the poorly designed position of that mag release.
By putting the release where it can be easily bumped inadvertently, Kris designed the mag to fall out.
@@Texas240 oh, now i got you sorry for my dumbness
This is the best Vector review I've seen so far, and I've seen a few. Thank you!
I've really missed you producing new videos. You're just so much fun, and you always look like you're having so much fun. You don't take things too seriously, and you don't take yourself too seriously. I hope to see a lot more from you soon.
"We're not allowed to have freedom"
You just earned yourself a sub..
@MrCheshire24 where is that written in the constitution?
Full auto < Semi auto
In an actual hardcore survival scenario, efficient use of supplies is a survival tactic that won't be replaced. Efficient use of supplies and resources always has the advantage over the untrained with full autos. While others scramble to find/make ammo, semi people will have the time to gather food and water and have ammo to fend off bandits while doing so, knowing their homestead is safe and protected. Just saying this for the people that think full auto even makes sense.
@MrCheshire24 agree
Welcome back, and please don't ever leave us like that again!
On a side note, it was great to see that brief clip of the Gunny. Rest-well Gunny, and know that you are missed.
I have shot my 45 ACP vector a lot and have never accidently released the mag. I added a vertical grip with integral flashlight on the lower forward rail. This solves the grip issue and works fine for me. I do agree about the safety though. I added an Aimpoint to mine and it makes it almost impossible to not put every round on target. I really like mine.
Does it jam a lot and what ammo is good
So happy you have posted. Your fans miss you and your professionalism. Hope your eyes are healing and will be 100%.
Thanks! Healing has been a struggle! But I'm still movin' :)
Great to see you are back! 💪😉👍
I have the 10mm Kriss vector and I love it. It has its purposes. It’s not a long gun it’s specifically designed around cqb. It also comes down to understanding the manual of arms around each of your firearms. I have a angled BCM grip on mine with a vortex gen 2 strike fire red dot and it runs all day. Only pain about the vector for me is it gets dirty fast! Great vid joy keep em coming!
Closer and closer to the Space Marines bolter!
@Grimace427 thatd be neat af
As I recall bolters basically fired 40mm HEDP rounds, an explosive projectile made to pen armor.
Meh. Red wunz go fasta! Waaaaaauuuuugh!
(I'm actually more of an IG fanboy, but anyway...)
@Grimace427Hahahahaha! The internet would explode, or we would!! 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍
@@xxxlonewolf49 .75 caliber I believe. Don't know if that works out to 40mm, but yes they are HEAP rnds! 😁😁👍👍
Kirsten: "we got a Kriss Vector to look at".
Me: That's not all I look at.
Wait...There was gun in this vid?
yup.
"now lets put that back in again"
She is the perfect woman.
@@Wolfnap313 there is no such thing in this world as a perfect woman.
So very glad to see you back at it. Excellent review, and like everyone says. Love the way you left the unintended mag release in the video. You could have reshot and no one would’ve known but that’s why we love your channel.
I'm going to say the most said thing you've heard or read in this case.... YOU"RE GORGEOUS!!!! My dream girl for sure, someone who knows her way around a firearm and loves to shoot...
There my gal!! Great to see you back and enjoying the freedom!! Spread those freedom seeds so others can see how much fun it is!
Great to see you back Kirsten! Hope to see many more videos from you. Also hope you're feeling better. God bless you young lady & WELCOME BACK!!!!
Welcome back. Missed demos, your shooting and your SMILE! Wh...what... a real review - awesome.
This is the first notification I have gotten from you in a really long time.
Hope your eye issue has been resolved to your satisfaction. And my Granddaughter says she likes your fangs. That made me look closer, yup, nice fangs.
"if you ever get a chance to shoot a vector"
*cries in european *
Huh? These are available in Europe.
@@xjyrki you don't have gun rights in most places
@@realsemig not true in europe you can own most guns ( full auto one maybe problomatic ) but you have to get a permit and stuff the main difference is the right to carry, you cant take you Ar-15 to Aldi or run down the streets with it , you need to have a special gun storage in your home and the goverment controls this , you can only shoot them at a licenced range ( usually not one in your home ) you can only transport them in a spacial case , there is a good video on this from a german gun nut th-cam.com/video/q0-J2pYLCvI/w-d-xo.html
PCCs are available in most EU nations for sport shooters.
Did a quick look around. Found Kriss Vectors for sale in Germany, France, Italy, Sweden and Finland. Kriss webpage lists international dealers in 15 European countries. Some of these dealers serve multiple countries, so yes they are available in Europe.
I’m extremely happy you’re back on your Chanel. You teach us all and we know you know what you’re talking about.
I put up a video criticizing the vector and had reps from the company pestering me for months. Finally took it down just because it 'wasn't the hill I wanted to die on'. So be prepared Kirsten (and good to see a new video!!!) :)
Not scared.
@@KirstenJoyWeiss Oh I have no doubt!
@John Jenkins I didn't really, I left if up for several years, but now they have the gen 2, and mine was based on the gen 1, so I kept getting questions, and I took it down just because it got annoying, nothing to do with kriss. :)
@@KirstenJoyWeiss do a video on the VZ 58
"Not allowed to have freedom"...Love it, couldn't agree more!
We come for the reviews but stay for Kirsten's technical terminology. This" weird looking" part. LOL
"It's real funky looking..."
Got me with "Gangsta Lean", Subbed.
So cute, and such a great representative for the shooting community.
After watching the guys do the gun channel thing for years it's nice to have a woman step up and do it right. Very informative yet honest review. Plus you're obviously not using your "assests" to sell your channel and that's very refreshing on the modern internet. Subbed 👍
Hey Kirsten, good to see you again, I hope you are doing well and your eyes are getting better.
Two N’s!
What happened to her eyes? Sorry been out of the loop I guess.
That smile when you were shooting... I know that smile!! I love that feeling. Thank you for sharing!!!
It's nice to see you again young lady..
God bless you and your loved ones
Hey Kirsten, so good to see you back.
One day I WILL own one of these(in 10mm), I've loved it ever since I first read about it, way before it was in any video games.
Ahhhh yes, just remember the 3 Gs.
1 - Girls.
2 - Guns
3 - Going to jail for watching this in California.
Glad to see you back doing what you love and sharing it with all of us that love it too.
You had me at 0:07. :D
I have a vector very similar to the one you shot. I think the only differences are that yours has a wrist brace and mine has a Pic rail hand grip up front to address the grip issue you mentioned.
It's a lot of fun to shoot and I think it would be a pretty nice CQB gun and a much better replacement for the M3 than the M4 was.
I actually ended up deciding that with a laser activated with a button on the rail mounted handle,, it makes a great home defense gun, especially with subsonic ammo to limit penetration issues.
No need for a sight for that purpose, especially when you have the laser. It hugs tight to your body, so it's hard for someone to grab, and it takes the same mags as my G21 nightstand gun.
And of course, if I wanted a light too, I can mount one right up top.
Kirsten be like "I am pretty and I have a pretty gun"
And there's nothing wrong with any of that.
Your grin at 4:52 and 10:30 looks wicked, and I enjoyed your little laugh - like your really enjoying yourself. There are people who think that should be illegal.
So good to see you!!!
Do you film these yourself or do you have a person running cameras? At any case is well done and does not matter if you do or don't but if you do it all yourself that is a bit impressive.
". . . because we're not allowed to have . . . freedom."
Best, smartest, most accurate statement I've heard in a very long time! Well said!
Glad youre healing well, keep posting tgese great videos!
So glad to see another vid from you, was starting to worry that you were another casualty of all the current goings on.
I have one in 10mm, rifle length, and generally agree with everything here.
Recoil: It's not *less* recoil than other systems, but it's definitely less muzzle *rise* than other systems. Decide if side-to-side thrash is better than muzzle rise for you. With iron sights, I'd say it is.
Magazine release: Yes, easy to hit accidentally. I have longer arms so the mag well isn't in a great position for my grip anyway. I have a stubby foregrip in front of it and use that.
Sights vs bore axis (height over bore): This is a very noticeable issue at close range! Shooting as much as 3 or even 4 inches below your point of aim could be a deal breaker for some. As a range toy, it's something you need to keep in mind until you're out at least 25 yards. On the other hand, the bore is indeed pretty much right in line with your trigger finger and wrist, and that may be a bigger contributor to the controllability/recoil impulse than the recoil system itself. Double-edged sword.
Charging handle heaviness/stiffness: Kirsten, yours is not an anomaly. Mine is *very* heavy, which may be due in part to a heavier spring for 10mm. In any case, I would not recommend this for folks who are getting on in age, or are on the lower end of arm strength. That said, (1) it's not much worse than an AR-15 and (2) there is a workaround: propping the stock against my hip and pulling back in more of a "rowing" motion works for me when I'm worn out or if I'm trying to clear a malfunction.
About the only thing I disagree with is the comment that this wouldn't be good for left-handed shooters. As a rightie, I'd prefer the charging handle was on the right anyway. The safety is ambidextrous. The mag catch is easy to hit from the other side. Hitting the bolt release shouldn't be too tough as a leftie either (just slap it with the palm of your right hand after reloading). So it might not be *ideal* for a leftie since it doesn't have true ambi controls, but I imagine it'd be just "fine."
Overall, I don't think the Vector in semi-auto does anything a more traditional, similarly-priced system can't do better, except perhaps if you are doing a lot of rapid fire and sticking with iron sights, in which case the lack of muzzle climb is a big deal.
In semi-auto it's a neat range toy that does some things differently. But wouldn't be a great choice for competition, nor as your first/only PCC unless you just love the weirdness.
Two other notes about the 10mm:
(1) shooting full house 10mm loads causes the cases to be severely dented on the brass deflector, so much so that the case can't be reloaded, at least without prying the crescent-moon shaped case mouth back open. So I shoot .40 S&W loads in 10mm cases. It cycles fine.
(2) I frequently get failures to feed the first round. I have found this only really happens on fully loaded magazines, where the magazine spring is pushing *really* hard, causing the round to tip upwards more quickly when it slides out of the lips. Drop-in Glock mag extensions seem to mitigate the issue, since the spring force is effectively reduced.
Such a pleasure to watch someone shoot while still being easy on the eyes.
yeah, it is a cool-looking and stylish gun huh?
What's that? *Ears go up*
Fantastic tactical magazine change. *BIG GRIN*
Hmm got the bell toggled on but no notification. Luckily you uploaded right when I was sitting down to watch some videos hahaha man the vector is such an amazing gun I wish I could shoot one as well one day :)
Same here. It has a scary gun in it, so TH-cam has to ghost shadow the algorithm.
Even though I am subscribed and clicked the bell, I didn't get a notification of recent videos. Thankfully, they popped up in the sidebar.
IMHO, for a combat weapon, the vector platform it’s only worth the additional weight and bulk if it is full-auto.
Yes, it's a, "Submachine gun," not a deer rifle.
💯
@@MADDLADO1 smg and machine pistol are just ar with pistol bullet (meanwhile carbines try so hard to be one oh these twos :p)
Jaw dropping, such beautiful.
The intricacy,
the gas system,
the Lord's Calaber....... .45ACP
Perfection.
awesome review !!
“Now, I’ll show you that magazine release design flaw agai…ahh, crap”
I was smiling the whole run time of this video.
Great video and review, Kirsten. I am subscribed, but I had the bell notification set as personalized, so I didn't get a notification (I've remedied that). The video came up as a suggested video, so that's how I saw it. Glad you're at it again.
And there you go. A woman does not have to be dressed seductively Or at least in an unladylike like manner to be beautiful and truly ladylike. Such a class act.
Well said. This woman is naturally beautiful and god bless her she’s smart and funny and strong too.
Unlike the Girls with guns channel
I enjoy your videos and find myself rewatching quite a few of them. That magazine drop was so funny. Thank you for the laugh while also educating and entertaining us. Damn you’re a fine shot! Incredible skill!
Someone has been working on her squats at the gym. It's working! Awesome video. We've missed you!
in division2 it's awesome with the laser pulse on heartbreaker... and it never jams in division 2... unless the game crashes.. which happens quite often ... hmmmm
You should make videos more often. You bring great content 👏
Awesome video, thank you for showing the magazine drop out, not editing it makes your videos 100% legit, thanks
Didn't get notified when it came out... had to search for you thinking that I had been unsubscribed... I had not... I've not seen any notifications from your channel for months. Now I'm just actively searching for you to make sure I get to watch your wonderful vids. Thanks for helping to remind us about how our freedom should be, not how lefties want it to be.
Hallelujah! A new Joy of Shooting video! Nice to see you back!
“Let me demonstrate a critical design fla…ahh, crap”
Lol that magazine was like yah I'm not gonna participate on this segment
The awesome shooting lady is back.
1:04 Love the reaction! Glad you left it in for A) the comedic relief B) it's actually a very important ergonomic note
This is when pure beauty and brains gets crossed with gun porn and skill, it doesn’t get any better!! Joy you are truly awesome!
You are by far the most thoughtful of people on TH-cam. I hope things are going well for you ❤️
So were you been girl? Good to see you again. Now next time you hit the mag release prematurely just remember that yes you can even make that look good and full of grace.
Occasionally it might fall out, but I love that you put it back in........ this just boils down to training and practice repetition to know the firearm.
I've shot one of these a couple times, so I'll just share my thoughts on it as well, in case anybody out there wants another opinion for whatever reason. The one I used was a semi-auto in .45 ACP. First note, those Glock mags with the extended bodies are a pain to load. The single-feed style of a handgun mag is not nearly as easy to load up at these higher round counts as a double-feed magazine like the AR-15's. Recoil was very manageable, and I really appreciate that this platform gave some love to the .45. The controls... the controls on this thing are what really make me lose interest in it. It's not just the mag release, though Kirsten did a really entertaining job of showing the issue with that! I also don't love the safety, and the controls for the bolt hold-open/catch aren't much better. In fact, you can get pinched by those if you're hand is in the wrong spot at the wrong time. The charging handle is about the only control on this thing I find to be placed in an ideal location. It's a good enough system, but the layout really makes me thing that things just ended up where it was the easiest to place them. It's also worth noting that this is a pretty large weapon for how short your barrel length is. You're gaining little, if anything, over a handgun in that sense. It's going to be more accurate for most people, since there are more points of contact, but that doesn't change the fact that in terms of firepower, this is a very, very big handgun. For my money, there are other things I would rather own.
I should repeat that my experience is limited to a semi-auto gun, so my assessment was based on that, and general civilian ownership. If we were to discuss the merits of a full-auto version, that would be a pretty different story. I still feel that the control layout would be an issue, but I would be far more forgiving of its size in relation to its caliber and barrel length.
Excellent review Jefe, I appreciate hearing your perspective.
Had early carbine, had known issues feeding from glock magazines, KRISS didn't respond, as said in the video, no advantage at the rate you fire at a public range, had the mag drop issue, design came from a pistol called the piranha
I've only ever shot the Kriss as a full auto subgun and the issues are just compounded. First, I really find the positioning of the safety to be slightly awkward in the first place, then you have a separate full/semi selector that cannot be accessed without breaking your grip to do so...just bad design! As for the recoil mitigation aspect I've been shooting full auto subguns and rifles for decades and it was difficult for me to get a sense that it was any more comfortable to shoot than any other subgun I've shot. Maybe it's more effective if you have less trigger time on full auto firearms, once the proper stance and grip to control recoil and muzzle rise is second nature to you I don't think the Super V system really makes a significant difference. For me the awkward controls and bulky contours of the Kriss were more of a negative than the recoil mitigation was a positive.
I bought my Kriss Vector 45 acp 1st Gen when it first came out. I had no problems with FF or FE that everyone claimed to have. The reason is because I reversed the Glock mag springs which solved those issues. I still have mine and shooting 1 inch groupings at 150 yards all day long. The only problem is that I believe the anti recoil system was designed for Full Auto purpose to prevent muzzle rise and it defeats the purpose since not eveyone can use FA.
Love the intro. That final shot is killer. The difference with recoil between those guns was clear as day. Great to see your new vid, keep being free.
I can't understand how this channel hasn't all the subscribers that follow Brandon, Matt and Donut???
The presentation is top notch 😏
Technical details are swiftly presented without to much dialog.
Aaand!!
Bloopers integrated in the presentation as they fell, instead of put in the end credits.
Awesome video and a twenty out of 10 star rating 🤘🤣🤙
Hands down my favorite gUnTuber 😉
My wife knows about my love for you and I don't even care.
I shot a .45 acp Kriss once at a pile of plywood in a gunshop's backroom. All shots point of aim. That was an amazing experience.
That's one beautiful war machine right there, the gun looks pretty cool too. 👍
My friend and i rented one at the range we usually go to. Our overall assessment was that it was great engineering and really nice to shoot, but all those additional moving parts made us think it would be a bear on maintenance in the long run. I suppose people who actually own the gun could chime in and say i'm wrong. Would love to try shooting a full auto version one day.
Always awesome to see a video from you Kirsten 😁. I can’t say I’ve ever gotten my hands on one. I’d consider giving the 10 mm version a try. That’s one of my favorite rounds but it’s definitely a juicy round to shoot from a handgun
especially if there's the remnant of civilization (that's post-nuclear-apocalypse) around you
Welcome back Kristen! I did finally get a notification three days later. I hope you are doing well and thanks for sharing!
I'm deciding between a kriss vector, ar 9 (banshee), or Scorpion evo. The KRISS just seems so cool.
Just get them all lol I definitely like the vector over the evo. It seems like every time I'm around my scorpion it makes me bleed so I get why it named the scorpion.
@@rasputian2010 getting them all is what will end up happening. Guns are addicting. I appreciate it very much!
Didn’t edit out a blooper- what a genuine person !
One handed gangster style ❤ Hope your doing ok . Health eyes.👀. 🌹🇺🇸
Welcome back!!!!! You have definitely been missed!!! Also love the blooper you left in. ❤❤
You could say that it "Vector(s)" the recoil away from its original direction... 😁
........clever..........🤦♂️
Careful not to piss off the lawyers. That should be ©2021Vector™(s)........jk
1:50 as I understand it rises when the barrel is higher than the butt. In case of vector barrel is lower
Correct! And as a result, the vector has its sights well above the barrel also.
Wow! Women like this actually do exist. Loves guns, smart, and attractive - hope I have the pleasure of meeting someone like her one day.
Also, always wanted a Kriss Vector because of the influence on me from video games,
But never actually realized how much of a pain it can be.
you can put a doubletap trigger in it, and you can use a longer trigger screw to adjust the trigger for enhanced performance