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Currents is my favourite band, TPIFS is my favourite about ever, but I can't get into the mix in the last album, and that makes me so sad ahah because I want to enjoy it
It's funny because I wasn't a fan at all of Architects older stuff, then Animals came out and I realised I had to revisit them. Now, they're one of my favourite bands! FTTWTE was released at a really stressful time in my life, so maybe that's why it's stuck with me, but I love that album so fucking much. Different fans for different eras/sounds, I guess?
The Way It Ends will always be a perfect 10/10 album for me, from Currents Its so well rounded, well mixed, and leaves you wanting MORE. Better Days, Kill the Ache, Monsters, Flag to Wave, As I Fall Apart. Emotional, hard hitting. Loved it. The Death We Seek? Leaves me sad. Potential for a generational album, but the mix and production has really.. made it a forgettable album. THAT album leaves me wanting more, but in the worst way possible.. I used to stan Currents, even GLAZE it, but TDWS hasn't lasted through the test of time. Thankfully, Heavener was there to lift me up when i needed it most.
The Way It Ends isn’t my favorite Currents album but I just could not get behind Heavener. Loved the song Shade Astray, but the djenty/proggy style of metalcore just isn’t something I really gravitate towards except the occasional odd band.
Absolutely agree I have nearly the exact same thoughts about currents last 2 albums! Love 'the way it ends' (besides Devil in disguise EP these 2 are my fav releases from them), but didn't like Death we seek except for 1 song, sadly. Also loved their other releases like 'Life/Lost' EP or their first album, which I don't know the name now sry. So their last release was a big letdown for me, it didn't catch me like I was expecting or hoping. Still a currents fan tho and looking forward, maybe their next stuff is more of a hitter
While The Way it Ends has arguably the best production and SOME of their best songs, The Place I Feel Safest is still their best work imo. So many incredible grooves and riffs on that album that i can't help feel a bit underwhelmed by everything they've put out since.
I'm shocked to hear about The Way It Ends. I would have figured at some point that record would have broken through for you. That's one of the best metalcore albums ever in my opinion.
Trivium is like a top 5-10 metalcore band of all time. They have an insane discography, with arguably only having maybe only 2 albums that are below average (Ember to Inferno, their first album and Silence in the Snow, no screaming). The rest, all have their own, unique distinct sound that has kept them super relevant and well liked by old and new heads. Also their last 3 albums, they have been on a tare since adding the new drummer. Rarely is a band making some of their best work 20 years after the fact; so they definitely deserve the win; albeit in a irrelevant fun contest.
I got into currents earlier this year, i had heard them before in for you playlists on spotify prior but when I heard Unfamiliar and So Alone I fell in love, so TDWS is what really got me in, but I can totally see why people dont like it as much as the TPIFS and TWIE, I can even see why people think TPIFS is their peak, all 3 albums are very different from each other and I kinda like that
-I actually heavily preferred Classic Symptoms to Wish to Exist. Mostly it was comparatively more guitar driven and cohesive. Wish to Exist at one point was going to be a double album… -The Death We Seek is a decent album just to headbang to, the title track is still goes hard AF -Considering 1/2 of Spiritbox is former IWABO members (late in the band’s run though) and 1/4 was in AILD since 2007… they’re kinda OG metalcore in a sense.
Just let everyone listen to what they want, it would be a boring world if everybody had the same taste. @Metalbirb Yeah, the production on the last Currents album felt a bit muddy to me as well, so it was not just my dirty ears. :) Would love to see a video about what songs stayed with you over the years.
I respect your opinion on Currents and Architects, absolutely based. Personally, I cannot understand the hype for The Death We Seek. I feel like The Way It Ends is my favorite album from them, but I absolutely hated the mix on their latest album, and I agree with all of the cons you highlighted towards that record. I truly don't understand why people like this album at all
As a die hard currents fan, I agree. The mix and production on TDWS leaves so much to be desired. TWIE had such an amazing mix and production level to it. You could feel the ATMOSPHERE of the album, whereas with TDWS felt less like a story, and more like a typical album. Big miss. Thankfully Heavener released, so we still had amazing albums that year.
Architects last albun is not there best, but is not bad. Currents is my favourite band, and for me this last album got some top songs and enter my top 10 current songs And The way it ends just best album ever.
I love your channel to pieces, I've not found your takes or opinion particularly offensive, now, if you came out and said you hated metalcore ... THAT WOULD BE A TAKE ... ;)
I wasn't around when the OG Metalcore bands were kicking asses, but the modern metalcore is getting boring...every new band sound the same, trying to make the most fucked up breakdown ever. I dont hear any new ideas or even a try to change a bit from the mass. That's just my thought tho.
Agree. I was a little late to metalcore, but came into it with some of the OGs. Now, I still find lots of new bands I love, but so many of them just try to out “bleh” each other and out breakdown each other. But yeah, there’s still a ton of talent out there.
I respect your opinion, but Spiritbox aren't anywhere near Howard Jones KSE for me. But this is very subjective, because honestly they are two completely different styles, so very hard to compare.
Music is subjective man, there's no wrong opinion even if people are going to get mad, that's on them unfortunately. People do have different backgrounds and have gotten into the genre at some point, whether it would be the 90s, 00s, 10s or even just getting into it now, I just think it doesn't matter.
I personally find the biggest obstacle to me liking modern metal more (I've always gravitating to classic bands like Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden more) is the distinguish-ability between songs on any given album. These classic bands and even heavier older bands like Pantera prioritized distinguishable riffs and songs above all else, whereas modern metal is more about vibes backed by increasingly generic djenty or tweedly-tweedly riffs.
I just cant get into classic bands, to me they lack emotion, the many riffs they have look so boring for me, it's like if they were doing them just for the shake of it and not because the song really needs them, dont like most of their production too. I prefer hundred times bands like Northlane or Vildhjarta over these classics
@@chrizszx gotta love the diversity of metal and it's listeners though right. Your exact opinions about classic metal about lack of emotion and riffs for the sake of it, I feel about modern metal lol, especially bands like Vildhjarta, Humanity's Last Breath etc
@@chrizszx of course the core kid hates older, true metal bands that GAVE BIRTH TO THE ACTUAL GENRE. I want to punch you in the face by saying you prefer these cringe core modern CORE bands over the true ones from the past, fucking stupid Gen Z.
Same. Im all for bands evolving. But I cannot take any new Architects. If people love it. Awesome. I envy you. I wish I could. But I can't. And yes. An Architects taking more influence from Thrice, Deftones, etc I'd love. But arena rock/pop isn't it for me.
Birb you didn’t give a shoutout to Bogdan for inspiring this video? Shame, shame! I’m the same w Architects, but the orchestral version of “Impermanence “ is their banger that I will never take off my playlists. Parkway Drive gives me similar vibes-love the older stuff, lukewarm on the last few albums.
My opinions on metalcore haven't really changed over the past number of years. I still think metalcore has gotten boring for the most part and I'm not connecting with newer bands. I think Paledusk has some fun songs, and the new Chelsea Grin lineup has been killing it for the past 5 years, but otherwise it's groups of the past that I like. I also want to hear more of what the bands sound like but modern production is crushing and distorting everything and the recordings are more like electronic music than a live metal band. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Genuinely loved ‘The Classic Symptoms Of A Broken Spirit’ myself. I’m just a sucker for a catchy hook and there’s a lot of them on that album. Respect to anyone who didn’t enjoy it though. Hopefully there was one or two songs people enjoyed
for me this album "architects for those that wish to exist" is a MASTERPIECE yeah its not metalcore but its a GREAT METAL ALBUM Currents is a GOATs BAND, all albums are MASTERPIECEs
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In my opinion Living In Tragedy is a 10/10 banger … 🤌🏼
Currents is my favourite band, TPIFS is my favourite about ever, but I can't get into the mix in the last album, and that makes me so sad ahah because I want to enjoy it
best track by currents
@@str1897I know what you mean.
Great album but the mixing ruins it a bit
The chorus blows 🙅🏼♂️
@@str1897 same here
Living in Tragedy is unforgettable. That breakdown breaks me down.
It's funny because I wasn't a fan at all of Architects older stuff, then Animals came out and I realised I had to revisit them. Now, they're one of my favourite bands! FTTWTE was released at a really stressful time in my life, so maybe that's why it's stuck with me, but I love that album so fucking much. Different fans for different eras/sounds, I guess?
The Way It Ends will always be a perfect 10/10 album for me, from Currents
Its so well rounded, well mixed, and leaves you wanting MORE.
Better Days, Kill the Ache, Monsters, Flag to Wave, As I Fall Apart.
Emotional, hard hitting. Loved it.
The Death We Seek?
Leaves me sad. Potential for a generational album, but the mix and production has really.. made it a forgettable album. THAT album leaves me wanting more, but in the worst way possible..
I used to stan Currents, even GLAZE it, but TDWS hasn't lasted through the test of time.
Thankfully, Heavener was there to lift me up when i needed it most.
The Way It Ends isn’t my favorite Currents album but I just could not get behind Heavener. Loved the song Shade Astray, but the djenty/proggy style of metalcore just isn’t something I really gravitate towards except the occasional odd band.
I feel this EXACTLY
Absolutely agree I have nearly the exact same thoughts about currents last 2 albums! Love 'the way it ends' (besides Devil in disguise EP these 2 are my fav releases from them), but didn't like Death we seek except for 1 song, sadly. Also loved their other releases like 'Life/Lost' EP or their first album, which I don't know the name now sry. So their last release was a big letdown for me, it didn't catch me like I was expecting or hoping. Still a currents fan tho and looking forward, maybe their next stuff is more of a hitter
While The Way it Ends has arguably the best production and SOME of their best songs, The Place I Feel Safest is still their best work imo. So many incredible grooves and riffs on that album that i can't help feel a bit underwhelmed by everything they've put out since.
Surprising to hear about the way it ends, that’s one of the more enjoyable albums of all time for me
Interesting, I completely agreed with everything you said about the architects album, but i fucking loved almost everything on the death we seek.
The death we seek is just bangers all the way through! But hey to each his own
I'm shocked to hear about The Way It Ends. I would have figured at some point that record would have broken through for you. That's one of the best metalcore albums ever in my opinion.
Trivium is like a top 5-10 metalcore band of all time. They have an insane discography, with arguably only having maybe only 2 albums that are below average (Ember to Inferno, their first album and Silence in the Snow, no screaming). The rest, all have their own, unique distinct sound that has kept them super relevant and well liked by old and new heads. Also their last 3 albums, they have been on a tare since adding the new drummer. Rarely is a band making some of their best work 20 years after the fact; so they definitely deserve the win; albeit in a irrelevant fun contest.
Currents is my favourite band oat 😢every album is amazing to me in its own right hurts me that you don’t enjoy it as much as me😂💔
I got into currents earlier this year, i had heard them before in for you playlists on spotify prior but when I heard Unfamiliar and So Alone I fell in love, so TDWS is what really got me in, but I can totally see why people dont like it as much as the TPIFS and TWIE, I can even see why people think TPIFS is their peak, all 3 albums are very different from each other and I kinda like that
-I actually heavily preferred Classic Symptoms to Wish to Exist. Mostly it was comparatively more guitar driven and cohesive. Wish to Exist at one point was going to be a double album…
-The Death We Seek is a decent album just to headbang to, the title track is still goes hard AF
-Considering 1/2 of Spiritbox is former IWABO members (late in the band’s run though) and 1/4 was in AILD since 2007… they’re kinda OG metalcore in a sense.
Loved Currents "The Death We Seek" when it came out. And I'm still jamming to it now.
no currents slander is accepted
Lol... Currents The Way It Ends was AOTY for me in 2020... I listened to that album more times than I can remember
Great idea for a series.
Just let everyone listen to what they want, it would be a boring world if everybody had the same taste.
@Metalbirb Yeah, the production on the last Currents album felt a bit muddy to me as well, so it was not just my dirty ears. :)
Would love to see a video about what songs stayed with you over the years.
I respect your opinion on Currents and Architects, absolutely based. Personally, I cannot understand the hype for The Death We Seek. I feel like The Way It Ends is my favorite album from them, but I absolutely hated the mix on their latest album, and I agree with all of the cons you highlighted towards that record. I truly don't understand why people like this album at all
As a die hard currents fan, I agree. The mix and production on TDWS leaves so much to be desired. TWIE had such an amazing mix and production level to it. You could feel the ATMOSPHERE of the album, whereas with TDWS felt less like a story, and more like a typical album. Big miss.
Thankfully Heavener released, so we still had amazing albums that year.
@minecraftsteve2504 Yeah, Heavener actually turned out to be one of my most favourite albums of all time
Alive or just breathing!!!! Cmon man!
loving this one man
Early and seated.
Thrown is overrated as fuck, especially when people are neglecting HLB and Vildhjarta.
Architects last albun is not there best, but is not bad.
Currents is my favourite band, and for me this last album got some top songs and enter my top 10 current songs
And The way it ends just best album ever.
There is plenty of music. There are always be favourites. We got the power of choice so lets use it !
Ps. SPIRITBOX all day 😅
I love your channel to pieces, I've not found your takes or opinion particularly offensive, now, if you came out and said you hated metalcore ... THAT WOULD BE A TAKE ... ;)
Always love the discussion based videos
hard disagree on currents and they're incredible live but each to their own i guess.....
Killswitch has a new single coming out this month. We'll see how they hold up at this point.
Birbs turned into a murloc from world of warcraft at the end there 😂
I wasn't around when the OG Metalcore bands were kicking asses, but the modern metalcore is getting boring...every new band sound the same, trying to make the most fucked up breakdown ever.
I dont hear any new ideas or even a try to change a bit from the mass. That's just my thought tho.
Agree. I was a little late to metalcore, but came into it with some of the OGs. Now, I still find lots of new bands I love, but so many of them just try to out “bleh” each other and out breakdown each other. But yeah, there’s still a ton of talent out there.
New counterparts, Knocked Loose, Boundaries, and Kublai Khan
@@ryanbollinger1759 Knocked Loose...the band that made an album with the same song over and over again
“Who is that little boy?!” 😂
I respect your opinion, but Spiritbox aren't anywhere near Howard Jones KSE for me. But this is very subjective, because honestly they are two completely different styles, so very hard to compare.
Nobody talks about KE vocalist change anymore? I liked their initial one
Music is subjective man, there's no wrong opinion even if people are going to get mad, that's on them unfortunately. People do have different backgrounds and have gotten into the genre at some point, whether it would be the 90s, 00s, 10s or even just getting into it now, I just think it doesn't matter.
I like the new architects
Entre por currents en la miniatura,banda muy sólida
Wey ese pinche álbum “The way it ends” o en español “ la manera en la que termina” es una puta obra de arte.
A new moral low ground by architects is arguably one of their better songs. The rest of that album is one of the biggest let downs
Same opinion about new Architects material.
I never connected with Currents.
Hollow crown was the best
4:59 what did they do to you :(
I actually hate that sound from architects. Music is so subjective aye
So you weren't wrong about Architects the video title deceipted me
I personally find the biggest obstacle to me liking modern metal more (I've always gravitating to classic bands like Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden more) is the distinguish-ability between songs on any given album. These classic bands and even heavier older bands like Pantera prioritized distinguishable riffs and songs above all else, whereas modern metal is more about vibes backed by increasingly generic djenty or tweedly-tweedly riffs.
I just cant get into classic bands, to me they lack emotion, the many riffs they have look so boring for me, it's like if they were doing them just for the shake of it and not because the song really needs them, dont like most of their production too. I prefer hundred times bands like Northlane or Vildhjarta over these classics
@@chrizszx gotta love the diversity of metal and it's listeners though right. Your exact opinions about classic metal about lack of emotion and riffs for the sake of it, I feel about modern metal lol, especially bands like Vildhjarta, Humanity's Last Breath etc
@Andy666TheBeast yeah, kinda funny we feel the same way for such different bands 😅
@@chrizszx of course the core kid hates older, true metal bands that GAVE BIRTH TO THE ACTUAL GENRE. I want to punch you in the face by saying you prefer these cringe core modern CORE bands over the true ones from the past, fucking stupid Gen Z.
Same. Im all for bands evolving. But I cannot take any new Architects. If people love it. Awesome. I envy you. I wish I could. But I can't. And yes. An Architects taking more influence from Thrice, Deftones, etc I'd love. But arena rock/pop isn't it for me.
Yup it’s sad but I honestly forget architects exist anymore. Too many other good bands out there to be holding onto the past
COVID has lowered your voice it seems. Animals and Butterflies are bangers but a lot of their new tracks are just "blegh" 😂
curse. + seeing red were good
Birb you didn’t give a shoutout to Bogdan for inspiring this video? Shame, shame!
I’m the same w Architects, but the orchestral version of “Impermanence “ is their banger that I will never take off my playlists.
Parkway Drive gives me similar vibes-love the older stuff, lukewarm on the last few albums.
first thought was "great now every metal youtuber is doing this"
My opinions on metalcore haven't really changed over the past number of years. I still think metalcore has gotten boring for the most part and I'm not connecting with newer bands. I think Paledusk has some fun songs, and the new Chelsea Grin lineup has been killing it for the past 5 years, but otherwise it's groups of the past that I like. I also want to hear more of what the bands sound like but modern production is crushing and distorting everything and the recordings are more like electronic music than a live metal band. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Genuinely loved ‘The Classic Symptoms Of A Broken Spirit’ myself. I’m just a sucker for a catchy hook and there’s a lot of them on that album. Respect to anyone who didn’t enjoy it though. Hopefully there was one or two songs people enjoyed
The album with animals on it, in my ears was just a try to sound like being me the horizon and they totally mist. Newer albums are just meeeeeh.
for me this album "architects for those that wish to exist" is a MASTERPIECE
yeah its not metalcore
but its a GREAT METAL ALBUM
Currents is a GOATs BAND, all albums are MASTERPIECEs
two bands I LOVED and stopped liking were Northlane and Thornhill. After Adrian left Northlane I wasn't a fan
Last Thornhill album: hated the production, worked well live!
Pretty easy to see this was inspired from Bogdan. Would be cool if you shouted him out.
You like sleep token. Thats a huge problem because they are absolutely shit