Uber wants drivers to treat it as a side hustle but Uber sure as hell doesn't. Its a multi billion dollar company for profit. Drivers need to be paid fairly.
@@BringBack2Center There is other ways they rip people off too. I accepted a reservation, for UberX, the rider cancelled the trip 45 minutes prior to the pickup. According to the terms of agreement the rider has to cancel no less than an hour before pick up or they have to pay a percentage of the fair and/or cancellation fee. Uber claimed I wasn't online 40 minutes prior to the pickup (lie) and when you contact driver care they play dumb and ask for all the information, screenshots etc. They are the biggest bunch of scumbags on the planet. They should be in jail.
@William Erazo I said the driver should get 80 and uber should get 20 for being the middle man. Even pay to play joe only takes 10 for being the big guy.
The most mind-boggling part of this is: The riders really don't care where their money is going. Drivers are just "the help" to them. This is demonstrated by the lack of tips.
Yup and lift doesn't care either it's all to make the stockholders happy. Once a company goes public it's all greed and to keep the board members happy
I decline a lotta rides. I let riders hang out til the money looks fair to me. If I'm looking for $2-3/mile, I could care less if a passenger paid $6k for the ride. They're the fools. I got what I wanted for the ride. 15 mile ride for $45 is fair for me. Only an idiot rider would pay top much for it. They can always ask a driver to use Cashapp to save money and pay us more than the apps pay us. The ball is in their court. Decline rides not worth your time.
@The Relay Times Yup! I have videos on my channel where I show How and Why I choose the rides I do. If it ain't lucrative, I don't cry. I skip that offer. It's a choice to take bad offers, so if someone is choosing em, that's on them not being smart business people. Not everyone is good at business. Not all businesses succeed. Some drivers think because they downloaded an app, they will automatically make $100k/yr driving. Not happening. Nobody is entitled to success. Rideshare will chew you up and spit you out if you don't know how to negotiate your time and effort. We're contractors that act like crybabies sometimes. Hahaha
These Uber and Lyft people are total thiefs ,Satan how tf you charge someone 100 and you give the driver 15 bucks The drivers pays for they own insurance,car expenses etc….
They always inflate numbers by saying bullshit like $30 an hour....that is ACTIVE hours not time you are driving TO the passenger and not time you are waiting for rides which is a large chunk of those hours so realistically you are hitting around 20-24 an hour and WITH expenses (because Uber and Lyft provide NO assistance with gas, insurance, or maintenance cost) you are ACTUALLY netting in your pocket around $12-17 an hour (depending on your car model) AND that is WITH COUNTING passenger tips. Imagine without, the numbers were be far more dismal. It is terrible this needs to change.
It's $7-$10 a hour $7-$10 a trip if your online under 10 hours is $7 a hour you work over 10 hours you'll get $10 a hour either way you'll spend $100 or more a day in gas and food with tiny adjustments... When you first start driving they trick you with big orders and adjustments... I've talked to countless drivers who thought they were going to make thousands starting off then pay got less and less... They keep playing around with the app adding nonsense to make you feel special about points...
Uber says insurance has gone up. But driver's insurance has also increased as well! I stop driving because the pay started going down. The Quests are now trash, and they have also decreased the bonus zone area, the surges are a joke they trick you to come online or drive to that area only for the surge to go down in price or disappear... Greed on Uber and Lyft will be its downfall
Yes. Lyft sent me absolute garage for craxy miles. Meanwhile passengers will find it hard to get a ride. I have been told by many passengers it is not hard to get a ride. Gee. I wonder why
The only reason Uber exists is in it's future business structure. Uber is hedging on the future of unmanned electric vehicles. Then they won't even have to pay a driver. That's their end goal.
uber is barely profitable with the drivers paying for all their own cars and maintenance. U think uber having to accept all liability for whatever happens on a ride in an autonomous car will keep them profitable? also u think these electric cars are gonna type in a gate code in order to enter these gated communities? there will never be autonomous cars working for uber unless the drivers sign up and allow their own autonomous cars to be used while they sit at home. if a autonomous car gets a flat it will pull over and you will have to go change the tire or retrieve it. a human will drive slowly to the nearest shop, replace the tire and keep working. bottom line is it will never happen.
This is incredible. The rates for passengers is insane but what they’re actually paying drivers is criminal. They’re often seeing minimum wage and below.
it goes both ways the rides are actually priced to cheap when it doesnt surge and the pax feel enetiled to cheap rides and still dont tip, when the ride should cost more in the first place so the driver can take more, then they stgeal money when it surges, basically they do to little then to much no in between
So if this is true about insurance being so high then why arent they charging the rider 150.00 for every ride regardless of surge price? They are Liars!!!!!!
On average lyft/uber have increased the price to the passengers by 30% ... AND CUT the drivers by 20% all the while knowing that drivers costs have increased. Uber is trying to sell that same old lie about $30 an hour .... 1. that is before the drivers cost to drive. It's the gross take not the net. 2. it can be up to $30 an active hour of driving ... meaning only when we have someone in the car we are making $30 ... that does NOT take into account time spent waiting on a ride OR going to pick up a rider ... also ... drivers use to be paid a flat $25 for a trip from New Orleans to the Airport ... The passengers were charged $45 ... the Passengers are STILL paying $45 however the drivers are now getting on average $15 ... which means Uber/lyft are keeping $30 out of that $45.
It's time TO CROWD FUND AND MOVE ON. We have to BREAK UP THE RIDESHARE DUOPOLY. We need to bring competition. UBER LYFT don't care . It's only going to get worse. It's time to organize and crowdfund to start a NEW RIDESHARE COMPANY. We are already doing it here in Chicago. Drivers here we are CROWDFUNDING to start a new company. Drivers pay membership fee and keep 100 %earnings. This fall we will get rid of UBER/LYFT. With Drivers keeping 100%and lower priced r rides . It'll be over for UBER/LYFT..
Just remember Uber is set up for the future. They are banking on driverless vehicles becoming the core of their operation. No drivers to pay. Uber wins big in business.
Whatever Uber is charging you chances are theyre only paying the driver like 1/4th that amount their basically being taken advantage of and as a result customers are learning this and are just finding alternatives to taking an Uber, affectively hurting BOTH parties Uber and the Driver as a results of Ubers GREED, Uber gets a nice sprint of profits for a short term but its just a terrible long term play!! Other companies can learn from this, gig workers will cause too much of an uproar at a boiling point causing tons of issues for your company and killing the profits you thought you had. ITS sad to see instead of letting us all make good money now possibly NONE of us will if this continues!!
You are correct. Too many people relying solely on Uber as a career. Uber was never meant to be a full time job. It was supposed to be a side hustle people did in their spare time.
We need to shut them down like bud light. They offer 2 and 3 dollar bonuses on a 4 dollar ride. The passenger pays 30 driver gets 6 then they offer you 3 dollars like you really don't know they just giving you back what they stole.
At what point did people think that picking up hitchhikers was going to be a career? That used to pay $0. Now the app lets hitchhiker contribute to you offsetting your driving expenses. That is not a job.
No. If that’s the case, the government would not have allowed this app to begin with. It’s “ridesharing”, break that down. You are simply sharing the cost of your ride with another person, basically picking up hitchikers during your drive who are throwing you some gas money to pick them up.
The airport charges 5$ per pick up Uber and lift give you 4$ how the hell does that make sense why do people pay to drive for others is this charity or just preset up work so when there is driverless cars they have a political foothold on the market!? Do y’all not see this is what’s happening
Total bs from lyft and Uber. I ask all my riders how much they paid. Lyft takes up to 70 percent of the money. They are greedy. Glad drivers are waking up. Gas is back up and they not responding to higher fares. Wait until the drivers quit. It's coming faster than they think. It's only a matter of time before another company comes and treats drivers better and take their bags away forever.
A lot of what I make goes right back into the gas tank. I need an oil change, rent is due, utilities past due. I worked tonight, did 13 rides made $69 on Lyft. I put $15 in gas just to be able to get home. Tomorrow I will work again.. if I give 8 more rides, I get a bonus. Its the carrot in front of the donkey. Its so hard to get the number of rides done in the time frame to get that bonus. Uber pays more than Lyft, but in order to get get that bonus, I must do 50 rides.. we only have 3 days to get all those done.. its so hard. On Lyft a lady paid $40 for a ride, I got $11.99. She was livid..
This is rideshare. You are getting paid to share your ride with someone. Before rideshare, you got paid $0 to drive, now you are compensated for doing the driving you were previously doing for $0.
Uber and Lyft needs to be prosecuted for fraud. Neither company pays the drivers what they’re to be paid. They steal wages and tips. Driver aren’t independent contractors.
@The Relay Times If it were a business, drivers would 💯 control! That means drivers would control how much they make, the fares, as well as everything else. Yes they’re independent contractors on paper but in real life, no.
I remember when i first started driving, all pickups were short. Now they be sending you 15 to 20 minutes out talking about pay includes pick up No it doesn't 😂
Fun fact: Don't turn on the Uber app. "You don't make money, Uber don't make money." And, why should they. We all have to be okay with Uber not making money. This means drive for Uber less or don't drive at all. "If no one is driving, who's the real boss?!" Think about that 🤔 Uber can't steal your money if your not on the app.
@@DixiePokerAce lol come work for me as a contractor, bring your car ill pay you enough to keep the tank full and maybe get lunch but its just a side hustle so its all good. so I got you down for 25 hrs next week.
Focus more on weekly earnings? I've put THOUSANDS of miles a week for your bullshit app and made less than $24/hr. It takes 2m5 gallons and hour to run my car. That's $10/hr to drive. That means I'm making $14/hr before the extra insurance and upkeep. Minimum wage is $15... Now I have a car I can't afford without a second job because I bought it to do Uber. Money was g9od the first year. $31/hr. But (no joke) I make $17/hr on Lyft this week. And that's not counting gas...
Lots of mistakes made there. Who buys a car for Uber? Big mistake. Sell the car, get a job at McDonalds,. You will make way more money than the situation you put yourself in. This is supposed to be rideshare, basically offsetting your costs you were going to pay anyhow for driving someplace alone. By sharing your rides, the other person will help you offset those costs of driving to your destination.
@@therelaytimeswe see you're on here trolling drivers cause you ain't got no job 😂. Tell yo mama what's up for me, maybe it's time to leave her house and get your own place
Food for thought: I was one of the original for Lyft/Uber in San Francisco. I was making easily $50/hr easily because there weren't many drivers and customers hated using Taxis. At a young age, I was making pretty good money, no benefits and a car that seemed to run forever. Fast forward a few years, more people wanted to be drivers cause of the perks of high pay and freelance work schedule. The more mainstream ridesharing became the more affordable the rides had to become in order to attract more people to use it. This meant more driving with no passengers in the car and less money to around because of how many drivers-to-demand ratios. If you file your taxes properly, you will learn that its not a lot of money to be made esp when you can't see the wear and tear on the car. When my car finally broke down, it was hard for me to finance a new car cause they didn't consider gig workers as a "real job." so I had to rent a car each week which took 25% of my profits. I finally stopped driving during the lockdown. I needed to make the change. My point is these "jobs" are not designed for long term sustainability. The real perk of this job is no accountability and practically no requirement to join aside from having a car and pulse. These companies aren't even profitable, so they won't prioritize drivers since there will always be people who want to make a quick buck for less. Being a gig worker for so long has spoiled me and the transition back to normal sucked! But starting from the bottom and working over a year I'm finally starting to see the light. There are jobs available in most markets but people don't want to do them. Invest in yourself!
If my health was 100% like before and I want it to drive for a living I would be a commercial driver and make real money comlare to this chump change uber pays these people have options class A or B license will get you more pay.
You make about 30-40% less than minimum wage after expenses. So if the minimum wage is $15. You average $10 an hour driving for Uber or Lyft. Or $100 for every 200 miles driven.
Drivers should get 80%. It’s not fair that Uber disrupted taxi & limo business which paid well and now is keeping so much money. It’s not going to be sustainable when these people quit losing money.
Yeah I feel bad for them, they should get paid more and pos corporate needs to take their heads out of the clouds and pay those who actually work and use their own gas and car
This same Greed taken over Uber is coming for the middle classes as well so I would think twice about being soft on these giants while there's still a chance. AI will revolutionize and replace over 50% of the workforce in the coming decade.
After scrolling down the long list of comments, this is the only reasonable comment in the entire thread so far. If the US was a full-blown socialist nation, then quitting wouldn't be much of an option; but since was are still sort of free, people could quit and find a better job (although ride sharing is not a job). Victimhood is very popular.
Uber/Lyft may be the greediest business ive ever seen. I dont think ive ever felt more insulted by a corp. 🛑🛑🛑🛑 Theyve made Billions by taking advantage of ppl... And they use things like insurance and other cost as the excuse..... They use the law... As their barrier
As an Uber Eats driver, the only way for us to win is by declining all offers until the compensation is reasonable. And I've noticed that the higher the customer tip, the less compensation they give you. They are pretty much relying on the customer tip to pay you so they can keep all the profits for themselves.
Uber and Lyft are fraudulent organizations who own a monopoly on rideshare industry and taking advantage of americans in an unregulated market. These companies invest in politicians, the only way to bring about change is majority of drivers and all advocacy groups need to draft and support a single bill before congress. Uber and Lyft have the money to lobby politicians, the people have the votes to elect these same politicians, CAPISH??. Pls Note: US market is most profitable for Uber and Lyft, they're not going anywhere.
7ber and Lyft is forcing these people into making these just side gig. Even then it not worth it. The algorithm favor people on all the time. It won't give someone that get on sometimes. And honestly this isn't worth a part time hustle too. This numbers doesn't add up a net positive. Drivers end up eating too much of the cost. Uber and Lyft knows this. STOP USING THIS SERVICE! I would much rather have them lost then I lose my income here.
Yes but there greed never ends, if they could pay you 10 cents an hour and they could get away with it they would do it! Extreme side of capitalism is what will destroy Uber and the United States because every corporation is doing this in one way or another now.
Their insurance is A small percentage of each trip that is taken out of the booking fee... This whole high insurance lie is A more recent excuse Uber has been using to justify taking 70-80% of each fare.
You can only pay everyone involved from what the rider has paid. If a rider is charged $100 for an airport ride and the driver receives $52, then the remaining $48 is split between the insurance for the ride, the local taxes and fees, the airport flat fee, and Uber.
This is not supposed to be a job. Just share your ride to wherever you were going to drive anyhow, that way anything you get is better than driving the alone. Message boards show a lot of the professional drivers are just homeless people, they sleep in their cars, pay for a 24 hour access self storage and a gym membership for showers. So that is the pay scale that is being offered. A person looking to live above those means should not look into sharing their rides as a primary income. This is a homeless level “career”.
Before they stole the taxi company they were good jobs. This is just the beginning of all jobs becoming this way, Wal-Mart replaced by Amazon and soon no jobs . Twitter just laid off 80% . Just wait, lawyers and real-estate, bankers digital currency . doctors replaced by zoom and Chat Gpt will get em
I actually own the 2nd largest house in my neighborhood based on the comps. Bought it in 2019. I do rideshare and that's it. ...plus my pool is 9ft deep instead of 8ft. If this is the level of homeless, I hope you're doing better than me. Lol
I work for a local car service in NY. I paid them 80 dollar weekly why Uber don’t do the same thing. Uber should charge every driver 80 Dollar weekly. But Uber want all the money. 😂😂
Actually that last ride for 17.86 i would take. 5 minute pickup 23 minute drop off. Drop off a little longer than I'd like but what if do after that is take a short trip for like 5 to 10 to kinda boost it if it makes sense. But it has to be a low minute pickup and drop off
@@jessicamckenzie6296 oh yeah dang that is a rip off. Lux pays way more. Well should pay more. But if I was the lux driver I still would've taken it hoping for a good tip 😂. But yeah for the gas in those things that ain't nothing though
If drivers don't like the low pay, get a new source of income. They're independent contractors. I don't blame drivers not wanting to take those low ball offers but these companies are greedy like it's always been.
I was upset at my low pay on my last job, but I knew what the pay was when I took the job. And guess what I did ???? I quit and got a better paying job. No one if forced to work for Uber or Lyft.
Sharing a personal anecdote about quitting a low paying job isn’t helpful or relevant. A major corporation is ruthlessly and possibly illegally exploiting its workers. This is a real problem that requires people standing up and protesting LOUDLY. With bullies like Uber this is the only way to force change. It’s much bigger than one person’s life - these drivers are standing up for the greater good not just worrying about themselves. I applaud them.
Drivers make 19 percent of rider fee???????? Garbage. These numbers don't mean much to non drivers but I ASSURE U THIS SI CRAAAAAPPPP. Fire the ceo's. NOT ALL DRIVERS MAKE 30 AN HOUR. MOST DONT. DONT BE FOOLED
It’s a fact that they are price gouging passengers and paying less to drivers so soon we are going to see negotiations between passenger and driver (no Uber) (no lyft) cut the middleman out. You wait and see
how they want fair pay when they are not professional drivers. unlike bus Operators who have special training to be able to operate buses and people. this so cal uber and lyft drivers are nomal regular people with no training or special skills just driving aroung people. even Taxi drivers have some special training.
Uber is totally ripping these people off. Best of luck to them. Uber's founder, Travis Kalanick, is a true piece of work. Google the creep sometime.
The new ceo Dara K is even worse
The new ceo is worse
@@therelaytimesu are definitely an uber Dk Rider
@The Relay Times you will find out shortly
How can Uber and Lfty get away with this they should all go to jail
Treasonous politicians obviously
Cuz the drivers are allowing it
Some one is getting paid, that’s why they are getting away with that
STOP SAYING EVERYONE YOU DISAGREE WITH SHOULD BE THROWN IN JAIL !!! Are you mental? Or just fascist?
As I drive I stopped driving my acceptance rating is at 1%
Uber wants drivers to treat it as a side hustle but Uber sure as hell doesn't. Its a multi billion dollar company for profit. Drivers need to be paid fairly.
@The Relay Times lol are u a shill for Uber. You sound mad. I have documentation that they take to much and cap driver earnings.
@@BringBack2Center There is other ways they rip people off too. I accepted a reservation, for UberX, the rider cancelled the trip 45 minutes prior to the pickup. According to the terms of agreement the rider has to cancel no less than an hour before pick up or they have to pay a percentage of the fair and/or cancellation fee. Uber claimed I wasn't online 40 minutes prior to the pickup (lie) and when you contact driver care they play dumb and ask for all the information, screenshots etc. They are the biggest bunch of scumbags on the planet. They should be in jail.
@@BringBack2Center Exactly, passengers are even starting to notice.
Lyft and Uber are the shadiest companies around
19 % to the driver it should be the other way around. Greed never surprises me anymore. Profit has become a dirty word.
That’s crazy. They don’t provide the cars to be getting 80% of the fare
WELL SAID
@William Erazo I said the driver should get 80 and uber should get 20 for being the middle man. Even pay to play joe only takes 10 for being the big guy.
@The Relay Times The only person who knows nothing is you!
@The Relay Times every one in the mix is running a business. the driver and uber/lift
The golden day of Uber been over. My friends used to earn close to six figures driving almost half in the 2010s.
The most mind-boggling part of this is: The riders really don't care where their money is going. Drivers are just "the help" to them. This is demonstrated by the lack of tips.
Yup and lift doesn't care either it's all to make the stockholders happy. Once a company goes public it's all greed and to keep the board members happy
Passenger don’t care about you they just want cheap rides even if the ride is 1 dollar I bet half of them still don’t tip
Not to mention …they’re stealing our tips also.
I had a passanger pay $270. I was paid $54. Criminal.
It’s not your money.
Don't drive for Uber. Plenty places around New Orleans are hiring.
@@therelaytimesyou are a hater clearly
I decline a lotta rides. I let riders hang out til the money looks fair to me. If I'm looking for $2-3/mile, I could care less if a passenger paid $6k for the ride. They're the fools. I got what I wanted for the ride. 15 mile ride for $45 is fair for me.
Only an idiot rider would pay top much for it. They can always ask a driver to use Cashapp to save money and pay us more than the apps pay us. The ball is in their court.
Decline rides not worth your time.
@The Relay Times Yup! I have videos on my channel where I show How and Why I choose the rides I do. If it ain't lucrative, I don't cry. I skip that offer. It's a choice to take bad offers, so if someone is choosing em, that's on them not being smart business people.
Not everyone is good at business. Not all businesses succeed. Some drivers think because they downloaded an app, they will automatically make $100k/yr driving.
Not happening. Nobody is entitled to success. Rideshare will chew you up and spit you out if you don't know how to negotiate your time and effort. We're contractors that act like crybabies sometimes. Hahaha
I was driving for Uber 2015-2019 no worth at all.😡
Uber no care about drivers.
No corporation cares about labor
We all Uber should stay strong and protest this problem nationwide
Its fact even in washington dc these tech companies low pay is ridiculous. Only in great country of America companies can exploit workers.
Lmao you must never been in a third world country . 🤣
These Uber and Lyft people are total thiefs ,Satan how tf you charge someone 100 and you give the driver 15 bucks
The drivers pays for they own insurance,car expenses etc….
They always inflate numbers by saying bullshit like $30 an hour....that is ACTIVE hours not time you are driving TO the passenger and not time you are waiting for rides which is a large chunk of those hours so realistically you are hitting around 20-24 an hour and WITH expenses (because Uber and Lyft provide NO assistance with gas, insurance, or maintenance cost) you are ACTUALLY netting in your pocket around $12-17 an hour (depending on your car model) AND that is WITH COUNTING passenger tips. Imagine without, the numbers were be far more dismal. It is terrible this needs to change.
It's $7-$10 a hour $7-$10 a trip if your online under 10 hours is $7 a hour you work over 10 hours you'll get $10 a hour either way you'll spend $100 or more a day in gas and food with tiny adjustments... When you first start driving they trick you with big orders and adjustments... I've talked to countless drivers who thought they were going to make thousands starting off then pay got less and less... They keep playing around with the app adding nonsense to make you feel special about points...
Not to mention surge baiting
Uber says insurance has gone up. But driver's insurance has also increased as well! I stop driving because the pay started going down. The Quests are now trash, and they have also decreased the bonus zone area, the surges are a joke they trick you to come online or drive to that area only for the surge to go down in price or disappear... Greed on Uber and Lyft will be its downfall
If the ride is low mileage, they barely pay you more dollars than the mileage, if it's long minutes, they pay you less than half in dollars
Yes. Lyft sent me absolute garage for craxy miles. Meanwhile passengers will find it hard to get a ride. I have been told by many passengers it is not hard to get a ride. Gee. I wonder why
Facts! Shows on my videos exactly what you're saying.
@@KimikoMaui I decline and pass up a lot of garbage offers
The only reason Uber exists is in it's future business structure. Uber is hedging on the future of unmanned electric vehicles. Then they won't even have to pay a driver. That's their end goal.
When will that be? Not anytime soon. Autobots are not going to the suburbs and pick up people
uber is barely profitable with the drivers paying for all their own cars and maintenance. U think uber having to accept all liability for whatever happens on a ride in an autonomous car will keep them profitable? also u think these electric cars are gonna type in a gate code in order to enter these gated communities? there will never be autonomous cars working for uber unless the drivers sign up and allow their own autonomous cars to be used while they sit at home. if a autonomous car gets a flat it will pull over and you will have to go change the tire or retrieve it. a human will drive slowly to the nearest shop, replace the tire and keep working. bottom line is it will never happen.
Unmaned vehicleswill never work because now the vehicle expenses and Injury liability is passed on from driver to Uber.
Lots of passengers have zero interest in riding in an unmanned vehicle. I was behind one the other day that had no brake lights. It was almost dark.
They will have to buy the auto pilot cars, gl to them
This is incredible. The rates for passengers is insane but what they’re actually paying drivers is criminal. They’re often seeing minimum wage and below.
it goes both ways the rides are actually priced to cheap when it doesnt surge and the pax feel enetiled to cheap rides and still dont tip, when the ride should cost more in the first place so the driver can take more, then they stgeal money when it surges, basically they do to little then to much no in between
"Focus more on the weekly earnings" how arrogant is that statement.
@therelaytimes get a job dude 😅 better yet its time to leave yo mama's basement
Only way to get Uber attention is to stop driving. Without drivers Uber don’t exist
So if this is true about insurance being so high then why arent they charging the rider 150.00 for every ride regardless of surge price? They are Liars!!!!!!
On average lyft/uber have increased the price to the passengers by 30% ... AND CUT the drivers by 20% all the while knowing that drivers costs have increased.
Uber is trying to sell that same old lie about $30 an hour ....
1. that is before the drivers cost to drive. It's the gross take not the net.
2. it can be up to $30 an active hour of driving ... meaning only when we have someone in the car we are making $30 ... that does NOT take into account time spent waiting on a ride OR going to pick up a rider ...
also ... drivers use to be paid a flat $25 for a trip from New Orleans to the Airport ... The passengers were charged $45 ... the Passengers are STILL paying $45 however the drivers are now getting on average $15 ... which means Uber/lyft are keeping $30 out of that $45.
It's time TO CROWD FUND AND MOVE ON.
We have to BREAK UP THE RIDESHARE DUOPOLY. We need to bring competition.
UBER LYFT don't care .
It's only going to get worse.
It's time to organize and crowdfund to start a NEW RIDESHARE COMPANY.
We are already doing it here in Chicago. Drivers here we are CROWDFUNDING to start a new company. Drivers pay membership fee and keep 100 %earnings.
This fall we will get rid of UBER/LYFT.
With Drivers keeping 100%and lower priced r rides . It'll be over for UBER/LYFT..
Just remember Uber is set up for the future. They are banking on driverless vehicles becoming the core of their operation. No drivers to pay. Uber wins big in business.
Yup
Whatever Uber is charging you chances are theyre only paying the driver like 1/4th that amount their basically being taken advantage of and as a result customers are learning this and are just finding alternatives to taking an Uber, affectively hurting BOTH parties Uber and the Driver as a results of Ubers GREED, Uber gets a nice sprint of profits for a short term but its just a terrible long term play!!
Other companies can learn from this, gig workers will cause too much of an uproar at a boiling point causing tons of issues for your company and killing the profits you thought you had. ITS sad to see instead of letting us all make good money now possibly NONE of us will if this continues!!
I mean they literally admitted in business news.... that they had to take more from the driver last few months to not loose profits.
RIders don't tip because the fare is so high and they think it's going to the driver.
Its time to find a new skill. The amound of drivers we have now, is what makes them able to do this. Understand that.
You are correct. Too many people relying solely on Uber as a career. Uber was never meant to be a full time job. It was supposed to be a side hustle people did in their spare time.
Lift says, don't focus on your trip fare, focus on your weekly earnings, THIS IS A JOKE!!!
Totally in support of such strikes! Government and Federal trade comission should really act upon the pricing and safety of the drivers!
Pay the drivers
@therelaytimes 😂😂 bruh stop trolling fool.. did uber and lyft hire you or something
Uber has taken a lot more over the past couple of years.
We need to shut them down like bud light. They offer 2 and 3 dollar bonuses on a 4 dollar ride. The passenger pays 30 driver gets 6 then they offer you 3 dollars like you really don't know they just giving you back what they stole.
At what point did people think that picking up hitchhikers was going to be a career? That used to pay $0. Now the app lets hitchhiker contribute to you offsetting your driving expenses. That is not a job.
No. If that’s the case, the government would not have allowed this app to begin with. It’s “ridesharing”, break that down. You are simply sharing the cost of your ride with another person, basically picking up hitchikers during your drive who are throwing you some gas money to pick them up.
The airport charges 5$ per pick up Uber and lift give you 4$ how the hell does that make sense why do people pay to drive for others is this charity or just preset up work so when there is driverless cars they have a political foothold on the market!? Do y’all not see this is what’s happening
Since when Uber started to SCAM it's drivers ? 😅
Year 2021 😢
Uber doesnt believe their own bs 🤣
Total bs from lyft and Uber. I ask all my riders how much they paid. Lyft takes up to 70 percent of the money. They are greedy. Glad drivers are waking up. Gas is back up and they not responding to higher fares. Wait until the drivers quit. It's coming faster than they think. It's only a matter of time before another company comes and treats drivers better and take their bags away forever.
A lot of what I make goes right back into the gas tank. I need an oil change, rent is due, utilities past due. I worked tonight, did 13 rides made $69 on Lyft. I put $15 in gas just to be able to get home. Tomorrow I will work again.. if I give 8 more rides, I get a bonus. Its the carrot in front of the donkey. Its so hard to get the number of rides done in the time frame to get that bonus. Uber pays more than Lyft, but in order to get get that bonus, I must do 50 rides.. we only have 3 days to get all those done.. its so hard. On Lyft a lady paid $40 for a ride, I got $11.99. She was livid..
This is rideshare. You are getting paid to share your ride with someone. Before rideshare, you got paid $0 to drive, now you are compensated for doing the driving you were previously doing for $0.
Uber and Lyft needs to be prosecuted for fraud. Neither company pays the drivers what they’re to be paid. They steal wages and tips. Driver aren’t independent contractors.
@The Relay Times If it were a business, drivers would 💯 control! That means drivers would control how much they make, the fares, as well as everything else. Yes they’re independent contractors on paper but in real life, no.
I remember when i first started driving, all pickups were short. Now they be sending you 15 to 20 minutes out talking about pay includes pick up
No it doesn't 😂
3 dollars a trip, I will never drive again
Fun fact: Don't turn on the Uber app. "You don't make money, Uber don't make money." And, why should they. We all have to be okay with Uber not making money. This means drive for Uber less or don't drive at all. "If no one is driving, who's the real boss?!" Think about that 🤔 Uber can't steal your money if your not on the app.
Many people do it for a living
@Malcome Smiith It was never meant to be that way. Uber was supposed to be a side hustle NOT a full time gig to support your family entirely.
@@DixiePokerAce lol come work for me as a contractor, bring your car ill pay you enough to keep the tank full and maybe get lunch but its just a side hustle so its all good. so I got you down for 25 hrs next week.
Focus more on weekly earnings? I've put THOUSANDS of miles a week for your bullshit app and made less than $24/hr. It takes 2m5 gallons and hour to run my car. That's $10/hr to drive. That means I'm making $14/hr before the extra insurance and upkeep. Minimum wage is $15... Now I have a car I can't afford without a second job because I bought it to do Uber. Money was g9od the first year. $31/hr. But (no joke) I make $17/hr on Lyft this week. And that's not counting gas...
Plus Uber talking bout insurance… it’s our car we pay insurance and repair cost
Lots of mistakes made there. Who buys a car for Uber? Big mistake. Sell the car, get a job at McDonalds,. You will make way more money than the situation you put yourself in. This is supposed to be rideshare, basically offsetting your costs you were going to pay anyhow for driving someplace alone. By sharing your rides, the other person will help you offset those costs of driving to your destination.
😮11 dollars for 30 minutes????? That is robbery 😮
Big facts
Here in Charleston the local yellow cab just went out of business after over 65 years in service. Very few option for riders or drivers.
Good. These companies are greedy. They raise price astronomically during events and certain hours but drivers get pennies? Thats BS
Not only lift drivers but Uber delivers!!!
Wow they only get $30 of a $150 ride?
Lyft and Uber do this at every event
When u get a rider uber takes more then half the fair they make more off ur trip then u do its discussing thief’s….they are liars
@@therelaytimeswe see you're on here trolling drivers cause you ain't got no job 😂. Tell yo mama what's up for me, maybe it's time to leave her house and get your own place
I agree with them a 1000% Uber and Lyft takes too much % like 45% to 60% of fees. They take too much from us. It's hard for all the drivers
Passengers pay $100. I got $40.
Food for thought: I was one of the original for Lyft/Uber in San Francisco. I was making easily $50/hr easily because there weren't many drivers and customers hated using Taxis. At a young age, I was making pretty good money, no benefits and a car that seemed to run forever. Fast forward a few years, more people wanted to be drivers cause of the perks of high pay and freelance work schedule. The more mainstream ridesharing became the more affordable the rides had to become in order to attract more people to use it. This meant more driving with no passengers in the car and less money to around because of how many drivers-to-demand ratios. If you file your taxes properly, you will learn that its not a lot of money to be made esp when you can't see the wear and tear on the car. When my car finally broke down, it was hard for me to finance a new car cause they didn't consider gig workers as a "real job." so I had to rent a car each week which took 25% of my profits. I finally stopped driving during the lockdown. I needed to make the change.
My point is these "jobs" are not designed for long term sustainability. The real perk of this job is no accountability and practically no requirement to join aside from having a car and pulse. These companies aren't even profitable, so they won't prioritize drivers since there will always be people who want to make a quick buck for less.
Being a gig worker for so long has spoiled me and the transition back to normal sucked! But starting from the bottom and working over a year I'm finally starting to see the light. There are jobs available in most markets but people don't want to do them. Invest in yourself!
You know a few smart drivers hung around until there was finally a good surge and took it. Lol
If my health was 100% like before and I want it to drive for a living I would be a commercial driver and make real money comlare to this chump change uber pays these people have options class A or B license will get you more pay.
You make about 30-40% less than minimum wage after expenses. So if the minimum wage is $15. You average $10 an hour driving for Uber or Lyft. Or $100 for every 200 miles driven.
Drivers should get 80%. It’s not fair that Uber disrupted taxi & limo business which paid well and now is keeping so much money. It’s not going to be sustainable when these people quit losing money.
@@therelaytimeswe see you got no life. Love trolling trolls like you fool
Yeah I feel bad for them, they should get paid more and pos corporate needs to take their heads out of the clouds and pay those who actually work and use their own gas and car
10 $4-$6 orders that's 20x or more having to start your car for $40-$60 then you'll get a $4 adjustment
If your that upset with Uber quit.
No, If we don't fight it will become the McDonald's of taxis and we refuse for that day to come.
This same Greed taken over Uber is coming for the middle classes as well so I would think twice about being soft on these giants while there's still a chance. AI will revolutionize and replace over 50% of the workforce in the coming decade.
If driving for Uber doesn't pay the bills just go get a real job. Plenty places in New Orleans are hiring.
@@DixiePokerAce Exactly
After scrolling down the long list of comments, this is the only reasonable comment in the entire thread so far. If the US was a full-blown socialist nation, then quitting wouldn't be much of an option; but since was are still sort of free, people could quit and find a better job (although ride sharing is not a job). Victimhood is very popular.
Uber/Lyft may be the greediest business ive ever seen. I dont think ive ever felt more insulted by a corp. 🛑🛑🛑🛑
Theyve made Billions by taking advantage of ppl... And they use things like insurance and other cost as the excuse..... They use the law... As their barrier
@@therelaytimes your why we have $4 Gas. And $5 Eggs. = greed and laziness. 👈🛑
As an Uber Eats driver, the only way for us to win is by declining all offers until the compensation is reasonable. And I've noticed that the higher the customer tip, the less compensation they give you. They are pretty much relying on the customer tip to pay you so they can keep all the profits for themselves.
Uber and Lyft are fraudulent organizations who own a monopoly on rideshare industry and taking advantage of americans in an unregulated market. These companies invest in politicians, the only way to bring about change is majority of drivers and all advocacy groups need to draft and support a single bill before congress. Uber and Lyft have the money to lobby politicians, the people have the votes to elect these same politicians, CAPISH??. Pls Note: US market is most profitable for Uber and Lyft, they're not going anywhere.
UBER+LYFT PAYING PAYING EVEN WORST IN GTA (GRATER TORONTO AREA) SUPPORT ALL OF YOU FROM MISSISSAUGA, ONTARIO CANADA.
Why Ontario haven’t regulated Uber and Lyft
7ber and Lyft is forcing these people into making these just side gig. Even then it not worth it. The algorithm favor people on all the time. It won't give someone that get on sometimes. And honestly this isn't worth a part time hustle too. This numbers doesn't add up a net positive. Drivers end up eating too much of the cost. Uber and Lyft knows this. STOP USING THIS SERVICE! I would much rather have them lost then I lose my income here.
those fares are outrageous. ripping off customers. i only do food delivery and they charge customers too much and we only make very little.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽bs insurance they have bulk insurance they get discounted insurance liars
Yes but there greed never ends, if they could pay you 10 cents an hour and they could get away with it they would do it! Extreme side of capitalism is what will destroy Uber and the United States because every corporation is doing this in one way or another now.
Their insurance is A small percentage of each trip that is taken out of the booking fee...
This whole high insurance lie is A more recent excuse Uber has been using to justify taking 70-80% of each fare.
No tire pressure in tires ?? No oil ?? USE MORE WIG AND NAIL MONEY ON YOUR BUSINESS SO YOU CAN KEEP MAKING MONEY .
😂 I was like dang how you driving with no oil 😮😂
Oh plz... They are getting pay like $4/hr average out as CEO mentioned
Uber wanted to pay me $13 for 8 stops in 2 hours.
Too many democrats.
You can only pay everyone involved from what the rider has paid. If a rider is charged $100 for an airport ride and the driver receives $52, then the remaining $48 is split between the insurance for the ride, the local taxes and fees, the airport flat fee, and Uber.
19% isn't enough to cover the costs of having a car and make a living and there's also taxes on that 19%.
$30 an “ACTIVE HOUR” which takes “TWO ACTUAL HOURS” to achieve waiting between rides.
Uber it’s a scam, greedy company
Trying using a bot software on your Uber,it enables you get higher paying orders and good batches
This is not supposed to be a job. Just share your ride to wherever you were going to drive anyhow, that way anything you get is better than driving the alone. Message boards show a lot of the professional drivers are just homeless people, they sleep in their cars, pay for a 24 hour access self storage and a gym membership for showers. So that is the pay scale that is being offered. A person looking to live above those means should not look into sharing their rides as a primary income. This is a homeless level “career”.
Lol
Exactly 💯
Before they stole the taxi company they were good jobs. This is just the beginning of all jobs becoming this way, Wal-Mart replaced by Amazon and soon no jobs . Twitter just laid off 80% . Just wait, lawyers and real-estate, bankers digital currency . doctors replaced by zoom and Chat Gpt will get em
I actually own the 2nd largest house in my neighborhood based on the comps. Bought it in 2019. I do rideshare and that's it.
...plus my pool is 9ft deep instead of 8ft. If this is the level of homeless, I hope you're doing better than me. Lol
I work for a local car service in NY. I paid them 80 dollar weekly why Uber don’t do the same thing. Uber should charge every driver 80 Dollar weekly. But Uber want all the money. 😂😂
If you’re not in New York, Miami, Los Angeles then don’t drive for UBER/Lyft. You won’t make any money.
NOW YOU FEEL TRUCK DRIVERS.......
You don’t $30 miles. And if you do you put 70 miles on your car. You losing
Uber and Lyft require drivers to have their own insurance
Actually that last ride for 17.86 i would take. 5 minute pickup 23 minute drop off. Drop off a little longer than I'd like but what if do after that is take a short trip for like 5 to 10 to kinda boost it if it makes sense. But it has to be a low minute pickup and drop off
Yea if it was a regular ride. This is Lyft XL though. Lyft is probably charging $40-60 dollars for ride like this and giving the driver literal crumbs
@@jessicamckenzie6296 oh yeah dang that is a rip off. Lux pays way more. Well should pay more. But if I was the lux driver I still would've taken it hoping for a good tip 😂. But yeah for the gas in those things that ain't nothing though
Yet lyft costs are just a few laptops a couple of employees and car insurance I just don't get it
@@therelaytimeshow much did uber and lyft pay you to troll drivers fool?? 😂😂😂
I drive for both Uber and Lyft and sleep in my van.
If drivers don't like the low pay, get a new source of income. They're independent contractors. I don't blame drivers not wanting to take those low ball offers but these companies are greedy like it's always been.
Uber & Lyft - trash 🗑️
I was upset at my low pay on my last job, but I knew what the pay was when I took the job. And guess what I did ???? I quit and got a better paying job. No one if forced to work for Uber or Lyft.
Sharing a personal anecdote about quitting a low paying job isn’t helpful or relevant. A major corporation is ruthlessly and possibly illegally exploiting its workers. This is a real problem that requires people standing up and protesting LOUDLY. With bullies like Uber this is the only way to force change. It’s much bigger than one person’s life - these drivers are standing up for the greater good not just worrying about themselves. I applaud them.
These gigs are only okay for side hustle !!
Yes. I have a full time job and I deliver food
Alright how can I help you sir ?
Not anymore. It's not worth it
Exactly, if you don't make money driving for Uber go get a real job.
Drivers make 19 percent of rider fee???????? Garbage. These numbers don't mean much to non drivers but I ASSURE U THIS SI CRAAAAAPPPP. Fire the ceo's. NOT ALL DRIVERS MAKE 30 AN HOUR. MOST DONT. DONT BE FOOLED
All those 2-3-7$ rides I don’t take anymore. They’re not with it. Long rides are loser rides.
Let’s go !!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
how come ride share companys let drivers have gangster blacked out windows
0:52 "We're no the slave for this company" so what stops you from quitting?
It’s a fact that they are price gouging passengers and paying less to drivers so soon we are going to see negotiations between passenger and driver (no Uber) (no lyft) cut the middleman out. You wait and see
It has already started here in South FL the customer ask the driver to cancel and they pay in cash
Fight these companies and make em pay up. I don't belive in there version of independent contractor. Make em act right or get out of business
Uber takes 55-65% of the fare in Phoenix
Uber is a scam
exploiting customers and drivers, support these people delete the apps
I used Uber when it first came out, I was totally shitfaced and needed a ride to the liquor store. Gud thymes.
how they want fair pay when they are not professional drivers. unlike bus Operators who have special training to be able to operate buses and people. this so cal uber and lyft drivers are nomal regular people with no training or special skills just driving aroung people. even Taxi drivers have some special training.
They'll pay you ratio to the supply and demand
I show earning on my channel. I show how i accept rides, as well. I dont take many rides because these apps pay little to nothing for many of them