Personally, I think Sebastian is around 27 and Maru around 20-23, I think this because Demetrius has dialogue about him wanting her going to college some day. I think that Abigail is probably 23 and Sam around 25 and I think Penny is 26 since she is a teacher. I don’t think Harvey has a crush on Maru I just think she’s the only person in town he really knows so he worries extra about her.
I don’t think sam is 25 I think him and abigail are a lot younger, like 19-22. The reason I say this is be because of their relationships with their parents. In one of the heart events same has to sneak you into his bedroom. Abigail’s parents also still struggle to treat her as an adult. Also for sam, he has a brother who is in 2nd grade, so about 7-8 years old. They definitely have a larger age gap but I think it’s more realistic that sam is in his early 20s for this reason.
I also think that Abigail is about that age group, given how Pierre is and Abigail's heart events shows that maybe she lacks the life experience to know what might be dangerous or not as halien6384 mentioned. Sam can stay the age he is, as he knows his way around the big city. I also think that Abigail has a crush on Sebastian, to which he seems to be oblivious to. I also googled how long to get a nurse certification, which is 2 years. That's not a lot but that means that, if Maru concluded high school and did her certification 20 would be one of the youngest. 21 is considered an "adult" without restrictions in most places. But if Abigail is the youngest, that mean if Abigail is 23, Maru would be at least a few months or a full year older at very least. Also some people might take sabaticals before going to college, which makes Maru's age a little more "free-flowing". Is she taking a sabbatical? Using her work at the clinic to save for college funds? I should revisit her events probably
Theory B only because Seb’s attitude towards Robin’s new husband makes sense as someone who very use to living with just his mom but was force to accept her new boyfriend as his new father figure, and the anxiety that came from seeing his parents separating at a young age but old enough to remember to cause his anxiety. And for a fun fact there was cut dialogue of Robin talking to her ex meaning that his father is alive but has no contact/ limited relationship with Seb.
Theory B. While Sebastian looks like someone who is in their late 20s, Maru looks like she hasn't reached her mid 20s yet, so I believe the age gap between the two of them is larger. Plus, if I'm remembering Sebastian's dialogue correctly, he always gave off that vibe of he remembers the early years of his mom and Demetrius's relationship or around the time Maru was born and as they grew up, he noticed that Maru was getting more attention and favoritism for being the younger sibling and expressing interest in science like her dad. That led to Sebastian developing resentment for his sister. So yeah, I think Sebastian and Maru have a larger age gap.
Like their age gab is at least 5-7 years at minimum. Sebastien is old enough to ride a motor and because he his the black sheeo of the family he probably paid it all out of his own poket. So he probably is around 27-29 while Maru is probably 21-23 years old.
Theory B all the way. If we consider Seb and Maru’s interests in life, it makes perfect sense for Seb to hang out with “younger rebellious geeks” and for Maru to hang out in the older circles. Seb works part time remotely in a tech job, plays DnD, hangs out by the lake outside smoking and being all sad lol. Aby and Sam match that energy. I’m a bit like Maru myself, being in my 20’s in a medical field with a passion for science overall. I’m mostly hanging out with people, who are MUCH older than me too. So it wouldn’t be a far fetch for Maru to be friends with Penny and Harvey, who are much more mature mentally as well as physically. And PLUS - Pelican Town is a very small town. Small towns bring together people of different ages, cause there’s not so much to choose from in terms of best friends
Honestly, even from someone living in a larger city than pelican town, I have friends/am friendly with a lot of different people of different ages. It's just life, especially when you work a lot and meet different people. Which, Sebastian being a shut-in by choice and by job, really does make more sense for him to be friends with younger people especially when factoring in his interests. So I agree 100%.
Theory B. I think Seb's dad (most likely IMO) dying unexpectedly or separating from Robin when Seb was a little older makes more sense. Compared to a two-year-old, an older kid will have a harder time accepting a new parental figure and may even think their former parent is being cruelly replaced (don't you love them anymore?). This would explain a lot of that resentment. There are ways to do it right, but when Robin met Demetrius, she fell in love hard and fast and tied the knot before Seb was completely on board. They then had a child soon after getting married and since Seb still had memories of his previous family it suddenly seemed like he was being replaced too. He was suddenly an outsider, a smear on their image of a perfectly happy family, because he still dearly missed his dad. With theory A there would have to be some other reason Seb didn't accept Demetrius as his father. Maybe there was a one-time event that shattered the relationship, Demetrius actually showed a lot of favoritism, or....?
@@alicjak700 definitely looking at them presently. I wonder if Demetrius didn’t try at first to build a relationship with Sebastian just to have his efforts thrown back in his face (you’re never going to be my dad. You can’t replace him). At some point you’re going to stop trying to build a relationship with your adult step-son who insists that he hates you. Just an idea.
Them marrying quickly could also mean Robin got pregnant before she was married to him and both thought the most logical option was the quickly tie the knot. Unfortunately, I know someone in my family who got pregnant by another guy WHILE STILL MARRIED and so she divorced her first husband and married the guy she had an affair with to cover the whole thing up. That would shed negative light on Robin and I don’t think she’s the type to do that.
Imo Sebastian is 25 and Sam is 22, with Maru being 20. I have a similar age gap with one of my sisters, five years may not seem like much but growing up it felt like she was completely at a different stage than me, I can understand how that can set up resentment. I also believe Robin and Demetrius may have had Maru before getting married, with Maru perhaps living with Demetrius throughout early childhood. Combining for an even more rocky start. As for Sam, him being 22 allows leeway for his ‘teenage’ behavior yet still allows him to have had gone to highschool with Seb since they both tend to reminisce about the ‘good old days’.
I HOPE there's an age gap between Seb and Maru, because it paints Demitrius in a REALLY bad light if they're close in age... How bad a stepfather does he have to be if he became Seb's dad at two years old and they act like this about each other?
Personally I think the age gap is 3-5 years. Sebastian was old enough to have an opinion on Demetrius and notice the attention Maru was getting. On a related note: a video about the ages of characters from mods like Expanded or Ridgeside would be interesting.
Sebastian's wedding dialogue shows that he and Maru have been togheter since childhood, and the fact that he says this comparing them to his own children gives the impression that they were very young, so maybe they just have 2 to 3 years apart from each other(it would be very curious for Robin to divorce and find someone so quickly with a child from the previous relationship, but who can guarantee that she knew she was pregnant with Sebastian before getting divorced?)
There are "Age" and "Love Interest" entries in the game's file, as well as some other dispositions like "Social Anxiety", "Manner" and such, which mostly affects generic NPC lines they use. (For example, a "Polite" NPC will use a list of milder words; A "Kid" will react to certain player behaviors with a list of childish remarks.) These are previously in NPCDispositions.xnb, now merged into Stardew Valley\Content\Data\Characters.xnb after 1.6 with some changes. Here's some interesting info: Abigail, Maru, Penny, Sam and Sebastian are categorized as "Teenager"s, while all other marriage candidates are "Adult"s. The 10 original marriage candidates are mutual "Love Interest"s with their official pairing, including Maru & Harvey. Emily and Shane has no "Love Interest". "Love Interest" isn't necessarily mutual, for example, Marnie is Marlon's "Love Interest", Lewis is Marnie's "Love Interest", but Lewis loves nobody. Additionally, in the CS codes for the Theater, there are defined friend groups that would go to watch movies together. Abigail, Sam and Sebastian are obviously friends; But apparently Harvey, Maru and Penny are in a lesser pronounced group, too. (They stand together at the Flower Dance, go to the Theater together, Penny talks about Harvey crushing on Maru... But none other than that is shown in the game.) Notice how Harvey is the only non-"Teenager" here? Now this gives me a theory that at the time most NPC related stuff were completed, Harvey still had his older design where he was significantly younger. (This can be backed up by the fact that Alex is still referred to as "Josh" in some of the codes, and NPCs' sprites noticably resemble their older portraits more.) CA didn't bother to change it later on, thus the whole "Harvey/Maru" age gap thing is now read as weird. Current version Harvey has the least amount of non-event NPC lines among all marriage candidates, which is only ~20 lines (he is "boring" because he was did dirty brooo), while others have ~60 to 90, and I suspect that is due to so many of his previous design lines being scrapped along with the portrait, and maybe some of those could even hint their little friend group. But that's just my wild speculation.
I remember seeing a reddit ama with Concerned Ape years ago where someone asked him about those dispositions and ages and he said not to read too much into those tags because he says that the "teen" and "adult" tags weren't meant to indicate anything like ages or anything like that but was meant as general throwaway tags to indicate which of the candidates were independent and living alone and who still lived at home with family and made regular refrences to parents in the valley.
@@thebeardedgamer1245 Yeah, he specifically said he imagined them to be 22 to 25. Although some marriage candidates seem really teen coded writing-wise. From my datamining, the dispositions don't do much in the current version, and Age in the code only affects very few lines, and who attends the Egg Festival egg hunt.
Honestly? I think theory A is more fun because of the marriage aspect between Robin and Demetrius. I could see Robin stumbling her way into him a year after her divorce and falling for him pretty quickly, he's a responsible and sensible guy with probably a good income. They get married rather quickly and have Maru and that obviously bothers Sebastian. I headcanon Sebastian as autistic and dealing with rapid change can be difficult for loads of autistic people, he wasn't given a lot of time adapt and it left him a bit resentful towards Demetrius and Maru from the beginning. I also thinknit would explain why Robin and Demetrius bicker or fight so often, since they basically got married in their honeymoon phase and didn't have a lot of time to also see each others most annoying habits or personality traits. But that's just me though :3
Seb was definitely a young kid probably young enough to not remember his dad since he doesn’t talk about him at all, but then again it could be because his dad was not a nice person
Are there any theories about Penny’s father? I know there’s dialogue about him leaving because he felt trapped, but it might be fun to explore some thoughts on who he might be and what he might be like
Idk about y'all, but a potentially tight timeline between Robin's first and second marriages brings up the possibility of an affair, which could contribute to the strained relationship between Demetrius and Seb
a doctor in his mid 30s? Guess Harvey is a hot item after all - and didn't catch that Shane would be that old,I just thought his..erm .. "lifestyle" had taken its toll
most dr's train well into 30's harvey prob nearer to 40 as he has his own practice meaning he has to be 40- 45 range its 8 years of uni then 2- 3 years of residency and then another cppl years to train in whatever feidl of medicine so u talking hes 40 plus
I believe their's a large age gape between Maru and Sebastion. Reading a lot of the comments, the one's that mention Robin assume it's her ex-husband who cheated on her, not the reverse. Considering their's a lot of little things that could paint a picture of Robin being willing to cheat. Especially with how Demetrius doesn't seem to have learned how to communicate with Robin better and the reverse for Robin, with them being married at least for twenty years. I believe Maru and Sebastion having a large age gap, not only with how they treat each other, but also how their parents treat them. Demetrius at best treats Sebastion as a distance obligation, since he doesn't mention Sebastion at all, and Robin is constantly worried about Sebastion. Maru mentions how she wishe's she had a brother, after saying how Sebastion hardly talks to her and if he even likes her, since he doesn't act as a brother. With Sebastion mentioning when he's married to the PC, that Maru probaly like's it that he's gone, with another mention of how underappreciated he felt at home. The only time we hear of Demetrius interacting with Sebastion is when he told him to destroy his snow goon. Maru other than how Sebastion treats her, has a great relationship with her parents, mentioning how both parents would include her in parts of their jobs. A lot of people seem to think Maru is a nurse, when in fact their's no mention of Maru being a nurse at all in the game. Maru and Harvey mention that it's a job and nothing more. It being mention that Harvey likes Maru being around, since she can fix the machine's if they break. And what we see Maru do is administrative work, with her handling something in a beaker, and since she's not treating patients, she would only need a certificate in chemicals and biohazards/biowaste, if the region required it, both of which would only need a high school diploma or GED, and than a test. Even with a more stringent requirement of needing hours of actual experience, most certifications would allow her to take the test and have a probationary certification, if the place she's working at is willing to vouch for her while she earns the hours needed their. And also it's a part time job. Also she works with her dad in his lab, and Demetrius is the type to have Maru certified to help in all functions of his lab, which include chemicals, as soon as possible. So I always place Maru, along with Haley, at 18. I take that Sebastion never went to college, with how Robin mentions that he doesn't seem to care about his future. And with his personality and his general predisposition, with him being a independent coder, which doesn't require any type of degrees. I believe him to be about 25. It would also fit with Demetrius not liking that Sebastion not going to college/university, being a bad example for Maru. I believe that Sam and Abigail are the same age, about 19 or 20, with Sebastion being the cool older kid that they followed around, and who eventually got used to them and became friends with during their teenage years. With Penny being in her early twenties and Leah with Emily in their mid-twenties. With Harvey being in his late thirties, Shane in his mid-thirties, and Elliott late twenties or early thirties.
I always thought Maru was an older teen if not 20 years old. She's a receptionist at the doctor's office, but doesnt do actual health care. Sebastian works on in-depth work on his computer, as if he has a degree, putting Sebastian at around 25-28 in my opinion. I think theory B makes sense. Also, Penny could be like 22 or 23 since people can become teachers straight out of college. I know she's never been out of Pelican Town before, so I'm spitballing concerning her generic age in relation to her occupation, which would explain her and Maru's closeness. Additionally, Maru's comment about Harvey seems more like she's creeped out that a guy his age (37-40) would even be potentially interested in her.
If you believe Theory A; it is also possible that Robin knew Demetre before the loss of her first husband. However, I don't think this supports the distance Sebastion feels between himself and his sister. It isn't impossible, but i still feel they would be closer even if Demetre wasn't a good stepfather. Theory B is personally the one I agree more with. Sebastion went to college, came back, and Maru is expected to still go. If we assume most colleges are at least four years, this alone will put Maru in the 21-25, or younger, age range is we agree that Sebastion is at least 29 years old. Though even if we knock Sebastion down to 26, Maru can still easily be 19-21. It might help understand Ape's culture; are people allowed to drink alcohol earlier or later in life? America is 21 and older; while some countries are 18 and older, or younger if with a parent or guardian; also, there are some countries that you have to be much older to drink. I personally don't recall a scene in which Maru goes into the Tavern with her folks. She lets that be their thing. Robin and Demetre dance and it always looks like Robin is smiling, like this was something she couldn't do with her pervious partner. Sebastion is old enough to be in there on his own, and I believe Gus wouldn't serve to anyone underage. Gus does have a wide range of items for sale, and with the town being so small, he knows everyone's parents/guardians. Overall, I believe the age theory video was wonderfully done with a lot of thought put into it! Keep up the good work :3
Personally I always felt like Sebastian was in his mid to late twenties. Thinking him being at least 28 years old. If we look at it at a realistic stand point (to me personally for Maru’s sake.) Maru would have been in nursing school in order to work with Harvey, doing science on the side. With that Maru could be a student nurse, working in a hospital. However I say Maru is either 26 or 25 due to her completing the nursing program and able to work with Harvey as a practicing nurse. In the stands as your theory, I kind of see as Robin probably did divorce Sebastians’s dad with in the first year of Sebastian’s life. Probably having a co-parenting relationship with her exhusband. On the days Sebastian is with his actual dad. Robin actually go out meet Demetrius and probably fell in love with him after a few dates. Gotten married. Then living with his stepfather. While his actual dad probably ended the co-parenting thing. At the age of two shortly before Maru was born. I was thinking of it like that.
I base their ages based on their stories and level of maturity. Sebastain has a freelance job and is saving up to move out, Sam says he should probably move out soon, and Abigail is finishing up school. Given the fact Sebastian talks about having a few gigs up his sleeve but doesn't enough money to move out, Abigail's parents said they're "letting her stay until she finishes school" (probably implying college), Sam is just NOW realizing he's a grown up and needs his own place, and since they all hang out together and in a way, still behave like teenagers I'd actually put them 21-24. Sam and Sebastian definitely give childhood friends vibes and they're both equally immature but in different ways. Maru on the other hand talks about GOING to college, as in she isn't enrolled yet. Maru is a smart girl with actual experience in her field, so she isn't here because she was wait listed, and she already knows what she wants to do both in terms of career and college, so she probably isn't taking a gap year. And if Sebastian is in his early twenties that would make Maru even younger. I'd put here at 18-19. She also seems even MORE immature based on her break up dialogue. "Not good enough for you huh?" before going "Okay fine", this seems to me a very 19 year old thing to say. If I was getting specific I'd put Maru at 19 and Sebastain at 24 based on their stories, personalities, and dynamics.
.... It's my time to bring in more personal lore on myself ..... At 19 I married a 34 y/o man and had his kid. 0/10 don't recommend. But it is possible for someone young as 18-19 to fall for an older and even marry them even by today's standards.
My personal theory is that they have a 3 year age gap, I think Sebastian’s father walked out and Robin started dating Demetrius, but Robin got pregnant with Maru they married
I read them as being fairly close in age, and that the distance between Sebastian and Maru is something that grew once they were in their teens and Demetrius’ favoritism of Maru became more recognizable. I read Maru as being about 23 and Sebastian as around 25-26. I get the impression that Seb didn’t go to college and was never encouraged to, whereas Maru always was and Demetrius resents that she followed her brother’s path of success without a degree, and blames Sebastian for that. How Demetrius and Robin ended up together….i have no idea how they even met. But I can definitely see Demetrius seeing baby Sebastian and thinking they raising him would be as easy as following the parenting books and nothing more. I also don’t read Harvey as old as 35+. I think he’s only about 32. Old enough to feel “old” but not old enough to realize he’s still fairly young. And he’s so awkward that his crush on Maru comes across (to me) as more proximity based than anything else.
I lean towards Maru being in her early twenties (around my age: 21-22), and Seb being between 24 to 26, with Abby also being in her early twenties (maybe one year older than Maru) and Sam being the same age as Sebastian. It is stated in the game that Sebastian didn't go to college and would have already graduated if he had gone (in my country you graduate from college at 22/23, idk if this is like this in every country) and we also see that Abby is not that close to him as Sam is, i personally believe that Sam and Seb are childhood friends and Abby came a bit later to the picture, as Seb states that Sam is his only friend in town. About the Harvey and Maru thing, I have friends who have dated or are dating people 8+ years older than them, so I just personally don't feel weirded out with him being 30-31-32 and having feelings for Maru as in my headcannon everyone you can date is 20+ years old. But yeah, that's my personal theory. With the Demetrius and Robin thing I lean towards them already being friends before her separation and feelings growing rapidly because of him being there for her (I have seen this happen in real life too), which would make Sebastian and Maru have a small age gap
I think Seb and Maru have a large-ish age gap. From my own experience, bonding with an older sibling (my fully biological brother and I are 13 apart in age) is difficult, especially if there are only two siblings (on the other hand, my best friend has two siblings, each 5 years apart and she's the eldest, well, except for an older half brother whom she doesn't really talk to) Regarding age gaps in friendships, I'm twenty and have two friends whom I've met online through Genshin Impact. They're 16 and 14. They're my ride-or-dies. Considering Seb, Sam and Aby are in a band together, I think they bonded over their interest in music quite a while ago (Aby goes close to Seb's house to play the flute if I'm not wrong and Seb could have heard her play and they strated talking.) As for Maru and Penny, it's possible that they were schooled together. Both of them are pretty smart and it's possible there was someone who filled the teacher role when Penny wasn't old enough to teach. And considering Pelican town is very small, there wouldn't be a reason to teach each grade individually as there would only be 2 children max in each grade. There's probably mistakes in this, but this is how I feel about it^^
i think Sebastian and Maru are fairly close in age because of a dialogue from Sebastian about "him and Maru fighting a lot as kids" or something like that, i don't believe he would be speaking about fights of when he was at his mid teens yk but i'm not sure tbh
I feel like Maru, Sam and Abigail are the youngest marriage candidates. They still take part in the egg hunt, which is usually an event for kids. Sam has the line about not having seen his dad for three years, and Kent says Sam grew up while he was gone. So that makes me think that Sam is 20 at the oldest. Abigail is taking online college classes, so would most likely be 18-22. Maru hasn’t gone to college, so I feel like she is 18-19. I don’t think Demetrius would let her miss out on college. Sebastian says if he had gone to college he would be making six figures by now. So I feel like he would at least be 24 to have graduated from college. Personally I think of him as around 25. That would put him at 6 or seven when Maru was born, which I think would have made him old enough to be resentful of the new father figure coming into his life, and enough to put some distance between him and Maru from the start. I think that the Harvey-Maru thing is platonic, Harvey seems socially awkward and she probably helps him interact with people more normally. Emily and Shane dance together and there is no romance implied there, so I don’t think dancing at the flower dance has to indicate romance. There is that line from Penny, but maybe she is just trying to pair her with someone? Personally I ship Maru with Penny. 😂
I lean more towards theory A, I just don't see a huge age gap between them, though their relationship somewhat reminds me of me and my sister's relationship. We are five years apart and complete opposites, but what I find interesting is the more we get to know them, the closer they seem to become.
A part of me thinks Sebastian was old enough to remember his father when the man left his life, and that they had a pretty good relationship. If Robin and Demetrius had a couple years between Robin's first marriage ending and Maru being born, I can see some hostility towards his step-father. Also, Demetrius gives me autistic vibes; high functioning, yes, but still on the spectrum. As someone whose younger brother is also on the spectrum, it's easier for me to get along with him than people who are newer in life. To me, thats just "how he is". If Sebastian was old enough to remember his bio dad, he might compare his step-dad to his memories and think, "that's not how a dad should be like". So, I do think the gap is more than 3 years. Just maybe not more than 7. Just enough time to have good memories of someone who isn't there anymore.
I think another tip may be the fact that Sebastian owns a motorcycle. (this will contain a lot of speculation, which is not confirmed in-game in any way) We don't know the economy and it might be a simple visual shortcut that doesn't represent the reality of the in-game world, but motor vehicles don't seem to be enough of a commonplace in the valley for it to be a gift from someone. I don't think it's new, based on the fact that he tinkers with it himself - probably he bought a used one. He might've needed to do a course and an exam to have a license, too. This doesn't read to me as someone who started a freelance job yesterday - even if we assume that he doesn't have to contribute much to the household expenses, he probably had to save up a bit to buy a vehicle, getting a license and learning its maintenance took time. Even considering they're a family of tech savvy people, they're not mechanics (ironically, the closest one to this field of interest is Maru - despite the lack of connection, they definitely have some similarities). It's still a stereotypically young person's hobby, but one someone develops as an adult, who's legally allowed to drive, and it's not his only hobby. I think he's got enough experience to be comfortable in his job - so he had to work for at least a few years. I'd also support theory B when it comes to the age gap, because it's more difficult to connect for siblings with a larger age gap. 2 or 3 years would make Maru and Sebastian be on a similar developmental stage and so they wouldn't have much choice but to spend a lot of time on similar activities. I'd say the age gap between them is at least 5 years, perhaps more. Maru is mentioned as someone who haven't gone to college yet (and may do so in the future) - I think she may be 19-23, depending on the education system. I don't think she's an actual nurse, she seems to mostly help at the lab and she mentions helping with paperwork at the clinic. I'd put Sebastian at 25-29 maybe, which isn't far off from Your prediction. As for Harvey, I don't think he has a very clear crush on Maru, or at least if he has one he keeps it appropriate - his quotes during Maru's heart event seem to be from the position of a mentor, they don't seem to be even remotely on the same level. The beach quote could point to a crush, or could be something awkward but inconsequential, connected to the fact that Harvey doesn't have many friends at all. IIRC, they also dance together at the flowers dance, but I think that's a case of Maru being kind of isolated, and not having any male friendships outside of work. I think Penny is playing matchmaker a bit, even if Maru is her best friend - being married with kids is Penny's calling, so she may want the same kind of happiness for her friend. I don't think Harvey is in his late 30s - he does seem to genuinely care for his patients, which is stereotypically a trait of younger doctors, who are not yet burnt out from decades of difficult work. We don't know how the healthcare system works in the game, maybe there are dotations helping to establish clinics in the rural areas? I think Harvey is in early-to-mid 30s, which makes an age gap between Maru and him still big, but not so big he could easily be her father, or something.
Theory B and here is my reasonings. 1. The strain on Sebastian and Maru’s relationship. I personally think Sebastian’s father passed away at a young age and that once demitrius enter the picture Sebastian gets jealous because he had his mother to himself prior to this, then Maru enters the picture and is treated like the golden child and this further depressed Sebastian leading to the edgy emo personality he has. 2. If we keep Sebastian at age 29 and maru at 24 that would make the most sense to me, as maru would have been able to go to college and get a medical degree to work at the clinic at the very least. In regard to the friends I think Abigail, Sam and penny are all younger, all in their early 20’s, based on appearances and personality. Plus, penny doesn’t necessarily have to be a teacher, Vincent and Jaz could be homeschooled and she is just being paid to be a tutor for them both and why she still lives with her mother Pam. But that’s just my personal opinion.
Theory B, up to ten years. As creepy as it seems I do headcanon Maru to be quite young, 21 at the oldest. The stinkeye that Demetrius gives us in the lab if he even gets the IDEA that your farmer might be interested in her is Real. The rift between Demetrius and Sebastian is also quite Real, it's the kind of distance you tend to get from someone who was old enough to remember his dad, remember the divorce, and resent Demetrius for coming in to date his mother. Sebastian was old enough to say "you're not my real dad" and understand it was hurtful. As for Harvey, I do wonder if the attraction between Harvey and Maru started as an overprotectiveness on Harvey's part. Yes it IS creepy if Maru is half his age and also why Harvey never acts upon it. As for her job in the clinic, the wiki calls Maru a nurse but I call nuance. Her job is to stand at the counter all day, making Medical Assistant a viable option. My local community college offers a program, it's 140 hours long from start to finish. That's long in comparison to some online courses I found on a cursory search, including some six week courses with a GED being the only prereq. And if she's been helping out in her father's lab since she was in high school, it makes sense for Harvey to trust her with patient samples and small labwork tasks, she'd be a 20 year old with 5+ years lab experience. As for Sebastian not being on the list of older bachelors, consider 30 is not actually old. And, let's face it, if half the guys were on the 'older bachelor' list, would that list have maintained impact? Or would it have been Weird to see a 'hot older guys' list with half the eligible town in it.
I think both that theres an big ish age gap (5 years) but that you put them a bit older than they are. Specifically because I believe Maru graduated HS early, thereby leading her to also graduate college early. I think shes about 20, having graduated HS at 16 and now either just finished a BSN or is in one of her last semesters and doing clinicals with Harvey. Thereby putting a strain on her and Sebastians relationship from 1. The age gap. 2. The achievement gap. 3. The age Sebastian would have been when Robin remarried/met Demetrius and his young kid inability to cope.
Theory B I think is more likely. Just getting to know Robin, I can’t see her marrying Demetrius so quickly after Sebastian’s father was out of the picture. There was probably a long while of dating before she remarried. Plus, I feel like Sebastian had to have lost his father (through divorce or because he passed away) at an older age in childhood in order to become more resentful of his stepfather. I know the resentment of a stepparent can occur at really early ages too, but that’s just my take on it.
I lean towards B but I don't think he died - I think Sebstian dad wasn't a good person. Notices how his dad is never brought up? Usually families dymnaics are brought up someway, somehow if there important. if Sebstiasn dad was a loving mam who died I'm sure either Sebstian or Robin would mention him. But I also think they broke it off when Sebstian was little, so he has no real memory of him. Robin was a single mom so having Demtrius suddenly around was a lot, didn't help he couldn't bond with Demtrius who I also thing is at fault for that too. Once Maru was born he was probably neglected as the new baby needed more attion. leading to the now strained dynamic in the families. Demitruis favoritism towards is daughter probably is also the reason Sebstian and Maru relationship is so strained. Even though Sebstian must be very smart too, This probably why he wished to live in a city, not cause he hated the village but cause he didn't feel at home. but I think there age gap also might be 5 or 6 years. SO like, its in the middle of large and small. But long enough to make bonding hard. Like Sebstian is a teen and Maru would still be a child for example.
My thinking... Abigail and Sam are probably around 19-20. Considered adult but have yet to truly mature. Shane is obviously over 21 (considering the law in the US) but I would believe probably more around 23, possibly a bit older, 24-25 top. He's allowed to drink and had some time to get into trouble and rack up even more trouble which got him to go and live with his aunt in order to try to turn his life around (at least that's his family wishes). Harvey is probably in his late 30s. He's a doctor which would take him several years to get to a point where he can have his own independent practice (Early 30s) so I would assume he did his studies, worked maybe a bit in the city and decided to open his practice. With all that, the time it could take I assume late 30s. Elliot is probably in his 40s. He lives alone on a beach in a backwater town and seems jobless. My guess is midlife crisis. Sebastian is probably around the age of Abigail since he is friend with her and Sam. He's still showing sign of lack of maturity and teen habits some I think that would be a fair assessment. Since Maru is younger as confirmed by ConcernedApe that would put her around 18-19 if Sebastian is 19-20. The fact that she work in the clinic doesn't mean she's has any medical training, don't let the nurse outfit fool you. She's probably a medical assistant at best on that regard. Penny I believe would be between mid and late 20s. She matured and is trusted to teach and not turn Skywalker on the younglings. Emily is obviously above 21 (again assuming US law) since she work behind the counter at a bar. By guess would be mid 20s since she is trusted to care for the house while her parents are touring the world. Haley is probably the younger sister being early 20s. She hasn't matured yet and clearly not responsible enough yet to care for the house properly with her sister. All that... IMO of course :)
@@sodorart Maybe that could make sense. What if Maru wasn't "planned" but a happy accident? If Robin kinda rebounded from her breakup and married Demetrius because she got pregnant? It would explain why they don't seem to gel as a couple and the resentment Sebastian feels for Demetrius.
I actually think that Shane is around 35-40 because in a secret note he's mentioned as one of the older bachelors alongside Elliot and Harvey, and considering of how he speaks about his younger days twenties don't really fit him^^
I genuinely think that maybe when Sebastian's dad either moved away or died he could have become very shy hence why he may be older than his friends as he started coming out of his shell more perhaps as a way to get out of the house with his mum's new husband and his new baby sister. Hence maybe why he is a bit older than Abigail and Sam who may have grown up being friends.
I think Maru is 22-25 and Sebastian is 29. About Harvey and Maru: Growing up I always heard that the minimum socially acceptable age for someone to date is half their age plus 7 (this falls apart under 14 lol). If Harvey is 34, dating a 24 year old is considered okay by that standard. Assuming Maru is on the younger side and Sebastian is 29, Maru could be 24. Or Maru could be 22 and Harvey could feel super guilty about his crush on her, which could be an additional reason for him to not even try to pursue her beyond anxiety. My mom purposely spaced 5 years between myself and my brothers (they are 5 and 10 years younger than me) because she thought it would eliminate sibling rivalry, but it just made bonding take way longer. Middle brother and I started to get close when I was a senior in high school and he was in sixth grade. I acted (and still do to an extent) more like a parent to my youngest brother than like a sister. Adding in the half- to that dynamic and unequal treatment from Demetrius could easily keep their relationship strained for much longer, too.
My head cannon is Seb and Maru don’t have a big age gap because Robin coped with the loss of her husband by marrying again instead of taking time to grieve which is why it seems like Demetrius and Robin don’t really love each other but don’t hate each other either
after reading comments in the last video someone had a good point about Demetrius. I think it's the 2 heart event with maru where Demetrius acts very overbearing towards u in a "don't break my daughters heart" way. so if it makes u think abagail is young for her mom to treat her in this manner than maru must be young too. I would put maru in a age similar to Abigail. honestly my bet is a 5 year age gap with Sebby, so I would say she's 22 and he's 27 which would also mesh better with his friend group. it honestly doesn't take that many years to get a bachelor's in computer science and if got a job right out of college he could have been working as early as at 22 (but I don't think that's his game now). and as far as Harvey having a crush on someone MUCH younger, honestly that happens all the time sadly enough so that doesn't change anything there.
I think theory B would make more sense than theory A. Sebastian has finished his studies but he's still in an "initial" working phase, one in which he works part-time and still needs to make a name in his field. Name that would allow him to get better job opportunities, which would allow him to move to the big city. Maru on the other hand is working part-time, but still needs to go on with her studies. If the age gap was small, I would expect Maru to be actively studying, like Abigail is. Now, for the family side of things... A bigger age gap would mean that Sebastian was old enough to remember the trauma and the stress caused by his parents ' separation. Seeing your parents separate, and on top of that seeing a new man take your father's place could be the reason for him being distant from the family and keeping by himself. Looking into the family's dynamics makes me also think that probably Robin's first husband could have been a good father, but a bad husband. A father good enough to cause Sebastian to be uncomfortable at having a man that tries to take his father's role away, and a husband bad enough to cause Robin feel the need to distance the man from her family. Given also how Demetrius behaves towards Sebastian makes me think that he knows Robin's first man, and knows how bad he was towards her. Enough to cause Demetrius to project his negative feelings onto the man's son.
I always see Seb’s bio dad being emotionally abusive to him, hench why he has social anxiety but maybe that just him feeling the trauma of being abandon by his dad.
It's possible that Robins and Demetrius mariage start as a deal not becouse of love. They both realy practical persons, Demetrius even to the point of being realy weird in his practicality. Maybe they was friends before and after Robins first husband left her pregnant/with realy smal child alone, Demetrius sugest deal. He give her financial stability and place to live while she take care of all house chores so he can focus on his sciense reserch. But over time they start acting more like a copule and less as a roommates. This don't answer the question about Sebastians and Marus age gap but might explain other problems in this family. Also, I think age gap is something around 3-5 years.
I know a friend of my parents who married a guy 10 years younger than her, and I had a teacher who also married a guy 12 years older than her (and both happily), so I don’t think it’s too out there that Harvey and Maru would like each other. I definitely feel like Maru is the kind of girl to prefer a mature personality and not a lot of the guys scream mature and got his life together to me, especially no one around her age. Im already married but if I’m being honest, I would’ve also preferred my husband being a lot more mature than he was when we got together; would’ve saved us a lot of money and effort. 😂
theory B because doctors can start out quite young these days. i’ve encountered people who are 23 and doctors. yes we *know* is one of the top 3 oldest but i dont think any of the bachelor/ettes are pushing 40. also, marrying someone AND having a little boy already was probably a huge decision for robin, and probably was talked about with demetrius a lot, especially if her first marriage ended badly. with pregnancy being 9 months, and what i just said in mind, theory A almost feels like robin could have been cheating on her first husband with demetrius with how damn close that’d be cutting it (in my opinion.) and that doesnt really fit robin to me. it just doesnt sound like her. sebastian was at LEAST older than toddlerhood when they got married (5+)
For me this all comes down to how creepy do you think Harvey is? 😂 He is Maru’s “older” boss who wants rub sunscreen on her. I think Maru is 25 cause Harvey wouldn’t go for anyone whose brain isn’t fully developed. I don’t think Robin would get pregnant by two different men in a short span and also Sebastian feels very awkward 30 year oldish.
omg i didn't realize maru is robin's biological daughter fr i thought they were a blended family and maru was demetrius' daughter from a previous marriage and i assumed they were very close in age lol
So as a mother to children the age of the younger bachelors and bachelorettes, I really believe that Sebastian is no older than 25. He has some behaviors that I strongly associate with late teens and early twenties. Also, gently, age gaps in siblings affect their relationships much less than parent behavior and individual personalities. I estimate the NPC’s ages based on who visits the saloon. Obviously Penny will avoid it regardless, but that means I think Haley, Maru, and Alex are around 20. Penny, Sam and Abigail are 21-23. I’ll put Sebastian as no older than 25. Leah, Emily and Shane late 20s. Elliot’s the hardest, but let’s say somewhere around 30. Harvey’s the oldest at around 32.
I'm sorry but I can't shake the impression I get. Maru I believe is 19. I think the reason why her and Penny are such good friends is because they are both socially awkward girls. Penny being raised by an older mother with a drinking problem and Maru's overprotective daddy who might just be a narcissistic energy vampire.
Why I think Seb is like 25-22; Whilest being his spouse/girlfriend he has a dialogue where he said "I could've finished college this year" Or something like that, I breifly remember it. But I also believe in the theory of a mod I play. (Yandere mod, yes I know cringey). I think Penny and Maru have a 1 year old gap. Harvey is disgusting to me, I know he might like her. But, I theorize Harvey is 7/8 years older, even if it's really... Disgusting. I know, my parents have that gap. But it's still ugh.
With absolutely no proof or evidence at all, I wonder if maybe Maru is from an earlier marriage for Dimitrius that never was fleshed out, It seems weird to just have a book about making the most of your second marriage lying around unless it could be something they both read. But there is only minis proof for this theory
Maybe Robin cheated on and then left Sebastian's father for Demetrius. I do like Robin so I feel bad accusing her like that, but it would make sense for the age gap being smaller between the half siblings while Robin and Seb's dad separating bit later in his life. And another reason for Sebastian's and Demetrius' relationship being not the best.
Or she just divorced her ex-husband and her ex didn't want to do annything with Sebastien after they got divorced. She looks like a hard working woman so she probably doesn't see everything that happens in the house and the things she sees she probably brush it off as a father who is protective to his daughter (most parents are more worried what will happen to their daughter and don't really worry what will happen to their son if they go out)
Help I’m too deep into sdv theories, it’s warping my perspective on everything, there not even that big of theories they just make so much sense but aren’t canon😭😭
Which do yall think: Theory A or Theory B?
B, for the sake of more breathing room. gives Robin more time to find a second husband and build that relationship
B
4 years
Personally, I think Sebastian is around 27 and Maru around 20-23, I think this because Demetrius has dialogue about him wanting her going to college some day. I think that Abigail is probably 23 and Sam around 25 and I think Penny is 26 since she is a teacher. I don’t think Harvey has a crush on Maru I just think she’s the only person in town he really knows so he worries extra about her.
@@Angie_fluffy_b00tz-sg3uz great insight! Thanks for sharing 😊
I got the vibe that Harvey and Maru are friends. Since she often comes in to help Harvey out.
I don’t think sam is 25 I think him and abigail are a lot younger, like 19-22. The reason I say this is be because of their relationships with their parents. In one of the heart events same has to sneak you into his bedroom. Abigail’s parents also still struggle to treat her as an adult.
Also for sam, he has a brother who is in 2nd grade, so about 7-8 years old. They definitely have a larger age gap but I think it’s more realistic that sam is in his early 20s for this reason.
I also think that Abigail is about that age group, given how Pierre is and Abigail's heart events shows that maybe she lacks the life experience to know what might be dangerous or not as halien6384 mentioned. Sam can stay the age he is, as he knows his way around the big city. I also think that Abigail has a crush on Sebastian, to which he seems to be oblivious to.
I also googled how long to get a nurse certification, which is 2 years. That's not a lot but that means that, if Maru concluded high school and did her certification 20 would be one of the youngest. 21 is considered an "adult" without restrictions in most places. But if Abigail is the youngest, that mean if Abigail is 23, Maru would be at least a few months or a full year older at very least.
Also some people might take sabaticals before going to college, which makes Maru's age a little more "free-flowing". Is she taking a sabbatical? Using her work at the clinic to save for college funds? I should revisit her events probably
@@Angie_fluffy_b00tz-sg3uz OMG THIS IS EXACLTY WHAT MY AGE HEADCONONS FOR THE TRIO WAS!
Theory B only because Seb’s attitude towards Robin’s new husband makes sense as someone who very use to living with just his mom but was force to accept her new boyfriend as his new father figure, and the anxiety that came from seeing his parents separating at a young age but old enough to remember to cause his anxiety.
And for a fun fact there was cut dialogue of Robin talking to her ex meaning that his father is alive but has no contact/ limited relationship with Seb.
@@LuckydayHello oh really? That's awesome. Where can I find other cut content?
also I think Sebastian remembers his dad, if his dad left at toddler gae most people don't have memories until like 4 or 5
Theory B. While Sebastian looks like someone who is in their late 20s, Maru looks like she hasn't reached her mid 20s yet, so I believe the age gap between the two of them is larger. Plus, if I'm remembering Sebastian's dialogue correctly, he always gave off that vibe of he remembers the early years of his mom and Demetrius's relationship or around the time Maru was born and as they grew up, he noticed that Maru was getting more attention and favoritism for being the younger sibling and expressing interest in science like her dad. That led to Sebastian developing resentment for his sister. So yeah, I think Sebastian and Maru have a larger age gap.
Like their age gab is at least 5-7 years at minimum. Sebastien is old enough to ride a motor and because he his the black sheeo of the family he probably paid it all out of his own poket.
So he probably is around 27-29 while Maru is probably 21-23 years old.
Theory B all the way. If we consider Seb and Maru’s interests in life, it makes perfect sense for Seb to hang out with “younger rebellious geeks” and for Maru to hang out in the older circles. Seb works part time remotely in a tech job, plays DnD, hangs out by the lake outside smoking and being all sad lol. Aby and Sam match that energy.
I’m a bit like Maru myself, being in my 20’s in a medical field with a passion for science overall. I’m mostly hanging out with people, who are MUCH older than me too. So it wouldn’t be a far fetch for Maru to be friends with Penny and Harvey, who are much more mature mentally as well as physically.
And PLUS - Pelican Town is a very small town. Small towns bring together people of different ages, cause there’s not so much to choose from in terms of best friends
100%, I think the fact that it's an incredibly small and isolated town is a very overlooked part in a lot of theories. Thanks for commenting!
Honestly, even from someone living in a larger city than pelican town, I have friends/am friendly with a lot of different people of different ages. It's just life, especially when you work a lot and meet different people. Which, Sebastian being a shut-in by choice and by job, really does make more sense for him to be friends with younger people especially when factoring in his interests. So I agree 100%.
Theory B. I think Seb's dad (most likely IMO) dying unexpectedly or separating from Robin when Seb was a little older makes more sense. Compared to a two-year-old, an older kid will have a harder time accepting a new parental figure and may even think their former parent is being cruelly replaced (don't you love them anymore?). This would explain a lot of that resentment. There are ways to do it right, but when Robin met Demetrius, she fell in love hard and fast and tied the knot before Seb was completely on board. They then had a child soon after getting married and since Seb still had memories of his previous family it suddenly seemed like he was being replaced too. He was suddenly an outsider, a smear on their image of a perfectly happy family, because he still dearly missed his dad.
With theory A there would have to be some other reason Seb didn't accept Demetrius as his father. Maybe there was a one-time event that shattered the relationship, Demetrius actually showed a lot of favoritism, or....?
Seeing how Demetrius interacts with both Maru and Sebastian, I think that there is no question whether there is any favoritism or not 😅
@@alicjak700 definitely looking at them presently. I wonder if Demetrius didn’t try at first to build a relationship with Sebastian just to have his efforts thrown back in his face (you’re never going to be my dad. You can’t replace him). At some point you’re going to stop trying to build a relationship with your adult step-son who insists that he hates you. Just an idea.
Them marrying quickly could also mean Robin got pregnant before she was married to him and both thought the most logical option was the quickly tie the knot.
Unfortunately, I know someone in my family who got pregnant by another guy WHILE STILL MARRIED and so she divorced her first husband and married the guy she had an affair with to cover the whole thing up. That would shed negative light on Robin and I don’t think she’s the type to do that.
Imo Sebastian is 25 and Sam is 22, with Maru being 20. I have a similar age gap with one of my sisters, five years may not seem like much but growing up it felt like she was completely at a different stage than me, I can understand how that can set up resentment. I also believe Robin and Demetrius may have had Maru before getting married, with Maru perhaps living with Demetrius throughout early childhood. Combining for an even more rocky start.
As for Sam, him being 22 allows leeway for his ‘teenage’ behavior yet still allows him to have had gone to highschool with Seb since they both tend to reminisce about the ‘good old days’.
@@cakefaceLala oooh very interesting!
I HOPE there's an age gap between Seb and Maru, because it paints Demitrius in a REALLY bad light if they're close in age... How bad a stepfather does he have to be if he became Seb's dad at two years old and they act like this about each other?
Personally I think the age gap is 3-5 years. Sebastian was old enough to have an opinion on Demetrius and notice the attention Maru was getting.
On a related note: a video about the ages of characters from mods like Expanded or Ridgeside would be interesting.
Great idea, I wrote it down!
Sebastian's wedding dialogue shows that he and Maru have been togheter since childhood, and the fact that he says this comparing them to his own children gives the impression that they were very young, so maybe they just have 2 to 3 years apart from each other(it would be very curious for Robin to divorce and find someone so quickly with a child from the previous relationship, but who can guarantee that she knew she was pregnant with Sebastian before getting divorced?)
But then again 5-6 year old is also pretty young.
There are "Age" and "Love Interest" entries in the game's file, as well as some other dispositions like "Social Anxiety", "Manner" and such, which mostly affects generic NPC lines they use. (For example, a "Polite" NPC will use a list of milder words; A "Kid" will react to certain player behaviors with a list of childish remarks.) These are previously in NPCDispositions.xnb, now merged into Stardew Valley\Content\Data\Characters.xnb after 1.6 with some changes.
Here's some interesting info:
Abigail, Maru, Penny, Sam and Sebastian are categorized as "Teenager"s, while all other marriage candidates are "Adult"s.
The 10 original marriage candidates are mutual "Love Interest"s with their official pairing, including Maru & Harvey. Emily and Shane has no "Love Interest".
"Love Interest" isn't necessarily mutual, for example, Marnie is Marlon's "Love Interest", Lewis is Marnie's "Love Interest", but Lewis loves nobody.
Additionally, in the CS codes for the Theater, there are defined friend groups that would go to watch movies together. Abigail, Sam and Sebastian are obviously friends; But apparently Harvey, Maru and Penny are in a lesser pronounced group, too. (They stand together at the Flower Dance, go to the Theater together, Penny talks about Harvey crushing on Maru... But none other than that is shown in the game.) Notice how Harvey is the only non-"Teenager" here? Now this gives me a theory that at the time most NPC related stuff were completed, Harvey still had his older design where he was significantly younger. (This can be backed up by the fact that Alex is still referred to as "Josh" in some of the codes, and NPCs' sprites noticably resemble their older portraits more.) CA didn't bother to change it later on, thus the whole "Harvey/Maru" age gap thing is now read as weird. Current version Harvey has the least amount of non-event NPC lines among all marriage candidates, which is only ~20 lines (he is "boring" because he was did dirty brooo), while others have ~60 to 90, and I suspect that is due to so many of his previous design lines being scrapped along with the portrait, and maybe some of those could even hint their little friend group. But that's just my wild speculation.
@@glycine7695 wow, this is great information, thanks for sharing!!!!
I remember seeing a reddit ama with Concerned Ape years ago where someone asked him about those dispositions and ages and he said not to read too much into those tags because he says that the "teen" and "adult" tags weren't meant to indicate anything like ages or anything like that but was meant as general throwaway tags to indicate which of the candidates were independent and living alone and who still lived at home with family and made regular refrences to parents in the valley.
@@thebeardedgamer1245 Yeah, he specifically said he imagined them to be 22 to 25. Although some marriage candidates seem really teen coded writing-wise. From my datamining, the dispositions don't do much in the current version, and Age in the code only affects very few lines, and who attends the Egg Festival egg hunt.
Honestly? I think theory A is more fun because of the marriage aspect between Robin and Demetrius. I could see Robin stumbling her way into him a year after her divorce and falling for him pretty quickly, he's a responsible and sensible guy with probably a good income. They get married rather quickly and have Maru and that obviously bothers Sebastian. I headcanon Sebastian as autistic and dealing with rapid change can be difficult for loads of autistic people, he wasn't given a lot of time adapt and it left him a bit resentful towards Demetrius and Maru from the beginning. I also thinknit would explain why Robin and Demetrius bicker or fight so often, since they basically got married in their honeymoon phase and didn't have a lot of time to also see each others most annoying habits or personality traits. But that's just me though :3
Seb was definitely a young kid probably young enough to not remember his dad since he doesn’t talk about him at all, but then again it could be because his dad was not a nice person
Are there any theories about Penny’s father? I know there’s dialogue about him leaving because he felt trapped, but it might be fun to explore some thoughts on who he might be and what he might be like
I gotta make a video!
Idk about y'all, but a potentially tight timeline between Robin's first and second marriages brings up the possibility of an affair, which could contribute to the strained relationship between Demetrius and Seb
a doctor in his mid 30s? Guess Harvey is a hot item after all - and didn't catch that Shane would be that old,I just thought his..erm .. "lifestyle" had taken its toll
@@jakobraahauge7299 I def think his lifestyle has aged him even more, for sure!
most dr's train well into 30's harvey prob nearer to 40 as he has his own practice meaning he has to be 40- 45 range its 8 years of uni then 2- 3 years of residency and then another cppl years to train in whatever feidl of medicine so u talking hes 40 plus
I believe their's a large age gape between Maru and Sebastion.
Reading a lot of the comments, the one's that mention Robin assume it's her ex-husband who cheated on her, not the reverse. Considering their's a lot of little things that could paint a picture of Robin being willing to cheat. Especially with how Demetrius doesn't seem to have learned how to communicate with Robin better and the reverse for Robin, with them being married at least for twenty years.
I believe Maru and Sebastion having a large age gap, not only with how they treat each other, but also how their parents treat them. Demetrius at best treats Sebastion as a distance obligation, since he doesn't mention Sebastion at all, and Robin is constantly worried about Sebastion. Maru mentions how she wishe's she had a brother, after saying how Sebastion hardly talks to her and if he even likes her, since he doesn't act as a brother. With Sebastion mentioning when he's married to the PC, that Maru probaly like's it that he's gone, with another mention of how underappreciated he felt at home. The only time we hear of Demetrius interacting with Sebastion is when he told him to destroy his snow goon. Maru other than how Sebastion treats her, has a great relationship with her parents, mentioning how both parents would include her in parts of their jobs.
A lot of people seem to think Maru is a nurse, when in fact their's no mention of Maru being a nurse at all in the game. Maru and Harvey mention that it's a job and nothing more. It being mention that Harvey likes Maru being around, since she can fix the machine's if they break. And what we see Maru do is administrative work, with her handling something in a beaker, and since she's not treating patients, she would only need a certificate in chemicals and biohazards/biowaste, if the region required it, both of which would only need a high school diploma or GED, and than a test. Even with a more stringent requirement of needing hours of actual experience, most certifications would allow her to take the test and have a probationary certification, if the place she's working at is willing to vouch for her while she earns the hours needed their. And also it's a part time job. Also she works with her dad in his lab, and Demetrius is the type to have Maru certified to help in all functions of his lab, which include chemicals, as soon as possible. So I always place Maru, along with Haley, at 18.
I take that Sebastion never went to college, with how Robin mentions that he doesn't seem to care about his future. And with his personality and his general predisposition, with him being a independent coder, which doesn't require any type of degrees. I believe him to be about 25. It would also fit with Demetrius not liking that Sebastion not going to college/university, being a bad example for Maru.
I believe that Sam and Abigail are the same age, about 19 or 20, with Sebastion being the cool older kid that they followed around, and who eventually got used to them and became friends with during their teenage years.
With Penny being in her early twenties and Leah with Emily in their mid-twenties.
With Harvey being in his late thirties, Shane in his mid-thirties, and Elliott late twenties or early thirties.
I always thought Maru was an older teen if not 20 years old. She's a receptionist at the doctor's office, but doesnt do actual health care. Sebastian works on in-depth work on his computer, as if he has a degree, putting Sebastian at around 25-28 in my opinion. I think theory B makes sense. Also, Penny could be like 22 or 23 since people can become teachers straight out of college. I know she's never been out of Pelican Town before, so I'm spitballing concerning her generic age in relation to her occupation, which would explain her and Maru's closeness. Additionally, Maru's comment about Harvey seems more like she's creeped out that a guy his age (37-40) would even be potentially interested in her.
If you believe Theory A; it is also possible that Robin knew Demetre before the loss of her first husband. However, I don't think this supports the distance Sebastion feels between himself and his sister. It isn't impossible, but i still feel they would be closer even if Demetre wasn't a good stepfather.
Theory B is personally the one I agree more with. Sebastion went to college, came back, and Maru is expected to still go. If we assume most colleges are at least four years, this alone will put Maru in the 21-25, or younger, age range is we agree that Sebastion is at least 29 years old. Though even if we knock Sebastion down to 26, Maru can still easily be 19-21.
It might help understand Ape's culture; are people allowed to drink alcohol earlier or later in life? America is 21 and older; while some countries are 18 and older, or younger if with a parent or guardian; also, there are some countries that you have to be much older to drink.
I personally don't recall a scene in which Maru goes into the Tavern with her folks. She lets that be their thing. Robin and Demetre dance and it always looks like Robin is smiling, like this was something she couldn't do with her pervious partner. Sebastion is old enough to be in there on his own, and I believe Gus wouldn't serve to anyone underage. Gus does have a wide range of items for sale, and with the town being so small, he knows everyone's parents/guardians.
Overall, I believe the age theory video was wonderfully done with a lot of thought put into it! Keep up the good work :3
@@ForeverKite42 thank you for sharing your insights and for the kind words!!!
Personally I always felt like Sebastian was in his mid to late twenties. Thinking him being at least 28 years old.
If we look at it at a realistic stand point (to me personally for Maru’s sake.)
Maru would have been in nursing school in order to work with Harvey, doing science on the side. With that Maru could be a student nurse, working in a hospital. However I say Maru is either 26 or 25 due to her completing the nursing program and able to work with Harvey as a practicing nurse.
In the stands as your theory, I kind of see as Robin probably did divorce Sebastians’s dad with in the first year of Sebastian’s life. Probably having a co-parenting relationship with her exhusband. On the days Sebastian is with his actual dad. Robin actually go out meet Demetrius and probably fell in love with him after a few dates. Gotten married. Then living with his stepfather. While his actual dad probably ended the co-parenting thing. At the age of two shortly before Maru was born. I was thinking of it like that.
I base their ages based on their stories and level of maturity.
Sebastain has a freelance job and is saving up to move out, Sam says he should probably move out soon, and Abigail is finishing up school. Given the fact Sebastian talks about having a few gigs up his sleeve but doesn't enough money to move out, Abigail's parents said they're "letting her stay until she finishes school" (probably implying college), Sam is just NOW realizing he's a grown up and needs his own place, and since they all hang out together and in a way, still behave like teenagers I'd actually put them 21-24. Sam and Sebastian definitely give childhood friends vibes and they're both equally immature but in different ways.
Maru on the other hand talks about GOING to college, as in she isn't enrolled yet. Maru is a smart girl with actual experience in her field, so she isn't here because she was wait listed, and she already knows what she wants to do both in terms of career and college, so she probably isn't taking a gap year. And if Sebastian is in his early twenties that would make Maru even younger. I'd put here at 18-19. She also seems even MORE immature based on her break up dialogue. "Not good enough for you huh?" before going "Okay fine", this seems to me a very 19 year old thing to say.
If I was getting specific I'd put Maru at 19 and Sebastain at 24 based on their stories, personalities, and dynamics.
.... It's my time to bring in more personal lore on myself ..... At 19 I married a 34 y/o man and had his kid. 0/10 don't recommend. But it is possible for someone young as 18-19 to fall for an older and even marry them even by today's standards.
My personal theory is that they have a 3 year age gap, I think Sebastian’s father walked out and Robin started dating Demetrius, but Robin got pregnant with Maru they married
these age guessing videos are so fun to watch they’re gonna make me do my own version, i love these!
@@lilaott6495 glad you like them!!!
I read them as being fairly close in age, and that the distance between Sebastian and Maru is something that grew once they were in their teens and Demetrius’ favoritism of Maru became more recognizable. I read Maru as being about 23 and Sebastian as around 25-26. I get the impression that Seb didn’t go to college and was never encouraged to, whereas Maru always was and Demetrius resents that she followed her brother’s path of success without a degree, and blames Sebastian for that. How Demetrius and Robin ended up together….i have no idea how they even met. But I can definitely see Demetrius seeing baby Sebastian and thinking they raising him would be as easy as following the parenting books and nothing more.
I also don’t read Harvey as old as 35+. I think he’s only about 32. Old enough to feel “old” but not old enough to realize he’s still fairly young. And he’s so awkward that his crush on Maru comes across (to me) as more proximity based than anything else.
I lean towards Maru being in her early twenties (around my age: 21-22), and Seb being between 24 to 26, with Abby also being in her early twenties (maybe one year older than Maru) and Sam being the same age as Sebastian. It is stated in the game that Sebastian didn't go to college and would have already graduated if he had gone (in my country you graduate from college at 22/23, idk if this is like this in every country) and we also see that Abby is not that close to him as Sam is, i personally believe that Sam and Seb are childhood friends and Abby came a bit later to the picture, as Seb states that Sam is his only friend in town. About the Harvey and Maru thing, I have friends who have dated or are dating people 8+ years older than them, so I just personally don't feel weirded out with him being 30-31-32 and having feelings for Maru as in my headcannon everyone you can date is 20+ years old.
But yeah, that's my personal theory. With the Demetrius and Robin thing I lean towards them already being friends before her separation and feelings growing rapidly because of him being there for her (I have seen this happen in real life too), which would make Sebastian and Maru have a small age gap
I think Seb and Maru have a large-ish age gap. From my own experience, bonding with an older sibling (my fully biological brother and I are 13 apart in age) is difficult, especially if there are only two siblings (on the other hand, my best friend has two siblings, each 5 years apart and she's the eldest, well, except for an older half brother whom she doesn't really talk to)
Regarding age gaps in friendships, I'm twenty and have two friends whom I've met online through Genshin Impact. They're 16 and 14. They're my ride-or-dies. Considering Seb, Sam and Aby are in a band together, I think they bonded over their interest in music quite a while ago (Aby goes close to Seb's house to play the flute if I'm not wrong and Seb could have heard her play and they strated talking.) As for Maru and Penny, it's possible that they were schooled together. Both of them are pretty smart and it's possible there was someone who filled the teacher role when Penny wasn't old enough to teach. And considering Pelican town is very small, there wouldn't be a reason to teach each grade individually as there would only be 2 children max in each grade.
There's probably mistakes in this, but this is how I feel about it^^
i can confirm friends can have huge age gaps. my best friend and i have a 9 and a half year gap.
i think Sebastian and Maru are fairly close in age because of a dialogue from Sebastian about "him and Maru fighting a lot as kids" or something like that, i don't believe he would be speaking about fights of when he was at his mid teens yk but i'm not sure tbh
I feel like Maru, Sam and Abigail are the youngest marriage candidates. They still take part in the egg hunt, which is usually an event for kids. Sam has the line about not having seen his dad for three years, and Kent says Sam grew up while he was gone. So that makes me think that Sam is 20 at the oldest. Abigail is taking online college classes, so would most likely be 18-22. Maru hasn’t gone to college, so I feel like she is 18-19. I don’t think Demetrius would let her miss out on college. Sebastian says if he had gone to college he would be making six figures by now. So I feel like he would at least be 24 to have graduated from college. Personally I think of him as around 25. That would put him at 6 or seven when Maru was born, which I think would have made him old enough to be resentful of the new father figure coming into his life, and enough to put some distance between him and Maru from the start. I think that the Harvey-Maru thing is platonic, Harvey seems socially awkward and she probably helps him interact with people more normally. Emily and Shane dance together and there is no romance implied there, so I don’t think dancing at the flower dance has to indicate romance. There is that line from Penny, but maybe she is just trying to pair her with someone? Personally I ship Maru with Penny. 😂
I lean more towards theory A, I just don't see a huge age gap between them, though their relationship somewhat reminds me of me and my sister's relationship. We are five years apart and complete opposites, but what I find interesting is the more we get to know them, the closer they seem to become.
A part of me thinks Sebastian was old enough to remember his father when the man left his life, and that they had a pretty good relationship. If Robin and Demetrius had a couple years between Robin's first marriage ending and Maru being born, I can see some hostility towards his step-father.
Also, Demetrius gives me autistic vibes; high functioning, yes, but still on the spectrum. As someone whose younger brother is also on the spectrum, it's easier for me to get along with him than people who are newer in life. To me, thats just "how he is". If Sebastian was old enough to remember his bio dad, he might compare his step-dad to his memories and think, "that's not how a dad should be like".
So, I do think the gap is more than 3 years. Just maybe not more than 7. Just enough time to have good memories of someone who isn't there anymore.
I think another tip may be the fact that Sebastian owns a motorcycle. (this will contain a lot of speculation, which is not confirmed in-game in any way)
We don't know the economy and it might be a simple visual shortcut that doesn't represent the reality of the in-game world, but motor vehicles don't seem to be enough of a commonplace in the valley for it to be a gift from someone. I don't think it's new, based on the fact that he tinkers with it himself - probably he bought a used one. He might've needed to do a course and an exam to have a license, too. This doesn't read to me as someone who started a freelance job yesterday - even if we assume that he doesn't have to contribute much to the household expenses, he probably had to save up a bit to buy a vehicle, getting a license and learning its maintenance took time. Even considering they're a family of tech savvy people, they're not mechanics (ironically, the closest one to this field of interest is Maru - despite the lack of connection, they definitely have some similarities). It's still a stereotypically young person's hobby, but one someone develops as an adult, who's legally allowed to drive, and it's not his only hobby. I think he's got enough experience to be comfortable in his job - so he had to work for at least a few years. I'd also support theory B when it comes to the age gap, because it's more difficult to connect for siblings with a larger age gap. 2 or 3 years would make Maru and Sebastian be on a similar developmental stage and so they wouldn't have much choice but to spend a lot of time on similar activities. I'd say the age gap between them is at least 5 years, perhaps more.
Maru is mentioned as someone who haven't gone to college yet (and may do so in the future) - I think she may be 19-23, depending on the education system. I don't think she's an actual nurse, she seems to mostly help at the lab and she mentions helping with paperwork at the clinic. I'd put Sebastian at 25-29 maybe, which isn't far off from Your prediction.
As for Harvey, I don't think he has a very clear crush on Maru, or at least if he has one he keeps it appropriate - his quotes during Maru's heart event seem to be from the position of a mentor, they don't seem to be even remotely on the same level. The beach quote could point to a crush, or could be something awkward but inconsequential, connected to the fact that Harvey doesn't have many friends at all. IIRC, they also dance together at the flowers dance, but I think that's a case of Maru being kind of isolated, and not having any male friendships outside of work. I think Penny is playing matchmaker a bit, even if Maru is her best friend - being married with kids is Penny's calling, so she may want the same kind of happiness for her friend. I don't think Harvey is in his late 30s - he does seem to genuinely care for his patients, which is stereotypically a trait of younger doctors, who are not yet burnt out from decades of difficult work. We don't know how the healthcare system works in the game, maybe there are dotations helping to establish clinics in the rural areas? I think Harvey is in early-to-mid 30s, which makes an age gap between Maru and him still big, but not so big he could easily be her father, or something.
Theory B and here is my reasonings.
1. The strain on Sebastian and Maru’s relationship. I personally think Sebastian’s father passed away at a young age and that once demitrius enter the picture Sebastian gets jealous because he had his mother to himself prior to this, then Maru enters the picture and is treated like the golden child and this further depressed Sebastian leading to the edgy emo personality he has.
2. If we keep Sebastian at age 29 and maru at 24 that would make the most sense to me, as maru would have been able to go to college and get a medical degree to work at the clinic at the very least.
In regard to the friends I think Abigail, Sam and penny are all younger, all in their early 20’s, based on appearances and personality. Plus, penny doesn’t necessarily have to be a teacher, Vincent and Jaz could be homeschooled and she is just being paid to be a tutor for them both and why she still lives with her mother Pam. But that’s just my personal opinion.
Theory A sebastian just doesn't feel that old to me
How old would you place Sebastian and Maru?
@@sodorart I'd put Maru at 18/19 and Sebastian at 21/22
Theory B, up to ten years. As creepy as it seems I do headcanon Maru to be quite young, 21 at the oldest. The stinkeye that Demetrius gives us in the lab if he even gets the IDEA that your farmer might be interested in her is Real. The rift between Demetrius and Sebastian is also quite Real, it's the kind of distance you tend to get from someone who was old enough to remember his dad, remember the divorce, and resent Demetrius for coming in to date his mother. Sebastian was old enough to say "you're not my real dad" and understand it was hurtful.
As for Harvey, I do wonder if the attraction between Harvey and Maru started as an overprotectiveness on Harvey's part. Yes it IS creepy if Maru is half his age and also why Harvey never acts upon it. As for her job in the clinic, the wiki calls Maru a nurse but I call nuance. Her job is to stand at the counter all day, making Medical Assistant a viable option. My local community college offers a program, it's 140 hours long from start to finish. That's long in comparison to some online courses I found on a cursory search, including some six week courses with a GED being the only prereq. And if she's been helping out in her father's lab since she was in high school, it makes sense for Harvey to trust her with patient samples and small labwork tasks, she'd be a 20 year old with 5+ years lab experience.
As for Sebastian not being on the list of older bachelors, consider 30 is not actually old. And, let's face it, if half the guys were on the 'older bachelor' list, would that list have maintained impact? Or would it have been Weird to see a 'hot older guys' list with half the eligible town in it.
I think both that theres an big ish age gap (5 years) but that you put them a bit older than they are. Specifically because I believe Maru graduated HS early, thereby leading her to also graduate college early. I think shes about 20, having graduated HS at 16 and now either just finished a BSN or is in one of her last semesters and doing clinicals with Harvey. Thereby putting a strain on her and Sebastians relationship from 1. The age gap. 2. The achievement gap. 3. The age Sebastian would have been when Robin remarried/met Demetrius and his young kid inability to cope.
Theory B I think is more likely. Just getting to know Robin, I can’t see her marrying Demetrius so quickly after Sebastian’s father was out of the picture. There was probably a long while of dating before she remarried. Plus, I feel like Sebastian had to have lost his father (through divorce or because he passed away) at an older age in childhood in order to become more resentful of his stepfather. I know the resentment of a stepparent can occur at really early ages too, but that’s just my take on it.
I guess I question the order of events. Getting pregnant with Maru could have been an accelerator to Robin getting remarried.
I lean towards B but I don't think he died - I think Sebstian dad wasn't a good person. Notices how his dad is never brought up? Usually families dymnaics are brought up someway, somehow if there important. if Sebstiasn dad was a loving mam who died I'm sure either Sebstian or Robin would mention him. But I also think they broke it off when Sebstian was little, so he has no real memory of him. Robin was a single mom so having Demtrius suddenly around was a lot, didn't help he couldn't bond with Demtrius who I also thing is at fault for that too. Once Maru was born he was probably neglected as the new baby needed more attion. leading to the now strained dynamic in the families. Demitruis favoritism towards is daughter probably is also the reason Sebstian and Maru relationship is so strained. Even though Sebstian must be very smart too,
This probably why he wished to live in a city, not cause he hated the village but cause he didn't feel at home.
but I think there age gap also might be 5 or 6 years. SO like, its in the middle of large and small. But long enough to make bonding hard. Like Sebstian is a teen and Maru would still be a child for example.
My thinking...
Abigail and Sam are probably around 19-20. Considered adult but have yet to truly mature.
Shane is obviously over 21 (considering the law in the US) but I would believe probably more around 23, possibly a bit older, 24-25 top. He's allowed to drink and had some time to get into trouble and rack up even more trouble which got him to go and live with his aunt in order to try to turn his life around (at least that's his family wishes).
Harvey is probably in his late 30s. He's a doctor which would take him several years to get to a point where he can have his own independent practice (Early 30s) so I would assume he did his studies, worked maybe a bit in the city and decided to open his practice. With all that, the time it could take I assume late 30s.
Elliot is probably in his 40s. He lives alone on a beach in a backwater town and seems jobless. My guess is midlife crisis.
Sebastian is probably around the age of Abigail since he is friend with her and Sam. He's still showing sign of lack of maturity and teen habits some I think that would be a fair assessment.
Since Maru is younger as confirmed by ConcernedApe that would put her around 18-19 if Sebastian is 19-20. The fact that she work in the clinic doesn't mean she's has any medical training, don't let the nurse outfit fool you. She's probably a medical assistant at best on that regard.
Penny I believe would be between mid and late 20s. She matured and is trusted to teach and not turn Skywalker on the younglings.
Emily is obviously above 21 (again assuming US law) since she work behind the counter at a bar. By guess would be mid 20s since she is trusted to care for the house while her parents are touring the world.
Haley is probably the younger sister being early 20s. She hasn't matured yet and clearly not responsible enough yet to care for the house properly with her sister.
All that... IMO of course :)
@@alexandrebrochu4265 so 1-2 year difference between Sebastian and Maru?
@@sodorart Maybe that could make sense. What if Maru wasn't "planned" but a happy accident? If Robin kinda rebounded from her breakup and married Demetrius because she got pregnant? It would explain why they don't seem to gel as a couple and the resentment Sebastian feels for Demetrius.
I actually think that Shane is around 35-40 because in a secret note he's mentioned as one of the older bachelors alongside Elliot and Harvey, and considering of how he speaks about his younger days twenties don't really fit him^^
I genuinely think that maybe when Sebastian's dad either moved away or died he could have become very shy hence why he may be older than his friends as he started coming out of his shell more perhaps as a way to get out of the house with his mum's new husband and his new baby sister. Hence maybe why he is a bit older than Abigail and Sam who may have grown up being friends.
This kinda changed my view of Harvey
I think Maru is 22-25 and Sebastian is 29.
About Harvey and Maru: Growing up I always heard that the minimum socially acceptable age for someone to date is half their age plus 7 (this falls apart under 14 lol). If Harvey is 34, dating a 24 year old is considered okay by that standard. Assuming Maru is on the younger side and Sebastian is 29, Maru could be 24. Or Maru could be 22 and Harvey could feel super guilty about his crush on her, which could be an additional reason for him to not even try to pursue her beyond anxiety.
My mom purposely spaced 5 years between myself and my brothers (they are 5 and 10 years younger than me) because she thought it would eliminate sibling rivalry, but it just made bonding take way longer. Middle brother and I started to get close when I was a senior in high school and he was in sixth grade. I acted (and still do to an extent) more like a parent to my youngest brother than like a sister. Adding in the half- to that dynamic and unequal treatment from Demetrius could easily keep their relationship strained for much longer, too.
My head cannon is Seb and Maru don’t have a big age gap because Robin coped with the loss of her husband by marrying again instead of taking time to grieve which is why it seems like Demetrius and Robin don’t really love each other but don’t hate each other either
after reading comments in the last video someone had a good point about Demetrius. I think it's the 2 heart event with maru where Demetrius acts very overbearing towards u in a "don't break my daughters heart" way. so if it makes u think abagail is young for her mom to treat her in this manner than maru must be young too. I would put maru in a age similar to Abigail. honestly my bet is a 5 year age gap with Sebby, so I would say she's 22 and he's 27 which would also mesh better with his friend group. it honestly doesn't take that many years to get a bachelor's in computer science and if got a job right out of college he could have been working as early as at 22 (but I don't think that's his game now). and as far as Harvey having a crush on someone MUCH younger, honestly that happens all the time sadly enough so that doesn't change anything there.
I think theory B would make more sense than theory A.
Sebastian has finished his studies but he's still in an "initial" working phase, one in which he works part-time and still needs to make a name in his field. Name that would allow him to get better job opportunities, which would allow him to move to the big city.
Maru on the other hand is working part-time, but still needs to go on with her studies. If the age gap was small, I would expect Maru to be actively studying, like Abigail is.
Now, for the family side of things... A bigger age gap would mean that Sebastian was old enough to remember the trauma and the stress caused by his parents ' separation. Seeing your parents separate, and on top of that seeing a new man take your father's place could be the reason for him being distant from the family and keeping by himself.
Looking into the family's dynamics makes me also think that probably Robin's first husband could have been a good father, but a bad husband. A father good enough to cause Sebastian to be uncomfortable at having a man that tries to take his father's role away, and a husband bad enough to cause Robin feel the need to distance the man from her family. Given also how Demetrius behaves towards Sebastian makes me think that he knows Robin's first man, and knows how bad he was towards her. Enough to cause Demetrius to project his negative feelings onto the man's son.
I always see Seb’s bio dad being emotionally abusive to him, hench why he has social anxiety but maybe that just him feeling the trauma of being abandon by his dad.
It's possible that Robins and Demetrius mariage start as a deal not becouse of love. They both realy practical persons, Demetrius even to the point of being realy weird in his practicality. Maybe they was friends before and after Robins first husband left her pregnant/with realy smal child alone, Demetrius sugest deal. He give her financial stability and place to live while she take care of all house chores so he can focus on his sciense reserch. But over time they start acting more like a copule and less as a roommates.
This don't answer the question about Sebastians and Marus age gap but might explain other problems in this family. Also, I think age gap is something around 3-5 years.
I know a friend of my parents who married a guy 10 years younger than her, and I had a teacher who also married a guy 12 years older than her (and both happily), so I don’t think it’s too out there that Harvey and Maru would like each other.
I definitely feel like Maru is the kind of girl to prefer a mature personality and not a lot of the guys scream mature and got his life together to me, especially no one around her age. Im already married but if I’m being honest, I would’ve also preferred my husband being a lot more mature than he was when we got together; would’ve saved us a lot of money and effort. 😂
theory B because doctors can start out quite young these days. i’ve encountered people who are 23 and doctors. yes we *know* is one of the top 3 oldest but i dont think any of the bachelor/ettes are pushing 40. also, marrying someone AND having a little boy already was probably a huge decision for robin, and probably was talked about with demetrius a lot, especially if her first marriage ended badly. with pregnancy being 9 months, and what i just said in mind, theory A almost feels like robin could have been cheating on her first husband with demetrius with how damn close that’d be cutting it (in my opinion.) and that doesnt really fit robin to me. it just doesnt sound like her. sebastian was at LEAST older than toddlerhood when they got married (5+)
For me this all comes down to how creepy do you think Harvey is? 😂 He is Maru’s “older” boss who wants rub sunscreen on her.
I think Maru is 25 cause Harvey wouldn’t go for anyone whose brain isn’t fully developed.
I don’t think Robin would get pregnant by two different men in a short span and also Sebastian feels very awkward 30 year oldish.
omg i didn't realize maru is robin's biological daughter fr i thought they were a blended family and maru was demetrius' daughter from a previous marriage and i assumed they were very close in age lol
So as a mother to children the age of the younger bachelors and bachelorettes, I really believe that Sebastian is no older than 25. He has some behaviors that I strongly associate with late teens and early twenties. Also, gently, age gaps in siblings affect their relationships much less than parent behavior and individual personalities.
I estimate the NPC’s ages based on who visits the saloon. Obviously Penny will avoid it regardless, but that means I think Haley, Maru, and Alex are around 20. Penny, Sam and Abigail are 21-23. I’ll put Sebastian as no older than 25. Leah, Emily and Shane late 20s. Elliot’s the hardest, but let’s say somewhere around 30. Harvey’s the oldest at around 32.
I'm sorry but I can't shake the impression I get. Maru I believe is 19. I think the reason why her and Penny are such good friends is because they are both socially awkward girls. Penny being raised by an older mother with a drinking problem and Maru's overprotective daddy who might just be a narcissistic energy vampire.
sebastian is around 24-28 maru is 22-26 probably because Robin will want to move on to get over her husband's death
Why I think Seb is like 25-22; Whilest being his spouse/girlfriend he has a dialogue where he said "I could've finished college this year" Or something like that, I breifly remember it. But I also believe in the theory of a mod I play. (Yandere mod, yes I know cringey).
I think Penny and Maru have a 1 year old gap. Harvey is disgusting to me, I know he might like her. But, I theorize Harvey is 7/8 years older, even if it's really... Disgusting. I know, my parents have that gap. But it's still ugh.
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With absolutely no proof or evidence at all, I wonder if maybe Maru is from an earlier marriage for Dimitrius that never was fleshed out, It seems weird to just have a book about making the most of your second marriage lying around unless it could be something they both read. But there is only minis proof for this theory
@@Kazealaine it's stated that Sebastian and Maru are half siblings though, not step siblings
me just to be different c 4 years in the middle
Maybe Robin cheated on and then left Sebastian's father for Demetrius. I do like Robin so I feel bad accusing her like that, but it would make sense for the age gap being smaller between the half siblings while Robin and Seb's dad separating bit later in his life. And another reason for Sebastian's and Demetrius' relationship being not the best.
Or she just divorced her ex-husband and her ex didn't want to do annything with Sebastien after they got divorced. She looks like a hard working woman so she probably doesn't see everything that happens in the house and the things she sees she probably brush it off as a father who is protective to his daughter (most parents are more worried what will happen to their daughter and don't really worry what will happen to their son if they go out)
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Help I’m too deep into sdv theories, it’s warping my perspective on everything, there not even that big of theories they just make so much sense but aren’t canon😭😭
@@The.Random.Raccoon you must dig deeper 🔍
Robin’s husband could have been a deadbeat and she cheated and divorced him afterwards.
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Sebastian deserves better so good that some players marry him