CYBERPUNK RED - AT A GLANCE & Building a new Character!

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  • ► VIDEO TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 - 01:35 ► Introduction
    01:35 - 05:10 ► Quick Cyberpunk Overview
    05:11 - 08:59 ► Where to get the Cyberpunk books
    09:00 - 12:07 ► Cyberpunk RED book at a glance
    12:08 ► Building a MEDIA character in Cyberpunk RED
    ✷ Hear my thoughts on the brand new Cyberpunk RED Core Rulebook from R. Talsorian Games! This rulebook released on November 19, 2020.
    ► Cyberpunk RED is the next edition of the Cyberpunk TTRPG (pen & paper game) from designer Mike Pondsmith & all of R. Talsorian Games. This new edition is a 'sequel' to Cybperunk 2020 and a 'prequel' to Cyberpunk 2077 (from CD Projekt Red). So basically, this game takes place in between the two in the year 2045, or the TIME OF RED.
    📹 At the end of this video, I create a new charater of the MEDIA role.
    。☆✼★━━━━━━━━━━━━★✼☆。
    Check out more of R. Talsorian Games: rtalsoriangames.com/
    Buy CYBERPUNK RED: www.drivethrurpg.com/product/...
    Buy CYBERPUNK 2020: www.drivethrurpg.com/product/...
    Buy WORLD OF CYBERPUNK 2077: amzn.to/3q9pRqz
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ความคิดเห็น • 102

  • @jackcassidy9963
    @jackcassidy9963 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is late but honestly this is probably the best breakdown of getting into Red that I've seen. Most don't really give good examples or go too indepth with the physical media or character creation and opt more for the roleplaying aspect and prior knowledge of ttrpgs. It's nice to see someone really show the game for newcomers and those getting into Cyberpunk

  • @Deekman
    @Deekman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this, it's the only guide I could find where someone actually goes down the entire character sheet and shows how to fill one out. Very much appreciated.

  • @hectorcornejo1468
    @hectorcornejo1468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember when my bro introduced me to the first Cyberpunk, I had done a lot of different types of RPGS at the time but the idea of playing a game set in a blade runner universe or the Neuromancer book by Gibson was not really something I was saw coming around the corner. It grabbed you by your nose hairs and really forced you to pay attention lol.
    I honestly think if you really want to get the right cyberpunk feel for a game, read the Gibson Sprawl Trilogy. The grandfather of Cyberpunk should not be forgotten.

  • @JTheTeach
    @JTheTeach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Best cyberpunk movies imho:
    1. Blade Runner 1 and 2
    2. Johnny Mnemonic (this is really the bar)
    3. Alita
    4. Total Recall
    5. Robo Cop
    6. Free Jack

    • @colwebbsfmc
      @colwebbsfmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The television series Max Headroom and the British telefilm if the same name is freaking great Cyberpunk fodder, particularly for Media and Netrunnner characters. The Bubblegum Crisis and Bubblegum Crash anime series are both excellent as well.

    • @neenoo8693
      @neenoo8693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They ripped off alita, better read the original

    • @Kevlar-78
      @Kevlar-78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dare I say Virtuosity ? Rogue AI ?

    • @InnoVintage
      @InnoVintage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Akira? Ghost in the shell? The Matrix?

    • @srottfaen
      @srottfaen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lets add some:
      Strange Days
      Dredd
      Ghost in the Shell (Stand Alone Complex show is also very good)
      Akira
      Robocop 1 and 2
      Repo Men
      The Thirteenth Floor
      Runaway

  • @totalpartykill999
    @totalpartykill999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    25 years ago when i started playing CP2020 i would have never imagined any sort of revival like this

    • @Kevlar-78
      @Kevlar-78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was a Shadowrun guy, never played CP2020. It's funny how these games have progressed. Especially DnD 5E. When I was younger, I'd be called a nerd for playing. Nowadays, geek is mainstream ! Love it !
      The Red Core Rulebook is a work of art compared to what Catalyst has done with my Shadowrun. Shadowrun is still my go-to for lore, and their freelance writers are amazing. Catalyst just can't make a viable product. Hoping someone picks up the Shadowrun IP.
      I love both games.

    • @Benjumanjo
      @Benjumanjo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Creedence Clearwater didn’t think they’d get a Revival either.

    • @twin-reflection975
      @twin-reflection975 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't been playing it as long as you but I definitely played cyberpunk 2020 before there was any talk of CD project red doing a game.
      Ever since I was a little kid and I first watched blade runner and first heard that tears In The rain speech. I was hooked by the very concept of the cyberpunk genre. And forever became a philosophy nut who grew into a realist that much like the cyberpunk genre laughs in the face of the very idea of transhumanism that we can transcend our human nature. Lol.
      I too am really happy that they did a revival. And I too am really happy at all the popularity cyberpunk is getting. Given the state of the world right now and the influence that a lot of companies do think they have a right to. The genre is more relevant than it has ever been before and I'm all for it.

  • @MissMagitek
    @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hey all! So I was still pretty new to character creation when making this video, and I noticed a few mistakes:
    - Character Role Ability starts at RANK 4 for new characters (not 1)
    - DONT FORGET to add your humanity loss to your current humanity after adding in all of your Cyberware!! I forgot to do it here :)
    (I've built quite a few more characters since making this video...hehe)
    Also - I've finally been able to create a few characters with the COMPLETE PACKAGE method. It's actually not too difficult to go with the stat pool given, then spend money on gear/cyberware based on the amount of eb the character creation gives you. I would still recommend you build with someone who might already have some experience with it as there are some things that can be a bit confusing!

    • @bradleymathias5555
      @bradleymathias5555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to be so offtopic but does anybody know of a way to get back into an Instagram account??
      I was dumb forgot the account password. I appreciate any help you can give me!

    • @kervala
      @kervala 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I also created my first character with the complete package, it gives more flexibility :)

  • @ItsIntelligentDesign
    @ItsIntelligentDesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just something to point out, since I was initially confused about the Family Background/Childhood Environment thing too. Family Background usually refers to your character's parents, or their family before your character was born. Childhood environment deals with how they spent their early years.
    So in the case of rolling Combat Zoners and "In a Nomad pack with roots in transport" you might flesh that out by saying that your character's parents grew up in the Combat Zone, fell in love and got married there. But when you character's mother accidentally (but happily) got pregnant their parents realized that it would be too dangerous to stay. Their father had worked as a low level fence in the Zone, moving contraband in and out, so he had some contacts with a few Nomads, and one night under cover of darkness he smuggled himself and your character's mother out of the Zone. Your character was born a few months later, and they've been traveling with the Nomads ever since.

    • @kervala
      @kervala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's also what I understood :) It's very interesting to develop the background from what we chose/rolled :)

  • @frankb3347
    @frankb3347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rolling Lifepaths is fun. In a 2020 campaign my Rocker rolled 8 life events and against all probability got Happy Love Affair 4 times. So we decided it was the same person through the years and I had a long term committed partner. That opened up all kinds of story possibilities latter on.

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is so cool - I love the different story ideas that can be thought up when rolling the Lifepath. Great idea

  • @Sephiroth7921
    @Sephiroth7921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t know if anyone in the comments has already made this suggestion, but, Nueromancer is a novel by author William Gibson that kind of helped generate IPs like cyberpunk and Shadowrun. I highly recommend giving it a read.

  • @IanCote
    @IanCote 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    FYI, If you're looking for the PDFs of the 2020 books Humble Bundle has a package. So, you know, legal and charities. It includes the jumpstart for Red as well.

    • @CountLuciferLeviatha
      @CountLuciferLeviatha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      bought this and i'm like holy hell!! definitely gonna run a one off with my buddies CP RED or CP2020

    • @Angelfyre.
      @Angelfyre. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheTrove.is has PDFs of the 2020 books which would be expensive to buy them all.

    • @firedneavada
      @firedneavada 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man I actually got this bundle and downloaded it but didn't download the red jumpstart kit and re bought it

  • @AoretSC2
    @AoretSC2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome to get such an in-depth look at a source book. I may have to pick this one up! :D

  • @zamba136
    @zamba136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the lore of Cyberpunk, butit is dated to a 1980s idea of the future and the system itself always gave me hang-ups.
    I have a goal to expand on the universe and to bring small improvements to character creation freedom, while keeping the fantasy alive.
    Stuff like Cellphones, but also bring in some of the more amazing discoveries in robotics that happened in the last couple of years.

  • @johncloud3823
    @johncloud3823 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Koss Magitek! The first time I saw anything you made was VTM with Roll 4 It- randomly got into cyberpunk Red and was surprised to see this on my feed and recognized your name! Thanks for getting into this, I’ll be watching the one shots in prep for some one -shots or campaigns myself!

  • @Joaquinperez6
    @Joaquinperez6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got my book. Can't wait to play cyberpunk red with my friends once we are done with our current D&D campaign

  • @stevelucido266
    @stevelucido266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cyberpunk got the Lifepath from the original Traveller RPG, if you like that mechanic/feature, check that one out too especially if you like Sci-Fi/Space Opera.

    • @Kevlar-78
      @Kevlar-78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man Traveller. The BEST character generation ever. Its own mini-game

  • @nabby8462
    @nabby8462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for this video! It was very helpful! I just recently bought the pdf (sadly the print version is still soldout). While I love the character creation, I found it to be a bit overwhelming especially when it came to figuring out the stats and skills. Your video really simplified it and made it easier to understand! I hope you do more Cyberpunk Red content in the future :)

  • @srottfaen
    @srottfaen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You really should go for the complete package. That way you get a run over of all the systems and how they work. You can make a character using that in a couple of hours. Also all the other methods take away your agency and force your character into a template format. Who wants that?

  • @Grethmic
    @Grethmic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also discovered this video late, but I stumbled upon you from your roll20 cyberpunk walkthrough, and then clicked on your channel. I too am a avid Cyberpunk 2077 fan and I have been reading the RED ruleset. Love everything about it and the Net Architecture breakdown is pretty cool (even bought the netrunning deck). It is hard to find people interested in the ruleset in my area, but I am still working on drumming up interest. Fun fact the GOG version of 2077 I bought came with a free PDF of the 2020 ruleset embedded in the game files.

  • @mattkomlofske8912
    @mattkomlofske8912 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just binged Cyberpunk Edgerunners, and this video convinced me to get the core book. Keep making these videos, because you're really good at it.

  • @ELITESrBAMOFOS945
    @ELITESrBAMOFOS945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are amazing! Great video❤️

  • @willtijerina5149
    @willtijerina5149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent overview. Informative and entertaining. Thank you.

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!!

  • @kingwavy3002
    @kingwavy3002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Keep making videos! You’re doing a great job. I like your personality and knowledgeable and passionate you are about what interests you. 🦾

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words!!

  • @glayher
    @glayher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Opening the book it looked confusing. You made it seem easy to create my PC. Here we go into Night City

  • @adrian7marc
    @adrian7marc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you very much for the review, so glad you enjoy it:)

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! I LOVE your artwork so much!!

  • @-Markus-
    @-Markus- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got my corebook today! What a beauty it is!

  • @oscarromero9719
    @oscarromero9719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! Great video, the only downsight is that now I want to buy everything haha

  • @kparish05
    @kparish05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched your live episode of Waterdeep Heist and though that was first game I watched you in..... you have obviously been a long time ttrpger !🥰

  • @Kevlar-78
    @Kevlar-78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good overview ! Wait wait, a TH-camr/ content creator wants to play a Media ? 😆
    Just found your channel as a suggestion from another one I follow. Keep up the great content ! Cheers ! 🍻

  • @DRouwnt
    @DRouwnt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to play some cyberpunk

  • @LogicCore
    @LogicCore ปีที่แล้ว

    Complete Package Char-gen: First character = 2 days. Second Character = 30 minutes.

  • @Kiama1234
    @Kiama1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also I would like to point out, according to page 142, a Starting character start with rank 4 in there Role Ability, other then that, awesome video

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I think I made a few mistakes in this character creation and that was one of them! Should be rank 4! Thanks! 😄

  • @TheDudiest3Dude
    @TheDudiest3Dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff, going to play my first game soon, can't wait

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck!!!

    • @TheDudiest3Dude
      @TheDudiest3Dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MissMagitek thanks, I'll need it. I'm going to DM, and I've not done it for years, but I have a lot of ideas and a fair bit of my own personal experience to throw at it so fingers crossed it will amount to some sort of barely legible experience for my players.

  • @davidirving5667
    @davidirving5667 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you recommend any good guides for building each individual class?

  • @arttuluttinen
    @arttuluttinen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought 2020 was overly chunky for most gamers, which is why it died out in the 90s. It sounds like Red has cut it back enough to make it approachable--much of the design reminds me of Chaosium's Call of Cthulhu (specifically the 5th editions & beyond). I'll be curious to see reviews from players, as R. Talsorian's Witcher RPG was generally panned and it was heavily based on Cyberpunk's design elements (of course, they have lessons learned from that for Red).

  • @douglascolquhoun8502
    @douglascolquhoun8502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that you actually got to play that character. As you rolled her, I realized that she was a "former"(?) member of the Blood Razors trying to make good.
    At least as a long time CP referee/GM, that's what I would have suggested.

  • @deProfundisAdAstra
    @deProfundisAdAstra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the promise Cyberpunk makes with its art and descriptions, but when the majority of the game’s mechanics concerns combat, I don’t really feel like I can live in that world as much as I’d like. I think I really want something like The Veil or The Sprawl, but less mission-focused and more focused on relationship building and intrigue 🤔
    And of course, cold hard chrome 🤖

  • @cyberDan404
    @cyberDan404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously nice advice... support your local tabletop RPG stores... we in Brazil didn't, and today they vanished after some economical crisis (damn Corpos)

  • @MGSVxBreakpoint
    @MGSVxBreakpoint 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I built a pretty memorial Media character called Joshua, handle 'Black Lion'. He was previously a US soldier but came home and joined a govt Corp called META Comms which is essentially a propaganda house that controls info and spies on Americans, fabricating scandals and blackmailing folks using deepfake pron-ography ;). Josh makes war movies to help distract people from politics and has everyone in America convinced that he‘s the hottest killer since Rambo and all his deeds are real (hence, great street rep). He began his story when another Corpo at Comms, named Jia Ling, kicked him out of the Director spot and takes over Comms. Josh, along with my girlfriend who chose to be a Netrunner named Xi, fought his way out of the streets and took down META Comms which he realized had become completely corrupt, obsolete and tyrannical.
    A little convoluted but it was a great campaign.

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds like an amazing character!

    • @MGSVxBreakpoint
      @MGSVxBreakpoint 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MissMagitek Why thank you. I did decide to turn it into a novel which publishers are now reveiwing XD. Wish me luck lol

  • @michaelharkonnen8126
    @michaelharkonnen8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CP2020 was the first P&P game I ever played back in.. ummm -99? Love at first sight/read. Can't wait to see what the new version looks like.. hope they don't change the system too much maybe a little streamlined would be good 🙂
    P.S Love your hair girl, you work it! ❤️

    • @maciejkukla9615
      @maciejkukla9615 ปีที่แล้ว

      Combat has been changed. You can't kill anybody with a pistol, you can't kill typical player with an assault rifle (wearing a helmet). To hit somebody with full auto in close quarters is so difficult, it pointless to look for cover.
      It is a game of storytelling now. Just like many new age games now.

  • @daddystabz
    @daddystabz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Invite me to your games! I'm reading through RED right now and have has the Jumpstart Kit for a long time.

  • @mike0rr
    @mike0rr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all, thank you for this video.
    But my main comment here is, I can't find like ANY info on CP Red on the interwebs. I found a PDF and that's it.
    How do I (We, anyone else) find more info on this?

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on what else you're looking for! The PDF is the core rulebook, which really has everything you could need for Cyberpunk RED thusfar.
      There are also some great resources on reddit - I've found the r/cyberpunkred subreddit very helpful. I would also follow R. Talsorian Games' website/twitter - they also post a lot of helpful stuff!

    • @mike0rr
      @mike0rr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MissMagitek I want the hard cover though : (
      Like ya said, there is something special about it. I guess I'll just keep an eye out.
      Thanks for the info though!

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mike0rr Ahhh yeah... the book has been sold out for quite a while now. But hoping it will be back in stock soon. Keep an eye on R. Talsorian's social media - they sometimes post updates on when they're in stock.

  • @takedasamurai238
    @takedasamurai238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im willing to play cyberpunk red anytime if you need players

  • @pigeonfarmboy
    @pigeonfarmboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've just started buying up RED and 2020 books after enjoying 2077! This was good filler to make sure I'm doing the character creation in the right path!

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!! I realize there were a few things I messed up on here in my initial character creation, but I think this covers the majority of it. Glad you found it helpful!

  • @pikkyuukyuun4741
    @pikkyuukyuun4741 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been curious about ttrpg for a bit since Ive been exposed to the 2077 video game but the books dont seem to be available locally in my country. Importing the thing jacks up the price close to 100usd. Pretty unfortunate

    • @Kevlar-78
      @Kevlar-78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You only need the digital copy. If you haven't played any TTRPGs before, this is a good one to get your feet wet. Basically, read the PDF, make a character and then find an online friend. Play one Gamemaster / One player. Experiment and have some fun. Don't let the rules get in the way of fun. Just enjoy learning together. This works for ANY TTRPG.

  • @justinjanicki6561
    @justinjanicki6561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The core game is out?! The r talsorian site says it’s still in development and many sites don’t even have it listed
    ?

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, it launched on Nov. 19! You can get the PDF on Drive Thru RPG. A lot of stores are sold out of the physical copy.

    • @JTheTeach
      @JTheTeach 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      its out for sure; bought the pdf yesterday on drivethroughrpg

  • @starcrafter13terran
    @starcrafter13terran 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm annoyed that the cyberpunk red book didn't go into as much detail on AI as the 2020 book did.

  • @abstractbybrian
    @abstractbybrian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The physical book is sold out!

  • @shaneinnes1748
    @shaneinnes1748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone do a character sketch of this.

  • @donovangesting1
    @donovangesting1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sold out...

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hoping the physical copies will be back in stock soon... 😞

  • @stanleyb9553
    @stanleyb9553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Complete package would not take days to complete. Maybe 45 minutes tops

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just did it with a group recently and it took us a few hours to complete. 😅 Think it depends on how well-versed you are in Cyberpunk character creation. Took me some time to decide what to spend on stat points buy / gear buy / Cyberware. Maybe not days, but certainly dumping a lot of time into it.

    • @Kevlar-78
      @Kevlar-78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ! Knowing my players , they absolutely can take DAYS to make a character. But I get your point.

  • @DividedStates
    @DividedStates 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:30 YYou can. Just click it.

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried, didn't work with the PDF viewer I was using. Will have to try another.

  • @MikeBenko
    @MikeBenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I checked my local table shop, and they did not have this book. You deceived me!

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :( RIP, they've been sold out on R. Talsorian's website also.

    • @MikeBenko
      @MikeBenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MissMagitek awwww you missed the pun. 😔

  • @sethseth9059
    @sethseth9059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You look like Forty. You could cos play as her.

  • @przemaser2
    @przemaser2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when You dress like Judy ?;)

  • @zooropa04
    @zooropa04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    R. Talsorian Games is indeed awesome. And on Twitter they've expressed support for trans rights and sex workers, so I say go them.

    • @MissMagitek
      @MissMagitek  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're an awesome company!

    • @zooropa04
      @zooropa04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MissMagitek And to think, I was initially hesitant because some "red pillers" picked up on and ran with one minor detail from the 2020 sourcebook....

  • @MikeBrendan2112
    @MikeBrendan2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jussi138 needs to switch to decaf and try using manners. TTRPG fans have their favorite game. Only cranky hatemongers call players of one game "stupid."

  • @jasonmountain4643
    @jasonmountain4643 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The book is super confusing. So much fluff around everything. Makes it hard to digest.

  • @404nonexistent
    @404nonexistent ปีที่แล้ว

    Good fuckin lord woman - the title says building a character, even use a pic of a character sheet in the thumbnail. Takes ten god damn minutes to even open the book lol. Not knockin ya for it, clarification. Just, stating the the obvious and havin a giggle. Appreciate the vid chapter timestamps.

  • @jansvoboda4293
    @jansvoboda4293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see how rolls can make you quite a schizophrenic. Unwavering ethics of telling only truth, yet writing propaganda etc. ;)

  • @itzybitzyspyder
    @itzybitzyspyder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugh.