Going through the same thing with Ford, feel your pain sir. I have a 2019 F250 that leaks massive amounts of water in the cab every time it rains or it’s washed. Bought it in January 2019, I’m my possession for maybe 10 days, in shop remainder of time. Just got Ford to approve lemon law last Wednesday, more than 30 days out of service. Wanted to replace but based on how I was treated at dealer and by Ford I’m leaving the brand. My dealer told me this was a Ford issue and they would not risk financial loss for Ford motor company. They only buy and resell is what I was told. Also strong armed me to bring loaner back. Said I had it too long, my fault I guess. The entire situation is crap. Just starting lemon law, but already starting to see Ford posturing on what they will and will not compensate me for. I feel like I’m going to lose money on this even though its a Ford issue. The truck has a whopping 190 miles on it. Will update on the buy back process as it evolves this week. I’m ready to be finished after 8 weeks of arguing to push ford and Ford of Port Richey FL to honor the quality of a $71k (full sticker retail) truck. Buyer beware.
Sick, just sick. Spend the better part of $100K on a truck and get shit on. What a world we live in these days. Your a FORD dealership yet you won't stand behind the products you sell. What a joke. That dealership should have let you keep that loaner as long as you damn well wanted / need and kissed your ass on top of it. There are days I look out at my old 08 RAM 1500 5.7 and think the old girl is getting a bit tired at 240,000 miles... but I'll be damned if it doesn't start right up and run like a top. I paid $4,800 for the truck about a year and a half ago. At this rate, I'll be keeping it another five or six years and for sure won't be buying a FORD truck when I do get another one. The sad part? I actually like the look of the truck, I like what you get for the money. I'd be a potential buyer. But knowing what I do about how horrible they are in terms of customer service and the problems with the 3.5's and 5.0's.... never. I'm temped to just rebuild the hemi in my truck and throw on a rebuilt tranny and just run it until the body rots off.... I think I'd be way further ahead.
I live in farm country and their is a 35 year Ford dealer that serviced the farms, loggers, resort vehicles and residents in the area. The eco boost was the start of their demise along with aluminum body panels. Their pretty but they don't hold up to people and businesses using them as a truck. It seems the new choice for the locals has been Ram trucks. Haven't heard complaints yet. The start stop on mine I believe killed it. Ever collect bales of hay for 10 hours pulling a hay wagon. It was in for service every couple weeks. I decided to try a Nissan Titan. No issues at all yet. The local Ford dealership has a overflowing lot of new trucks, even 2018's. Maybe they have what your looking for.
I just took my 2018 5.0 in this week for the new updated tsb you mentioned for the rattle and also the CEL was on for a camshaft position sensor. 7k miles. Bought the truck in January of 2018 and first noticed it around spring time when I had the windows down. Progressively it got louder and rattled for a longer time. Before I took it in I was timing it anywhere between 1.5 and 3 seconds of rattle. Now that the tsb was done it’s still there, but much much quieter and just a split second. I told them about the tsb 18-2354, but they did 18-2360, which I’m guessing is the new once since they did the phasers and solenoids. Other than that, the truck has been great the last 14 months
I’d just be worried about overall wear.. idk I was dead set on a 5.0 ended up with a 2.7 because of reported issues. I wouldn’t keep it out of warranty but that’s just me. Flood ford sells factory warranties dirt cheap online.
I feel for you! The dealership I am dealing with on a oil consumption issue on a 2018 Ford F-150 5.0L is giving all kinds of excuses and the run around and up to this point will not stand behind there product that we bought from them. It uses 1 quart of oil every 700 miles! Do not buy a F150!!!!!!!!
@@brandonrodriguez9551 After the trade-in and extended service plan AND taxes I got the 2019 F250 XLT CCSB well equipped for $43-$44k...picking up the truck on Tuesday after Sprayun liner, Premier Defence protection package and added NAV....very happy so far!
I presently own a 2013 F150 Lariat. I bought it new. It presently has 41,000 miles on it. It has been making moaning type sounds from the transmission ever since I bought it. Due to the dealer not being able to “replicate” the sounds, I have been forced to live with it. I know Ford knows that this is an issue with some of their trucks, because they have issued a service bulletin on it. They just don’t want to stand behind their product. I know how it feels and am sorry you are having to deal with dishonest people who ,to protect themselves, try to make you feel and look like the problem.
It is the Cam Phasers going bad. They replaced my cam phasers, timing belt, gaskets and numerous other parts. Along with full oil change to drain any shavings. Took me finding the right dealership to get it done.
I have a 2018 SCREW STX 2.7 and added an Airaid CAI and Dual Flowmaster Catback Exhaust and am reading on Torque Pro app at 401HP and 480lb torque and I Love it! 25mpg average with mostly highway driving and plenty of power. Good luck.
@@snipert6841 Ford said no to buy back, dealership was VERY good to me after I sent email to owner. Ended up getting 2019 F250 XLT 6.2l gas. CCSB 4x4. Lots of goodies. They gave me $34800 for my 18 F150. Love the 250!
Oh, by the way, Wicked F-150, that metal hitting metal sound on start up is the yoke slamming. I recorded it. It will do it damn near 100% of the time of you park the truck on a grade and apply emergency break. It will slam on the next start up. It doesn’t look too earth shattering when you actually see it but damn it sounds like the drive shaft is gonna torque itself right off.
I have a 2.7L it has plenty of power off the line and pass people fast *shrug* So far no engine issues I have a video on a radio randomly not working issue, I'm not overly concerned as I plan to upgrade the stereo and install a Navigation and rear camera once I'm out of warranty. Nice on a trip hauling 4 motorcycles (3 in the bed and one on a hitch carrier so around 1200lbs) getting 19-21mpg. Work's for me.
Exactly! I have a 2014 Silverado Z71 5.3 with 93,000 miles, I off road, often, I hot rod it, when I'm on the express way I averarge between 22 to 24 MPGs at 76 MPH with the AC on. Hauling two quad's I averarge 18.7 to 19 MPG at 74 MPH. I have NOT HAD ONE not ONE problem with it!!! You can't tell a Ford Guy. TH-cam Deboss garage why not Ford. TH-cam Car Wizard worse engine ever...the 98 we're damn good trucks!!
@@philllsxga.7737 I had a 2015 5.3L cylinder managed with nothing but problems. When I got rid of it with 65K miles it was burning 1 qt. of oil every 900 miles…. What did GM do during the warranty period when I started having issues?…. nothing. My other truck was a 6.0L Ford F-350 Diesel…..needless to say I don’t have to tell that story…..
@@johnhugon8305 Chevy is not perfect but overall they are a better engineered vehicle. I'm on my third Chevy, I off road them all, I've just done normal wear items. I keep them 6 to 10 year's and they have been my daily drivers. I've worked on them all. You are better off with a Chevy.
@@johnhugon8305 BULLSHIT. Your truck would have had a 100k mile powertrain warranty and GM has a TSB that covers every engine they've made in the last 15-20 years against oil consumption. They state that any engine that's suspected of using oil simply has to have an oil consumption test performed by an authorized dealer. If the oil consumption is more than 1 quart per 2,000 miles, the engine will be replaced or repairs at GM's cost. Why didn't you have them perform an oil consumption test?
The dealership I’m dealing with said the 2021 trucks have the 5.0 without all the issues. I’m assuming the pre 2018 motors. 2 people are currently waiting for their new 2021’s they are getting from the swap out deal Ford offered them. I’m on my last attempt with oil issues before I’m the next one to get a new truck. Funny thing is my rental they gave me last week is a 2020 with the 5.0 so I had to look, 2qts low on oil and has the rattle, OMG. Thanks for keeping us up to speed because I’m going through it as I’m typing this.
Why can’t those guys listen to the customer? Just sold my 2013 F150 with only 12K miles. Had to have the transmission lead frame replaced when it started shifting erratically. Got a Lexus. When I need a truck I’ll just rent one.
Yes. I went to the NHTSA website and my truck VIN was in that recall. I printed that out when my truck was shifting erratically and took it to my local Ford dealer. They claimed it was unrelated to my transmission lead frame needing replacement. The service representative claimed all they would do for the recall is to reprogram the transmission and that would do nothing to solve my problem. I was skeptical because a previous recall on 2013 F-150s also said they would replace the lead frame once in addition to reprogramming the transmission, if needed. Fortunately my CarMax extended warranty covered the cost of replacing the lead frame. Once I got the truck back from that service I drove it back to CarMax and sold it back to them. Then I took a Greyhound bus to my nearest Lexus dealer and got my ES350. No more Fords for me. Transmission failure at 13K miles is unacceptable.
@@thedustykeratometer8570 Looks like the previous owner did not take care of business. I worked at a Toyota dealership. The owner always had a 400 Series Lexus...because he said the 350 Lexus was 90% a Toyota Avalon. Great investment, Einstein.
@@chadhaire1711 You are very misinformed. Drive that E350 to a Toyota dealer and pull up by an Avalon. The same deal as a 2004 Buick LeSabre, Olds 88...same car. I admit I worked there about 12 years ago...maybe it has changed now. I haven't really looked at one in 5 years or so. They also had a Lexus version of the Highlander and 4 Runner.
Ford Corporate: We got their money what are they gonna do. Also Ford: *Buys out the Lawyers* Ford as Well: *Buys Out the Court and Jury* Might as well be every bit Corp out there
I was going to go buy a new 2019, but I think I will hold off. I can't imagine spending 65k on a truck that might have issues. Ford needs to bring those prices down.
Ford just may go out of business before too long. Doesn't seem like they've been able to build a good engine without major troubles for a lot of years now. Only the rich people who replace their cars every two years don't need to worry or care. Those who need to get their moneys worth should steer way clear of FORD.
I have a 2018 with the 2.7 that i got new.I had to take it back after two weeks, the dash would lose power, no lights,radio,back up cam. Dealer ship said the truck needed up dates.Had two take it back two weeks later for same problem,up dates again.Few months later transmission problem, after that 4 wheel drive. No help from the dealer, always same thing more up dates.Had to call ford corp, They asked me to take it to a different dealer ship. The new dealer had it for 2.5 hours, gave me a list of what parts they changed, so far so good very happy for now.
Jimmy Mcginnis I have almost the same problems with my 2017 2.7 ecoboost at 26k miles. In addition to that it stalls constantly after towing more than 80 to 100 mile then comes out of it 20 minutes later. Worst truck Iv ever owned.
I have a random radio not working issue but so far very rare to happen like 3 time sin 28K miles. I figured not worth the hassle as I plan to put in a Navigation unit and backup camera I have a 2016 F150 2.7L XL FX4 SC 6.5 bed. I have been happy so far with the truck, remember how many they make though.
I have a 2018 5.0, and I’ve had two separate rattling noise issues. First was cold start, step on gas, noise immediately after release. Sounded like dropping a heavy chain in the engine compartment. Ford TSB 18-2354 sort of fixed that, though when I picked it up it was just quieter, and a few thousand more miles in, I haven’t noticed it. Of course that was after three trips, getting “it’s totally normal,” and me having to find and demand the specific TSB number be done. The other noise is still a mystery... sounds like tinny metal rattling under transmission, but only at random times. Sounds exactly like a loose heat shield, but I can’t make it happen going over bumps or anything. Only seems to be accelerating or decelerating, and it happens whether it’s a sudden or slow acceleration or deceleration. Hoping it is heat shielding or something, not torque converter or transmission
I work at a Ford dealership service department and the 5.0 has been troublesome since 18. 3.5 ecoboost have had phaser issue since 17. But the little 2.7 is just about bulletproof. Plenty of power and no major problems
I have a Ford DLR nightmare for you. My 2017 Raptor with 20k on it started to make a pretty loud rattle noise under light acceleration , took it to the local DLR and 4 days after I called for status was told the phasers are making the noise, I was skeptical about this but.... they are the specialist right. Fast forward a MONTH later after numerous calls on my part was told the truck is ready. Made it to the DLR right before closing, get in my truck and soon as I left the parking lot made the exactly the same noise . Next morning extremely irritated I had the service manager and the “ master mechanic “ who worked on my truck to come with me for a test drive, the noise appears right away , the mechanic ( who by the way only works on SVT vehicles including the GT) asked me is this 4 wheel drive? Yes he did, after I confirmed that indeed the Raptor is a 4 wheel drive he asked me to pull over to the service drive, runs in to parts and comes back with 2” vacuum hose, opens the hood and 5 min. Later the truck is fixed.......... I was speechless, after 4 weeks and unnecessary engine repairs the problem was a vacuum which controls the front differential. Needless to say no one cared. Let me be clear I LOVE MY F150 I think is a wonderful truck but my next purchase will be different brand just because of service.
Woowww!!! That is a bad experience and the same with mine is pushing me away from Ford but I know it's just a shit dealership. Back home(not from OK) theres a Ford dealership that I used numerous times and they were always amazing.
:lol: I have that system on my 1996 Explorer, relays and a vacuum front axle break, was the last year for that for explorers (after that all had full time 4wd). The F series and expeditions kept it. They still use that system? Hope it didn't chew up the axle end.
I was kinda kicking myself for getting a 13 instead of a 15+ 5.0 but between the door freezing issue and now the rattle I'm starting to think I made the right decision. I bought it with 60k 2 years ago and now it has 90k and have only done basic maintenance to it. I also had a 12 EcoBoost like you and loved it but got offered more than I owed on it so I sold it. I almost bought a Tundra when I bought my 13 F150 but the mileage sucked compared to the 150 as did the dated interior. I'm considering going back to a diesel 3/4 ton next go round even though I really don't need one.
I have a clunking sound/feel with mine (2018 5.0). I have had the same experiences you had with yours. Getting the run-around at the Dealership. I also had different Managers ride with me and could hear the clunking sound. They flashed the transmission a couple of times, but that did not fix the issue. When I would drop it off, they would only keep it for a day or two and say they could not replicate issue. I was also told that since there was no warning codes, then there was nothing they could do about it. If there is not a code, then the truck is working to Fords specifications. Unfortunately, just because it makes noise or 'clunks' doesn't mean it's broken or nonconforming, so I am stuck.
Tsb 18-2306 is the glove box misaligned Tsb 18-2354 is for the rattle Tsb 19-2041 is for the dash warp Tsb 19-2058 is for oil consumption I dont know of any other TSB for the transmission other than just the reprogram. If u have any of those issues take those numbers to them and tell them it needs fixed.
Just FYI.I have owned 3 3.5 twin turbo ecoboost engines.First was a 2015 explorer sport 0 issues and traded it at around 70k.Bought a 2016 explorer sport which my wife still drives and there is 36k on it and again 0 issues with it.I run premium fuel and run full synthetic oil.I change the oil every 4K.I now have a 2019 Raptor for myself and LOVE the ecoboost motor.Only 500 miles on her but I can only hope it’s a great as the other ones I have owned.You won’t be sorry with the 3.5 twin turbo.good luck.
I have a 2016 F150 Lariat w/ 3.5 Ecoboost. Just turned over 10K miles. No engine problems yet. Runs just fine. But i did have the hard downshift from 5th to 4th. Had a TSB flash and it fixed it. Hadn't had a problem since.
Had a 2017 F150 5.0 with 39k miles. It had the idling problem. Would go dead when I came to a stop frequently. Other than that, It ran great. 100’s of others on the F150 forum all had the same issue and it turned out to be the VCT solenoids and cam phasers. I took it to ford 3 times and they still refused to change that stuff out. They would call me and say it was fixed each time, I’d get up there and it would literally go dead while Idling in their lot. I got sick of the issue so I traded it in on a Ram 2500 Cummins. Will never own another Ford.
I have the same issue with my 18 5.0 F150. Done it since mile 1. Had the software update done that addresses this noise, no luck, that was at about 4500 miles and I'm now at 7500 miles. Truck runs great, no performance issues at all. According to Ford it won't cause any damage, it just annoying. And it is. Supposedly it's caused by the VCT phaser duty cycle program when the engine is cold. I don't know. It didn't fix mine. It does completely go away when warm though so I don't worry about it. Love the engine though, thing hauls ass especially when running E85. She's a runner!
My rattle didnt start until at least 3000miles and it was only when cold but like I said in the video it did it fully warm at the dealership Monday with 9000mi.
If you do a build, be sure to stay in contact with your salesman weekly. They told me it would be about 8 weeks. Eight weeks rolls by, no truck but it's in the process. Week number 10 rolled around and then I was told that Ford finally accepted the order and I would have my truck in approximately 3 weeks. Get on their nerves and stay there once you place that order.
I have a 17 2.7 ecoboost and haven’t had any issues yet, but the end of my warranty is rolling up soon. At least the 3 year part of it. I want to get a 3.5 or 5.0 next run but man there’s so many videos with people having issues with them that it’s scaring me off.
Just had the flash from the TSB for the throttle let off rattle done today and the sound is gone. 2018 5.0 2k miles. However im rather skeptical it will last as ive heard almost no ones vehicle has been fixed of the rattle through the flash update.
I have the 5.0 v8 2017 with the six-speed transmission. I picked that truck to exact specs on purpose. So far I had zero issues. Good luck with your issue I know it can be a pain in the rear!
The last ford motor worth a damn had pushrods and a cam in the block as a truck should. I will say Toyota and Nissan with the 5.7 and 5.6 seem to jve the overhead cam v8s figured out pretty well but ford ever since the 5.4 has been plagued wth cam phaser issues, back ticking noises, timing chain tensioners, spark plugs coming out of the heads, spark plugs getting stuck in the heads, warped manifolds... They are great trucks overall but the engines are their Achilles heel.
Toyota has had plenty of problems with their VVT systems on their OHC V8's. They're also known for piston slap issues. The 5.6 Nissan is using now was heavily redesigned and isn't proven. The previous 5.6 is known for timing chain problems.
Your story sounds all to familiar. My 2017 ecoboost had the same problem, went through updates and finally the timing chains and camphasers were replaced with no fix. I remember the ford mechanic called me at one point and even explained that he was instructed by ford to deactivate the camphaser selonoids which actually made the sound go away but we both agreed it was dishonest on not a good fix. I really believe ford has either camphaser or oil pressure problems with both of these engines. I was in the same position you are in about getting a new truck. In the end ford bought the truck back and I ended up with a 2017 powerstroke which has been flawless and surprisingly gets the same gas mileage. Good luck.
If they did change items to address the issues on the 2018 models they probably would not announce it. As I noted before I traded out of my 2018 5.0 and went back to a 2016 5.0 with the 6spd transmission. I could tired of chasing the dealers / service departments. Took a hit on the trade in, but peace of mind (so far) on the shifting, rattle, jerking, etc.
The loaner I had this past week was a 19 2.7 and it was great! It already had all but 2000mi on it with no issues which is definitely a step up since mine had it at 500mi. Cannot wait for the replacement and fingers crossed no issues!!
There is no such thing as consumer protection anymore and manufacturers are doing whatever they can to stall and duck warranties, hoping they can stall until the warranty runs out. It is no coincidence that warranty periods have decreased in recent years even as the cost of these mobile junk piles has sky rocketed.
@@johnstrand2247 you're right John. They're all after the consumer. You're on you're own. These truck aren't cheap and you feel ripped off when even the manufacturer is unable or unwilling to fix the vehicle. Let's rape the consumer.
I have a 2018 F150 XLT FX4 with 5.0. When I start my vehicle (never at a cold start), I hear a clunk sound. Sometimes loud, sometimes soft. It usually happens after I've been driving around, vehicle warm, park somewhere, turn it off. When I turn it back on, "CLUNK." Told my dealer about this, I was told that the "clunk" sound was normal. To me, that clunk sound I hear at startup sounds like something is breaking. I don't really know who to trust anymore.
I always been an American Ford guy buuuuuuut the Tundra is the truck that has most of its parts made in America compared to other companies and they easily last 300K miles 5.7L V8
I got 2018 and 2015 3.5 eco nothing but love .Change oil every 5,000 miles.Had recall or tsb to reflash pcm to take care of that,cam phazer on cost down after excel.Sorry your having problems with your truck,get with Ford hotline .2 gen not supposed to have rattle problems.
I'm on my second Silverado my first i sold it with 268,000 miles with only a rear end rebuild. I just upgraded to a 3/4 ton Silverado 6.0 it has 110,000 zero issues and I towed with both 7500 lbs...
I had a 2015 and 2017 Zaza F150. Both with 2.7 ecoboost. I traded in the 2015 for a 2017 brand new. The 2015 was a xlt with the 301 package. I found that I like the 2.7 and 6speed trans but wanted the 302A package so I traded up to a new 2017 xlt with the 302A package. That was a mistake. Even with the drive train was the same specs, the 2017 had less power. More rattle noise and It blew out blue smoke when you do a cold start. The did a oil consumption test. It did not use oil. Here is the crazy thing it actually made oil. And of course I had to break a arm at the dealership to get them to look at it. After two visits my wife and I could tell where this situation was going. Nowhere. So I traded it in on a used 2018 F150 Platinum with the 5.0, Mistake #2. It is using oil with no leaks. About a quart every 1500 miles. After researching this I found out that Ford doing a pcm reprogram, changing the oil filter and oil along with putting a new dipstick in it that will trick people into thinking it is not burning that much more oil anymore. I have not had the vvt rattle noise or trans issue yet. Really nice truck but Ford needs to get there $hit together. I like the chassis and body but there engine and trans sucks. The money that people pay for this is a loss. I should have bought a ram or chevy. Please if you are ready this don't buy a Ford. Pick something else. You will thank me later on.
@Tony Melo You people and the continous towing Bs. Listen bud, i do tow. Ever seen a 1500 truck pulling 15,000lbs? I have done it many times and do not care to do it again. Injectors take a long ehile before they cause issue. Majority issues come from the emission BS which needs to be removed. The other diesel we own, yes we own 2 of them, is gone ove rhalf the year with a 1/2 capable 9000lbs camper behind it majority of te time. My truck tows a tractor every now and then. Being that im in cattle/ranch work and getting into land development, rather have the vehicle to last a while than one causing issues. It might tow 1/4 of its entire life of my ownership but thats plenty. Frankly i dont want to put a 40ft gooseneck on a 1500 again. Diesles last way longer than a gas. They hold their value way stronger too. In 5 years time my truck will still be in the $55k mark while many gas trucks are pushing the mid 20s from the orginal 50k tag. You buy a diesel for the value you get not just the towing aspec. I know many guys who are in trucking and wanted to get the pete 389 with the 72in high bunk. Turns out the flat top holds its value more so they just deal with the lower cabin. Money talks in the end. Bullshit never ends up anywhere.
@Tony Melo I will agai. repeat myself. Diesels do get 500k miles without issues. The catch is, they are not running emission equpiment. I know many 300k mile trucks without issue and still "stock". Trucks with emissions wont last but 150k before problems arrise.
Seriously man, Just pursue your state's Lemon Law. I had mine bought back last month from FoMoCo. I still love the look of Ford trucks, but after losing money on mine, I don't think I can go back to Ford. If anything ill look into the super duty 6.2 which isn't having any of these problems
I spoke too soon, I was on the super duty forums last night and about 5 or 6 members with the 6.2 had their engines replaced since 2017 for shards of metal in their oil.. What the fuck is going on with Ford. @@chrisbarrientez7242
@@NL-in6uj I have no idea but I did have a gt350 trans and engine went out before 7k miles and I babied the car and I traded that off for a 2018 5.0 and so far so good at 5k miles lol
@@rb3tactical145 na i rather build the engine for 6k and have a 1000+ hp fucking beast lol it's not just about the brand but the story and memories behind a vehicle
not really. ya just get a different set of problems. Some folks are lucky, some are not. It stinks to hear about the 3.5 and 5.0 having issues. We want to get the wife a 5.0, but might have to hold off longer... smh.. she currently has the 2.7TT in her Edge and it has been great over the last 20k.
guess I spoke to quickly and didn't specify... Diesel issues (cause I honestly don't know anything about the Big V8s that Ford puts out) since I usually think Powerstroke when someone says 3/4ton or bigger.but for Diesels...injector issues, Emissions problems up the wazoo (that's the biggie - something I worry about big time), fuel gelling (already had that happen once - not fun)
Wow that really sucks man i have a 18 5.0L platinum with 77k on it no issues build date on mine is November bought it in December 15th order it on october it does need about half quart of oil every 4k miles tho but no thicking
Sorry about your situation here and it is not just Ford. We have a serious lack of consumer protection now and warranties are being ignored, stalling tactics employed until the shorter warranty runs out. I just went through it with Jeep and once you do, you never want the brand again. Notice how warranties have got shorter even as the vehicles now approach the cost of a house?
Agreed. New turbo-$3500. New diesel regenerating exhaust system $?$$!. Far fewer user serviceable parts, much more complicated overall. And as long as it's lasting to the warranty period, that's a win for the manufacturer. But when it's that expensive, shouldn't you expect better ?
Hope all is going well with the truck. I mentioned earlier about my AC having issues. I gave up on my 17 5.0 with 22k miles. Multiple trips to the service dept. and multiple parts changed. It still freezes up and stops blowing air occasionally while driving after 15 min or so. Summer is not even here yet! They say it's fixed, and tell me if I drop it off that I will be responsible for the loaner if they can't diagnose anything. My truck is babied and is a driveway queen(I have a work van for daily). Royal Purple full synthetic oil and all. Too soon to start treating me like this.
As a royal purple user I would drop the oil overall, I will use it in certain applications. Just get Pennzoil Platinum ultra or a good synthetic oil, even Walmart Supertech synthetic is DexOS Gen 2 and SN Plus certified. I would only go 7500 miles per change personally but that's highway mostly. In cold flow test Pennzoil Platinum Ultra even did better than Amsoil.
William Ste Croix yeah it sucks. I noticed that I feel the vibrations more when my steering wheel is extended. I pushed the steering wheel all the way back in and it helped
I agree with you that you want to get the 3.5 EcoBoost. I had the 2.7 EcoBoost and couldn’t be happier with it. Great MPG, performance, and reliable. I had to trade it with GMC Sierra HD because I tow heavy camper. I really miss it so much. Thank for your service brother may God continue to bless you and your family.
We had a an issue with brand new 2019. It took a while to figure out what was causing it. Turned out it was minor. But in the mean time the dealer and Ford were great! We did end up with a buy back and got new truck.
Im in the same boat I have a 3.3l as a loaner and it's the forgot child and has no strange noises and just works. If I get a buy back approved I might just go with that
The 1 flaw. On those duratec v6 is chain drivinwater pump,when it fails, she leaks coolant from pump housing then timing cover then into the oil pan. NOW (your fucked). Change it early, then you'll get 500,000mile from that engine.
Touch wood I haven't had any problems with mine yet, even cold starts with getting into -20°c here in BC. I've got the 2.7l 2018, hopefully all this shit gets sorted for you.
Had 3.5EB in a new 2011 F150. Timing chain rattle on cold startup...Ford wouldn't fix it even though they could replicate the noise. Got rid of the truck and picked up a 2014 RAM. Had to get rid of the Ram too, not for the engine but all the other stuff it had going wrong and tons of recalls. Currently dont have a truck and it's sad. Way too many problems with these super expensive trucks. Call me crazy but for the price of these new trucks I expect them to be trouble free.
I’ve owned my 2018 lariat 5.0 f150 for a year and half. I have been dealing with the deceleration issue the entire ownership. It’s been in the shop now six times trying to fix it. The TSB doesn’t work now the ford engineering is involved. I have had the oil consumption issue and they replaced the motor and now after another 10k miles while in for the rattle they notice it’s going through oil again and are replacing the motor again! I have had transmission rattle which now finally was fixed, ac leaks, radio freezing, and sunroof break and rattle issues. It’s seriously beyond ridiculous. The truck has 28k miles and it’s been in the shop 15 times
Just get a Chevrolet Silverado 5.3 No Turbo worries. I bought mine used with 20,000 miles. I now have 67,000. It was 2 years old when I bought mine LT Z71 for $30,000.00 . I just change oil, filters, and got new defender tires. I also have the lifetime powertrain warranty. I had an 84 F150 with the inline 6. I loved that engine. For most people that would be a great engine. Imagine that engine with a 10 automatic transmission. I had the 4 speed manual with the really low 1st gear stick. Great memories and reliability.
The reason for vehicles are so expensive it’s not because they’re better quality it’s because you’re essentially buying $10,000 worth of insurance with every vehicle because it’s certain to break down and four will have to pay the dealership for repairs no one seems to get this. And yes that is a ridiculous price for an expedition I have an 04 DeRego 57 hemi and it will tow more than your expedition valued at $3000 and has 260,000 miles on it never been repaired, recalled ,or even been to the dealership.
The first gen Expedition was the true solid Expedition from 97-02. Solid rear axle a V8 and body on frame. We towed a 10k dump trailer with it didn't break a sweat, suspension was slammed though. I still see plenty of these Expedition on the road
These issues are few and far between, whatever engine you choose next I'm sure you wont have issues again. Im still driving a 2011 3.5L Ecoboost I bought new, now it has over 150,000 miles and has had 0 issues.
The 2011 3.5EB has a different style timing chain from the 2012 and newer 3.5EB engines. That's why your engine is lasting. The 2012 and up engines use a cheap junk inverted tooth timing chain that wears out way faster. Ford wanted to save money and use a quieter timing chain.
Ford used to make a good 1/2 ton truck but not so much anymore. I had a 2007 & 2008 F-150 they were flawless. Now they make junk! I now have a Ram 2500 & couldn’t be happier!
Not exactly flawless. My 2007 went through 2 ac units, 4wd hubs, the 4wd vacuum solenoid, steering shaft, rear discs in the limited slip, fuel pump module, passenger side exhaust manifold, and power steering pump. It just turned 100K and I drive like a granny with some light towing once in a while (about 3000lbs). I also meticulously maintain it myself. Most of these are all known problems with those years of the truck. Luckily most happened in the first 3-4 years of ownership and I had the extended warranty. Its never left me stranded though and I still love the truck enough that I bought a 2019 f250 and still drive the 150 mostly because it rides better (and so I don't load the winter road salt up on the new truck).
Sorry that sucks. A lot of dealerships not just Ford have a lot to be desired. I own a business I buy a lot of trucks I've been lucky i have a really good dealership I work with. I've got a few F150s with the 5.0 and I haven't had any issues with them not yet anyways. For me they have been a great motor unfortunately there's going to be a bad one here and there. I had a 2016 Cadillac CTS-V I had to have the supercharger the transmission and the rear end replaced GM finally bought it back from me and I bought another CTS-V and haven't had any issues with it at all. So i understand not wanting to get another 5.0 but the next one maybe great. I hope everything works out good luck
Couldn't agree more with everything you said and that's exactly why if it comes to them buying it back I'll get another Ford, it may not have any problems.
@@WICKEDAUTO1 that's exactly right not every engine is going to be bad I get a kick out of these guys that act like Chevys and Rams and Toyotas and Nissan's don't have issues trust me they all do. humans and machines make Vehicles so unfortunately humans aren't perfect.
I've been a Ford owner for nearly 10 years of a 2007 F-150 with the 5.4. Been reliable every mile of that time (thankfully). HOWEVER, it will be the only F-150 I will ever own, unless I buy an OBS with a Windsor V8. The new Ford's are junk. Plain and simple. Door latches freezing. 10 speed transmission issues. 5.0 engines knocking and clattering. Ridiculous. Friend of mine is experiencing EVERY single on of those issues I just mentioned on his '18 5.0, plus it's burning oil at an alarming rate and they keep refusing to fix it. Ford is horrible now and I wouldn't even touch one. If I buy new: Toyota, HERE I COME!
LOL good luck. My Tundra as a massive piece of shit. Total junk from the rear axle, to the rust rotting flimsy frame, to the junk 5.7 that leaked oil and needed a water pump, starter, and power steering pump by 80k miles. Piston slapped every morning and smelled like burning oil when it warmed up.
@@hochhaul Sorry to hear that. My family has owned many Toyota's. Several Tundra's (older 4.7 engines), as well as Tacoma's and currently a 4Runner. Never a problem with any of them. I was an idiot who wanted to try something different and went to a Ford. but thank God it didn't blow up in my face. Lemons can come from pretty much any company, but Toyota's rep for reliability is still far better than Ford. My Dad has a 2016 5.0 and if it gets below 30, his door likes to fly open in a curve because the door latches freeze and Ford doesn't care to fix the problem and plus my friend with his knock clattering oil burning '18 5.0. At this point, even though personally I've had a good experience with my F-150, I'm just fed up with domestic products and seeing all the problems they are having (particularly Ford trucks) and just going to avoid them all together.
Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
Delete this video and hire a lemon law attorney! I am going through exactly what you are going through with a 2018 5.0. Exactly! This is my second F150 in the last 3 years. My 2015 with 2.7 was bought back but only after a hard-fought battle with Ford through the Lemon Law with an attorney. I am close to my 30 days out of service and my problem still exists. This is not a good time to own a Ford
Suddenly those 2009 - 2010 5.4 3v's aren't looking so bad. If you can get one with low enough mileage you should be able to push off the timing system work considerably by nothing more than faithful oil changes at the correct intervals. That and your only paying $10K for a truck instead of $40K
My 150 2019 3.5th cold start diesel rattle since the last cold snap. Its had all the tsb’s, each time louder ticking until a few weeks ago. This time I recorded it on my phone plus the shitty 10speed shift like a brick banger. 55k miles at the dealer for phasers? and they say months out for transmission rebuilding!
I had an issue with my 2018 with 2.7 at a dealership here in ohio. They were refusing to fix a brand new truck under warranty with a freezing door latch. It wouldnt latch in the cold. They would tell me they couldnt fix it if they couldnt replicate it. I filed a complaint with the nhtsa, and called the corporate customer service. Long story short the regional corporate person must have called the service department. They fixed the latch and what do you know the problem went away. Corporate called me back and gave me a free extended bumper to bumper warranty. Keep calling corporate my friend.
I had 2017 ram big horn 5.7 on lease prior with about 30k no issues. My dad wanted it so bad so I signed it over to him. Wish I would have been patient and just got the ram rebel I wanted.
The door latch freezes because water gets in on the wrong side of the door panel. Ford has a fix for it . They pulled the black plugs on the bottom of the door panel out on my 2017 3.5 eco and 3 to 4 inches of water came out of all 4 doors. They had to completely remove the guts on all , put in their rain guards and clean out all the panels. I had a slight musky smell that I couldn't pin point. Know where it was coming from now
I had the same off throttle rattle and typewriter tick with my 2018 5.0, along with plenty of CEL issues to do with VCT solenoids, and absolutely laughable fuel mileage. I ended up having the lease taken over and got a 2019 3.5. So far so good. Lots more power and no rattling or weird engine noise, and the mileage has been fantastic.
Dude its never a waste to film a newer year model truck man. Hand me the Key's and I'll kick out a sweet ass video here on my channel! Good luck with your issues and hope it all works out! Like, comment and subscribe!
Dang that sucks. I feel your frustration with the dealer. My 2017 5.0 makes no noise, but the AC lines froze up and stopped blowing air. I took it in and showed the service advisor. They replaced a relay, and said it's good to go. 5 minutes after picking it up, it froze up again. Unless the shop foreman physically comes out to verify what is wrong, it will always be the same answer from them..."we started it. We experienced no issues but we went ahead and changed some "parts". Yes, I requested the lead technician come experience what it is doing. Service advisors and managers don't know shit. They think they do, kind of like the guys at autozone. Besides the 10 speed, what is different from 2018 and up 5.0? Good luck man.
I believe exactly what you said is the issue at this dealership. It is beyond frustrating! Well they did their "update" on the 5.0 in 2018 for more hp and torque. It's now dual injected..both direct and port.
WickedF150 Biggest cause of issues with 18 and up 5.0 is the cylinder walls, they went away from a traditional cast iron liner in the block and went with a thin wall treatment to save weight and supposedly add durability. The 18 is also 12:1 compression. Some have been dropping valves as well for some reason.
I had a loaner last month the had 189 miles when I got it and 1798 when I dropped it off two weeks later. lol My 19 f250 was in because of a wet wiring harness causing terrible problems. Half way to a lemon already lol
Ugh, I feel you man. I was hoping you would be able to get everything worked out but this whole ordeal just sounds like what I went through from day one with the '18 Canyon. Lost the lottery and ended up with just about every issue possible with the truck, and a dealership that dragged their feet and flaunted their total incompetence at every turn. They kept my truck for 27 days for a trans TSB, which I had to shove in their face to prove it existed. Word of advice: if they do it to you again and keep your truck for a month without updates or any actual work, then you have to escalate. I thought to be nice to them and give them a benefit of a doubt; they don't give a fuck. You have to get on their nerves as much as they've gotten on yours and get Corporate on the line. After everything is resolved, find another dealer.
So a year ago I bought a 2017 F150 5.0 with 30,000 miles. It started making a tick noise a week having it and I had to have the intake replaced. A year later I'm dealing with 4 Ford dealerships that looked at my truck don't know what it is....and won't return phone calls. One day out of no where GPS and other features quit working. They tested absolutely everything and don't know what it is. It's been a week since I was at a dealer and still no return phone call. In secret menu it says "jammer on" 🤷♂️ idk what to do....a little irritated
Im glad i bought a 2017 xlt coyote crew cab regular 4x4. Good ol six speed with all the kinks worked out. I always due that when buying vehicles i like to buy in certain cases the last year before redesign when they finally get all the kinks worked out. I hope the 10 speed ends up being a great transmission but anything that has to do with collaboration and chevrolet that's a red flag for me. Lately Chevrolet has not been my favorite in terms of reliability issues. I don't like the new cylinder deactivation it just seems that there has been quite a few issues with that complicated system. That's why i bought a 17 coyote (there were 2018's on the lot) because it didn't have the 10 speed and i dont trust the ecoboost those super high pressure fuel injectors and those turbos I'm not a fan. Idk just my opinion.
You had better luck then me. I have 92K on my 2011 f150 5.0 the Ford dealership took 5 months to find the problem and after ESP and Ford tech hotline finally said replace the motor they should of done that. When they found metal shaving, wrapped head and block. It crazy I told them how to make they said 5 times and after a year the finally did something about it
My previous Ford truck had an axle issue only when driven at least 10 miles. Spent 6 weeks total at dealer. Turned out they were checking it cold even thought they knew it only happened when warm. I had it towed to another dealer who fixed a small part in a a day for cheap. GO TO ANOTHER DEALER! You do not have to have a car serviced at the dealer you bought it from!
I had a 2015 GMC slt ,sierra ,crew cab. It was a piece of junk ! My father had a 2014 Chevy 2500 diesel Silverado. It broke down after 2 years. The warranty paid $8k to repair the engine. So my father and me got rid of both gm trucks. We bought 2 used gm trucks . A 2003 s10 and a 2006 Chevy Silverado 1500. Both trucks have zero issues. All newer trucks are full of issues and problems.
Seriously... did we ever see vehicles have these kinds of issues right out of the gate 15 or 20 years ago? I'm sure you did, to some extend... but it sure feels like its a good 10 times worse today. The kicker is that some brands down right SUCK at making good on what is essentially their bad. Ford seems to be terrible at it.
This is the reason why Im afraid to buy a Ford. It's not the issue's that comes with it but it's the dealership. Failure to acknowledge or admit the problems. Always giving a run around and the delays. It's beautiful truck and drives really nice. Just wish they have better customer service.
Ford had my 2016 F150 Sport, 2.7eb for about 60 days last year. I had both terrible and outstanding customer service and support from the same dealership. Truck is finally fixed, mostly. My 2010 was in the shop 5 times but the dealer only billed ford proper 3 times so they denied my lemon law case. If Ford doesn’t show up you can’t point out the problem to the mediator because they’re not there to defend themselves- total BS Good luck to you Sir.
I have stethoscoped the engine during the noise and the noise is the loudest from the exhaust phaser solenoid. It does sound like a chain rattle but you can put your hand on the top of the exhaust phaser solenoids on both sides and feel it hammer when it makes the noise. I think possibly the solenoids are being over worked.
@@WICKEDAUTO1 yeah im afraid we are going to have to wait a while before there are some revised parts. Will probably take ford years to update the TSB on the issue. Until then dealers are going to throw parts at it. Im just going to drive mine until something new happens.
*Long Post* Not sure if this helps but I took my 2018 5.0 in in with similar issues. They did three TSBs on it. TSB-2354 (for the rattle). Supposedly, they said some noise is characteristic for that motor, I'm not sure how true that is. I can still hear the rattle on deceleration but not as much. TSB 18-2058 for a check engine light that read a misfire. And TSB-2273 for some other rattle that they heard. I was told theres a solenoid valve that disengages early which causes the rattle that I hear so the reprogram causes it to stay engaged longer to prevent the noise from becoming obtrusive. So other than the slight rattle I still hear on deceleration, everything is fine so far. This was Sheehy Ford of Midlothian, VA
Yea the tsb for the rattle they put out last year, mine had it done months ago and it didnt change anything. In the dealership parking lot it was rattling loud as ever. I am glad to hear yours helped somewhat!
@@WICKEDAUTO1 yea somewhat, but we'll see how it goes. Do you know if it's true that some rattling is normal with the V8s or is someone just blowing smoke up my a**?
@@tiger2q the actual rattling, like when you let off the gas is not normal by any means. That's why Ford put out the tsb...first just a program update and now if that doesnt work, replace cam phasers n vct solenoids
@@WICKEDAUTO1 because they literally wrote on my service report: some "rattle" is characteristic for this engine package. So what you're telling me is, I shouldnt hear any rattle at all, and if I do get them to replace the cam phaser and vct solenoids?
@@tiger2q yes, the TSB is 18-2354. My dealership just gave me an update yesterday saying that they did look at the TSB again and are starting the tear down Monday to replace those things based on what the TSB says.
Going through the same thing with Ford, feel your pain sir. I have a 2019 F250 that leaks massive amounts of water in the cab every time it rains or it’s washed. Bought it in January 2019, I’m my possession for maybe 10 days, in shop remainder of time. Just got Ford to approve lemon law last Wednesday, more than 30 days out of service. Wanted to replace but based on how I was treated at dealer and by Ford I’m leaving the brand.
My dealer told me this was a Ford issue and they would not risk financial loss for Ford motor company. They only buy and resell is what I was told. Also strong armed me to bring loaner back. Said I had it too long, my fault I guess. The entire situation is crap.
Just starting lemon law, but already starting to see Ford posturing on what they will and will not compensate me for. I feel like I’m going to lose money on this even though its a Ford issue. The truck has a whopping 190 miles on it. Will update on the buy back process as it evolves this week. I’m ready to be finished after 8 weeks of arguing to push ford and Ford of Port Richey FL to honor the quality of a $71k (full sticker retail) truck. Buyer beware.
Sick, just sick. Spend the better part of $100K on a truck and get shit on. What a world we live in these days. Your a FORD dealership yet you won't stand behind the products you sell. What a joke. That dealership should have let you keep that loaner as long as you damn well wanted / need and kissed your ass on top of it.
There are days I look out at my old 08 RAM 1500 5.7 and think the old girl is getting a bit tired at 240,000 miles... but I'll be damned if it doesn't start right up and run like a top. I paid $4,800 for the truck about a year and a half ago. At this rate, I'll be keeping it another five or six years and for sure won't be buying a FORD truck when I do get another one.
The sad part? I actually like the look of the truck, I like what you get for the money. I'd be a potential buyer. But knowing what I do about how horrible they are in terms of customer service and the problems with the 3.5's and 5.0's.... never. I'm temped to just rebuild the hemi in my truck and throw on a rebuilt tranny and just run it until the body rots off.... I think I'd be way further ahead.
I live in farm country and their is a 35 year Ford dealer that serviced the farms, loggers, resort vehicles and residents in the area. The eco boost was the start of their demise along with aluminum body panels. Their pretty but they don't hold up to people and businesses using them as a truck. It seems the new choice for the locals has been Ram trucks. Haven't heard complaints yet. The start stop on mine I believe killed it. Ever collect bales of hay for 10 hours pulling a hay wagon. It was in for service every couple weeks. I decided to try a Nissan Titan. No issues at all yet. The local Ford dealership has a overflowing lot of new trucks, even 2018's. Maybe they have what your looking for.
You can Disable Auto Start/Stop
I just took my 2018 5.0 in this week for the new updated tsb you mentioned for the rattle and also the CEL was on for a camshaft position sensor. 7k miles. Bought the truck in January of 2018 and first noticed it around spring time when I had the windows down. Progressively it got louder and rattled for a longer time. Before I took it in I was timing it anywhere between 1.5 and 3 seconds of rattle. Now that the tsb was done it’s still there, but much much quieter and just a split second. I told them about the tsb 18-2354, but they did 18-2360, which I’m guessing is the new once since they did the phasers and solenoids. Other than that, the truck has been great the last 14 months
I’d just be worried about overall wear.. idk I was dead set on a 5.0 ended up with a 2.7 because of reported issues. I wouldn’t keep it out of warranty but that’s just me. Flood ford sells factory warranties dirt cheap online.
I feel for you! The dealership I am dealing with on a oil consumption issue on a 2018 Ford F-150 5.0L is giving all kinds of excuses and the run around and up to this point will not stand behind there product that we bought from them. It uses 1 quart of oil every 700 miles! Do not buy a F150!!!!!!!!
No matter what! The F150 will always be #1 selling Truck in America!
They replaced my motor already and it’s still going through oil just not as much and now they are replacing it again! Truck has 28k miles on it
It's funny when the customer knows more than the service manager and mechanic
Done...traded in on Magnetic 19 f250 XLT 4x4 w/ FX4 PKG ccsb 6.2l gas....KILLER deal! Mpg will suffer, but no ticks or chain slap!
how much did you get off the truck?
@@brandonrodriguez9551 After the trade-in and extended service plan AND taxes I got the 2019 F250 XLT CCSB well equipped for $43-$44k...picking up the truck on Tuesday after Sprayun liner, Premier Defence protection package and added NAV....very happy so far!
@@brandonrodriguez9551 Sticker price was $54700, before taxes and ext service got it for 39900
I presently own a 2013 F150 Lariat. I bought it new. It presently has 41,000 miles on it. It has been making moaning type sounds from the transmission ever since I bought it. Due to the dealer not being able to “replicate” the sounds, I have been forced to live with it. I know Ford knows that this is an issue with some of their trucks, because they have issued a service bulletin on it. They just don’t want to stand behind their product. I know how it feels and am sorry you are having to deal with dishonest people who ,to protect themselves, try to make you feel and look like the problem.
It is the Cam Phasers going bad. They replaced my cam phasers, timing belt, gaskets and numerous other parts. Along with full oil change to drain any shavings. Took me finding the right dealership to get it done.
I have a 2018 SCREW STX 2.7 and added an Airaid CAI and Dual Flowmaster Catback Exhaust and am reading on Torque Pro app at 401HP and 480lb torque and I Love it! 25mpg average with mostly highway driving and plenty of power. Good luck.
Going through very similar process with my 18' 3.5 Screw XLT...same noise and possible short block...will let you know!
How’d you make out? Just wondering?
@@snipert6841 Ford said no to buy back, dealership was VERY good to me after I sent email to owner. Ended up getting 2019 F250 XLT 6.2l gas. CCSB 4x4. Lots of goodies. They gave me $34800 for my 18 F150. Love the 250!
My 2015 2.7 ecoboost had no problems.....great truck with plenty of power and torque.
Oh, by the way, Wicked F-150, that metal hitting metal sound on start up is the yoke slamming. I recorded it. It will do it damn near 100% of the time of you park the truck on a grade and apply emergency break. It will slam on the next start up. It doesn’t look too earth shattering when you actually see it but damn it sounds like the drive shaft is gonna torque itself right off.
I have a 2.7L it has plenty of power off the line and pass people fast *shrug* So far no engine issues I have a video on a radio randomly not working issue, I'm not overly concerned as I plan to upgrade the stereo and install a Navigation and rear camera once I'm out of warranty. Nice on a trip hauling 4 motorcycles (3 in the bed and one on a hitch carrier so around 1200lbs) getting 19-21mpg. Work's for me.
Sounds like I better keep my 98 Chevy. Stay away from new of any brand.
Exactly! I have a 2014 Silverado Z71 5.3 with 93,000 miles, I off road, often, I hot rod it, when I'm on the express way I averarge between 22 to 24 MPGs at 76 MPH with the AC on. Hauling two quad's I averarge 18.7 to 19 MPG at 74 MPH. I have NOT HAD ONE not ONE problem with it!!! You can't tell a Ford Guy.
TH-cam Deboss garage why not Ford.
TH-cam Car Wizard worse engine ever...the 98 we're damn good trucks!!
@@philllsxga.7737 I had a 2015 5.3L cylinder managed with nothing but problems. When I got rid of it with 65K miles it was burning 1 qt. of oil every 900 miles…. What did GM do during the warranty period when I started having issues?…. nothing. My other truck was a 6.0L Ford F-350 Diesel…..needless to say I don’t have to tell that story…..
@@johnhugon8305 Chevy is not perfect but overall they are a better engineered vehicle.
I'm on my third Chevy, I off road them all, I've just done normal wear items. I keep them 6 to 10 year's and they have been my daily drivers.
I've worked on them all. You are better off with a Chevy.
@@johnhugon8305 BULLSHIT. Your truck would have had a 100k mile powertrain warranty and GM has a TSB that covers every engine they've made in the last 15-20 years against oil consumption. They state that any engine that's suspected of using oil simply has to have an oil consumption test performed by an authorized dealer. If the oil consumption is more than 1 quart per 2,000 miles, the engine will be replaced or repairs at GM's cost. Why didn't you have them perform an oil consumption test?
They produce 1300 of trucks a day...it's not that wide of a problem.
The dealership I’m dealing with said the 2021 trucks have the 5.0 without all the issues. I’m assuming the pre 2018 motors. 2 people are currently waiting for their new 2021’s they are getting from the swap out deal Ford offered them. I’m on my last attempt with oil issues before I’m the next one to get a new truck. Funny thing is my rental they gave me last week is a 2020 with the 5.0 so I had to look, 2qts low on oil and has the rattle, OMG. Thanks for keeping us up to speed because I’m going through it as I’m typing this.
Why can’t those guys listen to the customer? Just sold my 2013 F150 with only 12K miles. Had to have the transmission lead frame replaced when it started shifting erratically. Got a Lexus. When I need a truck I’ll just rent one.
I'm hard pressed to believe that there were no issues while it was under warranty. Not with that mileage.
Yes. I went to the NHTSA website and my truck VIN was in that recall. I printed that out when my truck was shifting erratically and took it to my local Ford dealer. They claimed it was unrelated to my transmission lead frame needing replacement. The service representative claimed all they would do for the recall is to reprogram the transmission and that would do nothing to solve my problem. I was skeptical because a previous recall on 2013 F-150s also said they would replace the lead frame once in addition to reprogramming the transmission, if needed. Fortunately my CarMax extended warranty covered the cost of replacing the lead frame. Once I got the truck back from that service I drove it back to CarMax and sold it back to them. Then I took a Greyhound bus to my nearest Lexus dealer and got my ES350. No more Fords for me. Transmission failure at 13K miles is unacceptable.
@@thedustykeratometer8570 Looks like the previous owner did not take care of business. I worked at a Toyota dealership. The owner always had a 400 Series Lexus...because he said the 350 Lexus was 90% a Toyota Avalon.
Great investment, Einstein.
@@michaelcook768 COOK: The Lexus E350 is NOT 90% Avalon--The only thing you did at a Toyota dealer was a janitor.
@@chadhaire1711 You are very misinformed. Drive that E350 to a Toyota dealer and pull up by an Avalon. The same deal as a 2004 Buick LeSabre, Olds 88...same car.
I admit I worked there about 12 years ago...maybe it has changed now. I haven't really looked at one in 5 years or so. They also had a Lexus version of the Highlander and 4 Runner.
Ford definitely needs to improve on Customer service big time.
Expecially when u are paying 40k to 70k and more on their trucks and suvs.
Ford Corporate: We got their money what are they gonna do.
Also Ford: *Buys out the Lawyers*
Ford as Well: *Buys Out the Court and Jury*
Might as well be every bit Corp out there
Customer Service with any brand isn’t what it was 30 years ago. It’s hard to find.
I was going to go buy a new 2019, but I think I will hold off. I can't imagine spending 65k on a truck that might have issues. Ford needs to bring those prices down.
or buy a Toyota
Ford just may go out of business before too long. Doesn't seem like they've been able to build a good engine without major troubles for a lot of years now. Only the rich people who replace their cars every two years don't need to worry or care. Those who need to get their moneys worth should steer way clear of FORD.
@@brandonkick The Nissan Titan has a 10 year 100,000 miles warranty and big discounts like Dodge.
@@chadhaire1711 ithink it's 5 year
@@patriciolongshore5889 not the diesel anyway
I have a 2018 with the 2.7 that i got new.I had to take it back after two weeks, the dash would lose power, no lights,radio,back up cam. Dealer ship said the truck needed up dates.Had two take it back two weeks later for same problem,up dates again.Few months later transmission problem, after that 4 wheel drive. No help from the dealer, always same thing more up dates.Had to call ford corp, They asked me to take it to a different dealer ship. The new dealer had it for 2.5 hours, gave me a list of what parts they changed, so far so good very happy for now.
Jimmy Mcginnis I have almost the same problems with my 2017 2.7 ecoboost at 26k miles. In addition to that it stalls constantly after towing more than 80 to 100 mile then comes out of it 20 minutes later. Worst truck Iv ever owned.
@@Weatherby406 I heard because the turbos overheat while towing. That's what I read. It could be true. Not sure.
@@Weatherby406 Alex,I have never towed with mine.I will keep a eye on it when i do, Thanks for the heads up.
@Jimmy Mcginnis What parts did they change out?
I have a random radio not working issue but so far very rare to happen like 3 time sin 28K miles. I figured not worth the hassle as I plan to put in a Navigation unit and backup camera I have a 2016 F150 2.7L XL FX4 SC 6.5 bed. I have been happy so far with the truck, remember how many they make though.
I have a 2018 5.0, and I’ve had two separate rattling noise issues. First was cold start, step on gas, noise immediately after release. Sounded like dropping a heavy chain in the engine compartment. Ford TSB 18-2354 sort of fixed that, though when I picked it up it was just quieter, and a few thousand more miles in, I haven’t noticed it. Of course that was after three trips, getting “it’s totally normal,” and me having to find and demand the specific TSB number be done. The other noise is still a mystery... sounds like tinny metal rattling under transmission, but only at random times. Sounds exactly like a loose heat shield, but I can’t make it happen going over bumps or anything. Only seems to be accelerating or decelerating, and it happens whether it’s a sudden or slow acceleration or deceleration. Hoping it is heat shielding or something, not torque converter or transmission
I work at a Ford dealership service department and the 5.0 has been troublesome since 18. 3.5 ecoboost have had phaser issue since 17. But the little 2.7 is just about bulletproof. Plenty of power and no major problems
I have the 2.7 was sacred to get it but glad to hear I made the right decision. But it does kick when it break and it shifts down to first gear.
Same here. 2nd 2.7 and love it
I have a Ford DLR nightmare for you.
My 2017 Raptor with 20k on it started to make a pretty loud rattle noise under light acceleration , took it to the local DLR and 4 days after I called for status was told the phasers are making the noise, I was skeptical about this but.... they are the specialist right.
Fast forward a MONTH later after numerous calls on my part was told the truck is ready. Made it to the DLR right before closing, get in my truck and soon as I left the parking lot made the exactly the same noise . Next morning extremely irritated I had the service manager and the “ master mechanic “ who worked on my truck to come with me for a test drive, the noise appears right away , the mechanic ( who by the way only works on SVT vehicles including the GT) asked me is this 4 wheel drive? Yes he did, after I confirmed that indeed the Raptor is a 4 wheel drive he asked me to pull over to the service drive, runs in to parts and comes back with 2” vacuum hose, opens the hood and 5 min. Later the truck is fixed.......... I was speechless, after 4 weeks and unnecessary engine repairs the problem was a vacuum which controls the front differential.
Needless to say no one cared.
Let me be clear I LOVE MY F150 I think is a wonderful truck but my next purchase will be different brand just because of service.
Woowww!!! That is a bad experience and the same with mine is pushing me away from Ford but I know it's just a shit dealership. Back home(not from OK) theres a Ford dealership that I used numerous times and they were always amazing.
I have 2017 GMC Sierra and service at the dealership is s joke
:lol: I have that system on my 1996 Explorer, relays and a vacuum front axle break, was the last year for that for explorers (after that all had full time 4wd). The F series and expeditions kept it. They still use that system? Hope it didn't chew up the axle end.
I was kinda kicking myself for getting a 13 instead of a 15+ 5.0 but between the door freezing issue and now the rattle I'm starting to think I made the right decision. I bought it with 60k 2 years ago and now it has 90k and have only done basic maintenance to it. I also had a 12 EcoBoost like you and loved it but got offered more than I owed on it so I sold it. I almost bought a Tundra when I bought my 13 F150 but the mileage sucked compared to the 150 as did the dated interior. I'm considering going back to a diesel 3/4 ton next go round even though I really don't need one.
I have a clunking sound/feel with mine (2018 5.0). I have had the same experiences you had with yours. Getting the run-around at the Dealership. I also had different Managers ride with me and could hear the clunking sound. They flashed the transmission a couple of times, but that did not fix the issue. When I would drop it off, they would only keep it for a day or two and say they could not replicate issue. I was also told that since there was no warning codes, then there was nothing they could do about it. If there is not a code, then the truck is working to Fords specifications.
Unfortunately, just because it makes noise or 'clunks' doesn't mean it's broken or nonconforming, so I am stuck.
Tsb 18-2306 is the glove box misaligned
Tsb 18-2354 is for the rattle
Tsb 19-2041 is for the dash warp
Tsb 19-2058 is for oil consumption
I dont know of any other TSB for the transmission other than just the reprogram. If u have any of those issues take those numbers to them and tell them it needs fixed.
Just FYI.I have owned 3 3.5 twin turbo ecoboost engines.First was a 2015 explorer sport 0 issues and traded it at around 70k.Bought a 2016 explorer sport which my wife still drives and there is 36k on it and again 0 issues with it.I run premium fuel and run full synthetic oil.I change the oil every 4K.I now have a 2019 Raptor for myself and LOVE the ecoboost motor.Only 500 miles on her but I can only hope it’s a great as the other ones I have owned.You won’t be sorry with the 3.5 twin turbo.good luck.
My 3.5 had the same issues, lemoned over a year ago after 4 trips and over 30 days in the shop
What i would have done.
I have a 2016 F150 Lariat w/ 3.5 Ecoboost. Just turned over 10K miles. No engine problems yet. Runs just fine. But i did have the hard downshift from 5th to 4th. Had a TSB flash and it fixed it. Hadn't had a problem since.
Had a 2017 F150 5.0 with 39k miles. It had the idling problem. Would go dead when I came to a stop frequently. Other than that, It ran great. 100’s of others on the F150 forum all had the same issue and it turned out to be the VCT solenoids and cam phasers. I took it to ford 3 times and they still refused to change that stuff out. They would call me and say it was fixed each time, I’d get up there and it would literally go dead while
Idling in their lot. I got sick of the issue so I traded it in on a Ram 2500 Cummins. Will never own another Ford.
I have the same issue with my 18 5.0 F150. Done it since mile 1. Had the software update done that addresses this noise, no luck, that was at about 4500 miles and I'm now at 7500 miles. Truck runs great, no performance issues at all. According to Ford it won't cause any damage, it just annoying. And it is. Supposedly it's caused by the VCT phaser duty cycle program when the engine is cold. I don't know. It didn't fix mine. It does completely go away when warm though so I don't worry about it. Love the engine though, thing hauls ass especially when running E85. She's a runner!
My rattle didnt start until at least 3000miles and it was only when cold but like I said in the video it did it fully warm at the dealership Monday with 9000mi.
If you do a build, be sure to stay in contact with your salesman weekly. They told me it would be about 8 weeks. Eight weeks rolls by, no truck but it's in the process. Week number 10 rolled around and then I was told that Ford finally accepted the order and I would have my truck in approximately 3 weeks. Get on their nerves and stay there once you place that order.
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I have a 17 2.7 ecoboost and haven’t had any issues yet, but the end of my warranty is rolling up soon. At least the 3 year part of it. I want to get a 3.5 or 5.0 next run but man there’s so many videos with people having issues with them that it’s scaring me off.
That's exactly why I wont be going with another 5.0 or a 3.5 for a replacement. Im going with a 2.7 with it being better issue wise
Crack me up, a Ford commercial plays during your video.
Hahahaha thats awesome
Just had the flash from the TSB for the throttle let off rattle done today and the sound is gone. 2018 5.0 2k miles. However im rather skeptical it will last as ive heard almost no ones vehicle has been fixed of the rattle through the flash update.
I have the 5.0 v8 2017 with the six-speed transmission. I picked that truck to exact specs on purpose. So far I had zero issues. Good luck with your issue I know it can be a pain in the rear!
I wrote basically the same comment. I bought what was tried and true and reliable technology.
The last ford motor worth a damn had pushrods and a cam in the block as a truck should. I will say Toyota and Nissan with the 5.7 and 5.6 seem to jve the overhead cam v8s figured out pretty well but ford ever since the 5.4 has been plagued wth cam phaser issues, back ticking noises, timing chain tensioners, spark plugs coming out of the heads, spark plugs getting stuck in the heads, warped manifolds...
They are great trucks overall but the engines are their Achilles heel.
Toyota has had plenty of problems with their VVT systems on their OHC V8's. They're also known for piston slap issues. The 5.6 Nissan is using now was heavily redesigned and isn't proven. The previous 5.6 is known for timing chain problems.
Nissan 5.6 isn’t new. It’s been around from model yer 2011 in the Infiniti QX56. Same engine, same direct injection.
Your story sounds all to familiar. My 2017 ecoboost had the same problem, went through updates and finally the timing chains and camphasers were replaced with no fix. I remember the ford mechanic called me at one point and even explained that he was instructed by ford to deactivate the camphaser selonoids which actually made the sound go away but we both agreed it was dishonest on not a good fix. I really believe ford has either camphaser or oil pressure problems with both of these engines. I was in the same position you are in about getting a new truck. In the end ford bought the truck back and I ended up with a 2017 powerstroke which has been flawless and surprisingly gets the same gas mileage. Good luck.
If they did change items to address the issues on the 2018 models they probably would not announce it. As I noted before I traded out of my 2018 5.0 and went back to a 2016 5.0 with the 6spd transmission. I could tired of chasing the dealers / service departments. Took a hit on the trade in, but peace of mind (so far) on the shifting, rattle, jerking, etc.
No the 5.0 is still hogging oil
I hope your issues get resolved. I have a 2019 with the 2.7 eco boost and no issues at all. Plenty of power and great mileage
The loaner I had this past week was a 19 2.7 and it was great! It already had all but 2000mi on it with no issues which is definitely a step up since mine had it at 500mi. Cannot wait for the replacement and fingers crossed no issues!!
I’ve noticed Ford dealerships consistently have shit customer service. What’s up with that? HR needs to up their game!
Yes,most ford service depts, are stupid! I ask about the Coyote tick.,they said ," I never knew about this" its new to me.
There is no such thing as consumer protection anymore and manufacturers are doing whatever they can to stall and duck warranties, hoping they can stall until the warranty runs out. It is no coincidence that warranty periods have decreased in recent years even as the cost of these mobile junk piles has sky rocketed.
@@johnstrand2247 you're right John. They're all after the consumer. You're on you're own. These truck aren't cheap and you feel ripped off when even the manufacturer is unable or unwilling to fix the vehicle. Let's rape the consumer.
That's why I bought mine at a Honda dealership.
I have a 2018 F150 XLT FX4 with 5.0. When I start my vehicle (never at a cold start), I hear a clunk sound. Sometimes loud, sometimes soft. It usually happens after I've been driving around, vehicle warm, park somewhere, turn it off. When I turn it back on, "CLUNK." Told my dealer about this, I was told that the "clunk" sound was normal. To me, that clunk sound I hear at startup sounds like something is breaking. I don't really know who to trust anymore.
I always been an American Ford guy buuuuuuut the Tundra is the truck that has most of its parts made in America compared to other companies and they easily last 300K miles 5.7L V8
Well, I worked for a Toyota dealership...that 5.7 isn't all that great. And it burns as much fuel as a 1995 F350 with a 460 V8.
Actually Tundra is about second or third on the list for most made in America, guess who is first...
I got 2018 and 2015 3.5 eco nothing but love .Change oil every 5,000 miles.Had recall or tsb to reflash pcm to take care of that,cam phazer on cost down after excel.Sorry your having problems with your truck,get with Ford hotline .2 gen not supposed to have rattle problems.
I'm on my second Silverado my first i sold it with 268,000 miles with only a rear end rebuild. I just upgraded to a 3/4 ton Silverado 6.0 it has 110,000 zero issues and I towed with both 7500 lbs...
I totally agree! I’ve had three GMC trucks had zero problems with them all of had well over 200,000 miles.
I had a 2015 and 2017 Zaza F150. Both with 2.7 ecoboost. I traded in the 2015 for a 2017 brand new. The 2015 was a xlt with the 301 package. I found that I like the 2.7 and 6speed trans but wanted the 302A package so I traded up to a new 2017 xlt with the 302A package. That was a mistake. Even with the drive train was the same specs, the 2017 had less power. More rattle noise and It blew out blue smoke when you do a cold start. The did a oil consumption test. It did not use oil. Here is the crazy thing it actually made oil. And of course I had to break a arm at the dealership to get them to look at it. After two visits my wife and I could tell where this situation was going. Nowhere.
So I traded it in on a used 2018 F150 Platinum with the 5.0, Mistake #2. It is using oil with no leaks. About a quart every 1500 miles. After researching this I found out that Ford doing a pcm reprogram, changing the oil filter and oil along with putting a new dipstick in it that will trick people into thinking it is not burning that much more oil anymore. I have not had the vvt rattle noise or trans issue yet. Really nice truck but Ford needs to get there $hit together. I like the chassis and body but there engine and trans sucks. The money that people pay for this is a loss. I should have bought a ram or chevy.
Please if you are ready this don't buy a Ford. Pick something else. You will thank me later on.
Just turned 50k on my 2016 F150. 5.0. No issues with any noises or anything. Knock on wood.
Some just got lucky and get 50k without issues, some like me just buy a tundra.
Ya, im happy to have dropped a 65k on a diesel. Last twice as long and holds value better. Especoally with this issue.
@Tony Melo You people and the continous towing Bs. Listen bud, i do tow. Ever seen a 1500 truck pulling 15,000lbs? I have done it many times and do not care to do it again. Injectors take a long ehile before they cause issue. Majority issues come from the emission BS which needs to be removed. The other diesel we own, yes we own 2 of them, is gone ove rhalf the year with a 1/2 capable 9000lbs camper behind it majority of te time. My truck tows a tractor every now and then. Being that im in cattle/ranch work and getting into land development, rather have the vehicle to last a while than one causing issues. It might tow 1/4 of its entire life of my ownership but thats plenty. Frankly i dont want to put a 40ft gooseneck on a 1500 again. Diesles last way longer than a gas. They hold their value way stronger too. In 5 years time my truck will still be in the $55k mark while many gas trucks are pushing the mid 20s from the orginal 50k tag. You buy a diesel for the value you get not just the towing aspec. I know many guys who are in trucking and wanted to get the pete 389 with the 72in high bunk. Turns out the flat top holds its value more so they just deal with the lower cabin. Money talks in the end. Bullshit never ends up anywhere.
@Tony Melo I will agai. repeat myself. Diesels do get 500k miles without issues. The catch is, they are not running emission equpiment. I know many 300k mile trucks without issue and still "stock". Trucks with emissions wont last but 150k before problems arrise.
Seriously man, Just pursue your state's Lemon Law. I had mine bought back last month from FoMoCo. I still love the look of Ford trucks, but after losing money on mine, I don't think I can go back to Ford. If anything ill look into the super duty 6.2 which isn't having any of these problems
Fuel pumps are going out left and right, it death wobbles sometimes , randomly, and waste gas up the ass lol about 8 mpg highway
I spoke too soon, I was on the super duty forums last night and about 5 or 6 members with the 6.2 had their engines replaced since 2017 for shards of metal in their oil.. What the fuck is going on with Ford. @@chrisbarrientez7242
@@NL-in6uj I have no idea but I did have a gt350 trans and engine went out before 7k miles and I babied the car and I traded that off for a 2018 5.0 and so far so good at 5k miles lol
Exactly, stop going back for more. Switch brands
@@rb3tactical145 na i rather build the engine for 6k and have a 1000+ hp fucking beast lol it's not just about the brand but the story and memories behind a vehicle
I have a 2018 raptor and I have not had any problems. I have had it for a year now.Good luck😜
Now a days it seems like you have to get a 2500 or 250 pickup truck to stay away from all the complicated technology.
not really. ya just get a different set of problems. Some folks are lucky, some are not. It stinks to hear about the 3.5 and 5.0 having issues. We want to get the wife a 5.0, but might have to hold off longer... smh..
she currently has the 2.7TT in her Edge and it has been great over the last 20k.
Sco zar what do you think is your different set of problems with a 3/4 ton?
guess I spoke to quickly and didn't specify... Diesel issues (cause I honestly don't know anything about the Big V8s that Ford puts out) since I usually think Powerstroke when someone says 3/4ton or bigger.but for Diesels...injector issues, Emissions problems up the wazoo (that's the biggie - something I worry about big time), fuel gelling (already had that happen once - not fun)
or buy a Toyota like you should have in the first place...
And this is exactly why I am holding off on taking my shit in. I don’t want to be without the truck for months.
Wow that really sucks man i have a 18 5.0L platinum with 77k on it no issues build date on mine is November bought it in December 15th order it on october it does need about half quart of oil every 4k miles tho but no thicking
That’s why I lease. If there are issues only gotta deal with it a couple years
Sorry about your situation here and it is not just Ford. We have a serious lack of consumer protection now and warranties are being ignored, stalling tactics employed until the shorter warranty runs out. I just went through it with Jeep and once you do, you never want the brand again.
Notice how warranties have got shorter even as the vehicles now approach the cost of a house?
I completely agree. That's why I still want a Ford. Every brand has their issues and the service depends on where u go no matter the brand.
Agreed. New turbo-$3500. New diesel regenerating exhaust system $?$$!. Far fewer user serviceable parts, much more complicated overall. And as long as it's lasting to the warranty period, that's a win for the manufacturer. But when it's that expensive, shouldn't you expect better ?
Hope all is going well with the truck. I mentioned earlier about my AC having issues. I gave up on my 17 5.0 with 22k miles. Multiple trips to the service dept. and multiple parts changed. It still freezes up and stops blowing air occasionally while driving after 15 min or so. Summer is not even here yet! They say it's fixed, and tell me if I drop it off that I will be responsible for the loaner if they can't diagnose anything. My truck is babied and is a driveway queen(I have a work van for daily). Royal Purple full synthetic oil and all. Too soon to start treating me like this.
Fraud guys never learn th-cam.com/video/5zpuuxDhs-8/w-d-xo.html
As a royal purple user I would drop the oil overall, I will use it in certain applications. Just get Pennzoil Platinum ultra or a good synthetic oil, even Walmart Supertech synthetic is DexOS Gen 2 and SN Plus certified. I would only go 7500 miles per change personally but that's highway mostly.
In cold flow test Pennzoil Platinum Ultra even did better than Amsoil.
@@bryanmartinez6600 it don't matter anymore...just traded the POS for a 2019 tundra 4x4...
Going through issues with my 18’ 5.0 steering wheel vibrations. Sucks when you’re dealing with incompetent services departments
tundra is ur answer, that is what happen with u buy government auto.
William Ste Croix yeah it sucks.
I noticed that I feel the vibrations more when my steering wheel is extended. I pushed the steering wheel all the way back in and it helped
I agree with you that you want to get the 3.5 EcoBoost. I had the 2.7 EcoBoost and couldn’t be happier with it. Great MPG, performance, and reliable. I had to trade it with GMC Sierra HD because I tow heavy camper. I really miss it so much.
Thank for your service brother may God continue to bless you and your family.
My dealer has gone down the tubes also. I have bought trucks from for 20 years, all of a sudden it is like they had a lobotomy.
We had a an issue with brand new 2019. It took a while to figure out what was causing it. Turned out it was minor. But in the mean time the dealer and Ford were great! We did end up with a buy back and got new truck.
Im in the same boat I have a 3.3l as a loaner and it's the forgot child and has no strange noises and just works. If I get a buy back approved I might just go with that
The 1 flaw. On those duratec v6 is chain drivinwater pump,when it fails, she leaks coolant from pump housing then timing cover then into the oil pan. NOW (your fucked). Change it early, then you'll get 500,000mile from that engine.
@@benitom3049I believe that is only with the transverse Duratec engines. I THINK the longitudinal engines have a different water pump design.
Yup, had the exact same issues with my 2019 f150! No longer a Ford owner.
Touch wood I haven't had any problems with mine yet, even cold starts with getting into -20°c here in BC. I've got the 2.7l 2018, hopefully all this shit gets sorted for you.
I have the same truck, color and specs. Same problem, thanks for sharing!
Had 3.5EB in a new 2011 F150. Timing chain rattle on cold startup...Ford wouldn't fix it even though they could replicate the noise. Got rid of the truck and picked up a 2014 RAM. Had to get rid of the Ram too, not for the engine but all the other stuff it had going wrong and tons of recalls. Currently dont have a truck and it's sad. Way too many problems with these super expensive trucks. Call me crazy but for the price of these new trucks I expect them to be trouble free.
Not the sexiest choice but I read the Tundra has very few issues. They share parts with Lexus cars, nothing is perfect but very high quality.
Thank you for all the information on the F150. I won’t be buying a Ford.
I’ve owned my 2018 lariat 5.0 f150 for a year and half. I have been dealing with the deceleration issue the entire ownership. It’s been in the shop now six times trying to fix it. The TSB doesn’t work now the ford engineering is involved. I have had the oil consumption issue and they replaced the motor and now after another 10k miles while in for the rattle they notice it’s going through oil again and are replacing the motor again! I have had transmission rattle which now finally was fixed, ac leaks, radio freezing, and sunroof break and rattle issues. It’s seriously beyond ridiculous. The truck has 28k miles and it’s been in the shop 15 times
Just get a Chevrolet Silverado 5.3 No Turbo worries. I bought mine used with 20,000 miles. I now have 67,000. It was 2 years old when I bought mine LT Z71 for $30,000.00 . I just change oil, filters, and got new defender tires.
I also have the lifetime powertrain warranty.
I had an 84 F150 with the inline 6. I loved that engine. For most people that would be a great engine. Imagine that engine with a 10 automatic transmission. I had the 4 speed manual with the really low 1st gear stick. Great memories and reliability.
The reason for vehicles are so expensive it’s not because they’re better quality it’s because you’re essentially buying $10,000 worth of insurance with every vehicle because it’s certain to break down and four will have to pay the dealership for repairs no one seems to get this. And yes that is a ridiculous price for an expedition I have an 04 DeRego 57 hemi and it will tow more than your expedition valued at $3000 and has 260,000 miles on it never been repaired, recalled ,or even been to the dealership.
The first gen Expedition was the true solid Expedition from 97-02.
Solid rear axle a V8 and body on frame. We towed a 10k dump trailer with it didn't break a sweat, suspension was slammed though.
I still see plenty of these Expedition on the road
These issues are few and far between, whatever engine you choose next I'm sure you wont have issues again. Im still driving a 2011 3.5L Ecoboost I bought new, now it has over 150,000 miles and has had 0 issues.
The 2011 3.5EB has a different style timing chain from the 2012 and newer 3.5EB engines. That's why your engine is lasting. The 2012 and up engines use a cheap junk inverted tooth timing chain that wears out way faster. Ford wanted to save money and use a quieter timing chain.
Ford used to make a good 1/2 ton truck but not so much anymore. I had a 2007 & 2008 F-150 they were flawless. Now they make junk! I now have a Ram 2500 & couldn’t be happier!
Good Call! Ram never ever ever has had a issue, recall or bad service. Wow, you are brilliant. Ram is perfect.
Good luck with ur fiat let me know when u hit 100000miles
Weston Holm I sure will 👍
Not exactly flawless. My 2007 went through 2 ac units, 4wd hubs, the 4wd vacuum solenoid, steering shaft, rear discs in the limited slip, fuel pump module, passenger side exhaust manifold, and power steering pump. It just turned 100K and I drive like a granny with some light towing once in a while (about 3000lbs). I also meticulously maintain it myself. Most of these are all known problems with those years of the truck. Luckily most happened in the first 3-4 years of ownership and I had the extended warranty. Its never left me stranded though and I still love the truck enough that I bought a 2019 f250 and still drive the 150 mostly because it rides better (and so I don't load the winter road salt up on the new truck).
2004-2008 was the worst era for Ford trucks in the last 4 decades.
2011-up is among the best. You’re out of touch with reality.
Sorry that sucks. A lot of dealerships not just Ford have a lot to be desired. I own a business I buy a lot of trucks I've been lucky i have a really good dealership I work with. I've got a few F150s with the 5.0 and I haven't had any issues with them not yet anyways. For me they have been a great motor unfortunately there's going to be a bad one here and there. I had a 2016 Cadillac CTS-V I had to have the supercharger the transmission and the rear end replaced GM finally bought it back from me and I bought another CTS-V and haven't had any issues with it at all. So i understand not wanting to get another 5.0 but the next one maybe great. I hope everything works out good luck
Couldn't agree more with everything you said and that's exactly why if it comes to them buying it back I'll get another Ford, it may not have any problems.
@@WICKEDAUTO1 that's exactly right not every engine is going to be bad I get a kick out of these guys that act like Chevys and Rams and Toyotas and Nissan's don't have issues trust me they all do. humans and machines make Vehicles so unfortunately humans aren't perfect.
That dealership is a true pud whack. Best of luck to you! Appreciate your videos.
I've been a Ford owner for nearly 10 years of a 2007 F-150 with the 5.4. Been reliable every mile of that time (thankfully). HOWEVER, it will be the only F-150 I will ever own, unless I buy an OBS with a Windsor V8. The new Ford's are junk. Plain and simple. Door latches freezing. 10 speed transmission issues. 5.0 engines knocking and clattering. Ridiculous. Friend of mine is experiencing EVERY single on of those issues I just mentioned on his '18 5.0, plus it's burning oil at an alarming rate and they keep refusing to fix it. Ford is horrible now and I wouldn't even touch one. If I buy new: Toyota, HERE I COME!
LOL good luck. My Tundra as a massive piece of shit. Total junk from the rear axle, to the rust rotting flimsy frame, to the junk 5.7 that leaked oil and needed a water pump, starter, and power steering pump by 80k miles. Piston slapped every morning and smelled like burning oil when it warmed up.
@@hochhaul Sorry to hear that. My family has owned many Toyota's. Several Tundra's (older 4.7 engines), as well as Tacoma's and currently a 4Runner. Never a problem with any of them. I was an idiot who wanted to try something different and went to a Ford. but thank God it didn't blow up in my face. Lemons can come from pretty much any company, but Toyota's rep for reliability is still far better than Ford. My Dad has a 2016 5.0 and if it gets below 30, his door likes to fly open in a curve because the door latches freeze and Ford doesn't care to fix the problem and plus my friend with his knock clattering oil burning '18 5.0. At this point, even though personally I've had a good experience with my F-150, I'm just fed up with domestic products and seeing all the problems they are having (particularly Ford trucks) and just going to avoid them all together.
I have a 2018 ford raptor and I have had no problems.10000 miles. I hope everything works out.😜
Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
I have 2018 f150 3.5 and love it 👍🏻
Delete this video and hire a lemon law attorney! I am going through exactly what you are going through with a 2018 5.0. Exactly! This is my second F150 in the last 3 years. My 2015 with 2.7 was bought back but only after a hard-fought battle with Ford through the Lemon Law with an attorney. I am close to my 30 days out of service and my problem still exists. This is not a good time to own a Ford
Suddenly those 2009 - 2010 5.4 3v's aren't looking so bad. If you can get one with low enough mileage you should be able to push off the timing system work considerably by nothing more than faithful oil changes at the correct intervals. That and your only paying $10K for a truck instead of $40K
For what the trucks cost ther should be no problem...
if you buy a Toyota
There was a TSB for that issue, fixed by programming the PCM
Did it, not a fix
My 150 2019 3.5th cold start diesel rattle since the last cold snap. Its had all the tsb’s, each time louder ticking until a few weeks ago. This time I recorded it on my phone plus the shitty 10speed shift like a brick banger. 55k miles at the dealer for phasers? and they say months out for transmission rebuilding!
I have a 1988 f150 ext cab 4x4 still going strong. 5.8 engines 3 speed automatic xlt larriet
I had an issue with my 2018 with 2.7 at a dealership here in ohio. They were refusing to fix a brand new truck under warranty with a freezing door latch. It wouldnt latch in the cold. They would tell me they couldnt fix it if they couldnt replicate it. I filed a complaint with the nhtsa, and called the corporate customer service. Long story short the regional corporate person must have called the service department. They fixed the latch and what do you know the problem went away. Corporate called me back and gave me a free extended bumper to bumper warranty. Keep calling corporate my friend.
I had 2017 ram big horn 5.7 on lease prior with about 30k no issues. My dad wanted it so bad so I signed it over to him. Wish I would have been patient and just got the ram rebel I wanted.
The door latch freezes because water gets in on the wrong side of the door panel. Ford has a fix for it . They pulled the black plugs on the bottom of the door panel out on my 2017 3.5 eco and 3 to 4 inches of water came out of all 4 doors. They had to completely remove the guts on all , put in their rain guards and clean out all the panels. I had a slight musky smell that I couldn't pin point. Know where it was coming from now
I had the same off throttle rattle and typewriter tick with my 2018 5.0, along with plenty of CEL issues to do with VCT solenoids, and absolutely laughable fuel mileage. I ended up having the lease taken over and got a 2019 3.5. So far so good. Lots more power and no rattling or weird engine noise, and the mileage has been fantastic.
Dude its never a waste to film a newer year model truck man. Hand me the Key's and I'll kick out a sweet ass video here on my channel! Good luck with your issues and hope it all works out! Like, comment and subscribe!
Dang that sucks. I feel your frustration with the dealer. My 2017 5.0 makes no noise, but the AC lines froze up and stopped blowing air. I took it in and showed the service advisor. They replaced a relay, and said it's good to go. 5 minutes after picking it up, it froze up again. Unless the shop foreman physically comes out to verify what is wrong, it will always be the same answer from them..."we started it. We experienced no issues but we went ahead and changed some "parts". Yes, I requested the lead technician come experience what it is doing. Service advisors and managers don't know shit. They think they do, kind of like the guys at autozone. Besides the 10 speed, what is different from 2018 and up 5.0? Good luck man.
I believe exactly what you said is the issue at this dealership. It is beyond frustrating! Well they did their "update" on the 5.0 in 2018 for more hp and torque. It's now dual injected..both direct and port.
WickedF150 Biggest cause of issues with 18 and up 5.0 is the cylinder walls, they went away from a traditional cast iron liner in the block and went with a thin wall treatment to save weight and supposedly add durability. The 18 is also 12:1 compression. Some have been dropping valves as well for some reason.
I had a loaner last month the had 189 miles when I got it and 1798 when I dropped it off two weeks later. lol My 19 f250 was in because of a wet wiring harness causing terrible problems. Half way to a lemon already lol
It's the phaser bolts backing out look into that makes a squeak sound
Not sure if you mentioned it or not, but what’s the dealer? I live in OKC as well and it sounds like I want to stay away from them. Thanks!
I’ve got a 2010 4.6 3v f150 and if you put it in drive, press the brake and rev to 1k rpms it’ll rattle but idk if it’s the same as your truck.
Ford service departments need to go through intensive customer service training.
It's hard for them to have a good attitude when they're constantly dealing with lousy engine build quality.
Ugh, I feel you man. I was hoping you would be able to get everything worked out but this whole ordeal just sounds like what I went through from day one with the '18 Canyon. Lost the lottery and ended up with just about every issue possible with the truck, and a dealership that dragged their feet and flaunted their total incompetence at every turn.
They kept my truck for 27 days for a trans TSB, which I had to shove in their face to prove it existed. Word of advice: if they do it to you again and keep your truck for a month without updates or any actual work, then you have to escalate. I thought to be nice to them and give them a benefit of a doubt; they don't give a fuck. You have to get on their nerves as much as they've gotten on yours and get Corporate on the line. After everything is resolved, find another dealer.
Hey I heard the Canyon is a peice of junk also.
Hey I heard the Canyon is a peice of junk also.
Have a 2.7, absolutely love it! More than enough power and a lot more potential with a tuner.
So a year ago I bought a 2017 F150 5.0 with 30,000 miles. It started making a tick noise a week having it and I had to have the intake replaced. A year later I'm dealing with 4 Ford dealerships that looked at my truck don't know what it is....and won't return phone calls. One day out of no where GPS and other features quit working. They tested absolutely everything and don't know what it is. It's been a week since I was at a dealer and still no return phone call. In secret menu it says "jammer on" 🤷♂️ idk what to do....a little irritated
My 2020 f150 5.0 is going back for the 6th for the same starting issue. It does a metal sound at times while it having a hard time to start.
Im glad i bought a 2017 xlt coyote crew cab regular 4x4. Good ol six speed with all the kinks worked out. I always due that when buying vehicles i like to buy in certain cases the last year before redesign when they finally get all the kinks worked out. I hope the 10 speed ends up being a great transmission but anything that has to do with collaboration and chevrolet that's a red flag for me. Lately Chevrolet has not been my favorite in terms of reliability issues. I don't like the new cylinder deactivation it just seems that there has been quite a few issues with that complicated system. That's why i bought a 17 coyote (there were 2018's on the lot) because it didn't have the 10 speed and i dont trust the ecoboost those super high pressure fuel injectors and those turbos I'm not a fan. Idk just my opinion.
As you say that, my 2015 Silverado with the 5.3 is about to roll over 100k miles with no problems lmao
You had better luck then me. I have 92K on my 2011 f150 5.0 the Ford dealership took 5 months to find the problem and after ESP and Ford tech hotline finally said replace the motor they should of done that. When they found metal shaving, wrapped head and block. It crazy I told them how to make they said 5 times and after a year the finally did something about it
My previous Ford truck had an axle issue only when driven at least 10 miles. Spent 6 weeks total at dealer. Turned out they were checking it cold even thought they knew it only happened when warm. I had it towed to another dealer who fixed a small part in a a day for cheap. GO TO ANOTHER DEALER! You do not have to have a car serviced at the dealer you bought it from!
I had a 2015 GMC slt ,sierra ,crew cab. It was a piece of junk ! My father had a 2014 Chevy 2500 diesel Silverado. It broke down after 2 years. The warranty paid $8k to repair the engine. So my father and me got rid of both gm trucks. We bought 2 used gm trucks . A 2003 s10 and a 2006 Chevy Silverado 1500. Both trucks have zero issues. All newer trucks are full of issues and problems.
Seriously... did we ever see vehicles have these kinds of issues right out of the gate 15 or 20 years ago? I'm sure you did, to some extend... but it sure feels like its a good 10 times worse today. The kicker is that some brands down right SUCK at making good on what is essentially their bad. Ford seems to be terrible at it.
This is the reason why Im afraid to buy a Ford. It's not the issue's that comes with it but it's the dealership. Failure to acknowledge or admit the problems. Always giving a run around and the delays. It's beautiful truck and drives really nice. Just wish they have better customer service.
Ford had my 2016 F150 Sport, 2.7eb for about 60 days last year. I had both terrible and outstanding customer service and support from the same dealership. Truck is finally fixed, mostly.
My 2010 was in the shop 5 times but the dealer only billed ford proper 3 times so they denied my lemon law case. If Ford doesn’t show up you can’t point out the problem to the mediator because they’re not there to defend themselves- total BS
Good luck to you Sir.
I have stethoscoped the engine during the noise and the noise is the loudest from the exhaust phaser solenoid. It does sound like a chain rattle but you can put your hand on the top of the exhaust phaser solenoids on both sides and feel it hammer when it makes the noise. I think possibly the solenoids are being over worked.
Which is what Ford has now deemed to be replaced but if it's just being replaced with the same exact parts it doesnt actually help anything.
@@WICKEDAUTO1 yeah im afraid we are going to have to wait a while before there are some revised parts. Will probably take ford years to update the TSB on the issue. Until then dealers are going to throw parts at it. Im just going to drive mine until something new happens.
My exhaust phasers and VCT solenoids associated to them, no difference
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Not sure if this helps but I took my 2018 5.0 in in with similar issues. They did three TSBs on it. TSB-2354 (for the rattle). Supposedly, they said some noise is characteristic for that motor, I'm not sure how true that is. I can still hear the rattle on deceleration but not as much. TSB 18-2058 for a check engine light that read a misfire. And TSB-2273 for some other rattle that they heard. I was told theres a solenoid valve that disengages early which causes the rattle that I hear so the reprogram causes it to stay engaged longer to prevent the noise from becoming obtrusive. So other than the slight rattle I still hear on deceleration, everything is fine so far. This was Sheehy Ford of Midlothian, VA
Yea the tsb for the rattle they put out last year, mine had it done months ago and it didnt change anything. In the dealership parking lot it was rattling loud as ever. I am glad to hear yours helped somewhat!
@@WICKEDAUTO1 yea somewhat, but we'll see how it goes. Do you know if it's true that some rattling is normal with the V8s or is someone just blowing smoke up my a**?
@@tiger2q the actual rattling, like when you let off the gas is not normal by any means. That's why Ford put out the tsb...first just a program update and now if that doesnt work, replace cam phasers n vct solenoids
@@WICKEDAUTO1 because they literally wrote on my service report: some "rattle" is characteristic for this engine package. So what you're telling me is, I shouldnt hear any rattle at all, and if I do get them to replace the cam phaser and vct solenoids?
@@tiger2q yes, the TSB is 18-2354. My dealership just gave me an update yesterday saying that they did look at the TSB again and are starting the tear down Monday to replace those things based on what the TSB says.