@@DoktersocksNot gambling, you lose no money from going to the trial vaults. It does encourage gambling in a certain way, but if we follow that logic, all mob drops should be 100% guaranteed, which doesn’t sound good.
i first thought "because they pissed me off" wasnt a good reason for a lawsuit but since learning that mojang's terms of service is just "because we dont like it" this makes perfect sense
"Pissing someone off" is many times observed in trial as an relevant fact btw. I don't know if it would come up in contract law, but in criminal law there is such thing as "revenge", "state of mind" and "protection of pride" to be considered. You could argue about "emotional damages" a poor management of a contract might have done, for example.
Mojang really is getting themselves into legal hot water over the fact that they don't want guns to be associated with their brand... and yet you can see a gun in the Minecraft movie trailer
@@egornick9206 mojang is also responsible. There's no evidence it's only microsoft and i can bet you that Agnes doesn't mind these decisions at all. That being said, fuck microsoft
Mojang's announcing TOS changes is just making me think of Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. "The TOS changes were on display." "On display? I had to go down to the cellar to find them."
with a torch because the lights were out, and i found the tos in a locked file cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "beware of the leopard"
It feels like Minecraft has become so safe and corporate-friendly that it basically is just a money-press that they wanna protect than a game culture they wanna grow
But some of the things they are doing are putting them in a dangerous situation with their hypocrisy especially since they literally added a gun in the minecraft movie I'm not going to say a Minecraft movie until there's more than one
There are also alowed guns on the market place And that is the thing that’s pisses me off the most The fact they say guns aren’t alowed and sell guns on the minecraft market place themselves
gunpowder is generally made from carbon, sulfur, and saltpeter (and maybe other stuff idk), so they're not quite the same. so it makes sense that mojang would rename it in the first place. changing it back to sulphur would just be silly.
Minecraft after Microsoft acquired Mojang is a children "children game". Like literally, I mean exactly how I wrote it. They took a game that looked like a children game, was a game popular with children too, and made it extra child friendly. how can you ban "adult weapons" (wtf even does that mean too) from a PRIVATE SERVER that you have to know about to enter? this is not something you will accidentally stumble upon, you literally have to search it up to find it. I wont even talk about their "profanity filter" because its just unbelievably extreme and BAD. Microsoft is targetting Minecraft too much into children market, ignoring the huge playerbase it has amongst adults. This makes me think of when Lego started releasing adult sets and changed their marketing to also appear adult like. Mojang, please, stop being extra child friendly. It makes people even embarassed to just admit of playing minecraft. tbh, the game got a lot better since Microsoft bought Mojang, but they did make a lot of harm to the game too. I wish theyd finally stop focusing so much on young kids like its minecrafts only players. i literally can not watch any official minecraft video because it makes me cringe so hard, they look like videos made for preschool kids.
@@pzb1017 wasn't Microsoft themselves selling kid's data to god knows who? And then were sued? And then they were sued again because they kept doing it?
Mojang: "guns aren't allowed in player-created maps because it goes against our terms of service." Also Mojang: *lets blatant gambling mechanics run wild on the Purple Prison server for over a decade*
B-But think of the kids! Can you imagine the lifelong trauma that kids will certainly recieve upon seeing a collection of pixels that resemble a gun in this incredibly realistic game? Not even talking about what might happen if they see that image of a gun shooting projectiles, and . . if you can stomach it, I warn you- even harming another entity? clearly, such horrible imagery must be banned in the very family friendly game of minecraft. Gambling is fine though, children are clearly fully capable of making financial decisions on the same level as an adult.
A life long gambling addiction is profitable to Microsoft’s other gambling- I mean, loot box- mechanics in their other games! It’s simply ensuring loyal customers for life!
@@mrziiz6893 I don't know what you are talking about they don't have gambling or loot boxes anywhere. The only thing they do have are *_surprise mechanics_*
I personally donated to the fundraiser. This has been going on for way too long. Their preferential treatment of the marketplace, and subsequent screwing over of anyone that doesn't directly make them money, has gotten so blatant that I don't know how this hasn't happened sooner.
Mojang alone might not be, but Microsoft sure as heck is. Any court case against Mojang is an extreme uphill battle because Microsoft can afford to finance it indefinitely. Regardless of your opinion on the matter that's the reality of the situation.
I watched the video yesterday and there’s a part where he says “Unlike America where companies can do whatever they want Mojang is based in Sweden” He is right about that but Mojang is owned by Microsoft which is based in the USA and according to his words Microsoft can do whatever they want
It depends. Afaik bedrock edition is being developed in the USA by a separate studio, meanwhile Java edition is still being developed by OG developers in Sweden. That's why its no longer just Mojang, its Mojang Studios.
Sweden have jurisdiction over Mojang, but NOT Microsoft... this doesnt mena you cant sue Mojand, since in the eye of the law Mojang and Microsoft is two completely different entity which just happen to have the same ownership (think about it this way: youhave a 18 year old son who still lives with you, if he breaks the law YOU cant be dragged in front of the court for it, but yours son CAN be... and if he needs to paya fine you are basically indirectly gonna pay it yourself, despite its not you who broke the law -realistically speaking). ALSO Microsoft is ALSO in actuality bound by the European consumer protection laws, UNLESS its going out of the way to region block European customers from buying the game (basically, you can only participate in a market if you accept its rules), that beeing said, its WAAAAAY MORE messy of a chase, since its gonna result in a very costly argument over which court have the jurisdiction to rule in this chase (and hence, its jsut much easier to sue Mojangover it instead of Microsoft).
Honestly, good on him for trying to hold them acocuntable. Unfortunately, the most thats going to happen is that every time they decide to change the EULA, they push it to your launcher before you can start the game, and you can't play till you accept it. Yeah, that's a step above the hidden rules garbage, but unfortunately they still get to dictate the entire terms and change them at any time, and you still have no choice but to accept if you want to use the product you paid for.
I think third party launcher should be more common. AT launcher let's you play any version of java, and add mods from curseforge, modrinth, etc straight from the launcher
Last time they changed the EULA (meaning the current version, I mean) it was to change only the wording to make it clearer and more explicit to what they mean not adding new stuff to it, just stating the previously unstated if anything. [Vague language makes for stricter terms; that's why the language became clear and direct.]
@@therobloxpro8262 The law allows them to do that regardless of how bullshit it is. It's one of the scummiest and worst problems we have right now for consumer protections.
isn't that also illegal lol? i think ive heard of that happening with another game before, you cant just change an eula randomly and block access to a product someone already owns until they accept, especially for an offline singleplayer game with only optional multiplayer...
Whatever makes mojang more money is whats allowed, they're a business before anything and don't give a shit about the people that made them what they are and keep their relevancy...
Also the fact they even changed the default offline skin to a pink haired lady. I saw that as a sign that something shady was going on. It’s looking familiar……
Pickaxe, hoe, trident it's a pointy adult weapon Shovel and mace because it's a blunt adult weapon Bow and crossbow because it's a pointy ammo with explosives adult weapon Sword and axe because it's a blade sharp adult weapon If they say "ADULT WEAPON" then everything in those list is an adult weapon and yes the throwable item (snow ball, ender eye a literal glass of ball and egg can be potentially dangerous weapon)
@@liamdonegan9042i highly doubt the case is winnable in US jurisdiction. Half the things mentioned in that video, if not more, are legal in US. It should be possible in Sweden though.
This whole situation should have happened a long time ago - but it’s really hard to get a mega corporation to budge, and harder to sue them properly. I feel bad for everyone who was affected by the stupid EULA stuff.
It wasn't a gun it was a mechnical object that add a really big amount of force to a sphare of metal to move toward something and then it deal damage to it.
@@matopgaming8858 Ah yes All good then. This mechanical object that add a really big amount of force to a sphere of metal to move toward something and then it deal damage to it is obviously completely child-friendly.
@@matopgaming8858isn't that just the definition of a gun? bullet gets propelled at a high force inside a mechanical thing idk to deal s significant damage or death to the target
I hate when companies or mod hosting websites clamp down on mods. Mods are unofficial and optional, therefor the only people that are affected by them are those who choose to download them. As long the mod doesn't contain any malicious code or something illegal (e.g. someone's social security number or the recipe for crystal meth), it should be allowed. No exceptions. When companies play the moral arbiter and start banning certain types of mods for whatever reason, it stifles freedom of creativity.
I mean, I kind of get it? Mods are definitely in something of a legal gray area. If I spent time and money developing a game, personally I would absolutely love for people to make modifications to it and make all sorts of changes to the game. Modding has always been one of my favorite parts of PC gaming. However, I would not be very happy if people started using the fact that I allow mods to make modifications that I do not like or that go against my beliefs- ie something like a mod that adds pornography or lets you murder children. It 100% should be within the rights of the owner of the game being modified to dictate what is and is not allowed to be done to their game. The problem in this case is that Mojang DOES allow modification (a good thing), they DO generally provide guidelines for what they do and do not want to see done with their game (also a good thing), HOWEVER they are not always clear about what's allowed or not (a bad thing) and they do not uniformly enforce their rules (also a bad thing). It's also not fair to say that the only people affected are those who choose to download them. Someone doing something bad with your product can very well lead to bad press, and it's happened in the past.
@@cloudywinters4150 Snowballs are dangerous because they might contain ice and cut whoever they hit. Clearly, they must be removed the protect "LeBrand" TM
Oh no! Game developer owned by famously monopolistic publicly traded company is getting sued for their shady practices, who could have predicted that ?
@@ArcadianCatharsis multiple servers have been going since Minecraft was fully released that endorsed gambling, and promoted themselves to children. The Minecraft eula says that these servers shouldn't be allowed to use gambling as a mechanic in general, but does nothing to servers that have gambling in them
Why....why don't they just have a child safe mode for users under 13.... This would prohibit them from seeing guns and whatever other stuff is there. I don't get why mojang cant just implement an internal flagging system that users/parents can abide by if they so choose.
@@MrBananaThe1stbecause microshit would rather make Minecraft for children and dont give a fuck about adults playing this game instead of making actually good changes
Maybe while they're at it, they can restore the accounts of players banned by the godawful chat reporting added *a decade after the game launched,* as well as people who didn't migrate their accounts.
I've been shouting that the mace is the most hypocritical addition to the game because of that adult content weapons statement. But everyone just said that statement never happened. Well here it is folks and theirs a legal case now, which I said would happen eventually, in a comment on itzjhief.
@@argonhammer9352 Actually, capitalism is when an individual can own the capital, and there are non-corporate economies which uphold the capital, like Distributism, Market Socialism, Mutualism etc..
Arbitrarily restricting fans from including guns in a game where swords, bows, and explosives are iconic staples of the game's violence is a nonsensical standard. Minecraft is a game with cartoonish violence baked into its identity, for better or for worse. Microsoft needs to stop seeing Minecraft as something to be limited and only ever child-friendly and embrace its unparalleled potential as a platform to build content within. It's not economically sensible for them to winnow their demographic down to children rather than seeking to embrace their entire playerbase.
Yeah… imagine shunning the majority of their player base now. Most children think Minecraft sucks, most of the players are us, the adults who have played since we were kids.
*Mojang "Logic":* _"You can't have guns as they are violent! This is a kid's game!"_ *Community:* _"Sooo about those swords, axes, crossbows, TNT, gunpowder CURRENTLY in the game..."_ Mojang: *Community:* _"If you REALLY were _*_concerned about kids,_*_ such as GAMBLING which is the far worse problem, you wouldn't allow "vote crates" on popular servers."_ Mojang:
I'm not going to give it money because I haven't looked into it much myself, but I do think banning firearms from the game is stupid. I also think if they do ban them, no server should have it. Mojang Studios is weird with their enforcement of things. Even their reasoning for not adding some things to their game falls apart under moderate scrutiny. If they did break the law, I hope they are held accountable.
Does Minecraft really think banning guns is going to look good with people who also play with their competitor? (Fortnite) I know several people who play both, and there are millions more
I don't even think banning firearms specifically is the root problem here. I don't believe Mojang should have the *legal* right to moderate third person content in *any form whatsoever*. I don't care if it "hurts their brand". They don't get to decide what people do with their own copy of the game.
@@DevMan2342 Fortnite is no competator its not in the same genre the only similar thing is "Oh you can build things" Fortnite is not a competator to minecraft.
Mojang when they realize that swords and bows are *weapons* designed to *kill* things (The children will be exposed to the horrors unless they stop it)
yeah, thats a pretty good summary of most european nations court system... spending 5 years in court over a single issue is considered "lightning fast".... You can literally die of old age before a dispute is resolved by the courts if both sides are trying to exhaust every legal option (especially because court like to throw the entire chase back to the previous court and re-do the entire thing on their level if they dont agree with even the tinniest bit - and forget about dismissing the chase - which mean you can easily end up in a ping-pong match between two court until the heat death of the universe...)
Blame the culture of America itself, corporations are expected to achieve endless profits and exponential growth which is unsustainable long term. This issue leads to the economic consequences of collapse and underhanded tactics in places without protection laws, what Microsoft is doing is common place in America.
The best way for us as a community to fight this is for everyone to completely disregard what mojang wants And do what we want anyway. They wanna bully us into compliance, bully them back and see who breaks first Situations like this is what happens when you give conpanies rights.
@@TheImmortal2705 You're Right, But a few things. Yes Microsoft is a "big" company but that doesn't make them any less of a "company" meaning they still have to abide by the law basically what I'm saying is, If we sue them its gonna reality check them to either 1. Stop them from doing in the future or 2. gets the community noted of what is happening that way if it does happen again in the future then more people are gonna notice and they will be sued again.
Glad your covering this. The video popped up yesterday for me and I watched it. This needs to be more publicized, since this could potentially change how contracts are written and what you can and can’t in video games.
"because we dont like it" brilliant work on the entire terms of service vague as hell can change on a dime and you dont have to announce terms of service changes to anyone
I don't believe hypixel does have a licensing agreement since I remember a few changes they made in the past to abide with the eula (colosseum in skyblock was removed, I'm pretty sure it was because of eula but I may be wrong)
It was because people could buy booster cookies, which could be used to buy gear, which could be used to kill people on colosseum, which was being able to gain an advantage against other players by spending money, which was against Eula.
Kians totally the goat but I can't take those eyebrows and shorts seriously it looks like his mom is gonna walk into the recording and tell him to do his laundry.
Banning anything in Minecraft literally removes the whole point of the game, creativity and doing whatever you want, you can tell Microsoft and Mojang do not understand their own videogame, no wonder people hate both of them, they are ruinning what once was a perfect videogame.
Mojang should just keep their fingers out of content they aren't responsible for. They shouldn't even have a "adult content" clause. Its not their business.
Bending the knee to activists is weak. “Wahhh guns bad guns bad” Like Minecraft ever inspired someone to hurt anyone. These people need to cry me a river
@@addisonpage1 Neither did any violent video game that a lot of kids play, this might be crazy to say but people, even kids, can actually tell apart fiction from reality. I know this is a crazy theory to a lot of people but it's true.
@@Z38_US Kids also aren't dumb, they know when a game is talking down to them. If you treat your audience like they are stupid, they don't want to be your audience anymore.
@@pocketsizedweeb Exactly, I'm assuming that the vast majority of people that are somwhere in their 20's or 30's now have played or watched violent games/shows when they were young, none of those people became violent IRL as a direct result of that. It's just a bunch of bs to scare people, always has been. I remember an old news story in my country (germany) after a mass shooting in the early 2000's where they claimed he trained his aim with the game Counter-Strike lmaoo
>Be Mojang >think about banning "dangerous" stuff >not make a decision (still allow "dangerous" stuff) >dude doesn't make server >dude rages and gets mad and instead of studying laws he makes a video
Since Mojang doesn't want firearms to be connected to their brand, they are seriously putting themselves in legal hot water. However, the trailer for the Minecraft movie shows a rifle.
I’m 100% sure that that isn’t a gun. It may look similar, but I don’t remember any part of the movie trailer where someone is shown firing that thing as a gun, nor being said that it was one. This is just the community spouting one of their dumb rants.
This is a bot stealing a top comment: "Mojang really is getting themselves into legal hot water over the fact that they don't want guns to be associated with their brand... and yet you can see a gun in the Minecraft movie trailer"
I think this comparison it used too much, even as a joke. There is no slavery in Minecraft, at least that isn't Mojang's intention with villager trading.
Calling villager trading halls "slavery", even as a joke, is extremely disrespectful in my opinion. It's nothing in comparison to the unspeakable horrors of real slavery.
this whole situation is like a dead end, neither microsoft nor the eu cares enough about this hypocrisy to put an end to all of the illegal stuff mojang is doing, which is pretty insane because minecraft is the most bestselling videogame
Whole lot of "Rules for thee but not for me" going on with Mojang. Almost like what your allowed to get away with is proportional to how much foot traffic you bring to the game.
is it wrong for me to think that minecraft as a sandbox game shouldnt tell you as a player how to have fun? it just seems so wrong that a game once aimed at giving people the choice/freedom to do anything they want has become more concerned about things like name, brand, and money instead. welcome to corporate controlled minecraft i guess, "You can have fun, but we decide how!"
“Adult weapons” You telling me that swords and bows, used for killing animals and people for a way longer time than guns have even existed, are not adult weapons? Just look up a video of someone piercing a piece of meat with a bow and arrow, or slicing it with a sword. Just like guns, these weapons too (like most weapons) are meant for killing, and in some cases have been more gruesome than one bullet hole.
Years ago it was: you buy a game you get the content. Do not use altered content for your own financial gain (as in madding and selling that as your own game). Mojang now, treats Minecraft not only as just "one game" but all in all a platform/website. Constantly changing, constantly being worked over. So all in all you bought just the access.... idk i forgot what the point was i tried to make
"we want to ban adult weapons"
Ok everyone, snowballs are the only acceptable way to fight mobs now.
Eggs
@@egornick9206 That's teenager.
stick
ooh that actually sounds like an interesting challenge lol
Me: how about I become Poseidon
Uses a trident to fight everything
“We don’t allow gambling” meanwhile they do literally nothing about p2w servers that have said gambling
Trial vaults:
And..the Minecraft marketplace don’t even get me started
@@DoktersocksNot gambling, you lose no money from going to the trial vaults. It does encourage gambling in a certain way, but if we follow that logic, all mob drops should be 100% guaranteed, which doesn’t sound good.
where else is SalC1 gonna get his content from?
@@definitely_just_floating and thats why they made them seed specific and NOT random
i first thought "because they pissed me off" wasnt a good reason for a lawsuit
but since learning that mojang's terms of service is just "because we dont like it"
this makes perfect sense
im so close to 410subs:(((;,;;,,;
Agreed.
@@Zeglnaytt8nuh uh, thats not how you gain subs my boy
that was the joke probably
"Pissing someone off" is many times observed in trial as an relevant fact btw. I don't know if it would come up in contract law, but in criminal law there is such thing as "revenge", "state of mind" and "protection of pride" to be considered. You could argue about "emotional damages" a poor management of a contract might have done, for example.
Mojang really is getting themselves into legal hot water over the fact that they don't want guns to be associated with their brand... and yet you can see a gun in the Minecraft movie trailer
Not to mention gunpowder and tnt being IN THE GAME ALREADY
You might even say that they shot themselves in the foot
You can? When?
@@Blarnix 1:51 on the latest minecraft movie trailer when they're about to jump off with elytras. It's at the bottom right hand of the screen
@@Hash6624 *GET OUT!!!*
but yes
Me when I'm in a *bad decision making* competition and my opponent is a big corporation like *Microsoft:*
Finally someone is actually blaming the root of the problem and not the Mojang themselves!
@@egornick9206 mojang is also responsible. There's no evidence it's only microsoft and i can bet you that Agnes doesn't mind these decisions at all. That being said, fuck microsoft
Microsoft messing up something they bought? They would never!!! (oh wait)
@suspicioussand I needed this laugh, thanks lol
im so close to 410subs:(((;,;;,,;
Mojang's announcing TOS changes is just making me think of Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
"The TOS changes were on display."
"On display? I had to go down to the cellar to find them."
Real
Great comparison actually
With a torch, and it was guarded by a lion.
UNEXPECTED H2G2 REFERENCE
with a torch because the lights were out, and i found the tos in a locked file cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "beware of the leopard"
It feels like Minecraft has become so safe and corporate-friendly that it basically is just a money-press that they wanna protect than a game culture they wanna grow
But some of the things they are doing are putting them in a dangerous situation with their hypocrisy especially since they literally added a gun in the minecraft movie
I'm not going to say a Minecraft movie until there's more than one
If only it were funny to point out that you did say "a Minecraft Movie"...
@@dashfire3185 welp.......
Yeah, I like games that have devs that actually like their own game (like terraria
Thing is korpos are forced to chase ESG brownie points. M$ is perfect example of korpo. So they have to chase it
Those fireflies were Pandora's box, man. Ever since they were scrapped it felt like Mojang has been on a constant downward spiral.
Yeah.
They were once thoughtful and generous.
Now they are fools, cowards and hypocrites.
It's not only microsoft's fault.
It's on them too.
@@abyssmage6979 yeah
downward spiral
@abyssmage6979 I'm sick and tired of people scapegoating Microsoft, yeah they're a problem too, but Mojang is no saint
Minecraft: "we're banning all references to guns!"
also Minecraft: **GUNPOWDER**
Real
It's funny to think it used to just be "sulfur" a very neutral name
There are also alowed guns on the market place
And that is the thing that’s pisses me off the most
The fact they say guns aren’t alowed and sell guns on the minecraft market place themselves
gunpowder is generally made from carbon, sulfur, and saltpeter (and maybe other stuff idk), so they're not quite the same.
so it makes sense that mojang would rename it in the first place. changing it back to sulphur would just be silly.
there is also a gun at 1:51 in the official minecraft trailer
Minecraft after Microsoft acquired Mojang is a children "children game". Like literally, I mean exactly how I wrote it. They took a game that looked like a children game, was a game popular with children too, and made it extra child friendly. how can you ban "adult weapons" (wtf even does that mean too) from a PRIVATE SERVER that you have to know about to enter? this is not something you will accidentally stumble upon, you literally have to search it up to find it.
I wont even talk about their "profanity filter" because its just unbelievably extreme and BAD.
Microsoft is targetting Minecraft too much into children market, ignoring the huge playerbase it has amongst adults.
This makes me think of when Lego started releasing adult sets and changed their marketing to also appear adult like. Mojang, please, stop being extra child friendly. It makes people even embarassed to just admit of playing minecraft.
tbh, the game got a lot better since Microsoft bought Mojang, but they did make a lot of harm to the game too. I wish theyd finally stop focusing so much on young kids like its minecrafts only players. i literally can not watch any official minecraft video because it makes me cringe so hard, they look like videos made for preschool kids.
I lov how Microsoft just does not give any crumb of care to any of their IP’s. They’ll fumble the bag so hard that they won’t correct themselves.
One might they *love* children too much xd
As a young adult I agree with this statement.
@@pzb1017 wasn't Microsoft themselves selling kid's data to god knows who?
And then were sued?
And then they were sued again because they kept doing it?
People love blaming microsoft...
This is all mojang btw, lazy and incompetent leadership, they're driving their own brand into the ground
cant believe hes suing mojang for breaking the law
@@SauloRodrigues-z2pA M O N G U S
I can
Cant believe the usa legal system was the bay harbour butcher
He's suing because he believes they are, but the word of law is full of technicalities which good lawyers know how to exploit
I hate mojang and Minecraft now, i absolutly not joking
Mojang: "guns aren't allowed in player-created maps because it goes against our terms of service."
Also Mojang: *lets blatant gambling mechanics run wild on the Purple Prison server for over a decade*
B-But think of the kids!
Can you imagine the lifelong trauma that kids will certainly recieve upon seeing a collection of pixels that resemble a gun in this incredibly realistic game?
Not even talking about what might happen if they see that image of a gun shooting projectiles, and . . if you can stomach it, I warn you-
even harming another entity?
clearly, such horrible imagery must be banned in the very family friendly game of minecraft.
Gambling is fine though, children are clearly fully capable of making financial decisions on the same level as an adult.
Umm… Docms casino on Hermitcraft?
A life long gambling addiction is profitable to Microsoft’s other gambling- I mean, loot box- mechanics in their other games! It’s simply ensuring loyal customers for life!
@@mrziiz6893 I don't know what you are talking about they don't have gambling or loot boxes anywhere.
The only thing they do have are *_surprise mechanics_*
@@ErtplaysHermitcraft is a server where all the members are grown adults, it also does not cost real life money
I donated to help the lawsuit happen. I’m so sick and tired of Mojang fucking around with people like this.
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Unfortunately, Microsoft is most likely going to win just due to their sheer financial relevance. It’s the sad truth.
I personally donated to the fundraiser. This has been going on for way too long. Their preferential treatment of the marketplace, and subsequent screwing over of anyone that doesn't directly make them money, has gotten so blatant that I don't know how this hasn't happened sooner.
I absolutely hate how they made bedrock edition into a shitfest circlejerk for investors and Mojang itself, like bro.
For some reason, this didn't surprise me.
*Actually, I say they kind of had it coming. You're not too big to fail, Mojang!*
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Mojang alone might not be, but Microsoft sure as heck is. Any court case against Mojang is an extreme uphill battle because Microsoft can afford to finance it indefinitely. Regardless of your opinion on the matter that's the reality of the situation.
Microsoft is.
Its microsoft mojang dont make thease choices they only develop the game directive.
@@Vocktile
Blaming Microsoft for Mojang’s incompetence is classic Mojang-Stan behavior
I watched the video yesterday and there’s a part where he says “Unlike America where companies can do whatever they want Mojang is based in Sweden” He is right about that but Mojang is owned by Microsoft which is based in the USA and according to his words Microsoft can do whatever they want
It depends. Afaik bedrock edition is being developed in the USA by a separate studio, meanwhile Java edition is still being developed by OG developers in Sweden. That's why its no longer just Mojang, its Mojang Studios.
Sweden have jurisdiction over Mojang, but NOT Microsoft... this doesnt mena you cant sue Mojand, since in the eye of the law Mojang and Microsoft is two completely different entity which just happen to have the same ownership (think about it this way: youhave a 18 year old son who still lives with you, if he breaks the law YOU cant be dragged in front of the court for it, but yours son CAN be... and if he needs to paya fine you are basically indirectly gonna pay it yourself, despite its not you who broke the law -realistically speaking). ALSO Microsoft is ALSO in actuality bound by the European consumer protection laws, UNLESS its going out of the way to region block European customers from buying the game (basically, you can only participate in a market if you accept its rules), that beeing said, its WAAAAAY MORE messy of a chase, since its gonna result in a very costly argument over which court have the jurisdiction to rule in this chase (and hence, its jsut much easier to sue Mojangover it instead of Microsoft).
Even if a company is based outside the EU, they still have to follow the guidelines if they have their services within countries under said laws.
This isn't how ownership and companies work.
If your selling shit in different countries you need to follow the laws still dude
Glad to see that you're covering this as well.
yeah it helps get information out
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@@cuphead7552 starlo wishes he could have this level of drip
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@@angela_bestAI true
Honestly, good on him for trying to hold them acocuntable. Unfortunately, the most thats going to happen is that every time they decide to change the EULA, they push it to your launcher before you can start the game, and you can't play till you accept it. Yeah, that's a step above the hidden rules garbage, but unfortunately they still get to dictate the entire terms and change them at any time, and you still have no choice but to accept if you want to use the product you paid for.
i dont think they are allowed to do that
I think third party launcher should be more common. AT launcher let's you play any version of java, and add mods from curseforge, modrinth, etc straight from the launcher
Last time they changed the EULA (meaning the current version, I mean) it was to change only the wording to make it clearer and more explicit to what they mean not adding new stuff to it, just stating the previously unstated if anything. [Vague language makes for stricter terms; that's why the language became clear and direct.]
@@therobloxpro8262 The law allows them to do that regardless of how bullshit it is. It's one of the scummiest and worst problems we have right now for consumer protections.
isn't that also illegal lol? i think ive heard of that happening with another game before, you cant just change an eula randomly and block access to a product someone already owns until they accept, especially for an offline singleplayer game with only optional multiplayer...
Whatever makes mojang more money is whats allowed, they're a business before anything and don't give a shit about the people that made them what they are and keep their relevancy...
Mojang is managed by microsoft. Before 2014 mojang wouldnt have been like this. Blame microshart not mojang
@Tropics09-o6d
@Tropics09-o6d yeah it's always a leadership problem with big projects, sadly notch himself said it wasn't his thing
@@Tropics09-o6d it's silly to pretend mojang has ZERO input on these decisions. They're not saints
@objectionablycurious no i understand that however i believe that this would t happen if it was just mojang
Mojang: Guns are strictly NOT allowed ‼️
Unless we feel like it 😀
No no no
They allow it if it makes them money that's the difference. It's not if they feel like it, it's if they make money from it
@@Finalizor they feel like if it makes them money
Which is why they’re allowing guns on the marketplace which charges overpriced fees on creators
Oh thank god your bringing attention to this
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@@Laughitys cry me a river
@@DevMan2342its a bot, bots are skibidi
Also the fact they even changed the default offline skin to a pink haired lady.
I saw that as a sign that something shady was going on. It’s looking familiar……
@@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPD idk if you were going to reference DEI hires
If Guns are "Adult Weapons" than you have to get rid of Bows and Swords because they can kill just as much as guns.
And axes!
Trident, mace
Crossbow loaded with Fireworks made using Gunpowder.
Don’t forget about the crossbow capable of launching explosive projectiles. In my country that qualifies as a firearm.
Pickaxe, hoe, trident it's a pointy adult weapon
Shovel and mace because it's a blunt adult weapon
Bow and crossbow because it's a pointy ammo with explosives adult weapon
Sword and axe because it's a blade sharp adult weapon
If they say "ADULT WEAPON" then everything in those list is an adult weapon and yes the throwable item (snow ball, ender eye a literal glass of ball and egg can be potentially dangerous weapon)
Double standards do nothing but cause pain and resentmen. Either do total enforcement or no enforcement, nothing in-between.
the reason why he mentioned Sweden specifically is because Mojang falls under Swedish jurisdiction.
And he is also Swedish afaik, so he is going to sue them in Sweden
It falls under any jurisdiction in which it does business in, too
@@liamdonegan9042i highly doubt the case is winnable in US jurisdiction. Half the things mentioned in that video, if not more, are legal in US. It should be possible in Sweden though.
This whole situation should have happened a long time ago - but it’s really hard to get a mega corporation to budge, and harder to sue them properly. I feel bad for everyone who was affected by the stupid EULA stuff.
Has:
Gunpowder
Gun in "A Minecraft Movie"
Disallow:
- Gun related items
Gun'tpowder
It wasn't a gun it was a mechnical object that add a really big amount of force to a sphare of metal to move toward something and then it deal damage to it.
@@matopgaming8858 Ah yes All good then. This mechanical object that add a really big amount of force to a sphere of metal to move toward something and then it deal damage to it is obviously completely child-friendly.
@@matopgaming8858isn't that just the definition of a gun?
bullet gets propelled at a high force inside a mechanical thing idk to deal s significant damage or death to the target
*Readers added context:* There is no gun in the movie trailer. Why do you all keep regurgitating this stupid lie. Dead internet theory.
I hate when companies or mod hosting websites clamp down on mods. Mods are unofficial and optional, therefor the only people that are affected by them are those who choose to download them. As long the mod doesn't contain any malicious code or something illegal (e.g. someone's social security number or the recipe for crystal meth), it should be allowed. No exceptions. When companies play the moral arbiter and start banning certain types of mods for whatever reason, it stifles freedom of creativity.
Exactly.
Yet they allow shitty overpriced “addons” and “worlds” in the marketplace, buggy messes that may or may not work for whatever reason.
@@definitely_just_floating someone should sneak a backdoor into a marketplace mod that lets them disable the marketplace for that user
I mean, I kind of get it? Mods are definitely in something of a legal gray area. If I spent time and money developing a game, personally I would absolutely love for people to make modifications to it and make all sorts of changes to the game. Modding has always been one of my favorite parts of PC gaming. However, I would not be very happy if people started using the fact that I allow mods to make modifications that I do not like or that go against my beliefs- ie something like a mod that adds pornography or lets you murder children. It 100% should be within the rights of the owner of the game being modified to dictate what is and is not allowed to be done to their game. The problem in this case is that Mojang DOES allow modification (a good thing), they DO generally provide guidelines for what they do and do not want to see done with their game (also a good thing), HOWEVER they are not always clear about what's allowed or not (a bad thing) and they do not uniformly enforce their rules (also a bad thing). It's also not fair to say that the only people affected are those who choose to download them. Someone doing something bad with your product can very well lead to bad press, and it's happened in the past.
1:42 "this is Minecraft a block created in 2011 by mojang"
Wait what?
According to mojang's own terms they have to remove swords tridents axes bows and crossbows.
They are weapons.
Mojang is breaking their own rules.
At that point remove PvP since you can kill people
Iron and all the block too because it's a throwable stuff irl
@@cloudywinters4150 Snowballs are dangerous because they might contain ice and cut whoever they hit. Clearly, they must be removed the protect "LeBrand" TM
Yeah the hypocrisy is crazy.
@@superNova5837You now can't punch in Minecraft since it will hurt
Oh no! Game developer owned by famously monopolistic publicly traded company is getting sued for their shady practices, who could have predicted that ?
This shit started way before Microsofts involvement.
Check your self.
@@Pwnopolis can you explain?
For once, Microsoft isn't to blame here.
@@ArcadianCatharsis multiple servers have been going since Minecraft was fully released that endorsed gambling, and promoted themselves to children. The Minecraft eula says that these servers shouldn't be allowed to use gambling as a mechanic in general, but does nothing to servers that have gambling in them
@@Pwnopolismicrosoft owns minecraft for over 70% of its lifetime.
Why....why don't they just have a child safe mode for users under 13....
This would prohibit them from seeing guns and whatever other stuff is there.
I don't get why mojang cant just implement an internal flagging system that users/parents can abide by if they so choose.
Not possible for oh so many reasons. But atleast your offering solutions.
@@Pwnopolishow come? /gen
@@MrBananaThe1stbecause microshit would rather make Minecraft for children and dont give a fuck about adults playing this game instead of making actually good changes
@@MrBananaThe1stmods
If you ask why they don't want to work they want money
Pheonix SC needs to hire mojang
Old camman18 ahh comment section
Bro what are you doing here? Go back to your petitions, Soldier.
Fellow Romanian?!
C'mere brother
@Fronne ok what are the actual odds I get recognised
This man escaped from camman18
If they are banning "adult weapons," does that mean that swords and maces are for children? Or are those supposed to be squeaky toys then?
Right cause….
There is literally an enchantment called sharpness.
What about bows? Maybe they should just ban combat all together since its not for children.
Maybe while they're at it, they can restore the accounts of players banned by the godawful chat reporting added *a decade after the game launched,* as well as people who didn't migrate their accounts.
I've been shouting that the mace is the most hypocritical addition to the game because of that adult content weapons statement. But everyone just said that statement never happened. Well here it is folks and theirs a legal case now, which I said would happen eventually, in a comment on itzjhief.
Because it's profit Mojang that why it allowed 😂
I'm rooting for the guy suing here, but that is a cold weapon, of which minecraft already has
Mojang, the no fun police called.
STOP HAVING FUN!!!!!!!!!
Did you mean to say "fun police"?
@@Fastskull nope
They are doing stupid stuff
Mojang is the no fun police, yea that sounds true
“We don’t like what you are doing” neither do we Mojang.
Corporatocracy and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
It's=it is
Its=possessive pronoun
It was covered last year (at least I think it was last year) when people were spamming the Waffle House comment.
Thats just captalism, bud
"Corporatocracy"
u mean capitalism, you know, rule by capital?
@@argonhammer9352 Actually, capitalism is when an individual can own the capital, and there are non-corporate economies which uphold the capital, like Distributism, Market Socialism, Mutualism etc..
@@maxzation good thing he said "rule by capital", not just "own the capital"
0:35 wow source 2 train looks incredible!
Valve cooked 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's the old layout of the train 🗿
how is that source 2
@@jamess.7811 The joke is that Hypixel's gamemode Cops & crims is a copy of Counter strike, which got a version on source 2.
Arbitrarily restricting fans from including guns in a game where swords, bows, and explosives are iconic staples of the game's violence is a nonsensical standard. Minecraft is a game with cartoonish violence baked into its identity, for better or for worse. Microsoft needs to stop seeing Minecraft as something to be limited and only ever child-friendly and embrace its unparalleled potential as a platform to build content within. It's not economically sensible for them to winnow their demographic down to children rather than seeking to embrace their entire playerbase.
Yeah… imagine shunning the majority of their player base now. Most children think Minecraft sucks, most of the players are us, the adults who have played since we were kids.
*Mojang "Logic":* _"You can't have guns as they are violent! This is a kid's game!"_
*Community:* _"Sooo about those swords, axes, crossbows, TNT, gunpowder CURRENTLY in the game..."_
Mojang:
*Community:* _"If you REALLY were _*_concerned about kids,_*_ such as GAMBLING which is the far worse problem, you wouldn't allow "vote crates" on popular servers."_
Mojang:
a corporation unevenly enforcing a eula? what's next, humans breathing air?
Next: fire burns
Fork found in kitchen
Couch in a house?
The floor being the floor!
Water being wet.
I saw that video last night and I’m really happy that you’re addressing it.
I'm not going to give it money because I haven't looked into it much myself, but I do think banning firearms from the game is stupid. I also think if they do ban them, no server should have it.
Mojang Studios is weird with their enforcement of things. Even their reasoning for not adding some things to their game falls apart under moderate scrutiny. If they did break the law, I hope they are held accountable.
Does Minecraft really think banning guns is going to look good with people who also play with their competitor? (Fortnite) I know several people who play both, and there are millions more
I don't even think banning firearms specifically is the root problem here. I don't believe Mojang should have the *legal* right to moderate third person content in *any form whatsoever*. I don't care if it "hurts their brand". They don't get to decide what people do with their own copy of the game.
@ no, they do definitely get to decide, but the way they’re doing it is just scummy. “We don’t like what you’re doing”
Servers
No
Personal worlds or small servers meant for friends or small communities doesn’t matter
@@DevMan2342 Fortnite is no competator its not in the same genre the only similar thing is "Oh you can build things" Fortnite is not a competator to minecraft.
I thought it was this time of the month again 😭
RIP
nice pfp
Mojang when they realize that swords and bows are *weapons* designed to *kill* things (The children will be exposed to the horrors unless they stop it)
Yeah those are unacceptable, put those kids in the mines for a more fulfilling childhood
Don't worry, at the rate they work they'll make it to court by 2040 and make it a verdict vote.
The Minecraft legal vote where they give the players a choice between getting guns or getting updates
yeah, thats a pretty good summary of most european nations court system... spending 5 years in court over a single issue is considered "lightning fast".... You can literally die of old age before a dispute is resolved by the courts if both sides are trying to exhaust every legal option (especially because court like to throw the entire chase back to the previous court and re-do the entire thing on their level if they dont agree with even the tinniest bit - and forget about dismissing the chase - which mean you can easily end up in a ping-pong match between two court until the heat death of the universe...)
Smells like this is just Mojang serving as the Gates for Microsoft's overreach.
I still don't understand why a multimillionaire company would ruin everything like (mods or paid capes) just to get even more money
Because they didn't become a multi TRILLION dollar company by not exploiting anyone and everything in reach for maximum profit
*multi-billionaire
Gotta remember that
Also, agreed.
It's always about the money, shpiderman.
Blame the culture of America itself, corporations are expected to achieve endless profits and exponential growth which is unsustainable long term. This issue leads to the economic consequences of collapse and underhanded tactics in places without protection laws, what Microsoft is doing is common place in America.
The best way for us as a community to fight this is for everyone to completely disregard what mojang wants
And do what we want anyway.
They wanna bully us into compliance, bully them back and see who breaks first
Situations like this is what happens when you give conpanies rights.
Be honest with yourself, this is hardly gonna impact them. They are owned by Microsoft after all.
@@TheImmortal2705 You're Right, But a few things. Yes Microsoft is a "big" company but that doesn't make them any less of a "company" meaning they still have to abide by the law basically what I'm saying is, If we sue them its gonna reality check them to either 1. Stop them from doing in the future or 2. gets the community noted of what is happening that way if it does happen again in the future then more people are gonna notice and they will be sued again.
@@Ploomy7499 Either that, or they get better at hiding it.
@@Ploomy7499 there is a third option, that is to show the minecraft community how easily a corporation can bend the rules in it's favour
Who will win, billion dollar company vs a few thousand players being a mild nuisance
Mojang is sneakier than somebody in the deep dark
Well said lol
@@gloxost Thank you
By how much? Both can be pretty loud lol. Mojang has been committing actual crimes for a while now
"Face it, brother. Minecraft is dead. The fire is gone. You're chasing phantoms."
-Gabriel, ultrakill
Nothing but scrap...
You're getting rusty, machine
Actually glad you're addressing this situation about time someone took Mojang to task.
6:42 Completely out of topic, but phoenix's head matches kian's so well here lol
I cannot unsee it
He's got such a tiny little head
I was about to comment the same thing
anyone else feel like the word "realistic" can't possibly describe anything in a game where everything is made of blocks
Definitely over-used but everyone gets tired of saying pseudo-realistic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Glad your covering this. The video popped up yesterday for me and I watched it. This needs to be more publicized, since this could potentially change how contracts are written and what you can and can’t in video games.
Remember when everyone loved Mojang for being a chill company?
Yeah 10 to 12 years ago...
Too bad nobody thinks Microsoft is a chill company.
@@RioManegos microsoft is a shill company, anything for profit
Mojang's whole deal used to lowkey be not giving af, but now it's just highkey giving af
remember when micr$oft didn't own mojang?
Everyone are equal under the law but some people are "equaler"
*MUCH* equaler
"because we dont like it"
brilliant work on the entire terms of service
vague as hell
can change on a dime
and you dont have to announce terms of service changes to anyone
Mojang: any form of gambling is a no-no.
Meanwhile Piglins in the nether: *spanish guy laugh meme*
And then i gabe him a water bottle instead of obsidian
*Laugh*
Peenix is using a Peegun
I love peenix
@@acenderdude i love pee
pee dimension next update real
I don't believe hypixel does have a licensing agreement since I remember a few changes they made in the past to abide with the eula (colosseum in skyblock was removed, I'm pretty sure it was because of eula but I may be wrong)
It was because people could buy booster cookies, which could be used to buy gear, which could be used to kill people on colosseum, which was being able to gain an advantage against other players by spending money, which was against Eula.
@@bokoblinlogic1619 yes it was because of that. thanks for verifying.
Kians totally the goat but I can't take those eyebrows and shorts seriously it looks like his mom is gonna walk into the recording and tell him to do his laundry.
Should have unloaded the dishwasher before recording
*The bigger they are, the harder they fall..*
Oh boy if Nintendo falls then it may cause the entire world to shake
What if caseoh falls
Banning anything in Minecraft literally removes the whole point of the game, creativity and doing whatever you want, you can tell Microsoft and Mojang do not understand their own videogame, no wonder people hate both of them, they are ruinning what once was a perfect videogame.
Mojang should just keep their fingers out of content they aren't responsible for. They shouldn't even have a "adult content" clause. Its not their business.
3:30 No, it’s because Hypixel makes Minecraft money and Microsoft/Mojamg want money
I wanna see a protest where every youtuber who plays Minecraft use a texture pack where the bow is replaced with a gun
>Be Mojang
>Censor Game and prohibit "dangerous" stuff so as to not get sued by activists and all that
>Gets Sued anyways
Bending the knee to activists is weak. “Wahhh guns bad guns bad”
Like Minecraft ever inspired someone to hurt anyone. These people need to cry me a river
@@addisonpage1 Neither did any violent video game that a lot of kids play, this might be crazy to say but people, even kids, can actually tell apart fiction from reality.
I know this is a crazy theory to a lot of people but it's true.
@@Z38_US Kids also aren't dumb, they know when a game is talking down to them. If you treat your audience like they are stupid, they don't want to be your audience anymore.
@@pocketsizedweeb Exactly, I'm assuming that the vast majority of people that are somwhere in their 20's or 30's now have played or watched violent games/shows when they were young, none of those people became violent IRL as a direct result of that.
It's just a bunch of bs to scare people, always has been.
I remember an old news story in my country (germany) after a mass shooting in the early 2000's where they claimed he trained his aim with the game Counter-Strike lmaoo
>Be Mojang
>think about banning "dangerous" stuff
>not make a decision (still allow "dangerous" stuff)
>dude doesn't make server
>dude rages and gets mad and instead of studying laws he makes a video
Since Mojang doesn't want firearms to be connected to their brand, they are seriously putting themselves in legal hot water. However, the trailer for the Minecraft movie shows a rifle.
That's hilarious
Where?
@@TekPlaysEpicGamesOfficial at 1:50ish of the trailer
I’m 100% sure that that isn’t a gun. It may look similar, but I don’t remember any part of the movie trailer where someone is shown firing that thing as a gun, nor being said that it was one. This is just the community spouting one of their dumb rants.
This is a bot stealing a top comment: "Mojang really is getting themselves into legal hot water over the fact that they don't want guns to be associated with their brand... and yet you can see a gun in the Minecraft movie trailer"
The fact that apparently Mojang wants to ban mods too eventually.
1:34 He looks like the smug guy from south park.
Nathan 💀
Who
Nathan for those asking
And no one talks about their fake strikes of video with minecraft dev versions...
Mojang trying *not* to create completely *unnecessary problems* for *NO REASON* at all challenge: *IMPOSSIBLE*
Lets ask the swedish government to sue notch
6:47 for a nice phoenix cam placement
Mojang, this must stop, the devs are ok, but rebel against the corpos which run you.
Mojang says “weapons” are non-compliant. So no more swords, bows, anything? Oh wait, it’s just to target people they don’t like.
Swords, axes, bows, crossbows, gunpowder, TNT.
Pot. Meet Kettle.
I love how gambling is prohibited on servers but is literally in the base game😂
I’m so happy you are making a video about this
Mojang: *wants to ban "adult" weapons*
Also Mojang: Has swords, a bow and crossbow in the game 😂 (all weapons are "adult" weapons)
The fact that Mojang could hide it for over three years...
1:14 This just might be the peak of realism in shooters
Thank you for spreading the word. We need a lot of people's attention on this, especially long time fans that are likely unaware of this.
I've been waiting for this since the whole account migration nonsense.
Minecraft: guns bad
Also Minecraft: *has a literal slavery update*
I think this comparison it used too much, even as a joke. There is no slavery in Minecraft, at least that isn't Mojang's intention with villager trading.
If slavery is what everyone used the update for... then its a slavery update official or not.
@Gandhi_Physique The villagers in the basement of my mansion think otherwise. 😂
More like Racist and Slavery update
Calling villager trading halls "slavery", even as a joke, is extremely disrespectful in my opinion. It's nothing in comparison to the unspeakable horrors of real slavery.
They won’t might get sued,
They will get sued.
this whole situation is like a dead end, neither microsoft nor the eu cares enough about this hypocrisy to put an end to all of the illegal stuff mojang is doing, which is pretty insane because minecraft is the most bestselling videogame
That and there is horror mods now that can be considered adult especially with that creepy deformed Steve
They should remove swords, bows, crossbows, and TNTs from Minecraft. Those things are dangerous!
Whole lot of "Rules for thee but not for me" going on with Mojang. Almost like what your allowed to get away with is proportional to how much foot traffic you bring to the game.
i hope he doesnt settle out of court for an undisclosed amount since he is broke and needs that money
Don't worry Mojang is gonna get that video taken down from TH-cam so no more people see it
Mojang needs to change their ways
Hope they get sued tbh.
I don’t like Mojang, they aren’t the same company as they were before Microsoft and I no longer support them.
Why are you holding a gun? Oh, right, to hold Majong accountable for their bs.
I miss days when developers were happy you just enjoyed playing their game...
Ok but more importantly Camman got sponsored by mojang
Wait what
How is that "more important"?
He got what?
is it wrong for me to think that minecraft as a sandbox game shouldnt tell you as a player how to have fun? it just seems so wrong that a game once aimed at giving people the choice/freedom to do anything they want has become more concerned about things like name, brand, and money instead.
welcome to corporate controlled minecraft i guess, "You can have fun, but we decide how!"
We need Mojang/Microsoft to get sued. This issue is as bad as the Skyblock issue
Yep😊
What's the Skyblock issue for us out of the loop?
Mojang needs to shutdown for good
@@Icecanon So who develops Minecraft then
“Adult weapons”
You telling me that swords and bows, used for killing animals and people for a way longer time than guns have even existed, are not adult weapons?
Just look up a video of someone piercing a piece of meat with a bow and arrow, or slicing it with a sword. Just like guns, these weapons too (like most weapons) are meant for killing, and in some cases have been more gruesome than one bullet hole.
Microsoft: dont worry we aren't going to change the game
Meanwhile:
Years ago it was: you buy a game you get the content. Do not use altered content for your own financial gain (as in madding and selling that as your own game).
Mojang now, treats Minecraft not only as just "one game" but all in all a platform/website. Constantly changing, constantly being worked over. So all in all you bought just the access.... idk i forgot what the point was i tried to make