World of Darkness: The Documentary Official Trailer
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- In 1991 a bold, brash, upstart role-playing game set out to explore the nature of evil by playing the monster. This is the inside story behind the World of Darkness.
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///Autumn-Winter 2017///
• Documentary showing on film festivals around the world.
• World premiere in Spain at the Sitges Film Festival: sitgesfilmfestival.com.
• Documentary showing in Italy at Lucca Comics & Games: www.luccacomic....
• Canadian premiere at the Whistler Festival: whistlerfilmfes...
• Documentary premiering in the UK: tickets.demand....
///First half of 2018///
• Broadcast channels.
• Vancouver screening: / 1810864352539442 .
///Second half of 2018///
• Video-on-demand and streaming services.
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I can't look at a modern vampire or werewolf film or TV show without trying to put the characters into clans and tribes. Even shows like The Dresden Files and Lost Girl have aspects from Mage and Changeling. :D
I always said if ever Vampires or Werewolves wanted to influence the modern world they would have written these games. 🤗
thought I was the only one who did that
Or, you know, they pull from the same source that you don't know about and you wrongly attribute that to the place you first read it.
Aki Kun please, even the Toreador were better than those sparklers (Mainly the Antitribu). The Twilight would be more akin to Toreador Thin-Bloods.
SAME!!
LOL, I do the same thing!
I've been a huge fan of Vampire the masquerade for over 10 years now and I was so excited when I found this
where can i see it now
This was my era - as in, I was on staff and I show up in the photos though not in the commentary. The documentary gets a few small things wrong (it was Chris McDonough, for example, who came up with the idea of vampire clans, not Mark Rein*Hagen), and a lot of people are left out of it (Rich Thomas, Josh Timbrook, Lisa Stevens and Andrew Greenberg, for starters), but the film is very good overall, and it's as true to its material as something describing a cloudy history of people and events almost 30 years ago could hope to be.
To be fair none of the cool kids played World of Darkness either. But we RP to be someone else and, 9 times out of 10, they're cool as shit.
To be fair, no true edge lord was ever one of the cool kids.
they did you just didn't hear about it
I was honestly
Oh man, i was 14 or 15 the first time i played "Vampire" with three pals in a smoky attic, then later i've played "VTM: Redemption" on pc, and now i'm 42 and i watch LA by night on youtube!
That's badass. WoD changed my life in so many ways.
as a millennial who randomly found VtM:B 2 years ago, this will be a interesting watch for sure.
Gerald back in 2002 i thought i missed the boat on the Vampire larp culture and table top... i was so wrong. Now i table top VTM once a week and Larp in a VTM cross chronicle org all over the U.S. probably 3/4 times a month.
trust me, there are still manyyyy organizations that run connected chronicles, indie larps and tabke top games out thete for you to play. you have not missed the boat :)
True but WoD does have no presence in the mainstream today, wonder who is to blame ;), so it is really just luck if you stumble into it.
Edit (am looking forward to them being active again, just to be clear)
Funny as the setting is about a hidden world.
You're not missing anything... most of it is cheesy, nerdy fat kids. Keep it classy, WoD.
Hey 👋 Kids, I Miss Larping,Already, so Good 👍 Things i Already Saw 👀 This. ❤😮😢😂😅😊🎉❤.
The game that got me into Tabletop RPG's. Thank you WorldofDarkness
What were the alternatives at the time, when the first Vampire games came out?
the documentary is not available in France :(
Back in the 90's, even the real Vampire Community played the LARP version. Then after the fiasco with Heather Wendorf and Rod Ferrell committed the heinous crime, many of us in New Orleans went underground. Now between 2006 after Katrina hit, we've established the community once more... and have infiltrated the WoD events that always went on at the Monteleone with their chaperone, Chaz from his Vampire Theater. These days, most of us just play the video games and only entertain ourselves during Samhain and Attrition. It is good to see the WpD trying to regain itself just before 2020. The only few differences between the real community and the WoD, is that we don't call each other "kindred", but Night Kind and we don't have Clans or Coteries or Salons, we only have Houses and Monthly to Quarterly Court sessions and meetings. The New Orleans Vamp Community is titled and regarded as the Court of Arkham as apposed to the Court of Gotham from New York with the residing Grand Elders as being Mavenlore and Myself accordingly and respectfully. Other Houses are Zaar from House of Mystic Echoes and his "NOVA" of which I'm a founding member of and have an honorary chair in.
Still the best tabletop rpgs out there. I miss running and playing these games.
We're baaaa-ck. :)
"Throughout the seventies and eighties, roleplaying games were all fantasy games."
Maybe there's some context to make this less of a really stupid and self-aggrandizing statement, but- okay, for those playing along at home, Call of Cthulhu came out in 1981, Paranoia came out in 1984, there was the western game Boot Hill, the 1920's crimefighter game Gangbusters, and of course there were sci-fi and superhero games too.
Not your best foot forward.
Not to mention Traveller, which came out three years after OD&D. One could even make the case that the WoD are closer to those "fantasy games" than Boot Hill and Traveller.
Hell, what about Cyberpunk and Cyberpunk 2020, came out in 1988 and 1990, respectively. Those were pretty fucking popular, too. Must've slipped the minds of the creative edgelords at White Wolf central.
I thought it seemed pretty clear that they were talking about the volume of actual play, not games published.
Traveller, CoC, and Cyperpunk where highly popular at the time, so the volume argument falls flat too.
Traveller, the great grandaddy of sci-fi RPGs (Metamorphosis Alpha came earlier, but it's more like the weird old uncle who collects garden gnomes and positions them in odd places around his house), was 1977.
The WOD of Darkness didn't influence pop culture pop culture influenced the WOD. Just look in any of the books where it suggests movies, music and books you can get for ideas and mood.
Yeah, just to name the two most obvious instances, the Brujah are a fairly obviously based on the vamps from The Lost Boys and the Nosferatu are pulled straight from Murnau's movie, then given a backstory to match the looks.
@@jochentram9301 Call themselves Nosferatu is a internal joke
The influence ran both ways, and that exchange is a major element of this film.
But the idea of a worldwide vampiric society was basically an new concept. All those influences that white wolf pulled from more or less had solitary predators or even a small coterie. Then movies shows like Blade, Underworld and True Blood began showing a similar social structure.
Before Hollywood shat upon Vampires, Aliens, Zombies Werewolves, and Demons, there was World of Darkness.
Absolutely lol-worthy. Best parody of WOD creators and fans yet.
Granted I love everything about World of Darkness ever since I discovered it, and it indeed changed my understanding of a what roleplaying game should be like, I think, as the other comments raise the concern, portraying old school simple fantasy games as un-cool nerds is not a good move. This is pretentious at the least (and ad hominem, even) if nothing else, and confirms the conception of a jerk who thinks he's cool pretending to be a vampire. Under a certain light, a mute brutish low intelligence sword & sorcery type of barbarian is way cooler than a wanna-be vampire wearing sunglasses at night. But it's good that you're releasing content beforehand, and possibly taking feedbacks into account so as not to botch a precious d10 roll.
As far as the trailer's content plus all the comments complaining about it:
I would definitely agree it's undeniable that other non-fantasy rpgs existed far before WW, including many sci fi, horror, generic or superhero rpgs. Still, the argument there would be the same as the one they're making for WoD vs D&D. If you'd even heard of tabletop gaming before the late 90's, it was almost always D&D unless you had played a while or lucked out and got invited to play by a friend who did, let alone the more obscure stuff. They could've said "In the 80's and early 90's, even though there were many different types of tabletop games, you rarely encountered anything other than fantasy." or "...was dominated by fantasy games primarily."
I also do feel the criticisms related to the shitshow that was CCP, how they handled WoD(by shitting on the entire company), and some of the general pretentiousness in the presentation are valid. For instance, if you're doing effectively a teaser not even a full length trailer, why include something as core to the games as playing the vampire(antagonist) without any other excerpt on why they thought that was a good choice, or how Mark and his coworkers arrived at doing that sort of game in the first place? So yes, in general, the trailer does feel somewhat pompous and also like they're showing off a bit with all the clips of Larpers in costume but little other content from the actual games. This I can guess may be due to their new management, who were primarily Larpers and didn't touch the tabletop games overly as far as the little I know. Still, they did at least cover a tidbit on some of the salient points, so if it had been only a teaser and not the only trailer I don't think it would've turned out too bad.
I do disagree heartily with the assessment that White Wolf only sponged off of pop culture and not the other way around. Yes, as anyone under the sun can tell you, there existed prior to WW, Vampires and other creatures of the night, rpgs of various genres, and some explorations of these themes in pop culture. What I felt WW did was to synthesize the elements which would work together the best. Granted, I'm no expert since I wasn't aware of the Nightlife contributor, although I did know about Ars Magicka for Mage the Ascension. That said, taking the ideas from a product you thought was excellent and making an idea of your own, or in the case of Ars, reworking that idea to where you feel it's better, are good techniques in general and not specific to WW. If you look at almost anything from the late 90's onwards in those genres, you can accurately see the impact WW has, even if it gets no credit for that. Granted, it may have been a bad idea to bring that up in the teaser, because you can't explore why or how that happened, but it holds water for sure.
Finally, I did feel in many ways it had more of a cultural impact outside of D&D of other non Fantasy rpgs, in terms of the creation of formal Larping that is wholly separate from tabletop, along with the entire gothic punk type costuming, gesturing and accents that go with that, of the myriad stories of people either with crazy situations who found solace in the games or found their significant other through the games, and of the unique exploration in titles aside from just Vampire the Masquerade, which is something I whole-heartedly hope they explored in this film. For instance, in Demon the Fallen all of the Fallen were and to some extent many still are, angels at heart, albeit dark angels with a lot of hatred, and they carry the weight of Milton's Paradise Lost on their shoulders throughout your chronicles. Similar to what Marvel did with the building of the comics and then separately of the MCU, White Wolf did in the tabletop side with the World of Darkness and then the Chronicles of Darkness. This richness of lore is another one of it's standout qualities to me. You really feel like this is a living breathing World of Darkness, not just an abstraction or a template slapped onto a set of rules.
What sort of RPG market did Vampire/WoD emerge into, and what did it do that was new? I don't think it invented horror and urban settings by itself, but it did something. For that, we would need to know what existed at that time.
Wonder if they're going to cover how a lot of the ideas were inspired by the Nightlife RPG that came out before. Or how there were several other strong non-fantasy games out at the time. But just from what they said in the opening lines I highly doubt that.
Live Fast.
Live Free.
Live Forever.
Speaking as one of the original White Wolves, we didn't even know at that time that Nightlife existed. That's not a hash on Nightlife - that's me saying we literally DID NOT KNOW it existed because it was a small-press game in the days before the internet existed.
We drew inspiration from many sources (all of which we've always credited) but Nightlife was not among them.
Honestly, I love WoD. It's interesting.
Hoping they cover all the games and not just Vampire.
And the fans keep grinding onward. Case in point? VTMB - that's right, I said it; go reinstall it. A new Clan Quest mod is on the horzion. After all those years, Jeanette still makes our undead hearts skip a beat. And the new characters out there? Well....you tell me:
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This. Should be a movie
How and where is it going to be available? And was that the cancelled World of Darkness at 1:28?
LuckyDay has not yet announced when and where it will be available for viewing/purchase. However, it has been announced that the premier will be at World of Darkness: Berlin in May 2017. www.worldofdarkness.berlin/
I hope you guys get your act together in terms of distribution and communication with your fan base. A lot of fans like myself who played the old tabletop and computer games are starting to feel like you really only care about catering to a very small segment of people (European LARPers) and have forgotten about the rest of us.
See you in Berlin!
0:46 Oh hey, I know her! Years ago in a LARP her character disrespected mine, so I orchestrated her being deposed as Prince, and then ultimately her character's Final Death - all without ever touching her. Never disrespect a Gangrel who knows how to play the game. 🤣
When I was stationed in Texas, we had a guy who combined all of the World of Darkness Games to create this crazy world that was definitely his! Our party included a time mage (me), a Dhamphir rockstar, some sort of werewolf that was cursed to look like a furby (long story), and a Changeling Hunter. The DM was obsessed with government conspiracies so we usually played along with his shenanigans until we got tired of just sitting around not fighting lol
That's the bit I always felt I wanted more of. The WoD is a shared world between the game lines, they cross-reference one another from time to time but there's very little interaction between them. What happens if your vampire clique tries to buff up against a mage cell running out of the local campus. We always had werewolves in the background of our vampire game, one of the big reasons vampires were confined by the city limits. No-one wanted to take a five-hour drive on the highway through the forest to get to the next town.
As a master i do the same in my 20 years old chronicle.
But i refuse to consider Demon The Fallen (garbage in my opinion), instead i put real demonology and lovecraftian lore in my world of darkness.
Oh, for boffins' sake. Nightlife, Shadowrun, Ars Magica, and Chill all predate Vampire. Medieval fantasy was not the only game in town; most RPGs out during the 80s were supers-based or science fiction. Also in 1991 were Amber Diceless and Kult. World of Darkness was not an utter game changer. It was just popular. Is there some way you could have made this maybe without denigrating or outright insulting tabletop gaming culture?
For clarity's sake that clip should have refrenced the question about games that were wildly successful in the 70's & 80's. Dungeons & Dragons marketshare was so far beyond eveything else when put in the context of cultural awareness and overwealming financial success it really was the only game in town in its catagory. It wasnt intended to imply there were no other RPG's at all before Vampire. Expect that to get clairified before final cut. However, in the 1990's World of Darkness was the first real RPG franchise to challenge Dungeons & Dragons both in terms of marketshare and broad pop culture success. It's also worth noting it was the first franchise to ever overtake D&D in marketshare in 1998. As far as being a game changer? It absoutely was. The modern vampire myth commonly seen in numerous films and TV today owe as much of their stylaized tropes to Vampire: The Masquerade as they do to Dracula or The Vampire Lestat. Ultimalty, as anyone who has seen Rogue One can attest there are always changes between a trailer and the the final film.
Or you know, not use that BS line. I love oWoD, but the arrogance of the trailer is stunning. It's exactly as stupidly pretentious as the oWoD-line was mocked as being.
Oh, in 1998, seven years after it came out? You can't really even claim that, though - there has been no publicly available, systematic examination of point of sale data, which means that comparisons like this have to be entirely anecdotal, and therefore empty claims.
I ran Werewolf for over ten years, ran Vampire for a little bit (then jumped over to Requiem the instant I was able). I can tell you that Shadowrun can pass a paternity test in regards to what Vampire inherited from it. I can tell you that nerds, cool kids, and perfectly normal kids were playing in my groups before 1991. I mean hell, back then I was 11 years old and got pulled into the hobby a couple years before that by a professional writer, my soccer coach, and an auto mechanic (all of whom were women, interestingly enough). The trailer is disingenuous and literally handwave-erases the large amount of diversity inherent to the hobby that straight up allowed Vampire to succeed while at the same time appearing to go out of its way to insult the extant gaming community by way of blanket statements about the nature of its players and the methodology of RPGs re: "kill dragon, take treasure." There was way more diversity than that. You want evidence? Look what I found five seconds on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_pen_and_paper_role-playing_games
Was D&D popular? Yes. But the trailer says balls about D&D, it talks about RPGs in general as all being fantasy based, which is either wrong or an outright lie. D&D was sharing the market quite well with superheroes, post-apocalyptic, detective games, and spy games, and even urban fantasy.
You think you can fix that, too? And again, maybe, not appear to deliberately insult your target audience?
Adam, what is a known and documented fact is that in 1998 White Wolf released Vampire: The Masquerade Revised Edition. At the time it had one of the highest, if not the highest pre-order sales of any core book ever released into the hobby market. The release of this product combined with the fact that TSR was on a downward slump due to being hugely in debt to their book publishing business and had effectively stopped producing new D&D material created a situation that World of Darkness became the first RPG to ever overtake Dungeons & Dragons in the market. I recommend going back and researching old issues of games quarterly, comics retailer or Inquest magazine if you need further proof. For much of the 1990's post 1995 World of Darkness and Dungeons & Dragons battled for dominance. With D&D usually commanding a 55%+ market share and World of Darkness usually coming in at around 30%+. The remaining 10-15% of the market was made up of everything else combined. With the number three brand usually never having more than a 3-5% market share.
D&D wasn’t just popular, D&D was a household name that anyone on the street in almost any English speaking city in the world has heard of. The same can still be said today. It was very much an industry and phenomenon unto itself. While the trailer doesn’t mention D&D specifically by name it does show exactly what game is being talked about specifically in the visuals. Also, something to remember is that when filming a documentary the viewer doesn’t hear the question asked. So if the question asked was 'in the 1970's and 80's what were the all the most successful role playing games?' The answer as given would not only be truthful but factual. Again, this is something can get cleaned up in the editing room due to a lack of clarity. Additionally, as most people who played Dungeons & Dragons in that era can attest to the main thrust of that game was very much about go do X thing and get treasure and experience. It is well documented about how D&D has evolved from an objective based wargame. While not all people played it that way, many people did. The reason that the "Stranger Things D&D steryotype'" resonated with so many people of a certain age when watching that show is because many people remember that era.
Again, the simple truth of the matter is that while there were other RPG's in the marketplace in the 70's 80's and 90's the only two ever to achieve a similar level of wide cultural and financial success were Dungeons & Dragons and Vampire: The Masquerade. Again, a trailer is not a final product. Its simply a trailer.
"At the time it had one of the highest, if not the highest pre-order sales of any core book ever released into the hobby market"
Where did you get the data on pre-orders of all those other RPG books from?
For those actually still interesed in the WoD MMORPG, a Russian company bought the engine/resources of the old WoD MMORPG from CCP and are re-doing the game again.If you're still interested, the game is called Dogma: Etnernal Night. The only thing that turns me off is that it isn't WoD official lore.
Jack Nife this is not correct. The WoD MMO is dead and all the remaining assets are in the possession of White Wolf.
Oh my bad, all of PGF Studio's assets from their game look extremly similar to the old WoD MMORPG,thanks for the clarification though!
That's going to be the problem that bites them in the ass. That and the fact they keep using WoD terminology all over their website; if they try to include that in their game they're going to get C&Ded faster than the Bloodlines unity remake did.
The reason it looks so similar is that some of the people putting that project together were playtesters for the WoD MMO from CCP and had access to a very early alpha playtest version of what that game was going to be. It's our understanding that they took that playtest code and built their own game based on it in some capacity.
V:tM has vampires, werewolves, wizards, ghosts, magic, a direct tie-in to Rein-Hagen's earlier Ars Magica . . .
. . . and you're trying to tell me it's not fantasy?
Pull the other one. WoD is fantasy. Always has been. Granted that it helped popularise the sub-genre of "urban fantasy", or fantasy in a modern setting, but it's still fantasy.
You cut out the part at the end where you say, "The Aristocrats!" (Seriously, have you guys lost your minds?)
I hope beyond hope they put this on Netflix or Amazon or SOMETHING! I need to see this.
Opening with a boldfaced lie is NOT a good documentary practice.
Traveller was released in 1977, and lacked dragons, seldom had dungeons nor even dungeon-like settings.
James Bond 007 was 1983, as was FASA's Star Trek the RPG.
We also have Marvel Super Heroes in 1984.
And Star Frontiers and Space Opera both in '81.
Space 1889 in 1988.
SpaceMaster in 1984.
Starships & Spacemen in 1978.
So "All RPGs were fantasy" is a flat out lie. If it was in ignorance, you're too ignorant to be doing a documentary. If not, you've established that you're making propaganda, not a documentary.
i like this video thanks for the content
Here's a short, incomplete list of games that apparently don't actually exist according to this documentary:
Call of Cthulhu
Gamma World
Traveller
Buck Rogers XXVC
Ghostbusters RPG
Chill
Metamorphosis Alpha
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Other Strangeness
After the Bomb
Paranoia
The Mechanoids Invasion (First ever game by Palladium)
Hell, Sci-Fi games were nearly as common as fantasy games back in the 70s, and by the 80s, "me too" attempts at cloning the success stories in that genre were nearly as thick on the ground as D&D clones.
5th ed sounds awful as shit. Way too much SJW influence and the cam only talking humane vampires? Uh the fuck? Then what about Elders who are really low on humanity by being alive so damn long? Some of the elders are still on ROADS...I want to see it all crash and burn. Some Men just want to see the World of Darkness burn. I'm one of them. Down with 5th ed. NWOD sounds better than 5th ed....what if its a shitty plot to get more people to go to NWoD by now making Old WOD really fucking stupid?
_Twilight: 2000_ , _Gamma World_ , _Aftermath_ , _Recon_ , _Mechwarrior_
, _Star Frontiers_ , _Traveller_ , _Metamorphosis: Alpha_ , _Cyberpunk
2020_ , _SpaceMaster_ , _Champions_ , _Call of Cthulhu_ , _Star Wars_ ,
_Marvel Super Heroes_ , _Star Trek: The Role-Playing Game_ , _Robotech_ , _Boot Hill_ -
whomever is responsible for this mockumentary, you are poor researchers
and will produce a bad film.
I watched this Documentary to gain insight in what The Masquerade is. I think it was a good watch. But then it switched over to legal battles and how everything related to vampires was supposedly copying White Wolfs work. And that is just bullshit. Sure you created something,millions loved it but do not pretend for one minute you own the vampire market. You do not get to decide what other people make and then say it was influenced from your work because seriously that is very hard not to do. You can always find something in everything that matches things they made. Vampire Lore is far older not to mention European based before a American company even started on it. You wanna make something vampire style fine. But don't kid yourself you own it. One of the oldest Nosferatu movies came from the 1930's. Then there is Dracula. So do not speak about borrowing something because Bram Stoker or others could have sued you the same way and won. That i really hated about this documentary. Because White Wolf suddenly felt uncool and butthurt because others showed originality. Play your damn game and let others do what they do. Blade,True Blood,Twilight,Underworld i watched and seen it all Vampire related and not once did i tie it to The Masquerade. Not even after watching this. I mean stop kidding yourselves. You can't stop others from making something New and then start moaning it is yours. And for the record i respect all. No matter what you play or dress up as. Just have fun. This was clearly a game that the people made their own. Moving beyond rules and limits. And then just ended. Like all things do. In a sense that you can just keep playing it. But the Market & times move on. And their are always new or bigger fishes awaiting their turn to strike.
1:27 it could've be so amazing :'(
At this point, whenever there is a game with vampires in it, I will only play it if I can play as said vampire. FYI, dhampirs don't count, especially if they are emo hypocrite sort (D, Blade, Castlevania's Alucard).
I am just here for the cool music
The industry need a MMORPG of this.
where can I get this documentary from
1991 seems like it wasn't that long ago:) Thanks for helping me learn to interact with real people (MET!); that skill has paid major dividends in my life! And, thanks for the great memories and many more to come!
We can discuss on that - but we cannot play WoD as a mmorpg . That ´s where it ´s at . Thx ccp , Ima program this shit right away .
My Favorite RPG World!
I love it!
What is the name of music in this trailer? I'm searching for it hours... Please
Im so excited for this!
Like Traveller, Boot Hill, Chill, Gamma World, Top Secret, Ninjas & Superspies, Bushido, Bunnies & Burrows, Paranoia, 2300AD, MechWarrior, Call of Cthulhu, Space Opera, etc. "Only fantasy in the 70's and 80's".
Plus, didn't Vampire inspire that guy that started a cult and actually killed someone?
Don't forget Shadowrun, made by the same folks who did Mechwarrior/Battletech! I mean, I guess maybe Shadowrun doesn't count because it has magic and fantasy races (elves, dwarves and orcs) in a 2050+ cyberpunk setting... but then, WoD has vampires and werewolves in a 1990s setting, and vampires+werewolves are preeeetty fantasy.
I like Vampire the masquerade, but it was a bit annoying the documentary made it look like they were the first to jump from pure fantasy to this new dark world.. I mean was not Call of Cthulhu published almost 10 years before. It did not let players to play vampires, but opened the cosmic horrors to the players, who played just normal humans, weak and scared, going insane. Personally I find these games similar in many ways, but they both do have their unique sides too.
@Paul Gauthier Could be also a country thing.. I knew very few VtM players in Finland
Hey the name of the song? anybody ? thanks!
Vampire: The Masquerade was my game since 1993 & the World of Darkness since my nights in college because I couldn’t afford Dungeons & Dragons as a kid. However, I am making up for lost time. I got the WoD DVD from www.Amazon.com early last year. Arigatou.
music from 0.45 to 0.55.. anyone?
what's the song name? :D
I don't mean to pry... but it's Summer 2017 already... is it ready yet and if so, where can I watch it?
What is distribution looking like for 2019-2020?
It's on Amazon.
I made a video for a design project of my Jyhad/VTES card group in college and it used the Kidney Thieves' Before I'm Dead and all the transitions in this video XD This aesthetic is gold. I can't WAIT to watch this.
please make werewolf the apocalypse with good graphics gameplay and especialy story
dont make mistake that most companies do these days pls
They gave the license to Relic...So you can look forward to the PC equivalent of a McDonalds meal. Bland and forgettable.
wait isnt cyanide making this game?
Yes, sorry. Mixed names up. The guys who made Blood Bowl: Or How Not to Spend Sixty Minutes of Your Life.
they are making the new call of cthulhu?
we will see how that turns out
and have u played styx? its a good stealth game
As an outsider to the tabletop RPGs I find this documentary rather interesting. I'm really looking forward to seeing this.
Nämen, Johanna Koljonen. Kul med lite bekanta ansikten. Ser fram emot det här, närhelst projektet släpps lös på allmänheten under sommaren (alla har liksom inte tid/råd att ta sig till Berlin för att gå på filmpremiär).
How about a new bloodlines lol
Hahahaha, I love this. A bunch of nerd convincing themselves they weren't nerds. Vampire nerds were the biggest nerds there were! HAHAHAHAHA! Fun times. :) Malkav for life!
Un posticino riservatelo anche a Christof Romuald please.
Where can I get this?
"None of the cool kids played DnD, WoD changed everything!" - Maybe...
Anyone who I could even consider kind of cool is playing D&D. I straight up can't even find WoD players.
That was then, this is now. The current primacy of the "geek" in pop culture is a relatively recent phenomenon and back in the late 80's to early 90's, saying that you liked fantasy novels and tabletop gaming was like saying that you were into erotic furry art today. Man, you kept that under your hat.
Yeah, i get that (Y)
I find it curious as to how you can have famous people, like Vin Diesel, come out and say "Yeah, I played Dnd and I loved it!", thus giving credence to DnD's inspiration on popular culture...With WoD...I've pretty much never heard the equivalent, just WoD fans shouting that the brand totally came before Anne Rice etc and inspired EVERYTHING.
Right Zen Gunman, but back then saying you played "Vampire the Masquerade" was if anything *worse* than saying you played D&D. "It's like D&D but we play as angsty vampires instead!" wasn't exactly a clarion call to coolness, despite WW's current claims otherwise.
Can I buy this documentary anywhere?
Alguém teria uma legenda em português para esse documentário? Ele é de 2017 e estamos em 2020. Ninguém teve interesse ainda de legendar? Alguém legenda, por favor!!!
1:25 Damn, that dude looks a bit like Lovecraft
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So Desperately Want to find the Soundtrack to this documentary. but clearly i lack the ability to source any of the tracks
do a storyline using a podcast format. use your own storytellers and people who love the game.
Wish they released the soundtrack to the documentary
T-ha .!!. .!!.
Wow what an insulting comment about rpgs before vampire.
Even though I spent a ton of money and ran and played vampire and other ww rpgs way Back then. You can be sure I've made a mental note to never buy any ww products after this insulting clip.
Well, they certainly succeeded in bringing back 90s attitude and edginess, and reminded me why I didn't miss it.
Other problems on their part:
Their lead storyteller locked a claustrophobe in a closet during a LARP.
They hired Zak S., a notorious serial harasser, and immediately said that all the accusations were false according to their investigations, which, even if you somehow *don't* believe he's responsible given the overwhelming evidence and numerous accounts, is a boneheaded move that's insulting to his alleged victims.
They reprinted an anthology by literal convicted child rapist Edward E. Kramer with his name front and center and no disclaimer or apology of any sort, just to shove a new story into it.
Nearly everything coming out about their new One World of Darkness is just plain awful. (The Elders and Sabbat have fucked off to hidden temples in the East to fight the "Gehenna War." No, really, that's an actual established element, and it actually gets *more* ridiculous from there.)
The 5th edition is going to tank. I hope it does anyway.
Stick with Onyx Path! I've completely shifted over to Chronicles of Darkness.
They act like they are bigger than D&D. lol please.
When I played it in the early 90's, Vampire was popular, but it was considered silly and pretentious by a lot of people and I - a goth and vampire fan - could not run it because it was soooo full of unnecessary angst. Not my game.
Fucking awesome :)
These vampires have kitteh teeth X3
Man, their vision of what World of Darkness influenced really didn't last. Even the things it influenced as they showed are kind of old hat.
When will the movie be released? It seems that never
This is really edgy nerd stuff and the success it had is unheard of. The Larp is almost like a mystery play. The whole wod line seems infused by occult power. Later games like Mage are so explicit and philosophically refined that it's almost miraculous. I really wonder how they went about creating their universe. I also wonder if in the end those worlds are meant to heal you or to hurt you.
The LARP rules were cumbersome. A lot of the nordic LARPs tried to move away from that style, where it felt like you needed to pause the game and break out a pen-and-paper light to take an action.
Werewolf was better
I'm in The mummy RPG.
Maybe ten years ago, I would have been excited by this trailer. Now not so much. White Wolf keeps sucker punching the fans.
Awesome trailer!
One big difference is that it always had a lot of women playing too, cant say the same for other p&p.
A lot more characters in general, including female characters. Less nameless NPC mooks that fill out a factions ranks with a few outwards faces, more social and power networks that fill out the city.
Sign me up
This trailer is so much like "Make the Bad Guys cry like an Anime Fan on Prom Night"
These aren't even the original developers?
Vem Monstro!!!!
Funny, I knew cool kids who played DnD. Of my early groups, one is a doctor, one is a state psychologist, one is a computer technician and one is the manager at an animal testing facility. No one I know who came from DnD turned out to be loosers.
666!
This is a joke, right?!?
"None of the cool kids played roleplaying games."
This is still true today.
Ohh mann, the natives at RPG.NET are _not_ happy...
forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?799220-New-White-Wolf-quot-Before-Vampire-RPGs-were-all-childish-fantasy-games-for-losers!-quot
...and to be fair this video does comes off as your grandpa trying to be cool.
Aaanyway, here's another bit of history tabletoppers might find interesting: A man by the name of #RonEdwards found the original #VampireTheMasquerade so annoying for not being what it claimed to be about that he wrote a game called #Sorcerer, formed a game design group called #TheForge, and essentially laid the foundation for the entire RPG #Indie scene.
He also called gamers who didn't understand 'story' brain damaged, which makes him just perfect for this 'documentary' :P
My personal favorite post in that thread:
This is awesome.
This is the What We Do In The Shadows sequel I was hoping for.
What do you mean, this isn't a parody?
meh
Comeon White Wolf we want to know the song :)
Wow. Very good.
So here for this. The slow death of VtM's influence on gaming has been hard to watch.
I hear you Chloe , one year later and the game is still going downhill, fading while struggling to realise its own themes and appeal.