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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.พ. 2022
- Welcome to Dean of Doom, the show where we give grades to classic and contemporary Doom wads. Why? Because ranking things is fun. Today’s episode will be dedicated to Good Morning Phobos, a megawad released in 2017 by sincity2100, a mapper best known for collaborating with dobu gabu maru on TNT: Revilution’s Fortress of Bullets. Now, you might be squinting at this crunchy titlepic thinking, ‘I dunno MtPain, this doesn’t look like much to me.’ Then, when I tell you sincity is a vocal fan of TNT Evilution, you might say, ‘Yeah, no thanks, I’ll pass on this one,’ but let me stop you before you do. Admittedly, sincity’s visual acumen isn’t his strongest suit, but mapping is a means to an end for him, and that end is high powered combat. Sincity’s best stuff evokes skillsaw’s arcadiness, the Casalis’ searing trapcraft, and the Speed of Doomers’ pure violence; I don’t make comparisons like these frivolously. If you’re looking for speed, intensity, and lots of carnage, look no further than Good Morning Phobos. Note that I’ll be covering the original version, NOT the 2021 re-release which contains three map replacements and several new MIDIs. Feel free to give that version a spin, but I’ve never played it myself.
Link to the megawad (2021 version):
www.doomworld.com/idgames/lev...
Special thanks to DCG Retrowave for providing the MIDIs! (Channel link: / @dcgretrowave )
Patreon:
/ mtpain27 - เกม
Wow, didn't think about seeing that earlier, thanks for giving my game a spotlight.. TBH some of the bugs in the original version due to me testing my maps on Zandurom, and there are some clunky stuff that I encountered on replay, this time I tested and made other friends test the wad for me for bugfixing, So I'm glad I made the re-release with fixing bugs and other stuff.. so I hope you enjoy my 2021 re-release..
You sir, can bet I'm playing the re-release. The Professor sold me pretty good on GMP. (Does it include any new text intermissions, though?)
Also, I sense a thumbtack incoming on this comment... 📌
EDIT: Don't you mean "Zandronum"?
@@DinnerForkTongue Well there are "new" intermissions, but they're held together with duct tape, I really written those in 3 minutes..
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Still better than seeing stock Doom II's texts for the eleventy billionth time 😉
Thanks for making GMP! It was a blast every time I booted it up, and was one of the wads that got me through last summer.
I can probably help you fix the slime trails without drastically changing your maps and it should work on all engines. where would you like to discuss this?
Everyone keeps saying "Good Morning" to Phobos, but no one actually say "Good Morning" to Deimos.
Good video btw, as usual.
Because in Hell there isn't a sun to set or rise.
If theres ever a sequel, thats what its gotta be named.
Alright, I'm going to come clean here. My map was originally based on a SLIGE generated map that I remade by hand. The linearity and boxy rooms/layout should have given you a clue. When I made this map, I was going through a phase of using generated maps as an idea base for my levels (I still kinda do cuz you know, I lack originality). Even though I respect sincity2100's decision to replace my map, I am still a bit hurt that he had to since it took me a while to make it in the first place despite it being a SLIGE recreation.
If that’s true then I’m impressed. Your revision looks quite nice, and that arch-vile fight at the end took me a while to figure out.
Ah, MtPain27 doing wads I've never heard of lately. This is a good thing, I like opening myself up to more wads.
The only crime that the remaster is guilty of for me is essentially having a title like this and not having Doom Guy looking like Robin Williams.
Oh, wow, you're just knocking 'em out one after another, aren't you? I'm not complaining, this is great. Always love seeing more of your vids.
I remember playing this megawad after finding it randomly on the forums. I was surprised that a complete, one-man-megawad had not that much of attention, so I played it and I had a lot of fun. MAP32: Divided Turmoil is one of my favorite secret maps.
Mt Pain, as you're aware, sincity actually replaced three maps in this megawad with three absolute scorchers - be sure to play them, because you'll be pleased with the end result. City of Endless Bloodlust and the new version of Midnight Train are superb. He also changed some of the midi picks as well as ironed out the bugs (including the broken teleporter closets in DZ II). This megawad will always hold a special place in my heart because it evokes the same feelings the original TNT did back when I played it as a kid. Also, huge thank you for reviewing this and bringing it to the doomers' attention. I feel this megawad really went unnoticed both times it released.
It fits, but it's really weird recognizing MAP32's midi from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney. He'd probably take Doomguy's case if the UAC took him to court, though, because we know Doomguy's innocent.
TH-cam: Hey, there's a new Dean of Doom episode out already.
My Brain: What? When did this happen? Is that a joke? THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!
I haven't even played this wad but the fact that Sincity2100 used Ace Attorney music in MAP32 alone makes me consider it a good map.
Map 31 uses "The Eruyt Village" from Final Fantasy 12
Cyberdemon: For England, James?
James Bond: No, for Daisy.
Wrong movie. D:)
@@ladymistdragon7287 Maybe, but I wanted to say it still.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAAAA... Oh wait, wrong media.
Glad to see your writer's block is over. I've never heard of this wad before, will try it ASAP.
All the mentions of Perdition's Gate make me think that there's a chance of a future episode on Perdition's Gate. I would enjoy that greatly.
You might want to check out Perdition's Gate Resurgence. Not complete yet, but hopefully soonish.
@@JeremyDoyleMusic
A rec from J. Doyle himself is high praise!
@@DinnerForkTongue well, full disclosure I wrote some of the music for Perdition's Gate Resurgence!
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Now more than ever, I cannot miss it c:
I thought you couldn't get any cooler but then you referenced Zoboomafoo, so.
Hearing of Zoboomafoo really took me back to my small child years.
That's what I'm calling a large group of Revenants from now on.
19:10 Whenever you see that effect of flats bleeding into your viewpoint, on top of other sectors, normally means that the entire linedef there is missing. However, in the case of this WAD, I couldn't find any fault with the map itself, so it must have been some node builder setting the author used when saving the map, causing it to create buggy nodes. In fact, if you use the Nodes Viewer tool in Doom Builder, you can see those particular linedefs you showcase have very strange subsectors right in front of them, which I think could be causing the bleeding you see. For example, line 904 (the one with the black flat bleeding into the grass) for some reason belongs to a subsector whose first seg corresponds to line 922 next to it (a very tiny line whose front side is part of the asphalt road next to the grass). Because subsectors are there to ensure the unobstructed view of map segments within the same subsector, this means the entire line bleeds the first seg's sector flat into your view. Same story goes for line 2718 you show there as well (whose subsector's first seg belongs to line 2407).
Then again, I could be wrong. Segs and Subsectors are a bit difficult to explain, so let's hope someone like Decino or Coincident make a video about them someday lol.
That's because SinCity was a Zandronum player when he made this original run of GMP. Zandronum's format has slightly different node building than Boom or ZDoom, enough to be noticeable but not to affect gameplay.
Each time I hear Death Bells, I feel that it and Wormhole are massively underrated.
Love when a map uses it, and even more when the wad also references TNT in some way too.
There is so much Doom out there - it can be overwhelming trying to decide what to try. I'm glad this series exists, especially when it's talking about the stuff I've never heard of. It's got a good amount of gameplay footage demonstrating the aesthetic look & gameplay style of a mapset along with a well-written script that conveys the intangible things about intensity & tone that one only gets from the actual experience of playing it. The quick pacing map-to-map keeps the videos from being a slog, and nearly all the digressions & gags land.
Thanks for shining a spotlight on and providing a vertical slice of so many different mapsets. As long as you're still having fun making videos, I'll keep showing up to class.
I always enjoy solo projects when the level design is competent. Keep them coming, Dean, and thank you for helping lesser known mappers get noticed with your series.
I was still watching your previous lastest video when this suddenly came up. This must be my lucky day!
You've been putting out some bangers lately, mister Pain... Keep it up!!
4 videos in such a short span of time, you are spoiling us man!
I am waiting for these WAD reviews :) Consider this.
1. Eternal Doom
2. Memento Mori I & II
3. Nova III
4. Akeldema
5. Deus Vault
6. Sunder
These are some of the ones there are more though :))
For sunder,there is no real point to review it now because I am sure we will have a final version someday.
Akeldema is great fun, some of the later maps are a bit long in the tooth tho
Some changes between this and the 2021 release:
M2 has been replaced with a new version called *The Barracks*
M3 got a midi replacement, same with maps 2, 4, 9, 10, 11, 15, 18, 19, 20, 25 and 30
M15 was fixed and 100% kills is possible
M19 has been replaced with a new version, title is the same
M25 has been replaced with a new version called *City of Endless Bloodlust*
M27 was fixed and 100% secrets is possible
Looks like another good set of maps to add to my Doom backlog, the Dean of Doom series has shown me there's tons of very good maps out there that I didn't even know existed.
Also that Skyfall joke got me good! XD
Not gonna lie, the opening joke on the Skyfall map got a chuckle out of me.
Hell's yes. Mt.Pain, giving me the reason to get out of bed. Lol
Holy crap you’re on a roll!
You've been on a roll recently MtPain. Amazing work. I haven't watched the Auger Zenith episode yet in full because I want to check it out for myself (the first mapping using One Night in Neo Kobe City as its midi absolutely sold me, on top of the 80s anime cyberpunk aesthetic), but I'm absolutely adding this to my backlog of Doom wads. I've never actually paid too much attention to TNT but seeing you and sincity gush about it makes me want to give it another shot. 😉
Was kinda having crappy today, saw a new vid. It's a much better day! Thank you MtPain27!
You and Decino have the most soothing voices to go along with watching Doom
Right alongside the now-retired Arbys550.
I'd have never even heard of this WAD if it wasn't for this channel and now I can't wait to play it - great stuff.
Ps. Would love to see your take on Doom64
The quality of your videos is incredible. The Doom community is lucky to have you!
Nice Glengarry Glen Ross reference mixed in there. Well done as usual, can't wait to play this wad!
I just recently came across this channel. Your videos are really well made. I'm surprised that you do not have more subscribers. Great quality content highlighting well known and lesser known WADs.
So I just played the final version of this wad for the first time, and I gotta say: the map replacements are gems. If you haven't played those, you're definitely missing out! MAP02 in particular is one of my top 3 maps of the wad, which can be largely attributed to its midi, one of my favorites in all of Doomdom. It's a simple map, but it carries all the character of the entire megawad. It flows really well, and is pretty easy, compared to the original MAP02, which creates a better difficulty curve. I highly recommend you revisit the replacements in your free time during the summer holiday, Dean. You won't regret it.
I’ll definitely check it out! I’ve meant to download the new version several times and it keeps slipping my mind.
Finally got around to playing the new maps, and they are outstanding. Hopefully I will feature them in a future Sawed-Off Wads episode.
I must confess to never being overly enthused by this author, however I will certainly give the 2021 revision a spin. The replacement is levels look pretty darn good. It is great to see more left field stuff get the spotlight it deserves.
This one isn't going to be very focused on the mapset on is going to be focused more on you Mr. Dean of DOOM. Now, for months i've been in a DOOM slump. Only really playing it because I feel like I owe it to the game. But because of your show I booted up Crispy DOOM with The Ultimate DOOM and played it on ultra violence, but I was still feeling really ehh. So it was when I downloaded a mapset called DOOM 404, I was playing it on hurt me plenty and using saves, on map 5 supershotgunning a cacodemon when it hit me. I was in that alert trance state that you were talking about in Community Chest 1. I'm going to be honest, I'm not good at DOOM, and the fact that I can never get past double digits of any modern mapset for DOOM really hurts my pride. But, it was playing a chiller, laid back mappack at my own pace that made me realize I don't need to be as good as you, you can pistol start The Plutonia Experiment on Ultra Violence for gods sake! So y'know what, fuck it, i'm going to quit acting like i'm as good as everyone else and admit that while I might be worse i'm having fun. EDIT: pace not taste
Good video! I like learning about "minor" Doom wads that usually fly under the radar when people talk about their favorites.
Loving your constant output!
Your'e my favourite youtuber right now!
This is an awesome WAD, Glad that you did it :)
oh professor a upload to help me cheer up after feeling sick for the entire week 😂😂
Awesome video man
Guess I'm playing through this on the weekend, nice.
Refreshing to see wads using HTP/PerdGate midis, always been a big fan of the music in those.
This is one of my favorite wads.
If I had a nickel for everytime I found a Doom WAD that used Eruyt Village from Final Fantasy XII... I would have two nickels but looking up the song on Doom Wiki, about half a dozen wads have used the song and I think its interesting that the theme is some sort of musical touchstone in the Doom community
That's because you can hardly get more dissonant than Eruyt Village's theme on a Doom map. The track is sweet and introspective, almost dream-like, and the contrast with Doom's speedy, gritty, tooth-clenching gameplay (the spicier the map the better) is egregious enough to hit cognitive dissonance on the player.
Great review, Dean.
Also, this MegaWAD's got noe of the best titles, and reference within, ever.
Any wad with Jazz/Jazz2 music in it is an instant pick for me.
Thanks for helping me add to my doom folder
OK, the timing is as impeccable as a cyberdemon's rocket to the face. I'm currently playing Good Morning Phobos with Guncaster 3.888b, and it's a fun wad, MAP31+32 are a bit of a slog though (no offence to sincity2100).
Edit: Just beat the map pack. MAP29 annoyed me with the "Last Call" color maze. still fun though
Another absolute banger
This series needs some more TCs!
I had the idea to create a list of TCs that would be fun to see on here.
1) Batman doom reborn ( this version of batman doom is better compatible with newer sourceports)
2) Rekkr: sunken island ( it's a standalone "remaster" of the 2018 cacowards winning wad Rekkr including a 4th episode. It's on steam and doesn't even cost 6$)
3) Chex quest 1,2,3 (a.k.a the chex marketing campaign that didn't deserve to be as good as it was!)
4) pirate doom ( dont know if this is more akin to a partial conversion but
It deserves to be here)
5) The Adventures of Square. Jimmy did very good work on that one, it's whimsical and fun while still visceral at points.
Also, didn't Chex Quest receive a Plutonia-class mapset recently? I think it's on pagb's channel.
Just a personal opinion: This wad is excellent and gives the right sense of TNT nostalgia to its fans.As for the negatives, I generally abhor the death exits, I find them more absolete than the "obligatory" icon of sin at map30.
What an honor roll this time! I definitely didn't expect that after the ratings on the first few maps. I'll definitely check out GMP.
Inching closer to a million views, good stuff Dean.
now all we need is the entirety of gen 0 recreated in boom
So since you seem to love TNT: Evilution and Civvie 11 abandoned his review of it, any chance of a crossover review with him? It would be hilarious having him come in as a guest delinquent.
MtPain: *begins to wax nostalgic about TNT: Evilution*
Civvie: "There's water on the ceiling!"
Seriously though, I think I would pay for tickets to see Dean of Doom featuring special guest CV-11, on loan from the Department of Special Corrections
you’re on fire dude, so much good content
This looks awesome. I think next time I hop on DOOM I'll give this a shot.
This wad had me with the hell to pay/perdition's gate midis, going to look into this
This wad has good taste in midis.
This is a good Thursday morning: coffee, some breakfast burritos, and a new DoD video.
Another vid, another instance of a WAD I have downloaded that I'm not sure I've played. I'm leaning towards "nope" after watching. These maps seem like they're really action packed! Lots of shots of a ton of enemies on screen at once. Seems like it would be a blast to play. Really liking the visual design as well. I personally can't get enough of CC4 textures. Overused? I mean, yeah, but they're awesome. I think I'll download the 2021 version once I'm done with that French trilogy you covered a little bit ago.
This WAD has some nice calming midis.
I think this is just my kind of wad, i do love me TNT evolution, and I'm down for this kind of frantic fight kind of fun! Keep up the great work UwU
Doom 64. Eh i lost the track of the attempts long ago XD
Map 5 was pretty tough solo, and when GMP was hosted for a Co-Op server on Zdaemon a few months ago with fast monsters, it was a chore to push through, even with six other players. I never finished this WAD all the way through, but I was thinking about Map 5 in particular a few days ago. It's funny you chose to review the WAD at this moment: feels like I'm being subliminally told to pick it up again.
I laugh in GzDoom every time you dodge chainsaw haha. Great episode ! Thanks to episodes like this i am slowly getting to create maps of my own. Hopefully one they I'll become as skilled as designer of this WAD it is clear to me that i just have to play it soon !
One of the best things in GZDoom: the "drop weapon" bind 😜
@@DinnerForkTongue nah, chainsaw is really awesome in gzdoom! Hit detection is way better plus you can sway left and right avoiding melee animations. Cacos,Pain Elemental,Arachnotrons sometimes Mancubi and Revenants go down easily.
After I finished this WAD I've had a tech base craving like I've never had before
Here I am commenting 16 minutes after this episode was uploaded because I was too busy rewatching the Speed of Doom episode.
I'm a filthy casual Doom player by all accounts, I'm not even on PC anymore. Yet there's something about this show that I can't get enough of.
Good music choice for Map 33. My favourite track.
This video made me check out GMP, but I gotta say, in the future I would suggest that if a wad has multiple versions with maps changing between releases, you should probably cover those extra maps at the end of the video, as a sort of bonus; due to covering this earlier version of GMP and showing me three maps the final release DOESNT have, you got me to track down the earlier release! Now I have extracted the three unique maps in this release and patched them on top of the second release for 36 GMP maps of glorious action :D
Fingers crossed that you'll cover 'The Barracks', 'Midnight Express V2' and 'City of Endless Bloodlust' alongside the original 'Valley of Echoes' from AV in a future Sawed-Off Wads :)
As always, great review!
13:48 - Always cracks me up when another game's soundtrack pops up in a megawad's MIDI files... Surprised you didn't make any puns about turnabouts or avoiding getting cornered...
Another Mt. Pain video to get me through my day
Having to go back and rewatch the section for MAP32 right now because I got completely dazed by the Phoenix Wright midi XD
I can just picture you chuckling to yourself as you replace the term "brainchild" with "masterchild." Top notch pun, and then the "Going to The Closet" reference right after had me in stitches
I actually said “bastard child”
@@MtPain27 welp, save that line for later use I guess, my mistake 😂 Upon further review its clearly "bastard" so idk how I came to that conclusion
Reviewing a wad like this is similar to digging up a hidden treasure, this is a good choice 👍
That Map 08 Torch Secret really reminds me of Doom II's torch secret to get the plasma rifle in the Waste Tunnels.
You're on a roll, my dude.
6:17 Oh yeah, love Dark Groove!
Hello Mt. Pain. Hope you have a good day.
I love TNT so I'm excited to play this.
Awesome as usual. Hey, Mtpain, I found a very interesting megawad with really neat idea. Its called "The long trek back home". The idea is you start in the Icon of sin level moments after you destroyed it and then you need to go back to the entryway level by level, but now levels are different in many interesting ways, some areas are demolished and debried, some new areas accessible through cave ins and so on. It was very fun playing and I definetely wish you will check it out (and maybe make a deanofdoom episode about it).
That sounds interesting. Guess I'll take a gander at it. Whether it's worth a DoD episode, only the Professor can say.
I'm currently playing this WAD casually. Great find on your part. I'm about to finish posting Three's a Crowd. If you get a chance, give that WAD a shot. The first 8 levels are a bit rough, but after that, it's a fantastic storytelling experience. Not many youtubers post videos on it, and it is truly an underrated gem. I'd love to hear your take on those 32 maps.
I just got back from beating TNT Evilution on UV with the midi pack (and a midi i made myself specifically for Mount Pain, because i'm too attached to into the beast's belly), and here comes Mtpain27 to present a wad from an Evilution fan...I was right. Omens are real.
As for this wad, I'm not sure if it'll sit with me due to my...general disinterest with Evilution, but i might put it on my wad bucket list just in case.
ZOOBOOMAFOO CLOSET
I was actually really expecting this to be a season 3 video
oh damn! another professor lecture another good half an hour of fun
also that's a nice nod to Lunar Mining Project 2:19
I still don't quite get it. If Lilith.pk3 and Ghoul 1, 2, and 3 were covered on this show but didn't receive a final grade, are they still gonna be in the inevitable Season 2 Graduation?
Oh well, fine work professor!
They get the seat of honor!
I hadn't really thought of it, but Lilith will definitely graduate, idk about Ghoul, since I didn't really review it
Consistant uploads once more. It really is season 1 again. Phobos yeah.
Loving it that you show some underrated gems some love on the dean of doom! Oh and as a question, what is your personal favourite DoD episode yet? Depending on your writing or which episode was the most fun to make.
I look back on Scythe 2 probably the most fondly but I have a few others I like as well
Good Morning Phobos, and good morning Dean of Doom!
Great Glengarry Glen Ross reference!
hearing an ace attorney midi in doom is one of the most jarring things I've experienced in a while
I really prefer the new map 19 midnight express.Heavily inspired by valiant tier 3 with some really nasty arch vile trap.
Hell yes!
Epic reference 20:35 Alec Baldwin reference in Glengary Glen Ross.
that Breaking Benjamin midi got me because I am 12 at heart
good shit
Lovin the consistent upload schedule but don't burn yourself out.
Also, if you like map 31's beginning then you'll love map 21 of Epic 2.
Plutonia2 and jj2 midis? with sod, pl2 references? this wad got a new player
Another one so soon?! Hooray! :^)