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  • @Clesterist
    @Clesterist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I thinks its hilarious that an NFL Production would willingly compare the NFL as big brother 😂😂😂

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      NFL Films has always been given a pretty wide, independent berth to work within, and I think that Ed Sabol probably got something in ink about such latitudes when he sold his company to the NFL.
      They've always been about the story though, in spite of how Corporate may look at times.
      Mind you, this is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to talk about when this material is 15, 20, 30+ years old - they certainly have never dove into the contemporary controversies surrounding Corporate; but, they'll for sure make a documentary about it in 20 years

    • @willmckee1632
      @willmckee1632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Philip Tucker Okay that’s silly, but even if it were true, what exactly about it requires government intervention? What’s illegal about it?

    • @williamrussell8799
      @williamrussell8799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Philip Tucker your missing a chromosome

  • @daniel26395
    @daniel26395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    Just so you guys at NFL Films know I would not be opposed to more full length episodes uploaded to TH-cam

    • @Football__Junkie
      @Football__Junkie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Daniel Corral yeah, you know, upload all the old stuff that everyone is a big fan of... so I don’t have to do it and get demonetized for doing your job for you

    • @MGAF688
      @MGAF688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I concur.

    • @IWantToBelieve1
      @IWantToBelieve1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With how stuffy the NFL can get at times it’s nice to see the creative freedom they give NFL Films to make these things

    • @NunYa953
      @NunYa953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They don't even have this stuff available on NFL Network. Their OnDemand is a joke. 24 hours of BS analysts talking about the exact same thing on every show.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@IWantToBelieve1 In spite of the corporate NFL's conservative image, NFL Films(what started as Blair Motion Pictures by the legend Ed Sabol, until the NFL purchased the company for his permanent services) has been an absolutely ground breaking organization in the world of sports videography and video documenting. They really changed how sports was retroactively documented, copious amounts of slow motion, a couple orchestras worth of live musicians for bespoke music, the 'epic narration', the whole thing.
      In fact, it's incredible how NFL Films' historic content holds up - it's all just so damn well written and crafted

  • @richardsiemion5903
    @richardsiemion5903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Being a Detroit sports fan it’s pretty sad that my city has seen more USFL championships than Super Bowls in my life time.

    • @beaujackson7699
      @beaujackson7699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as a mn sports fan we have lynx n twins championships since my birth hopefully lions and vikes step up sick of Packers they need go down

    • @imgointolukins
      @imgointolukins ปีที่แล้ว

      At least we have the Wolverines

    • @richardsiemion5903
      @richardsiemion5903 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imgointolukins no they folded in the 20s

    • @dynamitedingo7720
      @dynamitedingo7720 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A championship is a championship

    • @richardsiemion5903
      @richardsiemion5903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dynamitedingo7720 yes I agree … it is … but not all ships are equal. A battleship is much more respectable than a fishing ship for a reason.

  • @damianm-nordhorn116
    @damianm-nordhorn116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Fryar about negotiation at Trump Tower:
    "You've got all that money and you can't guarantee my contract?!"

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fryar was a lousy WR! SAD!-President L Don Trumpard

    • @j-fpilote1576
      @j-fpilote1576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fryar turned out to be a real piece of trash, found guilty of multiple real estate frauds with his mother.

  • @ethanwood2397
    @ethanwood2397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    lmao they posted this right after the aaf got destroyed

    • @cruman87
      @cruman87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vid was posted before

    • @micanal9452
      @micanal9452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The XFL is going to try the same thing with McMahon in Trump's role.

    • @Hbkdj0
      @Hbkdj0 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha

    • @rockvilleraven
      @rockvilleraven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hbkdj0 The XFL seems to have done their homework.

    • @theriotartist
      @theriotartist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoever that investor was is a moron.

  • @aaronromance
    @aaronromance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Steve got 40 million guaranteed from the USFL. Went to 3-16 as a starter with the Bucs, got traded to the 49ers to play back to one of the greatest QB. Steve went on to win couple Super Bowls & going to the Hall Of Fame. That’s one hell of story.

    • @craigmergenthal9291
      @craigmergenthal9291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Bucs were a bad situation for everybody- Young included. Getting traded to the Niners, to learn behind Montana for that great franchise, was the best situation Young could have possibly been in. It's possible history is completely different- maybe he wouldn't have panned out with Cincinnati in the mid 80s since he had some learning to do. Maybe he does and the Bengals beat SF in the 88 Super Bowl. It's an amazing story, full of "what ifs"

    • @TheToad075
      @TheToad075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@craigmergenthal9291 I feel like learning, basically, the same offense as the 9ers with Ken Anderson and Wyche would have worked out for Young as well

    • @Matt-cr4vv
      @Matt-cr4vv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn’t actually make $40M from the USFL. He made around $4.8M on that deal. The structure of the deal was he got $4M up front and then base salaries for the four years and at the end of the four years there was an annuity that would’ve paid him the remaining money of the deal over around 40 years. Young has spoken on it that the owner of the team offered to pay him the remaining $1M of the base salaries he was owed or he could fund the annuity with that money. Young chose to take the money because he says the owner insisted that the annuity had to remain in his name and not Steve’s so he took the money and moved on. A lot of the big money USFL deals that lured guys from the NFL were like that where they were big guarantees compared to the money of the day but the team owners couldn’t just pay them the money like a normal deal. They were all backloaded with long structures and none of the guys actually made what they were supposed to have made because none of the owners in that league had the money to simply pay them under normal contracts. All the USFL stuff that got top guys was just sticker advertising that nobody actually saw and then the league tanked anyways. Cool league but never had a chance to last because none of the owners had the money to last like the NFL did.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Mike Rozier had the chance to become the first player ever to rush for two 1,000 yard seasons in the same calendar year in 85. Spring of 85 he rushed for over 1,000 yards in the USFL. Fall/winter of 85 he gained about 400 yards with the Oilers.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reggie White did post two double-digit sack seasons in 1985: 13 with Memphis and then 11.5 more with the Eagles

    • @Jesushates6969
      @Jesushates6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mgb4692 remember how you thought Reggie White had 13 with the showboats and 11.5 with the Eagles? Look ma, another fail! Designated loser over here is at it again!

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jesushates6969 Youre right, other way around, way to catch me there........
      Now you're gonna have to make up your mind, either I don't know anything about the USFL or Im blatantly lying to make their players look better than they were. See I just made it easy for you by giving your comeback, so you can do it

    • @Mike-aka747
      @Mike-aka747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How often was rozier used in the nfl is the big question. In the usfl he was the main back. More opportunities there. It’s not a question of which league was better.and yes Reggie White came into the nfl fresh from the usfl and came in kicked ass and took names. Just like nobody could block him in the usfl nobody could stop him in the nfl. A lot of usfl players came in and made an immediate impact for their nfl clubs

    • @Lawomenshoops
      @Lawomenshoops 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rozier was a highly coveted RB by the NFL. He was expected to be the workhorse! He would gain 1,000 yards for the Oilers within a couple years. He didn't have the HOF career expected but he had a good career!

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Boomer's football hero is Bert Jones, former BALTIMORE COLTS QB, One reason Boomer wore 7, it was Bert Jones' number.

    • @BTLAGS
      @BTLAGS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its also a reason he would not want to be drafted by the colts in 1984 after they moved.

    • @Lawomenshoops
      @Lawomenshoops 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fries You do know Boomer was a 2nd round pick? The BALTIMORE COLTS finished the 83 season with a 7-9 record. That meant the 7th pick in the 84 NFL Draft. In addition they had Denver's 1st pick, 19th in the 1st round. And they also had the 35th pick in 84. Boomer was the 38th pick in 84.
      If the BALTIMORE COLTS weren't stolen and stayed in BALTIMORE, they would have taken the Maryland QB in the 84 draft.

    • @Lawomenshoops
      @Lawomenshoops 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fries Steve Young's $40M contract didn't help. NFL teams didn't want to get into a bidding war for Boomer. Some of the team in the top10 needed a QB, but other needs needed to be filled.

  • @CLuvTravels
    @CLuvTravels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love old football footage

  • @jtstacey83
    @jtstacey83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I miss how straight forward the coverage of the draft was back then.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've always preferred the "fly on the wall" style of presentation over the "made for TV" presentation that most of this rather straight forward and deliberate content is typically presented in. No, we don't need a DJ riffing over the comedian hired to "host the show" - just get to the damn content already

    • @Ozziemints
      @Ozziemints 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir.

    • @TheHutchIsOn
      @TheHutchIsOn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back in my day you whippersnappers!

  • @raygordonteacheschess5501
    @raygordonteacheschess5501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    9:01 "Alright, the Patriots select SIX YEAR-OLD TOM BRADY...."

    • @richiebee1984
      @richiebee1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FIGURES THEY WOULD DO THAT LOL!!

  • @Eaglesden
    @Eaglesden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember Brian Sipe #17 left the Browns after the 1983 season to play for the New Jersey Generals in 1984. Kozar came in 1985 cured me. Sent McDonald back to the farm.

  • @mikeybarboza3086
    @mikeybarboza3086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Steve Young getting $40mill in 1984 would be over $100 mill today. Obv Young didn't play in todays generation but to just think about that is nuts. Also I had no idea or honestly don't remember Reggie White being in the USFL.

    • @Norcat10
      @Norcat10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      40 mil is 40 mil whenever. Are you high

  • @EricGates
    @EricGates 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Injury prone Simms...Giants draft Hostetler. 6 years later...
    That's some foresight right there.

  • @m.johnson7344
    @m.johnson7344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    There's a great 30 for 30 about the USFL I suggest you watch. It explains this video in greater detail, also Trump's involvement which was a major why the league folded. In addition to other factors.

    • @fjccommish
      @fjccommish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trump's involvement was a major reason the league started.

    • @joediesen1
      @joediesen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Trump wasn't involved in starting the USFL. The USFL was the brainchild of David Dixon. He was the Lamar Hunt of the USFL and always envisioned it as a spring league that didn't compete directly with the NFL. He stressed fiscal responsibility to prevent the financial problems that plagued the WFL. The owners almost immediately went against his plan by paying outrageous salaries to compete with the NFL for the best college talent. This caused financial problems for many franchises. Trump bought the Generals after the USFL's first season in 1983 and he started convincing other owners that the USFL should compete directly with the NFL in the fall, and he also thought suing the NFL would be a great idea. Who knows if Dixon's original idea of spring football that didn't try to compete with the NFL would have worked out, but we do know that competing directly with the NFL and overpaying players was a very bad idea, and that was the plan pursued by several owners, including Trump.

    • @geleneceline2310
      @geleneceline2310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@fjccommish actually no

    • @craigmergenthal9291
      @craigmergenthal9291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joediesen1 LA's owner, J. William Oldenburg, also spent a lot of money he didn't have. The USFL had several owners who probably shouldn't have been owners due to their financial situations, but also had some good owners- Bassett in Tampa was one. He passed away from brain cancer, i believe, which means the USFL lost a strong advocate of staying the course for spring football to find their own niche.

    • @aok2075
      @aok2075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Trump is a financial genius that turned $1 million into billions.

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @11:17 - Bobby Bethard was an NFL GM. His son Casey Bethard is a country mustic singer, and thegrandson is C.J. Bethard, an NFL QB, though he is only a 3rd stringer for the 49ers. He was George Kittle's team mate in College.

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    lol poor colts, always being rejected by top picks.

    • @courtlandsmock110
      @courtlandsmock110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      yeah the Colts really got rejected by Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck

    • @courtlandsmock110
      @courtlandsmock110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Andy S I knew what he meant just pointing out the Colts may also have the best luck of any team ever who have drafted 1st multiple times.

    • @MGAF688
      @MGAF688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Colts had a guy named Bob Irsay. It wasn't rejection of the Colts. It was rejection of Bob Irsay.

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@courtlandsmock110 I didn't know that

    • @loyaldude10
      @loyaldude10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Elway did not want to play for the Colts period. He and his father did not like Frank Kush's style of coaching, as well as the fact that Irsay was a drunken buffoon

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They should talk about the LA Express signing three OL before signing Young. Two of the OL were projected first rounders; one was Gary Zimmerman now in the HOF . The Express also signed his best friend at BYU a TE, but he blew out his knee as a pro and didn't do much.

  • @swolemole69
    @swolemole69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dean Steinkuler was the guy who made the fumble rooski play

  • @SuperUkcats
    @SuperUkcats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If the XFL is going to survive this time, then Vince better start getting WWE shareholders to pitch in, in order to draft seniors finishing up college. Otherwise, have a nice day!

    • @noproangler9200
      @noproangler9200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The XFL is backed by the NFL this time around. All tryouts and such are recorded into the NFL database. It is essentially the "minor leagues" for the NFL. Unsigned and undrafted players mostly. Think of it as "live game action practice". I think it will stick around this time and probably be a good thing for the NFL as a whole.

    • @SuperUkcats
      @SuperUkcats 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      NoProAngler - And where did you hear this garbage?!

    • @huh8896
      @huh8896 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SuperUkcats he’s saying it’s basically supposed to be the equivalent of the D-League to basketball or the Minors to baseball

    • @SuperUkcats
      @SuperUkcats 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Reeve - Ha! You really expect me to believe Vince is going to bow down to the NFL when he never shows sympathy to other wrestling promoters? He’s already screwing up by being too cheap to pay for big name free agents and college graduates like the USFL did!

  • @neilgoldring4832
    @neilgoldring4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    9:28 =.The Irving Fryar " hey you got all this money, why can't you guarantee my contract?" quote about Trump is soooooooo believable!!!!! LOL😂

  • @Rayeo_TNJ
    @Rayeo_TNJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    9:27 The Art of the Deal right there

  • @toddschneck80
    @toddschneck80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative!

  • @ChazSeamus28
    @ChazSeamus28 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the theme of this is pretty cool! Excellent writers.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Oilers made it 3 straight years that they drafted an OL!! The first two became HOFers- Mike Munchak and Bruce Matthews. Steinkuhler blew out a knee in the first year or two, but he certainly was talented!

    • @MrBaiyifan
      @MrBaiyifan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man, if Steinkuhler had stayed healthy...smh. He was a beast...who could run! That OL would have murdered people.

  • @SB-ov6om
    @SB-ov6om 5 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    When Donald trump creates the USFL but then 25 years later tries to get the Eagles to come to the White House after winning the Super Bowl 😂

    • @dacodawiteout4565
      @dacodawiteout4565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      *35 years*

    • @Musicvidsetc
      @Musicvidsetc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      33 not 25 and Trump didn't "create" the NFL. Trump didn't purchase the New Jersey Generals until after the league had started. Try getting your facts right before commenting.

    • @stupidretard8366
      @stupidretard8366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      He didn't try to get them there, it's tradition that the team that wins the Superbowl visits the president at the White House

    • @jacrispiejackson69
      @jacrispiejackson69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LethalDog 53 that didn’t even make any sense what’s the irony in that or what’s the funny part?

    • @THEHamBot1
      @THEHamBot1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont see how theres any correlation.

  • @johnthesportsarchivist2600
    @johnthesportsarchivist2600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How in the hell are Irving Fryar, Carl Banks, Wilber Marshall, Ernest Byner & Boomer Esiason NOT in the NFL Hall of Fame?

    • @chrishandsome4267
      @chrishandsome4267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John The Sports Archivist great players just not HOF material

    • @johnthesportsarchivist2600
      @johnthesportsarchivist2600 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrishandsome4267 I call BS. Carl Banks was great because LT was great. LT was often double or even triple teamed on virtually every play, which left Banks wide open to get to quarterback or whoever had the ball. And Wilber Marshall is a part of one of the best defenses of all time. Boomer, Fryar & Byner were all very underrated at their positions.

    • @joesmortgageminute8224
      @joesmortgageminute8224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnthesportsarchivist2600 Your first three sentences are an argument to keep Banks OUT of the Hall.

    • @johnthesportsarchivist2600
      @johnthesportsarchivist2600 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joesmortgageminute8224 To me, it'd be all the more reason to put him in.

    • @robertogonzales1956
      @robertogonzales1956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it's called the Hall of Fame not the Hall of a couple Pro Bowls.

  • @mikeyoungblood1642
    @mikeyoungblood1642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The most interesting part for me is the Chargers scout at West Virginia scouting Jeff Hostetler

    • @johnthesportsarchivist2600
      @johnthesportsarchivist2600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He may not have gotten as much of an opportunity in SD. With the Giants however, he was a multi dimensional player. I'm not saying he couldn't have been that in San Diego. But to be fair, they still had Dan Fouts and Kellen Winslow. Unless maybe, they converted him to receiver.

  • @kaleidovision7737
    @kaleidovision7737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the house music in this

  • @brendanmccallion2350
    @brendanmccallion2350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    We're going to build a league. It's going to be the biggest, most beautiful league you've ever seen, believe me. ☝️ And we're going to make the NFL pay for it.

    • @gammawave1739
      @gammawave1739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha so funny. Hes still the president though so in your face, hes still your leader and still runs this cointry better than any other president ever has

    • @jabaricrewsellis8740
      @jabaricrewsellis8740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gammawave1739 "if the mind can be controlled, no need to control the body"

    • @UberKrispy
      @UberKrispy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He is only president temporarily. Sooner or later he will be gone

    • @flch95
      @flch95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brendan McCallion it’s gonna be yuuugggee!!

    • @joediesen1
      @joediesen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The NFL did pay for it. And it only cost them $1.

  • @ramram349
    @ramram349 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking back.............
    it was a really good group of college graduates for both leagues to choose from in 1984.

  • @MountainDewComacho494
    @MountainDewComacho494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved watching the USFL and even attended some games. They didn’t seem well attended. There were some great players and games. It wasn’t as good as the NFL but the USFL did stuff the NFL wouldn’t do.

  • @returnofthemack6295
    @returnofthemack6295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    NFl sure got scared because after that USFL was only to able to play just more full season in 1985 before it was canceled in 1986

    • @salamisumo2
      @salamisumo2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mackenzie Cutshaw If anything, it proved the USFL was grossly incompetent and dysfunctional to lose 163 million dollars and fold that quickly.

    • @jaimefish173
      @jaimefish173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AFF never received the 250 million, it was a lie. They only got 70 million. Some believe there were ulterior motives and folding AFF was the plain all along. @@hawks8830

    • @xmbdesign7421
      @xmbdesign7421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They were scared because of the leverage top football players suddenly had, having a choice of where to play. If there's anything sports leagues hate, it's giving more power to the athletes, lol. ;)

  • @garyrobinson2270
    @garyrobinson2270 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve Gerrad,rightside 11.14mins. Football crossover. Loving video.

  • @Robert-xp4ii
    @Robert-xp4ii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    LOL Loved seeing the high tech computer being used....
    "New England Patriots
    Irving Fryer"
    😂 That was big stuff then.

  • @cxxxxxl
    @cxxxxxl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool video

  • @marcoleone8189
    @marcoleone8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fryar went to 5 Pro Bowls and had over 12,000 yards, 88TD Id say thats mor than a "solid" NFL career! LOL

    • @marcoleone8189
      @marcoleone8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Harry Engel Yes, very true. But I was just talking about the statement that Fryar had a "solid" career and I was saying it was quite good.

  • @dayne357
    @dayne357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    I edited this comment so none of the replies make sense

    • @michaelcookston7795
      @michaelcookston7795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Idiot

    • @dayne357
      @dayne357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@michaelcookston7795 bad day?

    • @JamesThomas-pj2lx
      @JamesThomas-pj2lx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol the entire reason i voted johnson was usfl. if the smug could have contained itself i'd have voted johnson again in 2020.

    • @nalimlattarai2873
      @nalimlattarai2873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      James Thomas huh

    • @dadshirt6681
      @dadshirt6681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is cringey

  • @darkchocolate3390
    @darkchocolate3390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    9:25 LMAO, Trump has always been cheap.

    • @jacrispiejackson69
      @jacrispiejackson69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      DarkChocolate33 won’t get rich giving away money like it’s nothing

    • @Jesushates6969
      @Jesushates6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@jacrispiejackson69 yeah he doesn't give away money even to his own workers whom he owes money too

    • @nickchristopoulos8138
      @nickchristopoulos8138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Jesushates6969 love how liberals always claim to be compassionate and then throw around homophobic terms... the hypocrisy is amazing..

    • @afvet5075
      @afvet5075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The NFL was cheaper. Trump knew that it might not work out and did not want to be on the hook for paying huge contracts like the LA Express did with Steve Young who got $40 million dollars for playing one season for the USFL.
      Trump was smart not cheap. If the USFL would have worked out he would have paid. That is called good business.

    • @schooper.
      @schooper. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice pfp

  • @Chase0370
    @Chase0370 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Had to absolutely suck being a Bucs fan back to back #1 picks one of which you weren't apart of. Taking the one good thing about away about being atrocious.

    • @jaycoleman6552
      @jaycoleman6552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *_*a part_** , two words.
      Apart means to split.

  • @KaitlynnUK
    @KaitlynnUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was all the modern footage of the 1984 NFL Draft room shot? Is there a recreation of it somewhere? I tried Google with no luck.

  • @MadAngel209
    @MadAngel209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Cincinnati Bengals had a chance to sign Steve Young? That's a new one on me.

    • @williamherbert
      @williamherbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably would have changed the entire history of the league

  • @RCfromtheNYC
    @RCfromtheNYC 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, folks! Perhaps a more in-depth video on the NFL vs. The USFL, from the NFL's viewpoint, would be cool.

  • @claudiusgreen2791
    @claudiusgreen2791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see the full episode of "1984" uploaded to get the full story.

    • @Mr05Chuck
      @Mr05Chuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read the book

  • @jackhovatter
    @jackhovatter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to elementary school with Jeff Hostetlers son in Morgantown, hell of a nice guy

  • @JosephCantu-qq1yr
    @JosephCantu-qq1yr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy that Selmons career ended in 84. Another universe had a Bucs D with Selmons and Reggie White with Hugh Green behind them

  • @TiltBrook
    @TiltBrook 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have yet another (interesting/exiting) birth of a new league with the “new” XFL. With all the past trail and errors..including their own, and as recent as the AAF,.. you would think that this may have a shot!? It’s always cool when something comes around to make the NFL sweat at least just a little bit. All the while giving more guys a chance and TV platform...nothing wrong with that!

  • @FalloutProfile
    @FalloutProfile 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First guy in that movie looks like admiral tarkin from Star Wars

    • @TheJoeyStylez
      @TheJoeyStylez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's because it IS Tarkin, or rather the man who played him Peter Cushing.

    • @FalloutProfile
      @FalloutProfile 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheJoeyStylez wow he acted so long. RIP

  • @quintonmarksberry
    @quintonmarksberry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seeing this as a Bengals really makes me so mad lol. We could've had STEVE YOUNG! But damn it would be hard to turn down that kind of money back in the day. They should make a NifL about Steve Young going to the Bengals instead of the LA Express.

    • @big8dog887
      @big8dog887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Steve Young vs. Joe Montana in the Super Bowl with nobody understanding why this is a huge deal in a different timeline.

    • @rhumba2004
      @rhumba2004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It took Steve Young like 6 years to be good; he didn't do much with the Bucs

    • @BTLAGS
      @BTLAGS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rhumba2004 The bucs were a bad team. Their ownership was trash and cared about making money not winning games. Their were one of those teams your career was going to end or it was your last stop. They could have had Bo jackson but they screwed him over and he didnt want to play for them after that.

  • @mikewack6778
    @mikewack6778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was on my reccomended on the same day the USFL announced it was coming back

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A couple players who were drafted in the 84 draft actually signed with the USFL. Leonard Coleman and Mossy Cade. I don’t think any NFL team drafted a player who had already signed with the USFL.

    • @Lawomenshoops
      @Lawomenshoops 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fries The NFL held the USFL Supplemental Draft in June of 84. The USFL season was still going on.

  • @ArtifisticA
    @ArtifisticA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still miss my Arizona Wranglers/Outlaws

  • @xtremewrapsapparel5872
    @xtremewrapsapparel5872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In that last video you show Sean Jones (Jets) being sacked and when you watch its O’Brien not Jones in the clip.... lmao

  • @mattchewhadaway167
    @mattchewhadaway167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    stop saying big brother so much, jesus I get it haha. Great vid in general though

  • @zigwald
    @zigwald 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Boomer was an NFL MVP in 88. started a super bowl.

    • @THETOYFROMTHESCHANNEL
      @THETOYFROMTHESCHANNEL 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      just want to point out that the super bowl bowl boomer started in the offense didnt score a touchdown

  • @micshork
    @micshork 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They’re Back!

  • @johnthesportsarchivist2600
    @johnthesportsarchivist2600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine if the USFL had stuck around... Man, we'd have wars like you wouldn't even believe.

  • @robvegart
    @robvegart 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They won the suit, but lost the money... I miss the NJ Generals.... It would've been great merging the teams at the time. I don't think we would ever have expansion though like the Jags and Panthers... Although the Carolina's did need a football team given their history of collegiate bigs in the NCAA....

  • @jcb3393
    @jcb3393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:29 - amazing that he became the backup QB to Simms who ended up being the Super Bowl QB that got them through the playoffs.

    • @75aces97
      @75aces97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shows you how different the pre salary cap NFL was. If a team didn't mind spending money, they could hoard backup quarterbacks like Steve Young and Hostetler on the roster for years while some teams had to start Bubby Brister.

    • @rcreed77
      @rcreed77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@75aces97 🤣🤣🤣

  • @carsonbeeman5796
    @carsonbeeman5796 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When they will make an episode on Tom dundon soon

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      12th of never, cause, like his scam artist mentor Mark Cuban hes one of the media's good guys, also kinda like how the UFL debacle never touched the Pelosis

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jesushates6969 #LOWIQBERNIEBOT

  • @holeefok2835
    @holeefok2835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    So the NFL had a WCW back in the day

    • @andrewarmstrong7254
      @andrewarmstrong7254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      WCW was actually winning at some point, this is more like TNA.

    • @MrPapageorgio10
      @MrPapageorgio10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andrew Armstrong The USFL was very successful in getting top talent to their league. If they would’ve stayed in the spring instead of listening to Trump, they wouldn’t have folded in 1986.
      The USFL definitely wasn’t like TNA!

    • @andrewarmstrong7254
      @andrewarmstrong7254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrPapageorgio10 Point taken. TNA still exists too.

    • @chrish931
      @chrish931 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewarmstrong7254 Yes but it wasn't the USFL it was the AFL and its now called the AFC and its the reason the Super Bowl exist.

    • @avalsonline2
      @avalsonline2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is unfair. WCW actually competed against he WWE for a decent amount of time.

  • @homelesssmurf2814
    @homelesssmurf2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't finish the video too many ads. Hope the next video I see from you guys has less. Dont think I'll be the only one to stop watching your videos.

    • @kurtiswoods780
      @kurtiswoods780 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Service or spam issue dude, video is coasting or corrected

    • @homelesssmurf2814
      @homelesssmurf2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kurtiswoods780 Yeah it was filled with ads. Not as much anymore.

  • @FrankLee-qd3hy
    @FrankLee-qd3hy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Dad had season tickets for the Oakland Invaders. Warm weather football was weird...

  • @ooammo632
    @ooammo632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if i see another grammerly commercial im gonna pop my top

  • @DieYuppieScum91
    @DieYuppieScum91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a borderline crime that Carl Banks isn't in the Hall.

  • @tylergreene8310
    @tylergreene8310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What song is that “football stars”?????

  • @WoeIsLee
    @WoeIsLee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sooooo what woulda happened if an NFL team just drafted said USFL player anyways?

    • @aramanon
      @aramanon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Draft isn't law, just rules that NFL teams follow. If they sign a legal USFL employment contract that's it.

    • @Musicvidsetc
      @Musicvidsetc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I remember correctly they had the rights to that player for 5 years (the length of a rookie contract back then). Irv Eatman, Anthony Carter and a few other USFL players were drafted by the NFL in the '83 draft and the teams that drafted them still owned their rights when they made their way into the NFL in '85 and '86.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Musicvidsetc Jim Kelly

    • @Musicvidsetc
      @Musicvidsetc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mgb4692 Yes! That's right. Kelly too. I think he was the only HoFer to be drafted in '83 who played in the USFL first.

    • @Jesushates6969
      @Jesushates6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Musicvidsetc you remember them but not Steve Young, Reggie White or Herschel Walker? Christ Almighty

  • @peakperformancetrain
    @peakperformancetrain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boyd Eply, secret weapon !!! Huskers were ahead of the curve.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jimmy Johnson had somebody put a number value on each draft slot. Say #1 pick is 400 points. So, if you trade that pick you should get close to those points. If you the #26 pick is worth 300 points, and you get the 35th and 55th pick, those two picks numerical value must equal to 300 points.
    So, the Bengals in 84 traded the #1 pick for the #16 and #28 and a 5th in 85 that turned out to #129. Did the Bengals get enough for the #1 pick in 84?

  • @TickleSalty
    @TickleSalty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the USFL/NFL lawsuit trial, Trump claimed he and Pete Rozelle were good friends and Rozelle had promised him he’d be the owner of an NFL franchise. Rozelle testified that he hardly knew Trump, and said Trump would never be an NFL owner and that the other NFL owners would never allow him in. The truth is, Trump had way more enemies than he had friends.

  • @skwira000
    @skwira000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was not about the national anthem. It was Trump trying to get revenge.

  • @JacionBryant
    @JacionBryant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a certified hood classic

  • @omegaman6193
    @omegaman6193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder what ever happened to the New Jersey Generals’ owner that was ultimately the catalyst of the league folding. He’s probably dead.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes J Walter Duncan died in 2009

    • @jaycoleman6552
      @jaycoleman6552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *_*whatever_** , one word.

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trump wasn't the catalyst. He was the final nail. The owners not listening to the founder and overspending. They expanded way too much too soon. If you want to see how inept the USFL owners were, research the San Antonio Gunslingers

  • @johnj.todora4128
    @johnj.todora4128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blown away that the NFL actually filmed something that called themselves "big brother". Wow

    • @jakelaxton7869
      @jakelaxton7869 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John J. Todora um buddy they never did.

    • @johnj.todora4128
      @johnj.todora4128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakelaxton7869 The logo says "NFL Films" at the bottom buddy. The channel we are watching this is NFL FIlms . NFL FIlms is currently owned by the NFL and produces most of its filmed and videotaped content except its live game coverage. Are you saying that someone else made this and the NFL just put this on their channel?

  • @mikeschmidt4800
    @mikeschmidt4800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I keep telling my son that NU used to be the Bama of it's time. Imagine the top 3 picks coming from one school.

    • @SoparlaX
      @SoparlaX ปีที่แล้ว

      who's NU again?

  • @covid699
    @covid699 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What of the NFL made a second division similar to football (soccer) leagues in europe? Would they make more money?

  • @danielkelegian5306
    @danielkelegian5306 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Howard Blazer said Irving Fryar had a good, solid NFL career. WTF is he smoking? I guess 851 REC, over 12,785 yds and 84 TD's is considered good and solid by some folk. He also finished with 15,594 APY.

  • @nathanchristopherson5793
    @nathanchristopherson5793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this whole video felt like a fever dream

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember as a kid reading about this stuff in Sports Illustrated.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The USFL who had three player who would have been the #1 overall pick in the NFL draft- Herchel Walker, Mike Rozier and Steve Young.

  • @KMcNally117
    @KMcNally117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:05 Steve Young: delete this

  • @The.Kyle.Scott.
    @The.Kyle.Scott. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a shame that the NFL let the AAF fold. It could have been acquired or absorbed by the NFL and used as a developmental league. Give them a 8-12 week season, cheap contracts, and ultimately players develop into NFL-ready prospects. Or they never get good enough for the NFL as players, but they still get paychecks and could become coaches/get jobs in either league. Oh well. Rip AAF

    • @BTLAGS
      @BTLAGS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Rondough Howell The USFL was more about forcing a merger and beating the NFL than anything else. Thats why they were paying top dollar for players like the Old AFL did. The difference was the NFL was prepared plus The old AFL had better ownership than the leagues that have come in since. Lamar Hunt, Bud Adams, Ralph Wilson and Al Davis. The AAF was trying to become more of a developmental league for the NFL.

  • @luisvaldes1568
    @luisvaldes1568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the 84 Draft, I had day off from work.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before Bobby Beathard was known for the GM that draft Ryan Leaf, he was the GM who would trade away his team's #1 pick next year, for this year's 2nd round pick. Then that player who was drafted by Bobby usually turned out to be bust! Certainly not with trading a #1 pick. Natrone Means was pretty good. But, guys like Walter Murray, Eric Moten, and Bryan Still who all not worth a #1 pick. Moten cost the Chargers the #6 overall pick in 1992. But, the Bengals took David Klinger, a bust of a QB.

  • @joebarrett7651
    @joebarrett7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If generals with Jim Kelly and Hershel Walker got to NFL shall we say history would be changed

    • @gski201
      @gski201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kelly played in Houston, the Gamblers I think... Not in Jersey...

    • @joebarrett7651
      @joebarrett7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gski201 I thought they were gonna merge teams

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joebarrett7651 Yes, the Gamblers did merge with the Generals in the spring of 1986, anticipating a fall season. Kelly appeared on the cover of SI in a Generals uniform. But after the antitrust trial, the USFL shut down rather than play in the fall.

    • @KeithFroehlich07
      @KeithFroehlich07 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@gski201
      Before the last season that was never played the gamblers merged with the generals..
      He wanted to play in Pittsburgh if the league folded, he did not want to go to Buffalo.

  • @franchisefanatics6536
    @franchisefanatics6536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Competition always brings out the best. Notice theres been no competition for the NFL in the past two decades.

  • @MarloSoBalJr
    @MarloSoBalJr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I swear, I was born in 1993 but man the Irsays piss me off as a Baltimorean.

  • @Football__Junkie
    @Football__Junkie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That wasn’t Winston Smith in 1984, it was Grand Moff Tarkin

    • @Damon089
      @Damon089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "I think you overestimate their chances!"

    • @Football__Junkie
      @Football__Junkie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fear. Fear is what keeps more football leagues from forming. Fear of this battle station called the NFL.

  • @joejamros
    @joejamros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Steve Young picked NFL instead of USFL?

  • @123abcDamion
    @123abcDamion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, Carl Banks is not in the HOF

  • @hazi5961
    @hazi5961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Carl Banks should be in the HoF

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tells you how much Osbourne blew it in the 1984 Orange Bowl allowing that great Nebraska team to lose to Miami. Top three players would've been from his team.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would make a good alternate history story: what if the Cornhuskers made that 2-point conversion and won the Orange Bowl 32-31?

    • @MrBaiyifan
      @MrBaiyifan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NJGuy1973 The play was there, but still never liked the call. Run the ball behind your All-World center and call it a day. Smh...

  • @dcarman686
    @dcarman686 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam that was a good exciting league

  • @blahblahblah5155
    @blahblahblah5155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bengals fans punching air over Steve young 😂

  • @acemartinez9518
    @acemartinez9518 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the song

  • @josephmiller4497
    @josephmiller4497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deberg is like Alex Smith of today they sign then they draft a superstar rookie to take your job deberg lost his job to young, Montana , and somebody else can't then smith in sf then KC and Washington but this time the kid didn't work and both were good QBs

  • @ericveneto1593
    @ericveneto1593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IT WAS AN ANNUITY! ;)

  • @sonnydarko5690
    @sonnydarko5690 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All smart moves

  • @kylegoodreau2170
    @kylegoodreau2170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    CAUGHT IN THE DRAFT 1984

  • @angrybirdz9287
    @angrybirdz9287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the year I was born!
    How ya like dem apples? 🍎or 🍏

  • @shallowshit
    @shallowshit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carl banks is in the hall of fame