+James :) Revan: "Isn't there? Then why did you tell me all about your life as a slave? I sense that somewhere inside you... that you know that the path you are on now isn't getting you what you wanted: to free slaves from their masters."
I always found it really jarring that when you kill both teachers and leave the tomb suddenly you are a traitor to the sith. by their ideology, wouldnt killing your teachers basically put you on the honor role? I mean the whole idea of the sith is that power determines your station, so when you leave the tomb wouldn't it make more sense if the students wanted to learn from you? or at the very least want to kill you to increase their prestige?
+davo46 Me too. I just got through playing KOTOR again and now that I'm older and pay more attention (I was a kid the last time I played.) I was kind of confused.
I just played through it last week, the reason the whole academy turns on you if you kill both is because they think that if THEY kill you THEY will become the master. Too bad for them I single handedly slaughtered everyone in there. (:
And neatly displays the problems with the Sith at the same time - you can't get anything constructive done if every day you have to fend off mass attempts at assassination.
I guess they're all so hopelessly greedy that their minds have basically stopped working. Even the lowliest worm will be like, "shit, this is my chance! I SHALL BECOME DARTH SQURIMIUS!"
spoiler: .. not only can you turn her back to the light but if you complete the planets in a certain way, she will be on Datooine and you can visit her with some extensive dialogue. Most assume she is never heard from again but its not true. She rejoins the order and meets up with her old master. She still has confliction but sounds like shes making effort to stay for retraining..
+Blazer Hell not necessarily.. yes datooine is destroyed but you don't know who survives. The Jedi masters show up in Kotor 2 so obviously they survived.
I LOVE the character development in this game. I never expected her to actually still have good left in her. But this threw me for a spin and it was awesome!
A lot of it is due to glitches. I don't think I had a single playthrough in which I completed everything, simply because some quests (especially companion ones) tend to be moody, and will appear on one playthrough and won't on other. It's a roullette. Same goes for some romance options. Sometimes they work properly, sometimes not, nothing you can do.
After all these years of playing this masterpiece, I’m still seeing unknown depth to all these characters, all these.. choices you could make along your journey. Absolutely incredible, thanks for sharing!
This game has soooo much story and development that there are alot of different ways to defeat an oponent and either change or leave that person to the dark side its soo cool
until this vid, i never played this part of Sith training to get this branch of conversation and ending for Yuthura. Thank you for showing us how amazingly complex ans sophisticated the original KOTOR was
Doubt you'll see this BUT thank so much for your videos they've really helped me to find some this games deeper hidden secrets and have been super useful! I cant wait to play KOTOR II soon
I have played this game around 6 times all the way through, I thought I had done everything I could have done, and you have proved me wrong, I had no idea this was an option, you are a master of kotor /bow
Welp I feel like a piece of trash now. I didn't think she was even redeemable.....totally assumed the persuade stuff was for pointless backstory that wouldn't affect anything.
She kinda reminds me of Fenris from Dragon Age 2 (btw also Bioware game). Both were slaves, both can be "converted"under certain circumstances (Fenris can be taught to tolerate mages) and both are my favourite minor characters
again, watch the credits. And about Korriban: for different reasons. Bastila was just afraid of being recognized (because some of those Sith WOULD recognize Bastila, but apparently NONE of them knew what Revan looked like. I guess Revan liked to keep a mask on even BEFORE you turned to the dark side. *sigh* doesn't make sense.) Kreia was more afraid of the power of Korriban itself.
@@comicsans1689 u sure? Pretty sure it wouldn't be a mod, considering that Bastila actually has voice lines on Korriban. There's probably a way to get her onto Korriban in the base game, otherwise Bastila wouldn't have any voice lines.
@AntiguoEspectro Absolutely. With better graphics, additional side quests, costumes, and items, and bug fixes, nothing would be better than a KOTOR 1 remake.
In the MMORPG Star Wars: The Old Republic, the first flashpoint (instance) boss you are going to face as an Imperial character is a Twi'lek Jedi Padawan named Yadira Ban. She is very devoted. I hope you realize the reference ...
This is gonna really help, I never focused on her much and I usually ended up killing them both at the same time hehe lol. I'm gonna give this a try, thanks for the vid!! Oh by the way, how many persuation points did you need to do this?? Thanks again!
If they made a KOTOR mode where you could redeem anyone from the dark side of the force, but you could only redeem it once per game, who would you redeem? ❓❓❓❓❓❓❔❔❔❔❔❔❔❔❔❔
I honestly tried but I couldn't get her to open up to me so she didn't become my friend and when the time came I sided with her only to find out that she was going to kill me so I restarted from the previous save and took on both her and Uthar with 30% health and no health packs
@kusindan There's probably an answer somewhere in the comments given how frequently the question is asked, but I wondered that too. When I landed on Korriban with Bastila, everybody agreed that she should stay on the Ebon Hawk since every single Sith in the galaxy was searching for her and knew exactly what she looked like.
@Cybertoco totally man, I love seeing all these alternate storylines I haven't played out myself, been through it like ten times and haven't seen it all yet.
Never ever knew about this whole Yuthura redemption path, this is very very nice. So in this alternative her tale is somewhat like that of Anakin.. she thought she could use the Dark Side to do good but in the end she succumbed to it and freed no slaves whatsoever. Skywalker had the same idea about saving Padme.. but using the Dark Side he met the same fate, and in the end he quite failed to achieve the original idea, just as Yuthura.
(I'm guessing) Possibly Juhani. When Juhani began her training, she had little peace because of her parents and the Mandalorian slaver, so she fell to the dark side before being brought back by Revan.
my favorite is still owning the academy. if you do korriban last and your DS you can side with the master and kill yuthura and he will recognize you as darth revan and says when you return i will follow you (not those exact words obviously)
The Jedi Council reprogrammed me into a Soldier/Jedi Guardian character with zero skill in persuasion. When I talked to Yuthara, she only told me about how she escaped. I couldn’t make her budge about how she became a Sith. Then, after doing the tombs and clearing out the cave, BEFORE I told Uthar about my progress, I went back to her one more time just to try it one more time and it worked first try. Is this pure dumb luck, or does completing tombs give you a higher chance of dialogue success with her?
Ok, two things I'd like cleared up; 1. Does poisoning Uthar affect whether or not this succeeds? 2. What's the minimum number of persuade skill you found you needed? Just starting to get back into this game for the 3rd time, and starting to uncover more of the insanely large number of side quest options. (Scout / Consular for a change) =P
I feel that way when I go to other people's houses as I'm a guest in their home. If you decide to violate that, I decide to withhold my respect for you. I just won't put up with people who won't be respectful. Most people around here like me because I show them respect because they show respect for me.
whoah how'd u get bastila to get inside the academy? is it a mod? btw nice video. are there any other sith besides i think mekel and bastila to join the jedi again?
See how often Revan used the 'persuade' dialogue choice when talking to Yuthura? You have to select this option when speaking w/ Yuthura to get her to relax and bond w/ Revan. In order for these persuade dialogue options to be available & to work, the player has to pay into the persuade skill when leveling up. You've got to increase your persuade ability almost every time, if not every time you level up, in order to have enough persuade skill to turn Yuthura from the dark side. Good luck!
Well at least Bastila and Revan get to make out and she is a great character who can turn you to the dark side. Juhani is a lesbian who doesn't want to fall to the dark side but she gets angry in the "Threat from Xor" quest, especially if you want to sell her.
Thank you TehPrincessJ of Telling me this secret =D. I always thinked Yuthara is just some kind of Bantha Poo-Doo. Actually she is just a lost jedi ^.- Great action. But i got 2 queastions. How did you manege to take Bastilla of the ship in Korribian and how did you get this uniform. I know it's a mod but what mod send me a link Please ;).
@crazylegoproductions you do... but its still pretty much prebooked.. with all the possible story twists and turns already known.. to the creators of corse.
And then Malak bombed the ever loving hell out of the jedi academy on dantooine.... Most likely killing every god damn sith we turned to the light along with all the other people there. Talk about a bitch slap to the face. God i love this game
I started this but I accidentally got dark side points so I reloaded the save and then for some reason the game glitched and the game acted as if I had insufficient persuasion points, oh well playing it again won't be that painful.
@hqndersA Mod but you can do it without a mod on the pc version. Look up how to enable cheats on the at some site like gamewinners ect and you can just use the warp cheat to take her.
Does this work if Dantooine has already gone boom-boom? Because if it does, I'd prefer that Yuthura flee to a different Jedi temple. I just don't like the idea of someone as dark as her being brought back and then dying anti-climactically in a Sith bombardment. That and Korriban is always the last planet I visit because Bastila can't come. Could someone please tell me?
Wow...I didn't know this was possible. This is what I love about KOTOR, even the minor characters have a bit of depth.
+Tim Phillips More than we can say about the prequels.
+Joker11297 And probably real people....
Joker11297 More than we can say about the originals as well.
Joker11297 - And the sequels.
More than we can say about any star wars movie.
Revan: "Your thoughts betray you, Yuthura. I feel the good in you. The conflict..."
+James :) Revan: "Isn't there? Then why did you tell me all about your life as a slave? I sense that somewhere inside you... that you know that the path you are on now isn't getting you what you wanted: to free slaves from their masters."
99thJediWarrior i in
I always found it really jarring that when you kill both teachers and leave the tomb suddenly you are a traitor to the sith. by their ideology, wouldnt killing your teachers basically put you on the honor role? I mean the whole idea of the sith is that power determines your station, so when you leave the tomb wouldn't it make more sense if the students wanted to learn from you? or at the very least want to kill you to increase their prestige?
+davo46 Me too. I just got through playing KOTOR again and now that I'm older and pay more attention (I was a kid the last time I played.) I was kind of confused.
I just played through it last week, the reason the whole academy turns on you if you kill both is because they think that if THEY kill you THEY will become the master. Too bad for them I single handedly slaughtered everyone in there. (:
And neatly displays the problems with the Sith at the same time - you can't get anything constructive done if every day you have to fend off mass attempts at assassination.
I guess they're all so hopelessly greedy that their minds have basically stopped working. Even the lowliest worm will be like, "shit, this is my chance! I SHALL BECOME DARTH SQURIMIUS!"
It makes even less sense considering you are Darth fucking Revan and you ARE their superior even before killing them.
8:18 - "Let's get this over with quickly"
8:21 - "Unghhh! Stop! I... I yield!"
That was quick!
Yes. Al Bundy wife once said the same thing to Al.
Sometime i just love saying things out of the theme :D
three seconds lol
Skyrim be like
spoiler:
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not only can you turn her back to the light but if you complete the planets in a certain way, she will be on Datooine and you can visit her with some extensive dialogue. Most assume she is never heard from again but its not true. She rejoins the order and meets up with her old master. She still has confliction but sounds like shes making effort to stay for retraining..
+Blazer Hell not necessarily.. yes datooine is destroyed but you don't know who survives. The Jedi masters show up in Kotor 2 so obviously they survived.
Also Yadira Ban might be a possible ancestor.
I LOVE the character development in this game. I never expected her to actually still have good left in her. But this threw me for a spin and it was awesome!
shit... i killed them both
thought the last option was the light option
damn bioware, your games were so complex back then, what happened to you??
EA happened.
AgE happened
Jeez, there is so much shit I miss in this game, no matter how many playthroughs.
A lot of it is due to glitches. I don't think I had a single playthrough in which I completed everything, simply because some quests (especially companion ones) tend to be moody, and will appear on one playthrough and won't on other. It's a roullette. Same goes for some romance options. Sometimes they work properly, sometimes not, nothing you can do.
One of my favorite Sith characters from this game. I had no idea this was an option.
I like how she salutes by "May the Force be with you" at the end, instead of the Sith equivalent "May the Force serve you well". Well done.
After all these years of playing this masterpiece, I’m still seeing unknown depth to all these characters, all these.. choices you could make along your journey. Absolutely incredible, thanks for sharing!
This game has soooo much story and development that there are alot of different ways to defeat an oponent and either change or leave that person to the dark side its soo cool
Yuthura is one of my favorite (non-companion) characters in either game.
The sheer awesomeness of this game never ceases to amaze me.
8:18 Yuthura "Let's... get this over with. Quickly."
Revan: "K"
8:22 Yuthura "Unghhh! Stop! I... I yield!"
hahaha
until this vid, i never played this part of Sith training to get this branch of conversation and ending for Yuthura. Thank you for showing us how amazingly complex ans sophisticated the original KOTOR was
its to bad she can't become a companion
Well there's a mod, that allowes you to recruit her on Dantooine.
She should be a companion if you kill Juhanni
Doubt you'll see this BUT thank so much for your videos they've really helped me to find some this games deeper hidden secrets and have been super useful! I cant wait to play KOTOR II soon
So many years later, people still comment on this video.
I have played this game around 6 times all the way through, I thought I had done everything I could have done, and you have proved me wrong, I had no idea this was an option, you are a master of kotor /bow
Welp I feel like a piece of trash now.
I didn't think she was even redeemable.....totally assumed the persuade stuff was for pointless backstory that wouldn't affect anything.
^
She kinda reminds me of Fenris from Dragon Age 2 (btw also Bioware game). Both were slaves, both can be "converted"under certain circumstances (Fenris can be taught to tolerate mages) and both are my favourite minor characters
Hey, good job on this. I'm sure many people will enjoy it! :D
Wow, I didn't know you could redeem Yuthura! I'll have to try that next time I play!
Haven't tried the recruit Yuthura mod, yet. I don't really enjoy silent party members. But I'll check it out one of these play-thrus! :)
Another Bastila on Korriban vid...*sigh*
again, watch the credits.
And about Korriban: for different reasons. Bastila was just afraid of being recognized (because some of those Sith WOULD recognize Bastila, but apparently NONE of them knew what Revan looked like. I guess Revan liked to keep a mask on even BEFORE you turned to the dark side. *sigh* doesn't make sense.)
Kreia was more afraid of the power of Korriban itself.
Wait a second: You have Bastila in your party. Every time I went there I couldn't take her. Even if its before she gets capture by Malek.
It's a mod.
@@comicsans1689 u sure? Pretty sure it wouldn't be a mod, considering that Bastila actually has voice lines on Korriban. There's probably a way to get her onto Korriban in the base game, otherwise Bastila wouldn't have any voice lines.
I always couldn't get her to open up to me. Thanks for this!
yadira ban in TOR as the boss of black talon is a fun easter egg in reference to yuthura's redemption
+Colyo I noticed that, too.
Wuw, I never realized we could convinced Yuthura...gives me a little tingly feeling in my belly...maybe I'm just hungry.
THANKS Princess!
Bro I have been replaying this for over 15 years, didn’t even know I could redeem her
after you said your skiping the saber battle that last clinging sound scared me XD
wait a sec.
Bastila says that line because she is on korriban
BUT!
If you take juhani with you, she says the exact same line. Explanation?
that- "QUIET!" that is the best part... ^_^
@AntiguoEspectro
Absolutely. With better graphics, additional side quests, costumes, and items, and bug fixes, nothing would be better than a KOTOR 1 remake.
When she leaves to go back to the Jedi, Revan turns arounds and says, "Looks like you've been... BANNED! Muahaha!"
That isn't Bastilla
@@sinisterisrandom8537
Her name is Ban, you dig?
Interesting how Bastila is there with you.
On Korriban.
In the MMORPG Star Wars: The Old Republic, the first flashpoint (instance) boss you are going to face as an Imperial character is a Twi'lek Jedi Padawan named Yadira Ban. She is very devoted. I hope you realize the reference ...
This is gonna really help, I never focused on her much and I usually ended up killing them both at the same time hehe lol. I'm gonna give this a try, thanks for the vid!! Oh by the way, how many persuation points did you need to do this?? Thanks again!
If they made a KOTOR mode where you could redeem anyone from the dark side of the force, but you could only redeem it once per game, who would you redeem?
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I honestly tried but I couldn't get her to open up to me so she didn't become my friend and when the time came I sided with her only to find out that she was going to kill me so I restarted from the previous save and took on both her and Uthar with 30% health and no health packs
@kusindan There's probably an answer somewhere in the comments given how frequently the question is asked, but I wondered that too. When I landed on Korriban with Bastila, everybody agreed that she should stay on the Ebon Hawk since every single Sith in the galaxy was searching for her and knew exactly what she looked like.
Yes it is. But Bioware made it impossible for her to travel with you on the final release for the sake of making sense.
@Cybertoco totally man, I love seeing all these alternate storylines I haven't played out myself, been through it like ten times and haven't seen it all yet.
unless they ask a redundant question...then you shred them to pieces.
Yuthura sounds like Mara Jade if anyone agrees with me...
Now that you've said it, yeah, I guess Mara Jade would sound like that :3
Jakub I also noticed that the mandalorian soldier Davrel from TSL sounds like the clone adviser from republic commando.
Jack Seems like they kind of did
Actually they did. Yuthura Ban''s voice actor also played Komari Vosa in Star Wars: Bounty Hunter.
its a mod where you can make items w/ the workbench on the Ebon Hawk and those robes are called CUSTOM BATTLE ROBES (BLACK)
If only they made kotor 3
Never ever knew about this whole Yuthura redemption path, this is very very nice.
So in this alternative her tale is somewhat like that of Anakin.. she thought she could use the Dark Side to do good but in the end she succumbed to it and freed no slaves whatsoever. Skywalker had the same idea about saving Padme.. but using the Dark Side he met the same fate, and in the end he quite failed to achieve the original idea, just as Yuthura.
When yuthura said "go, get more prestige!" it imediately reminded me of mw2
I dont suppose you could tell me where you got that retex for Revan's Robes, could ya?
I never knew of this...so much I haven't experienced in this game! What an incredible game...how complex can a game get?
'Behoove'. That's a word you don't hear every day.
Dark side of the force is pain and hatred
(I'm guessing) Possibly Juhani.
When Juhani began her training, she had little peace because of her parents and the Mandalorian slaver, so she fell to the dark side before being brought back by Revan.
ugh. I have a high persuade but I couldn't convince her to tell me the last part of her story :c
I guess she just doesn't like me as much.
my favorite is still owning the academy. if you do korriban last and your DS you can side with the master and kill yuthura and he will recognize you as darth revan and says when you return i will follow you (not those exact words obviously)
The Jedi Council reprogrammed me into a Soldier/Jedi Guardian character with zero skill in persuasion. When I talked to Yuthara, she only told me about how she escaped. I couldn’t make her budge about how she became a Sith. Then, after doing the tombs and clearing out the cave, BEFORE I told Uthar about my progress, I went back to her one more time just to try it one more time and it worked first try. Is this pure dumb luck, or does completing tombs give you a higher chance of dialogue success with her?
nice work on yuthura, i could never get her to trust me
Ok, two things I'd like cleared up;
1. Does poisoning Uthar affect whether or not this succeeds?
2. What's the minimum number of persuade skill you found you needed?
Just starting to get back into this game for the 3rd time, and starting to uncover more of the insanely large number of side quest options. (Scout / Consular for a change) =P
She seemingly survives as a Yadira Ban appears in SW:TOR.
manisajurk is correct. As long as you make her your friend, you can choose to redeem her. On both xbox AND PC.
Longest comment chain I've seen so far..... and it even destroyed the Space-time continuum.
nice character! i want to make a vid which will show u darth sion as an ally. not that i know how it happend, but it was on korriban encounter 1/2.
nice reskin on the revan robes! i just did a reskin on the flowing cape and belt mod (i added shaders)
I feel that way when I go to other people's houses as I'm a guest in their home. If you decide to violate that, I decide to withhold my respect for you. I just won't put up with people who won't be respectful. Most people around here like me because I show them respect because they show respect for me.
Where did you download the non-hooded Revan's clothes mod? Anyway, nice one! I'll try it next time xD
whoah how'd u get bastila to get inside the academy? is it a mod? btw nice video. are there any other sith besides i think mekel and bastila to join the jedi again?
How is Bastila there? Every time I played she doesn't go walking around Korriban because the Sith would recognize her.
derpdog a mod, I assume.
Me, too. I'm thinking about making a Yuthura PC mod. Her and Zaerdra. ;) They're both gorgeous.
Yes. I haven't tried it yet, but I might (just to see how funny it'd be to have him with the group at the final scene xD ).
I love her.
A great lady.
Because at one point, she was SUPPOSED to be able to leave the Ebon Hawk on Korriban. Then Bioware decided to cut it all.
See how often Revan used the 'persuade' dialogue choice when talking to Yuthura? You have to select this option when speaking w/ Yuthura to get her to relax and bond w/ Revan. In order for these persuade dialogue options to be available & to work, the player has to pay into the persuade skill when leveling up. You've got to increase your persuade ability almost every time, if not every time you level up, in order to have enough persuade skill to turn Yuthura from the dark side. Good luck!
nice vid, I didnt know you could do that haha
Aye.
Saved and redeemed.
Just like Jedi should do.
Well at least Bastila and Revan get to make out and she is a great character who can turn you to the dark side.
Juhani is a lesbian who doesn't want to fall to the dark side but she gets angry in the "Threat from Xor" quest, especially if you want to sell her.
Thank you TehPrincessJ of Telling me this secret =D. I always thinked Yuthara is just some kind of Bantha Poo-Doo. Actually she is just a lost jedi ^.- Great action. But i got 2 queastions. How did you manege to take Bastilla of the ship in
Korribian and how did you get this uniform. I know it's a mod but what mod send me a link Please ;).
yea it could if u think about it. but i think revan is still the one she spoke about, cause like i said k1 is all about revan.
to have bastila on korriban, youmust be using PC and you can get a mod that allows it. The option thing, I don`t know.
Man this game is a Gem
it'd be nice if you could make her a follower to fill the hole in the roster made if you kill the cat lady
OMG, that would be EPIC!
@crazylegoproductions you do... but its still pretty much prebooked.. with all the possible story twists and turns already known.. to the creators of corse.
i know you commented this forever ago but, he used a console command to tp there....probably
And then Malak bombed the ever loving hell out of the jedi academy on dantooine.... Most likely killing every god damn sith we turned to the light along with all the other people there.
Talk about a bitch slap to the face.
God i love this game
The Bastila part is a mod. If I remember correctly I think you can redeem Yuthura. Go to Kotor Files on gamefront for mods. Google kotor files.
Nope. The grenade was part of a one shot deal, when choosing which to use to pass the acid pool yourself. It's no longer usable after that.
thanks, i wasnt sure. i only just now saw the other comment about it being on xbox
Nice vid.
And it's a rather AWESOME mod, too. :D
I started this but I accidentally got dark side points so I reloaded the save and then for some reason the game glitched and the game acted as if I had insufficient persuasion points, oh well playing it again won't be that painful.
yes. As long as you go there BEFORE the Leviathan. Watch my "Redeemed Yuthura On Dantooine" vid.
@hqndersA Mod but you can do it without a mod on the pc version. Look up how to enable cheats on the at some site like gamewinners ect and you can just use the warp cheat to take her.
Its a mod, im pretty sure its simply called Bastilla on Korriban, search it on KOTOR Filefront
Does this work if Dantooine has already gone boom-boom? Because if it does, I'd prefer that Yuthura flee to a different Jedi temple. I just don't like the idea of someone as dark as her being brought back and then dying anti-climactically in a Sith bombardment. That and Korriban is always the last planet I visit because Bastila can't come.
Could someone please tell me?
again, I believe my persuade was at 13 when I did this. Not sure what the min. is, though.
shes using some type of mod. she is wearing revans armor and that isn't available at this point in the game
I didn't know this was even possible
Aaaahh my favorite....conversation in Kotor :D