I absolutely love that they get straight to the point and not make this video easily twice as long. Im new to hunting and would like to get a rifle. This video helps a lot since i haven't heard of many of these brands.
What did you get? If you haven’t bought one yet, I’d recommend a Tikka TX3 and if you’re on a budget, a Savage 110. Both will serve you well. A good scope will help you as much or more than a good rifle.
Where’s the Weatherby vanguard?? Just bought two. 06, and 22-250.. $499. Both shoot LESS than 1/2”. The 22-250 first group was 0.183”. WAY UNDERRATED!!!
I was very disappointed not to see it or the Remington 700. If I had to buy a rifle under $1000 right now in .308 it would be the Weatherby vanguard back country without a doubt and second it would be the Remington 700
I totally agree with you. I own several higher end rifles. I visited a small gun shop in Idaho and purchased a Vanguard in 30.06 simply because it was a great package deal with VX II 3x9 Leupold mounted up. I took it to the range to wring it out. .37 inches at 100 with 180 grain Hornady Whitetail ammo. Cut, print and done.
I got a cva cascade in 30-06 and put a hs on it. I'm super happy with the rifle. The trigger is so good. I'm not a super great shot but even I got a 1 inch group at 100. I'm so happy with this rifle and absolutely recommend it to anyone looking for a good rifle that doesn't completely blow the bank.
After a long hiatus from hunting I decided it is time to get back into it and recently bought a Savage 110 VSX HUNTER XP in .243 and I love it. It came with a camo synthetic stock with adjustable length of pull, full cerakoat, adjustable accu-trigger and a Vortex Diamondback 4-12X40 from the factory for $850. It is actually my third 110 having owned two of them in the mid 90's in .243 and 7mm Rem Mag both of which were awesome shooters.
As previously mentioned, I will add it again, really surprised no Tikka. The blued/black T3x lite is easily available, new for $650 and even much less on auction sites. I've purchased multiple stainless T3x lite and superlite for $799.00 or less.
I think tikka msrp is over that price now, according to the Bass Pro catalog I just got in the mail. I’ve had a Tikka stainless for about 5 years and the price has gone up about $350.
@@TomL3grandsons Could be on stainless but nonetheless, they are all over gun broker for less than 800.00, new. I have oen on my watch list, a new stainless 300WSM at $695.00. I have a Bass Pro and a Cabela's near me. The base T3x Lite blued/black stock is $749.00. There are over 7500 Tikka listings on auction now, some are T1x despite filtering for T3x but no shortage of pages showing that base model T3x at $749.00.
@@TomL3grandsons I have a Bass Pro 12 min from me and a Cabela's 10 min from my work. The Tikka T3x Lite, blued/black is $749.00. There are over 7500 listings on gun broker for Tikka when you filter for T3x. Most are T3x but they throw some T1x in there, many are stainless, new, and several 800.00 and under. I have a stainless T3x Lite 300WSM on watch, new, priced at $695. I don't know anyone who would buy a rifle at MSRP. I haven't even seen a new production rifle for sale anywhere at MSRP in years.
Why are you surprised? Americans will always pick American rifles in any competition. It wouldn’t matter if it was a $300 Tikka they would still pick an American made rifle. Myself personally, I prefer having a rifle that doesn’t look and feel like a cheap made, poorly fit rifle, which most American rifles are, (despite being phenomenally accurate), regardless of “aftermarket support”.
11:50 "man I love that bolt it's so smooth" immediately shows 2 clips of the bolt sticking like bubblegum to the bottom of your shoe on a hot summer day 😂😂😂😂
I'm actually surprised the Ruger American wasn't the pick. After hearing his reasons why, I am not at all surprised with Ryan's pick. Aftermarket support is kind of a huge deal, for general parts availability and tailoring the rifle to your needs (when you figure out what those are) is a huge plus.
@@RyanTJohnson It doesn't "need" aftermarket parts? It just CAN take a pile of aftermarket parts. That is a very good thing to have on your side... Maybe 3 years down the road you have a few more dollars and rather than drop a wad on a new gun you could rebarrel or restock the savage and make it into whatever you want. Before all these new long range capable bolt guns came prebuilt and ready to rock from the factory, it was basically the remington 700 and savage 110 that were the base action for high accuracy builds at a reasonable price. Infact my father has a remington 700 that slowly turned into a .308 long range target rifle. Started as a .243 hunting rifle. It now has an aftermarket barrel, stock, and trigger... and the thing is deadly accurate... 1/4 MOA easy. Back then I went and got a savage 110 FCP with the mcmillan stock... it shoots .5 MOA with handloads pretty easily... but I am now thinking of rebarreling to a newer caliber and the barrel choices are plentiful. Savage also make incredibly accurate guns from the factory. In my experience, as well as all my buddies, one of whom runs a firearms department at a large store agrees that savage and tikka have some of the best out of the box accuracy.
@@RyanTJohnsonthat’s not true more expensive rifles don’t come with options you might want to add to 110 … so your base cost is still lower … just saying
As someone with a distinct preference for Finnish guns chambered in American cartridges, I would have loved to see a Tikka on that table. I guess they've moved above this price bracket, though.
I would've like to see the Zastava LK M70(Mauser clone) in the race. It has a $799 MSRP, comes in a walnut stock and has iron sights as well as a tapped receiver.
I like this platform you guys put together.. there are even more budget rifles that you can compare.. like the CZ Alpha 600 and Howa ect ect .. for 2nd round up then take top 3 from round one and round two For the finals .. Awesome job guys 👍🏽
surprised Mark didnt ask which on is available in WSM lol, both CVA and Ruger massive accuracy and reasons to choose but understand what Ryan liked about switching out barrels and bolt faces etc on the 110. taking them out in weather on a hunt to see which one handled the conditions without rust issues.
I'm only 4min in the video and can say I'd be interested in you guys buying 10 of the winner and repeating the test. Back when I bought 5 Steven's 200's in 243. One shot amazing and I sold the rest. It was really a eye opener.
Have you guys even tried to clean out the barrel to bare metal before shooting the copper bullets? Seen multiple people do that and the copper bullets are shooting lights out after they clean the gilding metal outta the barrel
The think they didn't bring up is the CVA is based on the remington 700 action. So the aftermarket availability is going to be just as much if not better than the savage
I have a Savage Axis in 30-06. Love that rifle plus I got it from Bass Pro on Blackfriday for $349 with a Weaver scope. I have since upgraded the scope, but it is an amazing rifle.
@@micmac6556 the weatherby is good too. It's just not as competitive on the pricing these days. It's like more of a intermediate rifle that edges out the model 70 and rem700 CDL in price category
Savage 110 7mm08, aftermarket synthetic stock, Timny trigger, floating barrel, and one pice scope mount. Never fails for whitetail or any other big game I just haven’t personally used it on anything other than deer.
It might have been stated, but Savage also offers the trail hunter in a “lite” version. Fluted cerakote barrel, hogue overmold stock, under 7lbs and under $550. Have one in .308 and it’s a tack driver.
They need to do a sub $500 USD video... That rifle starts sub $500 CAD ffs... Not sure of much on the market that can beat it, though today will be my first time taking mine out
You and I both ! Obviously Ruger American Gen2, but, can the Savage 110 finally get some love ? And hey Ryan, different subject, but can you get the boys to do the .358 cartridge talk already ? Us old lever heads have been pretty patient . As always, jmp
Hell yeah! I've shot a Savage 116 FCSS Weather Warrior since I was a teen. The only thing I would change is offering an AICS option with higher capacity magazines. We live in a world where the "old deer rifle" may be needed for other things. Plus I just like that system.
I own half these rifles on the table, and the CVA Cascade is far and away the best out of the bunch. That’s not saying the bunch is crap. All are very good rifles, but the CVA is just better. I went to my local gun store with a $1,200 budget. The salesman grabbed the CVA, and the snob in me kind of laughed under my breath, that was till he handed it over to me and I started running the volt and checking the trigger. I was immediately impressed with the stock and finish. The bolt was 60 degree lift, and it was smooth. The trigger was amazing, I wasn’t expecting this on a sub $700 rifle. Dual forearm swivel studs. Threaded barrel. LOP adjustable. Picatinny rails. Rigid stock with soft touch finish. Cerakote finish. 3 pos safety. Comfortable butt pad. I can’t say enough about this rifle. Plus, the best part, it’s a tack driver. My CVA hangs with my cousins Springfield 2020 at 600 yards. I think he paid $2,400 for his rifle. It is the best bang for your buck, unless you need to stay below $650.
@@brianhoxworth3881 There’s so many good options out there for affordable and accurate rifles. I just think CVA tops the list from what I’ve seen and experienced.
I have the new CVA Cascade LRH in 6.5 Creedmoor on my list. I'm debating on tha,t the Ruger American Gen II, and a Weatherby. Should I stick with the CVA? Thank you
@@bubblesismyne99 Honestly, you’d be happy with any of those three. For me personally, the fit and finish, plus the accuracy of the CVA is worth every penny. Rugers stalks are a little flimsy and they feel cheap. Nothing wrong with them, but I’ve had to Dremel the forearm because it was a little warped and touching the barrel. Not really a big deal to remove a little. The Vanguard is also an excellent rifle. The bolt lift on the Vanguard is 90 degrees compared to 70 degrees on the Cascade. Trigger pull is lighter on the CVA. Cascade has a three lug bolt while the WV has two. Plus, I like the soft touch stock of the CVA, but I like WV’s stock as well. Accuracy is excellent on all three. The Ruger is the cheaper option of the three. So if you’re on a tight budget, you honestly can’t go wrong with Ruger. My opinion, I’m picking the CVA Cascade every time. I love that rifle. Plus, they come with a threaded barrel and picatinny rails and two forearm swivel studs for bipod and sling. The CVA has LOP adjustment at the butt stock. The trigger is the best part of the rifle. Clean, light, and crisp trigger. Good luck with your choice.
You are absolutely right about the 110, I converted mine to a bench rest rig with a nice thumbhole stock and 26 inch barrel, its an absolute laser beam.
I know that Ryan knows more about rifles and cartridges than I do, but the Savage M110 has been around since 1952 and the M10 denoted a short action cartridge vs the 110 Long action. Same with the Model 11 and 111 and 16 and 116. They pretty much got rid of all of those extra numbers back in 2018/19 when they went to the new Accufit platform. All great budget friendly options sadly not many have a left hand option
You should have done them in 6.5 CM. LOL!!!!! Nice review. I like the features of the CVA, but no lefty support. The Savage Trail Hunter is also not available in a lefty, but many of the 110 variants are.
I hunt & shoot mostly with 1 or another of my X-bolt Speed Rifles, but, i happen to have 4 of the 7 or 8(?) on the table - for 1 reason or another. The win XPR I picked up because it was just too good of a bargain to pass up on at Cabela's a few years back - got it in .300 win mag, came cerakote finished, in camo, and topped with a vortex diamondback 4-16 x 44 1st focal plane with the EBR-2C - Enhanced Battle Reticle- on a pic rail with vortex pro rings. I don't like it much but it was $750 before a $100 rebate. 26" barrel + 300 win mag is a bit much to lug up and down, let alone still hunt these mountains where I live [Northern New England White Mountains]... But it's a decent shooter for $650. and the scope jumped nicely onto my X-bolt Speed for a bit until I decided on the HST. Anyway, last year, with less than 1 week before opening day of reg deer season, my oldest X-bolt in 7mm-08 (the hells canyon speed) wasn't holding a zero to save my ass. (It was just the ammo- a bad box that were causing the expansion to begin at random distances WELL before impact, as in 15 to 50 yds- they'd just fracture and no one could see where the hell the shot went) but I was in ultrasonic inpatient mode over being ready for the season and it was cold, windy, and I wasn't in the mood to start diagnostics... so I went to the my dealer and got 2 brand new cheapies #1 savage 110 with the Vortex 3-9x40 in .308 for $550. It's a very accurate little thing - dull and boring as they get, but it was a 3 shot zero at 100yds. The things I like: it's accurate, trigger is good - the accutrigger despite being a bladed trigger. I don't like - AT ALL - The absolute nightmare of the 90° throw on the bolt! I can't cycle that with even thin gloves on without hitting the scope! There's no possible way - 90 degree is insane. Also, the bolt is ANYTHING BUT SMOOTH. It's ok on when seared, but the important thing - the unseared follow up takes 3 men and an Ox to pry that SOB up to the reset point for the trigger sear. The Safety sucks too. Metal, doesn't slide smoothly, and then it's a 3 point safety so you can lock the trigger, but keep the bolt unlocked - don't forget! they both show red. Full safe is too much to do in the woods AND it's loud, 1 click up and you might forget it isn't off safety- or hunt off safe- which I ultimately have chosen because - efff that shiz that's why. A bolt lock is awesome - I have been in many situations where it has been a life saver- from catching on my jacket or backpack, or even taking a monumentus trip face first into the snow - it's nice having it locked. Especially with the savage which likes to pop up to the halfway position (it still fires though, it'll just pop down in place when you touch er off) but ya know - Browning ALMOST did this same thing with the 3 position top tang safety- and apparently my #2 budget gun plans to-- the Ruger American Gen 2 -- but wait- so Browning engineers tried that in test models/prototypes in 2008. Thank GOD for common sense coming in when they realized in action, it's a very nice way to get all F'd up between full safe, semi safe/trigger locked-bolt unlocked, and off safety ready to shoot (that is what your finger is for - it's attached to your body, and hopefully there's a brain in there somewhere - and the brain should be trained to identify the target before the finger gets the green light -- but hey, I'm only a retired marine SS what do I know, really...) So Browning was smart enough to do something different. Like put a bolt lock ON THE BOLT! Wow. What a novel idea. Now you can use the safety as a-- SAFETY, and you can cycle the bolt to eject a live round for example, without taking the rifle off safe. K so I can say that without modding the 110, it's a very nice "single shot" bolt gun. I'm all for 1 shot 1 kill. Believe you me I am -- but c'mon - I could save a lot of money and buy a single shot break action (or use one of the many I already have - and it's nice to be able to change the barrel, and all in one change your scope, chambering barrel length, type, MB? No MB? Suppressed? Not Suppressed? All in one. But it's just a single shot - what if you have 20 tangos and no backup? At least with 4+1, and 4 clips you have a chance to pick em off before you have given away your exact location - but reloading 19 times? No way. Not on my best day in the desert could I have been effective with a single shot break action rifle. But that's beside point - point is WTF is up with the throw on the 110?!? And then cycling it after firing? Mine cannot be done from the shoulder, has to be lowered to gain the amount of leverage required. Maybe it's a bad copy. Maybe I should look at the adjustments or ability to modify as you said they are great for Ryan. Or, gun #2 The Ruger American Gen 2. Also in .308 and rail ✓ scope [no ✓] so that's where the diamondback went. That one was so much smoother to cycle. 70° throw plus the curved bolt handle make it clear the scope with room to spare. Accurate - tack driver. $499 I used each for a couple hunts, and then I was curious about my X-bolt and had ordered another 2 boxes of American whitetail and 2x federal and suddenly it was back- just bad ammo- so I have 3 budgy - wait- I almost forgot I have several CVAs- my muzzleloader was the 1st CVA- they're made down south of us but still technically in New England - Connecticut Valley... I don't think I need another budget bolt gun though. But if I had to choose from the list you have: Tikka T3X Lite. Wait, No Tikka in the list... Howa 1500. That's a def shooter. Nope not there either. Well, certainly you guys would have to include a weatherby vanguard in there! No??? What the... I'm selling all my vortex gear and going back to Leupold. Have to sell the budget junkers too but it's worth it - especially that pain in the ass savage 110. Smooth action my @$$. Sloppy + everything I said already ↑ junk. Get a Tikka, or a Howa or save a up til you have enough for 2 budget junkers and get an X-bolt. You'll fall in love with the way ACTUAL smooth cycling bolts feel. There's many different GREAT choices, but it's not savage, and definitely not XPR, not Mossberg - the patriot? I mean - C'mon guys! You literally pick the same 5 and just mix up the other 2 or 3 each year. Kimber...nope. AB3 is the worst of anything Browning has put their name on. I am losing faith in y'alls judgement here... I'm also joking about a lot of things in this little novel.
I have the xpr in 308 with a vortex crossfire 2. Using Federal Premium Sierra Matchking 175gr i get .5"-.75" groups regularly. Great budget rifle and was plenty of rifle to take my moose this fall 👌
I been hunting with friends for the past 3 years. I always use their rifles. This year I can’t go with them but I want to set off on my own. So this video helped a lot to purchase my own rifle. Thanks
I have owned many savages in my life and they all did very well. This year I bought a CVA Cascade without a shadow of a doubt the CVA is the better rifle. From the trigger to accuracy the fit of the stock. I really wanted to not like the CVA but it my favorite.
You also could mention that Savage offers numerous options for the 110 from the factory depending on which model you get. So you could buy one off the shelf with all of the features of the CVA, though the CVA seems like a great rifle. Also I do not believe CVA offers a left handed model.
Shocked you guys didn’t have a Howa 1500 in here those are cheap like 600 bucks. Great video thanks for the info. I’ve been wondering about the CVA rifle.
I think, for a beginner, a Howa 1500 is a compelling option. It's a pretty classic hunting rifle, even has a hinged floor plate. That said, dealing with Legacy Sports can be challenging if you have issues with the Howa. A way around that would be to spend just slightly more and get a Weatherby Vanguard (basically a Howa 1500 made for Weatherby). That way, if you did happen to have an issue, you're dealing with Weatherby customer service and not Legacy.
Please do the same video again with 450 Bushmaster for us Straight Walled Cartridge States! CVA Cascade XT vs Bergara B14 Ridge vs Ruger American Gen 2 vs ect especially reaching out to 400 yrds!
No surprise a Ruger American gen ii got lit off first! Bought the first one Scheels put on the wall in .204 it was on the hanger all of 5 seconds. 😂 Topped it off with a Strike Eagle 4-24×50 in pro rings for a great dog town setup.
Going on 6th year using just my savage axis, no complaints. It does get rust spots fairly easy, but I don’t plan on it being a family heirloom, I’m going to abuse it till it doesn’t work, and then buy another one
It's the savage axis 2 for me. If you don't mind the spongy bolt lift it solves all your hunting needs for 350 buck. Spend the money stacking up ammo and never worry about hurting or scratching it. You just gotta buy one to appreciate it's efficiency and utility.
Straight wall area here so I bought the Axis 2 in .350 legend for exactly this reason. Mine shoots roughly MOA at 100 and took a large doe at about 125 yards last year. Just a great cheap rifle. $/lb goes way down with this rifle! lol
I have been a Savage Axis fan since I was given my first deer rifle (a Savage Axis .243) over 20 years ago. I don't know how many deer that rifle has taken, but a couple of years ago, I decided that for a long field on my family farm where I have a chance to get up to a 250 yard shot, I wanted something a little more than a 243. After careful consideration, comparing calibers, rifles, and researching what options would best suit my needs, this past season marked the first buck on a brand new Axis.308 taken a touch over 200 yards. I have no complaints with my choice, and would make it again in a heartbeat.
@@LindenHighwind 308 is a neat cartridge. I've always been one who believes caliber selection is just matter of preference with the exception of extra long range. I've seen elk killed with a 243 in the ball park of 300 yards and have seen lots of deer killed with 223 at unknown distances
I had a Savage Axis and traded for a Mossberg Patriot. I prefer the patriot in almost every aspect. It has a smoother bolt, better trigger, more accurate, better magazine, and I like the safety more.
I have the Ruger American Ranch in 300blk. Love the gun, did change the stock; I’m a lefty and the bolt hits my hand. I got a Woox stock, cost mor than my gun, but I love the looks and features. I was looking at the CVA and the Savage 110 for a 308. But now I want a 6.5 PRC. Maybe I’ll buy a 308 in one and 6.5 PRC in the other.
Last Christmas I bought a 110 Trail Hunter in 6.5 PRC. It was awful. I tried two scopes, two rings, four types of ammo, with and without the muzzle break, etc. The best it would do was over a 4" group at 100 yards, and the trigger wouldn't adjust below 4#. So it was returned to Savage in January and they verified everything I claimed. They tried to talk me into a different caliber, but I bought this for antelope and wanted to stick with it. Unfortunately the barrels were on backorder so they said to call every two to three weeks. In May I got a wonderful lady who read through my notes and said enough was enough, and offered me a Proof Research barrel as the factory barrels were still on backorder. Needless to say, I said yes and they mounted the barrel and swapped out the defective trigger. It's now a tack driver and that heavy barrel diameter is still there, but carbon fiber wrapped stainless is much lighter. It's wearing a 4x12 Diamondback and is a fantastic rifle!! I thank Savage for fantastic customer service, too. It took a while, but it was worth the wait!!
got an idea for a vortex podcast. how about a review or recommendation on the best, most stable, shooting rests for sighting in rifle scopes off a shooting bench. what are the best options out there? low end to high end. low cost to high cost.
I have a CVA Cascade in 300 win mag and my grandson has a Savage 110 ultralight in 6.5 Creedmoor. Both are extremely accurate but the Savage has ejection problems sometimes and the CVA has never failed. CVA wins for me.
Good review. Very solid on points i was asking for my sons first hunting rifle. He chose 308 due to its versatility and availability. While I went 6.5 grendel due to its deer/hog capability out to 300 yards (my limit). Anyway thanks for the reviews for his college graduation next year.
just searched all of your yearly budget rifles back to 2019 and you guys have no weatherby vans on any of them? why is this, they are a standout bang for buck, and every year they have had several offerings in the stated price range. just seems kind of strange that they never seem to make the cut yet the same 6-7 brands always seem to show up..... give a little love to them please
Each has its purpose it all depends on location and situation . I like to use axis ll when I'm in the swamp because if something happens and I loose it I'm not out much in the mountains model 110 in the forest model 70 and at the farm 44mag 1894 .
Savage Axis. With a little load development I've gotten 243, 270, 308 and 30-06 all under MOA easily. Best value out there. Wife's 243 with a Nikon was .9 out of the box. First handload was .73. I bet I could get it to .5 MOA for $400?
You guys did a good job summarizing the rifles you selected for this test, but you left out a tremendous value in the Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian and Vanguard Synthetic. With all respect for the rifles you chose, I am buying a Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian chambered for 22.250. Putting a Hawke 4-12x 40 scope on it and I'll be ready for the range. YMMV and all that other happy hoo-hoo 🤪
I really like the Mossberg Bantom Patriot. Only US made gun I could find with a wooden youth stock. Gun does its job very well and is about all we hunt with now, including me. .243
I would go with the Savage because I can get it in 7mm PRC and when I checked the CVA, it isn't offered in that. At least, I didn't see that caliber on their site.
@@tolesy00just sold my Sauer 100 7mm-08. After 1yr of trying to find a hand load it would shoot I finally decided it was a dud and bought another tikka. Two trips to the range and have a load that shot .33” at 100 and a 20 shot group into .89”.
Won my last two High Powered Rifle Silhouette competition with the Ruger American Gen II 308. I run a Vortex PST Gen I 4-24 FFP MRAD, Timney trigger, and the Ruger Stock Weights. If I win the next competition and I should move up a class. I want to run a Vortex PST Gen II 3-15 FFP MRAD since I never use above 10 power. However, I do not have any problems the PST Gen I. So, it’s had to justify the purchase.
We are fortunate to have so many great rifles available to choose from. I agree with other commenters that the Vanguard/Howa 1500 and the Tikka T3x would have been great contenders in this challenge. The Tikka may have exceeded the price range though. My personal choice would be the Cascade, but I would get the short 18" barrel model in .308 and use it full-time with a suppressor. Thanks for another great video guys!
I’d take the cascade, get the caliber you want and you don’t have to change anything. I don’t like the accutrigger. If it was a 2-stage okay. I had a save 110 that was a tack driver, heavy, but accurate. I just don’t like the pre-trigger press unless it’s a two stage.
Bang for the Buck you can't beat either of the Savages straight out of the box. I have multiple Savage's in different calibers. I actually detest the White Tail factory ammo because it is some of the most inconsistent on the shelf in that price range! Most guns on the market will preform well in most hunting situations and really is more of a shooters preference! The Rugar American 2 feels clean and functions well the Mossberg feels to be more of a budget gun but does what it's designed to do, and the ejectors don't seem to do well over time. An easy to repair or maybe even a non-issue for those whot don't shoot as much. What I tend to use the most gets outside of the budget range of rifles but I'm just kind of partial to the Belgium made BAR because you get the bolt action performance in an auto.
BOYS .... I have had 2 savage axis rifles one 270 one 06 both shot awsome. The stock wasn't great but as a budget rifle , a true budget riflesub 600 dollor rife i think it's the ɓest back woods , I don't care it if get it dirty or scratch it rifle out there.vthe 110 would be my next chioce
The Ruger Gen 2 is my pick. Way more features, comes with a rail, extremely accurate, and ceracoat to prevent rust. I think they lowballed its score in this showdown.
Out of curiosity did you do a full clean out before shooting the cx loading? It's a know issue with shooting cx ammo after traditional lead core rounds.
2:36 Franchi Momentum
3:11 Mossberg Patriot
3:56 Savage Axis
4:47 Ruger American II
6:12 Winchester XPR
7:01 CVA Cascade
8:04 Savage 110 Trail Hunter
9:05 Browning AB3
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I absolutely love that they get straight to the point and not make this video easily twice as long. Im new to hunting and would like to get a rifle. This video helps a lot since i haven't heard of many of these brands.
What did you get? If you haven’t bought one yet, I’d recommend a Tikka TX3 and if you’re on a budget, a Savage 110. Both will serve you well.
A good scope will help you as much or more than a good rifle.
@j.s.7366 I went with the savage. Thanks!
@@chris123chris82 which one? Caliber? lol
@j.s.7366 oh sorry haha. I ended up getting the savage Axis gen 2, 308. Win.
Many kudos for creating a video that quickly gets on point and doesn’t drag on, and on. Less is more. Great job.
Where’s the Weatherby vanguard?? Just bought two. 06, and 22-250.. $499.
Both shoot LESS than 1/2”. The 22-250 first group was 0.183”. WAY UNDERRATED!!!
Even Ruger American predator around 500 dollars get half inch groups at 100 yards all day ..good enough for me even the savages are accurate as hell
I was very disappointed not to see it or the Remington 700. If I had to buy a rifle under $1000 right now in .308 it would be the Weatherby vanguard back country without a doubt and second it would be the Remington 700
Remember when " Budget Rifles " were under $400.00?
Howa/vanguard should be on this list for sure
I totally agree with you. I own several higher end rifles. I visited a small gun shop in Idaho and purchased a Vanguard in 30.06 simply because it was a great package deal with VX II 3x9 Leupold mounted up. I took it to the range to wring it out. .37 inches at 100 with 180 grain Hornady Whitetail ammo. Cut, print and done.
I got a cva cascade in 30-06 and put a hs on it. I'm super happy with the rifle. The trigger is so good. I'm not a super great shot but even I got a 1 inch group at 100. I'm so happy with this rifle and absolutely recommend it to anyone looking for a good rifle that doesn't completely blow the bank.
After a long hiatus from hunting I decided it is time to get back into it and recently bought a Savage 110 VSX HUNTER XP in .243 and I love it. It came with a camo synthetic stock with adjustable length of pull, full cerakoat, adjustable accu-trigger and a Vortex Diamondback 4-12X40 from the factory for $850. It is actually my third 110 having owned two of them in the mid 90's in .243 and 7mm Rem Mag both of which were awesome shooters.
243 is an excellent round.
was waiting for Ryan to pushing everything off the table to slam down a Tikka say “Done” and walk away…..😂
The only right answer.
For real lol
the only answer. wouldnt waste any money on any of these other rifles
Was just at Scheels today, blued Tikka $600. We have 2 savage guns on the mix though. 🙄
They have a $75 rebate
I can hear Jimmy yelling from his office something about the Ruger American and a miata. 😆
As previously mentioned, I will add it again, really surprised no Tikka. The blued/black T3x lite is easily available, new for $650 and even much less on auction sites. I've purchased multiple stainless T3x lite and superlite for $799.00 or less.
I think tikka msrp is over that price now, according to the Bass Pro catalog I just got in the mail. I’ve had a Tikka stainless for about 5 years and the price has gone up about $350.
@@TomL3grandsons Could be on stainless but nonetheless, they are all over gun broker for less than 800.00, new. I have oen on my watch list, a new stainless 300WSM at $695.00. I have a Bass Pro and a Cabela's near me. The base T3x Lite blued/black stock is $749.00. There are over 7500 Tikka listings on auction now, some are T1x despite filtering for T3x but no shortage of pages showing that base model T3x at $749.00.
@@TomL3grandsons I have a Bass Pro 12 min from me and a Cabela's 10 min from my work. The Tikka T3x Lite, blued/black is $749.00. There are over 7500 listings on gun broker for Tikka when you filter for T3x. Most are T3x but they throw some T1x in there, many are stainless, new, and several 800.00 and under. I have a stainless T3x Lite 300WSM on watch, new, priced at $695. I don't know anyone who would buy a rifle at MSRP. I haven't even seen a new production rifle for sale anywhere at MSRP in years.
They are company owners u can't put things beyond wat they know or like every gun is different just like the ammo it likes best too lol 😅
Why are you surprised? Americans will always pick American rifles in any competition. It wouldn’t matter if it was a $300 Tikka they would still pick an American made rifle.
Myself personally, I prefer having a rifle that doesn’t look and feel like a cheap made, poorly fit rifle, which most American rifles are, (despite being phenomenally accurate), regardless of “aftermarket support”.
11:50 "man I love that bolt it's so smooth" immediately shows 2 clips of the bolt sticking like bubblegum to the bottom of your shoe on a hot summer day 😂😂😂😂
This gun has a super smooth feel but takes some getting used to. You have to push straight forward with is a little bit different than most rifles
LOL I noticed that too and went to see if somebody else noticed, LOL First comment! about stickiness of bolt....
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I'm actually surprised the Ruger American wasn't the pick. After hearing his reasons why, I am not at all surprised with Ryan's pick. Aftermarket support is kind of a huge deal, for general parts availability and tailoring the rifle to your needs (when you figure out what those are) is a huge plus.
If your budget rifle needs aftermarket parts it’s no longer budget.
@@RyanTJohnson It doesn't "need" aftermarket parts? It just CAN take a pile of aftermarket parts. That is a very good thing to have on your side... Maybe 3 years down the road you have a few more dollars and rather than drop a wad on a new gun you could rebarrel or restock the savage and make it into whatever you want. Before all these new long range capable bolt guns came prebuilt and ready to rock from the factory, it was basically the remington 700 and savage 110 that were the base action for high accuracy builds at a reasonable price. Infact my father has a remington 700 that slowly turned into a .308 long range target rifle. Started as a .243 hunting rifle. It now has an aftermarket barrel, stock, and trigger... and the thing is deadly accurate... 1/4 MOA easy. Back then I went and got a savage 110 FCP with the mcmillan stock... it shoots .5 MOA with handloads pretty easily... but I am now thinking of rebarreling to a newer caliber and the barrel choices are plentiful. Savage also make incredibly accurate guns from the factory. In my experience, as well as all my buddies, one of whom runs a firearms department at a large store agrees that savage and tikka have some of the best out of the box accuracy.
@@RyanTJohnsonthat’s not true more expensive rifles don’t come with options you might want to add to 110 … so your base cost is still lower … just saying
As someone with a distinct preference for Finnish guns chambered in American cartridges, I would have loved to see a Tikka on that table. I guess they've moved above this price bracket, though.
Don't know why. I see a T3X lite for $769 right now.
Also surprised to not see a howa
I would've like to see the Zastava LK M70(Mauser clone) in the race. It has a $799 MSRP, comes in a walnut stock and has iron sights as well as a tapped receiver.
I took my irons off, but the best feature is they are available in LH.
That cva cascade is an awesome rifle. Super accurate and great finish
I like this platform you guys put together.. there are even more budget rifles that you can compare.. like the CZ Alpha 600 and Howa ect ect .. for
2nd round up then take top 3 from round one and round two
For the finals ..
Awesome job guys 👍🏽
CZ’s shoot !
I'd like to see a Savo in there too
surprised Mark didnt ask which on is available in WSM lol, both CVA and Ruger massive accuracy and reasons to choose but understand what Ryan liked about switching out barrels and bolt faces etc on the 110. taking them out in weather on a hunt to see which one handled the conditions without rust issues.
I'm only 4min in the video and can say I'd be interested in you guys buying 10 of the winner and repeating the test. Back when I bought 5 Steven's 200's in 243. One shot amazing and I sold the rest. It was really a eye opener.
That’s why you skip the drama and buy a Tilla
I’ve never been deer hunting. Went to Bass Pro yesterday to just hold some rifles. This video was very helpful. Thank you.
Have you guys even tried to clean out the barrel to bare metal before shooting the copper bullets? Seen multiple people do that and the copper bullets are shooting lights out after they clean the gilding metal outta the barrel
The think they didn't bring up is the CVA is based on the remington 700 action. So the aftermarket availability is going to be just as much if not better than the savage
I've just recently got CVS cascade 30-06 with an arken LH4 scope 4x16 I'm getting pretty excited about you guys have any thoughts
The AB3 comes also in a wood stock. You have that choice.
I have a Savage Axis in 30-06. Love that rifle plus I got it from Bass Pro on Blackfriday for $349 with a Weaver scope. I have since upgraded the scope, but it is an amazing rifle.
No Weatherby vanguard?
My thoughts exactly! No Weatherby/Howa 1500?
@@micmac6556 the weatherby is good too. It's just not as competitive on the pricing these days. It's like more of a intermediate rifle that edges out the model 70 and rem700 CDL in price category
@@patrickrodriguez320 thats fair, in my area the vaguards are basically on par with the Browning AB3
The vanguard obsidian would fit in their budget category with plenty of room to spare it's a shame it wasn't included.
weatherby Vanguard compact hunter - $760, Vanguard Obsidian $550 , Vanguard synthetic & synthetic compact $550.
Good lord. You can't have a proper and thorough budget rifle test without a Howa 1500. Crazy!
Even the Howa Superlite with wood stock is within the MSRP for this comparison....
@kenforche7684 Their new deluxe walnut stocked rifles are gorgeous and a great value.
Agreed
I was just about to comment a similar statement Howa 1500 or Weatherby Vanguard.
You're right. They missed a good one there
Savage 110 7mm08, aftermarket synthetic stock, Timny trigger, floating barrel, and one pice scope mount. Never fails for whitetail or any other big game I just haven’t personally used it on anything other than deer.
It might have been stated, but Savage also offers the trail hunter in a “lite” version. Fluted cerakote barrel, hogue overmold stock, under 7lbs and under $550. Have one in .308 and it’s a tack driver.
wish you guys would have done the savage 334 stevens but the video was done just perfect well done
They need to do a sub $500 USD video... That rifle starts sub $500 CAD ffs... Not sure of much on the market that can beat it, though today will be my first time taking mine out
You and I both !
Obviously Ruger American Gen2, but, can the Savage 110 finally get some love ?
And hey Ryan, different subject, but can you get the boys to do the .358 cartridge talk already ? Us old lever heads have been pretty patient .
As always,
jmp
Hell yeah! I've shot a Savage 116 FCSS Weather Warrior since I was a teen. The only thing I would change is offering an AICS option with higher capacity magazines. We live in a world where the "old deer rifle" may be needed for other things. Plus I just like that system.
I would love the CVA cascade to be one of my next rifles. Thanks for sharing.
Love mine!
I own half these rifles on the table, and the CVA Cascade is far and away the best out of the bunch. That’s not saying the bunch is crap. All are very good rifles, but the CVA is just better.
I went to my local gun store with a $1,200 budget. The salesman grabbed the CVA, and the snob in me kind of laughed under my breath, that was till he handed it over to me and I started running the volt and checking the trigger.
I was immediately impressed with the stock and finish. The bolt was 60 degree lift, and it was smooth. The trigger was amazing, I wasn’t expecting this on a sub $700 rifle.
Dual forearm swivel studs. Threaded barrel. LOP adjustable. Picatinny rails. Rigid stock with soft touch finish. Cerakote finish. 3 pos safety. Comfortable butt pad.
I can’t say enough about this rifle. Plus, the best part, it’s a tack driver. My CVA hangs with my cousins Springfield 2020 at 600 yards. I think he paid $2,400 for his rifle.
It is the best bang for your buck, unless you need to stay below $650.
To me, it seems to be the best value out there. CVA has been around for a long time, always made nice a muzzleloader.
@@brianhoxworth3881
There’s so many good options out there for affordable and accurate rifles. I just think CVA tops the list from what I’ve seen and experienced.
I have the new CVA Cascade LRH in 6.5 Creedmoor on my list. I'm debating on tha,t the Ruger American Gen II, and a Weatherby. Should I stick with the CVA? Thank you
@@bubblesismyne99
Honestly, you’d be happy with any of those three.
For me personally, the fit and finish, plus the accuracy of the CVA is worth every penny.
Rugers stalks are a little flimsy and they feel cheap. Nothing wrong with them, but I’ve had to Dremel the forearm because it was a little warped and touching the barrel. Not really a big deal to remove a little.
The Vanguard is also an excellent rifle. The bolt lift on the Vanguard is 90 degrees compared to 70 degrees on the Cascade. Trigger pull is lighter on the CVA. Cascade has a three lug bolt while the WV has two. Plus, I like the soft touch stock of the CVA, but I like WV’s stock as well.
Accuracy is excellent on all three.
The Ruger is the cheaper option of the three. So if you’re on a tight budget, you honestly can’t go wrong with Ruger.
My opinion, I’m picking the CVA Cascade every time. I love that rifle. Plus, they come with a threaded barrel and picatinny rails and two forearm swivel studs for bipod and sling. The CVA has LOP adjustment at the butt stock. The trigger is the best part of the rifle. Clean, light, and crisp trigger.
Good luck with your choice.
I love my stainless Tikka. Left handed.270
You are absolutely right about the 110, I converted mine to a bench rest rig with a nice thumbhole stock and 26 inch barrel, its an absolute laser beam.
I know that Ryan knows more about rifles and cartridges than I do, but the Savage M110 has been around since 1952 and the M10 denoted a short action cartridge vs the 110 Long action. Same with the Model 11 and 111 and 16 and 116.
They pretty much got rid of all of those extra numbers back in 2018/19 when they went to the new Accufit platform.
All great budget friendly options sadly not many have a left hand option
I love my cva cascade in 6.5 prc!
You should have done them in 6.5 CM. LOL!!!!! Nice review. I like the features of the CVA, but no lefty support. The Savage Trail Hunter is also not available in a lefty, but many of the 110 variants are.
I hunt & shoot mostly with 1 or another of my X-bolt Speed Rifles, but, i happen to have 4 of the 7 or 8(?) on the table - for 1 reason or another. The win XPR I picked up because it was just too good of a bargain to pass up on at Cabela's a few years back - got it in .300 win mag, came cerakote finished, in camo, and topped with a vortex diamondback 4-16 x 44 1st focal plane with the EBR-2C - Enhanced Battle Reticle- on a pic rail with vortex pro rings. I don't like it much but it was $750 before a $100 rebate. 26" barrel + 300 win mag is a bit much to lug up and down, let alone still hunt these mountains where I live [Northern New England White Mountains]... But it's a decent shooter for $650. and the scope jumped nicely onto my X-bolt Speed for a bit until I decided on the HST. Anyway, last year, with less than 1 week before opening day of reg deer season, my oldest X-bolt in 7mm-08 (the hells canyon speed) wasn't holding a zero to save my ass. (It was just the ammo- a bad box that were causing the expansion to begin at random distances WELL before impact, as in 15 to 50 yds- they'd just fracture and no one could see where the hell the shot went) but I was in ultrasonic inpatient mode over being ready for the season and it was cold, windy, and I wasn't in the mood to start diagnostics... so I went to the my dealer and got 2 brand new cheapies #1 savage 110 with the Vortex 3-9x40 in .308 for $550. It's a very accurate little thing - dull and boring as they get, but it was a 3 shot zero at 100yds. The things I like: it's accurate, trigger is good - the accutrigger despite being a bladed trigger. I don't like - AT ALL - The absolute nightmare of the 90° throw on the bolt! I can't cycle that with even thin gloves on without hitting the scope! There's no possible way - 90 degree is insane. Also, the bolt is ANYTHING BUT SMOOTH. It's ok on when seared, but the important thing - the unseared follow up takes 3 men and an Ox to pry that SOB up to the reset point for the trigger sear. The Safety sucks too. Metal, doesn't slide smoothly, and then it's a 3 point safety so you can lock the trigger, but keep the bolt unlocked - don't forget! they both show red. Full safe is too much to do in the woods AND it's loud, 1 click up and you might forget it isn't off safety- or hunt off safe- which I ultimately have chosen because - efff that shiz that's why. A bolt lock is awesome - I have been in many situations where it has been a life saver- from catching on my jacket or backpack, or even taking a monumentus trip face first into the snow - it's nice having it locked. Especially with the savage which likes to pop up to the halfway position (it still fires though, it'll just pop down in place when you touch er off) but ya know - Browning ALMOST did this same thing with the 3 position top tang safety- and apparently my #2 budget gun plans to-- the Ruger American Gen 2 -- but wait- so Browning engineers tried that in test models/prototypes in 2008. Thank GOD for common sense coming in when they realized in action, it's a very nice way to get all F'd up between full safe, semi safe/trigger locked-bolt unlocked, and off safety ready to shoot (that is what your finger is for - it's attached to your body, and hopefully there's a brain in there somewhere - and the brain should be trained to identify the target before the finger gets the green light -- but hey, I'm only a retired marine SS what do I know, really...) So Browning was smart enough to do something different. Like put a bolt lock ON THE BOLT! Wow. What a novel idea. Now you can use the safety as a-- SAFETY, and you can cycle the bolt to eject a live round for example, without taking the rifle off safe.
K so I can say that without modding the 110, it's a very nice "single shot" bolt gun. I'm all for 1 shot 1 kill. Believe you me I am -- but c'mon - I could save a lot of money and buy a single shot break action (or use one of the many I already have - and it's nice to be able to change the barrel, and all in one change your scope, chambering barrel length, type, MB? No MB? Suppressed? Not Suppressed? All in one. But it's just a single shot - what if you have 20 tangos and no backup? At least with 4+1, and 4 clips you have a chance to pick em off before you have given away your exact location - but reloading 19 times? No way. Not on my best day in the desert could I have been effective with a single shot break action rifle. But that's beside point - point is WTF is up with the throw on the 110?!? And then cycling it after firing? Mine cannot be done from the shoulder, has to be lowered to gain the amount of leverage required. Maybe it's a bad copy. Maybe I should look at the adjustments or ability to modify as you said they are great for Ryan. Or, gun #2 The Ruger American Gen 2. Also in .308 and rail ✓ scope [no ✓] so that's where the diamondback went. That one was so much smoother to cycle. 70° throw plus the curved bolt handle make it clear the scope with room to spare. Accurate - tack driver. $499 I used each for a couple hunts, and then I was curious about my X-bolt and had ordered another 2 boxes of American whitetail and 2x federal and suddenly it was back- just bad ammo- so I have 3 budgy - wait- I almost forgot I have several CVAs- my muzzleloader was the 1st CVA- they're made down south of us but still technically in New England - Connecticut Valley... I don't think I need another budget bolt gun though. But if I had to choose from the list you have: Tikka T3X Lite. Wait, No Tikka in the list... Howa 1500. That's a def shooter. Nope not there either. Well, certainly you guys would have to include a weatherby vanguard in there! No??? What the... I'm selling all my vortex gear and going back to Leupold. Have to sell the budget junkers too but it's worth it - especially that pain in the ass savage 110. Smooth action my @$$. Sloppy + everything I said already ↑ junk. Get a Tikka, or a Howa or save a up til you have enough for 2 budget junkers and get an X-bolt. You'll fall in love with the way ACTUAL smooth cycling bolts feel. There's many different GREAT choices, but it's not savage, and definitely not XPR, not Mossberg - the patriot? I mean - C'mon guys! You literally pick the same 5 and just mix up the other 2 or 3 each year. Kimber...nope. AB3 is the worst of anything Browning has put their name on. I am losing faith in y'alls judgement here... I'm also joking about a lot of things in this little novel.
Was hoping to see the Stevens 334. Very accurate rifle.
I have the xpr in 308 with a vortex crossfire 2. Using Federal Premium Sierra Matchking 175gr i get .5"-.75" groups regularly. Great budget rifle and was plenty of rifle to take my moose this fall 👌
I been hunting with friends for the past 3 years. I always use their rifles. This year I can’t go with them but I want to set off on my own. So this video helped a lot to purchase my own rifle. Thanks
I would have picked the CVA as well. ❤
What scopes did you guys use ? May I ask?
Thanks for the excellent video. ❤
Great video, guys. Plenty of good points on your choices.
Now...I would love to see you guys do this with a group of 300 Win Mags.
I have owned many savages in my life and they all did very well. This year I bought a CVA Cascade without a shadow of a doubt the CVA is the better rifle. From the trigger to accuracy the fit of the stock. I really wanted to not like the CVA but it my favorite.
no Howa or Weatherby Vanguard?
Great video and great timing, I'm looking for my first hunting rifle and this really helped me
You also could mention that Savage offers numerous options for the 110 from the factory depending on which model you get. So you could buy one off the shelf with all of the features of the CVA, though the CVA seems like a great rifle. Also I do not believe CVA offers a left handed model.
One of the best videos I’ve seen. Thank you!
you guys forgot the new weatherby vanguard obsidian!!!
Howa model 1500 is where it’s at!
Shocked you guys didn’t have a Howa 1500 in here those are cheap like 600 bucks. Great video thanks for the info. I’ve been wondering about the CVA rifle.
I think, for a beginner, a Howa 1500 is a compelling option. It's a pretty classic hunting rifle, even has a hinged floor plate. That said, dealing with Legacy Sports can be challenging if you have issues with the Howa. A way around that would be to spend just slightly more and get a Weatherby Vanguard (basically a Howa 1500 made for Weatherby). That way, if you did happen to have an issue, you're dealing with Weatherby customer service and not Legacy.
Please do the same video again with 450 Bushmaster for us Straight Walled Cartridge States! CVA Cascade XT vs Bergara B14 Ridge vs Ruger American Gen 2 vs ect especially reaching out to 400 yrds!
So... you like them all and were impressed with them all. Great. Very helpful lol.
No surprise a Ruger American gen ii got lit off first! Bought the first one Scheels put on the wall in .204 it was on the hanger all of 5 seconds. 😂 Topped it off with a Strike Eagle 4-24×50 in pro rings for a great dog town setup.
Going on 6th year using just my savage axis, no complaints. It does get rust spots fairly easy, but I don’t plan on it being a family heirloom, I’m going to abuse it till it doesn’t work, and then buy another one
It's the savage axis 2 for me. If you don't mind the spongy bolt lift it solves all your hunting needs for 350 buck. Spend the money stacking up ammo and never worry about hurting or scratching it. You just gotta buy one to appreciate it's efficiency and utility.
Straight wall area here so I bought the Axis 2 in .350 legend for exactly this reason. Mine shoots roughly MOA at 100 and took a large doe at about 125 yards last year. Just a great cheap rifle. $/lb goes way down with this rifle! lol
I have been a Savage Axis fan since I was given my first deer rifle (a Savage Axis .243) over 20 years ago. I don't know how many deer that rifle has taken, but a couple of years ago, I decided that for a long field on my family farm where I have a chance to get up to a 250 yard shot, I wanted something a little more than a 243. After careful consideration, comparing calibers, rifles, and researching what options would best suit my needs, this past season marked the first buck on a brand new Axis.308 taken a touch over 200 yards. I have no complaints with my choice, and would make it again in a heartbeat.
@@LindenHighwind 308 is a neat cartridge. I've always been one who believes caliber selection is just matter of preference with the exception of extra long range. I've seen elk killed with a 243 in the ball park of 300 yards and have seen lots of deer killed with 223 at unknown distances
I had a Savage Axis and traded for a Mossberg Patriot. I prefer the patriot in almost every aspect. It has a smoother bolt, better trigger, more accurate, better magazine, and I like the safety more.
Was really wishing to see the howa/vanguard in there
Great video and great comparison of all these 308 rifles.
Weatherby vanguard obsidian, $500 price range would have been a nice option. Maybe next time.
I noticed not one mention of Howa or Tikka . How much do these manufacturers pay y'all to advertise for them?
There will be 100s of Tikka comments. Don't worry. They rival Glock fanboys.
@@Yetified_Mayhem Why, because they work? Bombproof? Not Gucci enough for you?
I have the Ruger American Ranch in 300blk. Love the gun, did change the stock; I’m a lefty and the bolt hits my hand. I got a Woox stock, cost mor than my gun, but I love the looks and features.
I was looking at the CVA and the Savage 110 for a 308. But now I want a 6.5 PRC. Maybe I’ll buy a 308 in one and 6.5 PRC in the other.
You guys really need to check out the CZ 600
I got a Mossberg 308 and 3006 for about 400$ each both had a scope both hold 5 shells but can use a detachable mag
Last Christmas I bought a 110 Trail Hunter in 6.5 PRC. It was awful. I tried two scopes, two rings, four types of ammo, with and without the muzzle break, etc.
The best it would do was over a 4" group at 100 yards, and the trigger wouldn't adjust below 4#.
So it was returned to Savage in January and they verified everything I claimed.
They tried to talk me into a different caliber, but I bought this for antelope and wanted to stick with it. Unfortunately the barrels were on backorder so they said to call every two to three weeks.
In May I got a wonderful lady who read through my notes and said enough was enough, and offered me a Proof Research barrel as the factory barrels were still on backorder.
Needless to say, I said yes and they mounted the barrel and swapped out the defective trigger.
It's now a tack driver and that heavy barrel diameter is still there, but carbon fiber wrapped stainless is much lighter.
It's wearing a 4x12 Diamondback and is a fantastic rifle!! I thank Savage for fantastic customer service, too. It took a while, but it was worth the wait!!
got an idea for a vortex podcast. how about a review or recommendation on the best, most stable, shooting rests for sighting in rifle scopes off a shooting bench. what are the best options out there? low end to high end. low cost to high cost.
I have a CVA Cascade in 300 win mag and my grandson has a Savage 110 ultralight in 6.5 Creedmoor.
Both are extremely accurate but the Savage has ejection problems sometimes and the CVA has never failed.
CVA wins for me.
You get a like for the intro alone! Thumbs up
Good review. Very solid on points i was asking for my sons first hunting rifle. He chose 308 due to its versatility and availability. While I went 6.5 grendel due to its deer/hog capability out to 300 yards (my limit). Anyway thanks for the reviews for his college graduation next year.
just searched all of your yearly budget rifles back to 2019 and you guys have no weatherby vans on any of them? why is this, they are a standout bang for buck, and every year they have had several offerings in the stated price range. just seems kind of strange that they never seem to make the cut yet the same 6-7 brands always seem to show up..... give a little love to them please
They’re a howa clone.. not an original product.
@@ULFISHGETTER so put Howa on the table.
Only weatherby rifle worth a damn is the mark v
They are great, but everyone can't afford to spend at least double what a vanguard cost
Each has its purpose it all depends on location and situation . I like to use axis ll when I'm in the swamp because if something happens and I loose it I'm not out much in the mountains model 110 in the forest model 70 and at the farm 44mag 1894 .
Yeah....Recently bought that Ruger Generation II in 400 Legend....it really performs...
Savage Axis. With a little load development I've gotten 243, 270, 308 and 30-06 all under MOA easily. Best value out there. Wife's 243 with a Nikon was .9 out of the box. First handload was .73. I bet I could get it to .5 MOA for $400?
You guys did a good job summarizing the rifles you selected for this test, but you left out a tremendous value in the Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian and Vanguard Synthetic. With all respect for the rifles you chose, I am buying a Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian chambered for 22.250. Putting a Hawke 4-12x 40 scope on it and I'll be ready for the range. YMMV and all that other happy hoo-hoo 🤪
Very well done. Thank you for making this video. Very helpful.
I really like the Mossberg Bantom Patriot. Only US made gun I could find with a wooden youth stock. Gun does its job very well and is about all we hunt with now, including me. .243
I would go with the Savage because I can get it in 7mm PRC and when I checked the CVA, it isn't offered in that. At least, I didn't see that caliber on their site.
I’d love to see a midrange battle. Tikka Bergara weather by xbolt. So $100 give or take $200.
I have the exact ruger gen 2 in 7prc shoots excellent
Love your videos but have a question what about the HOWA???
The Weatherby Vanguard snub is criminal lol.
@@brenthussey2348 Weatherby and Tikka
Sauer 100
@@tolesy00just sold my Sauer 100 7mm-08.
After 1yr of trying to find a hand load it would shoot I finally decided it was a dud and bought another tikka. Two trips to the range and have a load that shot .33” at 100 and a 20 shot group into .89”.
HOWA 1500
The howa 1500 - the Vanguard is the best buy for the $ and it's not even close.
Won my last two High Powered Rifle Silhouette competition with the Ruger American Gen II 308. I run a Vortex PST Gen I 4-24 FFP MRAD, Timney trigger, and the Ruger Stock Weights. If I win the next competition and I should move up a class. I want to run a Vortex PST Gen II 3-15 FFP MRAD since I never use above 10 power. However, I do not have any problems the PST Gen I. So, it’s had to justify the purchase.
We are fortunate to have so many great rifles available to choose from. I agree with other commenters that the Vanguard/Howa 1500 and the Tikka T3x would have been great contenders in this challenge. The Tikka may have exceeded the price range though. My personal choice would be the Cascade, but I would get the short 18" barrel model in .308 and use it full-time with a suppressor. Thanks for another great video guys!
Agreed
I’d take the cascade, get the caliber you want and you don’t have to change anything. I don’t like the accutrigger. If it was a 2-stage okay. I had a save 110 that was a tack driver, heavy, but accurate. I just don’t like the pre-trigger press unless it’s a two stage.
Literally doing this research myself for this year’s deer season so this is perfectly timed!
What state/states?
@@yep-sb4uf Wisconsin
@zacharythomson4743 Good luck out there.
How about the Thompson Center Compass II, Howa M1500, Remington 783, and Tikka?
Bang for the Buck you can't beat either of the Savages straight out of the box. I have multiple Savage's in different calibers. I actually detest the White Tail factory ammo because it is some of the most inconsistent on the shelf in that price range! Most guns on the market will preform well in most hunting situations and really is more of a shooters preference! The Rugar American 2 feels clean and functions well the Mossberg feels to be more of a budget gun but does what it's designed to do, and the ejectors don't seem to do well over time. An easy to repair or maybe even a non-issue for those whot don't shoot as much. What I tend to use the most gets outside of the budget range of rifles but I'm just kind of partial to the Belgium made BAR because you get the bolt action performance in an auto.
I just got a Howa 1500 in 3006. Slapped a leupold vx freedom on er.
Howa 1500/weatherby vanguard (same rifle) and tikka should have been included.
Of what they had on the table: CVA #1, Ruger #2. Wrongfully omitted: Weatherby Vanguard, Howa 1500.
I love my CVA LRX muzzleloaders. Might have to get the rifle to go with it.
Love the reviews to help save money, and you get a decent rifle !
Thanks, you ‘made me’ go buy a Ruger American Gen 2 in 300 Blackout!!! 😆👊🏻
I'm surprised the Weatherby Vanguard wasn't tested, I have 2 of them and they're tack drivers.
BOYS .... I have had 2 savage axis rifles one 270 one 06 both shot awsome. The stock wasn't great but as a budget rifle , a true budget riflesub 600 dollor rife i think it's the ɓest back woods , I don't care it if get it dirty or scratch it rifle out there.vthe 110 would be my next chioce
Savage is already offering the Trail Hunter Lite, which is supposed to be 1 pound lighter than the Trail Hunter featured here.
Left out the HOWA!
Appreciate the reviews, still leaning toward the Ruger American.
The Ruger Gen 2 is my pick. Way more features, comes with a rail, extremely accurate, and ceracoat to prevent rust. I think they lowballed its score in this showdown.
Love my cva cascade
Out of curiosity did you do a full clean out before shooting the cx loading? It's a know issue with shooting cx ammo after traditional lead core rounds.
That's not true in the slightest