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This is why no scope shadow is wrong. In precision/long range shooting world you MUST have a consistent width scope shadow all the way around. This is the only way to ensure your eye placement is centered and consistent every time
So figured out I was naturally canting my rifle, and added a level to my scope. Groups have gotten tighter for sure. Now I’m having to break this bad habit I’ve ingrained!
When you started shooting you must have been a great listener. You are very experienced and have mastered the difficult sport of shooting. I take my hat off to you. Oh, you are able to explain/describe shooting principals in your instruction clearly. Very few coaches can do that. You have put a lot into your instruction dialog and it works well for you. Again great shooter and great coach.
Gun level isn't important: it's the optic that HAS to be level. Like the lady said, some shooters build cant into the rifle to have a better fit in the pocket (say goodbye to any weak side shooting, but if you don't expect to shoot on your weak side, go for it). Every scope should have a bubble.
Miss Kirsten. You 100% solved my problem. Every video on TH-cam says I’m not using enough trigger finger. That’s all. You’re the only one speaking about cant. Thank you so much.
Most important at long range 300 and out . I keep a short level in my shooting bag and level my target before stapling it to the stop then I can use the edge of the target with my cross hairs even at 600 meters where I cant see the lines on the target . It is important to have your scope aligned with the center of your rifle when mounting it also . Thanks Kirstin great video . And thanks for all your support in the fight to keep our gun rights , so important .
This is the second of your videos I've watched. Again, I'm so very impressed by the complete clarity of your presentation: lucid, well-spoken, no wasted words. I contrast that to innumerable videos by folks who babble and blather off the tops of their heads! So: brava!
An easy training fix is to mount a scope level when you sight the rifle in...leave the level on the gun when you shoot and practice holding the gun level while shooting until it becomes natural...could take a while for some people and not so long for others...but it does work 🙂 keep up the great videos Kirsten...your knowledge is invaluable to the gun community 👍🏻
Me at the range telling myself, "I think I can, I think I can!" Shoots and misses. Me now using the excuse, "Yes I can, but my "gun cant...". Thanks Kirsten! Long-time subscriber and fan.
Your delivery of this video tells me you know more about what you are talking about than most would think. Watching your eyes I could tell you were not just reading off a teleprompter with rehearsal. Your eyes wandered off while you were talking like you were seeing something and still producing your video. Tells me you know your stuff Kirsten! Oh and you have mesmerizing eyes on top of all that. Great video, and cantering shots is something I was less aware of.
Well thank you!! Yeah, I don't use teleprompter. Sometimes I think maybe I should! lol I've spent A LOT of hours and years training and learning different aspects of shooting. I appreciate your observation, thank you
That was an excellent video. Here's what I did so hopefully it helps someone. I bought a wheeler scope level system but I only used half of the kit. What I did was leveled my rifle as best I could, then I used a fishing string hanging from the ceiling. Shine a flashlight through the front of the scope, so backwards, and shined the reticle on the wall. Lined my reticle to the plumb Bob of the string, then tightened the scope down. Rifle, scope, level method. After I rechecked several times, I added a Vortex scope bubble level. Verified it to the rifle level and locked it down on my scope. Rifle, scope, level.
You are spot on with canting. We used spirit levels on our Sharps rifles shooting long range BPCR matches as... well “being a half a bubble off” is the difference between a hit or miss. I have carried this over to my scoped long range center fire rifles because as you pointed out, not canting your rifle is critical. Another observation is the unusual knack for people to mount their optics with a few degrees tilt. Lefties tend to lean the crosshairs left and righties to the right. Most shooters don’t see it until they hand their rifle to another shooter to try out. I love your videos and they are always informative. Thank you!
I learned this the hard way when shooting competitively in high school. I thought it wouldn't be an issue if I did it consistently, but matching the same angle every time we went out, or even shot to shot was impossible. It's easy to replicate level, not so much for an arbitrary angle.
Thanks for the advice Kirsten. I've noticed some people have a spirit level on their scope or mount. This explains it. Glad you mentioned Dunkirk. My senior term paper in high school was on Dunkirk. It was a miraculous evacuation. Winston Churchill used the event to challenge the English on to victory in WWII.
Imagine the dance card backlog this beautiful woman has after months of Covid lockdown. Glad to see she’s humble enough to include bloopers. So many women these days will take 100 selfies & pass it as one original shot. Nice job mom & dad!
Think of it this way, if you draw a vertical line through your bore and sights, that is the plane that the bullet will rise through. If that plane is perfectly vertical. the bullet will rise and then fall through the exact same plane (wind and spin drift excluded). If you cant the gun to the left then that line cants to the left as well and the bullet rises to the left but falls straight down rather than staying in the same plane as your line. Vice versa to the right. Your line must be parallel with the pull of gravity which may not be perpendicular with the horizon, that's why those little bubble levels that attach to your rifle can be handy. As Kirsten points out, a good marksman will assure that the rifle (line) is vertical and do it every time. With practice you can instinctively estimate vertical with a high degree of accuracy.
@@vanya757 I was an expert rifleman and rifle range coach in the Marine Corps. I enjoy helping people to learn to shoot well. Non-shooters tend to think you just pick up a gun, point it, pull the trigger, and your bullet will hit the target because that's the way it happens in the movies... in the real world, good shooting requires knowledge and skill. Anti-gunners don't understand that hitting that target is the successful combination of the two and that it is fun to learn, practice, and succeed.
Oh. I am astonished!!! How is it reality!!! A very pretty and young lady with a nice voice, good language and pronunciation, speaking about my favorirte subject (shooting) . It is like a beautiful dream!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for bringing to my attention how important scope cant is!!! Some times shooting from a range bag in the prone position is uneven and has been causing me problems shooting long distances! I'm glad I found your web cast!
Never thought about canting the gun...but it now makes perfect sense and something that needs to be considered as much as keeping your eye on the front sight. Thank you!!
Kirsten Joy Weiss could you do a video and accuracy test a Tavor X95 someone of your marksmanship should be able to tell it's it's the rifle or the shooter.
I enjoyed the video and subbed. I am 62 years old and shoot Airguns a lot. There is a least one Airgun rated scope that has a built in level. That is the level can be see in the scope picture at 6 O'clock, I have thought about purchasing it for my grand-kids to use. I don't know for sure if I "cant", but I know can and I am consistent too, so I don't need it myself. It is the UTG bubble leveler 4-16x56 AO Scope
Well heck!! that explains the difference from my bench shooting to my off-hand shooting. I've been resting the rifle in my shoulder and shots are low right with a good group.... back to the drawing board. This is why I love shooting. Thanks Kirsten!!
Intelligent, beautiful and deadly perfect combo! I am actually a shooter who can't my rifle left in towards my body quite a bit. Now is 0 to 300 yards I was able to hit deer with my 308 consistently and never have to follow up a shot. However I started shooting competition airguns and since learned to level my scope and train myself to hold the gun straight. With an air rifle all of my inconsistencies were magnified. Maybe cover trigger tecniques too? Great video and gives me hope maybe someday I'll find a girl that enjoys shooting as much as I do! Keep up the good work!
Thank you and God bless, I have always had a problem with canting my rifle, and getting my scope to perfectly set and level on top. Due to my fat head I guess. I appreciate the explanation of how that works. I have a WWII German K98 with a period correct scope on it I have been trying to get sighted in, it's been fun. I know the rifle is quite accurate, but with my old eyes, shooting in braille is no fun hence the need for the scope. Again thanks, and God bless you.
I've watched several long range/ 'gun cant' videos today, and was having a little trouble understanding why cant was so important. The analogy of the artillery cannon lobbing the bullet up and over the line of sight made a light bulb go on over my head. I get it now. Plus I can see better in my dark basement because of the extra light. Thanks KJW! Extending the parameters of a problem to the extreme edges of it's range is often helpful to understand what subtleties are happening near the middle. If you still don't quite get it, take this illustration even farther, as I did. The line of sight through the scope to the target is a straight line like a laser beam, and for simplicity, imagine that it is level. In a normal situation, the rifle barrel is angled upward, pointing above the target to 'lob' the projectile up above the line of sight. Gravity pulls the projectile back down in an arc to the target. Imagine what would happen if you laid the rifle/scope on its left side - a 90 degree left cant. With the line of sight still on the target, the rifle barrel would now be pointed left of the target instead of above it, and there would be zero upward angle to the barrel. Gravity is no longer acting to pull the bullet to the target - it's just pulling it towards the ground along it's trajectory - which is to the left of the target. It's easy to see that the bullet will go WAY left and low.
That is a very good point. Can't is fairly easy to overlook. Other thing I found is shooters focus on the target and not the reticle. In my experience, most people "think" they fired a clean shot but they actually slightly jerked the trigger. Especially with new shooters thinking that a 1lb trigger pull will improve their groups.
I had just managed to learn this a couple of days ago, a week after restoring, reassembling, and scoping up an old air rifle. My newbie butt noticed after some time that the gun has an extreme cant/tilt to the right while the scope was previously set to the horizon by my father. The concept sunk in my mind after i tried to shoot close range and the shot went low and left (instead of the expected only low) and then i figured out how critical it is that the crosshair vertical axis is colinear with the barrel, and if i continued with the setup it would be unreliable at longer range. Wish i saw this earlier, great and helpful video!
You me lady...produce a first rate video. You communicate everything that needs to be said. The way it needs to be said. Which is in a clean, clear, streight foward intellectual manner. I subcribed.
@@cynthiaclarke3979 Through the scope? Then let's pray their shooting hand is controlled so there can be no accident of bang at the hottie through the barrel...
@@tonyfei472 - Like me,she could stand behind me..smiles.I use a laser pointer to calibrate my scope (old cross hair) for 200 yards..lands within the second ring to bullseye..
I watch some of your older videos…I always learn something and, perhaps even more importantly, I usually laugh a little bit…the outtakes are pretty funny… you’re funny! Thanks for both!
If you watch this video enough times you'll eventually start to notice that the woman is talking. Once you get past that point and are able to hear her, great video! yay guns!
Kirsten you are an amazing shooter and excellent instructor, Biggest issue I see with shooters is form and trigger pull. Great coverage of cant and its effect. You also gave a wonderful aspect to the World of Tanks game with the powerful description of the Battle of Dunkirk. Brings a whole new meaning to playing the game and reenactments. Thanks!
You were a secret gamer...not any more! I have never been a secret gamer, it's just something I can't hide! Keep gaming and keep shooting. And keep filming!
Randorita Not much of a secret, but yes very subtle about it. There are some hints in past videos. Mainly mentioning/referencing games (CoD, BF) and using a xbox 360 controller for b-roll footage in one of her videos.
I had a 14 year old this last weekend who has a habit of closing his eyes when firing his rifle. I have worked with him before. I started him out with my Mossberg MVP bolt in 5.56. (55 gr. BTSP) He improved his shooting routine. I moved up to my Mossberg Patriot 243 100 gr. BTSP and he settled down, hitting the x ring every shot. We moved to his Savage Axis bolt in 270 and he was greatly improved. He had a built in fear of recoil and by moving up slowly he managed to correct the fault.
Kristen: The most common fault I find with shooters is they anticipate the recoil and either push the rifle forward slightly or close their eyes or do both. I have corrected this fault in many shooters and next year they come back and tell me their deer harvest story. It's great.
Very informative video, I used to have some issues with cant, especially when I was using the Harris bipod since there's a lot of lateral movement that can creep in with it if it isn't tighten down super tight. I've worked on it and I think I've gotten better and I got one of the Accu-Levels put on my longer range stuff to make sure it doesn't creep back in. Appreciate all the work you do for gun rights and the wonderful videos; on behalf of all of us out there you have our tanks ;)
I'm a firearms instructor. The most common thing I see is that the shooter was taught to "squeeze" the trigger. As they to this, they increase their grip pressure which pulls sight alignment off. I shake hands and demonstrate holding the second, third and pinky finger steady and move the trigger finger slow and steady. Let the discharge be a surprise.
What a great tip!!! I have a bipod where it cants a few degrees each way and I lean on those cants when I get tired to steady my rifle. I had no ideas this was why I was missing. THANK YOU!!!!!
I have just recently become aware of canting. As a result I have been very precise in mounting a new scope. Your TH-cam video is highly informative and I have passed it on. Enjoyed the knowledge.
When I was a boy I joined the Junior NRA. We used Winchester model 52s. The first lesson I learned was about gun cant and cheek to stock placement. This lesson has served me well over the years.
The Illustrations are fantastic! Will be sharing your vids. Great job!!! Glad you mentioned people who naturally hold the rifle canted. All the other videos leave this out and teach to strictly mount a scope using levels and shoot with a mounted level. While that works perfectly, I dont have time to level when hunting moving game. I mount all my scopes level on top of an already canted rifle... my natural hunting position. My rifle naturally cants as I fit it into my shoulder pocket. Alluding to your video on cheek weld (spot on tip!), my custom cheek weld pad (cohesive bandage over cut pieces of GI sleeping mat... military trick) keeps me naturally consistent. A trained eye becomes the "bubble level."
Kirsten, all I can say is "Wow!!!" You are the first female I have seen explain shooting accuracy with precision base on scientific facts. Oh, it does help you are gorgeous with a beautiful smile makes listening and learning from you about shooting accuracy more fun.😉😊😄
My bullets always seem to warp space-time and hit in another dimension. Occasionally they don't do that and those are the ones that actually make holes in my intended target. I know this because I would never miss.
Great explanation of cant. It was my biggest issue on the range in the Corps. I know it was the culprit in most of my dropped points. Dunkirk was awesome. As was Churchill.
If you're still sponsored by Lapua, you should do an extreme long range video with a 338 Lapua. Explain what's involved and such. Yes, there are some videos out there that do it, but they sound more like lectures and take a while. You tend to get the point across in a much smaller video. Besides.....I'd like to see what you're capable of past 1000 yards :)
Kirsten: I work with new and young first time hunters to correct their "fear of recoil" When gripping the stock or pistol grip, most shooters will tighten their grip to hold the rifle. This is very similar to tightening the grip when pulling the trigger on a pistol. The pistol or rifle tends to shoot low on target. I teach that they ought to hold the stock or grip with the thumb, middle, third and pinky fingers only and let the trigger finger be sort of free floating. That way, "squeezing" the trigger doesn't increase grip pressure. What do you think?
Sounds like good advice to me. It depends on the sport and gun and what pressure is needed most where. Almost anything done consistently (even some "mistakes"!) can get decent results. Problem is that some actions are harder to do consistently than others. For, say, prone rifle with a sling, the grip hand doesnt really need to be tight, but in pistol, of course, it needs to be controlled more because that is your only contact point to your body. So your advice to them for pistol is good, and there's always the coordination of squeezing the trigger, and not the grip suddenly *as* you squeeze the trigger in pretty much any gun for accuracy :D
I know why I miss. It is when I have not practiced for a while and when I first start shooting again I tend to anticipate the recoil and 'flinch' just enough to send the shot askew. As for canting the gun, on my sniper rifles I have a level by the scope's eye piece. Yes, canting can send your round off a bit especially at long ranges. This video did a good job of addressing this issue of canting a rifle. It does not have a huge effect at short ranges like 100 yards. But at 500 - 1000 yards, oh boy. Big effect. The other issue is improperly mounted scopes. You need to check that the action is level then level the crosshairs to the action. But, most errors I see in long range shooting stems from anticipating recoil. I found that practicing with snap caps can help reduce this issue. Also, mixing snap caps with live rounds can add that surprise effect and get one to eventually stop anticipating the recoil. We were always taught to give the trigger a constant even pull and that the shot should go off as a surprise as opposed to jerking the trigger as I see most local hunters do. These trigger jerkers are also the same guys who have a hard time hitting within an 8" target with a .243 at 100 yards.
Good points. Not just range, but also weapon and choice of ammo affect this as well. (.243 vs 45-70) Good advice on the snap caps... we use this to correct for flinching and trigger jerking as you call it. Best to have someone else load your magazine so you have no idea which rounds will be duds. Sometimes we leave the duds out, because they start anticipating the duds. lol Another problem with flinching is caused by people that want to shoot a more powerful caliber than they can handle. Most people can handle a decent amount of recoil if they build up to it... some folks feel the need to jump from 9mm to 44mag., .243 up to .300 win. mag., etc.
Funny that I found this video today. I shot with a scope mounted bubble level today for the first time and found out that I tilt my rifle slightly to the left. Paid attention to the level and adjusted accordingly, and had much better accuracy. Keep up the great content!
Said it before you did and thats why all my mid-long range guns or those with a hpvo have levels on them to help keep me honest. You my dear besides having a good grip on shooting mechanics, have a BEAUTIFUL SMILE 😍!
I consider myself a pretty good shooter and I just learned something . Thank you, great visuals, I always avoided using the bubble levels that come with some optics. Thanks!
I'm not sure how anyone could not know the things in this beginning of beginner's video, and consider themselves "pretty good". Dunning Kruger in full force, I guess.
Good tip! Cant is one of the fundamentals of long range shooting, of which I have studied a lot, but probably wont get to practice. Being consistent and steady is a huge benefit to "shooting straight". Enjoy the videos, looking good, keep em coming!
I must say i didn't put to much attention to it before. Heard of it, read that it mess with your precision...but never had a REAL explanations for the effect it can cause. So now that i'm gun smarter!! all because of you :) I will definitely pay more attention to gun cant and avoid it. So thanx again for your funny, but serious teaching (does that makes sense???). Keep up the good work!!
I need to be schooled on the "Earth Spinning" when aiming north to south or Visa versa. Ive watched; Pro Globe Spinning Earth firing tests "That Prove the need to compensate AND many that prove you dont? In essence; IF the earth IS Spinning you must adjust?
I seemed to have missed this portion of instruction during my 24 + 1/2 Years of serving in the U.S. Army . It would seem to me that if I am on planet earth , then as she turns , so am I , on the earth , so I am not quite following the "thinking" on this . . .
@@georgeward6074 When the bullet leaves the muzzle, the Earth is rotating beneath it. At long distances this matters and you do need to compensate for it, along with wind speed/direction, air pressure, temperature, humidity (air density basically) variations along the flight path. At 50 metres (ISSF rules) the rotation of the Earth is nothing to worry about. The wind is your main worry but you also have mirage to think about in warmer conditions.
I love your training tips videos. Please share your expertise and practice exercises as you obviously have honed skills that us regular shooters can learn from. Thank you.
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Great video ,No annoying music spoke clear and slow enough to follow and to the point ,no filler BS./ wish they were all like that on youtube
Consistent eye placement when looking through the scope is also critical. Great video!
This is why no scope shadow is wrong. In precision/long range shooting world you MUST have a consistent width scope shadow all the way around. This is the only way to ensure your eye placement is centered and consistent every time
So figured out I was naturally canting my rifle, and added a level to my scope. Groups have gotten tighter for sure. Now I’m having to break this bad habit I’ve ingrained!
When you started shooting you must have been a great listener. You are very experienced and have mastered the difficult sport of shooting. I take my hat off to you. Oh, you are able to explain/describe shooting principals in your instruction clearly. Very few coaches can do that. You have put a lot into your instruction dialog and it works well for you. Again great shooter and great coach.
I've never thought about tilting error :) thanks for the lesson !
I read the Great War manual for shooting the LE. 303 and the first thing they say is having the rifle vertical.
Gun level isn't important: it's the optic that HAS to be level. Like the lady said, some shooters build cant into the rifle to have a better fit in the pocket (say goodbye to any weak side shooting, but if you don't expect to shoot on your weak side, go for it). Every scope should have a bubble.
With a long enough barrel or low enough scope mount, you can see the end of the barrel move off center.
Get a scope level
and what if it's not tilted? now what? she didn't really give a full lesson on POA vs POI.
Miss Kirsten. You 100% solved my problem. Every video on TH-cam says I’m not using enough trigger finger. That’s all. You’re the only one speaking about cant. Thank you so much.
Most important at long range 300 and out . I keep a short level in my shooting bag and level my target before stapling it to the stop then I can use the edge of the target with my cross hairs even at 600 meters where I cant see the lines on the target . It is important to have your scope aligned with the center of your rifle when mounting it also . Thanks Kirstin great video . And thanks for all your support in the fight to keep our gun rights , so important .
This is the second of your videos I've watched. Again, I'm so very impressed by the complete clarity of your presentation: lucid, well-spoken, no wasted words. I contrast that to innumerable videos by folks who babble and blather off the tops of their heads! So: brava!
An easy training fix is to mount a scope level when you sight the rifle in...leave the level on the gun when you shoot and practice holding the gun level while shooting until it becomes natural...could take a while for some people and not so long for others...but it does work 🙂 keep up the great videos Kirsten...your knowledge is invaluable to the gun community 👍🏻
Incredible. We’ve never met and you’ve never seen me shoot Yet you’re comfortable enough to tell me why I miss. Thank you sooooo much!
Me at the range telling myself, "I think I can, I think I can!"
Shoots and misses.
Me now using the excuse, "Yes I can, but my "gun cant...".
Thanks Kirsten! Long-time subscriber and fan.
Your delivery of this video tells me you know more about what you are talking about than most would think. Watching your eyes I could tell you were not just reading off a teleprompter with rehearsal. Your eyes wandered off while you were talking like you were seeing something and still producing your video. Tells me you know your stuff Kirsten! Oh and you have mesmerizing eyes on top of all that. Great video, and cantering shots is something I was less aware of.
Well thank you!! Yeah, I don't use teleprompter. Sometimes I think maybe I should! lol
I've spent A LOT of hours and years training and learning different aspects of shooting. I appreciate your observation, thank you
5:16 “Plumb” is vertical. “Level” is horizontal.
So ; ya had to correct her , ya feel better now , she still shoots better than you
Darren Jones You’re just jealous that you didn’t get to her first.
@@danielholtxxl4936 I got water if you need some
That was an excellent video. Here's what I did so hopefully it helps someone. I bought a wheeler scope level system but I only used half of the kit. What I did was leveled my rifle as best I could, then I used a fishing string hanging from the ceiling. Shine a flashlight through the front of the scope, so backwards, and shined the reticle on the wall. Lined my reticle to the plumb Bob of the string, then tightened the scope down. Rifle, scope, level method. After I rechecked several times, I added a Vortex scope bubble level. Verified it to the rifle level and locked it down on my scope. Rifle, scope, level.
Great job. You explained it perfectly.
Thank you!
No, tank you for that awesome presentation!
You are spot on with canting. We used spirit levels on our Sharps rifles shooting long range BPCR matches as... well “being a half a bubble off” is the difference between a hit or miss. I have carried this over to my scoped long range center fire rifles because as you pointed out, not canting your rifle is critical. Another observation is the unusual knack for people to mount their optics with a few degrees tilt. Lefties tend to lean the crosshairs left and righties to the right. Most shooters don’t see it until they hand their rifle to another shooter to try out.
I love your videos and they are always informative.
Thank you!
I learned this the hard way when shooting competitively in high school. I thought it wouldn't be an issue if I did it consistently, but matching the same angle every time we went out, or even shot to shot was impossible.
It's easy to replicate level, not so much for an arbitrary angle.
Thanks for the advice Kirsten. I've noticed some people have a spirit level on their scope or mount. This explains it. Glad you mentioned Dunkirk. My senior term paper in high school was on Dunkirk. It was a miraculous evacuation. Winston Churchill used the event to challenge the English on to victory in WWII.
Imagine the dance card backlog this beautiful woman has after months of Covid lockdown. Glad to see she’s humble enough to include bloopers. So many women these days will take 100 selfies & pass it as one original shot. Nice job mom & dad!
Think of it this way, if you draw a vertical line through your bore and sights, that is the plane that the bullet will rise through. If that plane is perfectly vertical. the bullet will rise and then fall through the exact same plane (wind and spin drift excluded). If you cant the gun to the left then that line cants to the left as well and the bullet rises to the left but falls straight down rather than staying in the same plane as your line. Vice versa to the right. Your line must be parallel with the pull of gravity which may not be perpendicular with the horizon, that's why those little bubble levels that attach to your rifle can be handy. As Kirsten points out, a good marksman will assure that the rifle (line) is vertical and do it every time. With practice you can instinctively estimate vertical with a high degree of accuracy.
Sir, thank you for your excellent example using the plane - I now understand the effect of canting the rifle.
@@vanya757 I was an expert rifleman and rifle range coach in the Marine Corps. I enjoy helping people to learn to shoot well. Non-shooters tend to think you just pick up a gun, point it, pull the trigger, and your bullet will hit the target because that's the way it happens in the movies... in the real world, good shooting requires knowledge and skill. Anti-gunners don't understand that hitting that target is the successful combination of the two and that it is fun to learn, practice, and succeed.
First of your videos I’ve seen! Blown away. Very intelligent woman who speaks well. And obviously knows her topics! Sub’d.
Excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to film and edit it and of course for positing it for our benefit. Keep up the good work! -Migs
True. She get to the point. Better than most other videos.
Greetings from Berlin, Germany! I love your channel, it ´s very informativ and enjoyable for me. It´s not easy in germany to discover videos as yours.
Oh. I am astonished!!! How is it reality!!! A very pretty and young lady with a nice voice, good language and pronunciation, speaking about my favorirte subject (shooting) . It is like a beautiful dream!!!!!!!
TyrannosaurusDVM you can find more like us at your local range 😉
What range is that?? Just a bunch of old guys at mine.
i feel you!!!
Thank you so much for bringing to my attention how important scope cant is!!! Some times shooting from a range bag in the prone position is uneven and has been causing me problems shooting long distances! I'm glad I found your
web cast!
Never thought about canting the gun...but it now makes perfect sense and something that needs to be considered as much as keeping your eye on the front sight. Thank you!!
This was good teaching on cant and trajectory. Thanks again for making shooting more fun. Stay true and keep your eyes on the target.
Awesome, glad it helped!
Kirsten Joy Weiss could you do a video and accuracy test a Tavor X95 someone of your marksmanship should be able to tell it's it's the rifle or the shooter.
I enjoyed the video and subbed. I am 62 years old and shoot Airguns a lot. There is a least one Airgun rated scope that has a built in level. That is the level can be see in the scope picture at 6 O'clock, I have thought about purchasing it for my grand-kids to use. I don't know for sure if I "cant", but I know can and I am consistent too, so I don't need it myself. It is the UTG bubble leveler 4-16x56 AO Scope
For me, it's usually because I'm distracted by the pretty girl on lane #5
There is no cure for that.
Murica 1776 take your wife. I have found it cures a lot of looking, not just at women at the range but also guns I want and don't need.
I am pretty sure a wife is the cure. Or a wife has the cure for it? it's one or the other, I have been happily married for so long I forget which. :^)
WAT!
It works for guys and gals.
If we werent suppose to look, God have made us blind or them ugly.
Life happens. Get over the jealousy.
Well heck!! that explains the difference from my bench shooting to my off-hand shooting. I've been resting the rifle in my shoulder and shots are low right with a good group.... back to the drawing board. This is why I love shooting. Thanks Kirsten!!
Intelligent, beautiful and deadly perfect combo! I am actually a shooter who can't my rifle left in towards my body quite a bit. Now is 0 to 300 yards I was able to hit deer with my 308 consistently and never have to follow up a shot. However I started shooting competition airguns and since learned to level my scope and train myself to hold the gun straight. With an air rifle all of my inconsistencies were magnified. Maybe cover trigger tecniques too? Great video and gives me hope maybe someday I'll find a girl that enjoys shooting as much as I do! Keep up the good work!
Whatever you say it’s not only right due to your professionalism but also beautiful!
Thank you very much!
Thank you and God bless, I have always had a problem with canting my rifle, and getting my scope to perfectly set and level on top. Due to my fat head I guess. I appreciate the explanation of how that works. I have a WWII German K98 with a period correct scope on it I have been trying to get sighted in, it's been fun. I know the rifle is quite accurate, but with my old eyes, shooting in braille is no fun hence the need for the scope. Again thanks, and God bless you.
Shooting in braille (lol)
I've watched several long range/ 'gun cant' videos today, and was having a little trouble understanding why cant was so important. The analogy of the artillery cannon lobbing the bullet up and over the line of sight made a light bulb go on over my head. I get it now. Plus I can see better in my dark basement because of the extra light. Thanks KJW!
Extending the parameters of a problem to the extreme edges of it's range is often helpful to understand what subtleties are happening near the middle. If you still don't quite get it, take this illustration even farther, as I did. The line of sight through the scope to the target is a straight line like a laser beam, and for simplicity, imagine that it is level. In a normal situation, the rifle barrel is angled upward, pointing above the target to 'lob' the projectile up above the line of sight. Gravity pulls the projectile back down in an arc to the target. Imagine what would happen if you laid the rifle/scope on its left side - a 90 degree left cant. With the line of sight still on the target, the rifle barrel would now be pointed left of the target instead of above it, and there would be zero upward angle to the barrel. Gravity is no longer acting to pull the bullet to the target - it's just pulling it towards the ground along it's trajectory - which is to the left of the target. It's easy to see that the bullet will go WAY left and low.
Yes! I'm glad the visuals & analogy helps
Thanks for explaining this. I never understood before why everyone had this obsession with avoiding rifle cant, but I get it now!
The farther you shoot the more pronounced the effects are.
You're right... Never even thought this would be a significant modifier. Great work
You have very informative and professional videos, you voice is just to calming and relaxing it puts me to sleep in the middle of the day.
That is a very good point. Can't is fairly easy to overlook.
Other thing I found is shooters focus on the target and not the reticle.
In my experience, most people "think" they fired a clean shot but they actually slightly jerked the trigger. Especially with new shooters thinking that a 1lb trigger pull will improve their groups.
Your knowledge is mesmerizing.
I had just managed to learn this a couple of days ago, a week after restoring, reassembling, and scoping up an old air rifle. My newbie butt noticed after some time that the gun has an extreme cant/tilt to the right while the scope was previously set to the horizon by my father.
The concept sunk in my mind after i tried to shoot close range and the shot went low and left (instead of the expected only low) and then i figured out how critical it is that the crosshair vertical axis is colinear with the barrel, and if i continued with the setup it would be unreliable at longer range. Wish i saw this earlier, great and helpful video!
You me lady...produce a first rate video. You communicate everything that needs to be said. The way it needs to be said. Which is in a clean, clear, streight foward intellectual manner.
I subcribed.
Thank you, good sir
I agree!
I've been looking for a good channel that covers this style of precision shooting for years and i've finally found it.
Awesome!
Kirsten,
In your personal experience, is it better for someone to shoot an inch too short, or an inch too long?
It is great how you explained this. It made more sense than some of my firearms instructors did. Be safe and shoot straight.
If I took a perfect shot and I missed, I blame the rifle, and ammo, and bi-pods, and the weather, and the fart I just did...
...and you'd be right...
This is funny
@Tony Fei - Why they missed..they was looking at the hottie and not the target..
@@cynthiaclarke3979 Through the scope? Then let's pray their shooting hand is controlled so there can be no accident of bang at the hottie through the barrel...
@@tonyfei472 - Like me,she could stand behind me..smiles.I use a laser pointer to calibrate my scope (old cross hair) for 200 yards..lands within the second ring to bullseye..
I watch some of your older videos…I always learn something and, perhaps even more importantly, I usually laugh a little bit…the outtakes are pretty funny… you’re funny! Thanks for both!
Great video Kristen! Aim true!
Thank you! :)
good explanation, thanks Kirsten for sharing your video
Awesome explained. Tried to tell my friends that forever. Seems like it doesn't sink in sometimes. Thanks.
If you watch this video enough times you'll eventually start to notice that the woman is talking. Once you get past that point and are able to hear her, great video! yay guns!
Are you SURE she's talking ???
Legend 😀👍😆
Kirsten you are an amazing shooter and excellent instructor, Biggest issue I see with shooters is form and trigger pull.
Great coverage of cant and its effect. You also gave a wonderful aspect to the World of Tanks game with the powerful description of the Battle of Dunkirk. Brings a whole new meaning to playing the game and reenactments. Thanks!
You were a secret gamer...not any more! I have never been a secret gamer, it's just something I can't hide! Keep gaming and keep shooting. And keep filming!
Oh no! oops :D
Randorita Not much of a secret, but yes very subtle about it. There are some hints in past videos. Mainly mentioning/referencing games (CoD, BF) and using a xbox 360 controller for b-roll footage in one of her videos.
Kirsten Joy Weiss Any chance of playing with fans some day? ;)
maybe!
Randorita 1
I had a 14 year old this last weekend who has a habit of closing his eyes when firing his rifle. I have worked with him before. I started him out with my Mossberg MVP bolt in 5.56. (55 gr. BTSP) He improved his shooting routine. I moved up to my Mossberg Patriot 243 100 gr. BTSP and he settled down, hitting the x ring every shot. We moved to his Savage Axis bolt in 270 and he was greatly improved. He had a built in fear of recoil and by moving up slowly he managed to correct the fault.
Thanks for vids like this. I'm just starting out and this will help me enjoy it more instead of throwing it away like my golf clubs!
Kristen: The most common fault I find with shooters is they anticipate the recoil and either push the rifle forward slightly or close their eyes or do both. I have corrected this fault in many shooters and next year they come back and tell me their deer harvest story. It's great.
Does Walmart sell deer though?..lol..
Very informative video, I used to have some issues with cant, especially when I was using the Harris bipod since there's a lot of lateral movement that can creep in with it if it isn't tighten down super tight. I've worked on it and I think I've gotten better and I got one of the Accu-Levels put on my longer range stuff to make sure it doesn't creep back in. Appreciate all the work you do for gun rights and the wonderful videos; on behalf of all of us out there you have our tanks ;)
tanks. Lol :) cool that you've been aware of this and working it through methodically
I'm a firearms instructor. The most common thing I see is that the shooter was taught to "squeeze" the trigger. As they to this, they increase their grip pressure which pulls sight alignment off. I shake hands and demonstrate holding the second, third and pinky finger steady and move the trigger finger slow and steady. Let the discharge be a surprise.
damn you’re right i never thought about that before. thanks for the info
What a great tip!!! I have a bipod where it cants a few degrees each way and I lean on those cants when I get tired to steady my rifle. I had no ideas this was why I was missing. THANK YOU!!!!!
Practical shooting advice from someone with the background to back it up? More please.
haha, thank you RIAC :)
I have just recently become aware of canting. As a result I have been very precise in mounting a new scope. Your TH-cam video is highly informative and I have passed it on. Enjoyed the knowledge.
Great explanation, but I could not help thinking "Gun Cant, is when the shooter cant, LOL"
When I was a boy I joined the Junior NRA. We used Winchester model 52s. The first lesson I learned was about gun cant and cheek to stock placement. This lesson has served me well over the years.
How did I miss this channel for so long? Subbed!
This is exactly what I needed. Issues shooting my old WW2 rifle, this will resolve my issues.
Yep, those little scope mounted bubble levels are really handy sometimes!
I run those scope bubbles on my hunting and sporting systems.
Those are handy and make sure the round goes where it should.
Love Your Channel. Keep up the great work.
Never thought about that, makes a lot of since. Thanks for the tip I will check that at my next shoot.
The Illustrations are fantastic! Will be sharing your vids. Great job!!! Glad you mentioned people who naturally hold the rifle canted. All the other videos leave this out and teach to strictly mount a scope using levels and shoot with a mounted level. While that works perfectly, I dont have time to level when hunting moving game.
I mount all my scopes level on top of an already canted rifle... my natural hunting position. My rifle naturally cants as I fit it into my shoulder pocket. Alluding to your video on cheek weld (spot on tip!), my custom cheek weld pad (cohesive bandage over cut pieces of GI sleeping mat... military trick) keeps me naturally consistent. A trained eye becomes the "bubble level."
Kirsten, all I can say is "Wow!!!"
You are the first female I have seen explain shooting accuracy with precision base on scientific facts.
Oh, it does help you are gorgeous with a beautiful smile makes listening and learning from you about shooting accuracy more fun.😉😊😄
This presentation was very well done, I especially like the illustrations, that breaks it down very nicely.
My bullets always seem to warp space-time and hit in another dimension. Occasionally they don't do that and those are the ones that actually make holes in my intended target. I know this because I would never miss.
Thank you Kristen. I've been shooting for many years, never thought about the tilt. Now back to the range for me. :)
Kristen, thank you for this great piece of advice. You rock!
Great explanation of cant. It was my biggest issue on the range in the Corps. I know it was the culprit in most of my dropped points.
Dunkirk was awesome.
As was Churchill.
If you're still sponsored by Lapua, you should do an extreme long range video with a 338 Lapua. Explain what's involved and such. Yes, there are some videos out there that do it, but they sound more like lectures and take a while. You tend to get the point across in a much smaller video. Besides.....I'd like to see what you're capable of past 1000 yards :)
Kirsten: I work with new and young first time hunters to correct their "fear of recoil" When gripping the stock or pistol grip, most shooters will tighten their grip to hold the rifle. This is very similar to tightening the grip when pulling the trigger on a pistol. The pistol or rifle tends to shoot low on target. I teach that they ought to hold the stock or grip with the thumb, middle, third and pinky fingers only and let the trigger finger be sort of free floating. That way, "squeezing" the trigger doesn't increase grip pressure. What do you think?
Sounds like good advice to me. It depends on the sport and gun and what pressure is needed most where. Almost anything done consistently (even some "mistakes"!) can get decent results. Problem is that some actions are harder to do consistently than others. For, say, prone rifle with a sling, the grip hand doesnt really need to be tight, but in pistol, of course, it needs to be controlled more because that is your only contact point to your body. So your advice to them for pistol is good, and there's always the coordination of squeezing the trigger, and not the grip suddenly *as* you squeeze the trigger in pretty much any gun for accuracy :D
Awesome instructional shooting video. You're the best. Thanks for sharing.
A very good explanation of perfect aiming. Kirsten excellent job of shooting!
Beautiful vampire that shoots great. Wasnt this a movie
I love her teeth, makes her look tough and badass.
I know why I miss. It is when I have not practiced for a while
and when I first start shooting again I tend to anticipate the recoil
and 'flinch' just enough to send the shot askew. As for canting the gun,
on my sniper rifles I have a level by the scope's eye piece. Yes, canting can
send your round off a bit especially at long ranges.
This video did a good job of addressing this issue of canting a
rifle. It does not have a huge effect at short ranges like 100 yards.
But at 500 - 1000 yards, oh boy. Big effect. The other issue is improperly
mounted scopes. You need to check that the action is level then level the
crosshairs to the action. But, most errors I see in long range shooting
stems from anticipating recoil. I found that practicing with snap caps
can help reduce this issue. Also, mixing snap caps with live rounds can
add that surprise effect and get one to eventually stop anticipating the recoil.
We were always taught to give the trigger a constant even pull and that the shot
should go off as a surprise as opposed to jerking the trigger as I see most local
hunters do. These trigger jerkers are also the same guys who have
a hard time hitting within an 8" target with a .243 at 100 yards.
Good points. Not just range, but also weapon and choice of ammo affect this as well. (.243 vs 45-70) Good advice on the snap caps... we use this to correct for flinching and trigger jerking as you call it. Best to have someone else load your magazine so you have no idea which rounds will be duds. Sometimes we leave the duds out, because they start anticipating the duds. lol
Another problem with flinching is caused by people that want to shoot a more powerful caliber than they can handle.
Most people can handle a decent amount of recoil if they build up to it... some folks feel the need to jump from 9mm to 44mag., .243 up to .300 win. mag., etc.
great vid explaining an age old problem.. although I knew this,i watched anyway, reinforceing the essentials of consistent gun control . 😉
Funny that I found this video today. I shot with a scope mounted bubble level today for the first time and found out that I tilt my rifle slightly to the left. Paid attention to the level and adjusted accordingly, and had much better accuracy. Keep up the great content!
Thanks Kirsten - another lesson to show my cadet team. I have made your videos required watching.
Great! Glad to help
I bet it's like pulling teeth tryin to get em to watch it, isn't it? Lol
Said it before you did and thats why all my mid-long range guns or those with a hpvo have levels on them to help keep me honest. You my dear besides having a good grip on shooting mechanics, have a BEAUTIFUL SMILE 😍!
I consider myself a pretty good shooter and I just learned something . Thank you, great visuals, I always avoided using the bubble levels that come with some optics. Thanks!
I'm not sure how anyone could not know the things in this beginning of beginner's video, and consider themselves "pretty good". Dunning Kruger in full force, I guess.
@@jeffreytackett3922 ahh an asshole. Welcome here, lots of you guys here you’ll fit in nicely.
@@watchguy79 As I've adequately demonstrated, one can be both an "asshole", and "accurate", at the same time. Take care of yourself, shooter.
Good tip! Cant is one of the fundamentals of long range shooting, of which I have studied a lot, but probably wont get to practice. Being consistent and steady is a huge benefit to "shooting straight". Enjoy the videos, looking good, keep em coming!
Wow she’s Smart and Pretty. Her knowledge on gun is a Bonus!😘
Very good video Kirsten. Well done!
My day is 100% more awesome cuz of your upload! Keep up the great work! N I swear WG has been getting everywhere now days
That comments makes mine :)
Kirsten Joy Weiss :D awesome! Hell of an honor to be making your day!
I must say i didn't put to much attention to it before. Heard of it, read that it mess with your precision...but never had a REAL explanations for the effect it can cause. So now that i'm gun smarter!! all because of you :) I will definitely pay more attention to gun cant and avoid it. So thanx again for your funny, but serious teaching (does that makes sense???). Keep up the good work!!
haha, yes it does. So glad it helped!
Those fangs!! Couldn’t take my eyes away. Amazing
Pablo Ruelas I’m team Kristin for sure
Watching this video in 2021 brings her t-shirt message to a whole new meaning. Great video!
I need to be schooled on the "Earth Spinning" when aiming north to south or Visa versa.
Ive watched; Pro Globe Spinning Earth firing tests "That Prove the need to compensate AND many that prove you dont?
In essence; IF the earth IS Spinning you must adjust?
I seemed to have missed this portion of instruction during my 24 + 1/2 Years of serving in the U.S. Army . It would seem to me that if I am on planet earth , then as she turns , so am I , on the earth , so I am not quite following the "thinking" on this . . .
@@georgeward6074 When the bullet leaves the muzzle, the Earth is rotating beneath it. At long distances this matters and you do need to compensate for it, along with wind speed/direction, air pressure, temperature, humidity (air density basically) variations along the flight path. At 50 metres (ISSF rules) the rotation of the Earth is nothing to worry about. The wind is your main worry but you also have mirage to think about in warmer conditions.
I watched this video almost three years ago, and watched it again just now, because it's great information. That, and just dig it.
Had to “unlike” this so I could “like” it again!
Nice play dude!
Great vid. Thanks. Happy New year!
Great video I learned something by accident that I was doing by accident.
I love your training tips videos. Please share your expertise and practice exercises as you obviously have honed skills that us regular shooters can learn from. Thank you.