2 Levels of Japanese Maple Repotting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2020
- Working backwards through spring bonsai repotting...
I show the root work on an advanced japanese maple bonsai as I squeeze it into a shallow pot. There is much detail work that is considered when continuing to improve the nebari of a tree even after 15 years.
Next, I move on to the still-in-development root system of another japanese maple. Without the nicely established radial roots, this bonsai of only 3 years is in need of additional guidance.
Head to BonsaiEcho.com and BE Inspired to see yet another level of japanese maple bonsai repotting work. This time, on a nice piece of nursery stock getting its very first rootwork on its path to becoming bonsai.
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I am a big fan of that first maple. It really just looks like a "little tree"
One of my favorites!
Yes, that tree is a masterpiece in the making. The graft union is noticeable but everything below and above it is a truly beautiful image. It looks like a miniature version of a tree you would see growing alone on a hilltop in a meadow or between fields on a farm.
I really respect your decision to switch to round pots and the work associated with developing your bonsais with no front. Thanks
I’m still working on finding suitable containers. It’s taking awhile and is a challenge since much of the world’s Bonsai potters focus on what sells, which means traditional rectangles and ovals are easy to find whereas nice rounds are not found as easily. It also means temporary grow boxes for many of my trees for the next several years while I source containers. They’ll be nice and strong though🤩.
really stunning :) so nice to see a deciduous tree that actually looks like a deciduous tree
I enjoy seeing both styles of Bonsai. The naturalistic and the blatantly artistic.
I love your attention to detail, thx for the tips 😊
Lots of detail on this one, for sure. Both of these trees are ones I really want to see develop well, so it’s worth the extra effort to me.
I really appreciate your videos, how you explain the what and why, and how Cleanly you work. Looking forward to seeing a tire of your trees in leaf and though out the season. Thank you for all your inspiration. ☺️
I like neat🤩
Love this video so much and learnt so much as well. Would love to see more of this long informative form content from you!
Some subjects work really well as long form. I’ll do more whenever I can.
Thank you for the recommendation🙏🏼
Hey brother,we're learning a lot from your video's.thank you!! I agree with you on not doing bonsai shows as everyone tells you how what your doing my be wrong or improper and not traditional.Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with traditon but there's in my humble opinion nothing wrong thinking outside the box and just enjoying and being happy with what we've created as a artist.I got pics on the way in the next couple day's to get your opinion and advice.Grow hard !!!
I’d enjoy seeing some tree pics, Harold!
Just remember that opinion belongs to the person giving it and reveals much more about them than it does you. That’s one reason why I don’t really feel the need to put my trees in shows. I already know enough about what I like to be satisfied with what I do and don’t desire approval. I do aim to inspire, and that’s why I share on places like TH-cam. It allows for better discussions and reaches many more people. Thank you for contributing to that!
Nice work, I enjoyed learning how you handle these maples 🙏
I’m busy with many more maples this spring. There will likely be more to see as long as I remember to document it😉.
You can tell you truly enjoy your art!
The outcome looked super dope!
Yah. I like doing this stuff. 😏
Thank you for sharing. I learned you a lot of things.From Vietnam.
Happy to have you here🤩
Awesome Kiyohime and also repotting vid. Hope my chopstick-sized Kiyohime becomes big and nice someday.
Looks great!
very nice, love that moss
Round pot! Makes soo much sense!
That’s the direction I like.
Wow, I love it!
Great job ,looking good
Thanks Mitch 🤙
Beautiful miniature tree structure !
That’s one of my favorite little trees. It has been in my collection many years.
Thanks for the video. Great info and inspiration for the coming repotting season. I moved from Philly to New Orleans this past summer and am now clueless about when to start repotting. It is so warm here. I used to repot in early April up north but I am already seeing bud swelling/pushing in late January.
Good luck building the website - I will check it out!
What a difference that climate change will be! I see some nice bald cypresses in your future!
Haha, yes indeed...bald cypress, crepe myrtle (this will be a fun one), laurel/swamp oak, and of course ficus and other tropicals. I already had a flat top bald cypress in my collection but I am sure I'll have a dozen in a few years time.
Beautiful
Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Enjoy watching it.
I live in Washington too!! And I’m familiar with Higashi Nursery, the lady there is super nice! That is where I get most of my bonsai material from. She’s even sold me a few of her husbands bonsai. I live in NE Tacoma. I’m glad I found ur channel. Great video and fantastic maples! Keep up the great work
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Super vidéo. 👌🏻🌳
Nice video..
Beautiful trees!! I like your idea of the "no front" bonsai. Just had that thought today while working on my Japanese maple.. it has so many nice fronts lol
Why not highlight every side then, right?!!😍
@BonsaiEcho I agree!! Quick question regarding root work. I noticed you cut a few thick roots on the first tree you worked on. I did something similar on mine, but to a greater extent; I just worked on a maple that has been in a pot for most of its life (15-20 years old), and the roots were a mess. There were a lot of thick roots going straight down. My question is, for cuts that thick, is it okay to just leave the cut bare open, or is it possible/necessary to add some type of protection similar to how branches are protected with cut paste?
@@santiagoromero3475 I don’t apply any sealant to the cuts on roots. You’ll be able to see why it isn’t necessary on maples at the following repot. Healthy roots will produce new roots from the cut ends most of the time.
@@BonsaiEcho great to know! Thank you for the reply. For some contexts the roots were like the radius of a quarter coin... Possibly a bit thicker but not by much.
Very nice work, I'd almost think you could take more roots cause there are so many. Beautiful pot selection.
I’ll likely take more low roots next time. I’m nearly at the most shallow I can go as it is.
Love your trees. Love your work room. Your OCD makes me nervous.
I don’t actually have OCD. That’s a real condition. I have CDO. It’s similar except it’s a made up thing and the letters are in alphabetical order as they should be.
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Lol...👍🏻
Very precise work. Your potting technics are brilliant Jarod.
Repotting is a little like opening a gift. Sometimes you get a really amazing experience that makes you really happy. Sometimes you get something that you’re not sure what to do with and you have to remind yourself that it’s still a gift to be able to play bonsai. 🥳
✨ interesting ...
Thx 👍
Great video, the first tree really looks show worthy now. Do you use pine bark or decidous tree bark? And have you ever thought of drilling extra drainage holes in this shallow bonsai pots. I have few nice pots, but they have bad drainage.
All best,
Toni
That first tree is really nice. Definitely a favorite. I’ve not put trees in official Bonsai shows. I just haven’t felt the need to do it. Perhaps someday I will🤔.
I drill holes when needed. Usually for wire ties, but sometimes for drainage. I have another pot being commissioned by the same artist that made that first pot and I had him add extra drainage prior to firing. That pot should be done soon. I have another favorite tree that the pot is intended for and really needs to be repotted.
If you do any carving work on that trunk please post a vid, amazing work thanks for sharing subscribed 👍✌
I’ll do some trunk scarring on the more developed tree to smooth out the graft union. I’ll also do some carving on the less developed tree. Videos all around!
@@BonsaiEcho fantastic thank you I'm new to bonsai only 1 year so got a lot to learn thanks again
I really like that grow box! What is your technique for the blue paint? What kind of paint, sanded, stained, treated, sealed, etc.?
Great videos, thanks.
Lightly burnt and brushed wood boards sprayed with a random left over can of spray paint and then left to dry and lightly sanded to lighten the heavily painted areas. No sealant. The burning helps to preserve the wood boards by closing up some pores and hardening it a little for less water absorption. I’ve found good results with this technique by rushing the process and not allowing room to overthink it.
Great content! I just picked up a Bloodgood Japanese Maple that has some smooth black bark on almost every branch. Is this typical?
On dark leaved JMs, yes that is common to see on both the branches and on the buds before they open in spring. It can look like they have perished, but if you scratch the stem you will see green on live tissue.
Whats the most important thing to do in the first couple years of training a tree to become a bonsai tree? Such as what type of pot to put the tree in, like the depth and diameter of the pot? and also what type of pruning needs to be done? Such as root pruning and also pruning above to create good ramification. Just got into bonsai about a year ago and I have tons of questions. Awesome video, love the length and detail in it. Awesome instagram page too. Keep it up!
The most important thing is always to get the tree healthy and keep it that way, regardless of the stage of development. That’s a big reason why we check the roots to see how they are doing. You can see the difference in these two maples which one has settled into bonsai life and which one is still recovering from neglect. Exercise a balance of patience and decisive action. There is so much to learn. Keep searching for information in books and videos, but always work on implementing what you learn with cultivation in mind first and styling after that.
@@BonsaiEcho Will do, thanks for the response. Much appreciated
So the first tree you said had been in the wooden box for only a couple of months. My questions is why are you already reporting again?
Removed from pot in fall to sell the pot. No roots cut. Slip potted into wooden box to over winter. No roots cut.
Real root work only done just now for actual legit repotting work.
Beautiful job! You mentioned you get your soil locally. I’m local to you. Where do you get your soil from? I’m looking for local bonsai shops. It’s a little difficult to find.
I get pumice from River Road Landscape Supply in Puyallup. Cinder and bark en masse from any landscape supply. Bags-o-bark from big box stores. The pine bark bags come from the blue store.
Bonsai Echo thank you sir!
What times of the year can I safely repot maples? I have one that needs repotting , but afraid to repot mid-July.
Thanks!
I repot mostly in very late winter or early spring when I do major root work. For light work, I do some in autumn for strong trees.
What is the ratio of pine bark to pumice in your soil mix,looks like about 50/50 .enjoying your videos 👍
50/50 for my maples and most of my deciduous. Less bark for my conifers. More bark for my azaleas and rhodies and similar acid lovers.
Love your videos as always! Have you ever grafted a jade plant? Would it work?
I’ve not spent much time with jade. It grows new foliage easily when cut back, but perhaps not exactly where it’s desired. I don’t plan on working much with it because it doesn’t grow well where I am. I am focusing on plants that like my climate. Better success rate and therefore enjoyment 😊.
I see no need to graft jade the root easily.
I'v seen a " clumping maple", three trunks in one pot. Been thinking of buying it. Will it separate into three separate trees? I was also thinking of air layering all three. What are your thoughts. Ty.
It’s more likely that the three separate trunks will fuse together at the lower trunks or in the roots. If it is possible to separate, be prepared for one or more sides of the trunk and roots to be bare for quite some time. Layering is likely a better option for creating separate trees.
Bonsai Echo Thanks for your prompt response . I think I'll give it a try .
Why do you want to seperate them?
You can cut the shine on the glacé with a bit of wet/dry sandpaper. And still maintain the nice shade
Of the pot.
Good tip. I’ve also heard some sports drinks are powerful enough to acid etch given enough soaking time. 〽️
Great video! Who is your favorite grower in the PNW for maples?
It was a little place in Sumner. They look to be closing any day now though.
Bonsai Echo you holding the name secret? Lol jk. Are they closing for good? Have you need to celestial maples in gig harbor? Great place!!
@@boombapboom I was there a month ago and their place was in a really poor state. Out of respect for them, I won’t be putting the name on blast. They were talking very seriously about retiring and selling though. In fact, they asked me if I wanted to buy it. So much work to get it going again though. Maybe I’ll be able to convince them to let go of a bunch of their stock to me, but I don’t plan on trying to resurrect the place.
I have yet to go to Celestial Maples.
Bonsai Echo I get it, I was just foolin. I would definitely see if they can part with some of the stock. That would be great. I have taken some notes from you and started asking nurseries if they have stock that hasn’t made it to the floor because of issues. Thanks for posting the great videos, they have helped me tremendously!
How do you know when the tree needs to be watered with all the moss on top? 🤔
Good question. The moss dries when the soil dries. It can also be lifted to check the soil. Japanese maples do well with consistent moisture levels, and moss keeps the soil from drying super fast in hotter weather.
what are the pliers called that you are twisting the wire with?
The black ones? They are called jin pliers. I took a standard style with straight handles and ground the ends into two other tools which I use for many things. One end is a sharp point and the other is a flat chisel point. It makes this tool very useful.
Hello
What does it look like now (3 month after, with spring half way thru) ?
I just gave it a good once over since it was so fluffy. Too fluffy. I actually thinned it out more than usual to open it up. May even air it out more yet 🤔.
from what i know, sphagnum moss is the best when you have roots trouble.
it makes it grow back so quickly…
i'm actually doing this to all my plants in trouble and i can already see the difference in one month.
Baie mooi /well done son
Hi, what do you do with the old soil? Can it be recycled?
Old soil that has proven to grow great roots can be recycled. I’ve sifted it and used it for grow boxes for trees in development before. I also use it as fill dirt in my yard projects.
a few minutes in the nuker or 70% iso alcohol/water mix work great. i use both..
Im rather afraid to take alot of roots off my trees. Ive read that for junipers you can only ever take %30 at a time. Why is it with this tree you took more like %80? Will the tree survive this amount of root pruning? thats very impressive.
Maples are VERY strong and healthy tree can survive that easily.
Right on target 🎯!
Every tree is different. In general, maples can handle thick root cuts and large amounts of root work every other year. They will eventually develop great root based like the one you saw me do the most cutting on. You’ll also notice that the tree with the fine roots all around the trunk has matching branches all around the canopy. The one with sparse roots also has sparse branching. This will get better as the roots recover from its neglected state from the nursery.
hi , amazing maple , love from malaysia 🇲🇾, how to create such a beautiful nebari
Years of growth in a shallow pot.
Is it a grafted Kiyohime or a cutting-grown one?
It’s grafted. I’ll work on the graft union hips at some point so they don’t show up as much.
@@BonsaiEcho Ok, I'm ready for the graft union concealing work
@@ericgamble5104 I'm with you on that. I can't seem to find much on that subject.
@@BonsaiEcho It'd be good to see that in a video.
Could you point me in the direction of that wire you got in china?
Alibaba.com
Search “Bonsai Wire”
MOQs on some items.
Minimum Order Quantity of 2kg is common.
@@BonsaiEcho thanks I'm getting ready for spring and cant seem to find larger wire.
Do you have a link for the mesh?
I don’t have a specific preference for that item. I search “mesh canvas” when I want to source more.
what soil mix?
Lava/pumice/bark. Well sifted.
hi ,,what is the ratio of your pumice and fine bark,,,,,,thanks in advance....Lito
For maples: 40% Pumice, 40% composted bark, 20% lava
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How did you get that insane taper on the kojo hime without a visible scar ?
There’s a grafting scar still, but it’s smoothing out over time. So, to answer the question... patience.
3:02 The way you're holding it is the correct way. The Japanese itself isn't correct though :)
I’m not sure what the artist intended to have as his maker’s mark there. What does it translate to as written?
What the artist was probably trying to write is "Bonsai Seeker" 盆栽シーカー (盆 栽 _bon sai_ シー カー _shii kaa),_ instead it unfortunately turned out to be something a pre-elementary school kid could have written, so it looks more like 盆栽ツー刀ー. The Kanji (characters with Chinese origin) look a bit strange but not wrong, but the シ _shi_ looks like a ツ _tsu_ and the カ looks like it's missing a stroke, which makes it look like the word 刀 _katana_ (sword). Long story short, it looks like "Bonsai Tsuhker" instead of "Bonsai Seeker", but it's not completely off, so you can still guess the meaning. At least he/she tried I guess. It probably doesn't look too bad to people who don't know Japanese :)
Do you sale maple seeds or seedling?
I don’t have any right now. I may have some at the end of the year.
Where are you located and how meny seeds are you looking for I've got some that are being stratified as we speak.
@@jameswalker3416 I live in Roswell, New Mexico.
@@69juamex I could send you some for shipping if you would like I'm not shore if they will like the weather down there though.
Email me 814jameswalker@gmail.com
Maybe less bark will give you better root growth. So much organic holds a lot of water. Roots do not have to extend this way.
That was the issue with the soil for the less developed tree before repotting. Once the radial fine roots like on the more developed tree appear, they do great in the soil mix I showed in this video. At least they do in my climate and with my watering routine.
You should use small amount of sphagnum moss
Sphagnum moss can be good if one so chooses. I choose not to because a mix with good water retention that also drains well and has good space for air exchange in the pot can be accomplished in many different ways. I’ve just gone with a way that works for me.
That first trees pot seems a little small.
It could be a bit small. I may pull the foliage back in to reduce the overall spread of the branches a bit. Or I may just decide I really like it. 🤔
I already like it quite a bit as is.
Need more tying wire mate, need at least 8 bits
Securely tied in roots is a key to new root development as it reduces movement that could break them off. That’s why I test to see that I can lift the pot by pulling the tree up. That is far more brutal than the treatment it would normally go through in its bonsai life on my benches. There are cases where more or less securing devices are required to effectively accomplish a steady attachment. I find it’s not the number that counts, but more the method that matters.
bro 4 wires lmao.. so unnecesary
Securely tied in roots is a key to new root development as it reduces movement that could break them off. That’s why I test to see that I can lift the pot by pulling the tree up. That is far more brutal than the treatment it would normally go through in its bonsai life on my benches. There are cases where more or less securing devices are required to effectively accomplish a steady attachment. I find it’s not the number that counts, but more the method that matters.
@@BonsaiEcho I dont tie my trees and they make new roots just fine. But hey if it works for you cool man.
bux bux The neighborhood critters really enjoy hanging out in my bonsai and some are a bit clumsy. Back before I paid much attention to securing my trees, I’d find them partially uprooted every now and then. No more issues with that now. Also, I do sell some of my trees and they survive transport much better when tied in securely.
You are right... it is optional. I choose the option that fits my needs.
I appreciate the opportunity to go into a bit more depth on this subject and I wish you the best with your Bonsai journey.
Bonsai echo I have to agree I've had a few rather nice trees unsecured and an animal, I'm guessing squirrel, uprooted and died from said injury..