The KRISS Vector Gen 2 -FULL REVIEW
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You can actually shoulder the weapon with the brace. ATF doesn't classify shooting position as a change in the design of the brace/weapon.
They don't anymore, but at the time of filming this video they did consider it an illegal act(When in the public eye, it's best to error on the side of caution).
I totally understand that. Just started watching your videos. Loving them. Keep up the good work. I am right across the state line in Louisiana if you ever head that way, or need some "help" hehe.
i was just looking for this comment cause I thought the same.
@@Joshohoho same
Another reason why most lawful gun owners HATE the ATF. They are constantly creating and enforcing arbitrary and unconstitutional gun laws.
Your reviews are thorough, fun, professional, and amazingly entertaining
Keep on keepin on man
Thank you! I appreciate the support and kind words! Lot of time and money goes into making them.
GY6vids I agree, keep it up Andrew, GY6 is part of my routine while relaxing at the end of the day. Keep em comin brother.
Jeremiah Brown
I agree.I really enjoy his videos,you can get a real sense of what it would be like to actually shoot the weapon through the way he explains himself.
I think he should get a Account with patreon.com.
Adam Bird yeah maybe he should man, ID donate some cash for useable knowledge
Dylan Shiflet 6 '
stock touches your shoulder. gets swatted on sight
Thank God i live in Canada.
@@wavular yeah but you have your own problems.
Mr Man ya thank god we gotta register the short barrel one or get the dumb non restricted 18.5 inch barrel with the fake suppressor/shroud over it
FIND THIS MAN'S 🐕
Thats why you gotta be in the fuckin arctic or desert when shooting
Just pickup up the Gen 2 in .45 myself. According to the user manual, the Vector should only be loaded with the bolt locked back. Thought I would point that out. Also like you mentioned and to anyone reading this: a vertical grip (recommend Magpul RVG) is practically a must.
Thanks
The Vector's recoil reduction system and the AK-107's recoil counterbalance systems are the biggest innovations in firearms since the STG-44.
I found it to not be innovative. Yes, there is less vertical recoil(which i find easier to control), but now theres more horizontal recoil (which is harder to control).
I have an amazing idea:
Kriss Vector, .50 cal edition.
Monstdrewfett™ it can't take it
M8, they can try and design a type of Vector that can, but it will probably be 10 times larger than the normal Vector.
modz?
Monstdrewfett™ if you want to be realistic maybe 50 beuwolf
Tim shufflebottom Beowulf cartridge is to big... it would have to be .50 AE to fit in this plateform but they might have to beef up the receiver to handle it
As a non-American, the regulation surrounding firearms in the US sounds hilarious to me. You are not allowed to put the "pistol" brace on your shoulder according to the NFA. I am just wondering, what if someone holding a "pistol" with a "brace" happened to be caught in the middle out a shootout? Should he violates the law by resting the "brace" in his shoulder to improve the handling of the weapon like any stock supposed function as or should he respect the law and try firing with certain catch and limitations in firing an SMG-designed firearm like a "pistol"?
Let's say he chooses to violate the law and neutralize the bad guys. Will he then be "decorated" as hero or branded as a criminal?
My questions are pure curiosity, I ave no intention to make fun of this beautiful video or any laws whatsoever.
I doubt anyone was charged with shouldering a brace. But that's why governments have laws. So they can pick and choose who goes to jail.
@@spraynpray Braces have been on the market for less than a decade. We have yet to see.
wonder how long till we see a 7.62/5.56 version..
that doesnt even make since, its a sytem built around a pistol cartridge, its not designed around rifle rounds, thats what rifles are for
Jonah Patton
thinking like that won't ever get it accomplished. .it IS possible, and I bet we'll see it in the next 10 years. if not from Kriss, I bet keltec would be up for the challenge. Hell, I already have a pretty good idea of how to make it happen. if you had talked about polymers and bullpups 50 years ago, you would have been laughed at also. .
Trigger Talk
+Trigger Talk im not sure you understand. you wont see a pistol caliber carbine (which is what the kriss is) chambered in a rifle cartridge. thats what rifles are for, battle rifles, assault rifles, sniper rifles, hunting rifles, pistols, and pistol caliber carbines are designed around their purpose, and the cartridge they're chambered in. why would somebody take a gun designed for 23mm long cartridges get rechambered to handle 39, 45, and 51mm long cartridges, that gun offers no advantage over any existing platform. it doesnt make sense
Jonah Patton
lol.. trust me. I understand.
I love my Gen 1. It came with a foregrip eliminating all the issues you went through about the hand position.
Now it's time for KRISS to make a rifle caliber version...
t rice i remember back then they had planned a pistol, shotgun, and .50 cal machine gun that used the same recoil system however they dropped the projects as far as I can tell
I want a kiss vector in 30 carbine.
Not possible.
They really should make Siege's V308 into a reality...
Lol the uses of a suppressor "hand warmer" I fkin love it. I subb'd up man thanks for the review. Definitely comprehensive and thorough.
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I've watched your videos for some time now, but this is probably the best one that I've seen. I tend to get bored with boring review videos, but this was fun to watch, as are the rest of your videos. Keep it up!
Update to the atf you can shoulder the sig brace now there is no set way to hold a pistol.
Yes, most of us are very aware. At the time of the filming of this video though....it was not.
Excellent video. I just bought a 9mm rifle version of the vector and I love it, but every one of your cons is something I have personally experienced. At first I thought my mags weren't locking in correctly because they kept falling out. Then I realized what you did, my hand was dropping them. So I moved my hand forward, then the bolt hold wasn't working... again, it was my hand, so I moved it again and THEN the bolt would lock open during firing... all because my hand was actuating the controls during firing. I installed a Magpul RVG and boom... all problems went away and the gun is flawless.
one thing to note that I think you missed is that the grip takes magpul grip inserts. Battery holders, oil bottles etc. Which I thought was pretty cool. Ive been told the Vector likes to be run wet... if thats true, the magpul oil bottle insert would be very handy.
I had the original Vector in 45acp. I didnt find that gun nearly as pleasant to shoot as the 9mm. Im canadian so ours are all semi of course, but I fired a full auto vector at Big Gun Fun in West Yellowstone montana and it was absolutely incredible. If you want to understand just how impressive the Super V system really is, try a full auto in 45...
Thanks for the video and keep up the good work.
Nfa regulation. looks like a rifle stock, feels like a rifle stock, handles like a rifle stock, NOT a rifle tock. its a pistol brace.
i bought one of these when they first were introduced, i could not get over the cons as you mentioned, i was constantly sending the bolt home on a empty mag, OR my hand was hitting the other side of the bolt release causing the bolt to stay open. I thought for sure the one i bought had steel surrounding the ejection port and not poly like the one you have there, i could be wrong.
great vids, keep up the good work!
The newer Gen-2 Kriss Vectors have metal ejection ports now.
I agree about the ergo piece. Holding further down the side resulted in the heel of my palm being pinched by the hold open as that release snaps on the last round. Vertical grip it is for my SDP 45, sure happy there is enough rail on top for a light along with a red dot... It is super wicked though and sure turns some heads especially on the pistol side of my local range. Sits in the bedroom with a 30 full of HST.
Excellent full, detailed and honest review!
What if I want a Vector chambered in .500 SW?
The Weapon Collection and do a production run of a 100 k I'll buy one I'm sure others would to
can someone explain me the no stock shoulder contact? why is it illegal to stick a smg to your shoulder?
Antonio Figon Leyva because right now it's considered a "pistol." as soon as it touched his shoulder the ATF views it as a short barreled rifle (SBR) which is illegal without the proper paperwork. which he is in the process of getting now. takes a few months 😛
Antonio Figon Leyva because the atf are a bunch of fucking idiots for long story short.
Best tl;dr ever.
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the one on the left looks AMAZING
Are those OEM GLOCK .45 mags? Most problems are mag related. Glock 13 rounders work great.
Lol that action firearms shoutout was unexpected. Can't remember the owners name but I bought 3 guns from him so far best prices ever. And if you find it cheaper 9 times out of 10 he will match the price.
Since when are regulations law ? The ATF only has the authority to write regulations to existing law. There is no law on how you fire a weapon.
But there is law about putting stocks on pistols.
The ATF isn't writing law here. They are classifying a type of weapon based upon how it is put to use. Shouldering an arm brace effectively modifies the intended design. This decision has now reversed by the ATF anyway. Google it.
@@rbhe357 wrong
@@flushiez
We appreciate your insightful response but would you care to elaborate? What part of this is wrong?
@@rbhe357 you can shoulder a brace
You upload this late at night the night before I have to drive early in the morning.... why you do this to me man? I need sleep lol
jamzacez Can i touch you?
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NotYourMom 2 what the hell
Donovan Wainman what about u
Hey man here's a little tip, when you're holding the mag well of the vector place your thumb below the bolt catch and place your forward palm Ridge (the area at your finger joint or below your knuckles) in the mag well indentation. It well feel awkward at first, but it is the most efficient way to fire the vector will holding the mag well.
good review
forozen
Did you contact KRISS about the damaged ejection port?
NFA paperwork is total horse crap! is what it is for now but absolutely ridiculous !
Its not that its bad placement,its because its a completely different platform than you are used to using,just like a tavor you have to give it more than a day
Very cool firearm. Yes. Keep doing videos like these.
I do believe the side folding adapter is legal with the arm brace, you don't need to SBR it to get that option.
I still recall your first Vector review, with the same build quality issues, sad to see no change.
I just purchased one of these beauties and I to have the "brace" not a buttstock. I'm still confused on why they say its considered a pistol and i was told i cant put a forward grip on it too. To many laws and loopholes lol. I didnt know you could switch out calibers. I got mine in 9mm instead of .45 for cheaper reloads. My favorite feature is the threaded barrel so I can put my Osprey on it. Your video did answered some questions for me, thanks.
Good review and explanation of the ststem but doing the breakdown in front of a black hoodie doesnt allow me to see what youre pointing at .....wear contrasting clothing
even with the long barrel it's still amazingly great short range rifle I found you don't lose all that much maneuverability with the adjustable stock it makes it fairly good no matter which Barrel you have butt the short one definitely gets an A++ 4 Clearing Houses and urban environment situations
Sounds like an awesome gun to own. I'm actually debating whether to purchase the vector or a desert eagle in the near future. BTW, as of the April 2017, arm braces fired from the shoulder will not be considered an SBR
i have my kriss vector and what made it Mass compliant was the fixed buttstock over the folding one, also have the extended barrel and it does look pretty sweet
andrew hennessey you have the carbine version then?
"If you're seeing this a year from now, it's probably already over"
*looks at date today: 1/4/2018*
:(
Oh well, but I am SUPER excited to put a down payment on a CA Kriss Vector in Alpine White! CAN'T WAIT!
late to this vid but seriously this thing is just too damn cool. I do have to ask, with its ease of breakdown is it easy to clean?
grea review bro. been wondering about these guns. I'm sold
I'd still shoulder it nfs just splitting hairs
Benjamin Fisher Not a good idea if your filming it for the world to see though
+adam briar fair enough
I hear what you're saying though. The rule is retarded as hell, just on video never good idea to "break the law"....even one as dumb as this lol
adam briar
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Very nice of you to place the time index on the video. Thanks.
Damn good review, dude. I sue hope Kriss watches and learns. Keep on doing what you're doing.
Hi Andrew, what kind of luck have you had with those extended capacity aftermarket Glock magazines? Would you recommend them? Trying to decide between those, Glock mags or waiting for Magpul to release their 27 round versions (for 9mm).
Thanks for the review. I'm trying to decide between the Vector and a custom QC10 AR pistol to replace my shotgun for home defense. The shotgun is great, but something like this has room for a suppressor. No need to ruin my ears over some jerk trying to break in. I might have to wait and see if Kriss ever plans to make the small fixes you mentioned.
Bet you were freezing! great video man!
Good job on the review mate! Though id ask you to wear a different colour fleece as it lacks contrast with the firearm.
another awesome video! I'm excited about this channel again. some really cool and unique videos lately. that knife throwing one was classic GY6! America fuck yeah!
Love the luckyshot segment also love the vids man keep up the good work
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With the vector having a pistol length barrel and being chambered in a pistol caliber, why would you file sbr paperwork? Is it not a pistol?
whats the OAL without the stock or with the stock folded? it seems like it would be a perfect truck gun SBRd and in 10mm
Rim on a 556 is the same as a 9mm. Double barrel rifle 556 and 9mm. Change battery of bolt from 556 to 9mm then back to 556. Pencil barrels. top feed the 556.
you should get a foregripwith a flashlight that should take care of some problems and you should get a light anyway
One of my favorite guns for the unique look and system, thanks for the great review!
I was trying to order the drum for mine. Their website is such a joke. You can't buy anything on their website. So difficult to navigate. I am interested in the drum. Any other place you recommend I get it from?
Can gen 2 vector cycle rounds by using the charging handle? I know gen 1 have problems extracting rounds out of the chamber when manually pulling the charge handle.
Hey man i accidentally gave you some bad info. when folding the vector by the the mag well your actually supposed to put the rear rage of your palm (the part of your hand that's connected to your thumb. into the indentation to keep your thumb below the bolt hold open. Like how you grip your hand when you're using a two hand hold on a handgun.
I may be wrong but you could put an angled foregrip so you wouldn't need the legal paper work
Sweet guns!
Happy New Year my friend!
You explain yourself well on how the gun work's.
Because I haven't even held a Kriss Vector before. With the AR15 Stock adapter could you fit a Slide fire on a 9mm Kriss Vector with most of that recoil absorbed? would it even fit? Just curious. Sorry if it's a really novice question. Thanks!
what 45 acp ammo did you use? ive heard a lot about them being unreliable with lower powered 45 acp ammo
could you do a video on what firearm are best for someone just getting into them? thank love the videos
@GY6vids It looks like that ergo problem could be solved with a front end attachment... like a shroud that can house a suppressor or something? Do you know if Kriss makes any aftermarket products like that?
Awesome review! Keep on with the lucky shot giveaways! 👍🏻👍🏻
How would the AFT ever know if you “shoulder” your weapon in a home defense situation?
I want to get the utg super slim riser mount for my Kriss V, would the 1 inch or the .83 inch be better for co-witness?
Seems like they messed up serializing the barrel part. Wonder why they did that?
really love your vids, keep up the great work man
Great vid. I own one of these and I disagree with what you said about the mag/bolt release. If you hold it more like a pistol grip instead of the rifle grip you were doing and you won't have that problem.
I don't understand, it has a stock but you can't let it touch your shoulder?
Can the selective fire version of the KRISS Vector be able to swap into .40 S&W, 9x21mm, 10mm Auto and .357 SIG calibers and not just the advertised 9x19mm Parabellum and .45 ACP?
I have a gen 1 SBR in 45acp and the ejection port is all metal and even being metal it has tiny lol nicks in it from the brass shells ejecting and for the bolt stop and releas you just gotta keep your thumb down or you can use the charging handle to rest your thumb
will you be able to convert semi auto firearm into a fully automatic firearm if you have the proper equipment, proper skills and proper knowledge about gunsmithing ?
I noticed a significant POI shift when using a silencer on my .45ACP Gen2 Vector. The shift was highly consistent, always down and right by the same amount, but it was a noticeably larger shift than I would have expected. Should I be worried, or is this something to expect from this caliber when using a short barreled gun (especially when having to use a thread adapter)?
maybe a fore grip attachment would be helpful
Good, honest review.
Thank you! I appreciate the support
great review brother. Very thorough and informative
in the SRB with a grip wonder how much of a game changer that would be?
10:38 in, and this is turning out to seem to be a pretty honest review. Nice work.
really sweet video !!!! reminds me of my bow motorcycle suspension..... there is a center shock,,, not in forks of bike... when you break hard... the bike sits down... like the blowback of the vector... cool beans
Do they make a double drum mag for the 45?
And what suppressor would u suggest for the 45
I have found the difference in accuracy between my standard and SBR 45ACP Vector to be fairly substantial. At 20 yards I shoot consistently sub 2 MOA freehand red dot on the standard, and about double that on the SBR. For some reason the spread gets a bit larger when the SBR gets hot, while the standard Kriss remains fairly consistent. Not sure if it is the ammo, as I generally use Blazer. Anyone else see this?
I found out about this gun playing "division" . Cool looking piece! You seem pretty knowledgeable... I'm curious to know, I wonder if I could own this as a pistol or a short barreled rifle in NYC?
Aren't SB Tactical pistol grips legal to shoulder now? Pretty sure ATF sent out a letter on 'em. Correct me if I'm wrong
I've been waiting since I found your channel to see a vector review.
Ethan Bott hey
This or AR-15 .556? Which would you recommend?
Could you take the stock off that so you don't have to worry about putting on your shoulder
I always love the reviews. great vid.
Thank you Levi!
Great review! I’ve been looking into buying one. I think I may hold off though do to the plastic ejection port breaking up from a fte.
Because it takes a while to come out with a new gun, you should try testing out old guns, like an old Thompson submachine gun or even an M1 Garand (I may have misspelled that). I would definitely like to see you test out a Spas-12.
i love your vids! i wish u luck in more subs!
“ i kinda have to talk to do a review” 😂😂🙏
love my gen2 45acp cant wait to pick up the 10mm for some smooth boar hunting. Interesting though right out of the box the thing was zero'd ready to go.
Yeah 10mm is a great round...wish ammo would come down in cost though.
You shot the sphinx alpha yet? If not do it you will love it
I love how u described the trigger as...Kriss-P. Lol 😂
Get a pic to mlok rail adapter and put on a halo or other mlok only hand stop. AMAZING