Lady Rochford and her Twisted Mind!

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  • @imonherenow3673
    @imonherenow3673 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Her story is truly fascinating. I wish we knew more about her. This was a great video!

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate you watching, Thank you 😊

    • @gabrieladerre2862
      @gabrieladerre2862 ปีที่แล้ว

      She is quite fascinating! There is a longer documentary about her, right here on TH-cam! For free! The thumbnail shows the portrait of her, that I believe was drawn by one of that time's popular artists! It's very well done! The documentary! And the portrait! 😹

    • @beverleightodd5710
      @beverleightodd5710 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a 90 minute documentary on My5 about her which is fascinating.

    • @alexandramsh4740
      @alexandramsh4740 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@beverleightodd5710Would you kindly post the link for My5. I tried searching for it, to no avail. Thank you xx

  • @LiamDeeley
    @LiamDeeley ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I'll never understand why she helped Kathryn Howard knowing the penalty. Great video.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Liam, it's a tough call 😊

    • @NCKrypotonite33
      @NCKrypotonite33 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      She probably couldn't say no, no more than any of Henry's men could say to him. Courtiers were expected to support the monarch under in any circumstance

    • @memyselfi8461
      @memyselfi8461 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I wonder if she was trying to help her conceive so that henry wouldn't get rid of her like he did her cousin anne?

    • @ladyagnes7781
      @ladyagnes7781 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The question is why Lady Rochford help Catherine. I always wondered that too, but given that Henry was very older than in terrible shape, and his only legitimate son wasn't the healthiest I guess if she saw it said is Catherine Howard had a child but it could be pissed off as Henry and could be the Future King and then she would be not only in good with the queen mother but she almost could blackmail her she'd have a secret on her. If that was the plan it could have worked

    • @abbiewaites5333
      @abbiewaites5333 ปีที่แล้ว

      She felt for Catherine Howard because she knew what it was to have a husband who only loved you (or was at least kind to you) when you were useful to him. I believe George loved another but used janes feelings for him to aid the boleyns, she also was the sister in law of Henry 8th so probably understood the attraction between culpeper and Catherine may be Catherine's only chance to conceive and cement her rule as Queen , allowing jane to rise with her. Not sure whether she was wise or foolish but certainly unlucky. Would lobe to find out about her and George's relationship.

  • @einezcrespo2107
    @einezcrespo2107 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    What I still can't understand is why Jane Rochford knowing what happened to her husband and Anne Boleyn helped facilitate Catherine's and Culpeper's rendevous. Surely she would've learnt her lesson. Alas she didn't. She played the game and lost her life.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Could be any number of reasons she did what she did, makes history so fascinating. Thanks Einez 😊

    • @einezcrespo2107
      @einezcrespo2107 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@HistoryRoadshow Very true Jon. Very true. 🙂

    • @RhosynGwyn
      @RhosynGwyn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She was at the bottom after Ann and was trying to. Regain some favour maybe and saw kitty ss her way back

    • @johnfinnie1181
      @johnfinnie1181 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am beginning to think history isn't kind to Jane & she probably wasn't as Involved in sending AB & GB to their deaths, she sent him food at the tower & he thanked his wife ( wasn't in person) I think at her age & living in a viper pit since 15 she felt a kinship to Catherine H & folly was her downfall. I do think her infamy should be kept getting looked into,, I mean history has her more of a characachour ( bad spelling) than a real person who had feelings & reasons

    • @Wmuthoni
      @Wmuthoni ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She was an extreme narcissist pure and simple. Maybe she did it to get back at Henry viii by using the naive Katherine Howard coz she felt shortchanged not receiving the rewards that were owed to her or she just believed that she was above it all rules, norms etc.

  • @janetpugliesi3203
    @janetpugliesi3203 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Excellent video... isn't it strange in the end she ended up with the two she betrayed...

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Janet always appreciated 😊

  • @CountessKitten
    @CountessKitten ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jon, you sir, you have a talent for this!! It's produced, edited and narrated so well that it looks like something that would be on National Geographic or BBC or any other reputable TV station. Kudos to you! And a more important thanks to you as well. You always choose delightful topics and your story telling is always stellar! ❣️💫

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you WOW I'm actually speechless yet so pleased you enjoy the content and raise me to such a high level. Enjoy the rest of your week 😊

  • @Anita-rq9ev
    @Anita-rq9ev ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love Tudor history and this video is no exception. Very well presented. I still have no clue what to think of her and why she did what she did. Her end was tragic. Thank you Jon 😊

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We'll never know Anita. People will always debate characters like this from history. Thank you 😊

  • @OWOT-re5jf
    @OWOT-re5jf ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the artwork and effects. Great narrator.

  • @MeMe-nw9mq
    @MeMe-nw9mq ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just found your channel and had to subscribe. I absolutely love history & Tudor history is a particular favorite. How sad it is that for the most part any details about women, even very important women and the roles they played in society, are lost to time because during that time period women weren’t considered to be important enough to detail specifics about their lives. Every once in a while we’ll have diaries chronicling the every day life of women come to light, but that’s the exception rather than the rule. Very well put together video with the scant information actually known about Viscountess Jane Rochford. I look forward to seeing more videos from this channel.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very kind of you, thanks so much 😊

    • @susanmccormick6022
      @susanmccormick6022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MeMe:Agreed.I would love to know more about Anne Neville & her sister.

  • @vialogan
    @vialogan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely luscious images that truly brought this story to life!

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      So pleased you enjoy the content, thank you 😊

  • @hermalindasalais3638
    @hermalindasalais3638 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Some other historians have said that Lady Rochford helped Catherine Howard because she was in desperate need financial to stay at court.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She certainly yearned to be in court, maybe she thought doing wat she did would seal the deal. Thanks 😊

  • @cassandraralph5906
    @cassandraralph5906 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Jane Bolyen was very much a victim of the times that she lived in. Henry Tudor became a very selfish and cruel tyrant, partly because of his powers, and partly because of his head injury caused by a serious fall from his horse during a jousting match. Those who worked for him either were treated well, or in equal measure, treated very badly resulting in much suffering and mental illness. I think the people of England sighed a breath of relief when he died.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He had limitless power and always the final word. It was a sign of the times. Thanks as always, Cassandra 😊

    • @MeMe-nw9mq
      @MeMe-nw9mq ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thus the statement “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

    • @paloma4444
      @paloma4444 ปีที่แล้ว

      What an ignorant comment

    • @jordanalijahwon1905
      @jordanalijahwon1905 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I totally see your points and I agree with the notion that Henry’s injury and total power made him a tyrant in his final decade. However, I don’t see Jane Boleyn as only a victim. She certainly overreached herself throughout the course of her tenure as lady in waiting. Also, assisting CH in adultery was a terribly unintelligent move. She literally saw what happened to AB and her own husband from only rumor. She must’ve known she was putting herself in great danger.

  • @trishphillips-johnson2500
    @trishphillips-johnson2500 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a fantastic video! You never fail to please, Jon! Job well done!

  • @mrskenscott9643
    @mrskenscott9643 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love ALL of these vids. So well done. The art work is beautiful. Is it AI ?

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Mrs Kenscott, much appreciated. Yes the images are AI 😊

  • @ElleHistory
    @ElleHistory ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great video, Jon!!! I LOVED IT !!!!

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Elle, hope you had a happy Bank Holiday 😊

  • @savagedarksider2147
    @savagedarksider2147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job with the video Jon. 👍

  • @funnytime13
    @funnytime13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good afternoin Jin! Sittibgherewith a cuppa enjoying a new history lesson!

  • @amandasanchez111
    @amandasanchez111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love all of your video very informative cannot wait for more

  • @tracymcardle7395
    @tracymcardle7395 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful video thank you and well done loved it❤❤

  • @shesaknitter
    @shesaknitter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting and thank you very much. Catherine Howard and Anne Boleyn were first cousins though, and not really distantly related. Catherine's father and Anne's mother were siblings.

  • @maureenbergin3453
    @maureenbergin3453 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And then there is the theory that Cromwell was letting her stay on as a lady in waiting so she could act as a spy for Cromwell. She might have felt that she needed to keep in Catherine’s good graces or else be destined for a life of poverty.

  • @mariamanasewitsch2977
    @mariamanasewitsch2977 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the new “layout” of your vlogs.

  • @Isabella2335.
    @Isabella2335. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks 😊

  • @catherinepositano8544
    @catherinepositano8544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So it's fair to say they ALL got the chop Jon!🤭🇦🇺......What a bloody mess!...I've always wondered how people turned up to actually WATCH a beheading?...Not my cup of tea....Thankyou for yet another fabulous video Jon...so interesting.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess it was like watching any major event today, they needed some excitement in their lives and executions were probably the one thing that brought many people together. Who knows! Thanks Catherine 😊

  • @williamandrews4251
    @williamandrews4251 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why Jane became involved in Queen Catherine's intrigues with Culpepper remain a mystery that only Lady Rochford herself knows.Some times one can get caught up in things that appear dangerous and stupid,because of human weakness and the desire for vicarious experience.Who but Jane knows?

  • @prof.cecilycogsworth3204
    @prof.cecilycogsworth3204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @simon112
    @simon112 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just my opinion I don't believe she Betrayed her husband or queen Ann History has been less than kind to her, she met her End with grace and dignity. Thank you once again Jon, for another brilliantly told Tudor life. 👍

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      History is all about opinions Simon. Thank you as always 😊

    • @wildsquirrelswildsquirrel7286
      @wildsquirrelswildsquirrel7286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jane didn't get that ending as you thought. The accounts by witnesses said that she ran around the execution ground screaming like a demented 1 while the executioner had to chase after her with his axe & having to hit her with it. She haunts the execution grounds still replaying her execution.

    • @susanmccormick6022
      @susanmccormick6022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@wildsquirrelswildsquirrel7286 Poor,poor lass.Though I understood that was Clarence's daughter,an old lady.Her brother having being murdered as a youth by The Usurper King H7.

    • @wildsquirrelswildsquirrel7286
      @wildsquirrelswildsquirrel7286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@susanmccormick6022 but it was no excuse for Jane to do the clandestine meetings between Culpepper & Katherine Howard.

    • @joanandersen4351
      @joanandersen4351 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wildsquirrelswildsquirrel7286 reminds me of Margaret Pole. She was screaming at her execution saying that she was not a traitor and the execution was only for traitors. Her execution was messed up took a few times before it her head was finally detached from her body

  • @OnomatopoeiaOlly
    @OnomatopoeiaOlly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Blossoming into a 15 year old woman" 😂😂 love your vids, didn't expect such a chuckle.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know I like to throw the odd curve ball! Thanks Barry 😊

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In the context of the time she lived in she was a "WOMAN" not a child.
      Many fifteen-year olds of the era were already married and mothers.

  • @harrietyounger6118
    @harrietyounger6118 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Catherine Howard was a first cousin of Ann Boleyn. Not a distant relation.

  • @rosielee5650
    @rosielee5650 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was very good Jon xx

  • @anamariecameron7874
    @anamariecameron7874 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sadly if the king told you he wanted you there was nothing you could do but do what you are told

  • @ashlynbulsara4238
    @ashlynbulsara4238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Tudors history is my favorite history.

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:19
    Thrilling depiction of Anne of Cleves...Shes a pretty woman here, wonder what Henry saw?

    • @susanmccormick6022
      @susanmccormick6022 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Goy howdy Maybe he was looking in the mirror!

    • @RhosynGwyn
      @RhosynGwyn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She wouldn't play Henry's games

  • @nancyM1313
    @nancyM1313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tfsharing her story🌸

  • @Elly3981
    @Elly3981 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I honestly have to wonder what Lady Rochford was thinking helping Katherine Howard cheat on King Henry. After what happened to her brother and sister-in-law, didn't she know how dangerous that was?

    • @chiasanzes9770
      @chiasanzes9770 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Her Brother and sister on law? WHAT Brother? George was her huspand!

  • @Angela-en6oh
    @Angela-en6oh ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another interesting and informative video - thank you.
    I feel that Jane Rockford was a woman of her time, in that it was always men who held power and she did whatever was needed to ensure her continued status within court and general society, even though it looks appalling to us so many years later. Sadly, her time “ran out” and ended with her execution. But I really believe she tried to ensure that all the scandals which had previously surrounded her, prior to Catherine Howard, did not lead people to believe she was culpable or involved. But a very interesting woman, of whom we really should know more.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a very good take on Jane, I think you're probably correct on most of what you say. Thanks Angela 😊

  • @maryannbernal
    @maryannbernal ปีที่แล้ว

    Great choice; keep them coming.

  • @anamariecameron7874
    @anamariecameron7874 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    sadly women of the court could be killed by the king at any time

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was no security over one man, one rule. Thanks Anamarie 😊

    • @MissMarie1377
      @MissMarie1377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So could men.

  • @AlisonProctor-fq4kt
    @AlisonProctor-fq4kt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From what film came the photographs?

    • @alainaswain4348
      @alainaswain4348 ปีที่แล้ว

      The images were from the Showtime series The Tudors.

    • @AlisonProctor-fq4kt
      @AlisonProctor-fq4kt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alainaswain4348 No, actually, they were not. Joanne King played Jane Boleyn.

  • @kandieannmerrill2023
    @kandieannmerrill2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She is my 15th great aunt!!!

    • @jennifer.palmer
      @jennifer.palmer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m related to her too! My 15th something 🤣

    • @janicem9225
      @janicem9225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennifer.palmer
      Hahahaha! I am too, somehow. 😆

  • @ShallowApple22
    @ShallowApple22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    couldn't click quick enough ❤

  • @jazminmuro9692
    @jazminmuro9692 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have no idea what Jane Rochford is like, but I do know that her statement over Anne Boleyn and George Boleyn had returned to haunt her. Jane had no choice over Katherine Howard's affair and orders, but Katherine Howard was the queen, and you can't just disobey a queen.
    But on one hand, maybe she became petty and jealous again that Katherine Howard got what Anne Boleyn had gotten.
    So, I would say that Jane had overplayed her part too much and that is why she got caught in the game and lost.

  • @LorH1
    @LorH1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi all. I have watched all the boleyn episodes and I wondered, It appears like the Boleyn family were becoming quite a powerful family. Could it be possible that king Henry 8th perhaps grew "tired" of the boleyn family and their strive for power and court dealings.and decided to 'remove" their strength and blood line through these "be-headings".as the boleyns had grown too powerful and that would be see as a threat to his kingship and himself. perhaps a warning to other nobel family's striving for power too ?. 🤔

  • @pbohearn
    @pbohearn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ambitious families often meet violent ends

  • @harrietyounger6118
    @harrietyounger6118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the surname Parker any relation to the Parker bowles?

    • @dw1232
      @dw1232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm googling it as I'm trying to find out for myself.

    • @harrietyounger6118
      @harrietyounger6118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dw1232 thanks let me know please.

  • @theresalaux5655
    @theresalaux5655 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never understand what was going through Jane's mind do you.😢 unless she thought she was going to get something? I guess we will never know. Thanks Jon 😮😮

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally, I think she feared everything. She was pulled into a world beyond her control. It's sometimes easier to keep saying yes, but at what cost! Thanks Theresa 😊

    • @theresalaux5655
      @theresalaux5655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @HistoryRoadshow it is sad though 😢

  • @Denise-ki9ii
    @Denise-ki9ii หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to think Jane helped Catherine out of revenge - she knew the charges against Anne and George were fabricated so decided to hurt the king by aiding Catherine and Culpepper. Makes more sense to me than her just being a meddler. People will risk much when driven by hatred and there is no evidence Jane was estranged from her husband. For all we know, the letter Jane sent George promising to help him may have been genuine. George seemed to believe it was as he thanked her.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The idea that Jane was motivated by revenge rather than simple meddling is intriguing. It’s true-people driven by anger or grief can be capable of extraordinary risks, and Jane’s motivations remain one of history’s mysteries.

  • @Siyanibingelela
    @Siyanibingelela ปีที่แล้ว

    I think she facilitated the Culpeper affair to get a baby on Kitty. If Henry was in the physical condition that he was allegedly in during his time married to Kitty, he probably couldn’t get her pregnant. But if Katherine conceived and it was a boy, she would be firmly cemented as wife to Henry. A baby boy would be the only thing that kept Katharine safe

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHO IS THE ARTIST OMG!?!?!?!

  • @lelita65
    @lelita65 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your contemporary source related to "George's sexual inclinations" and the 'discontent marriage"?
    As far as I know, there is no evidence.

  • @wednesdayschild3627
    @wednesdayschild3627 ปีที่แล้ว

    Charles Brandon and the Suke of Norfolk were the ultimate survivors. Imo Charles Brandon was a cad.

  • @mareecarlick3467
    @mareecarlick3467 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was a scary time to live..
    Henry VIii could give & take away at the drop of a hat...life was never stable!

  • @jf-p8370
    @jf-p8370 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paternal (Parker) 1st cousin 14x removed

  • @joanandersen4351
    @joanandersen4351 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty interesting woman I feel bad for her though in my opinion I believe she didn't betray George and Anne, nobody can say no to Henry's will what he wants he gets whatever means possible. One example is mentioned in this video when he manipulated the legal system to have Jane executed despite being declared insane. Truly crazy times anyway Jon nice presentation.

  • @shannondixon340
    @shannondixon340 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know why the opening had to be so wordy

  • @ImprovementisGrowth
    @ImprovementisGrowth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Women had no say at all

  • @deecortez762
    @deecortez762 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the man praying near the end of this video have 12 fingers? 6 on each hand.

  • @susangavaghan
    @susangavaghan ปีที่แล้ว

    Why on earth she helped Catherine and thought she would get away with it doesn't make any sense. Then again why on earth did she testify against her own husband? She certainly had a very strange mentality. Perhaps she was mentally unbalanced.

  • @ChristopherMarshburn
    @ChristopherMarshburn ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody captured her essence better than Hilary Mantel.

  • @MareeMarshall
    @MareeMarshall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hell has know fury like a women's score,eaten up with jealous hatred

    • @SkyeSage17
      @SkyeSage17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like a man in the throws of passion... Right???

  • @LindaLinda80Linda
    @LindaLinda80Linda 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Synopsis not analysis !

  • @robinhood6954
    @robinhood6954 ปีที่แล้ว

    "noble bloodlines".. 🤣

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28 ❤Is this a real place you can visit or a festival or movie set? How much of this is cgi? This looks W0W!👀😳
    Edit: maybe I got carried away but some of these graphics have that effect ...I guess thats the goal of the artist though right? Visually slipping the observer back in time and highlighting the trip with a intriguing tale...This is some great works.👋🏻 🎩

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The majority of the images are AI, the ones titled are original images with detail. Thank you so much for watching. 😊

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly ปีที่แล้ว

    🇨🇿 Is there enough recorded info to do a masterpiece on Blind King John of Bohemia, whos Ostrich feathers Edward of Woodstock adopted after seeing Johns bravery on the battlefield

  • @szade3433
    @szade3433 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks!

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, that's very generous 😊

  • @theresalaux5655
    @theresalaux5655 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!