I'm glad you agree that Abigail isn't the Wizard's daughter, it just seems like every bit of evidence that indicates towards it can so easily be dismissed as being a red herring. Jas has decent potential in my opinion and your theory does track well. I feel like it'd be between her or Caroline in my headcanon.
Caroline's always been my guess for the Wizard's daughter, which would explain her green hair (especially on someone that doesn't like her daughter's dyed hair) and why she was drawn to the Wizard's Tower (and why his granddaughter, Abigail, is drawn to it as well and why her hair stays purple for so long). Penny's always been my second guess (come on, we can all picture Pam as the Witch).
Emily can pull an awake farmer into her dream (it’s not like we don’t have nighttime cutscenes). She has a natural affinity with animals. She has a magical dance that creates floating alien heads and all sorts of strange things. Emily’s drawn to crystals and their magical effects which we know are real in Stardew Valley because weapon enchantments. Haley questions whether or not she’s even related to her sister. And not just because of Emily’s blue hair, she says they look nothing alike. To me this all adds up to Emily being the wizard’s kid.
Emily is connected to Stardrops (cosmic dream fruits), which makes her one of the most significant characters. Her dream and dance scenes have the same purplish tint as consuming a Stardrop. Her favorite movie is about Stardrops. Welwick, a fellow astrologer, pulls up a Stardrop on maximum luck days. The Valley itself is possibly even named after the Winter Star and Stardrops *("Stardew")* . Which ig explains Emily's intrinsic connection to all the magic around the place.
@@TheTopHatNerd-sz7dp Yep. She's connected to every magical force we've seen so far in SDV: - Winter Star (Stardrops, mermaids) - Forest Magic (Junimos, talking to plants and animals) - Crystal magic & enchanting - Yoba faith - Whatever Mr. Qi is on (extreme artistic ability, Prismatic Shards, Iridium)
i’ve always interpreted jas shane morris and sebastian’s hair as black just disguised as dark purple cause of the never use pitch black rule in art lol
Additionaly, I think a all of Abby's 'weirdness' stems from young Caroline reather then beeing magical or sth. From what we know, she was adventurous and kind of a free spirit before she settled down. The real tragedy is that Abby will always feel misunderstood by her parents. Meanwhile, Caroline always wants her daughter to be "normal," probably because she either forgets what it was like to be young or doesn’t want Abby to end up disappointed with life like she did
it didn't come up in the video but abigail also likes to hang out near the wizard's tower. i think that is sort of related to your point about caroline going there (limited activities in the valley) but also abigail's thirst for adventure. she's probably drawn to magic because she likes the idea of it, not because she has any relation to the wizard. great vid as always, sodor!
I think factoring in Pierre's former life as a boxer, it makes sense he'd be a little bored with domestic life. I'm guessing the reason he isn't a boxer present-day is that he had to quit due to some form of injury (possibly head related as he appears to have all his leg and arm functions and still can hit a good punch to Morris). I always took his "need for success" line to mean he had been undefeated before his injury as well. Pierre to me strikes me as someone who is extremely competitive, which first led him to sports... Then when that path in his life didn't pan out he took business classes to find a way to support himself and his family. His want to expand is probably less about the actual greed monetarily and more about him unfortunately being bored with being pretty much the main grocer in town and wanting to take on the big boys. The only reason he hates Joja coming into Pelican Town is because it's encroaching on his "Home base" and main source of income before he's stable enough to actually take part in that competition.
This is such great insight. I have a notebook of video ideas, and one of the ideas I have is to "defend" characters of common critiques, like my "In Defense of Haley..." video, and your comment makes me want to do an "In Defense of Pierre..." even sooner
@@sodorart Those sound very interesting! I think a series like that has a lot of merit in reminding people just how deeply characterized the townsfolk in stardew really are. I'm excited to see those whenever they come out.
I would want to point out something more interesting - when he talks about suspecting that he might have a daughter in the valley he adds "it's rare but it happens". Having it said like this it sounds as if he's talking about a phenomena and not simply having a baby with a woman he hooked up with. As if his magic sort of seeped into someone without his knowledge or any conscious actions on his part 😳 Personally, I think that the villager, who seems to have some magic and fits this profile is actually Emily 👍
@@patryhy1475 Really? Is that from a cut scene I've had too long ago so I don't remember it? I guess at some point you just lose track of some of the lore 😅
@@patryhy1475 Emily is a long-time member of the community, and confirms she's been living with her family her whole life. Besides, Pierre's family and Jas moved to the Valley as well.
@@dmin5782 Emily seems more viewed in a positive way thats the Stardew equivalent of what the general public thinks of Buddhists, 'pure' and 'wise'. Rather than what the general public thinks of alternative/gothic/occultist people, like Abagail
I have thought about Jas being the Wizard's daughter before but I also find it disturbing. If it is Jas then just how much magic has been used to keep her safe? Have memories been altered? If the Wizard is Jas's father then who is her mother? I must admit there are times when Jas acts a bit more grown up. She does have some peculiar behavior. Unlike Vincent, Jas doesn't always act like a happy normal child. Jas behaves like she has to be proper sometimes and she is not always carefree. Yes, Jas isn't always a happy normal carefree child. If it turns out that Jas is the Wizard's daughter I feel that answering all the questions will lead us down a dark deep rabbit hole. I wonder if Concerned Ape has the conversation to tell that story? Personally I feel like Emily is the Wizard's daughter.
To be fair Jas is often playing alone when Vincent isn't there(godfather is drunk & working, moves out if you marry him, Marnie is busy too) & going off inspecting her room she knows about Marnie's secret relationship(Grandpa doll under the couch or something in doll house) so of course she's a bit more mature because she has to care for herself. That being said you do make a point about some speculation
They also have the same face color almost, good theory Another random what-if I thought about was that if Caroline is the daughter of the witch somehow and the witch and wizard separated just before she was born
Oh wow, that's really interesting !! The witch could've left the wizard while she was pregnant and just never told him because they split, then had a daughter secretly. Wow!
@@sodorart Right, the thing that I get caught up on is that the wizard says he might have a daughter in town, like he has a suspicion his wife was pregnant but not sure
i deff think abigail is a red herring but i think it's caroline who is his real daughter. for me it makes more sense with the ages as i see the wizard as like an old man/grandpa age
Great video and interesting ideas. Nice how you took a look at a more famous theory that thanks to it being famous almost gets seen as canon. And yes Abigail works great as red herring. Seeing that her whole vibe and other likes are more described as alternative lifestyle pointing at her not being "normal" As for Jas who seems more like the usual child that likes playing with dolls and such. The hair fits but also that the ranch is sorta close by to the wizards tower. Yes we know he can teleport but maybe Jas moving there was not as much of a coincidence. The wizard pulling some magic strings so she wouldnt end up in the system after her parents died. Maybe he also placed some spells around the ranch or its close enough to his tower so that he can hide her magic energy from the witch while he may wait for said witch to cool down or talk it out.
Awesome insight! I also forgot to add that Jas likes to jump rope next to that big tree next to his tower, showing that she likes to be even closer to the tower
@@sodorart It could be a bit of "Hiding under ones nose". Like even if the Witch assumes the Wizard has a child she would not assume he would hide it basically in walking distance. Maybe its something subconcious that draws her to the tower. No active sensing of magic. Just a bit of "That place seems interesting.".
What about the ever ambiguous hairy hippie Emily? Hair color is in the ball park and she had a thing for magic rocks. She comes from a family that's rich and the parents are off gallivanting around the world while she and Haley stay in the valley. Haley fits the rich kid trope, Emily not so much. Ya never know.
@@thragtusk1490 I actually have a theory that she's a mermaid! I do think she has magical powers of some kind, but i do think her and Haley are sisters, since they do have a few things in common
@@sodorartThe mermaids and Alex’s music box are the only other things that are anything close to Emily’s magic dancing. It’s hard to know they’re diegetic or just to represent feelings. But fun theory.
@@fleacythesheepgirl They're likely diegetic, since Emily is super upfront about her love for dancing (she dances in aerobics classes and the Luau in front of everyone, after all). Her secret hobby has to be something different from normal dancing. Plus, her dream and dance scene has the exact same purplish tint as consuming a Stardrop, which Willy confirms are related to mermaids.
I definitely don't like the Abigail is wiz's daughter theory, and I'm glad you point out all of the flaws within it. I felt like it was really dumb given that Caroline flat out tells us Abi's natural hair color. This is a better theory, though wanted to share my thoughts here too. I always interpreted Jas' hair as black. In media, black hair is rarely ever black. It's usually a dark shade of green, blue, or purple. This is why, to me, the other characters with "purple" hair have black hair. With the Wizard, his hair is truly purple, not this dull dark purple (you mentioned Shane and Sebastian, who I always interpreted with black hair too). As for Jas' loved gifts ..... I imagine that Jas loves the Fairy box and the fairy rose because they're cute and magical. Not literal magical, but in the fairytale sense. Jas is a little girl, so be it real or fiction to her, she probably really likes things like such as princesses, fairies, unicorns, etc With the Wizard liking the fairy box, he sees the literal and real magic behind it. He doesn't like it simply because it's cute or falls under fairytale mechanics, but because of his interest in the very real magic of the world. As for the dolls, I think it was hit on the nail when you said she likes dolls. Whether she sees the magical properties within it or not is a mystery, but I don't think it's 100% intended. My theory would be that The wizard would find Jas to be suitable as his apprentice as he states, but that they have no relation to one another. Jas' parents are both dead, and we don't know why. That's fine. I think that the Wizard may have a different daughter in the valley or just not one at all. It's possible he thinks Abigail is his daughter simply because of the hair color, not realizing it's dyed. Or, he's simply mistaken altogether. While Wizard is a smart person within the world of magic, I feel like even he has some flaws in some ways.
Thanks for sharing your insight, great write up!! For the hair color thing, I thought the same thing too but a few people pointed out Morris' hair, which is a really dark blue, nearly black. I think that's ConcernedApe trying to portray black hair color. I'd love to ask ConcernedApe for a list of official hair colors for all the characters Interesting viewpoints on everything else, thanks for sharing !!
In regards to her gifts, I do think that it could be both that she likes them because she is a child and those are toys to her and also that she is subconsciously drawn to magical items. Between this the "dreams of fire" diologe and her jack in the box description I do think she has major "cursed child in a horror movie" vibe
Shane and the Wizard I can see supporting Jas in magic, but given that Marnie wouldn't let her dye her hair or drink coffee (though I understand not letting a kid around 6-8 drink coffee) I think she'd be against the magic thing.
Doesn't Jas have dialog about having a nightmare with fire? This has always led me to believe her parents actually are dead. I think sometimes the simplest explanation is most likely - Caroline was restless, had an affair with the wizard. She's only semi-truthful about this. and thus is probably not truthful about Abigail's hair, which she might have dyed to conceal Abigail's heritage. Abigail herself says she hasn't dyed her hair in a long time, meaning her hair is naturally purple. But great presentation. I enjoy your videos!
@@TheAngelbase thank you! Yeah there's a rare dialogue where Jas can randomly say "I had a nightmare the house was on fire". But if you examine her Jack-in-the-box in her room, the description says "Jack-in-the-box is sprawled out, his arms bent at grotesque angles. His hollow eyes peer coldly into the distance." Which is just super creepy and weird. Unsure if her parents died via house fire or car accident, maybe, and how that was caused, and if it wasn't really an accident
Going off Pierre wondering if Abigail is his & Caroline saying Pierre can get jealous I think he might just be slightly self-conscious/jealous that Abigail likely only inherited his hair color when it's not dyed.(I also have trouble with facial features sometimes so I dunno if she supposedly inherited anything else) This is an interesting video & I feel it makes more sense that Abigail is a red herring. A part of me wants to imagine the wizard might take Abigail on as an apprentice though since she's interested & he admits he wants to pass his knowledge on to someone before one day allowing himself to pass on should it happen. Given what you mentioned maybe also train Jas when it's time to deal with her having magic. It'd be really hilarious if Abigail's hair joke came from Jas one time mistakenly casting a spell that made her hair permanently dyed. Yeah she likely is too young to use magic but it'd still be funny if she once got a moment of being able to use magic early & did this before never doing anything else until the right time.
I'm not sure if Abigail is a red herring, since we don't really have anything that connects the other candidates to the Wizard. As in, Abby is the only one that has stated/implied connections, while Jas or Emily don't really have anything that ties them to Rasmodius. It's likely a kind of Occam's Razor here, I think. And Abigail is more of a fighter than a mage-scholar. Meanwhile, Emily would make a great apprentice, since she is open to learn and can already perform some complex magic like enchanting or dream magic *(Stardrop power)* . Plus, she has some relations to mermaids, and Rasmodius has expressed notable interest in magical sea beings.
Considering Abigail WILL join you in the mines and her dads boxing history, it makes sense Abby is a bit of a fighter, which is why I married her, I love a fighty woman.
I used to think Caroline was the wizards daughter. I think it would make sense but I don't know how old the wizard is. I always imagined he was older but maybe he's not so idk.
OHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO that make sense omg thank you for sharing the teory O M G 😂🩷💚💙 And it makes wizard a much better character at least for me. He seems like he would be a good father. I wish more more people will know your theory 😭😭
Tbh I kinda always wondered why Jas has purple hair. I’m also curious why Caroline has green hair, since she’s not a fan of Abigail dying her hair it’s most likely that Caroline isn’t doing the same, otherwise she’d be a hypocrite. So why does she just kinda randomly have green hair? Is it from drinking so much green tea? Lol
I still think its abby. She takes secret walks to the wizards tower, and for all we know Caroline's natural hair could be brown as well. I personally have a theory that the wizards ex wife cursed Caroline, and gave her green hair, because she was cheated on, and was mad at Caroline. Great vid tho!
@@bbpainter-main Jas is in the woods more than Abigail though, she jumps rope under the tree more often than Abigail walks to the woods. The traveling merchant also has green hair, almost the same shade as Caroline Thank you!!!
The one thing about the wizard daughter is I don't think he actually had to be involved in the 'making' process. I think he did something like a spell that had some sort of side effect. I'm sure Caroline wouldn't have cheated because of the dialogue but maybe just caught in the cross-fire of a spell. I like the Jas theory but the fairy is far fetch she probably just like the fact it has fairy in the name. Also the apprentice thing, I always hope it was kind of a scrap idea for us to be taught magic by the wizard but was replaced by the obelisk/return scepter because of gameplay issues (aka Concerned Ape couldn't find a way to naturally implement it in the game with a hotkey)
I doubt it's a scrapped idea, since 1.6 added another dialogue about the apprentice thing. "Every wizard needs an apprentice" or something along those lines. The one who'd fit the bill is Emily, since her use of magic is based on pure talent and intuition rather than trained. She'd be perfect for Rasmodius.
Why would anyone want to be friends with Pierre? /j In all seriousness, I love this theory video! It's really nice to see that someone agrees that Abby's isn't the wizard's daughter.
I dunno, Abigail eats crystals which is pretty weird and she does walk out and stare at the wizards tower once a week. I have another suggestion for Jas dad: Lewis. Jas have been at Marnie's at least since she was a toddler (there is a secret note photo to prove that), I think she is Lewis and Marnie's secret love child and she herself doesn't know the truth. Ask yourself: Would Lewis be so mean he hid something like that? I think he would considering how he keeps his relationship with Marnie secret and even screwing in a bush (yuck). We already know Marnie want to tell people but Lewis refuses so there is clearly going something on there. We do know Caroline did go to the wizard with berries often a year before Abigail was born, we know Abigail eat crystals (which is odd) and sleep with a amethyst under her pillow as well as she goes and stare at the wizard tower once a week but never dare to enter it. Meanwhile the evidence for Jas is basically hair colour and that she only knows her parents are dead or think so. But we also know that Marnie and Lewis had an affair going on for at least a while and we have a sweet picture with Marnie who does seem to treat toddler Jas as her kid. That isn't perfect evidence for her being Lewis kid but I think the evidence is still pointing towards Abigail. We also haven't heard anything at all about Jas mother, not a single hint and if we think we should have gotten someone unless the mother was someone in town. I guess the wizard could have had an affair with Marnie before Lewis but I don't think that is the case. . I don't think hair colour really is a super help her, If it does though, we do have a dead woman buried in the cemetery with possible blue hair: Mona, Shane's mother and Marnie's sister. While Shane's hair could come from his dad, it is just as likely that it is from his mum, so Marnie can have regressive genes for blue hair. Mona could also possibly be Jas Mom but I don't see why they would keep that a secret. So I don't think your evidence is compelling enough for me. Jas being Lewis secret daughter would also be a pretty interesting story. We can't rule either of them out completely and we do have a third possible candidate too: Caroline. Maybe the reason for Caroline to visit the wizard waas because he is her dad? That would pain Pierre in a very bad light since forbidding someone to see their dad out of jealousy is rather low but I wouldn't think it would be totally out of character. I guess Emily is also possible. Blue hair, weird new age magic.. If the witch is the mom, she is a possible candidate. But I think the majority of the evidence points towards Abigail still. Jas being Lewis and Marnie's kid is just my own personal theory I never heard anyone mentioning but you have to admit, there is some sense to it. Wouldn't it be a bit too much of a coincidence that Marnie have 2 dead female relatives with kids she takes care of?
Exactly! I think the next vid should be on the theory that Linus is Pam's ex who left her and penny because he felt trapped. (It could mean that he's trapped within capitalism) I'm unsure if Penny and Pam recognize him with his white beard and long hair.
I Kind of Like this theory better, bc there is a monologe with Abigail where she asks with colour should she die her hair, meaning that she could have just dyed her hair in Purple. Also, i would argue to everyone who suports the Abigail, Wizzard theory after this video, that Abigails hair is a sligly lighter Purple colour, than the wizzards hair. He Hase a darker Purple hair, just Like Jas
well if it was jas then when caroline would go to the wizard's tower dont you think she would mention the witch? if the witch only left after his daughter was born or atleast after he cheated and considering we know caroline was in the valley before jas was born i dont think jas is the daughter i do think someone like emily (who is inherently magical in her events) is much more likely also making a void egg isnt the witch's only effect she can also turn all your slimes into black slimes
@@daryncollins7640 the black slimes are also not a big deal Jas also hangs around the wizard's tower, so does Leah, and neither mention the wizard either
@@sodorart tl;dr true the not mentioning thing is kind of a null point and i think that both jas and emily are likely oh i wasnt saying black slimes was like a super big deal i was just pointing it out as something else it can do not just void eggs. also now that you mention it, yeah her not mentioning the witch is kinda null when almost nobody else does and this can easily be explained by things like the wizard/witch not showing up for some of them and only showing up for you when he specifically reached out to you so yeah your right jas is pretty likely just something about the dialogue gave a longer ago vibe to me for some reason but hey who knows i still think its probably emily but its also probably jas too (sorry for rambling lol)
Too many people get hung up on the hair color in my opinion. Also, who knows how old the wizzard really is and also if he always lived outside Pelican Town. Maybe he's Penny's dad or heck what about Caroline? Green hair? Forest Magic?
I was thinking about Caroline being the wizard’s daughter too! Wizards tend to be older than they appear,so we shouldn’t limit our selfs to just the younger people.
I think Sebastian is the wizard's kid because he doesn't explicitly say daughter and Robin never talks about her ex-husband. Sebastian also has purple hair and always chooses to be the wizard in his game event. I think the witch and wizard are probably much older than they look and could have split long ago before him and Robin met Robin must have gotten sick of all the magic and being harassed by the witch so she settled down with the complete opposite. A scientist. I don't think him and Robin got married and she probably never told him she was pregnant
@@ZacharyAaronHere he explicitly states "You mustn't tell anyone... but I have reason to believe that one of the locals is actually my daughter... I could be mistaken... it's rare, but it does happen."
I think the purple junimo is the wizard's secret daughter. Don't tell my wife.
This stays between me and you!!
I'm glad you agree that Abigail isn't the Wizard's daughter, it just seems like every bit of evidence that indicates towards it can so easily be dismissed as being a red herring. Jas has decent potential in my opinion and your theory does track well. I feel like it'd be between her or Caroline in my headcanon.
@@GeorgiaLambkin Caroline being the wizard's daughter is an excellent theory!! Love that
Caroline's always been my guess for the Wizard's daughter, which would explain her green hair (especially on someone that doesn't like her daughter's dyed hair) and why she was drawn to the Wizard's Tower (and why his granddaughter, Abigail, is drawn to it as well and why her hair stays purple for so long). Penny's always been my second guess (come on, we can all picture Pam as the Witch).
@@gaylesmith8187plus we never see the witch in person so…
@@victory8928 yes we do, she's a random nightly event.
But what about Jas' parents being Shane's best friends? 👀
Emily can pull an awake farmer into her dream (it’s not like we don’t have nighttime cutscenes).
She has a natural affinity with animals.
She has a magical dance that creates floating alien heads and all sorts of strange things.
Emily’s drawn to crystals and their magical effects which we know are real in Stardew Valley because weapon enchantments.
Haley questions whether or not she’s even related to her sister. And not just because of Emily’s blue hair, she says they look nothing alike.
To me this all adds up to Emily being the wizard’s kid.
I have a theory that Emily is magical, possibly even a mermaid, because of her closeness with the water/ocean!
Emily is connected to Stardrops (cosmic dream fruits), which makes her one of the most significant characters.
Her dream and dance scenes have the same purplish tint as consuming a Stardrop. Her favorite movie is about Stardrops. Welwick, a fellow astrologer, pulls up a Stardrop on maximum luck days.
The Valley itself is possibly even named after the Winter Star and Stardrops *("Stardew")* . Which ig explains Emily's intrinsic connection to all the magic around the place.
Emily is the physical embodyment of magic in general
@@TheTopHatNerd-sz7dp Yep. She's connected to every magical force we've seen so far in SDV:
- Winter Star (Stardrops, mermaids)
- Forest Magic (Junimos, talking to plants and animals)
- Crystal magic & enchanting
- Yoba faith
- Whatever Mr. Qi is on (extreme artistic ability, Prismatic Shards, Iridium)
@@dmin5782 maybe she’s like a godess reincarnted as a “human” for her own protection. Kinda like that zorldo game that everyone likes
i’ve always interpreted jas shane morris and sebastian’s hair as black just disguised as dark purple cause of the never use pitch black rule in art lol
@@kujo40536 Morris has black hair though! I think the color is technically a very dark blue though
i only found out about this rule when i made the trousers of my sdv character completely black and it looked like a censor bar in the inventory
@@sodorartit’s a common practice in art to never use black unless completely needed
@@yes-sb9jl I have "art" in my name and I'm a full time pixel artist m'lord ☹ Morris has black hair
Additionaly, I think a all of Abby's 'weirdness' stems from young Caroline reather then beeing magical or sth. From what we know, she was adventurous and kind of a free spirit before she settled down. The real tragedy is that Abby will always feel misunderstood by her parents. Meanwhile, Caroline always wants her daughter to be "normal," probably because she either forgets what it was like to be young or doesn’t want Abby to end up disappointed with life like she did
Exactly, the same if not more with Pierre and his ambitions but I hate him for the wensdays thing so im not giving him any good will
it didn't come up in the video but abigail also likes to hang out near the wizard's tower. i think that is sort of related to your point about caroline going there (limited activities in the valley) but also abigail's thirst for adventure. she's probably drawn to magic because she likes the idea of it, not because she has any relation to the wizard.
great vid as always, sodor!
And Jas also hangs near the tower, when she jumps rope at the tree!! That tower is a popular spot for many LOL thank you!!
@@sodorart it might not be as weird for Jas to hang out there though since she doesn't exactly live that far away
I think factoring in Pierre's former life as a boxer, it makes sense he'd be a little bored with domestic life. I'm guessing the reason he isn't a boxer present-day is that he had to quit due to some form of injury (possibly head related as he appears to have all his leg and arm functions and still can hit a good punch to Morris).
I always took his "need for success" line to mean he had been undefeated before his injury as well. Pierre to me strikes me as someone who is extremely competitive, which first led him to sports... Then when that path in his life didn't pan out he took business classes to find a way to support himself and his family. His want to expand is probably less about the actual greed monetarily and more about him unfortunately being bored with being pretty much the main grocer in town and wanting to take on the big boys. The only reason he hates Joja coming into Pelican Town is because it's encroaching on his "Home base" and main source of income before he's stable enough to actually take part in that competition.
This is such great insight. I have a notebook of video ideas, and one of the ideas I have is to "defend" characters of common critiques, like my "In Defense of Haley..." video, and your comment makes me want to do an "In Defense of Pierre..." even sooner
@@sodorart Those sound very interesting! I think a series like that has a lot of merit in reminding people just how deeply characterized the townsfolk in stardew really are. I'm excited to see those whenever they come out.
I knew it- krobus and the wizard are lovers. And im their child.
@@Legendary_dragoon34 Please dont spoil the video!!! ❗❗❗❗🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I would want to point out something more interesting - when he talks about suspecting that he might have a daughter in the valley he adds "it's rare but it happens". Having it said like this it sounds as if he's talking about a phenomena and not simply having a baby with a woman he hooked up with. As if his magic sort of seeped into someone without his knowledge or any conscious actions on his part 😳
Personally, I think that the villager, who seems to have some magic and fits this profile is actually Emily 👍
Yes exactly! The way his ex-wife curses eggs, he could have accidentally "cursed" an already born baby. And Emily would make the most sense to me too.
@@Silber-KaninchenProblem is, Emily and Haley i think weren't born in Valley, but moved there
@@patryhy1475 Really? Is that from a cut scene I've had too long ago so I don't remember it? I guess at some point you just lose track of some of the lore 😅
@@patryhy1475 Emily is a long-time member of the community, and confirms she's been living with her family her whole life.
Besides, Pierre's family and Jas moved to the Valley as well.
@@dmin5782 Ok then maybe I am mistaken indeed, but I kinda remember Haley saying she used to live in city.
I've always questioned why Caroline disapproved of Abigail dying her hair when it seems like Caroline's hair is dyed.
Plus, she complains about Abigail's interest in the occult and mysticism, even though Caroline literally hangs out with Emily.
Well, I myself have done/ do things I'd be strongly against my children doing...... I understand Caroline.
@@playmogirl That doesn't really explain why Caroline is good friends with Emily, THE mystic mermaid woman herself.
@@dmin5782 Emily seems more viewed in a positive way thats the Stardew equivalent of what the general public thinks of Buddhists, 'pure' and 'wise'. Rather than what the general public thinks of alternative/gothic/occultist people, like Abagail
Because Caroline is a hypocritical little bad person who thinks only she is ever in the right
I have thought about Jas being the Wizard's daughter before but I also find it disturbing. If it is Jas then just how much magic has been used to keep her safe? Have memories been altered? If the Wizard is Jas's father then who is her mother? I must admit there are times when Jas acts a bit more grown up. She does have some peculiar behavior. Unlike Vincent, Jas doesn't always act like a happy normal child. Jas behaves like she has to be proper sometimes and she is not always carefree. Yes, Jas isn't always a happy normal carefree child. If it turns out that Jas is the Wizard's daughter I feel that answering all the questions will lead us down a dark deep rabbit hole. I wonder if Concerned Ape has the conversation to tell that story?
Personally I feel like Emily is the Wizard's daughter.
To be fair Jas is often playing alone when Vincent isn't there(godfather is drunk & working, moves out if you marry him, Marnie is busy too) & going off inspecting her room she knows about Marnie's secret relationship(Grandpa doll under the couch or something in doll house) so of course she's a bit more mature because she has to care for herself.
That being said you do make a point about some speculation
They also have the same face color almost, good theory
Another random what-if I thought about was that if Caroline is the daughter of the witch somehow and the witch and wizard separated just before she was born
Oh wow, that's really interesting !! The witch could've left the wizard while she was pregnant and just never told him because they split, then had a daughter secretly. Wow!
@@sodorart Right, the thing that I get caught up on is that the wizard says he might have a daughter in town, like he has a suspicion his wife was pregnant but not sure
i deff think abigail is a red herring but i think it's caroline who is his real daughter. for me it makes more sense with the ages as i see the wizard as like an old man/grandpa age
Great video and interesting ideas. Nice how you took a look at a more famous theory that thanks to it being famous almost gets seen as canon. And yes Abigail works great as red herring. Seeing that her whole vibe and other likes are more described as alternative lifestyle pointing at her not being "normal"
As for Jas who seems more like the usual child that likes playing with dolls and such. The hair fits but also that the ranch is sorta close by to the wizards tower. Yes we know he can teleport but maybe Jas moving there was not as much of a coincidence. The wizard pulling some magic strings so she wouldnt end up in the system after her parents died. Maybe he also placed some spells around the ranch or its close enough to his tower so that he can hide her magic energy from the witch while he may wait for said witch to cool down or talk it out.
Awesome insight! I also forgot to add that Jas likes to jump rope next to that big tree next to his tower, showing that she likes to be even closer to the tower
@@sodorart It could be a bit of "Hiding under ones nose". Like even if the Witch assumes the Wizard has a child she would not assume he would hide it basically in walking distance. Maybe its something subconcious that draws her to the tower. No active sensing of magic. Just a bit of "That place seems interesting.".
What about the ever ambiguous hairy hippie Emily? Hair color is in the ball park and she had a thing for magic rocks. She comes from a family that's rich and the parents are off gallivanting around the world while she and Haley stay in the valley. Haley fits the rich kid trope, Emily not so much. Ya never know.
@@thragtusk1490 I actually have a theory that she's a mermaid! I do think she has magical powers of some kind, but i do think her and Haley are sisters, since they do have a few things in common
@@sodorartThe mermaids and Alex’s music box are the only other things that are anything close to Emily’s magic dancing.
It’s hard to know they’re diegetic or just to represent feelings. But fun theory.
@@fleacythesheepgirl They're likely diegetic, since Emily is super upfront about her love for dancing (she dances in aerobics classes and the Luau in front of everyone, after all). Her secret hobby has to be something different from normal dancing.
Plus, her dream and dance scene has the exact same purplish tint as consuming a Stardrop, which Willy confirms are related to mermaids.
One question was still not answered:
How can Abigail eat rocks?
She has pica
I definitely don't like the Abigail is wiz's daughter theory, and I'm glad you point out all of the flaws within it. I felt like it was really dumb given that Caroline flat out tells us Abi's natural hair color.
This is a better theory, though wanted to share my thoughts here too.
I always interpreted Jas' hair as black. In media, black hair is rarely ever black. It's usually a dark shade of green, blue, or purple. This is why, to me, the other characters with "purple" hair have black hair. With the Wizard, his hair is truly purple, not this dull dark purple (you mentioned Shane and Sebastian, who I always interpreted with black hair too).
As for Jas' loved gifts .....
I imagine that Jas loves the Fairy box and the fairy rose because they're cute and magical. Not literal magical, but in the fairytale sense. Jas is a little girl, so be it real or fiction to her, she probably really likes things like such as princesses, fairies, unicorns, etc
With the Wizard liking the fairy box, he sees the literal and real magic behind it. He doesn't like it simply because it's cute or falls under fairytale mechanics, but because of his interest in the very real magic of the world. As for the dolls, I think it was hit on the nail when you said she likes dolls. Whether she sees the magical properties within it or not is a mystery, but I don't think it's 100% intended.
My theory would be that The wizard would find Jas to be suitable as his apprentice as he states, but that they have no relation to one another. Jas' parents are both dead, and we don't know why. That's fine. I think that the Wizard may have a different daughter in the valley or just not one at all. It's possible he thinks Abigail is his daughter simply because of the hair color, not realizing it's dyed. Or, he's simply mistaken altogether. While Wizard is a smart person within the world of magic, I feel like even he has some flaws in some ways.
Thanks for sharing your insight, great write up!!
For the hair color thing, I thought the same thing too but a few people pointed out Morris' hair, which is a really dark blue, nearly black. I think that's ConcernedApe trying to portray black hair color. I'd love to ask ConcernedApe for a list of official hair colors for all the characters
Interesting viewpoints on everything else, thanks for sharing !!
In regards to her gifts, I do think that it could be both that she likes them because she is a child and those are toys to her and also that she is subconsciously drawn to magical items. Between this the "dreams of fire" diologe and her jack in the box description I do think she has major "cursed child in a horror movie" vibe
Shane and the Wizard I can see supporting Jas in magic, but given that Marnie wouldn't let her dye her hair or drink coffee (though I understand not letting a kid around 6-8 drink coffee) I think she'd be against the magic thing.
Doesn't Jas have dialog about having a nightmare with fire? This has always led me to believe her parents actually are dead. I think sometimes the simplest explanation is most likely - Caroline was restless, had an affair with the wizard. She's only semi-truthful about this. and thus is probably not truthful about Abigail's hair, which she might have dyed to conceal Abigail's heritage. Abigail herself says she hasn't dyed her hair in a long time, meaning her hair is naturally purple. But great presentation. I enjoy your videos!
@@TheAngelbase thank you!
Yeah there's a rare dialogue where Jas can randomly say "I had a nightmare the house was on fire".
But if you examine her Jack-in-the-box in her room, the description says "Jack-in-the-box is sprawled out, his arms bent at grotesque angles. His hollow eyes peer coldly into the distance." Which is just super creepy and weird. Unsure if her parents died via house fire or car accident, maybe, and how that was caused, and if it wasn't really an accident
Going off Pierre wondering if Abigail is his & Caroline saying Pierre can get jealous I think he might just be slightly self-conscious/jealous that Abigail likely only inherited his hair color when it's not dyed.(I also have trouble with facial features sometimes so I dunno if she supposedly inherited anything else)
This is an interesting video & I feel it makes more sense that Abigail is a red herring. A part of me wants to imagine the wizard might take Abigail on as an apprentice though since she's interested & he admits he wants to pass his knowledge on to someone before one day allowing himself to pass on should it happen. Given what you mentioned maybe also train Jas when it's time to deal with her having magic.
It'd be really hilarious if Abigail's hair joke came from Jas one time mistakenly casting a spell that made her hair permanently dyed. Yeah she likely is too young to use magic but it'd still be funny if she once got a moment of being able to use magic early & did this before never doing anything else until the right time.
I'm not sure if Abigail is a red herring, since we don't really have anything that connects the other candidates to the Wizard. As in, Abby is the only one that has stated/implied connections, while Jas or Emily don't really have anything that ties them to Rasmodius. It's likely a kind of Occam's Razor here, I think.
And Abigail is more of a fighter than a mage-scholar. Meanwhile, Emily would make a great apprentice, since she is open to learn and can already perform some complex magic like enchanting or dream magic *(Stardrop power)* . Plus, she has some relations to mermaids, and Rasmodius has expressed notable interest in magical sea beings.
Considering Abigail WILL join you in the mines and her dads boxing history, it makes sense Abby is a bit of a fighter, which is why I married her, I love a fighty woman.
I used to think Caroline was the wizards daughter. I think it would make sense but I don't know how old the wizard is. I always imagined he was older but maybe he's not so idk.
This is my new head canon
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that make sense omg thank you for sharing the teory O M G 😂🩷💚💙
And it makes wizard a much better character at least for me. He seems like he would be a good father. I wish more more people will know your theory 😭😭
@@Hellixie we NEED to romance him in 1.7 ❗❗❗
Tbh I kinda always wondered why Jas has purple hair. I’m also curious why Caroline has green hair, since she’s not a fan of Abigail dying her hair it’s most likely that Caroline isn’t doing the same, otherwise she’d be a hypocrite. So why does she just kinda randomly have green hair? Is it from drinking so much green tea? Lol
I still think its abby. She takes secret walks to the wizards tower, and for all we know Caroline's natural hair could be brown as well. I personally have a theory that the wizards ex wife cursed Caroline, and gave her green hair, because she was cheated on, and was mad at Caroline. Great vid tho!
@@bbpainter-main Jas is in the woods more than Abigail though, she jumps rope under the tree more often than Abigail walks to the woods. The traveling merchant also has green hair, almost the same shade as Caroline
Thank you!!!
@@sodorart fair enough! 😁
Wizard is my favorite chacter
It could also be Penny. Pam and the Wizard got drunk one night. Zoop zoop.
@@D_To_The_J how could it be penny
Oh man, that means the witch killed Jas' parents.
It's a good theory I agree Abigail is not the wizard's daughter
The one thing about the wizard daughter is I don't think he actually had to be involved in the 'making' process. I think he did something like a spell that had some sort of side effect. I'm sure Caroline wouldn't have cheated because of the dialogue but maybe just caught in the cross-fire of a spell. I like the Jas theory but the fairy is far fetch she probably just like the fact it has fairy in the name. Also the apprentice thing, I always hope it was kind of a scrap idea for us to be taught magic by the wizard but was replaced by the obelisk/return scepter because of gameplay issues (aka Concerned Ape couldn't find a way to naturally implement it in the game with a hotkey)
I doubt it's a scrapped idea, since 1.6 added another dialogue about the apprentice thing. "Every wizard needs an apprentice" or something along those lines.
The one who'd fit the bill is Emily, since her use of magic is based on pure talent and intuition rather than trained. She'd be perfect for Rasmodius.
@@dmin5782 ah I wasn't aware of that addition!
@@HimenekoGames Tbf though, you can't really get it during normal gameplay, because the Wizard is inacessible during that festival.
Jaz and Wizard's skin tone looking very similar when you think about it 🤔
I thought the exact same thing, the resemblance!
Why would anyone want to be friends with Pierre? /j
In all seriousness, I love this theory video! It's really nice to see that someone agrees that Abby's isn't the wizard's daughter.
LOL tysm!!
I dunno, Abigail eats crystals which is pretty weird and she does walk out and stare at the wizards tower once a week.
I have another suggestion for Jas dad: Lewis. Jas have been at Marnie's at least since she was a toddler (there is a secret note photo to prove that), I think she is Lewis and Marnie's secret love child and she herself doesn't know the truth.
Ask yourself: Would Lewis be so mean he hid something like that? I think he would considering how he keeps his relationship with Marnie secret and even screwing in a bush (yuck).
We already know Marnie want to tell people but Lewis refuses so there is clearly going something on there.
We do know Caroline did go to the wizard with berries often a year before Abigail was born, we know Abigail eat crystals (which is odd) and sleep with a amethyst under her pillow as well as she goes and stare at the wizard tower once a week but never dare to enter it.
Meanwhile the evidence for Jas is basically hair colour and that she only knows her parents are dead or think so. But we also know that Marnie and Lewis had an affair going on for at least a while and we have a sweet picture with Marnie who does seem to treat toddler Jas as her kid. That isn't perfect evidence for her being Lewis kid but I think the evidence is still pointing towards
Abigail.
We also haven't heard anything at all about Jas mother, not a single hint and if we think we should have gotten someone unless the mother was someone in town. I guess the wizard could have had an affair with Marnie before Lewis but I don't think that is the case. .
I don't think hair colour really is a super help her, If it does though, we do have a dead woman buried in the cemetery with possible blue hair: Mona, Shane's mother and Marnie's sister. While Shane's hair could come from his dad, it is just as likely that it is from his mum, so Marnie can have regressive genes for blue hair. Mona could also possibly be Jas Mom but I don't see why they would keep that a secret.
So I don't think your evidence is compelling enough for me. Jas being Lewis secret daughter would also be a pretty interesting story. We can't rule either of them out completely and we do have a third possible candidate too: Caroline. Maybe the reason for Caroline to visit the wizard waas because he is her dad? That would pain Pierre in a very bad light since forbidding someone to see their dad out of jealousy is rather low but I wouldn't think it would be totally out of character.
I guess Emily is also possible. Blue hair, weird new age magic.. If the witch is the mom, she is a possible candidate.
But I think the majority of the evidence points towards Abigail still. Jas being Lewis and Marnie's kid is just my own personal theory I never heard anyone mentioning but you have to admit, there is some sense to it. Wouldn't it be a bit too much of a coincidence that Marnie have 2 dead female relatives with kids she takes care of?
didnt caroline said she like exploring the wizzard tower once? and maybe playing with the wizzard's tower 😅
Always thought Marnie was Jas's real mother, and it was her adoptive parents who died. Although what shane has to do with it, I'm not sure.
Exactly!
I think the next vid should be on the theory that Linus is Pam's ex who left her and penny because he felt trapped. (It could mean that he's trapped within capitalism)
I'm unsure if Penny and Pam recognize him with his white beard and long hair.
@@jibrael7740 ooooh awesome theory!
I love how you’ve been using the winter outfit portraits! It’s nice to see them in a new way!
@@Aubies333 I'm subliminally cooling everyone down since it's summer 💆♀️❄☃️
I Kind of Like this theory better, bc there is a monologe with Abigail where she asks with colour should she die her hair, meaning that she could have just dyed her hair in Purple. Also, i would argue to everyone who suports the Abigail, Wizzard theory after this video, that Abigails hair is a sligly lighter Purple colour, than the wizzards hair. He Hase a darker Purple hair, just Like Jas
You’ve convinced me
@@michaelkolman8313 1 down, 8 billion more to go
Im waitingg for something about the love triangle of lewis marnie and marlon
@@iluvrainsm "Why I think Marnie should dump Lewis and get with Marlon" will be a 2 hour cinematic masterpiece, just you wait
Your teory are really well made and logical. Can try to find Penny's father?
@@HollowKnight-cw6qj I wrote this down in my notes!
Thank you!
Also Jas and wizard have the same skin color
well if it was jas then when caroline would go to the wizard's tower dont you think she would mention the witch? if the witch only left after his daughter was born or atleast after he cheated and considering we know caroline was in the valley before jas was born i dont think jas is the daughter i do think someone like emily (who is inherently magical in her events) is much more likely
also making a void egg isnt the witch's only effect she can also turn all your slimes into black slimes
@@daryncollins7640 the black slimes are also not a big deal
Jas also hangs around the wizard's tower, so does Leah, and neither mention the wizard either
@@sodorart tl;dr true the not mentioning thing is kind of a null point and i think that both jas and emily are likely
oh i wasnt saying black slimes was like a super big deal i was just pointing it out as something else it can do not just void eggs.
also now that you mention it, yeah her not mentioning the witch is kinda null when almost nobody else does and this can easily be explained by things like the wizard/witch not showing up for some of them and only showing up for you when he specifically reached out to you
so yeah your right jas is pretty likely just something about the dialogue gave a longer ago vibe to me for some reason but hey who knows i still think its probably emily but its also probably jas too
(sorry for rambling lol)
I was just telling my gf that I thought Sebastian was his kid for no reason
I thought we all knew that the wizard had a daughter I mean she’s the only one with purple hair and I guess she eats crystals
I hope this theory reach Flash shifter that actually make Jas his Apprentice rather than that new character I dont care abour
@@ZenHorakti what new character?
@@sodorart it's from expanded mod
And jas and wizard are really alike
great vid 👍
@@Cosmos315i thank you so much!!
Too many people get hung up on the hair color in my opinion. Also, who knows how old the wizzard really is and also if he always lived outside Pelican Town.
Maybe he's Penny's dad or heck what about Caroline? Green hair? Forest Magic?
I was thinking about Caroline being the wizard’s daughter too! Wizards tend to be older than they appear,so we shouldn’t limit our selfs to just the younger people.
They even have the same skin color
Wait, jas said her parents died... wouldn't that mean her dad must have died aswell? just curious, I don't mean to sound rude :)
Jas doesn't know the wizard is her dad, so she thinks her mom's husband is her dad, and therefore, dead
@@sodorart ooooh! that makes sense now! thanks for answering 😅
@@MossyCat826 no problem!!
This video kinda spoiled shanes winter outfit for me, i wanted to see my husband in the game with it first but thats ok
Yippie 🎉
@@ArcadeDuskk YIPPPEEEEE!!!!
To be fair little girls likes fairies
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I think Sebastian is the wizard's kid because he doesn't explicitly say daughter and Robin never talks about her ex-husband. Sebastian also has purple hair and always chooses to be the wizard in his game event. I think the witch and wizard are probably much older than they look and could have split long ago before him and Robin met Robin must have gotten sick of all the magic and being harassed by the witch so she settled down with the complete opposite. A scientist. I don't think him and Robin got married and she probably never told him she was pregnant
@@ZacharyAaronHere he explicitly states "You mustn't tell anyone... but I have reason to believe that one of the locals is actually my daughter... I could be mistaken... it's rare, but it does happen."