That was awesome, thanks man. Just made a hunter for the first time. Been playing since 2006. Big learning curve and honestly, quite a lot to handle in pvp. Was surprised. Great guide!
Really good video. I was doing the demons but no one really goes into much detail about how to kite. Think people forget alot of us level as simple beast master turrets, pet tanks we stand and shoot no kite needed but when it came to the leaf q it was then that i knew i had to elevate my hunter game and go from turret to actually using the wider scope of the class. Literally watched this vid before bed got up this morning and nailed the ws and ungoro demons one after another purely because of a bit of basic kiting info. Also if you cant get yaht you can use Weapon Swing Timer, it has melee and ranged timers and it looks pretty much the same :)
Gosh, I last played a hunter about 10 years ago and what a huntard I was! Hoping to jump into classic soon and play this class properly... not before taking this channel's hunter masterclass *phew* Great stuff, man!
Can you link me or give me a list of macros that will work for classic things like baked in autoshot macros after other skills or an all in one pet macro, would be greatly appreciated .
Hey man, I like how simplistic YaHT looks - what would you say are it's pros/cons compared to other auto swing timer addons? PS. Just found your channel, great video, thank you.
Classic WeaponSwingTimer addon seems to be pretty resource heavy sometimes. WHen I go from no addons to just that addon I went from like 30 fps with drops down to like 20-25 fps in Loch Modan to like 25-30 fps with 10-15 fps during drops. Yes I'm on a low end machine, but still, it seems to hog some resources. What do you use and how is it working?
@@hesketh7085 Cool. Thanks for the info! WeaponSwingTimer has MH and even enemy MH, but for me what really matters isthe ranged timer which both have anyway. Testing out which one affects performance the least.
Now I am new to wow but I have been playing "hunters" (archers) in other mmos for over 10 years. I used kiting as a method to avoid getting hit but doesn't a pet solve it for you on wow or pets don't hold aggro well? Because if the pets can hold aggro there is literally no point into kiting at least in solo levelling. I guess dungeons and raid are different but you will have a tank for those.
thanks for the video, copy from my reddit question if you have a auto shot time of 2.9 secs does the white bar take 2.9 sec + the red one like 0.5 (+- this is the hidden cool down on auto shot and multi shot or am I wrong) or is the white + red together 2.9 secs ? And if let’s say u start your aimed when the white is already in like 1 second in the cast the aimed will land directly after its 3 second directly followed by an auto. Only after these are finished does the 2.9 time start again right ? So on a 2.9 speed wep I can do the following burst : Auto shot - 3 sec later aimed + auto ( instant or also 0.5 delay ) - multishot 0.5 sec later (multishots hidden delay) So land 4 shots in 3.5 or 4 secs ? If u would press aimed perfectly at the start of the white bar ?
I prefer fast shooting bows with same dps to get off more auto shots in between rotation. Losing dps in cheetah vs hawk cause the xbow takes way too long to shoot so you can't kite in hawk. Xbow good for pvp ganks and dungeons though. I still prefer bows for pvp cause it's easier to kite while consistently getting off shots. You're demonstrating on lvl 52 mobs too as youd get more aggro on lvl 60.
This is not true. A faster weapon needs to shoot more often which means that u have to wait for the shot to release more often (red part of the bat you see in the video)
It only matters when you take into account that multishot and aimed shot are calculated on base damage. So, having a quick weapon makes you miss out on auto attacks when you cast aimed shot, since it takes longer than your weapon's speed. On the other hand, it can be useful to interrupt spells more often in PvP for instance, with a higher AS. However, in general, as long as you kite correctly, speed does not matter. DPS is what mattters. It is just a matter of optimizing your movement during the auto attacks, so, that you do not lose out on movement/damage. Your reasoning makes no sense at all... go do the math and see for yourself.
@@aartdevletter5822 You're mixing arguments. DPS and PvP were not in the discussion (even if kiting is obviously important for PvP for instance). Back to kiting: it's all about movement and I now "do the math" as you demanded.... For the example we'll assume a weapon with a 2 second and a 3 second weapon speed. In addition we need to know that AutoShot castTime in wow classic is 0,5s. Know we'll compare how often this 0,5s cast time will occur in the period of one minute. To make it simple we won't rotate - just AutoShot. Weapon with AS 2,0: 30 shots a minute = 30 x 0,5s -> 15 seconds cast time for AutoShot Weapon with AS 3,0: 20 shots a minute = 20 x 0,5s -> 10 seconds cast time for AutoShot You end up spending 5 seconds less on moving if you don't want to miss out an AutoShot...
@@anonymerwolf5094 I am a fucking retard not realizing that autoshot has casting time in WoW. Playing too much League of Legends recently. Cheers buddy
Although this may not be better for sustained DPS on a boss as the aimed shot and Multi shot CD do not share the same length cooldown. It is definitely a great tool in PVP for potential 1 shots.
holly shit a guide that really shows how things work? youre amazing!
best explanation ever. switching from healer to dps in classic and this was exactly what i needed to see
That was awesome, thanks man. Just made a hunter for the first time. Been playing since 2006. Big learning curve and honestly, quite a lot to handle in pvp. Was surprised. Great guide!
Great video. Thanks for that. You're right. There's not much content that covers it like you've done here.
This is great man! Thanks for making and uploading the videos :-)
Glad you enjoyed! thank you for watching
Really good video. I was doing the demons but no one really goes into much detail about how to kite.
Think people forget alot of us level as simple beast master turrets, pet tanks we stand and shoot no kite needed but when it came to the leaf q it was then that i knew i had to elevate my hunter game and go from turret to actually using the wider scope of the class.
Literally watched this vid before bed got up this morning and nailed the ws and ungoro demons one after another purely because of a bit of basic kiting info.
Also if you cant get yaht you can use Weapon Swing Timer, it has melee and ranged timers and it looks pretty much the same :)
You explained this really well. Thanks!
Thanks for the encouragement. This is a fun project for me.
Gosh, I last played a hunter about 10 years ago and what a huntard I was! Hoping to jump into classic soon and play this class properly... not before taking this channel's hunter masterclass *phew* Great stuff, man!
Really enjoyed this. Keep it up mang!
See you in August!
Great video - just what I need. Cheers fella
Excellent explanation! Thank you very much
I'm aggroing. Should I respec?
I just started a hunter I can't figure out how to about-face without turning 180 manually.
Great vídeos looking forward to play a Hunter in classic
Great to hear
Can you link me or give me a list of macros that will work for classic things like baked in autoshot macros after other skills or an all in one pet macro, would be greatly appreciated .
vanillawowhunter.com/vanilla-wow-hunter-macros/
Here is a good place to start
Hey man, I like how simplistic YaHT looks - what would you say are it's pros/cons compared to other auto swing timer addons? PS. Just found your channel, great video, thank you.
Classic WeaponSwingTimer addon seems to be pretty resource heavy sometimes. WHen I go from no addons to just that addon I went from like 30 fps with drops down to like 20-25 fps in Loch Modan to like 25-30 fps with 10-15 fps during drops. Yes I'm on a low end machine, but still, it seems to hog some resources. What do you use and how is it working?
@@Dreleosh As a hunter I'm using YaHT and it's awesome. Probs wouldn't use it for a melee char tho as it only does main hand I believe
@@hesketh7085 Cool. Thanks for the info! WeaponSwingTimer has MH and even enemy MH, but for me what really matters isthe ranged timer which both have anyway. Testing out which one affects performance the least.
what about instant abilities like serpent sting and arcane shot? i can cast on the red?
ty. great vid I really like them.
play since vanilla start but never played hunter, thanks! :)
is yaht available with the new version of wow classic? I can't find on curse or wowace or wow interface
Yaht doesnt ever stop for me. it keeps going and doesnt show how yours does in the video. any fixes?
Whoever liked I figured it out lol. U just gotta lock it in the settings
@@josephsori342 ty for reply lol was about to delete it
REDRUM hahaha np
Now I am new to wow but I have been playing "hunters" (archers) in other mmos for over 10 years. I used kiting as a method to avoid getting hit but doesn't a pet solve it for you on wow or pets don't hold aggro well? Because if the pets can hold aggro there is literally no point into kiting at least in solo levelling. I guess dungeons and raid are different but you will have a tank for those.
so red = you dont do anything and auto attack and white you can either move or cast an ability?
y
thanks for the video, copy from my reddit question
if you have a auto shot time of 2.9 secs does the white bar take 2.9 sec + the red one like 0.5 (+- this is the hidden cool down on auto shot and multi shot or am I wrong) or is the white + red together 2.9 secs ? And if let’s say u start your aimed when the white is already in like 1 second in the cast the aimed will land directly after its 3 second directly followed by an auto. Only after these are finished does the 2.9 time start again right ? So on a 2.9 speed wep I can do the following burst :
Auto shot - 3 sec later aimed + auto ( instant or also 0.5 delay ) - multishot 0.5 sec later (multishots hidden delay) So land 4 shots in 3.5 or 4 secs ? If u would press aimed perfectly at the start of the white bar ?
It would be 4 shots in 4 seconds. I replied to your reddit comment if you want more details. Let me know if I understood your question correctly!
what exact name of this addon? cant find anything. Pls
Weapon Swing Timer, just google hunter addons and you will get a link
thanks man, needed this, very noob-friendly
How to stop autoshot? with macro????
Pretty sure you can use a line /cleartarget
super helpful, thank you
Thanks for watching!
Cheers lad!
thank you so much for this video !!! it is so helpful !!!! :) :)
Great video! I was always confused by yaht and what the red part means, thank you! The ingame music was a bit distracting, maybe turn it off next time
THANK YOU
I prefer fast shooting bows with same dps to get off more auto shots in between rotation. Losing dps in cheetah vs hawk cause the xbow takes way too long to shoot so you can't kite in hawk. Xbow good for pvp ganks and dungeons though. I still prefer bows for pvp cause it's easier to kite while consistently getting off shots. You're demonstrating on lvl 52 mobs too as youd get more aggro on lvl 60.
You're fucking awesome for making this
A slower weapon does not matter if you kite correct
This is not true. A faster weapon needs to shoot more often which means that u have to wait for the shot to release more often (red part of the bat you see in the video)
It only matters when you take into account that multishot and aimed shot are calculated on base damage. So, having a quick weapon makes you miss out on auto attacks when you cast aimed shot, since it takes longer than your weapon's speed.
On the other hand, it can be useful to interrupt spells more often in PvP for instance, with a higher AS.
However, in general, as long as you kite correctly, speed does not matter. DPS is what mattters. It is just a matter of optimizing your movement during the auto attacks, so, that you do not lose out on movement/damage. Your reasoning makes no sense at all... go do the math and see for yourself.
@@aartdevletter5822
You're mixing arguments. DPS and PvP were not in the discussion (even if kiting is obviously important for PvP for instance).
Back to kiting: it's all about movement and I now "do the math" as you demanded....
For the example we'll assume a weapon with a 2 second and a 3 second weapon speed. In addition we need to know that AutoShot castTime in wow classic is 0,5s.
Know we'll compare how often this 0,5s cast time will occur in the period of one minute. To make it simple we won't rotate - just AutoShot.
Weapon with AS 2,0: 30 shots a minute = 30 x 0,5s -> 15 seconds cast time for AutoShot
Weapon with AS 3,0: 20 shots a minute = 20 x 0,5s -> 10 seconds cast time for AutoShot
You end up spending 5 seconds less on moving if you don't want to miss out an AutoShot...
@@anonymerwolf5094 I am a fucking retard not realizing that autoshot has casting time in WoW. Playing too much League of Legends recently. Cheers buddy
nice
why is there obnoxiously loud and distracting music in this
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You can actually multi shot just as aim shot finishes, you will cast aim shot, multi shot, and an auto attack, all in one.
Although this may not be better for sustained DPS on a boss as the aimed shot and Multi shot CD do not share the same length cooldown. It is definitely a great tool in PVP for potential 1 shots.
Better off casting aimed shot auto shot multi shot auto shot even in pvp if you have the time. Harder to do with slow hitting xbow though
great video, but potato quality
hey man i don't mean to be rude but you could've at-least lowered your music in-game volume lol
Camera was all of over the place. You Constantly repeated yourself and made what could of been a 2 minute video last over 10 minutes.