Target: 300km/h in a FPV GT-F Falcon on the Stuart Highway, NT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2015
- As the curtain comes down on Aussie muscle cars, we endeavour to set a production-car record in perpetuity and break a mythical speed barrier.
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I wish to see Australia having it’s own autobahn
driver training and attitude isnt good enough unfortunately. they already struggle with 110
Apparently there was a highway or something like that with no speed limit in the NT
@@brycewarren2536yeah, this fcking highway in the video hahaha
That would be nice but I can't see that happening anytime soon lol.😅
@@borismcfinnigan3430 lol yeah, pretty sure it has a 130 limit now days
just remember . the GTHO had 4 gears , skinny crap tyres , no aero and you needed a huge set of balls to do over 100mph . but those cleveland v8's sounded like satan waking up in the morning after a big night on the grog only to find out he had no coffee or smokes .
👍👍👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣
So fucking true!!!
Welldone boys. Good effort. I am a Holden guy, but i can appriciate an austrlian built,car.
Tong Spoon well said mate.😀
Amen to ur comment.Lest we forget our muscle cars mate
I'm a Holden guy too, and I prefer the XY.. each to their own hey
Can't help but think it would've cracked 300km/h in lower ambient temperature.
Oh for sure
All day
Blimey, I was unnerved doing 204 km/h in my XR-6; difficult to imagine what 297 on a public road looks like. Having lived in Central Oz for about 12 years I take my hat off to JB for exposing himself to the possibility of a collision with a wild animal or wandering livestock.
The fear is real. I did about 230kmh on my VFR800 up there and that was mad enough. I did that in the middle of the day, late afternoon would be bloody suicide with the animals out.
Even tho im a holden guy... thats pretty good.. lucky there was no skippy, emu or camels came out onto the road
Skippy at dawn and dusk mostly. Rarely seen in the middle of the day out here. Camels and cattle you can see for miles. You would have to be an idiot to hit one in daylight. How do I know? I live in Alice.
@@0Zolrender0 internet so bad up there you replied a year ago and only just come through now.
Robert Chinnock-a holden wouldn't handle this speed thats why it was done in a ford.
True mate but oh I'm Holden an chevy an have a 64 mini Cooper's But to do those kmh makes you were are we going how fast are we gunna HIT think the chopper got Reid of the ANIMALS CHEERS MATE
That supercharger whine!!!
back in the day (im 48 now) i had a xd 351 with 302 heads and mildly worked, race suspension and high speed tyres ran 13.1 at ravenswood raceway and i got it up too 244kph with 5ppl in the car. i was racing a mate on a motor bike to tell me the speed i was doing b4 i reached my top speed. now i look back on it..i was a silly boy
Haha, that's crazy
Every time I think of selling my 2014 xr6 Turbo I watch video like this and decide to keep. I miss Aussie built Falcons and Commodores 🇦🇺
same with my 2007 XR8. with the way the world is going.... yes hang on to them.
The Zombie Squad bf2 xr8 great car 👌🏽
joel bow been tempted to sell and get a mustang couple of times. Still can’t do it 😅👍🏽
@@homebrew332 did you sell it? Price of performance falcon have shot up massively
@@COLDoCLINCHER37 I did sell it for what I thought was a good price 2 years ago, which is about 15k short of what it’s worth now. 🤦🏽♂️😂
Positive is I got a corona special, a mustang with 6000km out of Melbourne when it was all locked down for very cheap. In hindsight I would have kept the falcon if I had shed space. But probably would have sold it around now for the coin.
I miss it especially for comfort, the mustang is faster and sounds better.
297 is impressive. With a bit more attention to the aero of the car 300 would be achieved. A friend had a soarer v8 on NT roads and he backed off when the car got "twitchy" at 230. Glad someone like bowe was at the wheel this time.
Had my bmw e39 530i m sport at 245 and it started getting a bit bouncy with the soft suspension. Be surprised how many cars can reach 250 these days.
The sound of the GT coming down the road is like nothing else
Bleak Hollow......like nothing else except for maybe an AMG Mercedes, Audi 5.2, BMW Msport, Volvo S60 Polestar.....😂
@@warrenlp8536 Haha... Oh wait you're serious. Euro shit is muffled beyond belief, it sounds like it's misfiring
@@Sh3rk69 Yet "euro shit" makes more horsepower per litre, gets better economy and makes less pollution.
Tell me any of the AMG cars are muffled BTW.....even the A45 AMG sounds better than most US V8's
@@warrenlp8536 why would I give a flying fuck about hp/L, economy or emissions if I'm talking about how it sounds. No, Merc V8s do not sound better than a Chevy V8. You're a tosser
@@warrenlp8536 I'm not watching this to talk about European cars which depreciate like crazy and cost a fortune to buy and fix..I'm watching because this is one of the last Australian built muscle cars and it 's magnificent.And just for the record the Supercharged Coyote is a world class engine.
Although 297 is not 300 that is really impressive and im reading all these comments saying " a hsv could have done that easy" well it hasn't been proven yet so nobody can say its going to do it because there is no proof yet. In my personal opinion ford vs holden nothing more Australian than that and the car produce near the same hp and about the same speed. Im a ford man but i respect both makes and its sad to see the Aussie icons go 😔
+cmealing1 On a 35 degree day with a headwind? 297 sustained is very good Aerodynamics come into play.
If you've been anywhere near 240kmph its starts getting very um...require
your concerntration as if you hit something here...there was some caution in his driving. This is a stock car not with the boost wound up even more...a intercooler would have made it go well past 210mph. Somebody may have done it overseas.
Would be happy on a autobahn. I think a few were sold there. If a completely unaerodynamic much heavier Bentley can hit 206mph this car is underrated.
Considering the stock car is speed limited to 250kmph and still running the standard tailshaft- their is allot of room for improvement. Hopefully the FG-X
XR8 will get its chance to beat it.... im sure some HSV can do that to. But we
all cannot get our triple ton specials and go up to see how fast they go...and have all the telemetry to record it too.
cmealing1 they did a speed run hsv maloo got the record for fastest Ute and it only broke 270
I'm a ford man don't like holden there are shit I have had to much bad experience with holden I have owne about 3 or 4 to mini far as I'm concerned my first car was a eb Falcon now I own 2006 BF Mark 2 XR6 I would never turn back ford For life!!!!
Done 287 in my lancer so....
@@farvatron any work done
I met John Bowe when I lived there in 1978. He was one of the best then. He's one of the greats now.
Holy moly Rob Herrod is like Christian Von Koeniggsegg's Australian uncle.
Well,done John Bowe. Not easy to do in a mass produced road car. Thanks for the video.
GT-F wasn’t mass produced. Only 550 were ever made. Mass produce is like 5000+
'The roads aren't really designed for 300kph speeds'
Autobahn: Hold my beer...
should have taken the spare tyre out of the boot :D
😂😂😂
Speed limits are there for a reason !!! So the states can collect revenue from ( SPEEDING).
Exactly, if the speed limits are so important they would just build all cars to go no more than 110ks an hour
Half a billion dollars a year for each of the Eastern states.. And they sure as hell aren't spending it on road safety initiatives.
It's one of the most successful scams ever run. Put the fines up, but make sure they don't use up all their points, so you can get repeat business. Reduce the tolerance from 10% to 2% so you can catch people doing 63 in a 60 zone. Then put a bunch of hidden cameras around so people don't even know they got a ticket until it shows up in the mail. And anytime anyone says anything about it, you play the safety card. Think of the children!!i! And all the while our shitty roads and death tolls remain about the same.
After I have a few beers I can get my 200 series up to 225 kph along the Old Geelong Road, bugger the laws man there for fools.
In case high speed is necessary, like if y don’t have a phone and can’t call the ambo and you/your kid gets bitten by venomous snake
Also it’s the car manufacturers who build the cars like that
My first car was a 1990 ford laser that made funny noises and rattled once you start getting over 105 kph. Cant help but wonder if I had that open road how fast it could have gone before the wheels fell off.
I do things out of spite yeah i wonder how my xk 144ci would have done up there with its speed limiter removed
I reckon you would of got about 140 before things start to break
Hilarious! They don't build 'em like that anymore, eh? :)
106 kmh
106...
Why did we stop building these beautiful cars? just insane!
Because Tony Abbott refused to tip any more money into our vehicle manufacturing.
Australian Auto manufacturing was heavily subsidized by the Commonwealth Government.
Yeh i know the reasons. Dont even get me started. Five years have passed, and im still bitter!
No one bought them. Suv's.
@@mvnorsel6354 Idiots prefer to buy Hyundais because of 7 year warranty!
Thanks for posting vid mate awesome.
Should do this in the GTSR W1
Maybe the two XC Cobras that passed us on the Barkly Hwy up near Mt. Isa in the late seventies were Ford test cars heading for the NT border. Hmm, have always wondered about those two white hardtops with the big blue stipes. They were a sight to behold while driving to Mt.Isa in a bog stock XB station wagon with no air-con. :)
Love the shout out to DJ - all class, love this video.
There you go build no 017/ 500 ,so if anyone has that car, like to see the dyno figures to prove it is totally stock car other than the rev limiter removed, or stopped so that engine will rev higer say 7,000 RPM max which is really about 1,000 RPM more than stock ?
in the late 80s, early 90s the N.T had no open road speed limits. We often did Katherine to Darwin (320km) in 2 hours, quite safely. The only worry was the ocasional steer that may wander onto the road and the odd road train doing "only" 120kmh
In 1999 a couple of workmates and I drove a Toyota Landcruiser Troopy to Darwin and back from Mt. Isa. When we weren't going through townships we sat on a dollar seventy no problem on the straight bits of the Barkly Highway from Tablelands to Waramungu, and then same speeds north along the Stuart Highway to Darwin.
I have never been to that area, though I have been told If I did, expect to see camels.
The NT has never had " no open road speed limits", especially late 80's early 90's. If so I would never have been booked for speeding, which I was. Nice story, full of shit though.
That area did have no speed limit until a fatal crash during a Gumball Rally involving a Lamborghini decades ago.
Tell that to the victorian government... Nothing like doing 80 in a well lit, well paved 4 lane highway with a solid barrier between both directions and exterior walls. Unbelievable.
it would have been even cooler if the GT-F had done a straight up drag against the XY GT-HO, father vs son so to speak
My best time was 11.55 Alice to Darwin in a 80 series including fuel stops and was lucky enough to go with the head engineer when they were proving the new Vette .Good times!
I'm sure the reason the GT-HO couldn't do the same as the FPV has nothing to do with power. At anything above 200, aerodynamics play an enormous roll, and the '71 HO is as aerodynamic as a brick wall on wheels. Plus, a 4 speed transmission is it's own limiter unless you have a tall highway diff gear, but even then...
5.19 what would a modified 351 cleveland do? my one i got up to 250 kph yet had loads more accelerator left, 250 kph on the road i was on was too scary to go any faster it wasnt a long strait road it had ups and downs and bumps and roads joining onto it
what cog and how much was she turning to do 297? standard xr6 6speed manual std 3.45 was @6000 rpm (limiter) 1st gear 65 2nd 105 3rd 155 4th 205 (reached speed limiter before rev limit i think it was like 5700-5800 on speed limit) 5th cant remember and 6th was 3750 rpm @205 cruise control, lower diff gear would liven it up, but its ratio is perfect if you have to pick through traffic as you just hold limiter 2nd for a couple of minutes just left foot brake if you have to h
Sounds mint
I'm confused, the XR6 Turbo could do 300+ KPH after removing the limiter. Am I wrong?
LOL No. No it couldnt. I am a race engineer and have actually looked after one of these Turbo Falcons, that had the limiter removed as well as numerous other tweaks to prepare it for circuit racing competition. And i can tell you that at Bathurst in 2014 or 2015, its fastest trap speed all week was 243km/h. This was a 310kw FPV by the way not a basic 245KW XR6.
I'd think it would do it. I've got a fg gs 2009 boss 302. it speed cuts at 248, pretty well all stock,exhaust,growler intake, n ultralow suspension. it still had more in it but speed cut
@@borismcfinnigan3430 210km/h bashing the limiter in my FG XR6. 36+ km/h isn't much difference + FPV and the turbo 🤔
For a stock FG XR6 she goes pretty smooth at 200+ on NZ highway
I'm a Ford man all through my body I think that's dam impressive to say the least absolutely awesome go fpv it's been my dream to own one I love the bf gt gtps I wanna but one of those hopefully soon it would make me a happy man
Nice work. I did the same stretch on my Honda VFR800 in 2015 and hit about 230. And it's only an 800CC bike and had cases and a top box on it at the time (got the video on my channel). But I'd love to see what a car going past at 300 would look like. I think they've put a limit on that highway now though so sadly this sort of stuff will never happen again.
It will….. just not legally. 😉
Good on ya rob and team
I reckon a Sprint 6 would beat the GT-F and the XR8 Sprint if ud remove the limiter. Something about the Barra that’s just a tiny bit better then the Miami.
Not a chance
No limiter on my 2013 GT500. I've had mine to 320 km/h +/- on the autobahn on a 2-3 occasions. There's more there but I think about a blown tire etc! I proved it could and that's good enough for me. I normally keep her at between 160 and 220 km/h when I can and she's a happy camper. I still get uneasy when I pass the police.
I hit an emu at 160 km/h many years ago, lucky man at 300 km/h
didnt a stock vz monaro crack 302 on nullabor plain?
The ba xr6 turbo slightly modified to 340 kw achieved 307kmh back in 2004 😂
LOL No
Read that article. Sounded like it struggled to stay in a straight line though😮
In 91 I got 220kmh out of my 6cyl S Pak...Fully loaded....
Would love to see them try this again with the new XR8 Sprint.
+Higgo that would be super cool.. the last ever V8 Falcon hits 300kph !
its electronically limited
Yes I know, but they could disable that for the test. Like they did with this one.
Higgo and apparently making more power than the GT-F at the wheels too !
I wish they could that. It would be interesting! without the limiter of course! Or even a comparison between the FPV GTF and Ford Falcon FGX XR8 SPRINT which one would be the best?!
Speeds like that is insane ! That said I'm sure that car could hit 300km if the conditions were a bit better. I would never do anything like lol.
Should be proud of both Holden and Ford
Jb you've done it again
Hit 240 in our FPV and nearly shat myself.The car is a beast.
An intercooler on the GT would have seen 300. I wonder if they let it cool out before the run as if they were mucking around before hand getting ready it would of had heat soak at those ambient temps. I reckon it can be done without an intercooler in the right conditions.
Buddy It’s got air hitting it at 297kmh it’s not heat soaked
@@nocomment5847 do you own one?.. I do. In the NT heat, simply prepping doing a few runs and getting ready it would have heat soak. Once it’s got it no amount of speed really makes a difference at high ambient temps. A short burst at 200kph + would have zero effect on AIT’s. I’ve watched mine driving it in many conditions to form this opinion.
My partner owned a Holden Avalanche and he done Darwin to Perth in 32hrs in 2016, engine was 6.0litre, fully worked at 400kw. Wouldn't u think that would be a driving record for that distance
I wonder what the turbo sprint would do.
Question what's the fastest Holden V8 .
Love the Ford & that's a cracking effort 👌 by a Gem of a bloke 👏 & all out racer JB .
I know it's not hard to hit 200 kms but depends where you live in Australia where I live I'm limited to where I can do it
Thing sounds incredible.
Isn't the top-model Commodore faster?
To see the speedo in the cab sit at 242 for a second hits me in the feelings, i hit that number and decided that is a good enough number
It was in my f6 ute, also all happened in mexico
It's a shame the sound editors put incorrect sound for top speed.
Cool day no wind and i think they would have cracked it well done
Wow, that highway is really empty..
Is it like that everytime?
Disconnected the speedo in my XYGT and filled the 36 gal tank and drove from Brisbane to Townsville.filling the 36 tank took awhile did it in about 11 hrs.. sat the tacho on 3k ..worst part doing 80 behind a car ready to overtake when it pulled out and right in front of me was some drunk doing about 20kph..lucky there was no one coming the other way..hit a patch of water and shifted the 2 lukies back and ended up with a great note..oo to be young again..
Sad that stock these Engines are so damn underpowered. Chuck a K&N Filter, bigger Cat-back system & tune and you could get way past 300km/h and 100WHP gain
Joys of meeting emission standards.
That car is over 400kw. If that's underpowered in your eyes then I'd love to see the top fuel dragster that you daily drive mate
0:57 thought those were L plates for a second
297km/h with a fuel flow of 20 litres a minute! 😀
what can the G6ET do though
Well the GTF is 16KW quicker don’t properly not as not 297KPH
4:56 I had my modified 351 Cleveland up to 250 kph and I had loads more pedal but it was too scary , humps and bumps in the road and adjoining side roads. 250 kph is fast as fuck,
You had the road closed etc
Should have ran the XY also
Love this When will you try again JB & RH in a Mustang
I done Perth to Karratha in 11 hours there and 11.5 back sitting on 295 kms/ph it wouldn't go any faster. We stopped at Geraldton got maccas for breakfast and at Nanutarra to refuel with BP ultimate out of 3 20 litre jerry cans. The cruise control still worked too but at 290 though. That was back in 2007 in a FPV Super Pursuit octane orange with all the fruit. It was brand new and stock with 2500kms on the clock. Number 51. I bought it from Ford in Morley.
I done Darwin to Perth in 32hours in 2016 in my Holden Avalanche, 6.0litre, fully worked, 400kw
Mate, no way your boat anchor 5.4 did anything like 295. I have owned a stock, then tuned, blown fg gt and also bf pursuit, and they are worlds apart.
Not to mention, your "stock" super pursuit is speed limited to 235kmh, 10km less than the sedans due to the longer tailshaft.
Been 40kph off that speed in an old beat up stock r31, but would've been nowhere near as safe feeling inside I'll bet lol.. glad I'm a falcon guy 👍
I done 240km in a 1990 RS Legacy Sedan. Felt surprisingly safe for an old car
LOL the limiter is set at 255 km's because that's so practical to begin with, I mean whats the point of it if it's set that high anyway?
I have to say though 225 km's from the original GTHO is pretty damned impressive
I wonder what the fuel consumption was....not much point in going 200+Ks, if you can barely make it to the next town..
Might be fun for an hour or so though!🤗
Huh? Why was 297 the top? Did he back off through unsafe conditions; engine weakness; or was that max revs in top gear with no more gains against the air?
The top was 297 because that is as fast as it would go. 🙄🙄
It wasn't in top gear, since shifting up to 6th would have produced less wheel HP and would not gone as fast. Yeah, with an aftermarket diff swap (lower ratio) and using 6th gear, it might have gone faster... however the whole point was to see how fast a stock-standard off-the-dealer-floor car would go.
I have a 1999 AU Series I ex-police unmarked pursuit sedan, no engine limiter, no rev limiter (included by the factory for police use), and about 280,000K on it, it is a 302 and it goes to 240 km/h which is as far as the speedo goes up to. It's off the road now getting restored and a new rocket motor up front, be good to see what she does after breaking it in and doing some runs and dyno pulls/tuning.
The speedo is doing 240. The car isnt.
@@borismcfinnigan3430Police calibrate the speedos
G'day..Great video...Just curious...How would have a FPV F6 Turbo go in the same conditions.?..I suppose the extra overall capacity of the supercharged V8 would tell a tale..Interesting thought though..Cheers Rod
+Rodney McGiveron regardless of manual or auto, the F6 will redline around 285kph at the top of 5th gear so I would say that would be it's theoretical top speed... it would need more road to reach that speed though as it's 90hp down on the GT-F
+Rodney McGiveron The 6 speed manual has a top speed of 326KPH with 245 45 18's on it.
That's what car speed calculator reckons anyways with mine. I've been no where near those speeds. Even with 300rwkw, I doubt I reach it. To be honest I'm surprised the GT-F made it with only 30 more RWKW than mine.
Falcon six turbo doesn't have the horsepower and torque. The GTF has 50 more kws.
and probably kg
Sorry Just Hold-in Together Aficionados !!!!! but the Proofs in the SPEED + Its a Falcon, & it was real because it was in colour too.
Makes me wonder how fast my fgx xr8 goes wound out
Ahh I don't understand I've got the 50th anniversary falcon fg xr6 turbo manual I live on new Zealand and I've done 277kmh completely stock car
thats is one tuff fast fpv 300 kph well done ford what a shame there will be no more where would the falcon been in ten years time
Electric?
3:14 This road didn't have a speed limit back then, so why did the cops have to make a big deal out of it?
The GTS may have a 6.2 sc engine over the GTF and its 5.0 sc engine.......but as is widely known....the GTF puts a fair chunk more power to the road over the GTS. At those speeds.....I doubt it having less would get it even close to the GTF top speed.
Knew a guy who had a FTP 400Kw said its only 400Kw between shifts . . but still at the time i had a 6.0 thunder and i did not come close sweet cars they are.
The gts would do 300 no problem at all it has a lot more torque 740nm compared to the fords 650 in overboost and only 570 without overboost also the hsv has better suspension 👍
I would like to see the same test done with a Commodore. Very interesting to see the results.
There no street commodore that can touch this. Would love to see the new HSV GTS do this with the GTF. The GTF has 351KW however Ford have said that this a conservative figure and has been recorded as having close to 400KW.
Yes there were plenty faster than that the hsv that I have now would pass 300 very easily 😀
All this fighting between Holden and Ford is a laugh. There are shit Holdens and there are shit Fords as much as there are good Fords and good Holdens.
I LOOOOOVE my 07 Upgrade BF MK2 XR8 (100% stock) & I loved my 02 VX SS S2 (was only a year old when I got her & 100% stock but got modified NA 286rwkw back 10 - 15yrs ago built diff and trans etc). I loved my HZ & my HJ. I loved my dad's EF Fairmont as a teen (for the dollar i still think this is one of the nicest most comfortable and surprisingly quick cars I've driven even compared to newer stuff great daily when new). I loved my brothers LX Torana & the Mrs imo VN group A SS. I love my 07 Upgrade BF MK2 Fairmont Ghia.
Different strokes for different folks I guess
But hang on - you can do this again right? NT speed laws are unrestricted again right?
pity they didn't see a genuine 300km/hr, surely the driver could have pulled another 3km/hr. Still a great effort from a brilliant car.
+Orion a cold still winters night would be much faster than '35 degrees and windy'. Its a aerodynamic game
after 240 after the wind starts pulling your car around....it steady at that speed which is good for
those with inter coolers.... unoficial GTHOs. The overboost will not be running at 100% to protect
the motor at high temps thus its not as angry as it could be... it would have done 205+ with no headwind
im sure. Not to say others have done it already- unoficially. Considering how non aerodynamic the boxy
bentley front is getting to 206mph the nose of the Falcon is much more lower... as is based on the V8
supercar shape...
impressed
Good stuff
Looks like Bowe is in 5th gear which means that 5.0 is spinning at nearly 6500rpm and well beyond peak power.
Shifting to 6th and with enough road, we would most likely have seen 300kph !
aircon was probably on too
351
Nah.. too much wind resistants..with a tailwind yeah maybe
Are you smoking dog shit?
John Bowe is a very good race car driver. I reckon whatever he did was to get the best out of it.
Also my opinion is the the ratio change from 5th to 6th would have been too much, ie engine might have produced a bit more power but the ratio change means less will be transmitted to the wheels
I’m pretty sure everyone who are rev heads. Have tested their car out to the maximum speed as I have and every young bloke has. You didn’t need John bowl
Hear that whistle beautiful
That car would crack 300 on a real test strip.
Apparently the HSVs are unstable at high speed, given their shape that doesn't seem too far fetched.
If not why hasn't a top speed run been done?
Travis Clifford very got a mate that’s a cop he says the commodores are unstable on high speeds
But they still make HSV. Manufactures don't stop building good cars.
@@sv4851 HSV build Camaros, Colorados and Silverados now. The old Commodore is gone and no-one wants the new one, especially HSV.
For a start HSV does NOT build " Camaros, Colorados and Silverados now." GM USA does, all HSV is doing is converting them to RHD. But the fact still remains that any car manufacture does not stop building cars that the public want and the Falcon stopped simply because it was a pile of shit and the Commodore is only half a point better. Aussie design and manufacturing went along fine with other world makers until around the early to middle 80's when the rest of the world took off in regards to build quality and design but Aussie just continued to build buckets of poo. Take the cost of what was then a new Falcon or Commodore and look at the Euro, Japanese and USA cars and you will get twice the car for the same money. How would I know? A GM dealer for over 20 years.
@@sv4851 Well they did. When Ford axed the V8 Falcon people assumed it was because the market for high powered V8s was dead. Ford introduced the Mustang as a niche car, expecting to sell 1000 a year. They ended up selling more than that in a month and ten times more than that in a year. Even staunch Holden people ordered the Mustang because the "cheap" V8 market was empty after the Commodore bowed out.
By your own admission HSV don't "build" anything, at this point they're a glorified importer. The Camaro is set to have a retail price of nearly $100,000 for what is essentially a right-hand drive SS with pretty much even or lower specs than the current Mustang GT. Yet, orders are still funneling in for them. The newer, smaller Commodore (which is what the public wanted, apparently) has been a sales bomb, as has the new Equinox SUV. Of the 990 Commodores sold in March, 474 of them were VFIIs, rather than the ZB.
I reckon 300 plus would have been reached in May to July.
Impressive
I am a Holden man, and I am impressed with that! 297 in any ones books is bloody fast. Still loved the GTHO though! Fords do make excellent engines. The only thing I will ask, if the engine is a 5 ltr, why does it have 351 on the cover? In my world, 351 is 5.8 ltr's. So not sure on that. Wish they would do that test with a SS or a HSV, just to see, it would be interesting.
The 351 is reference to the 351kw it puts out on low boost
Yes that is right the 351 does stand for 351kw which happened to be a nod to the great 351 Cleveland V8 motor and with the GT-F the F is for final GT.
I was at Lakeside Raceway last Sunday and had the privilege to go for a ride in a FGII FPV GT-R Spec 335kw, and I was very surprised as to how quick it was off the mark and how well it cornered considering that the rear tyres were not in the best condition. I did have a smile on my face for hours after…..lol
I have only ever owned Ford or Holden over the past 50 years of holding a drivers license.
Australian built cars are still the best in my books, hands down
NO Way that car is total stock, i know that took the rev limiter off, but think about it, still requires better Exhaust system, head work cam and tuning, then you have that extra HP from stock, which if i am wrong then put the car on a dyno so we can see what its making at the wheels ?
I guess it's close to stock for a FPV GT rocketship. :)
Well considering that the gtf is rated at 351 kw thats around what you think the dyno figures would be
Which one is more powerful GT GSS or GTF ?
I just cri about how that was my childhood, now gone forever. RIP aussie muscle.
Anyone else waiting for a roo to jump out in front of him XD
These HSV fan boys are all the same. Until a HSV GTS is recorded beating that top speed officially shut the fuck up!!!!!!.Speculation is just bullshit,it should, it could is all crap until it actually does it then I will happily acknowledge it.Just try and appreciate the fact that an Aussie built car can achieve this and enjoy it.
***** Your right mate both makes have their faults. I am a Ford man and i'm not bagging the GTS its just no official top speed has been recorded, til then the GT-F is quicker. We all should be proud of what this country can produce from both Ford and GMH as they wont be around for much longer.
Your 100% right good to hear from someone level headed. Sadly we are all witnessing the end of an era in this country which a lot of people don't seem to comprehend so yeah just sit back and enjoy the ride.
clubbin 09 I agree with the comment on the HSV engines being fully imported. I own a 2013 GT 335 and that engine is hand built here with the engine builders stamp on it.The Falcon has way more Australian content than a Commodore but most people perceive otherwise unfortunately. My best mate owns VF HSV R8 which is a good car in all respects also but my original point was until an official top speed run in a GTS is done the GT-F is king. If the GTS can OFFICIALY better that speed I will happily acknowledge it.
Makes you wonder though what we will discussing in a few years time when they are both gone????
***** It would be a lot closer if both were auto's I reckon.Like I said im not bagging the GTS but it just seems that anything that has a HSV badge automatically makes it better than anything else. And yes the current falcon interior is not its strongest point that's why i'm keeping my 2013 model. as its basically the same.
clubbin 09 Yeah mate shame Ford never marketed the Falcon in that way its a pity.Instead most people believe in that football , meat pies and Holden cars crap unfortunately.
lower it 2 inches and til do it. Would help if the air wasn't soo hot too...
So we set a goal and we DIDNT GET IT. What a cop out
Wait.... You said the target was 300, he only got 297!
pbsmick Yes.. the target was 300.. it topped out at 297