The android saga was so much fun. Trunks’ ominous warning and then watching everything unfold leading up to cell. The mystery and sense of terror was epic. Especially on the old VHS tape commercials.
@@Teutonius88 Agreed, but I enjoy super as well. I still enjoy seeing these characters I grew up with interact and super occasionally ascends to pretty epic heights even if the power levels make absolutely no sense anymore. It’s more like Dragonball because they actually get other characters involved rather than just Saiyans.
I much prefer the Androids saga over the Cell saga portion of the arc. The plot of the arc with its time travel explanation made perfect sense until Cell's ridiculoud time paradox nonsense! Cell claims he came from a timeline where the androids wrecked the future AND where Trunks went back in time to kill Freiza. Only one of these can be true.
Also I find it funny that 17 always said he was the “ultimate/strongest android.” Then he kinda had the wind taken out of him when cell came around and 16 was revealed to be stronger. However, everything kinda came back around full circle and now 17 is basically the only one to rival goku. I LOVE that they brought him back. I was disappointed after the cell saga when he was shelved for awhile. But they brought him back and made him bad ass
I was always amazed with the idea in DB and DBZ that scientists like Dr Gero and Bulma we're able to not only create androids but then create androids whom were even more powerful than super Saiyans.
Bulma invented a time machine that was capable of backwards time travel and her father invented a way to compress large matter (cars, fully equipped and furnished houses, etc) into portable devices the size of a pill - without any ill effects lol. To be honest, genius scientists figuring out a way to create strong fighters based on observation and using their data/cells is more buyable than the ass-pull explanations of new mystical villains appearing out of the blue (like Majin Buu and Beerus) that's stronger than the last one, because the plot demands it. It worked up until the Frieza arc, Frieza was supposed to be the strongest being in the universe. It's a problem that plagues DBZ/DB Super more than the original DB, as in that, there was no emphasis on power levels (Goku was fighting strong people and villains on Earth) and no one had the power to obliterate the world at the touch of their fingers.
Yeah, what material would be strong enough lol. I mean Namex Frieza was very strong. He was emperor of Galaxy. Weird that a human can made material and energy as much as those who have conquer galaxy
The android saga blew my tiny mind as a young boy. First realizing Frieza is back, there's another saiyan, the fact that he's also a SSJ, about the androids and Trunks' timeline, that they aren't the same androids Trunks was referring to, that the new ones are stronger, and that the newest villain, Cell, was potentially going to be the strongest. Oh, and Vegeta in a shower and wearing a pink shirt lol
Great video. One of your best ever. As the runtime was getting toward the end I was like “how is he gonna fit Cell in this small of a time frame we have left?”. Can’t say how hyped I am for a Cell stand-alone video.
Honestly the gammas being so strong makes more sense if you think that they had to sacrifice a lot of beneficial hacks like ki absorbtion infinite energy or even the ability to fire ki them selves all for raw power
@Chief Sitting Feather (We'z fake Indigenous!!) you really don't think that's them coping over why gero and 19 are weaker than the gammas? Cope - (of a person) deal effectively with something difficult. "his ability to cope with stress" (of a machine or system) have the capacity to deal successfully with. "the roads are barely adequate to cope with the present traffic" Learn how words work next time you try to sound smart
@@ArizonaTeaMan cope is a verb you used it as a noun. At the end of the day you're usage is wrong. I like you copied and pasted the definition except the most important part. The fact that it's a verb. And you used it as a noun. Otherwise your grammar is wrong. Because there's no subject before the comma. Ergo it's an incomplete sentence. Or you used the word wrong. Either way. You come off as wrong and dumb.
Video Chapters: 0:00:00:00 Introduction 0:01:27:07 Title Card 0:01:55:13 Part 1: Creating An Android 0:06:17:03 Part 2: Early Models (Androids 1-12) 0:13:33:05 Part 3: Super Computers (Androids 13-15) 0:18:23:13 Part 4: Dr Gero's Secret (Androids 19-20) 0:28:10:20 Part 5: Lapis and Lazuli (Androids 17 and 18) 0:40:46:00 Part 6: Family (Android 16 and Android 21) 0:51:40:15 Part 7: Super Hero (Gamma 1 and Gamma 2) 0:58:16:09 Part 8: Conclusion (Extra Androids + More)
Just finished watching the entire video and I enjoyed this video yes androids while being the most fascinating characters to come out of Dragon ball weren't so much celebrated but in the recent media including the video game fighter Z and Superhero, the movie has not only expanded upon the androids involvement in the story but also makes them so much more popular. Once again a very well-made video and I enjoyed it very much.
Just great timing big D. My wife has gotten really into dragon ball, we started watching it around 4 months ago and we are just about to rap up the garlic Jr Arc. She just loves the show and Ader...8er...is one of her favorite characters. I can't wait for her to meet 17 and 18. Happy holidays and or just happy couple days off!!
I always liked the headcannon for the Super Android 13 movie that it takes place in the timeline where the Z Fighters defeated the Androids and Cell didn't show up.
I love this video. I am a huge fan of the androids was not knowing alot about them even I was reading the manga. The new connections with Gero, Android 21 & 16 is great and happy to see that Gero and his family get more lore to them :)
Interestingly enough, 17 and 18 couldn’t sense power levels, but could read other things. For example when vegetas attack missed, 18 said something like he was off by 2 degrees. This combined with their eternal energy cores really make them fascinating. They were always my favorite characters tbh. I wonder if gero just hadn’t completed their energy sensing function.
The thing with energy sensing is that probably only sentient beings can sense other peoples life energy androids dont really have life energu they have artificial energy. Sensing ki is something learned and if u dont have ki how can u sense it the androids have energy.
Yet again, thank you Danny for another great video, I appreciate the efforts you put into these videos whether it be quickies or the long ones (pause) thank you for your time and Knowledge. 💪🙏🏼
The Androids were a crucial part in Dragon Ball Super's Tournament of Power. Android 17 was the last one standing in the ring and won the Tournament of Power for universe 7
Hey been watching you for a few years just want to give you flowers and give you thanks for still dropping new content. Can't wait for the anime to drop God bless and hope you had a good xmas
Considering Eighter is a frankenstien's monster, he certainly had a soul... Which like the Alphas in Dragonball Super Chapter 88, likely had various body parts stolen from a nearby cemetery. Meaning he was a restless, wandering spirit who is practically immortal.
That’s just more headcanon though. Being built to RESEMBLE Frankenstein’s monster doesn’t automatically equate to BEING Frankenstein’s monster. There’s no indication that he was composed of human body parts. The look was likely just an aesthetic choice.
@@RobTutt17 Nope. Nope. Fucking. NOPE. In anime filler, it is said that Android 8 was a Human-type Earthling who died and was resurrected as a human-based model android by Dr. Flappe on the orders of General White. He's literally a reanimated corpse and you are so wrong it makes my dick tingle. Oooooh. Wrong. You're wroooong!
@@tylerthompson3075 key words being “anime filler”. All of which was created without the involvement, or permission, of Akira Toriyama. 8 is OFFICIALLY an entirely artificial construct.
@@RobTutt17 Garlic Jr didn't happen? What about Broly? Super Hero isn't CANON either? They are all legitimate story beats officially serialized by Toei animation. "HURR DUUR IT'S NOT IN THE MANGA SO IT ISN'T REAL" No. Fuck you.
Thank you for this great Christmas Present Danny! Awesome and hugely detailed video as always. You as a a person are another reason why I'm proud and happy to be a Dragon Ball fan. Merry Christmas!
It would have made more sense to me if Goku had killed Gero's son (who we knew was a RR soldier at some point) that served as the prototype for #16. Goku was very trigger-happy during his younger years and murdered all those soldiers from the RRA in cold blood, so it would have made more sense than Gero being so hellbent on revenge if all Goku did was destroy the RRA base without him around.
@@LordMalice6d9 To each their own but I also love the Freeza arc. But the pay off of Gohan ascending Super Saiyan was so powerful. That, plus Piccolo and Kami reuniting, time travel twists, imperfect cell being legit scary in his intro, Future Trunks’s story, and 17 and 18 being such unusual characters. And, much more.
@@grapes9h5 Pay off? What pay off? Gohan's ss2 transformation does not have anywhere near the level of build up that Goku's did and the narrative trigger for it is even more thematically and narratively hollow. Gohan transforms after the death of an android Gohan had never even meet until the day of the fight with Cell. The pacing of the Freeza saga was arduous, but the moment Goku transformed fit the story that had been set up since the saiyan saga. Gohan does not get this justification in spite of deserving more since his inner power was always hinted at. The second half of the cell saga is a narrative mess.
48:00 Its such a shame she only debuted in the videogame, I was hoping she'd be shown in super dragon ball heroes but that didn't happen either, I hope she gets a part in either manga or anime
i actually thought it was cool to have a videogame exclusive character, but now that she appeared in the super hero movie, shes canon. you just might get your wish
Awesome kick-ass video! You always deliver with a deep-dive retrospective on everything Dragon Ball, my man! Loved the series since I first watched it back in '98 on Cartoon Network's Toonami! Those were the days! After the series was over, I had done research when I was 11 as much as any fan and so on. Never did stopped. Yet you had beat me to the punch here. Nice, Geekdom! The reason why is I'm an aspiring cartoonist and Toriyama-sensei is one of my all-time favorite inspirations along with others (ex: Stan Lee, Genndy Tartakovsky, Dwayne McDuffie, Bruce Timm, Tite Kubo, Monkey Punch, and Hirohiko Araki). Got a thing for Japanese culture as I love it. Total otaku. My name is Kenny btw. Also, Do you or anyone know the song at the beginning of the "Creating an Android" section of the video? Sounds very poppy!
One of the inspirations for the Gammas people seem to miss is a ver old anime called Cyborg 009. The Gammas' outfit resemble a lot the costumes of those characters.
Nice content. I thought i was done with the DB series because when Super came out i thought hell what happened to the animation? But from the perspective of these in-depth reviews, it’s quite fun. Even for my age of 31 lol. Kudos, man
In both dubs, and I'm pretty sure in the sub, (it's been a while since I've seen the show), but Android 17 scan Android 16 in the pod before they released him, and Android 17 said that he was stronger than Android 16 because of the data or something like that, but when Android 16 fought Cell it was shown that he was stronger than everyone at that time. So it always had me thinking, if there were a few bugs, or a defect on 17's design, or something like that.
In the upcoming arc in super and manga that take place after super hero. I’d like to see Yamcha being one of Dr hedos experiments in a cyborg/advance human. Yamcha has become a joke in the series and this shortcut seems like something he would do putting him up there in power with krillin or an android/gamma. I’d just like to see some love given to him to make him a player in the series again
Android 17 is my favorite android. He went from being food for Cell to being the savior of multiple universes in Super & the true ultimate android in GT
can I just say I absolutely love that shot of the T-800 at 6:52. Its just so iconic for the movie and its right at the beginning. The human skull getting crushed and the machine just standing there, surveying the battlefield, its plasma rifle in one hand and the huge explosion in the distance. Its just such an amazing shot. Even later Terminator movies just havent been able to surpass that in terms of camera shots and scenes
Gero is a genius. He created Cell. A bio mechanical being forged from 3 different alien races with the ability to absorb and incorporate the other androids- who have infinite ki generators
@@darnis6497 Vomi =! Android 21. Vomi or Gero's wife is Canon. Android 21 until further notice is not Canon. She's just based off vomi who we saw in super hero but she doesn't officially exist
@@carmelosmith8782 cause that's his grandmother. He may want to build a Familiar bond with her even though she resembles his dead grandma. I'm just shooting the shit here
@3:56 the first of anime I remember is one of my favorites!!! It is the 1973 anime television series, Shinzō Ningen Kyashān which means "Neo-Human Casshern", known in the United States as Casshan from animation studio Tatsunoko Productions. Back in 1994/95, the U.S. put out a special of anime with the hit anime film Heavy Metal. But what they did was do an anime special that featured Casshan, Ghost in the Shell, Cyborg 009 and few others. These were really awesome and I think Ninja Scholl, Ronin and something else debuted then. I love every single one of these! Along with Dragonball, Naruto and First of the North Star, these add joy to me along with my childhood shows Ultraman - the ultimate of android robots! Of course, Voltron, The Transformers and Gatchamen (more peak human conditioned; augmented like Bionic 6!) all play a part in this with Gundam and Starcon. One of the most exciting of android stories is Silver Hawks, Centaurians and Megaman! There are so many more including Astroboy!!!
In my honest opinion I believe the Android Saga and the cell Saga were the peak of Dragon Ball Z instead of the Majin Buu saga. I'm not saying that as a bad thing I'm just saying that in terms of peakness that the Android and cell saga that were the ones that push Goku and the others to new levels of power before the other events. Timestamp: 1:55 - Creating an Android 6:22 - Mystery of the prototype Androids 13:35 - the Supercomputer projects 18:30 - Dr. Gero's secret 28:10 - Lapis & Lazuli (17 & 18) 40:56 - Dr. Gero's personal projects 51:40 - Dr. Hedo & the Gamma series 58:19 - Other Androids & conclusion
Woah I forgot how old the manga was so you really put into perspective how toriyama had to imagine and make his own technology that keeps up and even exceeded realities but in a style that's not shit or weird but also not outdated even after decades.
It’s a shame almost all of the androids listed here were destroyed in combat with the exception of 8,17,18, and gamma 1. Honestly would like to see more of the android type of characters just because it’s such a different type of story narrative, especially with characters like 21 asking why they were even born.
Hope Toriyama makes #17 and #18 train. With the debut of Hedo in the Capsule Corporation the androids can ask him to modify them to be stronger. Bulma already possess the project of the androids, like we saw during the Cell arc, so Hedo can study the projects and make #17 and #18 stronger. The androids are not into fighting anymore #18 especially, so Toriyama has to think something like "oh no, what if Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Gohan are not here to protect the world?? #17 we need to be stronger to protect our families, let's ask to the little brat to do something and then we go training to the Hyperbolic Time-Chamber"
Quick correction at 22:22 , vegeta wasn’t incapacitated but he was nearly out of energy and bluffed that he was ready for 20. This is confirmed by piccolo after vegeta ate a sensu bean for that very reason. It’s very likely that if android 20 called vegeta’s bluff, vegeta wouldn’t have won the following fight.
DBS 17 was a great inclusion. The best scene was him interrupting the transformations as a tongue in cheek nod to ridiculous wait times for transformations in the series LOL
I would genuinely be interested in seeing the irl timeline where Toriyama stuck to his guns and kept 19 and 20 as main villlains, how would that have played out?
I feel like there was still so much more left out of this explanatory video on the Androids. My mistake was expecting and hoping that you would go over everything that Akira Toriyama had planned and what was changed from what he planned. What I mean by that is I wonder what the Android Saga would have been like if it went the way Akira Toriyama originally intended it to be. I want to know! I am not sure if that could ever a what if video that you can make. Will you make a what if Android Saga went the way Akira Toriyama originally intended it to be in a new video? Entirely up to you Danny! Peace!
The android saga was so much fun. Trunks’ ominous warning and then watching everything unfold leading up to cell. The mystery and sense of terror was epic. Especially on the old VHS tape commercials.
The Android Saga was so much better than anything in Super, I really miss those epic times.
@@Teutonius88 Agreed, but I enjoy super as well. I still enjoy seeing these characters I grew up with interact and super occasionally ascends to pretty epic heights even if the power levels make absolutely no sense anymore. It’s more like Dragonball because they actually get other characters involved rather than just Saiyans.
I much prefer the Androids saga over the Cell saga portion of the arc.
The plot of the arc with its time travel explanation made perfect sense until Cell's ridiculoud time paradox nonsense!
Cell claims he came from a timeline where the androids wrecked the future AND where Trunks went back in time to kill Freiza. Only one of these can be true.
@Teleportdinero the chosen one🇮🇹 thanks for the spam
A black woman created both the terminator and the matrix, Toriyama was indirectly influenced by a female Black author whether he knows it or not 🚫
Also I find it funny that 17 always said he was the “ultimate/strongest android.” Then he kinda had the wind taken out of him when cell came around and 16 was revealed to be stronger. However, everything kinda came back around full circle and now 17 is basically the only one to rival goku. I LOVE that they brought him back. I was disappointed after the cell saga when he was shelved for awhile. But they brought him back and made him bad ass
Need to bring back 16 too
@@Jayson-fv1cwhes never coming back and thats that
@@Jayson-fv1cwYes I've been saying that for years just wish back his Red ribbon chip Bulma will make him a new body
@@DowntownTasty GT did it first. :^)
Thank you for the early Christmas gift, Geekdom! The androids are such a underrated part of the DB world.
I was always amazed with the idea in DB and DBZ that scientists like Dr Gero and Bulma we're able to not only create androids but then create androids whom were even more powerful than super Saiyans.
Bulma invented a time machine that was capable of backwards time travel and her father invented a way to compress large matter (cars, fully equipped and furnished houses, etc) into portable devices the size of a pill - without any ill effects lol.
To be honest, genius scientists figuring out a way to create strong fighters based on observation and using their data/cells is more buyable than the ass-pull explanations of new mystical villains appearing out of the blue (like Majin Buu and Beerus) that's stronger than the last one, because the plot demands it. It worked up until the Frieza arc, Frieza was supposed to be the strongest being in the universe. It's a problem that plagues DBZ/DB Super more than the original DB, as in that, there was no emphasis on power levels (Goku was fighting strong people and villains on Earth) and no one had the power to obliterate the world at the touch of their fingers.
Yeah, what material would be strong enough lol. I mean Namex Frieza was very strong. He was emperor of Galaxy. Weird that a human can made material and energy as much as those who have conquer galaxy
I always loved how Trunks especially teen trunks from the trunks special was probably modeled after John Connor in Terminator 2.
The android saga blew my tiny mind as a young boy. First realizing Frieza is back, there's another saiyan, the fact that he's also a SSJ, about the androids and Trunks' timeline, that they aren't the same androids Trunks was referring to, that the new ones are stronger, and that the newest villain, Cell, was potentially going to be the strongest. Oh, and Vegeta in a shower and wearing a pink shirt lol
Great video. One of your best ever. As the runtime was getting toward the end I was like “how is he gonna fit Cell in this small of a time frame we have left?”. Can’t say how hyped I am for a Cell stand-alone video.
Honestly the gammas being so strong makes more sense if you think that they had to sacrifice a lot of beneficial hacks like ki absorbtion infinite energy or even the ability to fire ki them selves all for raw power
Wow what a cope, if that were the case don't you think gero would have wanted God strength and not less than super saiyan strength? Lol
@Chief Sitting Feather (We'z fake Indigenous!!) you really don't think that's them coping over why gero and 19 are weaker than the gammas?
Cope -
(of a person) deal effectively with something difficult.
"his ability to cope with stress"
(of a machine or system) have the capacity to deal successfully with.
"the roads are barely adequate to cope with the present traffic"
Learn how words work next time you try to sound smart
@@ArizonaTeaMan cope is a verb you used it as a noun. At the end of the day you're usage is wrong. I like you copied and pasted the definition except the most important part.
The fact that it's a verb. And you used it as a noun. Otherwise your grammar is wrong. Because there's no subject before the comma. Ergo it's an incomplete sentence. Or you used the word wrong. Either way. You come off as wrong and dumb.
Video Chapters:
0:00:00:00 Introduction
0:01:27:07 Title Card
0:01:55:13 Part 1: Creating An Android
0:06:17:03 Part 2: Early Models (Androids 1-12)
0:13:33:05 Part 3: Super Computers (Androids 13-15)
0:18:23:13 Part 4: Dr Gero's Secret (Androids 19-20)
0:28:10:20 Part 5: Lapis and Lazuli (Androids 17 and 18)
0:40:46:00 Part 6: Family (Android 16 and Android 21)
0:51:40:15 Part 7: Super Hero (Gamma 1 and Gamma 2)
0:58:16:09 Part 8: Conclusion (Extra Androids + More)
A black woman created both the terminator and the matrix, Toriyama was indirectly influenced by a female Black author whether he knows it or not 🚫
So good! The Android and Cell arcs are my favorite out of the series! :)
The Cell saga sucked. The android saga was much better, at least it made sense.
Just finished watching the entire video and I enjoyed this video yes androids while being the most fascinating characters to come out of Dragon ball weren't so much celebrated but in the recent media including the video game fighter Z and Superhero, the movie has not only expanded upon the androids involvement in the story but also makes them so much more popular. Once again a very well-made video and I enjoyed it very much.
@Teleportdinero the chosen one🇮🇹 🫠
Just great timing big D. My wife has gotten really into dragon ball, we started watching it around 4 months ago and we are just about to rap up the garlic Jr Arc. She just loves the show and Ader...8er...is one of her favorite characters. I can't wait
for her to meet 17 and 18. Happy holidays and or just happy couple days off!!
I always liked the headcannon for the Super Android 13 movie that it takes place in the timeline where the Z Fighters defeated the Androids and Cell didn't show up.
yes!
A black woman created both the terminator and the matrix, Toriyama was indirectly influenced by a female Black author whether he knows it or not 🚫
@@secondexodus9105 Okay, and...?.
@@secondexodus9105 sir. Are you ok?
@@k9vendettathewolfofmordor529 what's the big deal... It's just a fun fact
And this is why this guy is THE BEST Dragon Ball TH-cam. The research you did for this man. Who else does great stuff like this? NOBODY!!!!
He’s definitely on the dragon ball TH-camr Rushmore
I love this video. I am a huge fan of the androids was not knowing alot about them even I was reading the manga. The new connections with Gero, Android 21 & 16 is great and happy to see that Gero and his family get more lore to them :)
Interestingly enough, 17 and 18 couldn’t sense power levels, but could read other things. For example when vegetas attack missed, 18 said something like he was off by 2 degrees. This combined with their eternal energy cores really make them fascinating. They were always my favorite characters tbh. I wonder if gero just hadn’t completed their energy sensing function.
17 and 18 were boring 😴
@@christopherkennawi9675 in your opinion.
i think 17 and 18 were rushed, so yeah he probably didn’t get a chance to include the energy sensing
The thing with energy sensing is that probably only sentient beings can sense other peoples life energy androids dont really have life energu they have artificial energy. Sensing ki is something learned and if u dont have ki how can u sense it the androids have energy.
He has a built-in scouter his head@@ImmortalHulk98
Yet again, thank you Danny for another great video, I appreciate the efforts you put into these videos whether it be quickies or the long ones (pause) thank you for your time and Knowledge. 💪🙏🏼
The Androids were a crucial part in Dragon Ball Super's Tournament of Power. Android 17 was the last one standing in the ring and won the Tournament of Power for universe 7
A video this detailed definitely deserves an hour long breakdown.
I always thought It was crazy how the androids where stronger than freeza who was the emperor of the universe and they were made on earth.
Hey been watching you for a few years just want to give you flowers and give you thanks for still dropping new content. Can't wait for the anime to drop God bless and hope you had a good xmas
early christmas gift! Love your in-depth videos on Dragon Ball. the androids are badass and interesting
Considering Eighter is a frankenstien's monster, he certainly had a soul... Which like the Alphas in Dragonball Super Chapter 88, likely had various body parts stolen from a nearby cemetery. Meaning he was a restless, wandering spirit who is practically immortal.
That’s just more headcanon though. Being built to RESEMBLE Frankenstein’s monster doesn’t automatically equate to BEING Frankenstein’s monster. There’s no indication that he was composed of human body parts. The look was likely just an aesthetic choice.
@@RobTutt17 Nope. Nope. Fucking. NOPE. In anime filler, it is said that Android 8 was a Human-type Earthling who died and was resurrected as a human-based model android by Dr. Flappe on the orders of General White.
He's literally a reanimated corpse and you are so wrong it makes my dick tingle.
Oooooh.
Wrong.
You're wroooong!
@@tylerthompson3075 key words being “anime filler”. All of which was created without the involvement, or permission, of Akira Toriyama. 8 is OFFICIALLY an entirely artificial construct.
@@RobTutt17 It's in the show. It's official.
@@RobTutt17 Garlic Jr didn't happen? What about Broly? Super Hero isn't CANON either?
They are all legitimate story beats officially serialized by Toei animation.
"HURR DUUR IT'S NOT IN THE MANGA SO IT ISN'T REAL"
No. Fuck you.
Love the android saga more then any other love the callbacks to the beginning of dragon ball.
Thank you for this great Christmas Present Danny! Awesome and hugely detailed video as always.
You as a a person are another reason why I'm proud and happy to be a Dragon Ball fan.
Merry Christmas!
The Androids were amazing. They were created by man, but made even more powerful than Frieza & a Super Saiyan.
Piccolo remarked that Gamma 1 and 2 are stronger than Goku and Vegeta.
Dr. Hedo made bionic beings that are stronger than most gods.
@@ProtoAlphaAnd imagine what Cell Max could have been like if it was activated when it was completely ready 😳
This documentary breakdown style video is 👏
It would have made more sense to me if Goku had killed Gero's son (who we knew was a RR soldier at some point) that served as the prototype for #16. Goku was very trigger-happy during his younger years and murdered all those soldiers from the RRA in cold blood, so it would have made more sense than Gero being so hellbent on revenge if all Goku did was destroy the RRA base without him around.
Great video from the truly excellent In Depth. Since the Cell Arc is my favorite arc, I love this.
Freeza was much better. Better plot and story.
@@LordMalice6d9 To each their own but I also love the Freeza arc. But the pay off of Gohan ascending Super Saiyan was so powerful. That, plus Piccolo and Kami reuniting, time travel twists, imperfect cell being legit scary in his intro, Future Trunks’s story, and 17 and 18 being such unusual characters. And, much more.
@@grapes9h5 Pay off? What pay off? Gohan's ss2 transformation does not have anywhere near the level of build up that Goku's did and the narrative trigger for it is even more thematically and narratively hollow. Gohan transforms after the death of an android Gohan had never even meet until the day of the fight with Cell.
The pacing of the Freeza saga was arduous, but the moment Goku transformed fit the story that had been set up since the saiyan saga. Gohan does not get this justification in spite of deserving more since his inner power was always hinted at. The second half of the cell saga is a narrative mess.
@@LordMalice6d9 I concede to your superior wisdom.
@@grapes9h5 Glad you could see my flawless logic for what it is.
The irony that Dr. Gero created the androids for destruction, but it was thanks to his creations that the universe was saved and multiverse restored.
48:00 Its such a shame she only debuted in the videogame, I was hoping she'd be shown in super dragon ball heroes but that didn't happen either, I hope she gets a part in either manga or anime
i actually thought it was cool to have a videogame exclusive character, but now that she appeared in the super hero movie, shes canon. you just might get your wish
@@hawshimagical well at least that's better than nothing
She was hinted at in the movie. If we are lucky she could come up in DBS near future
Huh ? She was so trash and garbage story wtf are u on?
Nice work! I love all your work man! Also Merry Christmas to you Geekdom.
Great video Danny I can tell uve bout alot of time into it and I've definitely learned some new things watching it
To me probably the most underrated arc in all of Dragonball.
Awesome kick-ass video! You always deliver with a deep-dive retrospective on everything Dragon Ball, my man! Loved the series since I first watched it back in '98 on Cartoon Network's Toonami! Those were the days! After the series was over, I had done research when I was 11 as much as any fan and so on. Never did stopped. Yet you had beat me to the punch here. Nice, Geekdom! The reason why is I'm an aspiring cartoonist and Toriyama-sensei is one of my all-time favorite inspirations along with others (ex: Stan Lee, Genndy Tartakovsky, Dwayne McDuffie, Bruce Timm, Tite Kubo, Monkey Punch, and Hirohiko Araki). Got a thing for Japanese culture as I love it. Total otaku. My name is Kenny btw. Also, Do you or anyone know the song at the beginning of the "Creating an Android" section of the video? Sounds very poppy!
Awesome video. Even down to the song that says Danger in the beginning. Though I have no idea what it is. Excellent Big D
An hour! Excellent. Thanks for you and your teams hard work and effort G
What i remember about the andriod saga is how introduced us to other concept of time travel that you can change the past but not your future
This is why you're the best Geekdom. Awesome video!!!
One of the inspirations for the Gammas people seem to miss is a ver old anime called Cyborg 009. The Gammas' outfit resemble a lot the costumes of those characters.
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Nice content. I thought i was done with the DB series because when Super came out i thought hell what happened to the animation? But from the perspective of these in-depth reviews, it’s quite fun. Even for my age of 31 lol. Kudos, man
In both dubs, and I'm pretty sure in the sub, (it's been a while since I've seen the show), but Android 17 scan Android 16 in the pod before they released him, and Android 17 said that he was stronger than Android 16 because of the data or something like that, but when Android 16 fought Cell it was shown that he was stronger than everyone at that time. So it always had me thinking, if there were a few bugs, or a defect on 17's design, or something like that.
Or 17 lied? He's a human, he can lie.
In the upcoming arc in super and manga that take place after super hero. I’d like to see Yamcha being one of Dr hedos experiments in a cyborg/advance human. Yamcha has become a joke in the series and this shortcut seems like something he would do putting him up there in power with krillin or an android/gamma. I’d just like to see some love given to him to make him a player in the series again
Android 17 is my favorite android. He went from being food for Cell to being the savior of multiple universes in Super & the true ultimate android in GT
Who'd win in a battle? Super 17 or Super's 17?
@@064razor DBS 17
Pleaee don’t mention super… that entire series is a joke.
Thank you…
Seek help.
@@064razorSuper 17 from gt obviously
can I just say I absolutely love that shot of the T-800 at 6:52. Its just so iconic for the movie and its right at the beginning. The human skull getting crushed and the machine just standing there, surveying the battlefield, its plasma rifle in one hand and the huge explosion in the distance. Its just such an amazing shot. Even later Terminator movies just havent been able to surpass that in terms of camera shots and scenes
29:55 is there a book that's an archive of all of Toriyama's Interviews?
These long video are a good mix with your other vids! Feels like a documentary and I enjoy the ride
I would love another cameo from Android 8 and Suno. To maybe have Goku see them again.
@Teleportdinero the chosen one🇮🇹 Dude, what the...?
I've waited so long for this video! Thanks Danny :)
@telegrammeitalk048 Are you really Danny? I mean, this is a different account, you only have 2 subscribers and he has thousands
Great video my guy!
What a history lesson!
Great job Geekdom! Future Trunks Saga is still my favorite to this day.
Was waiting for this! Thanks for the Xmas present, merry Xmas D
Thanks for the AWESOME christmas present, Danny!
The Trunks/Androids/Cell sagas were peak DBZ 🤌🏼✨
I Waited A Long Time For This Video Amazing Work
HELL YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR EVERY FOR THIS MERRY CHRISTMAS BRO!!!!!
Gero is a genius. He created Cell. A bio mechanical being forged from 3 different alien races with the ability to absorb and incorporate the other androids- who have infinite ki generators
Bro i love this channel so much 😩 I always listen to it in the background while I play Kakarot or Xenoverse 2. Thank u for the lore 😊
The best Dragontuber to do it!
He did it. He put Warning Of Danger in the video. Danny you are the GOAT
@telegrammeitalk048 Stop posing as Geekdom101. I know your not him.
I'm telling you. Dr. Hedo is going to be the gateway into introducing Android 21 in the story via a canon way. It all makes sense
She was already made canon in Super Hero
@@darnis6497 Vomi =! Android 21.
Vomi or Gero's wife is Canon. Android 21 until further notice is not Canon. She's just based off vomi who we saw in super hero but she doesn't officially exist
She's dead
@Matthew W and hedo hated Dr Geo,why on earth would he build a android resembling geo wife. Doesn't make no sense whatsoever
@@carmelosmith8782 cause that's his grandmother. He may want to build a Familiar bond with her even though she resembles his dead grandma.
I'm just shooting the shit here
What a well made and detailed video as always great job Geekdom.
Awesome job on the video.
phenomenal video as always so much info to get into this channel oes so much for my love of dragon ball thanks geekdom
I like to believe 16 didn't just have an effect on Gohan, but 17 and 18 as well
Yes I been waiting for this on Christmas Day.
10/10 video bro I learned so much
Amazing Video idea!
@3:56 the first of anime I remember is one of my favorites!!! It is the 1973 anime television series, Shinzō Ningen Kyashān which means "Neo-Human Casshern", known in the United States as Casshan from animation studio Tatsunoko Productions.
Back in 1994/95, the U.S. put out a special of anime with the hit anime film Heavy Metal. But what they did was do an anime special that featured Casshan, Ghost in the Shell, Cyborg 009 and few others.
These were really awesome and I think Ninja Scholl, Ronin and something else debuted then. I love every single one of these! Along with Dragonball, Naruto and First of the North Star, these add joy to me along with my childhood shows Ultraman - the ultimate of android robots! Of course, Voltron, The Transformers and Gatchamen (more peak human conditioned; augmented like Bionic 6!) all play a part in this with Gundam and Starcon. One of the most exciting of android stories is Silver Hawks, Centaurians and Megaman! There are so many more including Astroboy!!!
In my honest opinion I believe the Android Saga and the cell Saga were the peak of Dragon Ball Z instead of the Majin Buu saga. I'm not saying that as a bad thing I'm just saying that in terms of peakness that the Android and cell saga that were the ones that push Goku and the others to new levels of power before the other events.
Timestamp:
1:55 - Creating an Android
6:22 - Mystery of the prototype Androids
13:35 - the Supercomputer projects
18:30 - Dr. Gero's secret
28:10 - Lapis & Lazuli (17 & 18)
40:56 - Dr. Gero's personal projects
51:40 - Dr. Hedo & the Gamma series
58:19 - Other Androids & conclusion
Great Job Danny!
Has there ever been an explanation on why Pirate Robot had a #2 on it?
Cause he was number #2!
Woah I forgot how old the manga was so you really put into perspective how toriyama had to imagine and make his own technology that keeps up and even exceeded realities but in a style that's not shit or weird but also not outdated even after decades.
"I'm gonna range the hell outta that park."
-Android 17, DBZA
These videos make dragon ball so much more fun
The Android saga is so crazy the horror of 19 and 20 showing up it so scary honestly. Merry Christmas Geekdom 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
This saga and cell are my favorites in the Z series. I'm ready for this video
The best arc in DBZ for me. Loved the introduction of 17 and 18. Great additions to the z team over time.
If I remember correctly, the androids from original dragon ball, they weren’t made by gero, they were created by frappe.
I was wondering when this was gonna be released lol been anticipating it for the longest
1:15 I saw Gohan, Tien, and Killing give Imperfect Cell the middle finger. I like it along with info about androids.
Really enjoyed this video
good work man
Last time Ssj hair looked badass was during the Android saga (fluffy/spiky hair Goku) I'll miss that look forever☹️
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS SINCE YOU ANNOUNCED IT ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO
It’s a shame almost all of the androids listed here were destroyed in combat with the exception of 8,17,18, and gamma 1. Honestly would like to see more of the android type of characters just because it’s such a different type of story narrative, especially with characters like 21 asking why they were even born.
Great analysis video on the red ribbon androids Geekdom101!
I think all the Androids to absorb energy it's just uncanny especially for Super 17
34:14 why is his scarf so big😭😭😭
DANNY’S BEST VIDEO YET!
This is several past videos of his compiled into one video, lol
Hope Toriyama makes #17 and #18 train. With the debut of Hedo in the Capsule Corporation the androids can ask him to modify them to be stronger. Bulma already possess the project of the androids, like we saw during the Cell arc, so Hedo can study the projects and make #17 and #18 stronger. The androids are not into fighting anymore #18 especially, so Toriyama has to think something like "oh no, what if Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Gohan are not here to protect the world?? #17 we need to be stronger to protect our families, let's ask to the little brat to do something and then we go training to the Hyperbolic Time-Chamber"
Happy new year Geekdom101!
Great content!
Man, these videos are my favourites. So reminiscent of early days Geekdom. Brings me back to simpler times
What do you mean? Geekdoms's content has really changed all that much. It's still be the same.
Quick correction at 22:22 , vegeta wasn’t incapacitated but he was nearly out of energy and bluffed that he was ready for 20. This is confirmed by piccolo after vegeta ate a sensu bean for that very reason. It’s very likely that if android 20 called vegeta’s bluff, vegeta wouldn’t have won the following fight.
DBS 17 was a great inclusion. The best scene was him interrupting the transformations as a tongue in cheek nod to ridiculous wait times for transformations in the series LOL
Love your videos
I would genuinely be interested in seeing the irl timeline where Toriyama stuck to his guns and kept 19 and 20 as main villlains, how would that have played out?
I feel like there was still so much more left out of this explanatory video on the Androids. My mistake was expecting and hoping that you would go over everything that Akira Toriyama had planned and what was changed from what he planned. What I mean by that is I wonder what the Android Saga would have been like if it went the way Akira Toriyama originally intended it to be. I want to know! I am not sure if that could ever a what if video that you can make. Will you make a what if Android Saga went the way Akira Toriyama originally intended it to be in a new video? Entirely up to you Danny! Peace!