Sony actually addressed the issue with the cold temperature phantom touches. It happens because the touch controller is calibrated for a given temperature range when the device is turned on, so if you turn it on inside and then go outside when the indoor-outdoor difference is big, the issue could potentially happen. Turning the headphones on outside or restarting them once outside gets rid of the issue. Ever since reading up about it on Sony's support page I haven't had the issue happen to me once.
i wore them to focus on writing, and after 3 hrs, i didn’t even realize that my family came home. i thought i was home alone which really helped me stay in focus. i really recommend these for studying.
@@Gadgetibles It depends on the room temperature i think. In normal conditions it will be fine but everyone has a different sense in that matter. I mostly wear mine to block of the noises created by my neighbors and i wear them for hours, for many hours and i don't event recognize them on my head anymore after a while.
This is sometimes quite a big issue. When I wear my gaming headset at home in summer I sweat so much quicker than when I don't wear them. Your ears are very important for regulating body temperature.
Even better. I have mine paired to my phone and computer. All I have to do is hit disconnect on one and connect on the other. Never had to manually repair. Sure it's not remembering past connections to switch seamlessly, but it's a lot less of a hassle than people make it out to be.
@@parkerlreed ehh it's not that much of a hassle, but it's annoying. Especially on iOS, getting to the Bluetooth settings takes a little longer and for whatever reason my headphones love connecting to my iPad first before my Android phone.
Love the sound signature of Sony M3's but the most amazing feature for me is the ability to release cabin pressure during flights when reaching high altitudes and when landing, by activating the atmospheric optimizer of the headphone. I used it for a couple of international flights and cabin pressure on my ears easily goes away.It's so great.
@moo Well on the technical side if it's really physically or not, it really doesn't matter. Having it compared with my girlfriend's bose and my friend's beats. The pain of cabin pressure on my ears immediately goes away when I use the optimizer. When we are about to land, I let my girlfriend to try if it will work with her and she was amazed to feel the immediate relief of the cabin pressure pain. On the bad side, I was the one who suffered. lol.
@@suthobay Well if it is just a placebo effect, it will be only me, and it will not work on my girlfriend since she did not know what i was trying to prove when i gave it to her and there are others that can testify as well. You can also see for yourself incase you use it on a flight.
I just got a job after year and a half. I wanted to get me a gift for getting the job and you are the first that I saw did a 6+ month review I will get these thank you
I'll probably end up waiting for the xm4 even though the 3's are going for pretty cheap right now. It hasn't been announced nor confirmed yet, so there's no guarrantee it'll be out any time soon, but most likely whe're looking at July - August
@@Enrique-peralta it's definitely just not very functional compared to a physical button setup. It's a design/execution issue not a user error thing on my end. They went form over function on something that should work perfect first before looking cool.
I just got the 1000xm3 as an upgrade from the m1, which I love. The main things I love about m1 are the neutral (and crisp) sound quality which combined with the noise-cancellation results in amazing sound. Strangely the m3 is more like the headphones produced for the masses - stronger bass which mushes the clarity of the sound - that's imho really bad (and stupid) move from Sony. Now one of the features that made me confident about the m3 is the option to setup a custom EQ settings (in my case to drop the basses, and up the tremble) but apparently that drops the quality of the Bluetooth protocol, and that kinda defeats the purpose. So as result when I'm using them wirelessly I either can set EQ to my liking and accept the drop in signal quality, or keep the latter but then either live with the overwhelming basses and mushy sound, or would have to configure different EQs depending on the situation and application I'm in. So while the m3 might be good headphones, coming to them from the m1 is just disappointing!
some people say the touch controls are great some don't: personal preference phantom touches only happen in sub zero temperature: i won't wear my 100$ headphones in cold wtf, who wears headphones while it snowing or raining?
When you buy $400 headphones, they should function properly outdoors... don’t put the blame on users who expect simple stress testing from the engineering team
These do connect to multiple devices, I have it connected to my phone and my Walkman. Call Congress through, music stops. You just can't connect to to devices using the same Bluetooth profile, like two devices trying to play music. Also, the headphones don't need re pairing. They remember multiple devices. I use a total of 5 devices with mines and they connect automatically to all of those without the need to pair again.
Do not buy these. The latest firmware update has degraded the noise cancelling. Mounting Complaints can be found on reddit and other forums. But Sony refuses to fix the problem. I'm returning mine.
Herzen Andone im confused why would they change the quality also do u think it might b still worth it because i need a good pair of headphones for a decent price and i love sony
I have them a year, and never the volume went up or down by itself ... and volume up/down or skipping a song is because there is something wrong with your finger. :)
The sensitive/inconsistent touchpad is a show stopper for me. Also the Bose is lighter and just more innocuous than the Sony. When I read other reviews using both to make/answer cell phone calls Bose stood out big time. Bose can also connect to 2 bluetooth devices simultaneously. Sony can not and many are complaining that the call quality is terrible for the person on the other end. I like the Sony's sound and NC slightly better than the Bose but they are very close and the Bose is more comfortable imo.
The absolute deal breaker for me on these: The mic is awful. I mean I couldn't even use these to take or to make a call. Since my biggest use case is professional, the XM3's were useless. So as long as you absolutely don't care AT ALL about making or receiving a call, these are great. Otherwise, Bose is the only choice.
Love the headphones, but ultimately I am concerned about the batteries. I can't seem to find any replacement online. I don't need it now, but when I do I want to at least have the option to not buy a new pair of very expensive headphones.
They could give you the option to disable the touchpad controls in the next version. That would solve the problem. There's no cold weather where i live, so it's not an issue to me anyway.
Just get them bro if they come out and you see a reason to upgrade you can sell them for a good price. These headphones in my opinion are gonna stay relevant for a while so I don’t see why you shouldn’t get them
I've had my set for a few weeks and am very happy with them. My only negative (first world problem) is the device to device switching. Sure, it's easy and quick to disconnect on one and connect on the other but it is a shame they can't do multi devices.
Update: I don't know how I did it, but they now switch between devices! (Computer connected as voice, phone connected as media possibly?) That is, if I am listening to my phone and I play something on my computer that is what I will hear with no switching or disconnecting/connecting from me. Then if I want to listen to my phone I either stop the computer playing and the phone will start up again or I can go to the phone a push play and it takes over. Very nice! Also, the noise cancelling is beyond belief. I was in the gym room this morning where they had loud music playing and I simply couldn't hear it - it was an almost surreal experience.k
I just grabbed a pair of these for 100 bucks. I know the M4s are out but it seemed like a hell of a deal and from what I'm gathering, the upgrade is very minimal in improvement.
Great Sound but very uncomfortable to wear, IMO. The foam inside the ear cups would always brush against my ears. Returned them and got the Bose QC35. The noise cancelling isn't as good, but they are much more comfortable. I also like the physical buttons and multipoint support on the Bose.
Does anyone on the comments know if there are any hinge cracking/popping issues with the M3? From what I read on Amazon the M2 had this problem, but I have not found any thread on the M3...
I've had these headphones since Christmas and the more I use them the more I hate them!! They get hot after 15 minutes wear . I feel the noise cancelling takes away the clear sound. They do not work with my Sony Walkman nwz-zx2 android hi-res and A35 player because via the headphone connect app you cannot change the equalizer in LDAC . They are great via the cable but this defeats the object . And they are great at noise cancelling but for me it's more about sound and I don't like the bass too heavy and even on my s10 plus phone which I can use them on I can't really adjust this.
Well you probably bought the wrong headphones then. These are aimed towards commuters who have sound quality second to noise cancelling. These are definitely not for audiophiles.
Cool review, I really want to try them. My question is what happens to the battery life say in 10 years from now? Would it be a significant drop? I still use my 2009 Bose QC15 w/ a rechargeable AA battery and still work great with pretty decent sound quality-they honestly compete with modern day headphones. Why would I want to upgrade?
I cant believe how many reviews gloss over this point. Call quality is a disgrace. I sold my xm2 and bought the qc35 ii. It's like night and day in comparison when making calls. With the qc25 ii it's also really easy to buy a wired microphone for really noisy environments. Unless you ONLY use the Sony's for listening to music and its minimally superior ANC then they are much overrated in comparison to the QC35 ii.
@@inquireroftruth130 Yup, my GSM, Google Duo, WhatsApp calls are crystal clear when I switch to Ambient Sounds mode. But, Sony should have been more clear about how the GSM calls would work normally.
If Bose had just put a damn usb-c port on the QC35, I wouldn't even know that this product exists. Now I'm wondering how long I'm prepared to wait for them to get it right with the QC45, or if I should just buy these instead
is the multi connect something that can potentially be resolved with future firmware or is it a hardware limitation? That "issue" is the only thing keeping me from buying them right now, as I want to be connected to laptop and phone simultaneously
I saw a reddit post about this before and the answer boiled down to technically yes but it's very unlikely to happen. I went with the Surface Headphones because they support multiple devices and have USB C. I'm glad that I did because the multiple device support is great. I really wanted to get the XM3s for the better sound, battery life, and ANC but I just justify not having multiple device support.
As you can see, my glasses are fairly large and they are not uncomfortable for me in any way. HOWEVER, I feel like it would be user dependant given the huge number of variables (ie glasses variations, ear and head shapes, etc). The only thing I have noticed is that the glasses make the headphones lose the perfect seal and you do lose a little ANC power. So do what you will with that information :)
This is one area I'm happy with bose. I can use them comfortably with my glasses. Sony foam seems a tad harder than bose. When out running I just use an earphone
I really don't like the trend to put touch controls on headphones. I'm sorry, but nothing beats physical tactile switches and slides like on my Sony XB950B1.
@@roddyriccch15 Om du inte är beredd att betala priset för XM3 och ustället kan få MDR-1000x för ett bra pris. Ja. Men hade jag personligen inte haft MDR-1000X idag hade jag köpt XM3.
Sun7zu ok. Det är xm3 som jag funderar på att köpa, men funderar även på bose qc35. Många säger att öronen lätt blir svettiga av 1000x modellen och att dem inte är så komfortabla. Har du upplevt detta?
I have them, I only use them on the plane now because they suck at pairing with new devices, its a struggle. Matter of fact I pair them to my phone, and plug them into my ipad on the plane so I don't have to re-pair again. Phone calls suck, comfort and NC is top notch. Hate to say this, but the Bose are the better all around headset just for the pairing and phone quality. If NC is your main concern these are a beast.
With the control flaws you pointed out, I’ll stick to Bose. Also the sweating issue will push me to stay with Bose. Sound wise I’m happy with Bose. Sony is obviously inferior.
Katherine Cheshire I’ve got the QC35 II Bose and actually the new frames (eye glass) sound system, today. Just received them frames today. TOP NOTCH. I’m enjoying them already. My sound system in my SUV is Bose as well. Bose is fantastic, part of MIT. They fund research at MIT. Top Notch!
Mine's been great for 2 months now. But the only downside is that when I'm in the subway, whenever the door opens or closes, some kind of pop sounds appears. Other places such as bus or plane don't have these issues. Has it occurred to anyone else before?
The exact same thing happens to me too, also only on the subway. It sounds like a loud deep pop-sound. This only happens when noise cancelling is on, I think the headphones overcompensate for the sudden noise that the sub-door makes..
@@ryancheung5755 I think that's just the noice-chanceling Algorithm being a bit agressive, i doubt you would fare better with another one (i might be wrong on this though..).
GLITCHY HEADPHONES. READ THE NEGATIVE REVIEWS. After a while, a crackly sound started to be heard when the NC was on. I had to return these. Apparently its a very common issue. Do your internet research.
I have the same thoughts but with the Bose QC35ii and no problems with the touche controls (i don't like) because push buttems always work also in cool weather. And i'm not sweat on my ears. Even if you think the sound is better? It depends from person to person and you have to see the whole picture comfort, weight enz.... Bought the QC35ii 2 weeks ago for € 169 but the Sony XM4 is also heavily discounted everywhere.
I wouldn't personally trade those swipe gestures for physical buttons anyday and im still using xm2's. Boses are more comfortable, but they don't offer gestures, that''s why i'll keep going with these.
Just bought my pair today from amazon. I chose these headphones for commuting to and from work mainly for music and watching videos. I hardly receive phone calls on my phone. Hence, why I dont care for the mic quality.
So I thought I was CRAZY for this pairing issue. I have Jabra headphones that have this multi point bluetooth, which I didn't know was a thing, I thought it was normal. So having an ipad and an iphone, which means no NFC connections, every time I wanna switch devices, I have to go into the original device, disconnect, then go to the new device and connect. It's a small issue indeed, but SUPER annoying. It's a little easier if you're further away from the original device. Like if you walk outta the house with your phone and you had been connected to the ipad. The ipad connection will drop, then you can just connect straight to the headset, instead of shutting down the ipad connection first. Gotta be honest, it seems REALLY lazy on sony's part to have all these little bells and whistles, but not to have this multipoint thing. Between that and the cost, I'm 50/50 on whether to return mine or not.
Hey man good review but I'm thinking of buying these but when does the XM4 come out? Cause I'm worried that I buy these headphones and then the new ones come out soon. What should I do?
The sound and quality of these are amazing The pairing is one issue, yes but to be honest...how many devices to you need those connected? I have them with my phone 99% of the time and it works great The warm ears are also one issue but to reposition them a bit from time to time is nice anyway and by doing that they negate that issue And the touch controls are not bad to use; it works just fine In the end they have godly sound and the noice canceling is the real deal I use them nearly daily and a large and very noisy office room at work and they have paid themselves off multiple times They are much better than the bose in my opinion If you like what you hear -> go for them! Price will hurt a bit once but then its pure enjoyment ;)
After 1.5 year, It started to make click sound randomly. It makes me crazy. service was not able to fix it. google adviced to slap(really there videos on this topic). I even tried that, but nothing changed. Maybe service I contacted was problematic, I will try another service when I am in anohter city. Meanwhile, If anyone knows the solution, please tell me.
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Sony actually addressed the issue with the cold temperature phantom touches. It happens because the touch controller is calibrated for a given temperature range when the device is turned on, so if you turn it on inside and then go outside when the indoor-outdoor difference is big, the issue could potentially happen. Turning the headphones on outside or restarting them once outside gets rid of the issue. Ever since reading up about it on Sony's support page I haven't had the issue happen to me once.
How does that work? Can you update the firmware? I'm waiting for the MX4 though
@@dwaynehawkins just like the guy said, turn them on outside not inside. Judging by his comment no firmware update needed.
That's a great info!
Does it heat up around the ears and becomes uncomfortable to wear for a long period of time ?
Roy Moses Im getting these in about 4 weeks, I’ll tell you asap.
i wore them to focus on writing, and after 3 hrs, i didn’t even realize that my family came home. i thought i was home alone which really helped me stay in focus. i really recommend these for studying.
Does it heat up around the ears and becomes uncomfortable to wear for a long period of time ?
@@Gadgetibles It depends on the room temperature i think. In normal conditions it will be fine but everyone has a different sense in that matter. I mostly wear mine to block of the noises created by my neighbors and i wear them for hours, for many hours and i don't event recognize them on my head anymore after a while.
You probably wouldn't know if a thief broke into the house and stole all your stuff 😅😅😅
Great, I just ordered them for studying! :)
That's a good idea.
i have a 7.1 surround setup in my toilet
Made me laugh so hard! Rofl
hahahahahah
Hahha
With 9000 selection of movies.
I’d like to see
I have a 5.1 home theatre setup in my room
Weird flex but ok
I have a sound system in my room as well, but even I thought that was weird to just bring up.
I guess that's the new trend these days is to say weird flex but ok. .....
......yuck
@@damnyousalazar Yet. You brought it up.
@@ronaldinho4eva1 Nah, Londell Morris did. Learn how to read TH-cam comment threads ; )
I saved 15% on my insurance by switching to Geico....
"makes ears warm"
hahaha, that's the most first world problem I've ever heard.
In cold countries though it's a feature.
I live in Finland and I love it that my ear are always warm lol
This is sometimes quite a big issue. When I wear my gaming headset at home in summer I sweat so much quicker than when I don't wear them. Your ears are very important for regulating body temperature.
@@Jebble347 but your body doesnt only depend on your ears (as orientation)
@@bobmartin5259 and nowhere did anyone claim that it does.
"It's really nice to just turn off my 5.1 surround system." Subtle brag?
😂
Ehh, possible. But I have 3 (bedroom, livingroom and sons' room) in my house and you CAN have too much of a good thing.
I really wish they would give give you the option to turn the touch control off.
Yes, this should be the best solution
Actually when you use it wired, the touch control doesn't work
@@KK-ej4si rip for everybody that doesn't own an LG or Samsung phone
I agree. Too many phantom touches when jogging in the cold or in the rain. Otherwise, they're awesome.
Dr. Strange why? If you’re talking about the headphone jack, there’s something called a dongle
Hold the power button for 7 seconds and it'll go back to pairing mode
Even better. I have mine paired to my phone and computer. All I have to do is hit disconnect on one and connect on the other. Never had to manually repair. Sure it's not remembering past connections to switch seamlessly, but it's a lot less of a hassle than people make it out to be.
@@parkerlreed ehh it's not that much of a hassle, but it's annoying. Especially on iOS, getting to the Bluetooth settings takes a little longer and for whatever reason my headphones love connecting to my iPad first before my Android phone.
Dr. Strange Slide up (for control panel) or use Siri to access Bluetooth instantly in iOS.
@@dr.strange5419 That's Apple. It's all over it. ❤♥
How about the issue of heat up around the ears when you have it on for long listening sessions as in hours
something to know: usb c doesn't mean it has fast charging, that's just the port :D
Yes. Too many tech experts don't seem to understand this. The letter is the port style, the number is the data standard.
Yes... But that said these headphones do fastcharge
the best by far for air travel and noisy commutes - unbelievable performance puts Bose 700s to shame in my opinion
Love the sound signature of Sony M3's but the most amazing feature for me is the ability to release cabin pressure during flights when reaching high altitudes and when landing, by activating the atmospheric optimizer of the headphone. I used it for a couple of international flights and cabin pressure on my ears easily goes away.It's so great.
@moo Well on the technical side if it's really physically or not, it really doesn't matter. Having it compared with my girlfriend's bose and my friend's beats.
The pain of cabin pressure on my ears immediately goes away when I use the optimizer. When we are about to land, I let my girlfriend to try if it will work with her and she was amazed to feel the immediate relief of the cabin pressure pain. On the bad side, I was the one who suffered. lol.
@@lloydlausa5314 placebo affect buddy
@@suthobay Well if it is just a placebo effect, it will be only me, and it will not work on my girlfriend since she did not know what i was trying to prove when i gave it to her and there are others that can testify as well. You can also see for yourself incase you use it on a flight.
Thank you for that tip. I'll try that next time i fly. My ears are so bad in flight. When do you take them off in flight?
Does it heat up around the ears and becomes uncomfortable to wear for a long period of time ?
Watching this video with them on my head!
Nice! Enjoying them?
also watching them with my ears.
me too buddy. i have my galaxy buds for light usage
Same
same
The ear warmers are amazing when you live in the cold areas.
Got a pair 2 days ago and love them.
got it on 28th
What about the issue with microphone? The other person can hear you clearly?
I just got a job after year and a half. I wanted to get me a gift for getting the job and you are the first that I saw did a 6+ month review I will get these thank you
Congrats on your new job Paul 🎉🎉
Congrats on the job, I hope it’s going well!
Hey, after six months, did you end up managing to get this headphones? What dl you think of it?
When they get sweaty after five hours of chem revision (ugh) I just ramp up my top exhaust fan and put my xm3s over the grate for a bit 😂
Should I buy the xm3 or should I wait for the xm4?
I'll probably end up waiting for the xm4 even though the 3's are going for pretty cheap right now. It hasn't been announced nor confirmed yet, so there's no guarrantee it'll be out any time soon, but most likely whe're looking at July - August
Gregory Dunlop depends on when you're asking. Right after xm4 release date? No. 2,5 months before suspected xm5 release date? Probably yes.
i have been using 1000xm2 from over 12 months and they work as good as new
3:18 Did I just hear "physical touch controls"?
I've never had a single problem with the touch pad 😮
Must be the whole freezing temperatures thing
I have without the temperature thing. They just aren't as good as a physical button
@@wicked_observer i have also, but i think it was operator error.
@@Enrique-peralta it's definitely just not very functional compared to a physical button setup. It's a design/execution issue not a user error thing on my end. They went form over function on something that should work perfect first before looking cool.
The fast forward function work for you?
Do u get a problem with ur headphones on the transit...
That shirt could use an iron my man - pockets especially. Good review though!
Haha, I don't care enough about what I wear for that, thanks though 😜
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Mark Spurrell 😂 😂 😂
I believe with all my heart that this is the best comment on this video
I was just scrolling in the comments to check if somebody noticed this... it s a bit annoying tbh
it's a good thing i'm living in the tropics and mostly likely not ever leaving my country. Getting these tomorrow!
Whaat? I love the touchpad i live in Norway i have never had problem because of the weather.
Amazing headphones but terrible microphone which isn't acceptable for a device that cost £300
I agree. Strange that he didnt cover this in the video.
I just got the 1000xm3 as an upgrade from the m1, which I love. The main things I love about m1 are the neutral (and crisp) sound quality which combined with the noise-cancellation results in amazing sound. Strangely the m3 is more like the headphones produced for the masses - stronger bass which mushes the clarity of the sound - that's imho really bad (and stupid) move from Sony.
Now one of the features that made me confident about the m3 is the option to setup a custom EQ settings (in my case to drop the basses, and up the tremble) but apparently that drops the quality of the Bluetooth protocol, and that kinda defeats the purpose.
So as result when I'm using them wirelessly I either can set EQ to my liking and accept the drop in signal quality, or keep the latter but then either live with the overwhelming basses and mushy sound, or would have to configure different EQs depending on the situation and application I'm in.
So while the m3 might be good headphones, coming to them from the m1 is just disappointing!
My XM2 after a year still has been great. No cracks
Same here.
Love mine.
Got the MX3's coming in the post
Wym by cracks
That’s it, I’ve decided to get these ones. I wasn’t sure until I saw your video. Thank you.
You’re welcome. Enjoy!
Sunshine Sunashi you won’t regret it
For the volume touch... just slide up and hold it... IT will turn the vol up... no need to swipe upwards so many times
Good tip got mine yesterday love em
Oooh that's awesome thank you!
Anyone had a problem with clicking noises in the left ear cup?
Yepp, think I'm going to return them. Borderline not acceptable for 350 dollar headphones.
Yep I'm starting to get them too, I only get them when not playing music though, weird.
The clicking noise comes and goes, if I move my head at all the left ear cup always clicks. Planning to take mine back on warranty.
mine usually clicks when I'm commuting to work and it's a bumpy road
@@JCJW101
You only _hear_ it when not playing music, you can actually hear it when you listen carefully
Glad to see a mid-term review on this product!
I think over ear headphones will always make your ears get warm.
Check out philips fidelio's with suede earcups (or any open back headphone (preferably with suede cups))
ASTROS A50 DON'T
Didn’t have the touchpad issue in NYC in Feb, but I also learned that my head gets way too hot. I need earbuds if I’m out and about.
When is the release of the 4 generation? :D
Ali_ 43 2022
It did last week
Thanks for the long-term review!!great vids👍👍
No wonder 4 hour without a break
The range and sound quality in using ldac is very impressive
used my mx3 in sub zero temps in the uk with no problems at all, great headphones
they don't sound great
some people say the touch controls are great some don't: personal preference
phantom touches only happen in sub zero temperature: i won't wear my 100$ headphones in cold wtf, who wears headphones while it snowing or raining?
I did to warm my ears. No they‘re broken (but not due to the rain ans snow)
I do since i wanna listen to music and i live in Sweden and also hate in ears
When you buy $400 headphones, they should function properly outdoors... don’t put the blame on users who expect simple stress testing from the engineering team
Could you try out the Nuraphones? They are amazing!!
These do connect to multiple devices, I have it connected to my phone and my Walkman. Call Congress through, music stops. You just can't connect to to devices using the same Bluetooth profile, like two devices trying to play music. Also, the headphones don't need re pairing. They remember multiple devices. I use a total of 5 devices with mines and they connect automatically to all of those without the need to pair again.
Do not buy these. The latest firmware update has degraded the noise cancelling. Mounting Complaints can be found on reddit and other forums. But Sony refuses to fix the problem. I'm returning mine.
Herzen Andone im confused why would they change the quality also do u think it might b still worth it because i need a good pair of headphones for a decent price and i love sony
@@margot272 so that people consider upgrading to the newer model
@@AarushAgarwal there is no new model
@@noahchemin3588 1000xm4 are releasing soon
The firmware can be downgraded, there are instructions for it on Reddit
Great review! Thanks for the helpful information.
I have them a year, and never the volume went up or down by itself ... and volume up/down or skipping a song is because there is something wrong with your finger. :)
Guys is the mic now good cuz I heard that it's pretty bad
I'm planning to buy one soon
Its not amazing but not bad. Don't expect to use it for everything. Its made for just calls.
The sensitive/inconsistent touchpad is a show stopper for me. Also the Bose is lighter and just more innocuous than the Sony. When I read other reviews using both to make/answer cell phone calls Bose stood out big time. Bose can also connect to 2 bluetooth devices simultaneously. Sony can not and many are complaining that the call quality is terrible for the person on the other end. I like the Sony's sound and NC slightly better than the Bose but they are very close and the Bose is more comfortable imo.
I just returned my Sony today... The phone call is terrible as people always can't hear me and I ended up going back to bose again
My friend lives in norway where its -10 to -20 in the winter and he have never had any problems with the xm3!!!
The absolute deal breaker for me on these: The mic is awful. I mean I couldn't even use these to take or to make a call. Since my biggest use case is professional, the XM3's were useless. So as long as you absolutely don't care AT ALL about making or receiving a call, these are great. Otherwise, Bose is the only choice.
living in the middle east, never have to worry about the cold. its basically a myth here
You are a lucky one. In my city, winter takes half a year
Love the headphones, but ultimately I am concerned about the batteries. I can't seem to find any replacement online. I don't need it now, but when I do I want to at least have the option to not buy a new pair of very expensive headphones.
Way too much bass. Lacks clarity and stage. EQ improves it but only a little. There are better choices for 300.
Totally agree, bought them due to the hype and reviews. Not angry just dissapointed.
They could give you the option to disable the touchpad controls in the next version. That would solve the problem. There's no cold weather where i live, so it's not an issue to me anyway.
Yup they literally did that
I'm thinking of buying them but I'm scared the xm4 are going to come out soon. Anybody has an idea of when they are coming out?
Just get them bro if they come out and you see a reason to upgrade you can sell them for a good price. These headphones in my opinion are gonna stay relevant for a while so I don’t see why you shouldn’t get them
I've had my set for a few weeks and am very happy with them.
My only negative (first world problem) is the device to device switching. Sure, it's easy and quick to disconnect on one and connect on the other but it is a shame they can't do multi devices.
Update: I don't know how I did it, but they now switch between devices! (Computer connected as voice, phone connected as media possibly?) That is, if I am listening to my phone and I play something on my computer that is what I will hear with no switching or disconnecting/connecting from me. Then if I want to listen to my phone I either stop the computer playing and the phone will start up again or I can go to the phone a push play and it takes over. Very nice!
Also, the noise cancelling is beyond belief. I was in the gym room this morning where they had loud music playing and I simply couldn't hear it - it was an almost surreal experience.k
I just grabbed a pair of these for 100 bucks. I know the M4s are out but it seemed like a hell of a deal and from what I'm gathering, the upgrade is very minimal in improvement.
I don't know about the problem with cold temperature. Thank god I'm from the Philippines.
Great Sound but very uncomfortable to wear, IMO. The foam inside the ear cups would always brush against my ears. Returned them and got the Bose QC35. The noise cancelling isn't as good, but they are much more comfortable. I also like the physical buttons and multipoint support on the Bose.
You can connect 2 devices. On phone just "call" and on computer or tablet "media" bluetooth.
Sorry could you explain that?
does anyone know if you can use the noise cancelling function without listening to music?
Does anyone on the comments know if there are any hinge cracking/popping issues with the M3? From what I read on Amazon the M2 had this problem, but I have not found any thread on the M3...
I've had these headphones since Christmas and the more I use them the more I hate them!! They get hot after 15 minutes wear . I feel the noise cancelling takes away the clear sound. They do not work with my Sony Walkman nwz-zx2 android hi-res and A35 player because via the headphone connect app you cannot change the equalizer in LDAC . They are great via the cable but this defeats the object . And they are great at noise cancelling but for me it's more about sound and I don't like the bass too heavy and even on my s10 plus phone which I can use them on I can't really adjust this.
Well you probably bought the wrong headphones then. These are aimed towards commuters who have sound quality second to noise cancelling. These are definitely not for audiophiles.
Did u update the firmware 6 months later for this review
Cool review, I really want to try them. My question is what happens to the battery life say in 10 years from now? Would it be a significant drop? I still use my 2009 Bose QC15 w/ a rechargeable AA battery and still work great with pretty decent sound quality-they honestly compete with modern day headphones. Why would I want to upgrade?
Anyone in QUARANTINE.
Awesome sound but horrible phone calls. Callers cannot hear me. Very disappointed.
I cant believe how many reviews gloss over this point. Call quality is a disgrace. I sold my xm2 and bought the qc35 ii. It's like night and day in comparison when making calls. With the qc25 ii it's also really easy to buy a wired microphone for really noisy environments. Unless you ONLY use the Sony's for listening to music and its minimally superior ANC then they are much overrated in comparison to the QC35 ii.
Call quality is just fine. Just you have to switch to "Ambient Sound" before or during the call. That will fix the call quality issue.
Tarkan Erimer
Really? Wow, I wish I would have known this before I returned them last week. I went back to the QC35 IIs.
JASON MATTHEWS
I did the exact same thing- Returned them for the Bose. Spent Friday in an airport with many calls. No problem at all.
@@inquireroftruth130 Yup, my GSM, Google Duo, WhatsApp calls are crystal clear when I switch to Ambient Sounds mode. But, Sony should have been more clear about how the GSM calls would work normally.
If Bose had just put a damn usb-c port on the QC35, I wouldn't even know that this product exists. Now I'm wondering how long I'm prepared to wait for them to get it right with the QC45, or if I should just buy these instead
Touch controls work great, you're just not good at using them😂
is the multi connect something that can potentially be resolved with future firmware or is it a hardware limitation? That "issue" is the only thing keeping me from buying them right now, as I want to be connected to laptop and phone simultaneously
I saw a reddit post about this before and the answer boiled down to technically yes but it's very unlikely to happen.
I went with the Surface Headphones because they support multiple devices and have USB C. I'm glad that I did because the multiple device support is great. I really wanted to get the XM3s for the better sound, battery life, and ANC but I just justify not having multiple device support.
You can connect to 2 sources simultaneously, e.g. connect to phone for phone calls only and computer for media/music only.
That shirt is screaming for an iron...lol
Nice follow-up. One question: Are these still comfortable with glasses on?
That’s a question I’ve having as well. Someone mind to share glasses experience with these cans?
As you can see, my glasses are fairly large and they are not uncomfortable for me in any way. HOWEVER, I feel like it would be user dependant given the huge number of variables (ie glasses variations, ear and head shapes, etc). The only thing I have noticed is that the glasses make the headphones lose the perfect seal and you do lose a little ANC power. So do what you will with that information :)
Mark Spurrell ok thanks for the heads up, I will be looking for headphones that are glasses compatible
This is one area I'm happy with bose. I can use them comfortably with my glasses. Sony foam seems a tad harder than bose. When out running I just use an earphone
Listening this video with my own pair of M3s ;)
Is the sound good from the headphones?
Thanks. Guess ill keep my qc 35s
Great Review, Thank you!
I really don't like the trend to put touch controls on headphones. I'm sorry, but nothing beats physical tactile switches and slides like on my Sony XB950B1.
You make some quality videos man, keep it up!
Thanks so much!
I'm still using the MDR-1000Xs and I've never had a problem with phantom controls, even in -20 Celsius. Strange, maybe Sweden isn't humid enough :)
Sun7zu ja e också svensk. Skulle du rekkomendera Sony mdr1000x?
@@roddyriccch15 Om du inte är beredd att betala priset för XM3 och ustället kan få MDR-1000x för ett bra pris. Ja. Men hade jag personligen inte haft MDR-1000X idag hade jag köpt XM3.
Sun7zu ok. Det är xm3 som jag funderar på att köpa, men funderar även på bose qc35. Många säger att öronen lätt blir svettiga av 1000x modellen och att dem inte är så komfortabla. Har du upplevt detta?
I have them, I only use them on the plane now because they suck at pairing with new devices, its a struggle. Matter of fact I pair them to my phone, and plug them into my ipad on the plane so I don't have to re-pair again. Phone calls suck, comfort and NC is top notch. Hate to say this, but the Bose are the better all around headset just for the pairing and phone quality. If NC is your main concern these are a beast.
@@silentwater79 I hope sony has a software upgrade to fix the pairing. There is no excuse for the awful mic though.
Elvisisalive turning on ambient noise during the call fixes the phone call issue I heard. Try that
With the control flaws you pointed out, I’ll stick to Bose. Also the sweating issue will push me to stay with Bose. Sound wise I’m happy with Bose. Sony is obviously inferior.
If you wouldn't mind, what model Bose do you think is the most similar to these headphones? Or rather, what model do you use?
Katherine Cheshire I’ve got the QC35 II Bose and actually the new frames (eye glass) sound system, today. Just received them frames today. TOP NOTCH. I’m enjoying them already. My sound system in my SUV is Bose as well. Bose is fantastic, part of MIT. They fund research at MIT. Top Notch!
@@zaptor1514 alright! Thanks for your reply
Thats weird the xm3 has a touchpad issue but not the xm2. I wonder if that touchpad texture helped alot
I have 1000XM3 and never had any touchpad issues. They work all the time just fine.
@@TarkanErimer i just have the xm2 and don't have a problem. But it is a known problem the touchpad freaks out in very cold temperatures on the 3
The Sony WH1000XM3's sound amazing and are quite comfortble, but I haven't seen the problem with the touch controls that you've seen, Mark.
Go to service center, they are fixible now (my was fixed 2 weeks ago)
Alex Alex he never said they needed fixing 🤔
@@_VenusV yes xD
My 1000xm3 makes craky sounds on the hinges and there is a louder sough on the right earcup after 4 mounth.
Maybe your dnd session is just a little too intense.
I've never played DND but I am glad that we are that point in society where a guy can openly say he played DND for 4 hours without being made fun of.
Haha, yeah nerds are cool these days 🤓
The quality of the microphone is terrible unfortunately. They are good for music, good ANC function. But call quality... just disappointing.
Mine's been great for 2 months now. But the only downside is that when I'm in the subway, whenever the door opens or closes, some kind of pop sounds appears. Other places such as bus or plane don't have these issues. Has it occurred to anyone else before?
The exact same thing happens to me too, also only on the subway. It sounds like a loud deep pop-sound. This only happens when noise cancelling is on, I think the headphones overcompensate for the sudden noise that the sub-door makes..
@@JS19190 Yes, that's so annoying. Should I return it to Sony to fix it? Or is it a common issues of this model?
@@ryancheung5755 I think that's just the noice-chanceling Algorithm being a bit agressive, i doubt you would fare better with another one (i might be wrong on this though..).
Try turning NC off when you get on the subway. Let us know if that works.
@@treydrier3169 Yes, this works. If you turn off ANC in the subway there's no pop-sound anymore.
I'm not selling these headphones in any circumstances, until xm4 is out....
same as the clowns who have to have the new iphone every single year the day it comes out.
GLITCHY HEADPHONES. READ THE NEGATIVE REVIEWS. After a while, a crackly sound started to be heard when the NC was on. I had to return these. Apparently its a very common issue. Do your internet research.
I have the same thoughts but with the Bose QC35ii and no problems with the touche controls (i don't like) because push buttems always work also in cool weather. And i'm not sweat on my ears. Even if you think the sound is better? It depends from person to person and you have to see the whole picture comfort, weight enz.... Bought the QC35ii 2 weeks ago for € 169 but the Sony XM4 is also heavily discounted everywhere.
I wouldn't personally trade those swipe gestures for physical buttons anyday and im still using xm2's. Boses are more comfortable, but they don't offer gestures, that''s why i'll keep going with these.
Just bought my pair today from amazon. I chose these headphones for commuting to and from work mainly for music and watching videos. I hardly receive phone calls on my phone. Hence, why I dont care for the mic quality.
Is It a good idea to buy these now? Im afraid the XM4 Come out just when i buy these
Antoine Moran Nay! Not good idea, wait for Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones 700. Coming soon!
@@meshalalenazi2200 way too expensive...
meshal alenazi yeah for 400+ dollars? Hell no
AK8WH1000XM4 just passes the FCC. XM4s are coming out soon
Still not out though. Can't be much longer?
I tried qc35 2 and I LOVE IT ! Strangely More comfortable than the Bose 700 in some aspects too
Dude, dude! I need a reply! Did you or do you experience the infamous hissing or cracking or clicking sound from this? Thank you so much!
Same, some ppl say that
Yh but it goes away so not a problem for me
Yoooo this is important? How and when do you get it and how and when does it go away?
Please tell us more. Like the manufacturing date of the pair etc.
@@DoingStuffAF I dont know how it goes away, look it up ony youtube I guess
Mine have developed a squeking / creaking noise at the hinge by the right ear cup, anyone else experienced this?
I don't hear any sound of the hinge. Have mine since a few days tho...
what about video sound lag?
No one answering..
My 1000xm3 two week and have headband cracing sound
So I thought I was CRAZY for this pairing issue. I have Jabra headphones that have this multi point bluetooth, which I didn't know was a thing, I thought it was normal.
So having an ipad and an iphone, which means no NFC connections, every time I wanna switch devices, I have to go into the original device, disconnect, then go to the new device and connect. It's a small issue indeed, but SUPER annoying. It's a little easier if you're further away from the original device. Like if you walk outta the house with your phone and you had been connected to the ipad. The ipad connection will drop, then you can just connect straight to the headset, instead of shutting down the ipad connection first.
Gotta be honest, it seems REALLY lazy on sony's part to have all these little bells and whistles, but not to have this multipoint thing. Between that and the cost, I'm 50/50 on whether to return mine or not.
Hey man good review but I'm thinking of buying these but when does the XM4 come out?
Cause I'm worried that I buy these headphones and then the new ones come out soon. What should I do?
Same here . I would rather wait if the newer ones come out this year if not than i buy these now . Let me know if u find out .
@@milasanchez2723 hey I heard something about a new XM3 or improved version in August. I'm not sure tho
@@danielmaasdorp2774 keep my updated . If it is true should be soms leaked info in July .
The sound and quality of these are amazing
The pairing is one issue, yes but to be honest...how many devices to you need those connected?
I have them with my phone 99% of the time and it works great
The warm ears are also one issue but to reposition them a bit from time to time is nice anyway and by doing that they negate that issue
And the touch controls are not bad to use; it works just fine
In the end they have godly sound and the noice canceling is the real deal
I use them nearly daily and a large and very noisy office room at work and they have paid themselves off multiple times
They are much better than the bose in my opinion
If you like what you hear -> go for them! Price will hurt a bit once but then its pure enjoyment ;)
@@Cross_111 почему не используешь с компьютером?
After 1.5 year, It started to make click sound randomly. It makes me crazy. service was not able to fix it. google adviced to slap(really there videos on this topic). I even tried that, but nothing changed. Maybe service I contacted was problematic, I will try another service when I am in anohter city. Meanwhile, If anyone knows the solution, please tell me.