Dead Men Tell No Tales - How to Kill a Franchise

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    Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales is famously the most disjointed of the Pirates films... but how bad is it really? How hard does it ruin the franchise? Tune in to find out how bad it truly is!
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:33 - Character Assassination
    3:33 - Retcons
    8:15 - Contrivances and Sillies
    12:08 - Outro
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  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Pirates of the caribean:bad movies tell no tales

  • @Captain_James_Matthew
    @Captain_James_Matthew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It all makes sense now!
    In the post-credit scene of On Stranger Tides, we see that Angelica has obtained the voodoo doll of Jack, and by her expression we can tell that she desires to use it for revenge. THAT is why Jack had so much bad luck and was not himself in this film, Angelica had been messing with him!
    That could at least be a lore explanation.

    • @Light.........
      @Light......... 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The voodoo doll has only been seen to cause physical harm to the person it is connected with. It has not been seen to effect someone’s luck.

    • @Captain_James_Matthew
      @Captain_James_Matthew 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Light......... Yeah, I was just attempting to come up with a logical explanation as to why Pirates 5’s Jack is the way he is.
      I tried.

  • @Belangerz
    @Belangerz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I’m glad we never ended up getting the sequel to this film. Reviving Davy Jones would have lead to even worse retcons.

    • @jerrygriffiths6454
      @jerrygriffiths6454 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Christ sake, that crab claw thing pissed me off.

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Nah sea you are wrong jack giving the compass away=freeing salazar isnt an equivalent to somehow palpatine return,its an equivalent to the holdo maneuver who happens in a few seconds and completely invalidates all spave battles in the history of star wars

    • @TheSEAempire
      @TheSEAempire  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      So true!

    • @Darkness1984
      @Darkness1984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So because no one ever thougt before about lightspeed ramming your ship into others before means it can never be done?

    • @mobgabriel1767
      @mobgabriel1767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Darkness1984 do you know how stupid this argument sounds? hyperspace traveling has been around since the early days of the first galactic republic(wich is around 25000 years BBY),and even before that it was being used by the purrgil(A.K.A the hyperspace whales that we see in rebels and ahsoka),you are saying to me that in more than 25000 years NO ONE had thought of hyperspace ramming? or that it never happened of a ship accidentally hyperspace ram into another?

    • @mobgabriel1767
      @mobgabriel1767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      to comparison:cars have been around since 1886 and everyone knows that ramming a car into another car or into a person will do serious damage, and this is far less time than hyperspace travelling has been around star wars

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSEAempire You forgot that Salazar was controlled by his own desire for revenge, so of course he will still want to kill others instead of fearing his own life after becoming a human again.
      For the other characters, i guess they mostly got by the woke script writing. Except for Jack, he possibly was already know that he will be fired soon (you know because the drama that he got into with his ex-wife) so he maybe didn't really gave too much s**t about the role.

  • @Jayrojo115
    @Jayrojo115 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I don’t think Disney even knew what they were doing with this film. Especially with all the OG people not working on it anymore

    • @themug406
      @themug406 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Make Jack Sparrow movie, make more money" -Disney
      Quality was never a consideration

  • @captainvader921
    @captainvader921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    While I appreciated Stranger Tides for trying to spin off, and not continue the story of the first three movies, this one did that, and it's genuinely infuriating. Also, one hole that Ryan George pointed out, how is Will alive? All the curses were broken, right? And Will had to have his heart cut out, so they can keep him alive, which implies magic. So if all the magic is gone, shouldn't Will be dead then?

  • @Bmoney1337
    @Bmoney1337 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I agree with your critiques in this video. I love the first 3 movies and I even like On Stranger Tides quite a lot, I find it to be very underrated.
    Dead Men Tell No Tales… I enjoy the last few scenes of the movie well enough, but most of it is a train wreck. The worst part for me is how they completely destroyed Jack’s character. Also the score was really missing Hans Zimmer’s wonderful work.

    • @themug406
      @themug406 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Stranger Tides is at least as bad as 5

    • @Bmoney1337
      @Bmoney1337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@themug406 not even close

  • @sammontgomery9575
    @sammontgomery9575 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:29 Going into those f*cking movies, I expected incompetent technical aspects, plot holes and contrivences, and characters being stupid, but outright character assassination for the simple characterisation we get for Dr Loomis was not what I was expecting.

  • @Horrormaster13
    @Horrormaster13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Want to hear something sad: On Stranger Tides and Dead Men Tell No Tales were the only Pirates of the Caribbean movies I actually saw in the cinema 😞
    I didn't see the original trilogy in the cinema because back then I wasn't a movie buff yet.

    • @themug406
      @themug406 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Seeing 3 at the cinema got me and my mate obsessed with pirates for months, the finale was movie magic on the big screen

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@themug406 I was lucky to see Pirates of the Caribbean At World's End twice in the theaters.

    • @Pundit07
      @Pundit07 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@merafirewing6591
      I only saw 2 and 3 in theaters. I watched the original at home on DVD with my parents.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a Brit, I should let you know that in the UK this film is called Salazar's Revenge lol

    • @themug406
      @themug406 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reverse Sorcerers Stone moment

  • @mythbuster43
    @mythbuster43 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This movie was the Rise of Skywalker of the PotC franchise.

  • @SummerNight-lh4ob
    @SummerNight-lh4ob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I know what can end a sitcom in one episode fast

  • @loicbosman4739
    @loicbosman4739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I myself do quite like the flashback scene, there's a tad more substance than anything else in the film but what they did with the compass is both ridiculous and inexcusable. The trident also has the same problem of causing catastrophic continuity issues.
    I've always wished this film was about Will and his adventures on the Dutchman, ferrying souls to the after life. There's so much storytelling potential there. Jack might be able to be worked in, like imagine if he was losing a bit of his touch and became worried, eventually being hired by a new villain with business with Will to hunt and kill him.
    The villain could have heard of tales of Jack and been interested in hiring him. As Jack's reputation depletes, he gets a chance to become a legend once again but at the cost of Will. I think it'd be cool to pose them against each other and deepen their relationship and conflict throughout the film

  • @SomebodyWhoExists23
    @SomebodyWhoExists23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    What 5th movie? There are only 3

  • @programmerx8455
    @programmerx8455 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think there was to much of Jacks origin in this that didn't make sense..and it was just more of the same..And I agree jack just feels like a shadow of himself

  • @cheyannelencioni9394
    @cheyannelencioni9394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Would you ever consider making a video about how they could have made a better Potc 5 and maybe 6 if we felt it was needed? Like having Elizabeth as a central figure to the plot, not killing Barbossa, giving new characters an actual personality, and not destroying the characters we already know and love. I also didn't fully catch that Gibbs wasn't the same in this movie compared to others. Given that Will isn't cursed to the Dutchman, why not make it they're trying to protect his heart from being taken or find a way for him to be with his family more often?

  • @matthodgkinson2003
    @matthodgkinson2003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A lot of this movie can be explained. It was written by the same person who wrote The lion King 2019

  • @JOSH-lw2jv
    @JOSH-lw2jv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This reminds me of another film
    that killed a franchise: *"TERMINATOR: Dark Fate".*

    • @TheSEAempire
      @TheSEAempire  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh god don’t remind me of that fucking abortion 💀

    • @JOSH-lw2jv
      @JOSH-lw2jv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheSEAempire
      For that, I apologize.

    • @TheSEAempire
      @TheSEAempire  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha all good lol

  • @e-henne
    @e-henne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I couldn't finish a rewatch of this movie. I can describe this movie as "Look how they massacred my boy"

  • @Cton9573
    @Cton9573 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding Barbossa's sacrifice, I genuinely feel that if nothing else, the intention behind it was actually pretty great. Having a character who's mainly acted selfishly throughout the franchise end his life to protect that of those he cares about selflessly is kinda sorta genius and something I'd consider to be an interesting way to end Barbossa's character. In excecution I definitely wish that there had been more time to develop him and Carina's relationship as father and daughter, but you can still feel that general idea in the film with what little time we get to explore them (which mainly just comes down to DMTNT's severe pacing issues but whatever).
    Other than that excellent video as usual. It feels really good to see these things, some of which have been at the back of my mind for months finally be acknowledged by a video about this film, specially the Trident of Poseidon points.

  • @prehistorichero2755
    @prehistorichero2755 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s so ironic that in the first three films, villains who appeared monstrous and intimidating are sympathetic and have suffered fate worst than death similar to Frankenstein’s Monster while the normal and fully human villains are far more menacing, like Lord Beckett, but in On Stranger Tides, they decided to write a monstrous villain as menacing as he how he looked like we’re supposed to judge a book by its cover. Yes, he is evil before he became a monster, but his fate would’ve been in the plot of the movie or in the climax if that helps.

  • @DCMarvel2009
    @DCMarvel2009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The moment you realize this moment establishes “whenever Jack gave his compass to Will or Elizabeth in the original trilogy, he was risking releasing Salazar, which never happened.”
    You make a good point. Can’t believe you were able to shove the fifth movie into your timeline, if only to include Sea of Thieves as a glorified segue. 😂

  • @czzp77
    @czzp77 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1. Jack was a hopeless looser in the film because he was actually cursed in order to pose no threat to Barbossa. It's explained at one point by a witch he was paying visit to.

  • @jarrodedson5441
    @jarrodedson5441 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pirates are of the Caribbean 5 really Butchered characters

  • @urielnurie.l.f9269
    @urielnurie.l.f9269 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm just at the beginning and I couldn't agree more

  • @fullmoon1072
    @fullmoon1072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, this film absolutely breaks canon. To me the first 3 are the only canonical ones

  • @jacksondavies3595
    @jacksondavies3595 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since you're one of the biggest Pirates of the Caribbean experts, I'd like you to answer this question: Much of Dead Man's Chest is build on the fact that Jack can't get the compass to point to Davy Jones's heart. Why was he confused on what he needed to do? Especially since it was rather easy for Elizabeth, who knew jackshit about the chest?

  • @captaindemobeard9560
    @captaindemobeard9560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There be another thing that bothered me about this film. Why didn't barbossa use the Trident Sword? That thing can make a ship operate on its own, and even if he couldn't control the Silent Mary, he could still control Queen anne's Revenge and stand a bit o' a chance.

  • @asliceofloaf1984
    @asliceofloaf1984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like Salazar as a character concept, and the actor was perfect. Unfortunately yeah, some of his writing was kinda bad and lacked depth. A vigilante capitan hunting pirates and believing himself morally justified in every crime because he does, sounds super cool. They could have toned down the supernatural aspect a bit, and not made them invincible whilst having the power to seemingly do anything the plot required. Woulda been neat if they were an elite mercenary crew, had a bit of ghost powers, but otherwise just outskilled the main cast instead of using their insane powers all the time.
    That's about all I really care about from the movie though. The trident or whatever, and a lot of the shenanigans of not-Elizabeth were incredibly forgettable. They also did ruin basically everything the prior movies did.
    Man, this movie really was the star wars sequel trilogy equivalent of pirates, but at least Javier absolutely nailed his role.

  • @companylovesmisery1463
    @companylovesmisery1463 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like Captain Salazar, but that was mostly due to Javier Bardem's acting. I've seen people say that the reason giving away the compass never caused Jack's greatest fear to manifest was because he never truly DID give it away, with no expectation or intent of getting it back, as he did here. Letting Will or whoever end up with the compass was always part of whatever scheme Jack was orchestrating at the moment, the conclusion of which he knew ahead of time would see his beloved compass back in his hands. That makes sense actually. What's harder to explain is yes yes, the whole "compass bartered from Tia Dalma who's this guy giving it to Jack after he dies" bit. People have said that he might have received the compass from her as Dead Man's Chest established, then (in some unknown and off-screen instance) given it to the guy who formally returns it to Jack upon his death in this movie. That is also somewhat believable. I do agree that both of these require a good deal of waving away of specific details from previous movies to work.

  • @themug406
    @themug406 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jack was always a drunk but he was never stupid or, more significantly, dragged around with no agency or goal

  • @jerrygriffiths6454
    @jerrygriffiths6454 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought the Will thing was Jones catch up. Jones didn't do his job for centuries. Will had to deal with literal centuries of sea ghosts that piled up.

    • @TheSEAempire
      @TheSEAempire  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m not too sure what you’re getting at here.

  • @Batman_2018
    @Batman_2018 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:18 "Sea Turtles Mate"

  • @juliansavedra6486
    @juliansavedra6486 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To add more to the atrocity of this movie, if you look closely at all the pirate ships in this movie, they are LITERALLY ALL THE SAME MODEL AS THE BLACK PEARL. Seriously!!! Not kidding!!! Look for yourself!!

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Like there's alot of replica age of sail ships all over the place that can become ideal candidates for the pirate ships taking on the Silent Mary. Whereas At World's End has alot of individual pirate ships that are completely unique.

  • @christophergillette7167
    @christophergillette7167 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so deeply relieved I never saw this film

  • @hlazerlove8121
    @hlazerlove8121 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like Salazar though :(

  • @Girl_in_the_robot
    @Girl_in_the_robot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think there’s a possibility that this movie will get retconned in the next and made not canon?

  • @hlazerlove8121
    @hlazerlove8121 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alright, but heres like, yeah the movie sucks. But the music is amazing, and Salazar was played very well. And I really really like that The Silent Mary can eat other ships. The coolest damn scene is when the British come in, and Salazar eats them. I think it’s kinda cool.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That part is like a "WTF" moment to ever see.

  • @elioridacow
    @elioridacow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I already knew I was watching a bad movie when I saw Will was cursed, Will being cursed makes no sense I bet you it's probably because they didn't know what to do and uh what happened to Jack Sparrow?
    Now I know there was stuff happening with Johnny Depp but that doesn't really make up the script since the script was terrible even if he wasn't having issues and the only moment where he felt like Jack was in the scene where Jack as a kid tricks the villain of the movie the only scene where Jack actually was Jack in every other scene Jack is just not Jack at all
    Oh when they all thought the Black Pearl was sunken Jack says (she was a fine ship) REALLY? That was Jacks baby he loved the pearl and just look at his reaction when Barbossa said he lost it, The real Jack Sparrow would have lost it if he thought his ship was gone forever
    Do I need to say more?

  • @toddbryan5818
    @toddbryan5818 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a video on Pirates of the Carribean online.

  • @captaingeneroddenberry8439
    @captaingeneroddenberry8439 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bit better than the whole Clergy man and mermaid interspecies romance that was pointless

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only things I liked in Dead Men Tell No Tales is the crazy plan that Jack just manages to rob a bank whilst taking the whole building along with the vault and also the ending, but yeah. This movie is completely horrible and it would've been better if the whole story had been reworked and made less lore breaking, zero character assassination. And also more consistent with the existing lore.

  • @MikeJones-lf4bl
    @MikeJones-lf4bl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Progressive” writers progressing backwards 😂😂😂 classic

  • @Binks182
    @Binks182 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Id say strangers tides was worse than dead man.

  • @pyerack
    @pyerack หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had high copium watching this movie for the first time because I really wanted it to be good.
    First half I put up with the nonsense thinking it'd make a good comeback but no I slowly grew to hate it the more I realized it was just an absolute rancid mockery of the original trilogy.
    I just pretend it doesn't exist now.

  • @pauldecourley8773
    @pauldecourley8773 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gives you a heads up on how the next one will be without Captain Jack. Another Disney Nose Dive.

    • @TheSEAempire
      @TheSEAempire  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There won’t even *be* a sixth one. They don’t have the money at the moment, and it’s so ridiculously controversial so they just won’t touch it.

  • @elliotmackay8350
    @elliotmackay8350 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Say what you want about on stranger tides, but I prefer that movie more than this one

  • @MajinLordVegeta
    @MajinLordVegeta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Someone said it, Jack was not Jack here. That alone gets a sub.