Here’s What I Love & Hate About Our Genesis GV60 Performance! Plus Suggestions For Improvements

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  • @DigantGoyal
    @DigantGoyal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Valid points raised for 70k car. Thanks

  • @roccoflorimonte1857
    @roccoflorimonte1857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My experience with the digital key on the iPhone was exactly the opposite of yours- it was a breeze to set up, but it works so well that I had to turn off "unlock on approach". Every time I walked across the room above the garage with my phone in my pocket I could hear the car unlocking and re-locking.

  • @sennik6223
    @sennik6223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just like you - I thought it was really weird how empty the home screen and HDA screen on the cluster are. I was surprised to see the 'full' versions of those screens. With HDA2, the cluster is filled the surrounding cars (like your Ioniq5). On the home screen there's a really faint outline of the map, I heard (but haven't seen) that there's an AR option in Korea, and I wonder if that screen is a lot busier with the AR information?
    Really agree with all of your points - love the car, but there are a ton of things that could be a bit more refined for a premium car. (I still cringe every time the hatch closes). It definitely should be an option to set whether your car stays in 1 pedal driving when you turn it off. That said, I'm probably the only person who prefers it to go back to level 3 (so I can ease the car out of the garage - it's so touchy when 1 pedal driving is on - especially if I forgot to turn off auto hold) - but choice is key.
    One other thing I've had to get used to is steering wheel placement. Looking at your video, it looks like it fits you perfectly :). Maybe it's because I'm short - but the cluster is placed slightly higher so I haven't yet been able to find a position where the wheel isn't ridiculously high, but where I can still see the cluster through the top of the wheel. If I take the recommended posture position - the wheel pretty much completely obstructs the entire view.
    I still love the car - and I'm still happy to be an early adopter :D. I just hope that some of our feedback makes it back to Genesis for future consideration.

  • @skk6648
    @skk6648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am getting 272 miles (438kms) per charge right now on my gv60 performance

  • @PharmeRx78
    @PharmeRx78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My wife's gv60(rwd in korea) has hda2 and 300miles range(almost same as ioniq5 rwd LR)... but my wife's gv60 has not a boost button and face ID

  • @MrGarden8
    @MrGarden8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explaining "auto hold" I couldn't find it anywhere.

  • @Jeddin
    @Jeddin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For proximity unlock try to go into the iPhone settings select the app and turn on location always and allow background refresh. For privacy Apple blocks apps from being active and accessing the location services in background unless you allow it

  • @kathyconner9676
    @kathyconner9676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video Dave! I continue to learn about some of the intricate details of my car. Looking forward to it being my daily driver in just a few short weeks! 🤗

  • @RiceLaboratoriesandScreening
    @RiceLaboratoriesandScreening 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Amazing review. Very valid points and accurate breakdown of your likes and dislikes. I agree on mostly everything you stated. I love your improvement suggestions
    I've been wondering about the plug and charge too. Maybe just like Tesla they were thinking that in Korea there may be designated Genesis superchargers that are capable of doing it 🤷🏿‍♀️
    Also is definitely sucks they don't have HDA2 however I still love driving with HDA. Maybe the next MY will have that ability. And the facial recognition always works for me. It's odd you're having issues. I've unlocked the car in pitch dark before
    I could have sworn the passenger seat got ergo massage
    My key card still doesn't work and my phone isn't compatible to be used as a key

  • @ughtentide
    @ughtentide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The main issue I have with the GV60 is the lack of servicing available outside of the 4 states they're on sale... Or so I hear, anyway. I would love to know more about just how serviceable the car is in other states, you know, should something go wrong on a road trip, or if you buy one and take it to another state. Thanks for the info, Dave! Can't wait to see what you buy next! 😆

    • @TrainsFerriesFeet
      @TrainsFerriesFeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure any Hyundai Ioniq 5 dealer could service them.

    • @ughtentide
      @ughtentide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TrainsFerriesFeet I thought as much, too. But since Genesis says that dealers require special training to fix the GV60, that implies that it may not be serviceable in all EV certified Hyundai dealers yet. I imagine it has to do with Genesis being a separate brand from Hyundai, and having separate management to handle warranty claims, etc. But if someone has gotten a broken GV60 repaired outside of the 4 states, I'd love to know how it was handled. 🤷

    • @HiddenAgendas
      @HiddenAgendas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an EV. What service would it need? LOL

  • @frozenrobert5735
    @frozenrobert5735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really appreciate your on-the-ground everyday perspective on using this vehicle. I think this info is way more valuable than the slick videos produced by other people, who don't LIVE with the car and notice it's 'quirks & features' (that's some OTHER guy on TH-cam LOL), and your assessment of the real-world functionality is great. Personally, I have a GV60 performance on order here in Canada, I was fortunate and ordered it last Winter, and my salesperson told me last month it's already on the ship and heading to Vancouver! Crossing fingers for Sept. 2022 delivery. Thanks again!

  • @arminkamali1912
    @arminkamali1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I completely agree with your dislikes. Especially the HUD adjustment, i-pedal auto hold being snappy, and availability of rubber mats and other accessories for this car. I am also not happy about the turning radius. Also the windshield washer jets miss the middle of windshield( minor dislike). All of my previous vehicles (BMWs) had 3 nozzles instead of two. Dave do you have any issues with the app? I can't send direction from the app to the vehicle. Also when I schedule a departure time with climate control setting, the climate control unit in the car switches to Celsius and I have to change it back to Fahrenheit every time.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apps been super reliable for me. However, I haven’t tried the features you mentioned yet

  • @joekeays
    @joekeays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice point about the digital mirror but when I was able to use a digital mirror for 2 weeks, I missed the real mirror properties since I like to check on my kids and or dogs in the backseat with the real mirror. Thanks for reading.

  • @rayepps4201
    @rayepps4201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video on the GV60. Regarding the issue you had with the facial recognition, I always bring a second way to unlock the car. I had a similar problem with the Model Y and my previous phone. The phone-as-a-key feature would sometimes disconnect from the car at random moments and leave me stranded until I got it re-linked. Technology is great until it fails miserably.

  • @shaunmckenna1923
    @shaunmckenna1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you another great review , well I did pick the advance over the performance I am thinking I would prefer the extra range and the price saving , as I said before they are just about the same here in Canada to look at the only thing you would notice is the wheels , lucky here in Canada the trim and interior is the same you do get those lovely seats in the Advance here , I can't wait until Sat to drive it home .

  • @jwlintz
    @jwlintz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave, I listened to your podcast with Jordan and Kyle but couldn’t figure out how to comment, so here I am. You tried to get Kyle interested in doing a video about EV basics and charging but he wasn’t quite buying. I think it’s a fabulous idea. Most of Out of Spec content assumes deep EV understanding. That may be but I personally need a primer. I have a GV 60 on order and would like to learn the geeky stuff before it comes in. You do a great job on your videos and I’m sure you would raise the understanding of many viewers.

  • @tonys9413
    @tonys9413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d take out the headrests in the back seats if it’ll give more visibility to the rear view mirror. Have done it before, and it made a difference.

  • @Antiguan_Dart
    @Antiguan_Dart ปีที่แล้ว

    The HDA2 feature thankfully was in the early releases of models sold in 2022 in the UK so my GV60 Premium model has it.
    I’ve noticed the heating up of my iPhone 12 mini on the Wireless charger- thought it was something I was doing! It has been suggested the phone needs to be out of its case when wireless pad charging to prevent heating up. I’ve yet to try this.

  • @baffes4348
    @baffes4348 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Plug & Charge is probably charger specific. I got a Shell Recharge NFC card with my 22 model in Europe. Means I plug the cable, hold the card to the charger and it starts. Hold card on it again to stop.

    • @Antiguan_Dart
      @Antiguan_Dart ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a GV60 Premium in the UK and have enabled Autocharge for the Fastned network - plug the vehicle in and press start charge button on the charger. No app to open no RFID card to wave. Seems the car has the feature it just needs the appropriate charge networks to support it.

    • @baffes4348
      @baffes4348 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Antiguan_Dart Yeah I got a notification in the genesis app as well. But as you said, it´s only for certain networks (of course those I don´t have close) and for now only MY23. 22 is supposed to get an update for that first. But it´s a minor feature I can easily live without.

  • @beelust4312
    @beelust4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to refine all those features to make me a Buyer.
    Thanks for the cons on this EV.

  • @jbbevan
    @jbbevan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a good overview and is accurate. I don't think some of the gripes are "big deals". For me the big deals are efficiency (which Dave calls Range). I have had three EV's now that run about 230 miles of range and since that pretty much matches my bladder capacity it works out very well. My concern is this car maxes out at about 3.5 mil/kwh. Thus making it the first of the four EV's I've owned that cannot and will not get 4.1 miles/kwh. I have kept a very careful spreadsheet on all of them and this one is substantially less efficient, i.e. it's getting it's 230 miles of range less efficiently than any other car I've owned. It's got a bigger battery but instead of using it to increase range it is used to decrease efficiency. If this were an ICE car that had been converted to an EV I would understand that (maybe)...but as a purpose-built EV I think that efficiency sucks. I came from a Mustang Mach-E which was the first car with plug & charge....so Dave's point about that is well taken. I just shouldn't be this hard to charge the car. All of that could be worked out with software updates...so why not...this Performance version cost $20K more than my MME.

  • @cjonesplay1
    @cjonesplay1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another Great Video OG EV Dave. Range is the biggest shock for me. It’s Hyundai’s Top of The line Brand. Why not Pack the Pack. Load it with the KWH’s. Still a beautiful Vehicle.

  • @rogermartinez78
    @rogermartinez78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review! I want one but I will wait till I retire in ten years. I hope by then Genesis follow all your recommendations!

  • @foolcellsorryfuelcellmirag4835
    @foolcellsorryfuelcellmirag4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review Dave it would be good if you could review others evs in the future. Would be very helpful 👍👍

  • @johnsacks7398
    @johnsacks7398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never had an issue with the facial recognition, even when I test it in my garage in the dark. I have had issues with the fingerprint analysis. I’ve been temporarily unable to start the car more than once

  • @TeddyBearGaming999
    @TeddyBearGaming999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:10 the phone knows which charger to use, it’s completely fine

  • @ELCEV
    @ELCEV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Dave. I have a fairly new Model Y and have been considering the Genesis. Truthfully I think I'll wait until the large seven-seater GV90 SUV made in the US is available. Your video brought up a lot of good points, both good and bad. So one important thing about Model Y is dog mode. Doe this Genesis offer a dog mode, if not that is definitely a deal breaker. Looking forward to your next videos.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rumor has it they are coming out with Dog Mode. You can put the car into utility mode though and run the AC for an extended period of time as opposed to draining your 12v. However, nothing will show on the screen letting people know your pup is cool inside. So I would recommend making up a sign so people don’t break your windows to save a hot pup. Clearly not as elegant as what Tesla and Rivian offer, but at least you know there is a way to accomplish the same thing

  • @slee471
    @slee471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dave
    Great videos on the GV60 Performance. I bought one last month. I noticed on the Genesis Forum on line there is a reported issue involving the BMS system that renders the car not drivable. One forum member noted that at a specific dealer they had 9 GV60 performance models in the repair shop for the same issue and that Genises does not know how to resolve the issue at this time. Is this something that you can look into and perhaps do a video on the subject matter?

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First I heard of it! Point me to the source and I will research

  • @MrGarden8
    @MrGarden8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I took possession of my Advanced GV60 July 28th. Tim @genesisoffairfield walked me through just as he did with Dave; he was thorough!
    2 things for me:
    1. The charging cable is level 1! WHAT?! I have to purchase a level 2 cable separately.
    2. My Samsung is too old and will not support the Genesis App. My husband was able to on his Motorola and he thinks it's great.
    As for the biometrics, I couldn't be happier! I'm 5'5" and don't have to bend over for the facial recognition. It has worked every time; even when it's so dark I can't find the handle! No "boost" button, but she's still rocket fast!
    I've learned a lot from TH-cam videos before I got her, but there is no substitute for hands-on learning! I LOVE my GV60 and wouldn't change her for anything else!

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats!!!

  • @SpyderGeer
    @SpyderGeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave, what app are you using at 3:46? I live in Canada and I don’t think that app is available. I have the Genesis Connect app which I also saw you had on the Home Screen. It looks like the app you pulled up has way more capability.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Genesis Intelligent Assistant

    • @YTYTYTY7
      @YTYTYTY7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hyundai Canada app also lacks greatly in functionality and speed. I hope they bring the US version soon.

    • @SpyderGeer
      @SpyderGeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dconner9 Confirmed. Not in Canada. Odd.

  • @Annette_Hons
    @Annette_Hons ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the exterior color on this GV60 Alta White?

  • @codymck23
    @codymck23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    EV6 has the same issue with overheating the phone on wireless charging. Mine does get to an overheat error message.

  • @markrichards9792
    @markrichards9792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ioniq also shuts off outside air in tunnels

  • @atmos6350
    @atmos6350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did your car’s sticker indicate that it has HDA2? Mine says it but it won’t auto lane change!

  • @zalmyraskin6878
    @zalmyraskin6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave, which blogs offer instructions on how to get the iPhone digital key working? I've gotten it to the point where it says something to the effect of "Digital key is now in Apple Wallet" with a "Continue" button, but can't get it to work past that.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw a Facebook post actually that someone said they got it working. I will try again to get it going

    • @zalmyraskin6878
      @zalmyraskin6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dconner9 thanks for the quick response! I imagine they didn’t specify how they managed that. For what it’s worth, I picked up my vehicle two days in denvile NJ and my rep emphatically said it would not work.

    • @markb2057
      @markb2057 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know why people say the digital key doesn't work on their iPhone. I have a March 2022 build GV60 Performance and it works perfectly with my iPhone Pro Max. I suspect that older iPhones that do not have capabilities for NFC (near field communication), which is the same technology used by Apple Air Tags, is probably why the digital phone key doesn't work. Basically if you have an iPhone AFTER iPhone 6 and have updated at least to iOS 13 the feature should work because they have the NFC hardware/software to make the digital key work.

  • @johnsacks7398
    @johnsacks7398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dave, can I play songs from my TH-cam playlist wirelessly or would that require me to plug it in using CarPlay? Thanks.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will have to test that!

    • @johnsacks7398
      @johnsacks7398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dconner9 that would be great! I got it to work once but ever since I have to plug it in to hear it through the car.

  • @scotduckrow8524
    @scotduckrow8524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lack of radar is a big minus, as it seems to be in the Teslas that were built without it.

  • @ecoheliguy
    @ecoheliguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any experience with the HUD and Polarized glasses?

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not really a sunglasses guy 😎

    • @markb2057
      @markb2057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Since polarized sunglasses are meant to reduce glare AND reflections, they DO diminish the view on the HUD down to about 5-10% of the brightness. Remember the HUD is simply a "reflection" that is projected onto the windshield from an LED monitor recessed into the top of the dashboard...

    • @baffes4348
      @baffes4348 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gets a bit dimmer, but stays readable without artifacts.

  • @amigatommy7
    @amigatommy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HDA 2 requires some chips that Genesis could not get enough of.

  • @cikamastra2903
    @cikamastra2903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the GV60 come with a AC charger like Chevy or Ford ?

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It comes with a basic charging cable you can plug into a 120V standard home wall outlet. It also comes with the V2L adapter

  • @Slimecrazy234
    @Slimecrazy234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Model Y with black performance wheels looks more like a 70k car than this thing does. The exterior design is really contrived. And the circular oval theme in the interior isnt classy either, looks like a 90s ford taurus interior.

  • @ericroadglide9985
    @ericroadglide9985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hyundai and genesis under the hyundai corporate umbrella jerks you around on features more than other makers I'm aware of. The things you site on the gv60... they're high end vehicle should come with every feature they have designed or at least make it available. I'm a 2 hyundai family. A limited is not a limited model to model. ( not talking about chip availability) so I'm bitching while I do give them credit for being the value and feature leader I know but that's frustrating. Charge accordingly if it's a cost thing. Top trim for each model Has ALL THE FEATURES. ARRGH.

  • @amigatommy7
    @amigatommy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a road trip I would want my G90.

    • @EverythingEvo
      @EverythingEvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A sedan over a cross over for a road trip? No thanks. GV60 for a road trip every time.

  • @ericm4840
    @ericm4840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genesis is still advertising Plug and Charge on their web site. That's got to be really frustrating. Plug and Charge is a huge convenience. Bummer.

  • @zerothis23
    @zerothis23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:52 no, that's wrong. The car should make the gas cars shut off their exhausts in tunnels :)

  • @TrainsFerriesFeet
    @TrainsFerriesFeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't been able to find out if the GV60 has a WiFi Hotspot. I know the Ioniq 5 does not.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does not… at least I haven’t found it!

    • @TrainsFerriesFeet
      @TrainsFerriesFeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dconner9 It isn't a deal killer for me, but it is disappointing at that price point. Of course, I live in SC and who knows when they'll be available here.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TrainsFerriesFeet just throw a hotspot off your phone and voilà! Instant WiFi

  • @TassieEV
    @TassieEV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So once the GV60 becomes more popular time to dump it for the next EV on the list that hardly anyone has perhaps? ;) Ioniq 6 maybe.

  • @amigatommy7
    @amigatommy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big wheels are stupid. Rang is similar to the Porche electric; the faster charging does make up for the shorter range.

  • @robert5008
    @robert5008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave your a likeable guy. A very positive man that is why I watch you videos. After going to work from 8 to 10 hours I come home to relax and watch TH-cam. I want to leave behind all the violence and hatred in the world for a few hours. So when I received a noticed of your video I saw your very negative "baiting title" . The word "Hate" is very powerful and negative. I'm sure you receives a lot of clicks of men and women that hate their lives or just want to complain. Because of this drama of "Hate" I only clicked on the link to tell you I refused to watch it. Take it for what you want from my opinion maybe you could have come across a little more constructive in your title.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback. I hear you and appreciate the time you took to write this message to me.

  • @peterfriedman3745
    @peterfriedman3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave, over your month of ownership, what is the miles per KWH you are seeing in the car? Efficiency is definitely my main concern.

    • @dconner9
      @dconner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3.1 m/kWh

    • @peterfriedman3745
      @peterfriedman3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dconner9 Thank you. sounds consistent with what I am hearing. Im sure thats mixed driving (highway/side roads). Thats pretty low. My MY gets about 4 with mixed driving. Thats 60-70 miles of difference. I can sell my MY for a ridiculous profit but there is literally nothing to buy!

    • @tonys9413
      @tonys9413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterfriedman3745 Quantity vs quality ………..

    • @peterfriedman3745
      @peterfriedman3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonys9413 for 70k, I think it would be both.

  • @Wasabi9111
    @Wasabi9111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of the 2, everyone in my family prefers the Ioniq 5 over the gv60. The kids find the gv60 too cramped and claustrophobic in the back. We prefer HDA2 in the Ioniq 5, the more airy cabin and roomier storage for all the junk. We’ve been driving Ioniq much more than the gv60.

    • @YTYTYTY7
      @YTYTYTY7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I really appreciate the ioniq 5 spaciousness at the back. It is like sitting back at a big sedan. And the rear door is huge, which makes it easy to get in and out.

  • @markrichards9792
    @markrichards9792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those wheels look like a aero nightmare

  • @WolfHeathen
    @WolfHeathen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see Tesla has set a standard in terms of esthetic design. Also, I've never understood why computers running the interactive screens have to be so damn slow and laggy. There's simply no reason for it.

  • @markrichards9792
    @markrichards9792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's be fair, you won't keep this car long enough to want to retrofit it with then HDA2. :)

  • @courcheval
    @courcheval 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The price/quality ratio reminds Tesla cars...

  • @amigatommy7
    @amigatommy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I pedal is over-rated.

  • @sheldoncrane3588
    @sheldoncrane3588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you don't have an evil twin for that face recognition ?

  • @whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
    @whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The infotainment looks like a freaking outdated joke.

  • @maryannrondinella5680
    @maryannrondinella5680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was supposed to be your wife's daily driver has suddenly morphed into your $70 K USD impulse buy long distance highway vehicle? No wonder you aren't completely happy, even if your wife likes it. Did either of you even take the car out for a test drive before signing the purchase contract? Maybe you could have saved yourself a lot of money if you just kept one of your VW ID4's. As for a daily driver, your wife would probably do just fine with a much cheaper Nissan LEAF or Chevy Bolt or used Tesla. Sadly, you exemplify the worst stereotype of the affluent, tech-smitten, impulse buyer EV driver. But you make a good point about the lack of floor mats. That's an outrage for a $70K car, forcing you to shop at (shudder!) WALMART! OH THE HORROR!

    • @o751106
      @o751106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The EUV is a good buy. His tastes are just more above that vehicle.

    • @dadstreamsgames7062
      @dadstreamsgames7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this comment is fairly mean and not particularly productive. If you don't like the content or creator, you don't have to watch it or subscribe.

    • @maryannrondinella5680
      @maryannrondinella5680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dadstreamsgames7062 I don't subscribe because content like this reinforces the already extremely negative perceptions about EVs, their non- affordability and faddishness of their target market. This type of content infuriates me as someone who bought an EV ten years that is still my daily driver, and who wants to see much broader adoption. No, I won't watch this crap in the future. Great suggestion!

  • @tedhu262
    @tedhu262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tesla has better fundamentals, software and hardware tech. Software gets smarter forever.