I recently had a Byzantium campaign. Same allying Knights and Albania strat, but less maneuvring and lot of mercs. And of course culture converting all turks into greeks. ^^
Sadly the Knights raid you anyways after the 1.30.2 update. Avoid battles. Scorch land on enemy occupations. Follow behind the Ottomans. Siege back the occupations they make with the assistance of the Naval blockade/barrage = win. If you guys need help with nitty gritty like micromanagement. The best way its to watch other people play. You can watch my live stream here. Thanks for watching and Goodluck! www.twitch.tv/budgetmonk119
I believe the fort in Gallipoli is sometimes also not maintained when you attack, tried this myself 2 times, got both Kocaeli and Gallipoli at the start
@@BudgetMonk if you move your troops to away from Constantinople they should mothball it since you have no troops nearby, then just DoW at good time and transport your troops back and take it, it depends i guess
I have 1100 hours in game and still finding it very difficult, you can win the first war pretty easy but man even if you do win then 10 years later your getting attacked by venice/naples/hungary/poland its so tiring.
Monk: Epirus has 50% chance to have no ally, 50% to get Genoa or The Knights. Epirus in my games: Albania and Genoa, Venice, Venice . . . That's the reason I dislike watching guides. Love your stream though.
They pretty much did. They sought and bought Genoese and Venetian naval and mercenary aid, and even took out massive loans. Loans were somewhat of a novelty (in terms of acquiring monetary capital at interest and not other valuables) in those days though, so their effect would be much lower than the game suggests (despite the IRL numbers being massively larger). One of the hard-to-solve problems they had was that they ruled over a small rump state that was known for its infighting, corruption and disloyalty... but even that had been overcome before. In the end, the Eastern Roman State had not enough people willing to die defending it (especially outside Constantinople, where people had been ravaged by war for centuries), while its enemies where full of people willing to do just that. Mercenary empires never last.
@@solaraspect5255 "not enough people willing to die defending it"- after all, inequality was extremely bad at this point. The poor saw no opportunities and were rather disenfranchised.
Same man I could watch this 100 times and still be clueless about what exactly he's trying to communicate with the transportation of troops at the beginning.
It's not that hard lol, just a bit of luck and spamming the improve relations button. In my case I got very lucky because I'm not a good eu4 player lol
well, that's interesting i had sucess by getting allies until i was sure they wouldn't declare on me first. then waited for them to declare against one of the anatolian minors, got my troops to constantinople, and used my navy to bombard the gallipoli fort and stormed the walls as the fort wasn't full, effectively stucking them in anatolia this strategy worked wonders and i was even able to beat the ottos, aq and tunis together by my own, as tunis kept landing troops in the balkans and i was just there waiting to kill them, until i could white peace them. however there is a problem that's happening is that if the ottomans lose the first war, the mamluks will eat half of anatolia(it was common before, but not the way it is now) and austria getting gigantic, effectively stalling your advance in the balkans. the midgame is way harder in this patch than the first war
Fortunately as Byzantium you can expand across the Mediterranean so if Naples went free you can take them over and can take what you can from left over ottomans. If you build strong alliances too and tech up the mamluks won’t be able to match up and you could pull something off. With that great start though anything is plausible and with rngjesus you can pull it off, hope It goes well!
@@spectre4165 In my case, naple joined the HRE, along with every one small enough to join. So it maybe a bad idea. Also it remind me not to play Byzantium immediately after an major update
@@spectre4165 It has been, thankfully. I believe the patch notes said something like: "Fixed countries ignoring logic when deciding to join the HRE". Always hate it when countries ignore logic...
In 1.28 I absolutely BTFOd the Mamluks whose armies were twice the size of mine and roughly equal in quality. The first step is to gain absolute naval superiority (which should be your focus since 1444), consolidate your navies in Constantinople, delete all forts you have in Anatolia, declare war and let them occupy your Anatolian lands (this will give you war exhaustion but it's not a deciding factor). Wait for their stacks to try to cross the strait into Constantinople or the adjacent province, move into that province once their stack is locked (you will arrive before them and they won't be able to cancel their movement) and time your navy precisely so that it moves into the sea tile just a day after letting 1 of their stacks cross. This way you will always fight with a terrain advantage and most likely also superior numbers since their stacks won't be moving at the same speed, meaning you will only be fighting 1 at a time. Stackwiping individual armies will be easy since they won't have anywhere to go after losing a battle. Keep doing this until their nunbers dwindle and you have a strong numerical advantage, then liberate your Anatolian provinces, siege them down and finish the war.
Your tutorial on 1.28 led me to my succesful Byzantium WC run (I thought I would make it One Faith too but I was two Americas short) and I am tempted to try this again. Great job as usual.
@@dongiovanni1248 The Vital interest thingies. Also the forts I think can only be deleted or mothballed with Art of War. Also, the Trust system to promise land is Art of War as well.
I told myself that I wouldn't play as Byzantium for some time after having to look up your guide on how to get a good start as the 10 quick imperial authority nation, but I might just play another round after seeing this video, unless there's a need to modify this strategy too much.
I did almost the same strategy except screw Epirus, alliance with Knights. In my case Turks started to siege Albania, while I occupied kocakeli fort and then ancara, at the same time occupied all the forts on balcans. I got about 50 peace deal score which was enough to get all cores except edirne. Then builded a lot of galleys and in the next war took all of bulgaria and the the rest of anatolia in 2 wars. But you did better completely crushing the ottomans in the first war :) And I didn`t do this mess with the estates, just gave some privileges to them and took 5 loans from burgers for 1%, very useful in the begining. My army was 11 regiments + 4 the worsts mercs which you also hired, that all was enough.
Thanks for yourprecious guide, I was waiting for it since eu4 relese 1.30 patch. I have some question for you:1. How much troops I have to recruit before declere war? 2. Do you recruit other troops during the war? 3. Vassalize Epirus for some help in the naval warfare, but at May 1446, when we should attack, they are a disloyal vassal. 4. The fleet should be composed by 9 light ships, 5 galley and 6 transport ships ? 5. For sigeing Sugla, where you take the troops ? Trying other aproch is hard I successfull defeat Ottomans only thanks Venice, because of I garantee Albania. The other attemps, I ally Hungary, Albania, Walachia, the Khnights, and I have as vassal Epirus and Athens. Unluckily during the war Poland warning me and evrythings goes wrong.
What is the name of the music between 12:14 and 13:30 ? Also thank you for posting this guide, I used the methods you used and I achieved success in 3rd try. I took all the cores except Edirne and Kırklareli. I got like 466 golds instead.
This might be stupid, but I am struggeling insanly as Najd to get the "Jihad" challange. Either ottomans stomp or mamelukes, and I just can't seem to tackle either. Any chance you might do a video on it?
1:17 but don't the galleys get a combat bonus in the Mediterranean? Is it not a big enough bonus to justify the sailor cost? And galleys are also cheaper.
it's about sailor efficiency to cannon: you use 50 sailor for 8 cannons in a light, while using 100 sailors for 10 cannons on a galley. also, loans IS just a number
Ugh I can't do this. First time I tried I only got coastal provinces along the Aegean, and later Naples, Genoa, and Venice declared war on me. That ended that playthrough. Second time, I just can't beat the Ottomans. Their armies seem to be much smarter and targeting mine than occupying provinces like they did the first time around. Half the time I can siege Kocaeli but never Selanik.
For fellows Byzantium players, there are serious bug where if you take money in a war where you take a lot of territories, any amount of money you ask for would be reset to 1 after you submit the peace proposal. Meaning if you want to take 1000 ducats from ottoman to repay your loans, they would only give you 1 ducat and a fuck you instead. Take war reparation only instead if you don't have enough warscore to get both money and war reparation.
"So I guess my strategy in a nutshell guys is to just attack the Ottoman Empire AND JUST DESTROY THEM" - BudgetMonk 2020 For reals though, that is pretty sick. Well done!
So it is only possible with cossacks? I tried this, but Knights and Albania did not wanted to go to war against Ottomans, and eventually I wanted to try alone, but Ottomans attacked me first with about 27k soldiers on european part of their empire, also attacked my 6k stack in consantinople before I could retreat. I got squashed.
In my first try Naples immediately gained independence and allied the ottomans with AQ. This was after I had conquered candar and epirus as well and got a +1 stab event.
I also found the first war pretty easy this patch. I picked byzantium just to try them out with no particular strategy and with Serbia as an ally and Epirus as vassal completely crushed the ottomans. No restarts first try. Struggled a lot with economy though because i fuked up the new estate interactions. Just didnt read them properly.
Hey BudgetMonk, We, the Byz fans thank you for another cool Byz video. Let the true Rome rise again! I haven't played the 1.30 update but in the 1.28.3 version I use a slightly different strategy: Instead of attacking the Ottomans, I let them attack me, around 1446. Using Albania and Wallachia as allies while rivaling Serbia. So, I siege down the Salonica (or don't have to if I'm lucky and they attack early in the month) and Kocaeli forts while letting them siege down Constantinople. I carpet siege the Balkans and West Asia Minor and then attacking the Ottoman stack with all my forces in Constantinople. The second battle after this is a stackwipe and the war is over around 1448. The big difference with your way, however, is not in the tactics but in the peace deal: instead of taking my cores back, I demand Edirne (the coastal fort, Gelibolu now), Salonika, Uskup, Kocaeli, Bolu and Ankara, plus war reps and all his money. This way I get 4 out of 5 of his forts, making future wars much easier. Additionally, I get a border with Serbia (which is usually attacked that time by Venice and maybe Hungary) and I almost immediately attack him as well. An easy war to get Kosovo and all other provinces he is left with, except for Rasca which I leave to him in order to humiliate him. So, by 1450 I already have an Age Objective fulfilled and >50 Power Projection. By taking the Ottos money and getting them into loans, it makes the Mamluks much more likely to attack them in just two years. And by improving relations with the Mamluks they usually return my cores for free. With this peace deal I also have a border with Candar and Karaman (which I rival) which are my next targets. Most of the time, by these wars I manage to get Ramazan (from Karaman) and Ayntab (from Dulkadir, ally of Candar), so that by 1455 I already have fulfilled a second Age Objective (Present on two continents). And by vassallising Candar (and giving him the muslim provinces, Bolu, Ankara etc) I open another way of expansion into the Caucasus. So that, in 30-40 years I am already a great power! What do you think? Would you like to give it a try?
Just try it this morning and it was very effective. Already won the second war against Venice. Maybe the first time a byzantine run was so eeasy to process.
I've been able to defeat the Ottomans the few times I've tried playing Byzantium, however every time I do I get destroyed by the Mamluks after they annex the eastern half of Anatolia. Do you have any recommendations for dealing with them?
Rush georgia too to get its money. Georgia has really good provinces. Take theodoro then trebizond then georgia. In the end it will help you to get an army to defeat the mamelouks
I just used my current starting fleet and blockaded the straight, declaring war in the june of 1445, not even letting a year pass. Even tho they have more ships they don't attack for some reason, and if you DoW before a year has gone they won't have tine to deploy their new galleys that they always start
I did everything 100% identical to the video. At the start of the ottoman war, skanderbeg did not attach, and the Ottoman 15K stack attacked and stackwiped my 13K stack in selanik. I don't know what this talk of the AI bee lining for Athens is about.
I was really surprise with 1.30, Ottomans didn't attacked Byzantium at all before 1460 at least in my current game. In 1.29, Constantinople was often taken in the first year even before the Maine incident fired in France.
Tried it 3 times, first time albania had a revolt so lost manpower and wouldnt join. Second two times one of the Ottoman Stacks moved to Selanik in the first month and stack wiped me when I got there :/
Any tips for playing The Knights into Jerusalem in the current patch? I'm an above average EU4 player and after at least a dozen attempts I have given up. I don't want to wait for the Mamluks to be weak, I want to beat the Ottomans within a decade.
@@erikdk321 Provence can from Jerusalem , and is In a Unique spot to ally France, Castile and Austria while maybe joining the HRE. its mission tree has some cool stuff like -20% dip annex cost for rest of the game. No CB into africa and snake to the gold mine if money is an issue, then if you just follow the mission tree into a PU on naples. Still two of my fave nations to play good luck bro
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The classic greek strategy: taking loans
You can do without loans, if you use Monopoly on wine and Monopoly on glass privileges. They give quite much money.
lol
@@derekcollins9739 that is very anti-patriotic, its not true byzantium if you aren't in debt.
now that is some seriously heavy humor cannon right there
that's what they did today for retaking the Constantinople
After all these years, after all the patches . The challenge is still on!
the real Byzantium challenge is on Very Hard difficulty. Last two runs on iron man took me on average 200 years before retaking Constantinople.
Can't wait for "How to own as Byzantium 1.453".
xD
How to own Byzantium in 1.453 as Ottomans
Big oof
Can’t believe you went there smh
Too soon, man...
I recently had a Byzantium campaign. Same allying Knights and Albania strat, but less maneuvring and lot of mercs.
And of course culture converting all turks into greeks. ^^
Always warms an EUIV players heart to see a thick Byzantium
U not the only one son
xD even the turkish ones
Lol i gotta say as a turk i got pretty mad at the ottomans when they ruined my game.
True
@@AxianMapping what are ya doin here
Sadly the Knights raid you anyways after the 1.30.2 update. Avoid battles. Scorch land on enemy occupations. Follow behind the Ottomans. Siege back the occupations they make with the assistance of the Naval blockade/barrage = win.
If you guys need help with nitty gritty like micromanagement. The best way its to watch other people play. You can watch my live stream here. Thanks for watching and Goodluck!
www.twitch.tv/budgetmonk119
I believe the fort in Gallipoli is sometimes also not maintained when you attack, tried this myself 2 times, got both Kocaeli and Gallipoli at the start
Hello budgetmonk, i guaranteed the knights and they still raided my coasts putting them at - 100 opinion meaning no alliance . Should i reload?
doable on very hard ?
Thanks for the video. I look forward to this every patch!
Fabian tactics
easier than 1.29, ottomans mothball Gallipoli so you can easily do naval strategy
In my case it was not mothballed. It is very often the case that they maintain at least 1 fort. Due to some perceived threat to the stupid AI.
@@BudgetMonk if you move your troops to away from Constantinople they should mothball it since you have no troops nearby, then just DoW at good time and transport your troops back and take it, it depends i guess
Ah the good old naval invasion at Gallipoli
@@joshuabarnes3846 what could go wrong?
I have 1100 hours in game and still finding it very difficult, you can win the first war pretty easy but man even if you do win then 10 years later your getting attacked by venice/naples/hungary/poland its so tiring.
Monk: Epirus has 50% chance to have no ally, 50% to get Genoa or The Knights.
Epirus in my games: Albania and Genoa, Venice, Venice . . . That's the reason I dislike watching guides.
Love your stream though.
In my game they allied the pope
Why didn't Byzantine do this in real life
they just should have asked Monk!
They pretty much did. They sought and bought Genoese and Venetian naval and mercenary aid, and even took out massive loans. Loans were somewhat of a novelty (in terms of acquiring monetary capital at interest and not other valuables) in those days though, so their effect would be much lower than the game suggests (despite the IRL numbers being massively larger).
One of the hard-to-solve problems they had was that they ruled over a small rump state that was known for its infighting, corruption and disloyalty... but even that had been overcome before. In the end, the Eastern Roman State had not enough people willing to die defending it (especially outside Constantinople, where people had been ravaged by war for centuries), while its enemies where full of people willing to do just that. Mercenary empires never last.
@@solaraspect5255 it's the hard truth and an even harder pill to swallow.
Because ottomans was not nerfed to the ground in reality :d
@@solaraspect5255 "not enough people willing to die defending it"- after all, inequality was extremely bad at this point. The poor saw no opportunities and were rather disenfranchised.
me : struggles to beat pomerania as Brandenburg
him : casually destroy ottoman as Byzantium
wow, you are n00b. Are you proud?
@@TheGawron666 i guess i didn't spent a lot of hours in the game.
Ahhhh time to open console....
@@BocchiSensei sad but relatable
@@admiralmudkip9836 *cracks knuckles*
Cash 99999
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Holy crap, slow down.
Some of the stuff you did was barely shown in a couple of frames.
So much this lol.
I still cant even hear what he says at the start about who he guarantees
you can slow playback
@@cptbeeeeee true but still
Same man I could watch this 100 times and still be clueless about what exactly he's trying to communicate with the transportation of troops at the beginning.
The update came out six days ago, and you already know how to own as Byzantium. You are a legend, sir.
It only takes half a brain to figure out how to beat them lol. Not a legend, its simple
@@iben3271 i agree, managed it easily enough the day the patch came out
It's not that hard lol, just a bit of luck and spamming the improve relations button. In my case I got very lucky because I'm not a good eu4 player lol
BudgetMonk: Owns as Byzantium
BudgetMonk1.30: Wanna see me do it again?
11:43
of course! Why didn't I think of that?
well, that's interesting
i had sucess by getting allies until i was sure they wouldn't declare on me first. then waited for them to declare against one of the anatolian minors, got my troops to constantinople, and used my navy to bombard the gallipoli fort and stormed the walls as the fort wasn't full, effectively stucking them in anatolia
this strategy worked wonders and i was even able to beat the ottos, aq and tunis together by my own, as tunis kept landing troops in the balkans and i was just there waiting to kill them, until i could white peace them. however there is a problem that's happening is that if the ottomans lose the first war, the mamluks will eat half of anatolia(it was common before, but not the way it is now) and austria getting gigantic, effectively stalling your advance in the balkans.
the midgame is way harder in this patch than the first war
Fortunately as Byzantium you can expand across the Mediterranean so if Naples went free you can take them over and can take what you can from left over ottomans. If you build strong alliances too and tech up the mamluks won’t be able to match up and you could pull something off. With that great start though anything is plausible and with rngjesus you can pull it off, hope It goes well!
@@spectre4165 In my case, naple joined the HRE, along with every one small enough to join. So it maybe a bad idea. Also it remind me not to play Byzantium immediately after an major update
PrimalForlorn yeah fortunately I believe it’s been patched out now
@@spectre4165 It has been, thankfully. I believe the patch notes said something like: "Fixed countries ignoring logic when deciding to join the HRE". Always hate it when countries ignore logic...
In 1.28 I absolutely BTFOd the Mamluks whose armies were twice the size of mine and roughly equal in quality. The first step is to gain absolute naval superiority (which should be your focus since 1444), consolidate your navies in Constantinople, delete all forts you have in Anatolia, declare war and let them occupy your Anatolian lands (this will give you war exhaustion but it's not a deciding factor). Wait for their stacks to try to cross the strait into Constantinople or the adjacent province, move into that province once their stack is locked (you will arrive before them and they won't be able to cancel their movement) and time your navy precisely so that it moves into the sea tile just a day after letting 1 of their stacks cross. This way you will always fight with a terrain advantage and most likely also superior numbers since their stacks won't be moving at the same speed, meaning you will only be fighting 1 at a time. Stackwiping individual armies will be easy since they won't have anywhere to go after losing a battle. Keep doing this until their nunbers dwindle and you have a strong numerical advantage, then liberate your Anatolian provinces, siege them down and finish the war.
I really love this new style you've got going! The music was a good touch
I was waiting for this video! Thank you for the great content Monk
Your tutorial on 1.28 led me to my succesful Byzantium WC run (I thought I would make it One Faith too but I was two Americas short) and I am tempted to try this again. Great job as usual.
I don’t play this game, I just like watching and being confused by what the hell hes soing
I play this game, I also like watching and being confused by what the hell he's doing
I think I'm having a bit of nostalgia of a series about Byzantium... T_T
Did they change something? Now they are just bringing 30k to wherever I'm seiging
Been watching this same video every patch for years 😂 keep em comming
Everytime I take a long break from eu4, BudgetMonk always has to make a new Byzantium video and it just thrusts me back into playing.
I love that you do that on every patch, we byzantine fanboys have need of it.
The Video we have been waiting for
Thanks BudgetMonk :)
As soon as possible, thx BudgetMonk, we love YOU)
Unit Maintenance advisor reduces unit costs more than the cost of having an advisor.
I did this and immediately had Venice and Genoa attack me, then later Naples
F
What game are you playing ?
I'd kill for that, usually I have to wait until I'm strong enough to take on their whole trade league just for a couple provinces
You need to secure an alliances quick.
Have some alliances, silly
Thank you for the video! Would love to see a Very Hard version as well :)
That stack wipe was so juicy, warms the heart.
ty so much this was my first succesful byzantie run
The music is very fitting for this epic vid wish I knew what it was.
This guide may be noobproof
But i can't do half of the actions you do because i don't have DLCs
which one would be needed in this case to do it like him?
@@dongiovanni1248 The Vital interest thingies. Also the forts I think can only be deleted or mothballed with Art of War.
Also, the Trust system to promise land is Art of War as well.
@@martinhorvath4117 Forts can be deleted and mothballed without Art of War, source: I have it disabled
The main one is coastal bombardment, i couldn't justify golden century
Just pirate the full game.
cool video, I am excited about your Hungary campaign
AMAZING STRATEGY!!!
Could you tell us what music you did use for the video? These fanfares were amazing.
Yes, yees, YEEESSSS! Gonna try my 5th run as True Rome, let's see how it goes.
that ottoman stackwipe is soooooo satisfying
“The Every Patch Byzantium Guide Video” is with us then.
‘I find that you can typically beat the ottomans in a one for one battle as long as you outnumber them’
Mkay...
Tip! Give the forts to one of your vassals when conquer. You can always get it back and the cost you dont have.
i have been waiting for this video :D
*Finally, the long awaited sequel*
Guess i'm just crap at the game because i can't do it to save my life, despite following everything you do step by step.
Cause you need DLCs to win basically
Same
@@0Ploxx why do you need the dlc ?
The Phoenix rises one more time.
It's 10.20 am and I've just woke up to the notification sound of the video👌.
I told myself that I wouldn't play as Byzantium for some time after having to look up your guide on how to get a good start as the 10 quick imperial authority nation, but I might just play another round after seeing this video, unless there's a need to modify this strategy too much.
"The Knights entered military alliance with Epirus"... 😓
Also Ottomans keep a full stack of troops on their capital of Edirne next to Constantinople.
Great guide! Guaranteed the knights and still got raided, lol
Been waiting for this for weeks.
Odds Bodkin same
I love the two outcomes when i try to take Epirus
1. Epirus allies Genoa, Genoa destroy my Navy
2. Epirus allies Venice...
He did it again, the absolute madman
I did almost the same strategy except screw Epirus, alliance with Knights. In my case Turks started to siege Albania, while I occupied kocakeli fort and then ancara, at the same time occupied all the forts on balcans. I got about 50 peace deal score which was enough to get all cores except edirne. Then builded a lot of galleys and in the next war took all of bulgaria and the the rest of anatolia in 2 wars. But you did better completely crushing the ottomans in the first war :)
And I didn`t do this mess with the estates, just gave some privileges to them and took 5 loans from burgers for 1%, very useful in the begining. My army was 11 regiments + 4 the worsts mercs which you also hired, that all was enough.
Thanks for yourprecious guide, I was waiting for it since eu4 relese 1.30 patch. I have some question for you:1. How much troops I have to recruit before declere war?
2. Do you recruit other troops during the war?
3. Vassalize Epirus for some help in the naval warfare, but at May 1446, when we should attack, they are a disloyal vassal.
4. The fleet should be composed by 9 light ships, 5 galley and 6 transport ships ?
5. For sigeing Sugla, where you take the troops ?
Trying other aproch is hard I successfull defeat Ottomans only thanks Venice, because of I garantee Albania. The other attemps, I ally Hungary, Albania, Walachia, the Khnights, and I have as vassal Epirus and Athens. Unluckily during the war Poland warning me and evrythings goes wrong.
Which dlcs are crucial to do that strategy?
What is the name of the music between 12:14 and 13:30 ? Also thank you for posting this guide, I used the methods you used and I achieved success in 3rd try. I took all the cores except Edirne and Kırklareli. I got like 466 golds instead.
So how many Barques and how many galleys should I build in total?
That's sounds interesting! Gonna try to make Byzantiym great again!
Huzzah, a man of the people!
This might be stupid, but I am struggeling insanly as Najd to get the "Jihad" challange. Either ottomans stomp or mamelukes, and I just can't seem to tackle either. Any chance you might do a video on it?
1:17 but don't the galleys get a combat bonus in the Mediterranean?
Is it not a big enough bonus to justify the sailor cost?
And galleys are also cheaper.
I think they don't have enough cannons to bombard the coastal forts in the way he describes
@@Anonie324 Galleys have more cannons than light ships
@@rallis3937 Oh dear, you're right, they have two more. I dunno then, I suppose it depends on if you keep scraping the sailor floor...
it's about sailor efficiency to cannon: you use 50 sailor for 8 cannons in a light, while using 100 sailors for 10 cannons on a galley.
also, loans IS just a number
@@Shadow.24772 loans? Who needs loans when you can sell all your lands and get it back for -10 nobles loyalty? Mwahahahahah!
Will you make a video on how you can now easily revoke privilegea in 1470s in the new patch?
Ugh I can't do this. First time I tried I only got coastal provinces along the Aegean, and later Naples, Genoa, and Venice declared war on me. That ended that playthrough.
Second time, I just can't beat the Ottomans. Their armies seem to be much smarter and targeting mine than occupying provinces like they did the first time around. Half the time I can siege Kocaeli but never Selanik.
break alliances with albania and knights and seek immediately stronger ones.
Try alliance with Hungary.
This is a better tutorial and way simpler th-cam.com/video/625RwJ9CGBE/w-d-xo.html
cant ottomans cross from biga to gallipoli because they control both sides of the straits regardless of a enemy navy occupying the sea?
Can you provide us with information for the background music you are using please. Thanks
Hey bro, when you have the time could you redo your Knights strategy? id like to do "On the Rhodes again" but I can't get a strong start.
THE KING IS BACK
For fellows Byzantium players, there are serious bug where if you take money in a war where you take a lot of territories, any amount of money you ask for would be reset to 1 after you submit the peace proposal. Meaning if you want to take 1000 ducats from ottoman to repay your loans, they would only give you 1 ducat and a fuck you instead. Take war reparation only instead if you don't have enough warscore to get both money and war reparation.
"So I guess my strategy in a nutshell guys is to just attack the Ottoman Empire AND JUST DESTROY THEM" - BudgetMonk 2020
For reals though, that is pretty sick. Well done!
So it is only possible with cossacks? I tried this, but Knights and Albania did not wanted to go to war against Ottomans, and eventually I wanted to try alone, but Ottomans attacked me first with about 27k soldiers on european part of their empire, also attacked my 6k stack in consantinople before I could retreat. I got squashed.
GOD HAS SPOKEN! REJOICE AND LISTEN TO THE MONK ON A BUDGET.
Out of my 10 or so attempts Epirus often allies Albania before December 1444. What to do?
In my first try Naples immediately gained independence and allied the ottomans with AQ. This was after I had conquered candar and epirus as well and got a +1 stab event.
Can you explain how you went from estates' red to yellow alert ? Thanks
Fianly you came back I realy enjoy watching you how you are destroying with Byzantium well done I hope you will reach 100K subs soon
great work monk
Boy oh boy I cant wait to take this baby for a spin!
Oh, hey Chewy!
metrioxd hi friend :)
I also found the first war pretty easy this patch. I picked byzantium just to try them out with no particular strategy and with Serbia as an ally and Epirus as vassal completely crushed the ottomans. No restarts first try. Struggled a lot with economy though because i fuked up the new estate interactions. Just didnt read them properly.
when it is better experience playing the game,starting at a custom date or 1444?
Wait how does he get the 8k army out of Athens through hostile forts
hmm.. Otto had Dulkadir and tunis as Ally + Tunis had Tlemcen as Vassal, my ships fully ship blocked Constantinople but they still can cross? :(
great video bro
Which dlc gives you the promise land option?
Hey BudgetMonk,
We, the Byz fans thank you for another cool Byz video. Let the true Rome rise again!
I haven't played the 1.30 update but in the 1.28.3 version I use a slightly different strategy:
Instead of attacking the Ottomans, I let them attack me, around 1446. Using Albania and Wallachia as allies while rivaling Serbia. So, I siege down the Salonica (or don't have to if I'm lucky and they attack early in the month) and Kocaeli forts while letting them siege down Constantinople. I carpet siege the Balkans and West Asia Minor and then attacking the Ottoman stack with all my forces in Constantinople. The second battle after this is a stackwipe and the war is over around 1448.
The big difference with your way, however, is not in the tactics but in the peace deal: instead of taking my cores back, I demand Edirne (the coastal fort, Gelibolu now), Salonika, Uskup, Kocaeli, Bolu and Ankara, plus war reps and all his money.
This way I get 4 out of 5 of his forts, making future wars much easier. Additionally, I get a border with Serbia (which is usually attacked that time by Venice and maybe Hungary) and I almost immediately attack him as well. An easy war to get Kosovo and all other provinces he is left with, except for Rasca which I leave to him in order to humiliate him. So, by 1450 I already have an Age Objective fulfilled and >50 Power Projection.
By taking the Ottos money and getting them into loans, it makes the Mamluks much more likely to attack them in just two years. And by improving relations with the Mamluks they usually return my cores for free.
With this peace deal I also have a border with Candar and Karaman (which I rival) which are my next targets. Most of the time, by these wars I manage to get Ramazan (from Karaman) and Ayntab (from Dulkadir, ally of Candar), so that by 1455 I already have fulfilled a second Age Objective (Present on two continents). And by vassallising Candar (and giving him the muslim provinces, Bolu, Ankara etc) I open another way of expansion into the Caucasus. So that, in 30-40 years I am already a great power!
What do you think? Would you like to give it a try?
Burghers have a privilege called Private trade fleets that reduces the cost of Light ships.
Also the Kinghts raid me despite my guarantee. 😔
Just try it this morning and it was very effective. Already won the second war against Venice. Maybe the first time a byzantine run was so eeasy to process.
Our favourite byzantophile
Which dlc do I need for that strategy?
I've been able to defeat the Ottomans the few times I've tried playing Byzantium, however every time I do I get destroyed by the Mamluks after they annex the eastern half of Anatolia. Do you have any recommendations for dealing with them?
Grab Tekke in the first war to stop them from getting into Anatolia early. It will also let you eat up Karaman so they can't do it
Rush georgia too to get its money. Georgia has really good provinces. Take theodoro then trebizond then georgia. In the end it will help you to get an army to defeat the mamelouks
I just used my current starting fleet and blockaded the straight, declaring war in the june of 1445, not even letting a year pass. Even tho they have more ships they don't attack for some reason, and if you DoW before a year has gone they won't have tine to deploy their new galleys that they always start
I did everything 100% identical to the video. At the start of the ottoman war, skanderbeg did not attach, and the Ottoman 15K stack attacked and stackwiped my 13K stack in selanik. I don't know what this talk of the AI bee lining for Athens is about.
I was really surprise with 1.30, Ottomans didn't attacked Byzantium at all before 1460 at least in my current game. In 1.29, Constantinople was often taken in the first year even before the Maine incident fired in France.
Plz do a full play thru, back into Rome. Or one new playable nations
Tried it 3 times, first time albania had a revolt so lost manpower and wouldnt join. Second two times one of the Ottoman Stacks moved to Selanik in the first month and stack wiped me when I got there :/
Same lol
The Fisherman’s guide is really good and works 99.9% of the time here th-cam.com/video/625RwJ9CGBE/w-d-xo.html
Any tips for playing The Knights into Jerusalem in the current patch? I'm an above average EU4 player and after at least a dozen attempts I have given up. I don't want to wait for the Mamluks to be weak, I want to beat the Ottomans within a decade.
Do provence instead lmao King Rene OP
@@VMUDream how so?
@@erikdk321 Provence can from Jerusalem , and is In a Unique spot to ally France, Castile and Austria while maybe joining the HRE. its mission tree has some cool stuff like -20% dip annex cost for rest of the game. No CB into africa and snake to the gold mine if money is an issue, then if you just follow the mission tree into a PU on naples. Still two of my fave nations to play good luck bro
The 6k stack that is "very vital" gets stack wiped as soon as they get across the straight
You're back!!!
Epirus allied with Albania and the Knights, is it salvagable?
I guaranteed the Knights but they still raid me...I guess a minor patch changed this?
In my game both stacks decided to sit together on Constantinople, wasn’t sure what to do about that
and another awesome beat as soundtrack, is possible to have the link?
th-cam.com/video/C60KgHy1i5M/w-d-xo.html found it for who need it