I think that this is a great example about how society belittles sexual harassment towards men since a majority of the people reading thirst tweets about them are men
I remember when Jessi was in one of those videos and none of those comments are thirsty. I'm pretty sure Jessi would be happy to be able to read them. I think it's just because she's a woman.
@@adettessubs444 ikr, there are way more thirsty tweets about her and even though she would have enjoyed reading them, at the same time I am happy buzzfeed didn't show them. Except what angers me is that they didn't do the same for the male guests, especially when some of them were married. They should have not chosen such extreme ones.
I think they knew what the interview was about before they came on though. Not in any way excusing sexual harassment towards men, I just don't think it is.
This has been in the back of my mind for like, YEARS. I thought buzzfeed wouldn't do the same thing with female celeb because their demographic would immediately flag it as sexual harassment, but somehow it's okay for male celebrities to receive it.
@Laura Kay “buzzfeed wouldn’t do the same thing with female celeb because their demographic would immediately flag it as sexual harassment, but somehow it’s okay for male celebrities to receive it.” I just responded that misandrist were the reason to that statement . And the “demographic of buzzfeed” is mostly women that are misandrist . Hence why I said what I said (misandrist). May I explain more ?
@Laura Kay how have you turned this on men lmao ? Isn’t this the same as when some men whenever women are expressing their distress about how women are sexually assaulted say “well women do it too” You’re doing the same thing turning it on men when the topic at hand was well women misandrist feminazi f*ckers lol
@Laura Kay I mean do you actually think they also didn’t nit pick and choose the specific tweets from women? As them saying that they’d want to peg xy celebrity which there was probably a lot of , would look weird regardless of gender , i don’t even know why y’all will never admit that Maybe women are in the wrong in this certain situation(as in how the reactions to some of the statements of women in these thirst tweets would be received extremely badly if they were men)but instead make accusations and assumptions about how men would do things different or how men this and men that , I just responded to the op statements with “the misandrist are the reason” and you’re bum a*s started talking about why I said what I said about misandrist , and then I explained my statement , And then you went on and made it about men … like bruh , how can you deviate from you’re own statements that quick and make other statements that got nothing to do with what I originally said ? Insane …
I feel the reason jessi, amber and other female celebrities get comments that are so watered down in this videos is because buzzfeed is pretty much aware that this is SA but they dont want to face the backlash of harassing women so they go and take advantage of men's unfair exposure to SA and keep on doing it
Or maybe they don't even truly believe it is SA but don't want to fight that fight by putting heavier tweets in videos with women. Except at the end of the day they just look silly when they blatantly have that double-standard, regardless of their intentions
@@abiahne814 it's definitely not because they are Korean, before Jessi and Amber there have been already white women and they didn't read things as sexual or at least not as detailed as the tweets that men read
@@almariaghern1876 also the fact that there were literally korean men on the show like eric nam and jay park and they had to deal with the same shit as white men
Around 9:20 when you mentioned the women harassing other women - I agree completely. I've been harassed by women and it was treated as a joke, passed off as "oh we're both girls" or even twisted to make me look like the creepy one for implying there was something more happening. and since female on female abuse is the least spoken of, it's so easy for them to get away with it
sorry, you posted this a while ago but i do want to share how much i agree. this happened to me with a toxic ex-friend, and besides all the crappy ways she treated me, she used to touch my thighs under the tables in class and pass it off as a joke. i felt pretty uncomfortable at the time, and she was aware because she would joke that she was sexually harassing me, but because we're both girls and she was straight it was ok? making sure everyone is comfortable and feels respected in any type of friendship is so important, there is no excuse
@@neliabedelia im glad that you’re aware how wrong that was and im so sorry you had to experience it. the “both girls” thing always bothers me like, as if a girl can’t harm another girl? 😒
there’s a reason literally 99% of the videos feature male celebrities. if they did it with women it would immediately be considered sexual harassment. why do we disregard harassment towards men and instead treat their discomfort like it’s cute and hot
or maybe ? just maybe? more men AGREED to fo the video concept because more women were uncomfortable with the idea? i mean there is something called free will?
i think a good example of sexual harassment towards celebrities being normalised is harry styles and his fans. i use to be a part a fan of his and the rest of one direction (i just grew out of them i guess), and during that time period i saw so many gross comments about them, almost always on twitter. harry himself said in an interview that comments sexualising him, especially from minors, make him uncomfortable and yet people still think it’s okay. and when these people would get called out, they’re responses were like “it’s a joke” or “i’m allowed to express myself sexually 😐😐”. like yes you can express yourself in that way as long as you’re not sexualising someone who doesn’t consent to it, and why do you think it’s okay to make jokes like that?
Why don't people just keep that creepy shit to themselves? It's one thing to fantasize about someone, but saying that stuff to them on their socials is not okay.
i just wanna take a moment to acknowledge that people take domineering sexual harassment far more seriously than submissive sexual harassment, and it kind of goes to show how people care more about violent assault than sexual. the tamest example i can think of is that it's commonplace for someone to say 'step on me' but it would be awful for someone to say 'i want to step on you'. the belief that sexual violence can only be dominant is woefully outdated but since oftentimes submissive harassment can come across as less forceful people interpret it as a request, rather than an assault. this is, in my opinion, how gender plays into it because men are perceived as dominant while women submissive (no matter how outdated that mindset may be) so in the eyes of patriarchy the man would always 'control' sex. if a woman/submissive person makes inappropriate sexual comments it is seen as an offer - a promise that they consent to whatever the other party wants. people assume that because this is an 'offer' and therefore the subject has a choice in whether or not to accept, it is not forcing the subject into anything. but that isn't true. by out of nowhere offering sex you put someone into a sexual situation - it doesn't matter if they have the chance to 'opt out' by rejecting it, introducing that scenario and then describing your sexual fantasies of this person without any indication that they wouldn't be severely uncomfortable let alone tolerate it is harassment on its own. a lot of people on the internet blatantly manipulate the power dynamics of s&m to justify harassment. it makes no actual difference who has the 'power' in your fantasies, because believe it or not masses of anonymous people who will never face consequences for their actions online have a lot more power than one famous person whose livelihood depends on having and maintaining a supportive fanbase.
Yess u perfectly put what I’ve been thinking into words. I noticed that thirst comments always seem to be abt what ppl want others to do to them, never what they wanna do to others. My friends and I were talking abt it and we agreed that it’s bc the latter sounds bad, which got me wondering why since it didn’t seem fair
I was actually kind of thinking about these. I often see male thirst make comments tend to be a bit different from female comments. Not to say that either one is okay and we should acknowledge that both make the subject uncomfortable, but often I see men tend to me very aggressive in their comments. Often the word choice is forceful and often it can be pretty degrading. I think it might have to do with the fact that men often dehumanize the subject that they are sexualizing. What I mean is they treat them like a bag of meat. But I think because the women writing this, write it from the submissive angle and do it adoringly rather than derogatorily, it isn’t perceived the same. Also this may be why a lot of the female thirst tweets were forgoed is probably because it was tied into sexism as well as why women perceive it to maybe even be complementary. Still it’s very disgusting that a lot of women feel okay enacting this behavior at the expense of male celebs.
I'm so glad someone finally said it, bc I've been feeling this way about certain aspects of "fandom culture" since forever. Ok so for context, for most of my life I wasn't too interested in celebrities, until I got into kpop fandoms around 2016. I was introduced to kpop through boy groups, and even though I definitely found a lot of the guys handsome, so many things about the fan girl's way to go about their admiration just didn't sit right with me. Like...making weird sexual fanarts and over the top thirst tweets, for example. I found it weird AF because I always thought "well, what if the guys see it?" but since most of my kpop stan friends participated in this aspect I kind of just brushed it off as me being dramatic or overanalyzing stuff that's just "for fun". I found it super weird how all of this girls absolutely hated when men catcalled them or sexualized them, but didn't hesitate to sexualize male celebrities into oblivion. I think a lot of them don't make the connection because 1) they're men and 2) they don't see them irl so it's easy to dehumanize them. It's specially ironic when this same fangirls talk about how awful sasaengs (obsessive fans) are but don't realize that those unhealthy obsessions flourish thanks to an environment where dehumanizing idols/celebrities and painting them as otherworldly beings is totally ok. So yeah, fandoms are fun and sometimes *ironically* making an over the top thirsty comment is hilarious, but it's also important to always have the awareness that the person you admire is well, a person, and they can feel uncomfortable. It's ok to find someone attractive, but there's a line between being flirty or praising someone and being downright creepy. You wouldn't tell the guy you have a crush on that you wished "he'd slit your throat open with his jawline" to his face, would you?
I read through your comment and I agree and I am relieved someone thinks the same as me. I don't want to be a holier than thou type of person, but the points you made are some of the reasons I do my best to not dehumanize and lust over them. And what if I meet them in real life? I would love to, but how could I look them in the eye knowing the things I have thought about them? Again, thank you for your comment.
Same! I was never really the type of person into smut or thirsting for idols. But I never really thought twice about it. Just kinda scrolled past. But when I saw the thirst tweets or smut of any kind involving s female idol, I was immediately so uncomfortable. And that was the first time I realized that it’s equally gross when it’s done to male idols. It’s really not okay at all. It’s so gross. Especially because there are several idols who’ve said they reallt don’t like it at all.
this has been bothering me since forever too. finding someone nice and attractive is okay but I can never imagine how someone can fantasize about some celebrity they don't even really know in a 'thirsty' way for a lack of a better word. It creeps me out in general but especially that if I was a celebrity, I wouldn't want people to comment and think about these things and it would make me so uncomfortable. You can find someone attractive but keep a respectful distance and a distance between reality and fantasy too. I make it a point to never engage in a conversation where someone is going beyond an extent and almost dehumanizing the famous person. It just feels wrong.
@Anjali I don't want to be dramatic or anything but your comment seems like victim-blaming to me. Your basically saying that If they find sexual comment about themselves is their fault beacause they were looking for it. If someone founds sexual comments made about them, it doesn't matter if they found it by accident or not, they're allowed to feel uncomfortable.
"you are such a cutie when you are terrified" is something a male serial k*ller would say to a teen girl before torturing and probably abusing her in an horror/slasher movie. The fact that people think it's okay to say it to real people (men) because they are famous is beyond me.
literally exactly what im thinking. like the mental disconnect someone needs to have to even think that saying something like that is normal. what is happening to the world
11:17 as a female, that's a messed way to validate such comments. no one should ever feel uncomfortable reading comments like that, it applies to all genders. btw i love your jewelry!
not to mention that celebrities often deal with stalkers and threats. the manny jacinto tweet might sound like a ridiculous joke to the outside world, but i wouldn’t be shocked if he or someone he knew had received that kind of message in a completely serious tone before from a stalker. because celebrities are rich and famous, they seem invincible, but they’re probably actually way more vulnerable to stalking than the average person is so this kind of stuff could feel pretty scary if you live a high profile life.
Not even that tho. Yes a possible example. But it’s also just easy for all of us to laugh at grotesque examples of sexual harassment because we don’t really register it as that because we don’t reallty register these celebrities as humans. It’s so easy to just dismiss it because we don’t imagine what it would be like for these male celebrities to actually hear it
yes omg when i watched the manny jacinto video i felt so awkward and uncomfortable for him......,, :(( thank you for this discussion, i didn't actually think about this while watching thirst tweets videos but your points are really valid also unrelated but your hair looks so good and your editing is SO cute and on point ???? and i love how eloquent you are !!!
My two cents about Thirst Tweets is that why there are public thirst tweets in the first place (regardless of celebrity or not). It's fine if you're horny, but don't put it out in the public environment where your targeted desire can see it. I only don't mind watching the ones that (at least) seem to not mind the tweets. But still feels icky. Some tweets are more complimentary in a non-sexual way (which are my faves). Anyways, this is a great topic.
@@Eliftae Oh, definitely. Now, I can tell some of those tweets are indirect mentions that don't @ the people, but Buzzfeed must search the celebrities' names on Twitter to get all the indirects. And this is why I keep my comments about Sacha Dhawan to Tumblr and Discord where he can't see them!
Everytime I see those video I tell myself “ugh they really don’t need to know that”… its like the world of fanfiction, its all good until you see a video of the celebrity reading it. I feel so embarrassed for them. And I feel like the buzzfeed videos encourage people to tweet even weirder things than before just to get a chance to be featured…
Have you ever considered fanfiction about real people is not okay even if you don't see them reading it? What if someone was writing sexual stories about having sex with YOU? Would it make you feel better if the people who write it told you "It was fun to do this until you found out"? To me personally it would make me feel worse. Just a thought.
@@nessie7306 there was someone in my school years ago who actually did publish smut using people that went to school with her. though at first it was shocking and made us disgusted, there were so many chapters with different people that it made me realise the fantasy had nothing to do with the people and more to do with the fantasy itself, so it honestly made it more digestable afterwards. Not defending what she did but the reaction of everyone who found themselves in the smut to be more like "What the fuck, ew" rather than any serious or long term damage
@@h027s I would understand that reaction in that case, yeah. I just think, celebrities see them in the hundreds, some of them thousands. That probably makes them more uncomfortable than just one fanfiction. However thanks for the input, maybe it isn't as bad for them as one would think.
@@nessie7306 for me the expression “its all good” more of a general statement for people who like fan fiction. Wether we like or not, celebrity-based fan fictions has been normalized in fandoms and internet culture. Personally, I have always felt like this type of fan fiction is awkward af and wrong. However, I’m under the impression that fan fiction about real people is understood to be for the fans only. It’s not intended for the celebrity. This assumption is completely shattered when the subject of the fan fiction makes it known that they have read it. And since the celebrity wasn’t supposed to know about it, authors are often more explicit. And that makes it a 100% time worse when the person’s knows about it. But yeah I totally I agree with you… it would be creepy Af to read one fan fiction about yourself…so I can’t imagine when you have about 1000+
This is a brilliant video!!! It deserves more views tbh. people need to see this and be more critical about the sort of content/media we are consuming and the ways in which fandom/fan spaces can get out of hand and the sexual comments or tweets can border on harassment even within the context of it being between fans and not actively being directed to a particular celeb. It becomes especially unsettling when media companies like buzzfeed involves these celebrities in the thirst for content and clicks. I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to be thirsty on main but, like you've pointed out in the video, a line has been crossed and getting actors and musicians to read thirst tweets simply feels exploitative or cringey at the very least.
Honeslty also, what you mentioned about comments bordering on harassment it just makes me think about how, for this segment/show, the team has to actually CHOOSE the tweets they're gonna give the artist so, it seems very strange that if they read and see a tweet saying something about how they want said artist to kill them while their blood comes out and their jugular makes noises or, i remember one in the eric nam video saying smth like if he'd choke them to death they would still thank him for it, how does the team of people behind this, read this and not think it's borderline? how are they fine and not think twice about making the artist read it like.... mhmmm maybe not this one because this person might actually be psychotic?
Sexual Harassment for the most part is seen as okay as long as you make it socially acceptable. If a woman was harassed in the street and a large crowd was hired to follow the harasser and clap, or if he was flashing her and everyone clapped, more people would join in and clap and most people would see it as socially acceptable. It's all about appealing to the majority, so it's a good idea to manipulate them.
Honestly, since harassment is already pretty frowned upon especially when done by men, it does much rather sound they are harassing the harasser back with claps, by doing it ironically. It would be much clearer f you if you said "cheer on", assuming your first language isn't English. And just a heads up, my first language isn't English eitherr, so I know how commonly these mistakes can be made. And by that I also suppose most people would feel uncomfortable by being clapped at in public for no reason at all if you don't give cheering, but tha also might be my insecurities speaking louder.
That's really what it boils down too. Humans by nature are followers (even those who claim to be "alpha") in most situations. If someone gets harassed in a room full of people who are well aware of it, even now in a time where people are generally more critical of this sort of thing, most won't do anything about it. Everyone is supposedly "progressive" until they actually witness harassment happening in a classroom or workplace. It's not until someone in that room speaks up that more people realize, "Oh yeah, that is wrong."
I don't think most people would find it socially acceptable just by looking at other people do it in a small context. We will question it. We definitely wouldn't stop it. But I don't think most people would join in or agree that it's acceptable.
I have thought about this multiple times in the past and thank you for addressing it! I can’t imagine that these videos have been passed as ‘normal’ and ‘entertaining’
Honestly it was funny when i couldn’t see that they were uncomfortable but some of the tweets went to far. The tweets were so outrageous that I laughed at them but.
aaah im glad someone said it! when thirst tweet videos first came on my rec, i only watched dan radcliffe cause, im a major harry potter geek, i wondered if any girls had any of these videos, and i found jessi and amber liu. all tweets amber read were by females (seemed like it) and amber looked very concerned (rightfully lmao). it gets me thinking, what if there were sexual tweets by guys, towards these girls in the same way, written in the same psychotic manner, would it be seen just as a joke or would they be creepy?
Personally, I've never liked those videos when the guests look obviously uncomfortable. The only one I actually watched and enjoyed watching were the ones where they obviously looked like they were having fun, and they were going along with it, like those guests seemed like they were just there to get a good laugh and that was fun to watch. However, I still feel bad for giving them views because that contributed to BuzzFeed inviting more and more guests that could possibly feel uncomfortable but feel forced to as this video's are a big thing now.
like, im sorry but if a grown ass man with a well established career feels like he cant say not to fucking BUZZFEED out of all things because their one video series is kind of a big thing currently, i think the problem lies elsewhere entirely.
oh wow I'm glad you talked about this, I have been side-eyeing those videos for a very long time. I watched a couple and I forgot who it was, but there was one video where the guy was obviously very uncomfortable and looked weirded out and seeing him read those crazy comments made me uncomfortable as well. I think its okay for people to post their thirst tweets but buzzfeed compiling them and showing them to the celebrity is where I feel the line is crossed. The entire concept actually seems like something people would've enjoyed in the early 00s & 10's and I'm surprised that buzzfeed hasn't been majorly called out on the concept yet. I guess its because the subjects are males and so people don't really care all that much?
literally- if the tweets were formatted as [man tweeting] - i want [woman] to do x with/to me it would seem really perverted and wrong for buzzfeed to compile those tweets and show the women when in reality it's just as weird regardless of the genders in each role
OMG, I totally agree, like I think I get the justification of when people are like 'hey, these people tweeting tweet these kinda stuff not even imagining the actual celebrity will read it and all'. Like of course there is fault with people tweeting these kind of stuff but I think the major fault is with buzzfeed for actually compiling all these tweets and making celebrities read them.
I sort of agree. But some of the tweets were incredibly grotesque. Like, please have some shame. I’d never wanna have that stuff said to me/about me unless it was a friend, MAYBE.
let’s talk about how is always male celebrities who are invited to record this videos. If they were women, other women would be calling the company out bc of their actions. I’m a raging feminist btw, but I just wanted to point out that this may be the reason why the don’t do this to women, bc they wouldn’t be able to hide the sexual harassment that comes with this videos. English is not my first language, feel free to correct me and sorry if there’s mistakes!
As someone who is asexual and very uncomfortable with anyone even thinking of me in a sexual way, I cannot imagine what these poor celebrities must be going through when they read these comments:(
It sucks that this behavior is so normalized, especially in fandom spaces ;;; I even found myself joining in on it without thinking, but I'm trying to unlearn it and this video is another reasom to do so. Fandoms really need to change the way they interact with celebrities.
However kinky the other person may or may not be, walking up to a stranger and whispering kinyk stuff into their ear WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT is NOT OKAY. I don't know about y'all, but I am kinky af and I do not like to have people do things to me without my consent, period.
what you said at 2:00 was what i've been trying to put into words for a few weeks now! i'm honestly so over people normalizing sexual comments about people and then getting praise/validation ( i guess? ) for it, it's so gross urghghgh
I LOVE your channel! I'm Christian so I usually tend to stay away from sexual content, but those Buzzfeed videos always end up on my recommended. It always made me so uncomfortable. But I never really thought about it to this extent. You're totally right. These videos ARE sexual harrassment. These comments aren't "I love (blank actor)" or "(actor) is so cute!". They aren't compliments. They're harrassment.
this!! there is a sort of double standard for men being uncomfortable with unwanted sexual advancements, and women being uncomfortable. it plays into a big part of misogyny as a whole, even if the focus is on men. it's toxic masculinity shrouded in 'feminism or being woke". it really shows that buzzfeed is at least somewhat aware of the backlash it can have if they water down and filter the thirst tweets for their female celebrities, it feels like they're just infantilizing women and sexualizing men. it IS sexual harassment and its unfair that male celebrates have to just sit and take it because our society expects men to be promiscuous, and treats them like children if theyre not. this double standard dehumanizes all genders and it's insane that so many ppl dont see a problem with it This is what feminism is about: dismantling gender discrimination as a whole!!
so fucking true, I'm really disgusted by those motherfuckers who say:omgggfg feminismmmmm, aaaannnnd whereeeee r myyyy righhhhts? and the same people when they see a post about a man being raped or harassed:omg, where can I find that place/person?
serene ismail to be honest, i've seen plenty of mra's videos where feminists go and insult them for no reason. Both of these happen and there are extremists in both of these movements.
I always thought I didn't like this because I felt uncomfortable people talking about sex because of trauma I never really acknowledged the sexual harassment part of it and when I did I'd just thought I was just being dramatic its nice to hear someone validate my feeling.
yk i found this video looking for a 5sos video, and i ended up watching the whole video. I never really saw the the videos as that big of a deal till now, this really showed me a different perspective. Just subbed lol
i completely agree with you! i actually didn’t know these kinds of videos were a thing. i’ve watched the “celebs read mean tweets” but didn’t know about the thirst trap ones. totally creepy!! 😬
Ohmygod I’ve been thinking about this forever!! I remember I watched the nick jonas vid and he was generally chill/took everything lightheartedly which people in the comments were praising. A lot of the comments were comparing him to Shawn mendes, who’d done the previous vid and was more overtly uncomfortable with the whole thing. People were belittling Shawn and basically saying how he would’ve been more like Nick, and idk, it just left a bad taste in my mouth. All your videos are so thought provoking and genuinely so interesting to watch!! Love ur channel.
so much male sexual harassment in the media is just disguised as “thirsting” or “fangirling”. some of them can be funny but i was watching james mcavoy’s video and one said something like “look at james mcavoy’s ass” and he laughed it off but could you imagine if that was said about a woman
Yeah just gotta think of the time when Zac Efron had his shirt forcibly removed in front of a crowd after trying to ignore their demands for him to take it off
I'm sorry if I answer at this comment 7 month later but I completely agree ! In real life, if you're having sexual thoughts about someone you will not tell them because you know it can make you and them feel very uncomfortable. But, on social media and with a celebrity, people seems to forget that it can make the person feels really bad. Very sad, indeed.
Hey, thanks for this. To be honest, I went back to the channel where Manny's video was posted and I realised I HAD LIKED THAT VIDEO(i am embarrassed ) so I disliked it and I feel better. Thanks for this video, it gave me a new perspective towards things like these.
this is a really interesting take that I never thought about! I feel like this analysis or beginnings of an analysis into why we as a society like to watch people being uncomfortable can be translated into a lot of youtube videos like those on CUT and channels alike where people are asked to do things that are uncomfortable or would be confronting in most cases. I personally am one of these people and, I havent really thought about it much so thank you for sharing such a different insight into thinking about what we find entertaining. Unfortunately am yet to have any answers of my own though haha
As someone who draws and writes very sexual and sometimes even kinky stuff about fictional characters, including life action characters: This creeps me out so much. Comments like this should NEVER reach celebrities. They should always be just by fans for other fans, carefully hidden from celebrities with "warning" tags and things like that. Showing celebrities this stuff, no matter if you are a fellow fan who @ts them or some show host, is just not okay
I feel like this has a lot to do with humans finding pleasure in the discomfort of others in general. I never watched much of America's Funniest Home Videos, or whatever the thing was called, but most of the videos I did watch involved someone getting injured. For some reason I feel like people feel better seeing someone else in pain when they know they aren't, and we sympathize with others when we also share that pain. I'm a guy, and I've never personally experienced any sexual harassments, but I do think it's better to just reduce harassments in general no matter what form it comes in. Too many people nowadays seem to not care when they inconvenience someone else, especially if they can gain a backing that supports them personally.
I felt like that watching Jaebum's video. Some thirst tweets are lighter, but they put a BUNCH about eating ass and his 0rgasm face in there and it made me hella uncomfortable.
Idk... I think for racy videos like the thirst tweet series, a celebrity could certainly let the publicist know they weren't comfortable with that and then just choose a different video to star in. I don't quite believe that a celebrity just has no say in the matter. Furthermore, I think the draw of the video series is not "watch this person get sexually harassed," but rather "look how absurd and hilarious these comments are." I just think that if a celebrity didn't like the idea of starring in one of these, they wouldn't do it. Or they could even just let the video makers know they weren't super comfortable, and to only use relatively tame/harmless tweets. I get your point, I'm just not totally sold.
Exactly. Some people really think that these celebrities are incapable of thinking for themselves. If this were a case of them being forced in any way to make these videos then I get it. However, I doubt that. Most of these (I haven't watched all of these so I can't be 100%) are celebrities that alot of control over their work and what they do, so I find it hard to believe they would be forced to make these. Buzfeed simply does not have enough power to do that.
I totally agree with u, like the celebs knew what they were getting themselves into with these types of vids. And some celebs actually take the comments well and get on with it, because no ones forcing them to do it.
Sometimes they're bound by contract to attend premieres or talk shows. I'd imagine it's the same with these sort of videos and interviews online. I'm on saying they can't refuse, but maybe everyone just plays it put since they're such short videos and they just have to read some tweets.
not to mention lots of those tweets r for sure being showed to them before hand... & the celebs probabaly filer out the ones that make them uncomfortable... yeh sexual harrasmnets is bad: & affects men too.. but also some of those thirst tweets r literaly done on porpose cus fans will writer anything to be noticed by their celeb in such videos.
@@forwhatitsworth. they get scripts, celebs wont do talk shows or interview without being presented the topics & what they r being asked before filming
I think you have a good point. The Buzzfeed team needs to make sure they’re not sexually harassing their guests. I think they should have celebrities fully informed of what they might end up reading and include a disclaimer about what measures they took to make them comfortable. The celebrities should be able to back out at any moment or ask not to have a tweet included in the video.
Just watched Hanbin reading those tweets, clicked on Jackson reading them afterwards. And you are so right on picking up on the weird vibes. It is truly a questionable experience. Cyber-harassment is a real thing (our communication exists for a huge part online), thus those thirst tweets & comment section both are not too far from real life situations.
Is it just me or does watching people feel uncomfortable make you feel uncomfortable? I sort of take on the emotion of whoever I'm watching. Like when some took it as a joke or compliment in the later clips, I felt happy as well. I don't enjoy watching people feel emotions I wouldn't wish to feel.
Your channel is so good. I'm glad I finally found a youtuber who, in my opinion, logically points out problematic aspects of topics like this one. Plus, the way you're so open to hear different opinions and criticism is also something I admire about you (the bar is low these days). Keep it up!
I first saw a Daniel Radcliffe and then the Manny Jacinto one. And it's just creepy. When I read thirsty tweets I thought they would be about how hot they are or something like that. But they are just "you can step on my face" "you can rip me apart" or other gory things and it just made me as uncomfortable as the guys. I don't get why people write that
this was such a good video!!! im so glad you made this because you pose some really good questions that i’ve also been thinking about. it’s interesting to me how most of our society agrees catcalling is wrong but at the same time people will say things to celebrities on the internet that are just as bad if not worse. they think because they’re behind a screen it’s okay and that celebrities won’t actually see what they say.
You're not being harsh and judgmental at all! You are just speaking my favorite language: FACTS! About why we like watching celebrities feeling uncomfortable it's because not celebrity people feel uncomfortable with that kind of messages and we love looking at "celebrities are normal people"'s proofs, and also because when it's relatable it makes you feel comforted
i think recognizing the power dynamic between men and women AND average people and celebrities is important to understanding peoples mentalities over this. coming from someone who does find these videos gross and a form of sexual harassment, there is a massive difference between a woman getting catcalled by a man and a male celebrity reading a unsolicited tweet made by a woman. one leads to real, systemic sexual violence while the other results in discomfort. both are sexual harassment but equating them downplays the gendered nature of sexual harassment and violence
I think the biggest diference is the context of safety We know those celebrities are safe That can't be said from cat calling victims I do agree with you that the victms being men and the harressers being mostly women has a key role into making this stituation socially acceptable The type of harresement definetly plays a part on making us feel more okay about it too Most comments describe acts they want the celebrity to do to them Which would require the celebrity consent I think if the comments were expressing more active sexual desires like wanting to choke instead of being choked more people would be umcomfortable with this I agree with everything you said Makes me very umcomfortable seeing these videos
i remember watching a couple of these and my initial reaction was discomfort. but everyone else seemed ok with it in the comments so i just brushed it off. i thought i was being too dramatic lol. thank you for validating that initial reaction and expanding on this.
i’m glad that you’ve made this video, i honestly hate how normalised sexualising celebrities is, people need to recognise that celebrities are humans too. also your point about sexual harassment towards men not been taken as seriously is true. i don’t want to be all ‘double standards’, but i’ve noticed that women get away lightly when saying creepy stuff to men compared to men saying creepy stuff to women. i think sexual harassment should be taken seriously no matter what the gender of the victim is.
When you read the comments my boyfriend had this really shocked face and I told him I've seen those videos before and some of them are funny and lighthearted but some of them are extremely uncomfortable to watch, I think if the celebrities fully knows what they're getting into and how far these tweets can go it's okay, but like you said these celebrities often have managers and publisists who book interviews for them and only briefly explain the concept and I think at the end of the day it should be discussed with the celebrity what level of extremity in regards to the tweets they are comfortable reacting to.
I always had a bad gut feeling/feel uncomfortable when watching the buzzfeed thirst videos- it was so normalised and I wanted to watch the 'funny' responses from my fav celebrities. However this really highlighted things I was too blind to acknowledge fully and summarised it. Thank you so much for creating a well informed eye opening video.
Personally as a dude, I feel weird when things like that happen. I’ve always felt like I look ugly, so when I have gotten uh… touched discomfortingly in a certain way I felt conflicted because it’s nice to know someone thinks I’m attractive but it’s disgusting what they do and I hate it
The commodification of suffering, harassment, and the emotional highs and lows that people in the spotlight can go through are quite disturbing. I think how male discomfort can be played off as a joke or unimportant is extremely problematic (not discrediting female suffering here, but I'm just saying men deal with some unique expectations when they feel uncomfortable).
when eric nam was one of their guest, I remembered he was being humble (or am I blind) reading all the tweets. That's why I enjoyed watching the video. I never thought it could lead to this topic, very sensitive topic. thank you for sharing this 😭
recently i commented on a "men reading thirst tweets" compilations, my comment was about how these tweets are borederline sexual harassment towards men, and my comment blew up VERY quickly, nearly 1k likes in a few days, i felt happy there are many ppl who agreed, but then the thread filled with TONS of people, of all genders, men, women, others etc.. harassing me for what i said, and since my mental health isn't at its greatest these days, i deleted the comments due to the massive backlash i got.. i mean, imagine getting triggered by someone who's calling you out for laughing/getting amused by people getting sexual harassed? pathetic.. truly.
out of topic and not related to the video but I'd just like to say I really love this girl, she's always really eloquent and talks in a respectful way analyzing the situation from different angles. also, she's soo beautiful!
Imo. I think the main reason ppl like watching celebrities do "normal" stuff is because most of the general audience holds celebrities in a higher light. It reminds the general audience that they too are humans. Good video :)
I genuinely only watched 2 thirst tweet videos (Shawn Mendes and here Cavill if anyone's wondering) and it made ME just so uncomfortable I turned it off, Thank you for talking about this
This was such a great video! I've always been iffy about these thrist tweet videos and thought how is this okay when the celebrity in question is visibly uncomfortable
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I simply figured it to be consensual never thinking about it. I would love a video on fanfiction about real life people in relation to consent.
i like how she tries to not upset ppl from each sides and be very open to several points of view and problems but is also funny bcs some1 feels the need to clarify again and again the same thing to just not be a target of ''judging eyes'' or misunderstanding
0:35 that dude looks familiar I don't know him but probs to him he rejected to read that inappropriate comment about him on that tweet since he has loyalty for his wife, cause usually I see guys (public figures or on socials) who're okay doing that while there with someone, what a man.
just because someone doesn't reach an absolute conclusion at the end of the video, that doesn't mean that it was unbiased... it is pretty opinionated after all. But yeah great video all the same, but to describe this video in that objective matter seems perhaps a bit niave
The objectification we've made of celebrities says a lot about how we see humans that 'offer us' something. Just because someone entertains you/captivates you, etc, doesn't mean they're less of humans, doesn't mean everything we do towards them is acceptable. They don't have to 'take it', their consent is just as important as ours.
ty for this and the way ppl do this so casually in comment sections to men on tiktok and either say "they harass us all the time" or "I'm just joking" well its not funny stephanie
8:24 I feel as though even if it is a joke its not really a joke to the person if they feel uncomfortable as it depends on the individual person. Its true that older people wouldn't understand gen-z but at the same time people who are born in zegerations might still not like hearing things said about them even if it wasn't intended to be serious.
These poor celebs must have been dreaming to be a star when they were little and have wonderful opportunities but when they reach these embarassing thirst tweet interviews they be like: I didn't sign up for this💀
I don't really understand liking it when others feel uncomfortable but I know a lot of people do. I've noticed guys like making me feel flustered or embarrassed and I never understood it and I still don't really :( If anyone can explain this to me, please do.
I think I can explain it!! When someone is making you feel flustered or embarrassed, they might feel proud of themselves for seeing you so “vulnerable” because maybe you’re never really seen as someone who is flustered. They feel like they get to see another side of you that you would prefer to not show to everyone and I guess it makes them feel good about themselves? It’s like a feeling of understanding someone better I think.
nobody cares if dudes are uncomfortable because we're supposed to be confident and capable in any situation while its more acceptable for women to feel helpless, confused, awkward, whatever and its mostly taken pity on and people feel sorry because "how could she expect to properly handle herself in a situation like this??" Lots of issues in how we view both genders that would honestly take so long to really delve into
tyyyyyyyyyyyy omg, seeing those any of those videos made me super uncomfortable and I always avoided them. ty so much for acc like making a video and talking about this.
That's crazy. I didn't know this video existed but it just shows how sexual harrassement against men is overlooked like crazy. Even worse that most of these people don't know what they are doing wrong.
Just saw this video! omg hats off sis!! I never thought of this before and i regret it now why i didn't... It also made me think abt other things that people do (with celebrity images) like skinship videos, making simple posts trending, thirt trap videos and if u ever know abt wattpad and some of its content and even imagine stories in YT(damn it's worst of our century !!!) Gen z(and also millennials) must be educated what is right and wrong because we never know any knowledge about certain things...
In regards to the consent aspect, I remember that Henry Cavill said he wanted to do the playing with puppies segment but they made him do the thirst tweets one And, even after he said that, people were still annoyed in the comments about how civil the tweets were
People think because people are public figures they have to expect and accept all, death threats, sexual harassment, etc. Is so stupid, they are still people, they have the right to be uncomfortable and ban or sue weird people. Especially when you think about the number of people who didn't have the intention to be a celebrity but blow up out of nowhere (like a lot of songwriters who didn't plan to be on stage and influencers, the majority of people don't expect that after posting one video of you you can suddenly become a huge celebrity and receive a lot of hate, threats, and disgusting comments/interactions. Especially if they are minors as well).
Oh man, here after got7's jb did the interview. It was soooooo uncomfortable, you should seriously check it out, it proves your point too. He seemed visibly uncomfortable and it was so awkward because of the cultural difference too it seems. I couldn't even sit through the entire video... Male sexual harassment( and sexualisation) is really not taken seriously enough especially when its verbal (the double standards seem to be becoming more and more obvious to me)
tbh we rlly need to humanize celebs a bit.. and im glad there r a lot of conversations on our interactions with celebs
Yes!
nah theyre rich fuck em
This reply section is the embodiment of “there are two types of people..”
@@solanaceae8 being rich should not strip you of humanization
I'm the 1000th like! nice :)
(also I agree)
I think that this is a great example about how society belittles sexual harassment towards men since a majority of the people reading thirst tweets about them are men
I remember when Jessi was in one of those videos and none of those comments are thirsty. I'm pretty sure Jessi would be happy to be able to read them. I think it's just because she's a woman.
@@adettessubs444 ikr, there are way more thirsty tweets about her and even though she would have enjoyed reading them, at the same time I am happy buzzfeed didn't show them. Except what angers me is that they didn't do the same for the male guests, especially when some of them were married. They should have not chosen such extreme ones.
this
I think they knew what the interview was about before they came on though. Not in any way excusing sexual harassment towards men, I just don't think it is.
Look at the account of where those videos are and you will see that there is the same content with females
This has been in the back of my mind for like, YEARS. I thought buzzfeed wouldn't do the same thing with female celeb because their demographic would immediately flag it as sexual harassment, but somehow it's okay for male celebrities to receive it.
The Misandrist are the reason
@Laura Kay ?
@Laura Kay “buzzfeed wouldn’t do the same thing with female celeb because their demographic would immediately flag it as sexual harassment, but somehow it’s okay for male celebrities to receive it.”
I just responded that misandrist were the reason to that statement .
And the “demographic of buzzfeed” is mostly women that are misandrist . Hence why I said what I said (misandrist). May I explain more ?
@Laura Kay how have you turned this on men lmao ?
Isn’t this the same as when some men whenever women are expressing their distress about how women are sexually assaulted say “well women do it too”
You’re doing the same thing turning it on men when the topic at hand was well women misandrist feminazi f*ckers lol
@Laura Kay I mean do you actually think they also didn’t nit pick and choose the specific tweets from women? As them saying that they’d want to peg xy celebrity which there was probably a lot of , would look weird regardless of gender , i don’t even know why y’all will never admit that
Maybe women are in the wrong in this certain situation(as in how the reactions to some of the statements of women in these thirst tweets would be received extremely badly if they were men)but instead make accusations and assumptions about how men would do things different or how men this and men that ,
I just responded to the op statements with “the misandrist are the reason” and you’re bum a*s started talking about why I said what I said about misandrist , and then I explained my statement ,
And then you went on and made it about men … like bruh , how can you deviate from you’re own statements that quick and make other statements that got nothing to do with what I originally said ? Insane …
I feel the reason jessi, amber and other female celebrities get comments that are so watered down in this videos is because buzzfeed is pretty much aware that this is SA but they dont want to face the backlash of harassing women so they go and take advantage of men's unfair exposure to SA and keep on doing it
Oh you're definitely right.
I thought it was bc of South Korean culture and how badly this type of content would be received, but now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense
Or maybe they don't even truly believe it is SA but don't want to fight that fight by putting heavier tweets in videos with women. Except at the end of the day they just look silly when they blatantly have that double-standard, regardless of their intentions
@@abiahne814 it's definitely not because they are Korean, before Jessi and Amber there have been already white women and they didn't read things as sexual or at least not as detailed as the tweets that men read
@@almariaghern1876 also the fact that there were literally korean men on the show like eric nam and jay park and they had to deal with the same shit as white men
Thats probably one of the few times YT algorithm hasnt disappointed me. Feel so bad that i never thought about it in that way
wow thank you! glad to provide a different perspective!
same
@@stephany6417 so true ngl 😭
All you gotta do is watch JB from Got7's thirst tweets vid. Your whole perspective will change.
same
Around 9:20 when you mentioned the women harassing other women - I agree completely. I've been harassed by women and it was treated as a joke, passed off as "oh we're both girls" or even twisted to make me look like the creepy one for implying there was something more happening. and since female on female abuse is the least spoken of, it's so easy for them to get away with it
i’m sorry that has happened to you!
@@oliSUNvia it’s alright! im happy more awareness is being spread these days
@@em-635 same it makes so so mad
sorry, you posted this a while ago but i do want to share how much i agree. this happened to me with a toxic ex-friend, and besides all the crappy ways she treated me, she used to touch my thighs under the tables in class and pass it off as a joke. i felt pretty uncomfortable at the time, and she was aware because she would joke that she was sexually harassing me, but because we're both girls and she was straight it was ok? making sure everyone is comfortable and feels respected in any type of friendship is so important, there is no excuse
@@neliabedelia im glad that you’re aware how wrong that was and im so sorry you had to experience it. the “both girls” thing always bothers me like, as if a girl can’t harm another girl? 😒
there’s a reason literally 99% of the videos feature male celebrities. if they did it with women it would immediately be considered sexual harassment. why do we disregard harassment towards men and instead treat their discomfort like it’s cute and hot
or maybe ? just maybe? more men AGREED to fo the video concept because more women were uncomfortable with the idea? i mean there is something called free will?
@@ml5923 3:40 watch the video before talking please
@@qwirt8204 girl don’t tag me i watched the video and said wtf i said now what’s tea? pipe down and move around shawt.
@@ml5923 Nobody has a problem when women make thirst tweets about men because nobody thinks women will actually act upon them.
@@NJGuy1973 so that makes it okay
i think a good example of sexual harassment towards celebrities being normalised is harry styles and his fans. i use to be a part a fan of his and the rest of one direction (i just grew out of them i guess), and during that time period i saw so many gross comments about them, almost always on twitter. harry himself said in an interview that comments sexualising him, especially from minors, make him uncomfortable and yet people still think it’s okay. and when these people would get called out, they’re responses were like “it’s a joke” or “i’m allowed to express myself sexually 😐😐”. like yes you can express yourself in that way as long as you’re not sexualising someone who doesn’t consent to it, and why do you think it’s okay to make jokes like that?
Or Justin Bieber
Why don't people just keep that creepy shit to themselves? It's one thing to fantasize about someone, but saying that stuff to them on their socials is not okay.
Like, how do you tell a person were the line between expressing themselves and harassing is?
Sex positivity was a mistake.
i just wanna take a moment to acknowledge that people take domineering sexual harassment far more seriously than submissive sexual harassment, and it kind of goes to show how people care more about violent assault than sexual. the tamest example i can think of is that it's commonplace for someone to say 'step on me' but it would be awful for someone to say 'i want to step on you'. the belief that sexual violence can only be dominant is woefully outdated but since oftentimes submissive harassment can come across as less forceful people interpret it as a request, rather than an assault. this is, in my opinion, how gender plays into it because men are perceived as dominant while women submissive (no matter how outdated that mindset may be) so in the eyes of patriarchy the man would always 'control' sex.
if a woman/submissive person makes inappropriate sexual comments it is seen as an offer - a promise that they consent to whatever the other party wants. people assume that because this is an 'offer' and therefore the subject has a choice in whether or not to accept, it is not forcing the subject into anything. but that isn't true. by out of nowhere offering sex you put someone into a sexual situation - it doesn't matter if they have the chance to 'opt out' by rejecting it, introducing that scenario and then describing your sexual fantasies of this person without any indication that they wouldn't be severely uncomfortable let alone tolerate it is harassment on its own.
a lot of people on the internet blatantly manipulate the power dynamics of s&m to justify harassment. it makes no actual difference who has the 'power' in your fantasies, because believe it or not masses of anonymous people who will never face consequences for their actions online have a lot more power than one famous person whose livelihood depends on having and maintaining a supportive fanbase.
hm this comment got me thinking, thanks for contributing something quite interesting
This comment is so well written and i completely agree
Interesting
Yess u perfectly put what I’ve been thinking into words. I noticed that thirst comments always seem to be abt what ppl want others to do to them, never what they wanna do to others. My friends and I were talking abt it and we agreed that it’s bc the latter sounds bad, which got me wondering why since it didn’t seem fair
I was actually kind of thinking about these. I often see male thirst make comments tend to be a bit different from female comments. Not to say that either one is okay and we should acknowledge that both make the subject uncomfortable, but often I see men tend to me very aggressive in their comments. Often the word choice is forceful and often it can be pretty degrading. I think it might have to do with the fact that men often dehumanize the subject that they are sexualizing. What I mean is they treat them like a bag of meat. But I think because the women writing this, write it from the submissive angle and do it adoringly rather than derogatorily, it isn’t perceived the same. Also this may be why a lot of the female thirst tweets were forgoed is probably because it was tied into sexism as well as why women perceive it to maybe even be complementary.
Still it’s very disgusting that a lot of women feel okay enacting this behavior at the expense of male celebs.
I'm so glad someone finally said it, bc I've been feeling this way about certain aspects of "fandom culture" since forever. Ok so for context, for most of my life I wasn't too interested in celebrities, until I got into kpop fandoms around 2016. I was introduced to kpop through boy groups, and even though I definitely found a lot of the guys handsome, so many things about the fan girl's way to go about their admiration just didn't sit right with me. Like...making weird sexual fanarts and over the top thirst tweets, for example. I found it weird AF because I always thought "well, what if the guys see it?" but since most of my kpop stan friends participated in this aspect I kind of just brushed it off as me being dramatic or overanalyzing stuff that's just "for fun". I found it super weird how all of this girls absolutely hated when men catcalled them or sexualized them, but didn't hesitate to sexualize male celebrities into oblivion. I think a lot of them don't make the connection because 1) they're men and 2) they don't see them irl so it's easy to dehumanize them. It's specially ironic when this same fangirls talk about how awful sasaengs (obsessive fans) are but don't realize that those unhealthy obsessions flourish thanks to an environment where dehumanizing idols/celebrities and painting them as otherworldly beings is totally ok. So yeah, fandoms are fun and sometimes *ironically* making an over the top thirsty comment is hilarious, but it's also important to always have the awareness that the person you admire is well, a person, and they can feel uncomfortable. It's ok to find someone attractive, but there's a line between being flirty or praising someone and being downright creepy. You wouldn't tell the guy you have a crush on that you wished "he'd slit your throat open with his jawline" to his face, would you?
I read through your comment and I agree and I am relieved someone thinks the same as me.
I don't want to be a holier than thou type of person, but the points you made are some of the reasons I do my best to not dehumanize and lust over them.
And what if I meet them in real life? I would love to, but how could I look them in the eye knowing the things I have thought about them?
Again, thank you for your comment.
Same! I was never really the type of person into smut or thirsting for idols. But I never really thought twice about it. Just kinda scrolled past. But when I saw the thirst tweets or smut of any kind involving s female idol, I was immediately so uncomfortable. And that was the first time I realized that it’s equally gross when it’s done to male idols. It’s really not okay at all. It’s so gross.
Especially because there are several idols who’ve said they reallt don’t like it at all.
Thank you!
this has been bothering me since forever too. finding someone nice and attractive is okay but I can never imagine how someone can fantasize about some celebrity they don't even really know in a 'thirsty' way for a lack of a better word. It creeps me out in general but especially that if I was a celebrity, I wouldn't want people to comment and think about these things and it would make me so uncomfortable. You can find someone attractive but keep a respectful distance and a distance between reality and fantasy too. I make it a point to never engage in a conversation where someone is going beyond an extent and almost dehumanizing the famous person. It just feels wrong.
@Anjali I don't want to be dramatic or anything but your comment seems like victim-blaming to me. Your basically saying that If they find sexual comment about themselves is their fault beacause they were looking for it. If someone founds sexual comments made about them, it doesn't matter if they found it by accident or not, they're allowed to feel uncomfortable.
"you are such a cutie when you are terrified" is something a male serial k*ller would say to a teen girl before torturing and probably abusing her in an horror/slasher movie.
The fact that people think it's okay to say it to real people (men) because they are famous is beyond me.
literally exactly what im thinking. like the mental disconnect someone needs to have to even think that saying something like that is normal.
what is happening to the world
11:17 as a female, that's a messed way to validate such comments. no one should ever feel uncomfortable reading comments like that, it applies to all genders. btw i love your jewelry!
I always felt so uncomfortable watching theses but when I commented that I got attacked :/
i hope you feel safer here!
not to mention that celebrities often deal with stalkers and threats. the manny jacinto tweet might sound like a ridiculous joke to the outside world, but i wouldn’t be shocked if he or someone he knew had received that kind of message in a completely serious tone before from a stalker. because celebrities are rich and famous, they seem invincible, but they’re probably actually way more vulnerable to stalking than the average person is so this kind of stuff could feel pretty scary if you live a high profile life.
Not even that tho. Yes a possible example. But it’s also just easy for all of us to laugh at grotesque examples of sexual harassment because we don’t really register it as that because we don’t reallty register these celebrities as humans.
It’s so easy to just dismiss it because we don’t imagine what it would be like for these male celebrities to actually hear it
yes omg when i watched the manny jacinto video i felt so awkward and uncomfortable for him......,, :(( thank you for this discussion, i didn't actually think about this while watching thirst tweets videos but your points are really valid
also unrelated but your hair looks so good and your editing is SO cute and on point ???? and i love how eloquent you are !!!
thanks so much!!
i felt the same and when i watched jay park’s video i could feel that uncomfortable laugh and i really do feel one should not be simply okay w it
"If you look at the like/dislike ratio..."
Truly a relic or a bygone era.
My two cents about Thirst Tweets is that why there are public thirst tweets in the first place (regardless of celebrity or not). It's fine if you're horny, but don't put it out in the public environment where your targeted desire can see it.
I only don't mind watching the ones that (at least) seem to not mind the tweets. But still feels icky.
Some tweets are more complimentary in a non-sexual way (which are my faves).
Anyways, this is a great topic.
There are so many fandom sites or group chats etc I think it is okay to do it there. What isn't okay is to @ their socials.
I don't get why people need to put every single one of their thoughts out on the internet, it's just weird.
i think it's fine just maybe don't @ them. i can understand the point that people dont think that huge celebrities will see their tweets at all
@@moosethecat4434 its a coping mechanism for many young people to overshare on the internet idk.
@@Eliftae Oh, definitely. Now, I can tell some of those tweets are indirect mentions that don't @ the people, but Buzzfeed must search the celebrities' names on Twitter to get all the indirects. And this is why I keep my comments about Sacha Dhawan to Tumblr and Discord where he can't see them!
Everytime I see those video I tell myself “ugh they really don’t need to know that”… its like the world of fanfiction, its all good until you see a video of the celebrity reading it. I feel so embarrassed for them. And I feel like the buzzfeed videos encourage people to tweet even weirder things than before just to get a chance to be featured…
Have you ever considered fanfiction about real people is not okay even if you don't see them reading it? What if someone was writing sexual stories about having sex with YOU? Would it make you feel better if the people who write it told you "It was fun to do this until you found out"? To me personally it would make me feel worse. Just a thought.
@@nessie7306 there was someone in my school years ago who actually did publish smut using people that went to school with her. though at first it was shocking and made us disgusted, there were so many chapters with different people that it made me realise the fantasy had nothing to do with the people and more to do with the fantasy itself, so it honestly made it more digestable afterwards. Not defending what she did but the reaction of everyone who found themselves in the smut to be more like "What the fuck, ew" rather than any serious or long term damage
@@h027s I would understand that reaction in that case, yeah. I just think, celebrities see them in the hundreds, some of them thousands. That probably makes them more uncomfortable than just one fanfiction. However thanks for the input, maybe it isn't as bad for them as one would think.
@@nessie7306 for me the expression “its all good” more of a general statement for people who like fan fiction. Wether we like or not, celebrity-based fan fictions has been normalized in fandoms and internet culture. Personally, I have always felt like this type of fan fiction is awkward af and wrong. However, I’m under the impression that fan fiction about real people is understood to be for the fans only. It’s not intended for the celebrity. This assumption is completely shattered when the subject of the fan fiction makes it known that they have read it. And since the celebrity wasn’t supposed to know about it, authors are often more explicit. And that makes it a 100% time worse when the person’s knows about it. But yeah I totally I agree with you… it would be creepy Af to read one fan fiction about yourself…so I can’t imagine when you have about 1000+
@Anjali i agree, but as long as it’s not illegal.
This is a brilliant video!!! It deserves more views tbh. people need to see this and be more critical about the sort of content/media we are consuming and the ways in which fandom/fan spaces can get out of hand and the sexual comments or tweets can border on harassment even within the context of it being between fans and not actively being directed to a particular celeb.
It becomes especially unsettling when media companies like buzzfeed involves these celebrities in the thirst for content and clicks. I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to be thirsty on main but, like you've pointed out in the video, a line has been crossed and getting actors and musicians to read thirst tweets simply feels exploitative or cringey at the very least.
Honeslty also, what you mentioned about comments bordering on harassment it just makes me think about how, for this segment/show, the team has to actually CHOOSE the tweets they're gonna give the artist so, it seems very strange that if they read and see a tweet saying something about how they want said artist to kill them while their blood comes out and their jugular makes noises or, i remember one in the eric nam video saying smth like if he'd choke them to death they would still thank him for it, how does the team of people behind this, read this and not think it's borderline? how are they fine and not think twice about making the artist read it like.... mhmmm maybe not this one because this person might actually be psychotic?
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A balanced, decent human being wouldn't approach someone on the street with a comment like those, so why would anyone think it's ok for the Internet?
Sexual Harassment for the most part is seen as okay as long as you make it socially acceptable. If a woman was harassed in the street and a large crowd was hired to follow the harasser and clap, or if he was flashing her and everyone clapped, more people would join in and clap and most people would see it as socially acceptable. It's all about appealing to the majority, so it's a good idea to manipulate them.
Honestly, since harassment is already pretty frowned upon especially when done by men, it does much rather sound they are harassing the harasser back with claps, by doing it ironically. It would be much clearer f you if you said "cheer on", assuming your first language isn't English.
And just a heads up, my first language isn't English eitherr, so I know how commonly these mistakes can be made. And by that I also suppose most people would feel uncomfortable by being clapped at in public for no reason at all if you don't give cheering, but tha also might be my insecurities speaking louder.
That's really what it boils down too. Humans by nature are followers (even those who claim to be "alpha") in most situations. If someone gets harassed in a room full of people who are well aware of it, even now in a time where people are generally more critical of this sort of thing, most won't do anything about it. Everyone is supposedly "progressive" until they actually witness harassment happening in a classroom or workplace. It's not until someone in that room speaks up that more people realize, "Oh yeah, that is wrong."
I don't think most people would find it socially acceptable just by looking at other people do it in a small context. We will question it. We definitely wouldn't stop it. But I don't think most people would join in or agree that it's acceptable.
I have thought about this multiple times in the past and thank you for addressing it! I can’t imagine that these videos have been passed as ‘normal’ and ‘entertaining’
Honestly it was funny when i couldn’t see that they were uncomfortable but some of the tweets went to far. The tweets were so outrageous that I laughed at them but.
Once a person feels uncomfortable with unsolicited comments, that is wrong. That's where we have to draw the line.
Not at the unsolicited comment?
aaah im glad someone said it! when thirst tweet videos first came on my rec, i only watched dan radcliffe cause, im a major harry potter geek, i wondered if any girls had any of these videos, and i found jessi and amber liu. all tweets amber read were by females (seemed like it) and amber looked very concerned (rightfully lmao). it gets me thinking, what if there were sexual tweets by guys, towards these girls in the same way, written in the same psychotic manner, would it be seen just as a joke or would they be creepy?
Personally, I've never liked those videos when the guests look obviously uncomfortable. The only one I actually watched and enjoyed watching were the ones where they obviously looked like they were having fun, and they were going along with it, like those guests seemed like they were just there to get a good laugh and that was fun to watch. However, I still feel bad for giving them views because that contributed to BuzzFeed inviting more and more guests that could possibly feel uncomfortable but feel forced to as this video's are a big thing now.
like, im sorry but if a grown ass man with a well established career feels like he cant say not to fucking BUZZFEED out of all things because their one video series is kind of a big thing currently, i think the problem lies elsewhere entirely.
oh wow I'm glad you talked about this, I have been side-eyeing those videos for a very long time. I watched a couple and I forgot who it was, but there was one video where the guy was obviously very uncomfortable and looked weirded out and seeing him read those crazy comments made me uncomfortable as well. I think its okay for people to post their thirst tweets but buzzfeed compiling them and showing them to the celebrity is where I feel the line is crossed. The entire concept actually seems like something people would've enjoyed in the early 00s & 10's and I'm surprised that buzzfeed hasn't been majorly called out on the concept yet. I guess its because the subjects are males and so people don't really care all that much?
literally- if the tweets were formatted as
[man tweeting] - i want [woman] to do x with/to me
it would seem really perverted and wrong for buzzfeed to compile those tweets and show the women
when in reality it's just as weird regardless of the genders in each role
OMG, I totally agree, like I think I get the justification of when people are like 'hey, these people tweeting tweet these kinda stuff not even imagining the actual celebrity will read it and all'. Like of course there is fault with people tweeting these kind of stuff but I think the major fault is with buzzfeed for actually compiling all these tweets and making celebrities read them.
I sort of agree. But some of the tweets were incredibly grotesque. Like, please have some shame. I’d never wanna have that stuff said to me/about me unless it was a friend, MAYBE.
let’s talk about how is always male celebrities who are invited to record this videos. If they were women, other women would be calling the company out bc of their actions. I’m a raging feminist btw, but I just wanted to point out that this may be the reason why the don’t do this to women, bc they wouldn’t be able to hide the sexual harassment that comes with this videos.
English is not my first language, feel free to correct me and sorry if there’s mistakes!
Very well said
As someone who is asexual and very uncomfortable with anyone even thinking of me in a sexual way, I cannot imagine what these poor celebrities must be going through when they read these comments:(
It sucks that this behavior is so normalized, especially in fandom spaces ;;; I even found myself joining in on it without thinking, but I'm trying to unlearn it and this video is another reasom to do so. Fandoms really need to change the way they interact with celebrities.
However kinky the other person may or may not be, walking up to a stranger and whispering kinyk stuff into their ear WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT is NOT OKAY.
I don't know about y'all, but I am kinky af and I do not like to have people do things to me without my consent, period.
Preach, preach! Consent is hot, h@rassment is not!
what you said at 2:00 was what i've been trying to put into words for a few weeks now! i'm honestly so over people normalizing sexual comments about people and then getting praise/validation ( i guess? ) for it, it's so gross urghghgh
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I've been WAITING for someone to address this issue, I hate that some people don't see celebrities as actual human beings and this is not okay
I LOVE your channel! I'm Christian so I usually tend to stay away from sexual content, but those Buzzfeed videos always end up on my recommended. It always made me so uncomfortable. But I never really thought about it to this extent. You're totally right. These videos ARE sexual harrassment. These comments aren't "I love (blank actor)" or "(actor) is so cute!". They aren't compliments. They're harrassment.
this!! there is a sort of double standard for men being uncomfortable with unwanted sexual advancements, and women being uncomfortable. it plays into a big part of misogyny as a whole, even if the focus is on men. it's toxic masculinity shrouded in 'feminism or being woke". it really shows that buzzfeed is at least somewhat aware of the backlash it can have if they water down and filter the thirst tweets for their female celebrities, it feels like they're just infantilizing women and sexualizing men. it IS sexual harassment and its unfair that male celebrates have to just sit and take it because our society expects men to be promiscuous, and treats them like children if theyre not.
this double standard dehumanizes all genders and it's insane that so many ppl dont see a problem with it
This is what feminism is about: dismantling gender discrimination as a whole!!
Umm...where are the men's right advocates ? ....oh yea hating on everything that has "feminism" in its title.
so fucking true, I'm really disgusted by those motherfuckers who say:omgggfg feminismmmmm, aaaannnnd whereeeee r myyyy righhhhts? and the same people when they see a post about a man being raped or harassed:omg, where can I find that place/person?
this channel has 20k subs...not a particular easy video to find
@@madaxwayne Men make 50% of the population, you would imagine they find this
@@raapyna8544 how so,this channel is small af
Wheres the logic?
serene ismail to be honest, i've seen plenty of mra's videos where feminists go and insult them for no reason. Both of these happen and there are extremists in both of these movements.
I always thought I didn't like this because I felt uncomfortable people talking about sex because of trauma I never really acknowledged the sexual harassment part of it and when I did I'd just thought I was just being dramatic its nice to hear someone validate my feeling.
yk i found this video looking for a 5sos video, and i ended up watching the whole video. I never really saw the the videos as that big of a deal till now, this really showed me a different perspective. Just subbed lol
thank you i'm glad i was worth ur time! lol
The bubbly music that plays in the background of those thirst tweet videos just adds to the delusion
i completely agree with you! i actually didn’t know these kinds of videos were a thing. i’ve watched the “celebs read mean tweets” but didn’t know about the thirst trap ones. totally creepy!! 😬
Ohmygod I’ve been thinking about this forever!! I remember I watched the nick jonas vid and he was generally chill/took everything lightheartedly which people in the comments were praising. A lot of the comments were comparing him to Shawn mendes, who’d done the previous vid and was more overtly uncomfortable with the whole thing. People were belittling Shawn and basically saying how he would’ve been more like Nick, and idk, it just left a bad taste in my mouth. All your videos are so thought provoking and genuinely so interesting to watch!! Love ur channel.
so much male sexual harassment in the media is just disguised as “thirsting” or “fangirling”. some of them can be funny but i was watching james mcavoy’s video and one said something like “look at james mcavoy’s ass” and he laughed it off but could you imagine if that was said about a woman
Yeah just gotta think of the time when Zac Efron had his shirt forcibly removed in front of a crowd after trying to ignore their demands for him to take it off
I'm sorry if I answer at this comment 7 month later but I completely agree ! In real life, if you're having sexual thoughts about someone you will not tell them because you know it can make you and them feel very uncomfortable. But, on social media and with a celebrity, people seems to forget that it can make the person feels really bad. Very sad, indeed.
Hey, thanks for this. To be honest, I went back to the channel where Manny's video was posted and I realised I HAD LIKED THAT VIDEO(i am embarrassed ) so I disliked it and I feel better. Thanks for this video, it gave me a new perspective towards things like these.
this is a really interesting take that I never thought about! I feel like this analysis or beginnings of an analysis into why we as a society like to watch people being uncomfortable can be translated into a lot of youtube videos like those on CUT and channels alike where people are asked to do things that are uncomfortable or would be confronting in most cases. I personally am one of these people and, I havent really thought about it much so thank you for sharing such a different insight into thinking about what we find entertaining. Unfortunately am yet to have any answers of my own though haha
As someone who draws and writes very sexual and sometimes even kinky stuff about fictional characters, including life action characters: This creeps me out so much. Comments like this should NEVER reach celebrities. They should always be just by fans for other fans, carefully hidden from celebrities with "warning" tags and things like that. Showing celebrities this stuff, no matter if you are a fellow fan who @ts them or some show host, is just not okay
Thanks for talking about it! It was bothering me too but nearly nobody is addressing this topic :/
I feel like this has a lot to do with humans finding pleasure in the discomfort of others in general. I never watched much of America's Funniest Home Videos, or whatever the thing was called, but most of the videos I did watch involved someone getting injured. For some reason I feel like people feel better seeing someone else in pain when they know they aren't, and we sympathize with others when we also share that pain. I'm a guy, and I've never personally experienced any sexual harassments, but I do think it's better to just reduce harassments in general no matter what form it comes in. Too many people nowadays seem to not care when they inconvenience someone else, especially if they can gain a backing that supports them personally.
i agree with everything you said! i feel like people 100% find pleasure in other people's discomfort/pain
A sense of schaudenfreude.
I felt like that watching Jaebum's video. Some thirst tweets are lighter, but they put a BUNCH about eating ass and his 0rgasm face in there and it made me hella uncomfortable.
Idk... I think for racy videos like the thirst tweet series, a celebrity could certainly let the publicist know they weren't comfortable with that and then just choose a different video to star in. I don't quite believe that a celebrity just has no say in the matter. Furthermore, I think the draw of the video series is not "watch this person get sexually harassed," but rather "look how absurd and hilarious these comments are." I just think that if a celebrity didn't like the idea of starring in one of these, they wouldn't do it. Or they could even just let the video makers know they weren't super comfortable, and to only use relatively tame/harmless tweets. I get your point, I'm just not totally sold.
Exactly. Some people really think that these celebrities are incapable of thinking for themselves. If this were a case of them being forced in any way to make these videos then I get it. However, I doubt that. Most of these (I haven't watched all of these so I can't be 100%) are celebrities that alot of control over their work and what they do, so I find it hard to believe they would be forced to make these. Buzfeed simply does not have enough power to do that.
I totally agree with u, like the celebs knew what they were getting themselves into with these types of vids. And some celebs actually take the comments well and get on with it, because no ones forcing them to do it.
Sometimes they're bound by contract to attend premieres or talk shows. I'd imagine it's the same with these sort of videos and interviews online. I'm on saying they can't refuse, but maybe everyone just plays it put since they're such short videos and they just have to read some tweets.
not to mention lots of those tweets r for sure being showed to them before hand... & the celebs probabaly filer out the ones that make them uncomfortable... yeh sexual harrasmnets is bad: & affects men too.. but also some of those thirst tweets r literaly done on porpose cus fans will writer anything to be noticed by their celeb in such videos.
@@forwhatitsworth. they get scripts, celebs wont do talk shows or interview without being presented the topics & what they r being asked before filming
I think you have a good point. The Buzzfeed team needs to make sure they’re not sexually harassing their guests. I think they should have celebrities fully informed of what they might end up reading and include a disclaimer about what measures they took to make them comfortable. The celebrities should be able to back out at any moment or ask not to have a tweet included in the video.
Just watched Hanbin reading those tweets, clicked on Jackson reading them afterwards. And you are so right on picking up on the weird vibes. It is truly a questionable experience. Cyber-harassment is a real thing (our communication exists for a huge part online), thus those thirst tweets & comment section both are not too far from real life situations.
Is it just me or does watching people feel uncomfortable make you feel uncomfortable?
I sort of take on the emotion of whoever I'm watching. Like when some took it as a joke or compliment in the later clips, I felt happy as well.
I don't enjoy watching people feel emotions I wouldn't wish to feel.
You're a good person, that's called empathy...
its scary to think that empathy is like a personality trait now and not just a basic human tendency
thats not your fault btw its just societies
Your channel is so good. I'm glad I finally found a youtuber who, in my opinion, logically points out problematic aspects of topics like this one. Plus, the way you're so open to hear different opinions and criticism is also something I admire about you (the bar is low these days). Keep it up!
I first saw a Daniel Radcliffe and then the Manny Jacinto one. And it's just creepy.
When I read thirsty tweets I thought they would be about how hot they are or something like that. But they are just "you can step on my face" "you can rip me apart" or other gory things and it just made me as uncomfortable as the guys. I don't get why people write that
Thank you. I feel like I've gone crazy by thinking I'm the only one who thinks these thirst tweet vids are problematic
this was such a good video!!! im so glad you made this because you pose some really good questions that i’ve also been thinking about. it’s interesting to me how most of our society agrees catcalling is wrong but at the same time people will say things to celebrities on the internet that are just as bad if not worse. they think because they’re behind a screen it’s okay and that celebrities won’t actually see what they say.
You're not being harsh and judgmental at all! You are just speaking my favorite language: FACTS!
About why we like watching celebrities feeling uncomfortable it's because not celebrity people feel uncomfortable with that kind of messages and we love looking at "celebrities are normal people"'s proofs, and also because when it's relatable it makes you feel comforted
i think recognizing the power dynamic between men and women AND average people and celebrities is important to understanding peoples mentalities over this. coming from someone who does find these videos gross and a form of sexual harassment, there is a massive difference between a woman getting catcalled by a man and a male celebrity reading a unsolicited tweet made by a woman. one leads to real, systemic sexual violence while the other results in discomfort. both are sexual harassment but equating them downplays the gendered nature of sexual harassment and violence
I think the biggest diference is the context of safety
We know those celebrities are safe
That can't be said from cat calling victims
I do agree with you that the victms being men and the harressers being mostly women has a key role into making this stituation socially acceptable
The type of harresement definetly plays a part on making us feel more okay about it too
Most comments describe acts they want the celebrity to do to them
Which would require the celebrity consent
I think if the comments were expressing more active sexual desires like wanting to choke instead of being choked more people would be umcomfortable with this
I agree with everything you said
Makes me very umcomfortable seeing these videos
i remember watching a couple of these and my initial reaction was discomfort. but everyone else seemed ok with it in the comments so i just brushed it off. i thought i was being too dramatic lol. thank you for validating that initial reaction and expanding on this.
i’m glad that you’ve made this video, i honestly hate how normalised sexualising celebrities is, people need to recognise that celebrities are humans too.
also your point about sexual harassment towards men not been taken as seriously is true. i don’t want to be all ‘double standards’, but i’ve noticed that women get away lightly when saying creepy stuff to men compared to men saying creepy stuff to women. i think sexual harassment should be taken seriously no matter what the gender of the victim is.
I am so glad to have found you because you have perspectives I've been waiting to see online
Thank you so much! I'm so sick and TIRED of people saying these things about celebrities
When you read the comments my boyfriend had this really shocked face and I told him I've seen those videos before and some of them are funny and lighthearted but some of them are extremely uncomfortable to watch, I think if the celebrities fully knows what they're getting into and how far these tweets can go it's okay, but like you said these celebrities often have managers and publisists who book interviews for them and only briefly explain the concept and I think at the end of the day it should be discussed with the celebrity what level of extremity in regards to the tweets they are comfortable reacting to.
This is a really great video, I just subbed!!! Off topic, but I really love your hair :) have a nice day
thank you! my hair says thank you too lol, have a lovely day as well
I always had a bad gut feeling/feel uncomfortable when watching the buzzfeed thirst videos- it was so normalised and I wanted to watch the 'funny' responses from my fav celebrities. However this really highlighted things I was too blind to acknowledge fully and summarised it. Thank you so much for creating a well informed eye opening video.
Personally as a dude, I feel weird when things like that happen. I’ve always felt like I look ugly, so when I have gotten uh… touched discomfortingly in a certain way I felt conflicted because it’s nice to know someone thinks I’m attractive but it’s disgusting what they do and I hate it
Overall though it’s just unenjoyable 😐
The commodification of suffering, harassment, and the emotional highs and lows that people in the spotlight can go through are quite disturbing. I think how male discomfort can be played off as a joke or unimportant is extremely problematic (not discrediting female suffering here, but I'm just saying men deal with some unique expectations when they feel uncomfortable).
when eric nam was one of their guest, I remembered he was being humble (or am I blind) reading all the tweets. That's why I enjoyed watching the video. I never thought it could lead to this topic, very sensitive topic.
thank you for sharing this 😭
recently i commented on a "men reading thirst tweets" compilations, my comment was about how these tweets are borederline sexual harassment towards men, and my comment blew up VERY quickly, nearly 1k likes in a few days, i felt happy there are many ppl who agreed, but then the thread filled with TONS of people, of all genders, men, women, others etc.. harassing me for what i said, and since my mental health isn't at its greatest these days, i deleted the comments due to the massive backlash i got.. i mean, imagine getting triggered by someone who's calling you out for laughing/getting amused by people getting sexual harassed? pathetic.. truly.
out of topic and not related to the video but I'd just like to say I really love this girl, she's always really eloquent and talks in a respectful way analyzing the situation from different angles. also, she's soo beautiful!
I really don't feel comfortable watching those kinds of videos. If i ever did, i dont remember anymore
Imo. I think the main reason ppl like watching celebrities do "normal" stuff is because most of the general audience holds celebrities in a higher light. It reminds the general audience that they too are humans. Good video :)
I genuinely only watched 2 thirst tweet videos (Shawn Mendes and here Cavill if anyone's wondering) and it made ME just so uncomfortable I turned it off, Thank you for talking about this
This was such a great video! I've always been iffy about these thrist tweet videos and thought how is this okay when the celebrity in question is visibly uncomfortable
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I simply figured it to be consensual never thinking about it.
I would love a video on fanfiction about real life people in relation to consent.
6:30 "for the sake of example, pretend your vanilla" is one of the best quotes ive ever heard
Micheal Clifford's line " we're 5 seconds of summer and we've been emotionally scarred by buzzfeed" at the end of 5sos's video....
I’ll never understand how people could enjoy others feeling uncomfortable. Just gives so much secondhand embarrassment for me
i like how she tries to not upset ppl from each sides and be very open to several points of view and problems but is also funny bcs some1 feels the need to clarify again and again the same thing to just not be a target of ''judging eyes'' or misunderstanding
0:35 that dude looks familiar I don't know him but probs to him he rejected to read that inappropriate comment about him on that tweet since he has loyalty for his wife, cause usually I see guys (public figures or on socials) who're okay doing that while there with someone, what a man.
I love ur content, it’s very objective, unbiased and informative.
just because someone doesn't reach an absolute conclusion at the end of the video, that doesn't mean that it was unbiased... it is pretty opinionated after all. But yeah great video all the same, but to describe this video in that objective matter seems perhaps a bit niave
The objectification we've made of celebrities says a lot about how we see humans that 'offer us' something. Just because someone entertains you/captivates you, etc, doesn't mean they're less of humans, doesn't mean everything we do towards them is acceptable. They don't have to 'take it', their consent is just as important as ours.
ty for this and the way ppl do this so casually in comment sections to men on tiktok and either say "they harass us all the time" or "I'm just joking" well its not funny stephanie
I think that's the point of those videos, to show how a celebrity really feels about things like that
8:24 I feel as though even if it is a joke its not really a joke to the person if they feel uncomfortable as it depends on the individual person. Its true that older people wouldn't understand gen-z but at the same time people who are born in zegerations might still not like hearing things said about them even if it wasn't intended to be serious.
These poor celebs must have been dreaming to be a star when they were little and have wonderful opportunities but when they reach these embarassing thirst tweet interviews they be like: I didn't sign up for this💀
I appreciate you asking this question!
Still like...why do these celebs agree to do that when they know they'll be uncomfortable..
Did you watch the video
Watch the consent section in the vid
Enlightening video thank you for the perspective.
I don't really understand liking it when others feel uncomfortable but I know a lot of people do. I've noticed guys like making me feel flustered or embarrassed and I never understood it and I still don't really :(
If anyone can explain this to me, please do.
I think I can explain it!! When someone is making you feel flustered or embarrassed, they might feel proud of themselves for seeing you so “vulnerable” because maybe you’re never really seen as someone who is flustered. They feel like they get to see another side of you that you would prefer to not show to everyone and I guess it makes them feel good about themselves? It’s like a feeling of understanding someone better I think.
@@nazihahere ew but good to know
@@sophisticatedwrat np!!
You have to stop making such good video essays. I found you yesterday and have already watched loads of your videos. I should be sleeping atm 😂
nobody cares if dudes are uncomfortable because we're supposed to be confident and capable in any situation while its more acceptable for women to feel helpless, confused, awkward, whatever and its mostly taken pity on and people feel sorry because "how could she expect to properly handle herself in a situation like this??" Lots of issues in how we view both genders that would honestly take so long to really delve into
tyyyyyyyyyyyy omg, seeing those any of those videos made me super uncomfortable and I always avoided them. ty so much for acc like making a video and talking about this.
That's crazy. I didn't know this video existed but it just shows how sexual harrassement against men is overlooked like crazy. Even worse that most of these people don't know what they are doing wrong.
Just saw this video! omg hats off sis!! I never thought of this before and i regret it now why i didn't...
It also made me think abt other things that people do (with celebrity images) like skinship videos, making simple posts trending, thirt trap videos and if u ever know abt wattpad and some of its content and even imagine stories in YT(damn it's worst of our century !!!) Gen z(and also millennials) must be educated what is right and wrong because we never know any knowledge about certain things...
In regards to the consent aspect, I remember that Henry Cavill said he wanted to do the playing with puppies segment but they made him do the thirst tweets one
And, even after he said that, people were still annoyed in the comments about how civil the tweets were
I love the way you explain things, very informative but not sarcastic. Keep up the good work!
People think because people are public figures they have to expect and accept all, death threats, sexual harassment, etc. Is so stupid, they are still people, they have the right to be uncomfortable and ban or sue weird people. Especially when you think about the number of people who didn't have the intention to be a celebrity but blow up out of nowhere (like a lot of songwriters who didn't plan to be on stage and influencers, the majority of people don't expect that after posting one video of you you can suddenly become a huge celebrity and receive a lot of hate, threats, and disgusting comments/interactions. Especially if they are minors as well).
you must be really good at writing essays for school
Oh man, here after got7's jb did the interview. It was soooooo uncomfortable, you should seriously check it out, it proves your point too. He seemed visibly uncomfortable and it was so awkward because of the cultural difference too it seems. I couldn't even sit through the entire video... Male sexual harassment( and sexualisation) is really not taken seriously enough especially when its verbal (the double standards seem to be becoming more and more obvious to me)
i was thinking the same...
the best ones are the ones where the celeb is like, actually into it and having fun with it. otherwise where’s the fun?