As most of your other viewers below indicated, you did a much better job than trying to understand the description listed in the operator's manual. Thank you.
Traction control completely off with 4wd on is incredibly useful in deep snow. I use it all the time on frozen lakes ice fishing. Traction control will get u stuck 100% of the time in this scenario as it cuts power to the wheels when they spin and eventually cuts engine power. Always turn off traction control completely in deep snow.
This video was awesome and super helpful! I’ve read threads online on Tacoma sites about the differences of Trac off, auto lsd, VSC etc and they are always a little confusing without real world examples to go with them. Thanks for making a video like this! These trucks are awesome.
As a new Tacoma owner I’ve been really struggling to figure out what all the buttons REALLY do, not just what the manual says. This was awesome and you’ve got a new sub!
I bought a new Tacoma and while I haven't had much time to play with it, the dealer certainly doesn't go into depth on all the little tricks etc. Thank you very much for explaining all of this, super helpful!!
This is why I believe a Trd Sport is just as capable at off roading as a trd off road in 95% of scenarios. And an auto lsd is 2nd best to a rear locker and is why I chose the trd sport for the mild off roading I tend to to here and there. I also like the painted fender arches and number insert that the trd sport has compared to the trd off road. 95% of my time is on pavement but the other 5% I do go off road The trd sport does almost as good from the factory in most cases that the trd off road does. Thanks for demonstrating the auto lsd in this video!
And the sport has a very good road tuned suspension vs the soft off road suspension on the off road. You bough the perfect truck for your needs for sure!
I bought my first Toyota Tacoma last year. I pulled into the dealership with my car limping into the dealership. The salesman said he would give me 2500 for it the day before before he seen the car in person. But all they had was a brand new SR5 and a TRD off-road with 6k miles on it both 2 wheel drive. I ended up getting the TRD for 36k out the door. I was bummed out that I wasn’t able to get 4 wheel but live in Florida so figured I could deal with it. But my girl has accidentally hit that rear locker button near the sunroof twice now and when I put it in gear to go I realize what’s going on but I can’t figure out how to get it back off. I’ve went through the manual but everything I’ve tried doesn’t work. Do you have any advice on how to do it? Or any tips or tricks because both times I’ve had to have it towed into the dealership and they say it was off by the time they’ve been able to get to it! I’m sure it’s just error on my part but figured I could just hit the button back and it would turn off. I’ve tried to hard press it for 3 seconds in neutral and in drive and tried just hitting it quickly in both but wasn’t able to get it off both times? Any advice would help! And thanks on the heads up on the LSD I could use that at the beach
@whiskythrottle8421 on my 4x4 version you ha e to be in 4 low to work the locker. I know on the 2wd you can use the locker anytime. But I believe just hitting the button again will disengage it. But I don't know for sure as I don't own the 2wd.
@@Jason-Samko right on I appreciate it. Yeah the second time it happened I had the mechanic drive it with me in it to show me what to do. But even he was having trouble to get it to turn off once the truck was put in D or reverse he said you have to drive it straight for a little bit then disengage it. But it took him a couple times before it worked and it was right after closing time so he was kind of in a hurry to get home. So I’m a little worried to hit it just to get it figured out because I’m worried it’s going to get stuck on again. To me something doesn’t make sense because you would think all you would have to do is hit the button again to disengage it. I don’t know but I appreciate the info you gave on this video because that will definitely help me on the beach and I live down a 3 mile dirt road and when we have hurricanes is the only time I’ve really needed a 4x4 but hopefully your trick will help! Happy thanksgiving brother
@whiskythrottle8421 with the locker in the 4x4 model we have to turn the wheel back and forth a little to get the locker to engage or disengage. So.e times even have to go I to reverse a bit then back I to drive to get it to engage or disengage. In other words, toyota lockers are very sticky and finicky.
I’ve owned my 2wd Tacoma for 6 years & learned that this button is PERFECT for gravel roads but never realized until now I probably could have saved myself a lot of trouble in the snow/mud if I used it for those situations too! Thank you!
You can use it to back into a trailer on uneven ground, when you are turning your front wheels and have a lot of scrub angle. It just adds control. You could use 4l but you have to have the front involved and that can be a problem. There's a lot of uses for these systems, if you have a long relationship with Toyota trucks, you can see how Toyota has kept the same capabilities but with a different feature set. And that's why there's long time Toyot afans. I'd personally rip all that crap out and add manual hubs lol.
The auto lsd uses the abs system to to apply micro braking (essentially) to keep the low traction wheel from spinning.thats what that "buzzing" sound is. Its the ABS system applying and releasing the brakes super fast. That same thing happens when you slam on your brakes. The pulsing is the ABS system. In old school 4wd's, you could (and still can) achieve the same thing by left foot braking. It's lightly holding the brake with your left foot and using controlled throttle with the right. The people at the AM general driving school (they made the military HMMWV's) they call it "brake modulation."
you are 100% correct. The algorithms today are much more precise and capable than the old way of 2 foot driving thru obstacles. But is sure is a good method to know still.
@Kill4Time255 Ford uses torsen front lockers on thier trucks. They work very well. Not quite the same as a true electronic or air locker but very darn close and you never have to fight with it. Torsen makes a great system.
@Kill4Time255 sure about that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I never heard of that. Torsen diffs work by the way the gear train interfaces such that slipping causes the interlocking spur and worm gears to lock when it "senses" differential torque (TORque SENsing). Brake modulation just helps eliminate the free spinning wheel that has lost traction. I can't remember if there was a locked differential setting on the 4wd gear shift. I do know that some (maybe all) humvees have portal axles, and that gear reduction was another factor in the really good off-road traction they could get. Another feature, kind of unrelated, was that the disc brakes were mounted inboard near the center line on the truck. That's why we were told not to use the brakes to stop a free wheel from spinning. You would snap a half-shaft under the rotational weight of the spinning tire. Of course, Joe has to test it, so one dude broke a CV axle, thinking the instructor was making it up.
Yup I own a 2.7 2WD (2020 Taco) and went to the beach with super soft sand last year. I hit that button and was able to make it through all the beach! I did get completely stuck once and was dead stopped, I gunned the throttle and still was able to get out!! Dont under estimate the 2WD on these tacomas! The fact that I run wide Toyo AT3s probably helped too. Another thing I will do is air down next time. I was not aired down in this instance.
Nice job. You helped me understand this feature a whole lot better than the manual or other posts covering the same feature. I've been using this while driving on snow covered paved roads verses using 4 wheel. Truck handles well. I'll give it a go on snow covered dirt roads today and see how it does. Again, good posting and Thanks.
Thanks for the tutorial ! The wife and I recently bought a used 2016 Sequoia and are learning the ends and outs (first Toyota) of all modes. I appreciate the real life-time applications. I am now a new subscriber !
In normal mode with traction control on, the system applies micro brakes when wheel spin is detected. It will also try to keep the wheels from over spinning. This helps prevent spinouts on wet and/or icy roads. Especially on ice, when the slippery surface will cause rapid wheel spin as all friction is lost as power is applied. Why we were taught to "lift" the peddle when you hit ice to maintain tire to ice contact, maximizing traction. In LSD mode, the wheel spin limiter is disabled but the system still tries to keep both wheels spinning at the same speed. This mimics a mechanical LSD, or as others have commented positraction (which is a brand name?). And yes, riding the brake, or better yet the parking brake, can help get you out of a hole for the same reason. In loose sand or snow you sometimes need faster wheel spin to maintain speed or accelerate. Think of a boat moving through water with a propeller spinning at the back. You are plowing through soft stuff.
Thanks for this info. Have owned a Tacoma 10 years and never used this button because I did not understand it from the manual. I always use 4x4 instead.
this helped me greatly high speed on the beach changing lanes. thanks for the 3 second one. I think the hold 3 seconds turns off stability control which is what I needed.
Thanks for a great video. Leased my Tacoma ten months ago. The dealership handed me the keys after signing. No explanation of features. Here’s proof you can teach an old dog new tricks.
That's awesome I just got a 2021 work truck two-wheel drive and this system comes standard! It doesn't snow much in New York anymore but it should come in handy from time to time
I just bought a 2023 SR5 . This was really informative. Question.. do you put it in Neutral then switch to 4 wheel drive. Then Drive? Can the Toyota Tacoma be moving slow when I switch to 4x4??
You can switch between 2wd and 4high while driving straight at speeds under 50 mph. To shift into 4 low you need to come to a stop, shift into neutral, then shift into 4 low, then into drive. In 4 low you should always be on loose ground and speeds under 20 mph.
I really appreciate this video. I often find that 4WD is too much for a light dirt parking lot or sharp corner mountain road. Your explanation of the LSD is that small gap in traction that I need without worrying about binding or excessive stopping to "clunk" it into gear.
My understanding of it is the anti-lock braking system is applying brake to the spinning wheel forcing the open differential to transfer power to the opposite wheel. I did use it once and it worked but don't think it is a traditional limited slip. I think there is a warning in the manual not to use it at high RPM. The sound you hear in the video is the anti-lock system bumping the brake to the spinning wheel. Correct me if I am wrong.
You are correct. It's a computer controlled brake locking limited slip. This truck does have a true rear locker too. But toyota makes it a pain to use the rear locker as you have to be in 4 low and getting the rear locker to engage is often a pain in the butt. So this button is great when that extra traction is needed without all the fuss.
I have a new to me 2019 Tundra. I'm going to make a cheat sheet for 3 separate conditions. 2wd, 4H and 4L. In 2wd, pushing the button 3 seconds turns off trac completely. The advantage is that trac when ON reduces engine power. Good for slippery highway conditions. When trac off happens the engine power reduction feature is cancelled, giving you more power to the wheels. It's confusing. You have to be aware of when ABS vs engine power reduction occurs. And it's different when in 4H and 4L. Until this is second nature I'll need the cheat sheet.
In my opinion no. On slippery surfaces I think letting the computer controlled traction control is the best bet. Where this button shines is soft sand, mud, deeper snow etc. Things you need so power to get thru and don't want traction control cutting the power to the wheels while you are trying to muscle thru
Probably could but I don't see why you would. I'd also check the manual to see if there is a speed restriction. I know I've done 60 with mile on, but in the dirt
I'm not sure about the gen 2. Try holding it like I do in the video and see what gauge lights kick in to tell you want it's doing. Love the gen 2 tacomas!
@@Jason-Samko its a 2o11 single cab 4wd automatic... Barcelona Red with black bumpers and flares. very sharp looking little truck you do not see out there everyday! it belongs to my mother but I have been driving it for the past 2 months (including a nasty midwest blizzard) while my '97 Gen1 Taco has been in a Yota specialty shop in Chicago getting its first new clutch at 341k miles and unfortunately had to also get a rebuilt manual transmission input shaft was roached (plus a bunch of other new steering and suspension parts on the old rig)
All I could think is imagine someone watching him from a distance thinking to themselves, “gosh this must be this guys first time ever seeing dirt” 😂😂😂 great video and explanation tho. I think it’s a shame how common it is people have such a feature rich truck and never utilize any of it. I love using the auto lsd for this exact reason, a generally off road cruise where you need both wheels in the fight, but if I want to rip through trails quickly, and get the back end loose on turns, that’s when you first hold that button till it shows TRAC OFF. And of course 4 high works great if you quickly get into some shit and you don’t want to even risk getting stuck since you can just turn it on, on the go. Lastly, if you are hitting some trails on side of mountains with insane steep angles, 4 Low can do some pretty impressive stuff. I’ll put it in first gear as well with ect on and it can put in work on the steepest of hills
4 high still has traction control on unless you use this to turn it off. Traction control is great on slippery roads. But when you get into sand, mud, or deep snow you need some power to get thru it and traction control kills the power as soon as a wheel starts to slip.
have you made a video about the rear locker? I have a 2wd 22' trd off road and I'm still learning what to do (especially since it's not 4wd) when I finally hit the trails for the first time. Thank you so much for this great explanation!!!!!
I can see the Jeep guy sitting in the tree 100 yards away watching a Toyota struggle up the hill dying laughing. No clue you’re making a video in there 😂
what about at a wet boat launch ramp? would hitting that button help? I imagine it would to give both rear wheels the ability to pull the boat up the wet ramp.
I’m at one year with my 4x4 TRD off road and everything where I live is paved. I knew this of course before I bought it . I do love the truck and love the videos in case I ever need to use them . Do you have other videos that demonstrate the other unique buttons on the Tacoma TRD 4x4.?
Honestly, I'd like to get my default set at TRAC OFF. For the hunting that I do, those extra seconds matter and the auto LSD setting still has traction control on
@RodneyGearheart wish it did. It doesn't. I actually made a video about that called "why wouldn't toyota give us this". Sad they didn't. But a fantastic question!
@czar3030 on my channel search good year ultra terrain. Those are the tired and I show the exact size in that video. They were amazing tires. I don't own the truck anymore.
Does the vehicle stabilization feature work if you’re pulling a trailer too? I’m looking at getting a pontoon boat and pulling with my 21 Tacoma with the tow package. Trailer and boat weigh about 2,800-2,900 pounds and no trailer brakes.
Yes it does. Works all the time unless you turn it off. I pulled a 3k enclosed trailer daily with my 22 tacoma and it did excellent. Will be cake walk easy pulling your boat.
Great video. Question, though. I thought I saw where the button should only be pushed when vehicle isn't moving. So, seeing a rough patch ahead you'd have to stop and engage? Or am I having a senior moment😂? Thanks
I do not believe that is the case with the button. You might be thinking of the rear locker button or 4x4 low nob. But i pushed this button going down the road many times
Great vid. One question...Should that feature only be used in short, get-out-of-trouble situations, or can it also be engaged for longer runs in sand and/or snow?
@@Jason-Samko calling it an LSD is wrong as the diff isn't doing anything. Yes toyota does it, but just because it is shorthand for their brake control system on the rear. You should check out the anytime locker kit from expirimental designs, will be much better than the "auto lsd"
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Very good explanation. However, I prefer to just as easily hit that 4H button for much better situational response. Not to mention, the 4 wheal drive train needs to be exercised pretty frequently to keep the operation functioning smoothly.
Looks like my neck of the woods in Northern Michigan! I'm new to Tacoma's and my old 4 wheel drive has none of this traction control stuff so I appreciate the tips on how to use it. Take care!
Thanks for this video! I have a 23 off road and last winter when I bought it there wasn’t any weather to speak of. I’ll know what to do this year if we get some snow… I’ve always hated having to engage 4wd on those “in between” road situations…
For deep snow spots it will help with the extra traction. Be careful using it on light snow covered places as turning on the lsd also turns off the traction control. Toyota has amazing traction control to keep you from slipping spinning and losing control. This is more valuable of a button for off road than it is for on road.
I sold the truck and dont know witch buttons you are talking about I know the rear locker button is up there. What do the buttons say. I can answer it for you
you have to use the locker in 4 low. this limited slip button doesnt work in 4x4. I made a video about it not long after making this one. Was pretty bummed.
@@Jason-Samko Thank you for confirming, I'm getting the sport here soon so won't have the default rear Elocker. Any recommendations if I choose an aftermarket ARB air locker, ie front vs back and or size?
I got a 2wd trd sport with all terrains and I’ve never gone through sand that deep nice knowing I might get through stuff like that if need be( also carry traction boards on the roof rack knowing ima need em)
no settings. let the traction control that is always on work for you in that situation and keep your speed slow. this button is for snow, sand, mud, hills, etc where you need extra traction.
Great video . Questions have a 2wd Tacoma bought it in Florida and now moved to Pittsburgh, which, if you don't know anything about Pittsburgh is extremely hilly, and now that is snowing kind of difficult to drive do you suggest on trading it for a four-wheel-drive?
4 wheel drive definitely helps in the snow and in the slippery conditions. But I bet switching to snow tires for thr winter will make a huge difference. You can buy cheap steel wheels on amazon for very cheap and install snow tires on them. Easy to switch in the winter.
I'm pretty sure when the auto LSD light is on, auto LSD is deactivated. All it does is apply the brakes to the wheel that is spinning to send power to the opposite wheel.
If this location is near your house, go try again, but hold the button down to get TRAC OFF, just like you said at beginning, and gun it up the hill. You did not try that option. The computer was stopping you. You will answer y our own question posed at 01:43
if you are on loose surfaces you can use 4hi. dirt roads are grat places to use 4hi and its good to use it every month to keep things working smoothly.
In the soft loose michigan sand all trucks do it. Because the tires try to climb up and then sink right back in repeatedly. If you look at the tracks when im done you can see it in the tracks.
I recommend leaving it off in slippery conditions as traction control today is very advanced and will help you. The engage 4high you don't need to be in park. To engage 4kow you have to stop and shift the transmission into neutral before going to 4low
Amazing info! Brand new owner of a 23 and first winter in mountains. If I understand correctly (and sorry for silly question) when you engage 4H this would auto disengage? Or I’d have to turn it off yo switch into 4H when terrain changes? Many thanks! 😊
Congrats on the new truck! In the sand or deep snow or mud turn the traction control off so that it let's you get some wheel spin if you need it to power thru. On snowy roads or icy roads leave traction control on so that the system can help keep you from spinning or looseing control on the road. Traction control still works in 4 high. But when you shift into 4 low it turns off. With you being in the mtns you will most use 2wd on dry roads and 4 high when conditions get bad with snow or ice. You can shift from 2wd to 4high while you are driving as long as your speed is under 50 mph. So if you are ay low evaluation and dry 2wd as you drive higher and start to get to icy or snowy roads switch into 4 high, then when back down low and dry roads switch back to 2wd. Again that can all be done while driving 50 and under. 4 low is for slow moving big obstacle driving and is ment to only be used under 20mph. You will only use 4 low if you are gonna go theu a big mud hole or fight your way into a deep snow area etc. To get into 4 low you need to come to a full stop, shift to neutral, then switch to 4 low, then to drive.
Great video man! I am definitely going to test this out in the morning in the snow. I will leave another comment to let you know the results after a day or two.
Nice job with the camera work, my friend. Pointing out the track differences on the fly in a single take is tough - good job. Where was this trail? There are a lot of sandy trails like this in Northern Michigan.
In those kind of situations you find yourself in, would a manual transmission be better than automatic so you could kind of rev it up & let the clutch go to send more power or do you think that would just dig you straight into the mud? Seems like manual would be a nice option because if you want to go slow you can do that or if you need some extra oomph p0p the clutch haha.
Manuals are great but in technical situations they are harder to drive. Not impossible and very fun to use. But require alot of finess and foot work to control wheel spin when need more or less from a slow speed or stand still in the crap.
@@Jason-Samko Yeah they fit great. I’ve looked but am apprehensive because I want them to fit as l well like yours. Could you tell me which ones they are by chance? Thank you for replying to the first question either way. Sorry if I’m a p.i.t.a.
Ironic this video popped up in my feed, So in my scenario today what would have been best..I went over a patch of Ice and the truck started to lose control, I let off of acceleration and just let it coast..Would my truck have reacted different if I had traction control off and this LSD on?
Nope. Would of acted the same. Ice is ice and has no traction. If the truck slid that ment the whole back end was on ice. Nothing will prevent sliding on ice.
I appreciate you posting this video. I have a 3.5 2wd SR and i live in Michigan. I'm mostly concerned about boat ramps and this button should help me on pulling the boat out at the softer surfaces at some ramps. I'll never leave Michigan unless it's February or March. Houghton Lake is a beautiful area, i was born in Cadillac and I spend a good bit of time fishing the many lakes up there.
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I’m learning how to use my 2023 Taco Off Road I got last week. Thanks!
Love that phrase! Im probably gonna steal it. Congrats on an amazing truck
Pfft "Ruts are for followers who never left the same path"-Me 1984,1986,1991, '09 traveler of the YODA,PRE/TACO and beyond....
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As most of your other viewers below indicated, you did a much better job than trying to understand the description listed in the operator's manual. Thank you.
Happy to help and glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate the comment. Makes all the hard work worth doing when I hear it's helpful.
I have a new 23 Tacoma pro and not even the dealer could explain that button as good as you. Thanks for this video.
Glad you enjoyed it and congrats on one of the best trucks ever made
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New Tacoma owner here, thanks for a great video with real world examples. I understand it much better now.
Glad you enjoyed the video.
Traction control completely off with 4wd on is incredibly useful in deep snow. I use it all the time on frozen lakes ice fishing. Traction control will get u stuck 100% of the time in this scenario as it cuts power to the wheels when they spin and eventually cuts engine power. Always turn off traction control completely in deep snow.
Agree 100%. Traction control has got me stuck in snow many times too
What about in icy roads?
@AlexEvoX leave traction control on when its icy is my opinion. Vehicles today have amazing safety and traction control to keep you from spinning out.
@@Jason-Samko agreed. Definitely keep it on on icey roads it will save your butt. Only in deep snow mudd or sand should u turn it off.
@@wiscowalleye7954 100% agree
This video was awesome and super helpful! I’ve read threads online on Tacoma sites about the differences of Trac off, auto lsd, VSC etc and they are always a little confusing without real world examples to go with them. Thanks for making a video like this! These trucks are awesome.
Glad you enjoyed it! I agree 100% love this truck
Never had to engage it yet, but nice to know it's there.
As a new Tacoma owner I’ve been really struggling to figure out what all the buttons REALLY do, not just what the manual says. This was awesome and you’ve got a new sub!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I bought a new Tacoma and while I haven't had much time to play with it, the dealer certainly doesn't go into depth on all the little tricks etc. Thank you very much for explaining all of this, super helpful!!
Glad you enjoyed it
This is why I believe a Trd Sport is just as capable at off roading as a trd off road in 95% of scenarios. And an auto lsd is 2nd best to a rear locker and is why I chose the trd sport for the mild off roading I tend to to here and there. I also like the painted fender arches and number insert that the trd sport has compared to the trd off road. 95% of my time is on pavement but the other 5% I do go off road The trd sport does almost as good from the factory in most cases that the trd off road does. Thanks for demonstrating the auto lsd in this video!
And the sport has a very good road tuned suspension vs the soft off road suspension on the off road. You bough the perfect truck for your needs for sure!
A a sport owner; I can say Hands down , the OR can get you stuck farther into the wild but hey, because you spent extra ; you can afford the tow bill
Yup that's agree thr TRD sport is a great model unless you're a hard core off roader.
my sport loves being offroad
Excellent video. I’m embarrassed to say I’ve owned my Tacoma for over 4 years and never knew what that button did. .
Glad you enjoyed it
I bought my first Toyota Tacoma last year. I pulled into the dealership with my car limping into the dealership. The salesman said he would give me 2500 for it the day before before he seen the car in person. But all they had was a brand new SR5 and a TRD off-road with 6k miles on it both 2 wheel drive. I ended up getting the TRD for 36k out the door. I was bummed out that I wasn’t able to get 4 wheel but live in Florida so figured I could deal with it. But my girl has accidentally hit that rear locker button near the sunroof twice now and when I put it in gear to go I realize what’s going on but I can’t figure out how to get it back off. I’ve went through the manual but everything I’ve tried doesn’t work. Do you have any advice on how to do it? Or any tips or tricks because both times I’ve had to have it towed into the dealership and they say it was off by the time they’ve been able to get to it! I’m sure it’s just error on my part but figured I could just hit the button back and it would turn off. I’ve tried to hard press it for 3 seconds in neutral and in drive and tried just hitting it quickly in both but wasn’t able to get it off both times? Any advice would help! And thanks on the heads up on the LSD I could use that at the beach
@whiskythrottle8421 on my 4x4 version you ha e to be in 4 low to work the locker. I know on the 2wd you can use the locker anytime. But I believe just hitting the button again will disengage it. But I don't know for sure as I don't own the 2wd.
@@Jason-Samko right on I appreciate it. Yeah the second time it happened I had the mechanic drive it with me in it to show me what to do. But even he was having trouble to get it to turn off once the truck was put in D or reverse he said you have to drive it straight for a little bit then disengage it. But it took him a couple times before it worked and it was right after closing time so he was kind of in a hurry to get home. So I’m a little worried to hit it just to get it figured out because I’m worried it’s going to get stuck on again. To me something doesn’t make sense because you would think all you would have to do is hit the button again to disengage it. I don’t know but I appreciate the info you gave on this video because that will definitely help me on the beach and I live down a 3 mile dirt road and when we have hurricanes is the only time I’ve really needed a 4x4 but hopefully your trick will help! Happy thanksgiving brother
@whiskythrottle8421 with the locker in the 4x4 model we have to turn the wheel back and forth a little to get the locker to engage or disengage. So.e times even have to go I to reverse a bit then back I to drive to get it to engage or disengage. In other words, toyota lockers are very sticky and finicky.
I’ve owned my 2wd Tacoma for 6 years & learned that this button is PERFECT for gravel roads but never realized until now I probably could have saved myself a lot of trouble in the snow/mud if I used it for those situations too!
Thank you!
Glad ypu enjoyed it
I really appreciated this video. I’ve had a Taco for about the years but never used that switch. Much better explanation than the owners manual.
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You can use it to back into a trailer on uneven ground, when you are turning your front wheels and have a lot of scrub angle. It just adds control. You could use 4l but you have to have the front involved and that can be a problem. There's a lot of uses for these systems, if you have a long relationship with Toyota trucks, you can see how Toyota has kept the same capabilities but with a different feature set. And that's why there's long time Toyot afans. I'd personally rip all that crap out and add manual hubs lol.
The auto lsd uses the abs system to to apply micro braking (essentially) to keep the low traction wheel from spinning.thats what that "buzzing" sound is. Its the ABS system applying and releasing the brakes super fast. That same thing happens when you slam on your brakes. The pulsing is the ABS system. In old school 4wd's, you could (and still can) achieve the same thing by left foot braking. It's lightly holding the brake with your left foot and using controlled throttle with the right. The people at the AM general driving school (they made the military HMMWV's) they call it "brake modulation."
you are 100% correct. The algorithms today are much more precise and capable than the old way of 2 foot driving thru obstacles. But is sure is a good method to know still.
brake modulation on military humvee actually engages the torsen differentials. which makes the vehicle fully locked
@Kill4Time255 Ford uses torsen front lockers on thier trucks. They work very well. Not quite the same as a true electronic or air locker but very darn close and you never have to fight with it. Torsen makes a great system.
@Kill4Time255 sure about that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I never heard of that. Torsen diffs work by the way the gear train interfaces such that slipping causes the interlocking spur and worm gears to lock when it "senses" differential torque (TORque SENsing). Brake modulation just helps eliminate the free spinning wheel that has lost traction. I can't remember if there was a locked differential setting on the 4wd gear shift. I do know that some (maybe all) humvees have portal axles, and that gear reduction was another factor in the really good off-road traction they could get. Another feature, kind of unrelated, was that the disc brakes were mounted inboard near the center line on the truck. That's why we were told not to use the brakes to stop a free wheel from spinning. You would snap a half-shaft under the rotational weight of the spinning tire. Of course, Joe has to test it, so one dude broke a CV axle, thinking the instructor was making it up.
Yup I own a 2.7 2WD (2020 Taco) and went to the beach with super soft sand last year. I hit that button and was able to make it through all the beach! I did get completely stuck once and was dead stopped, I gunned the throttle and still was able to get out!! Dont under estimate the 2WD on these tacomas!
The fact that I run wide Toyo AT3s probably helped too.
Another thing I will do is air down next time. I was not aired down in this instance.
Yep on the beach airing down is mandatory and the best way to prevent getting stuck
How much should you air down?@@Jason-Samko
@gerardoalonso4001 would not go below 15 psi so you don't pop the bead. I would air down to 18 or 20 psi.
I appreciate that brother @SamkoWorkShop
Dude, thank you so much. I have been scouring the Internet trying to find what the hell that button was useful for.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice job. You helped me understand this feature a whole lot better than the manual or other posts covering the same feature. I've been using this while driving on snow covered paved roads verses using 4 wheel. Truck handles well. I'll give it a go on snow covered dirt roads today and see how it does. Again, good posting and Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed the video. This auto lsd feature is fantastic
Thanks for the tutorial ! The wife and I recently bought a used 2016 Sequoia and are learning the ends and outs (first Toyota) of all modes. I appreciate the real life-time applications. I am now a new subscriber !
Congratulations on the new sequoia!
I just bought a 2023 TRD OFF ROAD .. Getting familiar with its capabilities. You’re very helpful.
You are gonna love it. Such a great truck
In normal mode with traction control on, the system applies micro brakes when wheel spin is detected. It will also try to keep the wheels from over spinning. This helps prevent spinouts on wet and/or icy roads. Especially on ice, when the slippery surface will cause rapid wheel spin as all friction is lost as power is applied. Why we were taught to "lift" the peddle when you hit ice to maintain tire to ice contact, maximizing traction.
In LSD mode, the wheel spin limiter is disabled but the system still tries to keep both wheels spinning at the same speed. This mimics a mechanical LSD, or as others have commented positraction (which is a brand name?). And yes, riding the brake, or better yet the parking brake, can help get you out of a hole for the same reason.
In loose sand or snow you sometimes need faster wheel spin to maintain speed or accelerate. Think of a boat moving through water with a propeller spinning at the back. You are plowing through soft stuff.
Yep you want traction control for icy roads. But in the mud sand and deep snow you want power and traction at as most wheels as possible
Thanks for this info. Have owned a Tacoma 10 years and never used this button because I did not understand it from the manual. I always use 4x4 instead.
Glad it was a helpful video for ya
I use my all the times on wet roads, driving to work on inclines. I love it.
Sure is a handy feature
Thanks for posting this comment. I was wondering about that. Good to know!
this helped me greatly high speed on the beach changing lanes. thanks for the 3 second one. I think the hold 3 seconds turns off stability control which is what I needed.
your video is a real help to me a new tacoma 4x4 owner just learning the toys of the trade.thanks for a awesome lesson of the buttons.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video. Thanks. I drive a 2WD Sport, so this feature is very important to me. I'm not confused about those buttons and the icons anymore.
Glad it helped!
It helps a lot! And when you on sandy beaches be sure to air down to 15-25 PSI
I'm a believer! Climbed a hill this year with my sport that looked pretty daunting.
Awesome!
Thanks for a great video. Leased my Tacoma ten months ago. The dealership handed me the keys after signing. No explanation of features. Here’s proof you can teach an old dog new tricks.
@@hillwilliam glad you enjoyed the video
That's awesome I just got a 2021 work truck two-wheel drive and this system comes standard! It doesn't snow much in New York anymore but it should come in handy from time to time
Thanks for explaining. On an icy road, you have to have it ON (orange lights off), otherwise your truck might spin right?
I would. Let traction control help you on the ice.
Is it best to pop the button while stopped vs moving?
Doesn't matter. Can do either
I just bought a 2023 SR5 . This was really informative. Question.. do you put it in Neutral then switch to 4 wheel drive. Then Drive? Can the Toyota Tacoma be moving slow when I switch to 4x4??
You can switch between 2wd and 4high while driving straight at speeds under 50 mph. To shift into 4 low you need to come to a stop, shift into neutral, then shift into 4 low, then into drive. In 4 low you should always be on loose ground and speeds under 20 mph.
@@Jason-Samko Thank you so much for the information!!!
I really appreciate this video. I often find that 4WD is too much for a light dirt parking lot or sharp corner mountain road. Your explanation of the LSD is that small gap in traction that I need without worrying about binding or excessive stopping to "clunk" it into gear.
Well said and great example of it's use
So to do burnouts I have to hold that button for 3 seconds?
Yep will trun off everything that fights you
super useful thanks! 6 years on still learning new things the 'taco can do.
Glad you enjoyed it
My old 4cyl 2wd loved that button 😂😂
It's the donut button😂
My understanding of it is the anti-lock braking system is applying brake to the spinning wheel forcing the open differential to transfer power to the opposite wheel. I did use it once and it worked but don't think it is a traditional limited slip. I think there is a warning in the manual not to use it at high RPM. The sound you hear in the video is the anti-lock system bumping the brake to the spinning wheel. Correct me if I am wrong.
You are correct. It's a computer controlled brake locking limited slip. This truck does have a true rear locker too. But toyota makes it a pain to use the rear locker as you have to be in 4 low and getting the rear locker to engage is often a pain in the butt. So this button is great when that extra traction is needed without all the fuss.
On my previous vehicles I disable traction control in snowy side roads so it continuously digs to get to the street underneath
Yep in deep snow I like it disabled so that I can control the throttle and not be cut off
I have a new to me 2019 Tundra. I'm going to make a cheat sheet for 3 separate conditions. 2wd, 4H and 4L. In 2wd, pushing the button 3 seconds turns off trac completely. The advantage is that trac when ON reduces engine power. Good for slippery highway conditions. When trac off happens the engine power reduction feature is cancelled, giving you more power to the wheels. It's confusing. You have to be aware of when ABS vs engine power reduction occurs.
And it's different when in 4H and 4L. Until this is second nature I'll need the cheat sheet.
Great idea with the cheat sheet!
YOU THE MAN !!!!
Real live world example.
22 Taco off/road
Glad you enjoyed it
Would this be useful to maintain control on patches of ice too?
In my opinion no. On slippery surfaces I think letting the computer controlled traction control is the best bet. Where this button shines is soft sand, mud, deeper snow etc. Things you need so power to get thru and don't want traction control cutting the power to the wheels while you are trying to muscle thru
I think with full traction control off it gives you full throttle helping you get up a dune for example.
Yep no abs fighting you
I use this button almost all the time in winter, and turn traction controll all the way off. Even when offroading for the most part.
Can you use it on the street at regular highway speeds?
Probably could but I don't see why you would. I'd also check the manual to see if there is a speed restriction. I know I've done 60 with mile on, but in the dirt
No one explained better! Amazing Video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m curious what the difference is between the touch of the button and holding the button. What does that change really give you?
Hopefully someone will chime in here and answer. I can't remember and I sold this truck a couple months ago so can't go check for you
is the same feature on the Gen2 Taco with 4wd ? it has a bacon button and it beep beep beep when the rear stability gives on the slick snowPack
I'm not sure about the gen 2. Try holding it like I do in the video and see what gauge lights kick in to tell you want it's doing. Love the gen 2 tacomas!
@@Jason-Samko its a 2o11 single cab 4wd automatic... Barcelona Red with black bumpers and flares. very sharp looking little truck you do not see out there everyday! it belongs to my mother but I have been driving it for the past 2 months (including a nasty midwest blizzard) while my '97 Gen1 Taco has been in a Yota specialty shop in Chicago getting its first new clutch at 341k miles and unfortunately had to also get a rebuilt manual transmission input shaft was roached (plus a bunch of other new steering and suspension parts on the old rig)
@@efil4kizum those gen 1s and gens 2 were built like tanks and last forever
@@Jason-Samko unless the salt-induced rust takes them!
All I could think is imagine someone watching him from a distance thinking to themselves, “gosh this must be this guys first time ever seeing dirt” 😂😂😂 great video and explanation tho. I think it’s a shame how common it is people have such a feature rich truck and never utilize any of it. I love using the auto lsd for this exact reason, a generally off road cruise where you need both wheels in the fight, but if I want to rip through trails quickly, and get the back end loose on turns, that’s when you first hold that button till it shows TRAC OFF. And of course 4 high works great if you quickly get into some shit and you don’t want to even risk getting stuck since you can just turn it on, on the go. Lastly, if you are hitting some trails on side of mountains with insane steep angles, 4 Low can do some pretty impressive stuff. I’ll put it in first gear as well with ect on and it can put in work on the steepest of hills
Very Very well said and great examples.
What’s the difference if I use this or put it into 4 wheel
4 high still has traction control on unless you use this to turn it off. Traction control is great on slippery roads. But when you get into sand, mud, or deep snow you need some power to get thru it and traction control kills the power as soon as a wheel starts to slip.
have you made a video about the rear locker? I have a 2wd 22' trd off road and I'm still learning what to do (especially since it's not 4wd) when I finally hit the trails for the first time. Thank you so much for this great explanation!!!!!
Yes. Made about 8 or 10 videos about lockers. If you search "locker" on my channel many will pop up
Thanks Jason, I never took the time to find out what that button did.
@@TommyIgoe-e6d glad you enjoyed it
I can see the Jeep guy sitting in the tree 100 yards away watching a Toyota struggle up the hill dying laughing. No clue you’re making a video in there 😂
🤣🤣 probably thinking I'm a rookie and don't even know how to put it in 4x4.
Jeep guys, that's a jeep thing
Great video, thank you for the detailed easy explanation
Very welcome and glad you enjoyed it
what about at a wet boat launch ramp? would hitting that button help? I imagine it would to give both rear wheels the ability to pull the boat up the wet ramp.
Yes but putting it in 4wd is always recommended on wet boat ramps and better as you will have traction on the front wheels that are on dry ground
Hi, where did you find your blind spot mirrors for your side mirrors? Thanks
Amazon. We're like 10 bucks
I’m at one year with my 4x4 TRD off road and everything where I live is paved. I knew this of course before I bought it . I do love the truck and love the videos in case I ever need to use them . Do you have other videos that demonstrate the other unique buttons on the Tacoma TRD 4x4.?
@robertjasso6673 i have some great videos in my toyota Playlist. Not sure if I have any other button vids there
Honestly, I'd like to get my default set at TRAC OFF. For the hunting that I do, those extra seconds matter and the auto LSD setting still has traction control on
There is alot of things I wish toyota would let us do. Like use the rear locker in 4 high, etc.
@SamkoWorkShop Maybe this button in 4 wheel high might allow a rear limited slip in that mode as well. 🤔
@RodneyGearheart wish it did. It doesn't. I actually made a video about that called "why wouldn't toyota give us this". Sad they didn't. But a fantastic question!
Yea but what tires you rolling on ?
32s... sorry if it popped us 35x11.50s. I thought you were asking about what I have on my gladiator. On the taco was 32s. Biggest I could fit stock
@@Jason-Samko may I ask what brand and full size?
@czar3030 on my channel search good year ultra terrain. Those are the tired and I show the exact size in that video. They were amazing tires. I don't own the truck anymore.
It increases the slippage before it engages the limited slip. It still engages it but let's you spin the weak side tire a little.
You are correct it relaxes traction control. But it also engages auto lsd.
Is this available for the tundra as well?
I would imagine but I never looked for it in the tundra. Hopefully someone with a tundra will chime in
Does the vehicle stabilization feature work if you’re pulling a trailer too? I’m looking at getting a pontoon boat and pulling with my 21 Tacoma with the tow package. Trailer and boat weigh about 2,800-2,900 pounds and no trailer brakes.
Yes it does. Works all the time unless you turn it off. I pulled a 3k enclosed trailer daily with my 22 tacoma and it did excellent. Will be cake walk easy pulling your boat.
Great video. Question, though. I thought I saw where the button should only be pushed when vehicle isn't moving. So, seeing a rough patch ahead you'd have to stop and engage? Or am I having a senior moment😂? Thanks
I do not believe that is the case with the button. You might be thinking of the rear locker button or 4x4 low nob. But i pushed this button going down the road many times
@@Jason-Samko Thanks!
I also wanted to see what it did after you held the button. Does it make any other difference?
Holding the button just turns off traction control and turns on lsd
Great vid. One question...Should that feature only be used in short, get-out-of-trouble situations, or can it also be engaged for longer runs in sand and/or snow?
Can be engaged for long runs I'm sand and snow without worry. I ha e driven many miles at a time with the lsd engaged
@@Jason-Samko calling it an LSD is wrong as the diff isn't doing anything. Yes toyota does it, but just because it is shorthand for their brake control system on the rear. You should check out the anytime locker kit from expirimental designs, will be much better than the "auto lsd"
@TheOtherPlayer you are 100% correct. Thats why I only buy trucks with a true locker. For what I do lsd won't keep me from walking home in the swamps.
Where did you make this video at?
northern michigan
Thanks for showing, i had no idea. I thought it was always on, the off button is misleading.
Glad you enjoyed it
I was wondering what that button did. I have that in my 4Runner
Glad you enjoyed the video
That's the same for ECS?
You mean esc. Electronic stability control.
What seat covers did you get?
Carhart universal seat cover. Love it. Actually the toughest and most comfortable seat cover I've ever owned. I did a full review on it if you check my tuck stuff play list or search seat cover on my channel
@@Jason-Samko Thank you! I've been looking at some on Amazon and trying to find the look I like.
Very good explanation. However, I prefer to just as easily hit that 4H button for much better situational response. Not to mention, the 4 wheal drive train needs to be exercised pretty frequently to keep the operation functioning smoothly.
Very true. But this button is a great bonus giving us lsd in 2wd
Looks like my neck of the woods in Northern Michigan! I'm new to Tacoma's and my old 4 wheel drive has none of this traction control stuff so I appreciate the tips on how to use it. Take care!
That is northern michigan. Loved it up there. lived there my whole life until a couple months ago when we moved to georgia.
Just purchased a 2023 Sport and this info was great . Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it and you will love your new truck
Thanks for this video! I have a 23 off road and last winter when I bought it there wasn’t any weather to speak of. I’ll know what to do this year if we get some snow… I’ve always hated having to engage 4wd on those “in between” road situations…
For deep snow spots it will help with the extra traction. Be careful using it on light snow covered places as turning on the lsd also turns off the traction control. Toyota has amazing traction control to keep you from slipping spinning and losing control. This is more valuable of a button for off road than it is for on road.
Thanks for the info. Never knew what that was for . Question when and were do you use those 2 buttons on the headliner above the rear view mirror?
I sold the truck and dont know witch buttons you are talking about I know the rear locker button is up there. What do the buttons say. I can answer it for you
can you use the auto limited slip traction control while in 4 wheel drive if you don't have OF locker?
you have to use the locker in 4 low. this limited slip button doesnt work in 4x4. I made a video about it not long after making this one. Was pretty bummed.
@@Jason-Samko Thank you for confirming, I'm getting the sport here soon so won't have the default rear Elocker. Any recommendations if I choose an aftermarket ARB air locker, ie front vs back and or size?
@aclsass never used after market locker on a toyota. Can't help there. But I know ow air lockers require an on board mounted compressor as well
I got a 2wd trd sport with all terrains and I’ve never gone through sand that deep nice knowing I might get through stuff like that if need be( also carry traction boards on the roof rack knowing ima need em)
That auto lsd button will literally double your traction on a 2wd. And traction boards are fantastic to have and work very well.
I love it when the “LSD” starts to kick in😂
😂😂
I’m still confused. If I’m on the freeway and there are occasional ice patches what setting should I use for that.
no settings. let the traction control that is always on work for you in that situation and keep your speed slow. this button is for snow, sand, mud, hills, etc where you need extra traction.
@@Jason-Samko
So no lites or symbols lit up on the dash? Thanks
@@at1970 correct
@@Jason-Samko
That’s so ez I might pull it off. Thanks again
Great video . Questions have a 2wd Tacoma bought it in Florida and now moved to Pittsburgh, which, if you don't know anything about Pittsburgh is extremely hilly, and now that is snowing kind of difficult to drive do you suggest on trading it for a four-wheel-drive?
4 wheel drive definitely helps in the snow and in the slippery conditions. But I bet switching to snow tires for thr winter will make a huge difference. You can buy cheap steel wheels on amazon for very cheap and install snow tires on them. Easy to switch in the winter.
GREAT DEMONSTRATION...TY for your time.
Glad you enjoyed it
Your neighbors are gonna love that
What’s your recommendation on wet roads/rainy days?
Leave it in auto lsd off. Let the traction control systems do the work for you
How fast you can go on this Mode
About 3 seconds
3rd time you fell back in, you had me rollin 😂
Damn hill kicked my butt
I'm pretty sure when the auto LSD light is on, auto LSD is deactivated. All it does is apply the brakes to the wheel that is spinning to send power to the opposite wheel.
It's the opposite pf what your saying as shown in the video when I climb the hill with it and without it. You can see how it works in the tracks.
If this location is near your house, go try again, but hold the button down to get TRAC OFF, just like you said at beginning, and gun it up the hill. You did not try that option. The computer was stopping you. You will answer y our own question posed at 01:43
Don't live there anymore moved to Georgia and also sold that truck already
So if I’m driving down well maintained dirt roads…can o use just 2h or should I turn something off or use 4h?
if you are on loose surfaces you can use 4hi. dirt roads are grat places to use 4hi and its good to use it every month to keep things working smoothly.
why all the wheel hop my old 2002 wouldn't do that
In the soft loose michigan sand all trucks do it. Because the tires try to climb up and then sink right back in repeatedly. If you look at the tracks when im done you can see it in the tracks.
can u keep it on , and use on pavement like on a wet wintery day? n did u have to be in park when u engaged 4wd?
I recommend leaving it off in slippery conditions as traction control today is very advanced and will help you. The engage 4high you don't need to be in park. To engage 4kow you have to stop and shift the transmission into neutral before going to 4low
@@Jason-Samko thnks boss, i was on a wet snowy rd last night i should have hit the button, as its default is on i think....
Amazing info! Brand new owner of a 23 and first winter in mountains. If I understand correctly (and sorry for silly question) when you engage 4H this would auto disengage? Or I’d have to turn it off yo switch into 4H when terrain changes? Many thanks! 😊
Congrats on the new truck! In the sand or deep snow or mud turn the traction control off so that it let's you get some wheel spin if you need it to power thru. On snowy roads or icy roads leave traction control on so that the system can help keep you from spinning or looseing control on the road. Traction control still works in 4 high. But when you shift into 4 low it turns off. With you being in the mtns you will most use 2wd on dry roads and 4 high when conditions get bad with snow or ice. You can shift from 2wd to 4high while you are driving as long as your speed is under 50 mph. So if you are ay low evaluation and dry 2wd as you drive higher and start to get to icy or snowy roads switch into 4 high, then when back down low and dry roads switch back to 2wd. Again that can all be done while driving 50 and under. 4 low is for slow moving big obstacle driving and is ment to only be used under 20mph. You will only use 4 low if you are gonna go theu a big mud hole or fight your way into a deep snow area etc. To get into 4 low you need to come to a full stop, shift to neutral, then switch to 4 low, then to drive.
Great video man! I am definitely going to test this out in the morning in the snow. I will leave another comment to let you know the results after a day or two.
You will be very happy with the results
Nice job with the camera work, my friend. Pointing out the track differences on the fly in a single take is tough - good job. Where was this trail? There are a lot of sandy trails like this in Northern Michigan.
That was off the powerlines off fletcher rd west of grayling mi
In those kind of situations you find yourself in, would a manual transmission be better than automatic so you could kind of rev it up & let the clutch go to send more power or do you think that would just dig you straight into the mud? Seems like manual would be a nice option because if you want to go slow you can do that or if you need some extra oomph p0p the clutch haha.
Manuals are great but in technical situations they are harder to drive. Not impossible and very fun to use. But require alot of finess and foot work to control wheel spin when need more or less from a slow speed or stand still in the crap.
@@Jason-Samko I've owned manual all my life but new challenge is driving manual off-road, thx for the reply Jason!
@honda116969 yep a manual it technical situations is tough. But very rewarding when you can do it. Frustrating as hell while learning.
Great video. Thanks!
Question. Are those side mirrors the spotter mirrors?
These are just stick on blind spot mirrors I got from Amazon for 10 bucks. They work really well.
@@Jason-Samko Yeah they fit great. I’ve looked but am apprehensive because I want them to fit as l well like yours. Could you tell me which ones they are by chance? Thank you for replying to the first question either way. Sorry if I’m a p.i.t.a.
@@mastrsk8 www.amazon.com/dp/B08C2CMLQY/ref=dp_iou_view_item?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thank you so much for this video. Very helpful
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video. Wish off road reviewers use this more often.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very informative! Have a prerunner and this is geat to know. Appreciate it
Yep on a pre runner without 4 wheel drive thos button technically doubles your traction
Ive got a posi rear and didn't even know it?
Yeo at the flick of a button and on demand
I found that slow speed through sand is only possible with traction control all the way off.
Yep in sand, mud and deep snow I want traction control off
Ironic this video popped up in my feed, So in my scenario today what would have been best..I went over a patch of Ice and the truck started to lose control, I let off of acceleration and just let it coast..Would my truck have reacted different if I had traction control off and this LSD on?
Nope. Would of acted the same. Ice is ice and has no traction. If the truck slid that ment the whole back end was on ice. Nothing will prevent sliding on ice.
I appreciate you posting this video. I have a 3.5 2wd SR and i live in Michigan. I'm mostly concerned about boat ramps and this button should help me on pulling the boat out at the softer surfaces at some ramps. I'll never leave Michigan unless it's February or March. Houghton Lake is a beautiful area, i was born in Cadillac and I spend a good bit of time fishing the many lakes up there.
That is a a perfect time to use that auto lsd! Excellent example
Thanks from a 2WD SR 👌🏾👌🏾
Very welcome
Thankyou........now I know what to do when I got that situation come up.
Glad you enjoyed it