In the DC Universe, the Justice League have never actually beaten Darkseid. Not really. They disrupt his plans so that he calls off his armies and has to make strategic retreats; but that's all they can do. Darkseid doesn't mind temporarily retreating either because it's not like he's going anywhere. He's an ancient, immortal god-- he can wait. Conquering Earth today or a thousand years from now after the heroes are all dead, it doesn't matter to him. Time is nothing to an entity such as Darkseid. He's gonna still be here regardless. Also, you need to keep in mind that the Justice League's job isn't to defeat Darkseid in a fistfight. No, their job is to protect Earth. You don't always have to beat up Darkseid in order to do that. All you have to do is get him off the Earth. Mostly though, you need to be aware of how Darkseid prefers to operate. He'd rather fight you with his brains than his muscles. He prefers to outmaneuver & manipulate you. He takes enjoyment in the arts of war-- the planning, the deceptions, the manipulations --not the mundane act of combat itself. He spent the first 10,000 years of his reign overpowering civilizations with might and barbarism, but grew bored after realizing no one would ever be able to stop him through sheer force alone now that he's mastered the Omega Effect. With Darkseid now, it's all about the long range chess game. This is how the Justice League have always thwarted Darkseid's ambitions, not by overpowering him. The only beings in the universe who can actually match or defeat Darkseid in battle are his brother Highfather (the ruler of the New Gods' twin paradise planet New Genesis*), and his own son, Orion, who's prophecied to finally slay his father in divine battle someday. In other words, it takes a New God to defeat a New God. *The entire New Gods saga is a Biblical allegory for the comic book medium. Apokolips represents Hell; New Genesis represents Heaven. Highfather is the symbolic stand-in for the Judeo-Christian Jehova (God); while Darkseid symbolizes the equivalent of Satan.
@John Stern I'd be willing to bet instead that Darkseid saw it coming and allowed Constantine an escape door-- if he could find it. After all, Constantine does nothing but sow deception everywhere he roams also, which would only further Darkseid's goals of a divided Justice League.
Agreed And I don't think thanos could have snapped darkseid's avatt Ar out of existence. Because it seems to me like matter manipulation. And darkseid can manipulate matter too and he can manipulate souls too. Also I believe superman can match darkseid as well because he has battled him many times already and he has fought orion as well and he has a numerous amount of impressive feats.
@@sadlobster1 superman did make a wish to miracle machine where which brainiac 5 or someone else created. It is considered the most powerful object in dc And only superman was trusted with the miracle machine. Superman analysed it and since he has photographic memory he create it and it allows you to make only one wish. And nobody knows what superman wished for even the monitors didn't. But superman said he wished for happy ending. And superman shattered the essence of true darkseid by singing by vibrations. Because of miracle machine.
They stated in intro that Superman defeated Darkseid (not an avatar) killing him by singing using String Theory which is a weakness for Darkseid. Interesting I wonder how Mr. Mxzzlplzt (however you spell it) powers line up with Darkseids as Mr. basically is a walking infinity gauntlet.
I'm not a Marvel Head or DC Head, I love comic characters in general. I already knew Darkseid was stronger than Thanos and that he should win. My only argument was if they keep Thanos in the same universe to fight Darkseid, while using the Infinity Gauntlet, than he would win. The only thing I didn't know about Darkseid was that he has his own domain and the avatars he uses in other dimensions and universes. But hopefully you enjoyed this reaction and more content coming soon. #ALL2HIM
COKE29 Darksied’s True form and his powers are multiversal. The Infinity Gauntlet isn’t a multiversal level item. Basically anything the IG can do Darkseid himself can do better.
@@coketwentynine Darseid's real form or real self always rests in the 4th world universe(the only universe which can handle his presence) as, if darkseid's true self enters any other planes of existence(aka lets say the marvel multiverse) his presence itself will erase the multiverse from existence!!!......plus darkseid's own power was far greater than that of the infinity gauntlet's power and add to that darkseid's anti-life equation, it was always always an overkill/massacare and an unfair fight between darkseid and thanos, but it was heavily requested as many people thought that thanos could one shot darkseid or something along those lines(without even knowing darkseid's true powers).
EtheriousKami Starlin wanted to copy the new god Metron, but the guys in marvel said to him: "if you want to do a rip off, do it with one of the good ones". So, then he copyed Darkseid to create Thanos, but he keeped the chair of Metron... NOW, after just a few issues of Thanos's debut, the personalitys and backstory of the characters became complitly different to each others... so while Thanos started as a rip-off, now is it's own character and more of a counterpart to Darkseid than anything else
Man.. I’ve been watching several reaction videos to this same fight.. and basically. It’s a two way street. There are those who know about the mighty Darkseid and know that he uses avatars and can basically destroy everything just by walking through the front door. And then there are the ones who overestimate the infinity gauntlet, their reactions change before the fight even starts. It’s hilarious really.. once they hear he rest in a different plane of existence, they say. “Welp thanos is dead”.
If he did, it wouldn't work on Thanos unless the gauntlet was taken off. When he brought Thanos to the Fourth World he could have used it on him then, but even if he did have it I don't think he would have used it. Thanos most likely angered him enough by that point that he wanted to end him.
What most people dont realize is Darkseid alone would mop the floor with all of celestials probably at the same time. Darkseid has defeated the Greek Pantheon twice and even fought Zeus while he himself was depowered. Darkseid fought the Anti-monitor while the Anti-Monitor possessed the ALE to a stalemate and Anti-Monitor is a multiverse level being without the Anti-life equation. Technically Darkseid has beaten The Source/Presence/God when he was amped. This fight between Thanos and Darkseid is not close.
@@SeraphSeph Soulfire Darkseid. It was a bit iffy. Short version Darkseid figured out what the presence plan for souls were in the DC universe and decided to beat him to the punch and amped himself to be almost on par with the source.
One thing I have to disagree with ScrewAttack on - the Gauntlet would not allow Thanos to completely resist the Anti-Life Equation. It's possible that it might prevent it from *completely* turning Thanos into a slave to Darkseid, but it wouldn't leave him unscathed.
Also, I agree that it bothers me that Darkseid is constantly being beaten by people who SHOULD NOT be able to beat him. It's a bit silly. Having said that, I think the general idea is that they're beating Darkseid's avatar, not True Darkseid. Also, Thanos needs the Gauntlet to be a genuine crossover-level threat. Without it, he's high-tier at best. Best two out of three? The End Thanos with the Heart of the Universe vs. Soulfire Darkseid. Darkseid still wins. That Thanos beat the Living Tribunal, a servant of Marvel's god, The One Above All. Soulfire Darkseid beat The Source, which is DC's version of god. Darkseid's simply too strong.
He didn't have the anti life equation in the fight. And Darkseid has never really been beaten EVER. He's only been delayed or his avatar damaged or His plans disrupted or the Earth protected by New Genesis.
RabidDogma funny enough a person who has defeated true darksied is doomdays, this was confirm by the writer when asked whether the darksied he defeated was a avatar or the real deal
The Deadpool scene at the end is pretty dark. Like somehow that is the scariest shit that happened. All that strength just disappears and he's completely helpless forever.
Beating people into submission isn't Darkseid's style, he prefers to corrupt and manipulate more than anything and usually lots of people die whenever he shows up.He never loses to the Justice League in terms of raw strength either, the league just does whatever they can until the new gods get to earth who're the ones that keep him in check.
Had to pin this because everyone thinks I don't know col... "I'm not a Marvel Head or DC Head, I love comic characters in general. I already knew Darkseid was stronger than Thanos and that he should win. My only argument was if they keep Thanos in the same universe to fight Darkseid, while using the Infinity Gauntlet, than he would win (IF they keep the fight within the same universe, otherwise the Infinity Gauntlet won't work). The only thing I didn't know about Darkseid was that he has his own domain and the avatars he uses in other dimensions and universes. But hopefully you enjoyed this reaction and more content coming soon." #ALL2HIM
Ok I watched a debunking of the death battle they nerfed Thanos and darksied a lot, they said Thanos is around 11D without the stones or cosmic cube and also said darksied would destroy him higher durability actually has irrelevant speed he's stronger than him he has the omega beams which can disintegrate him as already stated amungst other things they nerfed Thanos's durability which is true saying he's at max star level durability wise which he has shown many times to be above universal durability wise but darksied can just destroy reality and stuff like that, he has also beat up to someone who almost killed the presence DC's equivalent to God
And yet there is still Darkseid's father (Yuga Khan) when he shows up Darkseid looks for a place to hide. The Justice League has technically never ever beaten Darkseid by the way. They can only hinder him so much and that's all.
@@Freeyourdollar Mxyzptlk is FAR above the IG. He's a 5th Dimensional being. A simple thought can do anything in our dimension and attacks would do absolutely nothing to him.
@@Vazcular One of the stones controls reality so has exactly the same effect. Just force him to say his name backwards and he is toast. He also gets in trouble from his people for screwing around too much with Prime Universe.
@@Vazcular I was assuming Mr. M would be taking on Thanos in the Marvel Universe. Regardless Mr. M would have zero interest in fighting Thanos he might prank him goof off a little and leave.
Darkseid is a New God which is a race. Other New Gods on New Genesis can scrap with him so there is parity. Superman can hang and killed Darkseid using String theory. Lex Luthor resurrected him which is why he is still running around lol.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Broken, as in _unfair_ and just generally overpowered. Of course Thanos lost, dude. Pay closer attention before assuming somebody's a Marvel fanboy.
I agree darkseid would win if he used his fourth demension powers but thanos would have to willingly go there. When have u seen thanos walk into a trap? Literally he folowed darkseid into the fourth demension. Look at the video. And also thanos is a has mastered the infinity gauntlet meaning he knows how to use all of the gems. He only used two of them in this scenario. Plus if superman could stop fourth demension darkseid just by singing than clearly he is not all powerful in that demension.
Darkseid could throw him in the portal. The reason why Thanos walked in the portal was because he he didn't know it would take him to another dimension. Darkseid could have easily opened the portal throw Thanos in and close it.
Jinxy Poptart that’s my point. Thanos never walks into anything he is not sure of. If he ever went with an enemies plan he would use one of his doppelgänger’s why the real thanos sits back and find out what’s really going on
Chucky 84 even so, darksied wouldn’t need to trick thanos as infinity gauntlet isn’t really a threat to him as he is above the concept of reality, not to mention he could walk in and bye bye multiverse Also Superman is quite a op guy since dc has confirm Superman is actual embodiment of the “Superman trope” he as as powerful as he need to be for the story if his foe is stronger, he get stronger to match up, vise versa qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2772e59abdb32839fcac2b6806656137-c
Which also dc tends is more powerful then marvel due to it multiverse structure and making literal action, ideas and personification into characters and even to the point that dc multiverse is just one of many multiverse out there in the void suggest even the marvel universe exist (heck even one the endless made a cameo in a marvel comic)
Thanos: WHO ARE YOU??? WHO ARE YOU???
Darkseid: Not Batman.
When Thanos screamed that, I couldn't help but think he sounded...a bit like Vegeta
28dayslater559 - ...I am Entropy, I am Death, I am...DARKSEID!!
In the DC Universe, the Justice League have never actually beaten Darkseid. Not really. They disrupt his plans so that he calls off his armies and has to make strategic retreats; but that's all they can do. Darkseid doesn't mind temporarily retreating either because it's not like he's going anywhere. He's an ancient, immortal god-- he can wait. Conquering Earth today or a thousand years from now after the heroes are all dead, it doesn't matter to him. Time is nothing to an entity such as Darkseid. He's gonna still be here regardless.
Also, you need to keep in mind that the Justice League's job isn't to defeat Darkseid in a fistfight. No, their job is to protect Earth. You don't always have to beat up Darkseid in order to do that. All you have to do is get him off the Earth.
Mostly though, you need to be aware of how Darkseid prefers to operate. He'd rather fight you with his brains than his muscles. He prefers to outmaneuver & manipulate you. He takes enjoyment in the arts of war-- the planning, the deceptions, the manipulations --not the mundane act of combat itself. He spent the first 10,000 years of his reign overpowering civilizations with might and barbarism, but grew bored after realizing no one would ever be able to stop him through sheer force alone now that he's mastered the Omega Effect. With Darkseid now, it's all about the long range chess game. This is how the Justice League have always thwarted Darkseid's ambitions, not by overpowering him.
The only beings in the universe who can actually match or defeat Darkseid in battle are his brother Highfather (the ruler of the New Gods' twin paradise planet New Genesis*), and his own son, Orion, who's prophecied to finally slay his father in divine battle someday. In other words, it takes a New God to defeat a New God.
*The entire New Gods saga is a Biblical allegory for the comic book medium. Apokolips represents Hell; New Genesis represents Heaven. Highfather is the symbolic stand-in for the Judeo-Christian Jehova (God); while Darkseid symbolizes the equivalent of Satan.
@John Stern I'd be willing to bet instead that Darkseid saw it coming and allowed Constantine an escape door-- if he could find it. After all, Constantine does nothing but sow deception everywhere he roams also, which would only further Darkseid's goals of a divided Justice League.
Agreed
And I don't think thanos could have snapped darkseid's avatt
Ar out of existence. Because it seems to me like matter manipulation. And darkseid can manipulate matter too and he can manipulate souls too.
Also I believe superman can match darkseid as well because he has battled him many times already and he has fought orion as well and he has a numerous amount of impressive feats.
So, what possible way is there to destroy TRUE Darkseid
@@sadlobster1 superman did make a wish to miracle machine where which brainiac 5 or someone else created. It is considered the most powerful object in dc
And only superman was trusted with the miracle machine.
Superman analysed it and since he has photographic memory he create it and it allows you to make only one wish. And nobody knows what superman wished for even the monitors didn't. But superman said he wished for happy ending.
And superman shattered the essence of true darkseid by singing by vibrations. Because of miracle machine.
They stated in intro that Superman defeated Darkseid (not an avatar) killing him by singing using String Theory which is a weakness for Darkseid. Interesting I wonder how Mr. Mxzzlplzt (however you spell it) powers line up with Darkseids as Mr. basically is a walking infinity gauntlet.
Love seeing Marvel heads getting woke to Darkseid
I'm not a Marvel Head or DC Head, I love comic characters in general.
I already knew Darkseid was stronger than Thanos and that he should win. My only argument was if they keep Thanos in the same universe to fight Darkseid, while using the Infinity Gauntlet, than he would win. The only thing I didn't know about Darkseid was that he has his own domain and the avatars he uses in other dimensions and universes. But hopefully you enjoyed this reaction and more content coming soon. #ALL2HIM
COKE29 nice my brother -well said ...
@@coketwentynine any universe other than 4th world will be destroyed due to his presence so the marvel universe will be destroyed
COKE29
Darksied’s True form and his powers are multiversal. The Infinity Gauntlet isn’t a multiversal level item.
Basically anything the IG can do Darkseid himself can do better.
@@coketwentynine Darseid's real form or real self always rests in the 4th world universe(the only universe which can handle his presence) as, if darkseid's true self enters any other planes of existence(aka lets say the marvel multiverse) his presence itself will erase the multiverse from existence!!!......plus darkseid's own power was far greater than that of the infinity gauntlet's power and add to that darkseid's anti-life equation, it was always always an overkill/massacare and an unfair fight between darkseid and thanos, but it was heavily requested as many people thought that thanos could one shot darkseid or something along those lines(without even knowing darkseid's true powers).
Thanos: "I don't feel so good".
for your info, thanos (1963) is a rip off of darkseid (1961).
darkseid come first
Junior I don’t think thanos is a rip off they are very different
@@etherious5957 Starlin admitted himself it's a rip off
Dawid Wojnarowski maybe that was because people thought that he was lying if he said it wasn’t because of some of the smililarities
EtheriousKami Starlin wanted to copy the new god Metron, but the guys in marvel said to him: "if you want to do a rip off, do it with one of the good ones". So, then he copyed Darkseid to create Thanos, but he keeped the chair of Metron... NOW, after just a few issues of Thanos's debut, the personalitys and backstory of the characters became complitly different to each others... so while Thanos started as a rip-off, now is it's own character and more of a counterpart to Darkseid than anything else
Damien X ... .also Jack Kirby the Artist of both says so.
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Man.. I’ve been watching several reaction videos to this same fight.. and basically. It’s a two way street. There are those who know about the mighty Darkseid and know that he uses avatars and can basically destroy everything just by walking through the front door. And then there are the ones who overestimate the infinity gauntlet, their reactions change before the fight even starts. It’s hilarious really.. once they hear he rest in a different plane of existence, they say. “Welp thanos is dead”.
Darkseid didn't have the Anti-life Equation in this fight though
If he did, it wouldn't work on Thanos unless the gauntlet was taken off. When he brought Thanos to the Fourth World he could have used it on him then, but even if he did have it I don't think he would have used it. Thanos most likely angered him enough by that point that he wanted to end him.
he dosent need it
He doesn't need it. He flattens Thanos either way
Thanos is undoubtedly powerful but Darkseid is beyond powerful as he is Godlike ruler of the universe.
lol. God-like???
He is a fricking GOD
What most people dont realize is Darkseid alone would mop the floor with all of celestials probably at the same time. Darkseid has defeated the Greek Pantheon twice and even fought Zeus while he himself was depowered.
Darkseid fought the Anti-monitor while the Anti-Monitor possessed the ALE to a stalemate and Anti-Monitor is a multiverse level being without the Anti-life equation. Technically Darkseid has beaten The Source/Presence/God when he was amped. This fight between Thanos and Darkseid is not close.
When did darkseid beat the peesence? Pretty sure thats not possible.
Uh what?
@@SeraphSeph Soulfire Darkseid. It was a bit iffy. Short version Darkseid figured out what the presence plan for souls were in the DC universe and decided to beat him to the punch and amped himself to be almost on par with the source.
Also true form darkseid beat the quintessence who were really powerful than celestials too
People are always for Thanos at first, especially if he has the Infinity Gauntlet... Then as the explanation progresses, they slowly start to sweat.
R and R... yall cant confuse me i know u work for the red ribbon army
LOL!
One thing I have to disagree with ScrewAttack on - the Gauntlet would not allow Thanos to completely resist the Anti-Life Equation. It's possible that it might prevent it from *completely* turning Thanos into a slave to Darkseid, but it wouldn't leave him unscathed.
Also, I agree that it bothers me that Darkseid is constantly being beaten by people who SHOULD NOT be able to beat him. It's a bit silly.
Having said that, I think the general idea is that they're beating Darkseid's avatar, not True Darkseid. Also, Thanos needs the Gauntlet to be a genuine crossover-level threat. Without it, he's high-tier at best.
Best two out of three? The End Thanos with the Heart of the Universe vs. Soulfire Darkseid.
Darkseid still wins. That Thanos beat the Living Tribunal, a servant of Marvel's god, The One Above All. Soulfire Darkseid beat The Source, which is DC's version of god. Darkseid's simply too strong.
He didn't have the anti life equation in the fight. And Darkseid has never really been beaten EVER. He's only been delayed or his avatar damaged or His plans disrupted or the Earth protected by New Genesis.
RabidDogma funny enough a person who has defeated true darksied is doomdays, this was confirm by the writer when asked whether the darksied he defeated was a avatar or the real deal
The Deadpool scene at the end is pretty dark. Like somehow that is the scariest shit that happened. All that strength just disappears and he's completely helpless forever.
Thanos can’t beat Darkseid the infinity gauntlet only works in the Universal you get them from Darkseid exists in multiple universes lol
I've already addressed this. I may pin the comment.
Chuck Norris would annihilate both of them.
Lol
First time viewer, intro is pretty legit. The synch is a nice touch
Darkseid vs Thanos is like Tengen Toppa gurren Lagann vs Anti spiral
More like a dehydrated noodle vs anti spiral
But glad to see a gurren lagann fan here 😂
Y'all need check out: Origins & Powers: Yuga Khan/Darkseid's Father and do a reaction video you talking about Op
Darkseid is the best
When did the new day start doing reactions.
wow col
🤣
Mayday mayday
Thanos doesn't feels so good
Col
but what is that song at the end of the video🔥🔥
Homiletic by Taelor Gray
Beating people into submission isn't Darkseid's style, he prefers to corrupt and manipulate more than anything and usually lots of people die whenever he shows up.He never loses to the Justice League in terms of raw strength either, the league just does whatever they can until the new gods get to earth who're the ones that keep him in check.
6:25 ish when Deadpool popped up foreshadowed how the fight would end: "Breaker of Mad Titan hearts." Very dope.
Had to pin this because everyone thinks I don't know col...
"I'm not a Marvel Head or DC Head, I love comic characters in general.
I already knew Darkseid was stronger than Thanos and that he should win. My only argument was if they keep Thanos in the same universe to fight Darkseid, while using the Infinity Gauntlet, than he would win (IF they keep the fight within the same universe, otherwise the Infinity Gauntlet won't work). The only thing I didn't know about Darkseid was that he has his own domain and the avatars he uses in other dimensions and universes. But hopefully you enjoyed this reaction and more content coming soon." #ALL2HIM
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Ganondorf vs Dracula
Carnage vs Lucy
Saitama vs Popeye
Darkseid is.
All Hail Darkseid
Ok I watched a debunking of the death battle they nerfed Thanos and darksied a lot, they said Thanos is around 11D without the stones or cosmic cube and also said darksied would destroy him higher durability actually has irrelevant speed he's stronger than him he has the omega beams which can disintegrate him as already stated amungst other things they nerfed Thanos's durability which is true saying he's at max star level durability wise which he has shown many times to be above universal durability wise but darksied can just destroy reality and stuff like that, he has also beat up to someone who almost killed the presence DC's equivalent to God
Ummmm....who is thanos?
Wow col
why hello there patrick
A incel with superpowers
Why do they have the red ribbon logi
And yet there is still Darkseid's father (Yuga Khan) when he shows up Darkseid looks for a place to hide. The Justice League has technically never ever beaten Darkseid by the way. They can only hinder him so much and that's all.
Mr. Mxyzptlk destroys both.
I think his weakness is that he is a trickster so wouldn't be a threat to Darkseid. Goofball but similar power set to infinity gauntlet.
@@Freeyourdollar
Mxyzptlk is FAR above the IG. He's a 5th Dimensional being. A simple thought can do anything in our dimension and attacks would do absolutely nothing to him.
@@Vazcular One of the stones controls reality so has exactly the same effect. Just force him to say his name backwards and he is toast. He also gets in trouble from his people for screwing around too much with Prime Universe.
@@Freeyourdollar
It does absolutely nothing to the 5th Dimension. Remember, DC and Marvel are different in this area.
@@Vazcular I was assuming Mr. M would be taking on Thanos in the Marvel Universe. Regardless Mr. M would have zero interest in fighting Thanos he might prank him goof off a little and leave.
Darkseid is a New God which is a race. Other New Gods on New Genesis can scrap with him so there is parity. Superman can hang and killed Darkseid using String theory. Lex Luthor resurrected him which is why he is still running around lol.
It's alright, guys. Darkseid's powers are broken as fuck. The dude _is_ a god; a very, very powerful and vengeful god.
Huh? how is being a god being broken?
thanos can't do shit without little coloured rocks.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Broken, as in _unfair_ and just generally overpowered. Of course Thanos lost, dude.
Pay closer attention before assuming somebody's a Marvel fanboy.
@@josephschultz3301 That still makes no sense.
Just because they're overpowered that's broken now???
What?
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 How is this a phrase you haven't heard before?
I agree darkseid would win if he used his fourth demension powers but thanos would have to willingly go there. When have u seen thanos walk into a trap? Literally he folowed darkseid into the fourth demension. Look at the video. And also thanos is a has mastered the infinity gauntlet meaning he knows how to use all of the gems. He only used two of them in this scenario. Plus if superman could stop fourth demension darkseid just by singing than clearly he is not all powerful in that demension.
Darkseid could throw him in the portal. The reason why Thanos walked in the portal was because he he didn't know it would take him to another dimension. Darkseid could have easily opened the portal throw Thanos in and close it.
Jinxy Poptart that’s my point. Thanos never walks into anything he is not sure of. If he ever went with an enemies plan he would use one of his doppelgänger’s why the real thanos sits back and find out what’s really going on
Chucky 84 even so, darksied wouldn’t need to trick thanos as infinity gauntlet isn’t really a threat to him as he is above the concept of reality, not to mention he could walk in and bye bye multiverse
Also Superman is quite a op guy since dc has confirm Superman is actual embodiment of the “Superman trope” he as as powerful as he need to be for the story if his foe is stronger, he get stronger to match up, vise versa qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2772e59abdb32839fcac2b6806656137-c
Which also dc tends is more powerful then marvel due to it multiverse structure and making literal action, ideas and personification into characters and even to the point that dc multiverse is just one of many multiverse out there in the void suggest even the marvel universe exist (heck even one the endless made a cameo in a marvel comic)
@@saturnscore3059 Now say that again without crying lmfaooo