EXTREME Rise of the Triad - You Do Not Belong Here
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00:00 - Introduction
03:47 - Episode 1
08:41 - Episode 2
10:54 - Episode 3
16:04 - Episode 4
25:23 - The Warp Only Levels - เกม
1:15 - I refuse to stop watching!
I came here for this comment.
What!?
Be proud of your work. I enjoyed Extreme ROTT.
@@bigblue9996 Thanks. I always have been proud of ROTT. One of my favorite professional memories during my time with Apogee/3DR.
What’s it like being a dev in the old FPS days? 15 year old here.
Fun fact: on the highest difficulty, Enforcers have 525 health. You know how much damage the MP40 does? 10. It does 10 damage. 53 rounds just to kill ONE Enforcer.
I'd be surprised if anybody could ever beat extreme rott on the highest difficulty
Here's hoping that the Triad Enforcer Chaingun is a usable weapon in the remaster.
wtf?
@@ericmagers7859 There's a remaster?
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 Yup, Rise of the Triad ludicrous edition. Coming out on all systems and PC in 2023
Here is the trailer:
th-cam.com/video/aUfNkIlJYh8/w-d-xo.html
A few comments on my level stuff:
9:04 - Exactly as intended. Designed to piss you off from the start of the level. :)
14:30 - Your logic about Lights Out is exactly mine when I designed that with the light level at zero.
14:59 - The idea with NME Mine was to make it harder than the original. As was the general design spec for the entire level pack. If I remember right, we didn't want the fences to be just decoration, but when it came out the way it did, we just let it be as it made it even harder.
20:23 - WTF did I just watch?
22:18 - A Boulder Vision. Actually my favorite level. I attempted to do everything we knew how to do with boulders all at once in this level.
25:30 - 95 Windows. I actually counted, there's 95 windows in the actual level, and if you use the map cheat and look at the entire map in the game, it was designed to look like the Windows95 interface, but you can't see that in game.
26:00 - Technical Ecstasy - a robot level named after a Black Sabbath album. I also see some footage from that level made it in to the end of the video anyway. :)
26:06 - Gods of Annihilation - the idea was that we'd give you a level that sounded (from the name) to be one of the hardest levels of all time, and it was the simplest thing ever.
26:11 - The Grand Vomitorium - The idea with the gas masks towards the end of the level was that I'd activate SO MANY gas grates it would kill you instantly no matter what health level you were at. The problem there is that many activations was a memory hog in the original DOS version, that it slowed it down. I'm glad I was the one part that crashed the port. haha. :)
26:58 - Well sussed out. When Tom and I set out to do EROTT, we basically took all the engine tricks we learned doing the original and tried to make the hardest thing we could think of. We never tried to intentionally make the player mad, it just kind of happened. OK, I lied - some of my bits in Grand Vomitorium were designed to make you mad (like the invisible elasto into the sky bits). But basically, your logic on the pack in general is sound.
o7
9:04 - I just thought of something else about 9:04. We had a level in the old game called "Dead in Five Seconds", and one called "Dead in Two Seconds".
When I was doing this level, this was a loose sequel to those, the idea being "Dead immediately".
So tell us Joe, how much playtesting was done when you and Tom designed the Extreme maps?
@@atifarshad7624 Well, I can't give you an actual amount of time, as that level of detail is lost to time. :)
But what I do remember is Tom and I both had to be able to finish each other's levels. I have a vague quasi memory that a couple others at the company had to play through the whole thing, too.
So there was definite testing done. But how much down to "How many hours", I can't answer. Too many years gone by.
Good thing you two forgave each other.
As the last line of code was typed by the Apogee team, Tom Hall breathed a sigh of relief. He had done it. Rise of the Triad was now complete. As the team began to celebrate, a flash of blue light in the corner stopped the celebrations. A hooded figure now stood there. Slowly, the figure raised his arm, and pointed at Tom, beckoning him to come over. Tom hesitantly walked over. "Congratulations, Tom," said the figure. "I'm impressed at what you have done with my wolfenstein engine. But I come to warn you of a great challenge in the future." The hooded figure began to reach into the cloak, continuing to speak. "He goes by the name of Civvie 11, and he will show people how your game isn't difficult enough. That's why I have brought you this." The figure pulled out a CD-ROM case, and handed it to Tom. "I must leave you now, Tom, but you must make sure that disk is released." And with a flash, the figure disappeared. Tom looked at the word that had been scrawled on the case, 'EXTREME', and whispered one word. "John..."
Why would Travolta do that?
Yo, didn't know John Coltrane made the wolfenstein engine, that's so cool!
Wow, its crazy to think Tom Hall met John Wick.
Reasonably sure Phoebe is referring to interdimensional master of time and computronics, John Carmack.
That is honestly well-written little blurb @Phoebe
@@TimberwolfCY Why yes, I am referring to the flesh-bound overlord of space and time John Carmack.
"I did that video over a year ago..."
Don't worry Civvie, my memory doesn't need refreshing. I re-watch most of your videos on a weekly basis.
And I'm new to the channel and I love his boomer shooter reviews (pro series)
Same, he's one of the stranger youtubers to go to sleep to
Gives good/bad memories of the 90's and I watch him as about the same
Same
I don't understand why some say old and bad, all are spectacular and hilarious. All those electric shocks are working... probably
That clip of Gordon Ramsey yelling at Tom Hall has never been more appropriate.
I'm amazed at the restraint he exhibited to only use it once, without audio, and not make it about half of the video by volume.
As a kid, we had to always ask permission to play ROTT :D Those were the days! 😇
it's more appropriate for this than it was in its original context, whatever that was
I need that clip PLEASE
@@slashdoomer it was for a crappy mobile shovelware game with Ramsay in it
Civvie: "It's all monks?"
Tom Hall: *points gun* "Always has been."
Did you know? Rise of The Triad is tied with Marathon for the the first FPS to have dual pistols. Both released on the same day in December 1994
And also tied with Marathon for the first FPS to have rocket/grenade jumping. Also I think Heretic also had the phoenix rod jumping, but Heretic was released 2 days later.
Pro marathon when, Civvie? (Sorry)
But marathon was on Mac so nobody cared
I kept trying to download and install the marathon shareware onto the macs at my dad's college office but I think I only ever got multiplayer maps or something else was wrong, there were never any enemies which makes me think multiplayer maps, but I recall there were no guns either. Was disappointed because yeah, there was shit for games on the mac in the 90s, I was a bored middle school kid at an office with a T-1 line, and this purported Doom game for mac was alluring but I never got to play it more than running around empty maps =\
@@0v_x0 I had the full game but couldn't get past the first door because I had no idea where the Use key was and I didn't learn english yet. Took me a couple of years haha.
20:29 That 'Eat Lead' song is really growing on me
eat-eat-eat-eat toast
I wrote a timestamped comment mostly just so I could come back to it, it's incredible, especially with the animation work. c:
That part made me realize the enforcers look a lot like Civvie.
Here catch
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 "Catch"y
RotT: "legally distinct Wolfenstein"
EXRotT: "oops all monks and enforcers"
Fun fact, this was the title that made my dad give up playing video games for good.
That's a bit of an extreme reaction, but I'm not gonna say I blame him.
Maybe tell him games are all painfully easy now, so he can start playing again... Although he would probably be disappointed
@@William-Morey-Baker He watches me play them every now and then, but he moved on to other hobbies.
@@mantha6912 was that a pun on the name?
@@deadcatisbad2673 unfortunately no, I didn't put that much thought into it. I'll pretend it was a pun retroactively though :P
The amount of lead eaten in this episode is remarkable
And the amount of toast eaten is just right, just enough to add a little bit of spice to the lead. Darian would be proud.
And lots of lunchboxes were buried.
20:25 For anyone who wants to jump to the Enforcer Dance.
Bless you for the replay button
>when civvie dies to enforcers again
Before I knew the context I assumed the sprite and voice were Civvie. I was really surprised to be wrong
Eat Toast
Eat lead! Eat eat lead!
Actually kind of amazed this is real and official. The whole ‘platform on wall tiles’ shit seems like something you’d find in some maniac’s Uber hard kaizo troll levels, but no. It’s real and Tom Hall laughs at us.
Tom Hall is a demon that drinks on the tears of frustrated players.
Then you have the insane community that loves those types and gets runs down to under an hour on mario kaizo.
...i hope you were talking about mario
ROTT has a real fever dream vibe in general, it reminds me of like an extremely shitty Brazilian total conversion DOOM wad with no aesthetic sensibilities whatsoever but it has banger music and is quite intelligently designed once you can make out what's going on
That ad break was hilarious:
Civvie: Let's take the low road.
[Cut to advert for Frank Grillo's new show]
Grillo [voice over]: Every day I die.
That ad is probably different for everyone.
@@Fragenzeichenplatte probably. Hence the [ ], But for me it was amusing.
I got an ad by Democrats begging for more money so, low road indeed
21:24 After many rewatches of this, I get the feeling the devs intended for you to fill that area with enforcers and use them as platforms.
“This level, Up, comes early in the expansion and makes me cry so I can see why Pixar would name a movie after it.”
Genius
I found that bit stupid.
@@VenusHeadTrap2 Congratulations
@@VenusHeadTrap2 well we thought it was funny
so
y’know
shut up
4 episodes of "blergh-blergh-blergh-blergh-blergh-blergh EAT LEAD blergh-blergh-blergh-blergh HERE CATCH blergh-blergh-blergh-blergh" - amazing how much pain you go through to deliver us this content. Also that EAT LEAD song is stuck in my head, thanks.
Civvie: Wait, it’s all monks?
Tom hall: Always has been.
civvies vocal evolution is great. love the increasing confidence and constant ambition. the sheer quality is pretty unbelievable.
"you only need a silver key guarded by a balistacraft... 42 of them" Give civvie a medal and the guy who made this game, a trophy
I'm watching this while eating chicken nuggets and stuffs
@@eebu4053 okay, and?
didnt finish episoe yet im halfway trough
@@eebu4053 amazing
@@eebu4053 you finish the video yet? did you like it?
lets call it even on the titles now
I dont think Civie understands Calling it Even. All that Electro Shock Therapy has gotten to him.
Nah, you should escalate it, Pro Extreme Dishonored 2
Now you both have to make identical Chex Quest videos
But that's what it's actually called.
THEY CALLED IT THAT
Fuck off he has amaizing content, you are mediocer at best , stop comenting at good chanels
That "Eat Lead" song bit gave me mid 2000's newgrounds flashbacks
if you're a fan of not knowing what's going on and dying, then this is the level for you
Now all we need is Totally Radical Rise of the Triad Extreme: Challenger Edition
that's only available at game stop
Honestly if Capcom made this game in an alternate reality I see that happening
*Tubular Edition
Best i can give you is Ludicrous Edition.
With ludicrous edition, anything’s possible
"Eat lead" is the best flex of 2021, need 10 hours version of that
Ask and receive my child.
Civvie just uploaded that lol
“Oops, all monks” : the game
Oops! All Enforcers!
Just like Blood-1997.
Rise of the Plutonia
“It’s back to the weird shit”
Oh shit yes
But he hasn't even done either of the Hexen games yet! I'm not saying I *want* Civvie to have a mental breakdown, but...
_'You have 2 choices, one choice is death'_
Just like real life!
The other…
*IS ALSO DEATH*
"I ain't gotta do nuthin' but stay black and die." - Morgan Freeman in Lean On Me
Every time we yell at Tom Hall he pushes back releasing the Anachronox 2 script by 20 years.
See y’all in 2243
Yeah it's right there next to the original Beyond Good & Evil 2 that keeps disappearing every time someone asks ubisoft why they're such pieces of shit.
The bizarre thing is that he never attempted to make it even after Kickstarter became popular. Surely he could gather enough money to realise it in some shape or form. Not as an AAA project, naturally, but something more akin to Wasteland II. That would be preferable to complete oblivion.
At this point i dont care about that lol
@@thecandlemaker1329 Square Enix owns the IP so he’d have to license it from them, and that’s money that needs to exist even before the Kickstarter campaign. Though that IP (like Gex and Fear Effect) is available through their Square Enix collective crowdfunding initiative.
"If ROTT is a Super Mario Bros. game, Extreme ROTT is like those obscure Japanese "Kaizo Mario" levels designed only for Tool-Assisted Speedruns."
Love that.
Nah they're more like the lost levels
@@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 I'd say it's somewhere in between. Extreme ROTT is definitely harder than the lost levels (which are hard as shit for a normie like me if that's any indication of how brutal extreme rott is) but easier than kaizo.
*"That's the end of the secret levels, but not the end of the pain"*
Civvie's words are inspiring as always!
I feel like Civvie is going to be traumatized by Monks and Enfoncers after this. I hope next game doesn't have them xD
Ok in my head it's spelled Enfoncers from now on. Just a sea of enforcers called Alphonse.
New ROTT canon confirmed
What is our dear Civvie going to play next anyway?
He finally did it. I'm so proud of him
100 likes you're welcome brother
@@BigboiiTone 236 now
@@marcellofunhouse1234 284 now
@@icravedeath.1200 310 now
Triad Enforcer: “go on, kill me! Mwhaahaha! Come on, do it now!”
Nyaaah girly man
@@aannurag Nyaha! Big John!
EUGH
*Big John starts playing*
*"OW, YOU HURT ME!"*
You'd think the protagonist would have all the time in the world to search for secret eggs after killing him but I guess they had better things to do
@21:35
This is fixed in the Ludicrous Edition, so now you can properly run on the pillars and reach the exit with any character.
good i just love that apogee jingle before the game starts. Who needs sleep when King Civvie uploads another vid.
not to mention the dial up noise. never have i ever been so happy to hear the fucking dialup noise. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME!?
Fuck en oath bloke. Rip a coupla hot ones and watch another cracking civvie vid
squee
Funny you say that since I fell asleep watching it because I just came off a 9am to midnight shift.
You looking for that music?
That one? You know the one.
It's right here:
th-cam.com/video/fruoq6Uf-Lo/w-d-xo.html
Dunno why, but I was expecting a rick roll. Anyways, thanks Civvie
I am a horse! Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeigh!
damn you know me to well
(hey buddy, if u want some funky tunes, search for ultra sheriff)
When are you doing Shadow Man Civvieleven?
20:20
Please tell me I'm not the only one who thought that was actually part of the game. Makes about as much sense as anything else.
22:05 The way Civvie enunciated "You have to know that you don't kill all the fuckin Enforcers with it" makes me very, very happy
God dang. I forget how good the Triad music is until Civvie uploads again.
I just can't forget how excellent it is, and I'll tell you why: Paul "skillsaw" DeBruyne.
@@DinnerForkTongue
“Screams ain’t a crime… _yet.”_
Certainly way better than the 'poorly' put together MIDIs in Doom.
@@DinnerForkTongue man I love skillsaw
Fones R Phunny doom soundtrack slander will not be tolerated
-At work LITERALLY discussing with a coworker how he should watch this channel
-This video pops up
Looks like I'm in the right timeline 😂
"Case in point!"
I was just rewatching pro postal for the millionth time and BAM
I woke up today thinking a new Civvie video would be great.
@@cantpleasonist I'm glad he didn't disappoint bro
@@B0risTheBlade so I'm not the only one who does this? All the pissing and murder of innocents is comforting.
20:30 “Big John feel like a song!”
It's like playing plutonia while you're also beating super Mario Bros with your feet.
"It made me cry so I can see why Pixar named their movie after it"
"This can't be good for me, but I feel great!"
Is there a price for reposting the same shit under every single video?
@@fonesrphunny7242 you can’t put a price on... whatever he gains from this.
"This can't be good for me, and likewise I can feel my Hall-tortured soul escaping my mortal form!"
23:58
Here's the ROTT: Ludicrous Edition Launch Trailer bit you're looking for 😉
I did indeed...
3:18 hit scan revennants now there's an idea
Extreme RoTT is like Super Mario Bros: the lost levels.
except 3d so it's like super mario 64: the lost levels
honestly the lost levels weren't that bad. definitely ball busting but only a couple parts were plain unfair, and most of them are at the end
More like Kaizo Mario
This is more like official kaizo.
FUCK the lost levels! My copy of Super Mario All-Stars didn't have an exit for map 8-2 so I never could beat that fucking game!
Just in the middle of a civvie binge, this couldn't have come at a better time
The triad enforcer’s pain sound is now permanently stuck in my brain because of this video. 10/10
11:15 It's all monks again! IT'S ALL MONKS AGAIN!!
The height of gaming excitement right here
I had a vivid memory of 1995, i was 7 years old, watching one of the old TV shows we used to get in Chile about video games, and i remember watching a scene from a FPS where the character shoots white balls out of his hand and the enemies disappear. I never found the game and in my mind i even thought i had dreamt it up or had a weird case of Mandela effect, thinking that Catacomb Abyss was the game i saw, but i knew wasnt.
Then, decades later, i watch Civvie's video and i discover the truth: I was right, the game was Rise of the Triad and of course ive never played the game, though i had heard of it.
Thank you captain Civvie, for putting my demons to rest.
So now you can... Chile your mind.
Not sorry.
I like how I've never played Rise of the Triad and know every single music track from Doom wads.
"I feel bad for mentioning it exists because people are going to find it on Apogee's website and play it."
Nah, they just casually add it to the remaster so EVEN MORE PEOPLE will suffer unknowingly ;P (relatively speaking)
Extreme ROTT is less a dickish Mario maker level or Kaizo Mario world and more the ROTT version of Mario 2: a reskin of the first game with new levels where the bad guy tries again by going to an alternate timeline and when you go to stop him he pulls no punches.
I swear this game rides entirely on the soundtrack.
Yea it actually looks obnoxious as hell gameplay wise. That soundtrack is just so god damned awesome though
To be fair, it did rocket jumping before quake so that's pog
@@indigo1149 tru
@@indigo1149 afaik it even did rocket jumping before Marathon did
Agreed, Lots of retro shooters are still fun to play today but not only does RoT look super unappealing visually, the gameplay itself doesn't look fun at all, just obnoxious and annoying. Maybe it's not so bad on hard but.. yeah. Don't see the appeal.
so happy I found your channel! I'm going through a lot in my personal life and this helps me laugh through some of the troubles. Thank you and please keep it up!
The moment you accept Katie is Civvie, is the day you become mature
-Nikola Tesla
Tha nowt really simplifies my fantasy of a threesome. Foursome if Cancermouse isn't opposed to role-playing a gerbil...
It would explain a great many things
I went and asked Civvie on Twitter. He confirmed Katie doesn't exist. :C
@@papayer Even though I knew that was the case, I do not want to believe it
@@shlokwaghela9560 well, if it helps, he also says 18's still hanging around and that he quit smoking.
Oh, and all those pictures of the dude with the makeshift colander hat that he used in his past videos? Those are all him too. Just old pictures. Civvie lowkey cute ngl 😌
I was literally just looking at your Patreon like, "Oh wow, looks like Civvie's doing Extreme ROTT. That'll be fun to watch" and then I go to your channel homepage and see you uploaded it like 10 minutes ago lol. As a poor boi who can't afford Patreon, thank you Civvie for your impeccable timing.
The feeling you get when you recognize the intro track from Doom II Scythe Map30, Alien Vendetta map25, and Hell Revealed map19 before discovering it was from ROTT.
Hell Revealed in particular (IIRC) uses a lot of ROTT MIDIs.
Imagine if Tom Hall got to make that final Commander Keen trilogy. He wouldn't have been angry enough to work on this.
you can find Scott's Mystical Head in the Experiment IV level! it's behind the Oscuro door, and the key is pretty well hidden
My boy Civvie coming in clutch. Thanks for making today a little bit better!
A good subtitle for this expansion would be "Oops! All monks!"
glad you covered this one and I really enjoy watching your videos and the lore you made for the channel
Eat lead! Eat Eat Eat Eat Lead!
What a banger, deserves a Grammy 100%
EAT TOAST
This is my first time seeing a youtuber keep up their promise in saying 'we'll do X sometime'. Great lol.
Also uh, is it just me or is this the shortest downtime we've had between two videos by Civvie? The Redneck Rampage episode came out like... not a week ago.
Well, AVGN reviewed Raid 2020 in 2020, so Civvie isn't only one keeping his promises.
>Keeping promises
>Chickened out on a TNT video
Hahahahahaha… *_NO._*
@@borrisnorris2028 i may be mistaken but i don't think he ever actually promised to do TNT
I may play these myself.
I may watch you play them.
I may have you playing in the background while I do other things.
But when I do I'm happy that I can.
Thank you for continuing to make these.
i really like how you have "chapters" in your episodes, it feels like a journey through the hell that game is
awesome work like always dude keep it up :o)
*sips coffee* looks like this is gonna be a fine morning.
*Apogee Fanfare Plays*
Not sure if they are up your alley but I'd love to see the first two Soldier of Fortune games played on your channel.
It's Raven, I'm sure it's on his list somewhere.
"Finally, we're back to that nice feeling of punishment."
- Civvie 11, 2019
I discovered this channel about 3 years ago, and seeing the quality of these videos go up and up while Civvie continues to play some of my favorite (and most hated) childhood games.....it's just.....it's somethin special ya know?
Extreme rise of the triad is one of the only games that makes you truly feel like you're a one man army. Because you die, a lot.
Can't wait to re-watch this 30 times this week!
Full respect for tossing in a scene from Name of the Rose.
One of the best Civvie episodes. Rewatching this masterpiece
"You are not going to enjoy it"
ROTT in a nutshell.
I need a 10 hour version of "Eat Lead."
Edit: Eh, 1 hour is good enough.
You're gonna turn it off after 15 minutes anyways.
@@fonesrphunny7242 you dont know me.
@@fonesrphunny7242 You're not my dad!
Civvie, your videos bring me great joy and have been a heartwarming companion in these trying times. Thank you for everything you and Katie do.
*im sorry but Katie is not real*
This made me giggle all the way through. Nice work
Hell yes. Been super hyped to see Civvie do Extreme version since he joked about it during the first RoT video
I need "Eat Lead" as my wake up alarm.
This was a really nice video. Thank you Civvie.
5:03 funny how he's talking about UP when that monk on the right there gets absolutely ejected
Oh my god I've been waiting so long for this.
I really do appreciate these videos, it's nice to see old fps like Doom, Quake and Duke (back when he was relevant). It's like learning about the history of how we got to where we are now, and I probably wouldn't have known about games like Blood and Shadow Warrior without these videos (I only knew of the new Shadow Warrior games and boy did I not like the one I played. It just didn't grab me)
Oh boy! A civvie review right on time for my birthday! Thank you civvie!
Great vid as usual mate. Top shelf.
20:40 straight one of the best things on the internet 🤣🤣
Kriss krost as a name for an endboss who has a twin. Understanding this reference made me feel sooo old.
EROTT and both versions of The HUNT Begins are free extras with the GOG version of Dark War if I remember right, so we don’t even need to get them from Apogee’s site unless we want the versions of the shareware wad with the shareware ending.
The clips at the end during the credits and thank yous are hilarious :D
The Civvie video we didn't knew we wanted, but he gave it to us.
Hey speak for yourself, he said in the original video that he'd do this and I've been looking forward ever since.
You know a game is deranged when Civvie has to bust out the cheats.
I mean the game told him to.
At some point I realised that, despite being and FPS, Rise of the Triad's level design is basically all those 8-Bit and 16-Bit Mario games.
Which makes Extreme the 'Lost Levels' of ROTT.
extreme rott is way more like those kaizo mario levels with how sadistic it is
Finally!!! You got around to reviewing this! I was working on a video review if EROTT. But you covered everything brilliantly. I'll just type in DIPSTICK
This seems like the kind of expansion you make to punish everyone who said that the base game wasn't challenging enough.