Sony WH1000XM4: Painfully Honest Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- There are a lot of great noise cancelling headphones out there these days from the AirPods Max to the Soundcore Q30s The Sony WH1000XM4 have been around for a while now and they are not cheap at $349, but are they worth considering at that price? Let do a little Painfully Honest Review
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I don’t know how you’ve had them for over a year when they dropped in August 2020 but okay
Since he’s a reviewer he might have gotten them early
People make mistakes sometimes, I think the review itself is what matters. Also have a great day lmao im curious if he really had it for a year
Mkbhd be jealous
That’s why it’s called “painfully honest” reviews
Ahaa emphasis on painful
WH1000-XM3 user for several years here. Love everything about them! Can imagine how much better the XM4 are with its improved hardware.
I got them used on amazon in february to have something better than my airpods and i really enjoy the difference. They do a perfect job for my needs. Good review 👍🏼
Nice to see you back doing what you love.
I'm still using the XM3 and I freaking love them. If you're patient you can usually find them on sale. I am pretty certain I got mine for 199 USD in 2018. I know the fit won't be the same for everybody but I have worn them for multiple 16+ hour flights and they make the travel soooo much better. Definitely no problem making the entire flight with the battery life. Headphones are so particular to the consumer, but for me these are the best travel-friendly, wear-while-doing-household-tasks headphones I have. In fact, I am using them right now.
For Hi-Fi, sit-at-the-computer headphones, I would go with something else.
What else?
can I use 1000xm4 with my TV?
Had Mark 3's for couple years now and they are just awesome❤️❤️❤️. Have worn them continuously on several short & long haul flights with little or no break, the comfort & the 30 hour ANC playback makes it possible. The only thing lacking in XM3 was call quality, because the same microphones were being used for ANC as well as call mic, which Sony claims has been fixed in Mark 4 by adding an internal feedback mic. Will definitely upgrade to Mark 4 soon.
I just picked up a pair of these over the Holidays since they were discounted down to $228. What do you think is the best EQ profile? I know there are pre-set options but do you think one of these pre-sets is the way to go or is there a custom setting you think is the best sound?
Holy cow I just found a black case outside by the dumpster and I picked it up and it had a brand new pair of these inside. I didn’t even know what they were! They still had the rubber band around the charger and everything 😳
so weird
Yeah not a fan of the bronze I’m gonna get my sharpie out and color over the logo
I had to EQ mine to get more vocal clarity from them. Overall they are excellent and the app support is very good. An easy recommendation especially when they land under $300 with discounts.
The Sony WH-CH- 910N is an adequate 2nd choice, you can pick them up sometimes for around $150
Does it have good bass compared to Sony MDRXB950BT/B
Whatd eq?
@@zowo6604 No. It does not. I have both headphones. My dad has these and I had the MDRXB950BT/B and then I accidentally broke it so my dad let me borrow the WH1000XM4. It sounds like the drums are weirdly isolated.
Just bought mine today and love them.
Had mine for a few months, one of the best things I ever bought.
So should I get it
@@Walter-_-_White i just ordered mine, i'll tell you in 2 days
@@ssmile6239 3 days now.
I own the xm3 and i dont see a big difference.
@@chaikagaz the big difference is having multiple devices connected at the same time, apart from that they are very similar
The bronze logos look amazing in my opinion. Couldn't think of any other color I'd want them in
I'm looking at getting a good pair of headphones for working out, bike riding, hiking, and on public transport, and for just everyday use. I'm stuck between the ua project rock over ear training headphones and the Sony WH-1000XM4 Wireless Noice Cancelling Headphones. Which do you think would be better for working out, bike riding, everyday use? can you maybe do a video to compare them? also a big thing for me is sound (volume) are these loud headphones?
Or can you recommend any good quality wireless noise-canceling over ear headphones that have great battery life and for what I've mentioned above.
Which one would you recommend for what I would need/want? (working out/exercise, bike riding, chilling at home, movies, calls, public transport, volume (loud), etc)
Got a pair on sale at Amazon on Monday. Loving them so far!
gonna bite the bullet and get them :)
Absolutely agree. To be honest I haven't been able to find any flaw about these headphones. They are truly great, their value is just insane. I did not manage to find them on sale though, at the time I bought them they had just been in for a couple of weeks, but I love them so much that I would have paid much more for them and still would be totally satisfied.
Wanna find a flaw. Connect them to Samsung TV.
@@johnyksf Thank you for your feedback. What exactly happens when you hook them to a Samsung TV? I'm curious. Unfortunately we only own a couple of Bravia TVs and a couple of cheap 65" TCL in the basement, but Samsung TVs are amongst the best in the world, I wonder what could be wrong with them? Honestly with all the Apple and Windows computers in the house we have I've never heard of any hickups from anyone about any of the 3 pairs of the XM4s (and 2 old pairs of XM3s as well) we own. Everyone is perfectly happy with those incredible Sony headphones for every purpose they could fill.. Anyway, I am really interested to know what could go wrong with those Samsung TVs honestly, let me know, we were about to buy an 85" for our bedroom, maybe we should not based on your experience, as we are huge lovers of Sony headphones to get into our experience.
got mine today, currently have them on, love them so so much so far
Hello, I'm thinking of buying Sony wh1000xm3. If I buy xm4, which xm3 would you recommend? is there any difference between them?
Can these be listened to without the ANC? If yes, do they sound as good with the ANC off?
Hi dear friend. I noticed from other people's opinions that the exaggerated bass of these headphones makes us not hear a clear sound from it.
I wanted to buy m50xbt headphones. Do you think these headphones are a better choice than these Sony headphones in terms of clarity and sound resolution?
I still use the WH1000XM2 and i have no remorse that i bought them 3 years ago. Listening to them makes me wonder if they get better after some time using them. They sound deep and bright enough for me even without using some sort of EQ on them. Noise cancelling is way enough for me because when you listen to music the noise around you is already less and the noise cancelling does it makes even more quiet during listening.
Excellent headphones. Thank you for the review. They are on sale at best buy for $278 and $279 at amazon right now.
I’m looking to buy the XM4 as my first ANC headphone during the upcoming holiday season. I just have two questions for you: how’s the XM4 performing for someone wearing glasses like you and me? Do the ANC and ambient modes work well?
Hi I've watched a lot of your headphone reviews, I've noticed you never talk about, headphone noise leakage. I bought my headphones after a long research of things I need from a headphone and Sony xm4 won. But I found the noise leakage is terrible, to a point my partner is annoyed when I have them on in bed. Recently I went on a trip to Mexico, and to my dismay, the passenger next to me, asked if I could turn my headphones down, I was so surprised by how much it disturbed them, as my phone was at half volume. Have you noticed this with the Sony's??And what from your experience are the best non-noise leakage headphones.
Thank you
This reminded me of some of the first PHT videos I watched a couple of years ago. In a good way.
have you tried comparing this two?
sony wh xm4 vs ath m50xbt2
been looking for wireless headphones though for a couple of years. and still haven't decided which is which there's alot of headphones >.
Question for Jason and the community:
I've been eying the XM4s for entertainment use, but I also occasionally create and edit mostly spoken word audio content that needs to be decent, but necessarily super-accurate professional quality.
Would these be serviceable for my needs as a pair of monitoring headphones during recording and editing, or should I also get a proper pair of monitoring headphones even if I get the XM4s?
On a pro level no. For your own pleasure. Sure
How's the sidetone? I'm looking for great headphones with sidetone.
Does it work with Win10 audio + mic? E.g. Ms Teams calls, discord, gaming, etc
I was looking to get these for all the reasons you stated (time to upgrade my old Bose QC15) but just out of pure curiosity… if I wanted to dip my toe into the audiophile realm… would it be worth getting a DAC or just plug them in with my lightening adaptor and experience the CD like lossless audio first?
It depends on what you’re looking for. Wireless are definitely better for convenience and do pretty well for sound. Wired will always be more potential.
I still have the old 1st Gen that I bought back in 2017 and I still enjoy it :D
Waiting for my free set to arrive. Can't wait
Just found your channel and loving it... TY! I just bought these Sony headphones today. Love the anc part of these but i can't get past the audio sounding like a surround sound equal to a gym or Hall with the reverb.... Ugggg. I guess it is what it is though. What are your fav. wired headphones under $500.00? Thanks again for your channel.
Picked mines up today from Best Buy. Turned them on & headed straight to the gym, later on I used them to play some PUBG on PC using the headphone jack wire. Overall rating… 10/10 beast of headphones. Noise cancellation is unbelievable, sound is crisp & clear. I’d recommend to anyone who is looking to purchase a pair.
Does the WH1000XM4 work well with guitar amplifiers??
I bought these the other day to connect to my work laptop. The mic quality was awful. People stated i sound muffled and far away. If i buy a 3.5 mic boom, will that help?
Awesome review. I was going to pull the trigger on some Aiwa arc1 anc but I can’t find any reviews on them here in TH-cam. So I guess I’m going to wait for the Sony wh 1000mx4 to go on sale so I can buy them.
I have a question, so is the audio good for everything? (music, calls, movies, games) I also want to know if the cushions on the ears wear out easily.
Everything but games. Latency can become an issue with these in games. If it is just chill and casual RPGs it won't matter but fast paced action where speed counts you might wanna go for a dedicated gaming headset with dongle instead.
I love my xm4. Had them for a few weeks
Ok, if you're a lot into good quality sound, and ANC which ones would be your choice?
I'd like to hear that too
This is the first video of yours that I’ve seen. It’s an excellent review, and I must say, there’s a quality about you that makes me want to sit down with you and just have a chat about life while drinking coffee, and I like that.
I am so excited I bought them for 220 used like new on Amazon, i think its a freaking steal. Love the video
bro same lmao
Hey Jason! I need to make a decision, please help. I'll be getting these XM4s in a month. Now should I get them or wait for the XM5? Because XM4s have been out for 8+ months now. What should I do? Get XM4 or wait for the XM5
@Brayden Thomas alright, thanks!
The battery life is really impressive on these given the fact that they run LDAC. On my neck band if I use LDAC the battery life gets devoured and half the time as AAc codec
Nice review. I just bought the xm3’s and this is pretty much spot on.
Can you turn off sidetone when using them for calls?
My left side is louder than my right and I had them for a few months. Is there anything I could do?
mine will be here tomorrow. so excited
Hey I am thinking about buying some should I get them form your experience
@@trevor8859 100% bro! They are fantastic
I use the XM4's outside and MAX's at home and the XM4's are more comfortable but the transparency mode and Noise-canceling is noticeably weaker than MAX and the XM4's sometimes doesn't work when it's freezing cold out. They are more comfortable with like 1 or 2 hour use and then around 4 hours they get very warm and I need to take them off.
any experience on how does ANC work against high frequency sounds?
Is it worth going from the qc35ii to the xm4? I have the qc35ii and am looking for something similar with better sound quality. From everything I've read, the qc35ii are more comparatively more comfortable but the xm4 have better sound quality. I wonder how much of an improvement it is, there is a place close to me that is selling the xm4 at a pretty good discount at the moment, I'm tempted.
It's hard to make a call, but perhaps you can try the Bose 700 as well. More modern looking and better than the QC 35 ii.
Between the Sony and the Bose it's basically the better ANC for Sony and then your sound preference. The Sony in general has more bass, and the Bose may sound nicer. But it's easiest if you can test both in the same shop.
Yes because Bose is dogshit.
At one point I would have thought I spent too much on my XM4s then I compared them to the AirPod max and I now know that I got a hell of deal.
Watching this with my xm4's. Love em. The multi device support just adds so much more use for me. Although I do wish they put a better mic in the next version. I use the mic far more often than I expected and I feel like its the only real weak point of these headphones.
Does XM4 causes a pain in ear? specially heating the ear when wearing for more than 1hr?
@@kasvith for me I start feeling minor discomfort on my ear after wearing them for more than 2-ish hours. I tend to wear them the whole day. After a whole day of wearing my ears will be sore. I have relatively narrow ears so someone with a different ear shape might feel discomfort sooner.
@@blinkingred i think this is common, i saw and heard it has this problem
What about the calls in a noisy environment?
@@ux_isra2934 Not the best. Its serviceable but the other person will have trouble hearing sometimes.
Im not thru the vid yet, but wanted to ask if this can connect via bluetooth to my PC and be effectively used as a headset?
Yes.
Could it be that the Sony headphones sound even worse on the iPhone because it doesn’t carry the LDAC which is a Sony-owned codec and possibly better tuned for it?
No. The CODEC isn’t specific to any device!
Agree with You, this Headphones with LDAC in Android Device is other Level of Sound
@@edwinrios6887 No. it really isn’t “another level”. It’s just a higher bitrate codec, which doesn’t matter for most things since AAC is psychoacoustic.
@@shadowios7033 Late reply, but ofc it is... Apple doesn't support Ldac. meaning it has far lower bitrate codecs. You can tell you own an iphone.
I just picked up a pair of XM-4's 2 day's ago; after my last headphone broke on me and my Sony Surround sound bar won't function correctly without lag on these new gen game console's. I gotta say I hated paying the price point for these, but these are the best headphones I've ever owned. I think the sound is incredibly crisp without any part of what I'm hearing being too distracting or intrusive. I can sacrifice a little bit of base for everything else this unit delivers.
Had to sell the XM3 because thanks to Covid19, I don't have to do long commutes and can just listen to speakers/pc headset at home. But when needed again, I know I'll look for the newest WH1000XM series. Especially now from XM4 on it finally supports multiple connections (2) at the same time.
I do hope Sony will improve the sound quality of the microphone with phone calls though. It only sounds acceptable when the conditions are right (not outside in windy conditions).
The ability to pair 2 devices simultaneously is a MAJOR benefit i.e. smartphone app + laptop or streaming device
Just bought surface headphones 2.... I'm a long-term user of the MDR1000X 1st gen and I tried the XM4's for 3 months and I found they were generally better sounding, but personally, the memory foam was uncomfortable for me compared to the plushy material on the 1st gen ones which were cushiony.
I also found a virtually negligible difference in noise cancellation in a typical cafe setting.
Secondly, I'm not a hardcore sound enthusiast and Surface headphones 2 provided the BEST user interface experience, plenty of equalizer control that makes a bloody big difference to audio quality, and the quick noise cancellation changeability instantaneously. Not to mention I'm doing a LOT of MS teams, and Zoom meetings so the mic quality and ability to hear yourself talking are key features for me personally.
Will these work fine on a Samsung smart tv?
just got these at a discount; still in honeymoon phase but the my first impression is that ambient and ANC are stellar.
Ordered as replacement for my 15y old wired SHP2000. Disappointment because of 35x the price and up to 40kHz - they sound almost the same. You can say Windows support and customization of Bluetooth audio codecs is poor at best. Although android LDAC sounds nice and has excellent range. Then there is this BIG issue of Bluetooth audio lag in shooting games which nobody wants to mention. Thankfully you can use input jack to get around that problem (headphones still have to be turned on and powered by battery).
Touch controls and noise cancelling are awesome.
I have the Sony Wh 1000xm4 and samsung s23. I have apple music settings to the highest quality. How can I listen to lossless? What DAC and/or aux cable do I need?
How do you charge them?
What about the latency?
Do they have Bluetooth multipoint? Ie pair to multiple devices.
How do they compare to the dt770? (Sound quality wise)
which one sounds better?
The dt770 is far better for sound quality, the sonys are boomy with recessed mids and messy treble. If you like the dt770 beyerdynamic have the Lagoon which is their wireless, anc headphone, its anc is not as good as the sony but they sound a lot better.
I had the xm3 & xm4, I love the xm4 headset and now I'm waiting for the xm4 ear buds
Literally just bought them. Listening to this on them. They are comfy as!!!
I have these and enjoyed them at first (they’re good for what they are) but when the air pods max came out I got them being an iphone user and haven’t used the Sonys since. The difference is that striking, the sound, comfort, convenience, I use them daily. That is value for money.
Why don't you use the Sonys anymore? I'm considering wanting to get the Sonys but trying to do my research forst
I’ve had these for like a month and I love them.
I have them since November 2020, the best headphones I ever had. Worth every penny.
I get a strong Adam Savage vibe from you but that's a good thing! Awesome video dude, and makes me miss Mythbusters lol. 👍
whats the view point on comparing these with bose 700
These were my first pair of headphones I've got over 300 and all I can say is I still use them now. They have been a delight and fulfill my needs. The duel pairing is also nice.
How long have you used them for? Are they durable ? thx
@@nicolaslajoierestrepo8176 I've had them since they came out so for about a few months. So for about 8 months. They have held up great. I use them everyday. Lol just make sure to clean the cups because grease or oil for your hands will show. But they look like new when clean.
@@corneliussmith5875 Thank you for the reply,
@@corneliussmith5875 can you turn off the noise cancelation?
@@fatguyalwayseats yes with the custom button or the Sony app
I bought the WF1000xm3 the TWB little brother of those and they are amazing, Bought on launch month, I have not had any issue with them other than when you are in a high 2.4ghz area like apartments where theres a lot of wifi or microwave (obviously) would i have issues with connection. I could go further than the advertised 30feet from the device with them, The battery life is insane to me, I would get close to my 8 hour shift at work out of them, comfy forget they are there. all in all would recommend them at there 230$ price tag i even use them on my laptop. wonderful little earbuds with impressive sound staging, its like a concert for you in your ears and the bass can tickle
Can i take calls on these? What’s the sound quality when I take Skype calls?
When you play with slightly more bass and highs, like it is setup to do. You improve music on lower volumes. In fact the old "loudness" mode on amplifiers were meant for playback on low volumes. Like evenings. It should have been called 'nightmode' :)
And as expected, playing on very low volumes, the sound is still very good. And a lot better for the ears.
LDAC is not showing on my app only AAC and SBC on my WH1000XM4 im using Sony xperia XZ2 Premium, but when im using my WFxm4, LDAC Shows, i hope youcan help me
getting them after my xm3s died. looking forward to having it
How do we fix the sound leakage issue? I hate that my XH1000-XM4 above 50% volume, everyone around me can hear really loudly what I'm listening to. But I love the headphones and how they feel, I don't want to have to return them because of that.
I haven't had that issue. Something like that would also impact how well the noise cancellation works. I'd try to see if you can get a more solid fit.
@@PAINFULLYHONESTTECH it's quite big on me since I've got small ears, so I don't think it'll fit any better unfortunately. I tried to ignore it, but having to listen to much lower volume because of it everywhere I go is kind of frustrating after paying a lot for the headphones
Sony had always had great wireless headphones. I like these a lot. Honestly I still use my 2nd gen AirPods most of the time for the convenience, but I’d recommend these.
deabating going gen 2 airpods or these lol
@@Justgambleit they’re supposedly coming out with a gen3 AirPods this year. Might want to hold off if you can.
@@Justgambleit just get the AirPod pros, they’re fantastic
you mentioned that there is no codec lack.... they have only Ldac and aac... and sbc - basic one.
I just bought these. I do have AirPod pros but I wanted a pair of over-the-ear headphones. I returned the AirPod Pro Maxs after 4 days. Too heavy and they would periodically cut out for just a second which isn’t acceptable for $550 headphones. Being able to put my hand over the right ear cup to temporarily cut the noise cancelling was a big selling point for me. It annoys me to take my headphones off every time someone starts talking to me at work. Why the f#*! can’t people just shut up?
I’m thinking about getting these I already have AirPods Pro
Can anyone tell me the phone call quality? Does it echo? Or any other Info thx
I find them muddy compared to my beloved M50BT, even if my Audio Technicas are not noise cancelling. I also wish they would change to more high quality materials and change their look to something more premium, after using the same formula year after year. I do find them comfortable though, always have with all the XM series.
Have you used the LDAC?
you can tune the eq to make it almost flat like the ATH
Do they leak sound?
How's the bass? I have bose 700s planning on gifting these rather than 700s to someone as I felt bass wasn't that great on 700s that's my only issue.
Very punchy
I love when audio TH-camrs use a proper mic setup, I mean it's an obvious but still many small TH-camrs don't seem to follow the norm, but decent mic are even available for 50 bucks 🙄
I have the MX4 and they are freaking awesome. Love them.
This is perfect with my Phantom Black S21 Ultra
When the AirPods Max came out, I thought about those, then ultimately grabbed these. Why? Because these are great for audiobooks and airplanes.
I'm hearing and reading that the Bose quiet comfort stands up well to these ? Does anyone know ?
Going from a cheap ass wired earbud to this headphone, it's like discovering a whole new realm, absolutely stunning! The only problem this headphone has is the mic, quite terrible, if I would say. I rarerly use the mic though, so it's not a big deal.
I ordered mine today and it'll be here in a week, excited to have this difference as well
is it possible to get another 3.5 mm to 3.5mm connector with a mic for these?
@@clueless6763 hope its not too late for my reply. and Yes, you can get another aux cable from third party and people do recommended V-MODA boom pro.
what is transparency?
Is the sound anything like the WH-1000XM3s? If they are then they are not for me. The sound for me on the XM3s was horrible out of the box and I have had to EQ them to compensate for the bad frequency response. The soundscape wasn’t good either IMO (way too narrow for my tastes). But if you found enjoyment in them out of the box sound signature, then that’s great.
I agreee.exactly this is why I wana say.xm3 have horrible vocal clarity and bloated bass into the mids.even after Eq them to the max treble I still felt they are not clear enough.why do people think more bass means better sound.for general use xm3s are not good at all.airpods max have the best clarity and controlled bass.xm3s dot even come close
Yep they're boomy and muddy like the xm3. A bit of eq can help but they shouldn't sound so bad out of the box.
I was lucky to get them on sale after Christmas at Best Buy and I feel like it was a solid purchase. Love the review.
I've got the XM4, and although I agree that the sound and noise cancelling is amazing, it's all those additional "features" that make me really dislike them.
Whenever I talk to someone, they automatically pause the video I'm watching and/or enable passthrough. I've tried turning it off, but the software is too buggy for that.
The voice assistance keeps loudly saying "Power On" or "Bluetooth Connect", and there is no way of turning this off or lowering the volume for it.
I keep accidently touching the touch controls, and again, you can't turn them off.
All I want from them is a On/Off buttom and connect to bluetooth. All the additional "Smart" features are just annoying.
Can someone just tell me how these sound for Metal/Rock music? Every single reviewer just seems to complete skip over these genre's. And I just don't understand why. I need to know this, because it's the main genre's of music I listen too. Someone help me out please!
Listening to this video on my new Sony WH1000XM4s
What’s the charge cable called?